Chinese Carbon Bike- DANGER!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- This is a frame I got from VeloBuild at www.velobuildma...
SHORT VERSION:
-Frame snapped in descent.
-Injury toll: fractured my fibula and snapped a ligament.
-Recommend VeloBuild Chinese Carbon? NO WAY.
LONGER VERSION:
I took great care to put this bike together, to inspect it before and after every ride. I had never crashed before this incident occurred. I had the bike for only a month and a half.
The back triangle of the frame snapped upon landing a 2 ft drop at decent speed. I broke my leg as a result. I am grateful i didn't further injure myself. Recovery time has been a pain. Mountain biking is great fun, but there is too much at stake to use unreliable gear. These frames are not reliable. I would not trust anything they make. If this video can dissuade you from making the same mistake I made, then it is worthwhile. There is no such thing as cheap carbon. And if it is cheap, then it is too good to be true!
If Carbon is too pricey or worrisome, stick with aluminum.
Safe riding!
Hopefully the leg stilt isn’t Chinese carbon
LMAO 😂 😂
Haha probably. The next review will be about it
Wouldn't want him to break his leg
Takes a step and it snaps
Aww snap
At first it looked as if you lost the leg.
isnt a lost leg is just fake :P
@@HarleyQ I think i just had a stroke trying to work out what you mean
Ikn I felt sorry for him
Now I don’t care if he dies
I was gonna comment as a joke "Lol did you loose your leg to the bike breaking and having that accident?" But he actually did have that brace on because the bike but still has his leg lol.
That’s a brutal injury. Thanks for sharing. Get well soon bud!
Sorry, but he was luck with that injury
Aijo _ wdym? Have u had a worse injury involving a bad bike frame?
@@selythical8405 no but a serious injury after biking haha was much worse
What a bitch, who cares?
Dam bro sue that company for making cheap ass shit! That could kill someone .... hope you’re well and back at it!
I've been meaning to buy a blank chinese carbon frame just so I can custom paint it and label it as "Unspecialized"
Not worth it as you can see. You never know what you get and your life may depend on it. Rather get a frame from a trusted vendor and take off the pain with sand paper. Its definitely more work, but thats better than breaking bones or even worse.
Buy a quality frame- then custom paint that instead.
so here's a good one
@@nequeox618 he is saying he would buy it, paint it, then never use it.
@@madcow5833 you're dumb. Nequeox didn't get it and I explained it. wow. r/ihavereddit
Chinese Downhill bike : disclaimer - not suited for downhill riding
Lmao😂
I swear I saw a chopping block from China with the disclaimer “do not use as a chopping block”.
Not suitable for biking either
I saw an offroad motorcycle from China, and the Service book stated "your vehicle is not designed to go offroad".
Haha, it wouldn't surprise me. I remember seeing a Chinese car that came with a roof rack which said it was for decoration only.
Plot twist: his leg tilt comes from the same chinese manufacturer
😂😂😂😂
Waiting video with 2nd leg?????
Lol
Plot twist #2: hes hiking on a rail and comes across a 2 ft drop, jumps, and breaks his arm and hip from falling after the leg thing snapped in half
yooo 😂
It comes with a disclaimer card that says:
"Not suitable for riding"
Lol
🤣🤣🤣
Is this true ?
@@gerhardstefanbilling5109 u didn't get the joke
@@gerhardstefanbilling5109 r/whooosh
Sorry to hear about the accident. Thank you for making this video. I hope you’ll recover fully.
Next video: "Chinese Carbon Leg Stilt - DANGER"
jajaja
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why is this not top comment?!🤣🤣
That is so wrong.....but it was hilarious!
"I broke my hand!"
The Chinese:Thank you for the review ! We will try to improve !
Hahahhahahha i read this a lot on reviews with 1star 🤣
😂😂
Lol this happens with lots of carbon bikes. I don’t understand why people buy them at all
#true 🤣
Try not to improve *
Next episode: Chinese Carbon Leg Stabiliser- DANGER!
Lol
"It was just a little drop, not much"
GIANT best Bike Brand of the world TW#1
Jajajaja lol
Underatred comment
"Man who buys mountain bike from website with link to 'Crossdresser Costume Store' will likely end up cosplaying as pirate."
- Sun Tzu, 'The Art of War', 5th Century BC.
Lol :-)
Buy (expensive) once, cry once. Buy cheap, cry 3 times.
This is true for many reasons
I got a brand new bike, it was stolen,
I got a cheaper bike, it had problems but I fixed it and I ride it every day everywhere
@Stumble.Stop.Repeat Ever lock can be picked easily.
@Stumble.Stop.Repeat The thing is, why should you have a heavy duty lock or an expensive bike then? Counting every gram on an expensive bike, but your lock ways 5 kg. I am in the building of a cargo bike, this would be an exception, they are expensive af, yet they are relatively heavy. But your point is valid, don't get me wrong here.
Have a lovely day.
@@dieabsolutegluckskuche5174 just get insurance, it's like 3 bucks a month for a 5k bike
@George xander Even with insurance it still fucking sucks to have your own bike stolen...
Confucius say:
Buy cheap break leg
Sometimes you gotta spend money to save money
Lol.
@@andrewj3177 Confucius say
Sidharta can't afford a grand for asshole.
@@sichere well thats true, he was broke
@@andrewj3177
Confucius say:
Love you long time $20
Joe, "Don't know why people spend thousands of dollars on a carbon frame, this one is only $499."
Joe's leg, "That's why"
$200 frame, $3,000 surgery
and now the medical bill is more than a full blown high quality carbon fiber titanium battery operated one.
Lol.... Ahhh Joe, "I bought this cheap bike and it broke" ... Ummm, wonder why Joe..
Well Joe should have some money now from all the views to buy a new bike, hopefully Joe has learnt his lesson on being a tight ass
@@vileasphunk7789 this shit can only happen in USA
You know how much would surgery cost in EU.. 0$ and a thank you to the doctor
@@crohr1000 Now do the math on what percentage of your income you pay in taxes when you add them all up. The amount this would cost and America varies a lot depending on what insurance they have. I don't think $3k is even that much, TBH. I have to pay like the first $1500 and my insurance starts covering the rest. I think the same injury would cost me $2-3k. Don't get me wrong, I'm for single-payer and all that, just trying to stay objective about it.
cheap bikes get you expensive hospital bills. thats being said- i wish you the very best in your recovery and hope you can get out on the trail soon!!
buy me a bike pls?
@@aaronzerj4301 if i could afford it trust me i would
More like living in the US gets you expensive hospital bills
@@FirstLast-gv1zl the worst thing is, this could almost be serious
@@FirstLast-gv1zl I have rode carbon mountain bikes for decades now. Cross country bikes, downhill bikes, and everything in between. Never had a failure. .
Carbon fiber is 5 times stronger than steel on a structural level. Just make sure you are getting real carbon fiber and not fiberglass look alike like this guy.
Also, your political ranting is right on par with middle school children. You have programmed yourself well.
Never saw that kind of leg protese before, this looks like a great design compared to conventionnal crutches
This looks like awesome pirate guy.
It's a new design from china. Wait for the next video.
Walk 2.0, they have a walk 3.0 now, 160 - 200 usd for it
Only for knee-down injury.
Not great design when you'll have to rehab shortened hamstrings
I hope you healed up well, but I must say that a parrot on the shoulder would have been a nice touch.
😂😂😂Aaarrrrrr!
...or a parrot on his prostethic while he's sitting on a chair?
So LOL!
Piss myself on that one. Me matey! 😂
@@Ian-yf3fo who will clean that after you?
2021, the company has officially renamed it the "Flat Surface Non-Downhill Carbon Fiber Bike." I think they've learned their lesson.
Are they still selling full suspension bikes?
If this was true, it is no longer. I just checked for myself. They still sell a full sus MTB
I think they misread the instructions on Carbon. It needs to be bonded and weaved not just shoved in as a mold of particulates in the shape of a frame. Takeaway, Carbon is not Carbon Fibre.
Amogus
@@joni062443 idk why they don't just use alloy. it's not as sketchy
I see a lot of "Made in China" comments here. You people realize that most of the high end frames are made in China? Is not the location that matter, but the process, the number of carbon layers and the quality of the resigns put into the frame. There is a huge difference between a Scott frame manufacturing process and a no name brand that is using insufficient and cheap materials to copy a design. Top frames are very well engineered and the room of error is very small. Not building it EXACTLY as it was designed by engineers, will 100% result in a catastrophic snap. There are also high end frame tests that are performed before validating it as safe to use.
There is a reason why some frames cost 5000$, while other cost 500$. Risking your life just to own a cool looking frame is not a smart decision at all.
$5000 & $500.
Dollar sign is before numbers.
Almost every high-end frames are made in Taiwan. Not China. That's a huge difference. Also, top brands pay a lot of attention to quality checks when carbon frame came from manufacturer in Taiwan.
Most of them are made in Taiwan not China
@@hanshansxd787 wrong ! Even five years ago when the broken frame video was uploaded Taiwan's labor costs had already priced themselves out of most carbon bicycle frame manufacturing. Scott and Specialized had already shifted to mainland China.
Cons: Broken bike
Pros: You became a pirate
People who bought: aluminum leg stabilizer, also bought: deluxe parrot.
Bruhhh 😂 😂
@@Infidelio I see this as an absolute win
Ai ai
☺☺☺☺☺☺
That's because its made out of ramen noodles and glue, not carbon.
ajajajajaja
thats tofu carbon.😀😀😀
To quote/paraphrase AvE "made of the tears of unborn female foetuses and recycled condoms".
Gorilla Glue
ramen noodles are from japan
I didn't know Valtteri Bottas was into mountain biking !!!!
dude XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
I guess the pit crew didn’t do a good job on the bike
@Megan Ice , f*cking moron
Joe, it's James
@@luanitowbr Sorry, Joe. Sbinalla!!!
I hope you healed up well! I've tried explaining to a few people that buying an expensive name brand bike/wheel isn't about showing off, it's about buying from a company that has a reputation they must uphold and a company you can hold legally responsible should it ever fail. A bike or set of wheels isn't a cheap computer peripheral part or kitchen utensil that can fail harmlessly. You're body and life are on the line.
Even though for the price you can buy an ktm exc, taxed and on the Road.
@@SkunkTheMarraRacing
With the same money I could buy x Bigmacs, y cans of dog food or z delicious "pet" rabbits.
So, what's your point there?
Brands produce in the same factories. Good luck holding them responsible when a frame breaks... which happens.
@@flexo3333
Ah, do they now?
What company produces in which factory then?
Btw. my bikes are US made, made in Germany and from Kinesis in Taiwan. No China in the mix...
@@heinzhaupthaar5590 congrats
There are still good people in this world that warn people of danger.
Terrible people you mean. We need to thin out the herd a little, stop giving advices and let Darwin work.
the warning should be dont use any carbon frames for offroad.
@@furrane na mate. Covid 19 will take care or that.
this is just common sense that he lacked.
@Patrick Bateman Alright mate.
a surprisingly polite review given your experience with the bike.
Hahahahaha
I would be ffffff and bbbbbb .ING.
The Chinese: "Please give us a 5-star rating"
Joe: "5/5 would break my leg again"
😂🤣
Let's start Joe a gofundme! He made my day! I'm sitting here shopping for a E-bike and he got me laughing my ass off. I thought this was going to be about a carbon e-bike.😂 I'm not trying to be rude.
You just won the internet 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lolz😜😂
Thanks for sharing
I still have my heavy 16 kg mountain bike
After 17 years i still ride it
My weight 56 kg 32 Years old
I am grateful
Name brands like Specialized, Trek, Giant etc all use Taiwan or China made frames. It doesn't matter where it is made, only matters which company makes them.
exactly, quality can differ even if its made in the same place.
Great Point. I slid in the grass once and broke a carbon fork. Not fun $$$.
At least i didn't end up w/ a brace like that.
Actually cant say that about my Cannondale and Ghost frame m8. But you got for sure a point.
@@saschaschmitt592 Actually yes you can, Cannondale is manufactured and assembled in Taiwan
Joe: **Contacts the company**
Chinese manufacturer: "Oops, would you like to try a different bike?"
Who's Joe?
@@vidurachamathka2317 Joe Mama. ahaha😐 ok ill stop now
@@butterlol4196 damnit...
Our 'no quibble' after sales service post-injury guarantee:
"We offer replacements and IOU notes"
"Replacement prosthetic legs, arms, carbon plates, etc."
Like why not? I still have one more leg 😂😂😂
We have a joke here: The only thing that’s made in China and doesn’t go off is the explosives.
lol
How come 16 years in China and I have never heard it then? I miss the New Year, bot January 1st and China New Year fireworks, they went off pretty well then.
You have no 'Face' (mianzi) speaking like that Buddy.
@@markmark5269 cuz I’m not Chinese and I don’t live in China?
@@eclipses1003 how do you know this joke then?
@@user-re9gj2zd5e it’s a joke we tell in Taiwan. By “here”, that’s what I meant. Perhaps I should’ve made it clear haha. A lot of languages use the Chinese characters btw.
That happened on my 2010 Yeti ARC Carbon. I went down a very smooth drop on a trail. Nothing like a drop. The carbon stays broke just as badly as your bike. Luckily I was going super slow. Yeti is made in Colorado. They didn’t honor their life time warranty on the frame. They make nice bikes, but don’t take care of their customers.
Why didn’t they guarantee the frame?
Moral of the story: pay double but get to walk.
Easily 3x the cost
here in italy we say '' more you spend less you spend ''
@@sergio8977 I paid $3000 for my carbon fiber bike frame. It's now out of warranty and making creaking noises. I will gladly spent $800 for a branded chinese frame with a 2 year warranty given the proper research/reviews.
Murican Ignorance
If you think price has ‘nothing to do with it’ you are even more of an idiot than your name suggests.
@Murican Ignorance Built and bought in China have nothing to do with production and QC specs and requirements. Major brands may outsource their production, but they differ from the random shack that baked their frame in a rudimentary oven, as opposed to an autoclave. So yes, go take your seat at the children's table.
"I wonder why this Chinese Carbon frame is $2000 cheaper then one made by Santa Cruz"
This is why
The produce it faster bc they have no quality control
Strange though the broken part is the rock shox, which I also have on my bike. Is it possible that's some fake version of it? Otherwise looks like the part that broke wasn't the frame itself
The stays broke, look at them
@juncear The difference is just that a large brand is tying their name and an assurance that they stand by the bikes they are selling. So they do have better quality control and make sure their standards are being met. Many will have their own engineers in china overseeing the factory and production. When you buy no name carbon you have no assurance of even getting a reply when your leg snaps along with their bike. Even if it wasn't their fault and maybe something happened in shipping a large brand will make sure their shippers know to handle their stuff with care. A brand that charged you the bare minimum forgets about it once it's out their door.
@juncear yea, big companies have higher quality control compared to small knock-off companies in china. No shit. What we're talking about are small companies that don't give 2 shits to customers. Companies that have names like "starfire products" or "essence bliss inc."
it never crossed my mind to buy Chinese carbon.
but some learn the hard way.
I never buy Chinese stuff, not even toilet-paper
@@garethsoul23 *sad galaxy note 7 noises*
@@a_spire not made in china dumbass
nigga samsung is korean
You're all buying chines carbon, just from a non chines brand.
Guess what instantly became my recommended products: cheap carbon bike frames
Rule 1. Never trust your life to Chinese "Quality" equipment
nearly all mtb frames are made in china and taiwan
@@paulgray5923 maybe by gross total but certainly not in any decent bike shop
@@Shakshuka69 incorrect.. the biggest carbon fibre bike frame factory in the world is in taiwan and many producers are also using china now. only a few companies are producing their carbon fiber frames in the us or europe..u can buy eaxct same frames without the brand name produced in china or taiwan.. these shitty frames are not even knock offs in the video.. you d want to be a total fool to buy one, not because they are chinese but because they are more than likely not rigorously tested . you wouldnt believe some of the quality equipment being made in china now..
@@paulgray5923 i wouldn't have any interest in spending thousands of dollars on anything from China. Thank you for warning me. I'll be sure not to purchase any bikes from Trek, GT, Santa Cruz, or Specialized. I'll buy a Yeti or a Transition instead. China is the last place on earth I want to support.
Hey dude, you should change your profile pic. MoistCr1tical exposed MaximilianMus for some really messed up stuff. you don't want to associate yourself with him if you've seen the news.
leg crutch looks like it cost more than the bike
God bless good 'ol European universal healthcare.
Fellow Traveler cries in American
Its a Chinese carbon fiber crutch..
@@plant-basedmd7891 hahaha. At first it worked perfectly...
Chinese shop owner after he purchased the bike: "break a leg"
1. Bike shops don’t sell Chinese garbage. 2. This bike was bought online 3. A bike shop owner would not say that 4. Why does the shop owner have to be Chinese?
@@Ubions r/whoosh?
@@mexxer6948 lol
Hope you've all healed now Carl. Good warning, never use carbon for a downhill bike, use a good quality steel frame. Carbon will give no warning it's going to fail, it will just break with catastrophic results. Steel will usually yield under excessive load before breaking giving you enough warning to stop before you crash!
Vídeo should be titled: “how to go from a Chinese carbon bike to a Chinese carbon leg”
What if it is the Chinese's business tatics to sell more carbon legs by making shitty bikes 🤑
@@아수라-s3u stonks
I am sure the Chinese bike manufacturer would be glad to reimburse you for the pos bike and your injuries. I doubt this guy will ever buy a Chinese made anything again.
He traded in his 2 wheels for 1 peg leg, China has some sweet trades apparently.
Name brand or Chinese, I will never trust carbon when slamming big drops. Those extra 5lb for aluminium also only help to increase my fitness level.
who care about that 5lbs if I'm not going into a race. Some dude told me carbon is completely safe but I would still prefer alloy .
You mean xtra 15lbs
@@emersoneee2008 not that much, high end alloy bike isn't that heavy
@@emersoneee2008 If you're not going high end price range you end up saving like a pound between alum vs carbon models...
Quality carbon is stronger than aluminum. It’s all about how they manufacture it.
People around the world: China should start doing things that last longer.
China: introducing Covid19
Ha oof how long will this last
Forever
@@Djs8b pandemics last from 2 to 4 years or longer 😔
It's some Chinese individuals, not the Chinese government, and certainly not all of the Chinese...
@@denny5776 No this virus will be here to stay forever, hopefully in another year or so we'll have vaccines and medical treatments up to a standard where it's a non factor anymore but it'll likely always be around from now on
Think I'll get one of these for my mother-in-law at Christmas this year...
and then hope she'll proceed to begin extreme downhill ^^
Are planning for an assassination? 😳
@@thewonderer9551 well, that's the point : technically, it would be a simple accident.
@@BisZwo You are 007😎
Then she would be even more needy
When your leg is more interesting than the bike
How do I get to heaven? Will my good deeds be measured against my bad deeds? Do I need to be a good person to go to heaven? How do I know if I'm good enough?
Well the bible says no man is good, for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. So how do we get to heaven? Answer: By believing on Jesus Christ who took the punishment for our sin on the cross. There are no amount of good works we can do to achieve salvation because salvation is a free gift of God. We need to humble ourselves, realize we are sinners and that we need a savior.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave his only son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
It came with the bike as an accessory.
To be honest, that the most weird looking leg crutch.
I wish I had that shit looks so much easier than crutches honestly
Made by a company called iWalk.
@@cheekykarl for when you don't
sorry for the terrible pun
@@cyrustakem7993 haha never be sorry for terrible puns
Because it is Made in China~ 😏😏😏
I use to work for a big bike company in usa (unfortunately i cant name it) as a bike engineer ....First let say that 95% of cabon bike frame are from china/taiwan. Second a lot of bike company dont event design the bike 100% they give guidelines shape end pivot style and the rest in designs and produced buy those huge bike maker...They offer huge catalogue choice of frame already create and ready to be manufacture. My 13 years of hard work saw tons of big brand bike name snap and break from abusing those on the trail. I saw model remove after one year of selling because of major design issues. I own myself brand and not brand bike for decades and they and really comparable...a good design is a good design...so have fun on the trail keep you guys safe and ride as hard as you can....(sorry for my poor english)
that is why I buy american made, made in america, with american metal bikes... or German, those guys know how to build a tank...
@@greedfox7842 please tell me what brands are actually produced in America? Only a handful of boutique and custom frame builders from my understanding.
@@brutallyaverage8293 utilize google scrub...
eastern, nukeproof, tyrant, inspired, intense, co-motion, lightspeed, detroit, renovo, turner, rock lobster, Kinn, firefly, foes, moot, seven, ellsworth, dean, moccasin, worksman, and I don't care to type any more of them out...
american bikes are more expensive, but stronger, made from better metal, and you are not a traitor for shopping another nations goods...
greed fox hahaha “the American Brands” are made in China too
@@davidhuang9011 yeah, agreed, it's just a brand name right? but most of them are made in china,
the china brand is not that bad, it's not that popular that you think but the quality is good also,
even in a popular brand that incident can also happen, the guy in the video is just unlucky :)
Greed Fox - i rather choose Japan brand than american brand. Why? you can see the "MADE IN JAPAN" hahaha and the quality is so damn good..
unlike American Brand, like David Huand said, "are made in china too" not all but some the products :)
I would never trust a carbon frame on a downhill bike, no matter how expensive. Metal bends while carbon breaks.
I would NEVER use a carbon downhill bike. There is absolutely zero reasons why you would need one, and the aluminium frames are still very light.
And much much better for the enviroment, i would never buy a carbon bike, we have enought plastic everywhere.
@@Aire0001 Where you are right is, that carbon bikes are pretty bad for the environment. Where you are wrong is, that you suggest aluminum ones are much better. There are of course more dimensions to pollution, but in the aspect of CO2 emissions, an aluminum bike's footprint is up to 5 times as high as a carbon fiber one.
@@Aire0001 mining for metals is good for the enviornmet? Have you seen the desolation of a mine?
@@Aire0001 got schooled
@@the.communist How do you recycle and reuse the carbon?
It's been a year, I hope he's okay now.
He just gave the bike more travel
he's dead now, he bought another chinese bike and don't survived that
@@jorgecarvajal7578 wtf,please tell me you are just stupid and for you that's just a joke.
I nearly bought a Chinese motorbike (125cc) until I did some research, the reviews were shocking from safety issues, rust problems to general build quality. I opted to pay extra and went with a Japanese manufacturer.
Japanese quality far exceeds Chinese quality in my experience.
Lucky you, you would have posted a similar video with no rip cage
chinese motorcycles are good
@@tser8629 ......for 6 months I agree....then they start to fall apart!
@@niknoks7638 no they don't, the engine is a Honda copycat, and the frame and other parts are fine, in my country (Morocco) 90% of motorcycles are chinese, the rest is french and japanese. just buy a good brand like Skygo,Dayang,Lifan.. and you'll be fine. (they often get rebranded tho for example here the most popular brands are Docker,Sanya,Becane,Atlas Panther,Cimatti ...)
I went to a mountain biking competition event, and must have seen at least a dozen carbon frames snap, strangely none on the downhill or jumps section, mostly going over rocks and roots. I thought this was just the tradeoff for chasing every gram!
I always wanted a carbon bike untill i saw one "explode" during the iron man triathlon.
Given that the dude t-boned a confused old guy on a folding bicycle that sneaked across the road, and he would have ate shit even on a cast iron bike it was still unnerving to see a €17k bike shatter into a million pieces.
I’ve never personally seen one break (in a couple hundred races I’ve raced over the last 15 years).
That the thing about carbon it's strong but each drop, jump or trail that gets an impact the frame from a drop or rock compromises the material and it's just a matter of time after that. And for that matter I would caution anyone who's thinking of buying a used carbon bike.
@@fortunateson2 you're way out of touch with your information. Carbon is not going to progressively weaken from jumps and drops, that's what aluminum and steel do. Aluminum and steel will work harden around areas of stress and become brittle whereas carbon will remain flexible. Sure carbon can take a knock against a rock and develop a crack but the hits that crack carbon are just as likely to dent and compromise aluminum. Carbon is impressively strong, although I do agree with not buying a used carbon bike.
I have seen Santa Cruz frames broken a few times .
Carbon frame. But it's glued together with sticky rice.
stop it please
lmfao
na that would have held this was tied down with ramen.
I'm just happy he didn't lose his leg permanently
ye cos we all know how easily that happens? :L
@Untrepid One yeah, just use the FindMyLeg App on Iphone. Problem solved
They said you wouldn't pay an arm and a leg for this frame. Just a leg.
Hey, at least you saved $500. I say it's a good deal in the end.
XDD
you're not countring the fact he needs to buy a new bike, he lost money and a leg
Chinese people watching this:
Look Lee, Another one xDDDD
😂😂
anothel one*
@@gabitowwtech nah just stop
"Rook"
@@amando96 that would be japanese, not chinese
yo that leg thing is amazing, how have I ever seen this before
Cheap Chinese - The two words that should signal danger when you think you’re getting a bargain.
those 2 words are synonymous in my brain. come to think of it, i think i use "chinese" to describe something cheap more often than i use "cheap".
@zulfikangga yeah and more people are catching on as to how shit the build quality is and customer service from China. They're not to be trusted.
Nice Weber kettle in the background. Biking and grilling...my two favorite things! :)
1 second in, I already got your point.
The Chinese be like: Don't worry we have it covered. We'll definitely improve the product! Next time you'll break both of your legs instead of one. Hahaha!
Kael Tarnate haha 😂
And a few ribs haha.
Nooo, the next time it will be your lips , you won't be able to speak against the CCP
@I put my name in here then be careful next
@I put my name in here then i am from china
Maybe Carbon was a bad translation and they meant Chocolate?
They try to skimp out on the process so they can push out more product faster by skipping the processes that would eliminate air bubbles in the structure, which makes it weaker. That's the problem with little to no quality control.
Chinese be like, “bushit, bike made in Amelica”.
AMMERICAN BIKES???? SHUT UP... ALL THE AMERICAN BRAND BIKES ARE MADE IN CHINA THIS DAYS
Chinese people can pronounce de letter L
@@djmclencio leally? Ale u kidding?
@@djmclencioExcept the 212 bike companies that are in the US making bikes.
@@djmclencio oh yea.........velly solly!
In the 1970s my grandad would say “it’s a bit far fetched isnt it?” As a 10 yr old I’d reply “what?” He’d reply “shit from China” 😂
@@andrewrogers5962 Statistics don’t lie. If acknowledging facts make people racist, most people are racist
@@bloodwrage bruh, since China has such a big range of companies selling all sorts of things, many wouldn’t be be good quality. You can’t blame China for that, it’s not as developed as other countries like America or England. I wouldn’t call those statistics bad if your comparing them from other countries.
@@andrewrogers5962 I think the joke was more that China is far away, hence being far fetched
@Andrew Rogers Is it really racist though? China has been well known for producing shit goods and subpar/knockoff versions of stuff. Maybe you're the racist for making that an issue instead of the terrible quality goods that they export.
@@andrewrogers5962 so, he may well have been racist having fought in Burma with Gurkhas, he did have strong opinions about different nationalities, however the “joke “ was regarding how far away China is,
I mean it's chinese, don't know what else you were expecting.
Yeah, you get what you pay for.
Yes but everything else is also chinese
Even the corona virus is made in china.
@@gautheny Actually most good carbon bikes are made in Taiwan.
@@asambi69 oki
Hmmm cheap carbon frames and fast, downhill mtbing doesn’t seem to be logical marriage anyways.
even for a roadbike used only on smooth tarmac is not a good idea. Chinese carbon is never a good idea.
@@octavelapize6657 Almost every big brand makes their frame in China or used to in China. I've seen Scott/Sworks/Canyon/Trek factories in China. Not a good idea to purchase a open model carbon mtb frame especially when you dont know which factory made them and what's their experience ( at least hundreds of carbon frame factories in China, some are big and some are small). Not means every Chinese carbon frame is bad.
@@timwang9727 No shit i didn't know about mondialisation! Actually knowing the factory is not enough. The one providing Giant also provides low quality frames on aliexpress. The craftmanship to make a frame is the same, but they just less carbon and/or a lesser quality. In the general language a chinese carbon frame refers to a low quality carbon frame, that is not comming from a known bike brand
downhill used to be solid steel frames that would never fail.
I'm absolutely shocked - chineseum product failure, who would've guessed......
I krow righ
Not all ways..
Corona and Xiaomi ...
@@kamal92606 😂😂😂
@@ScrubNeko 😁😁
if your "Chinese" frame broke its not because of the quality but the specs to it was built from the customer brand of giant.
Chinese bike builders be like : " Our bike bloke one place, Amelican leg bloke 3 places, you decide."
@@pmbbmp Maybe if half my family (father's side) wasn't Chinese your point would have some validity....but since my own Chinese cousins and aunts and my Korean family members find their pronunciation of the r comical in both English and Spanish and I know the difference between an ethnic joke, even a low brow borderline offensive one and plain old racism like I have experienced in countless occasions I will just pretend that your comment is NOT virtue signaling and a complete ASSumption about my decency, morality, and education level, take care and have a great day.
@@pmbbmp When ALL you have is a hammer...everything looks like a nail to you, it SEEMS you have a large part of your identity consumed or focused on racism...but I digress since I don't know you at all, and to answer your question, there is racism in EVERY culture , because in every culture there is racists and there are people who are not racist, I don't believe its the entire culture that is racist or not, in my past experiences I have met both from every culture you can think of...but I can't help but notice how quick you went from hurt virtue signaler to all of the sudden condemning a whole culture with the same ethnic prejudices you were offended by in my original post.... 🤔🤔🤔🙄 once again take care and be well I am done responding to you, I think anything more would just be counterproductive.
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omg that was SO satisfying. You just owned that poor simple creature.
@@Kveeni His own diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain owned him, its easy to sometimes judge an ENTIRE human being by 1 comment that they have just made on TH-cam ( I have been guilty of it myself, and have had to apologize when required ) without really knowing anything about that person, then there are others who just seem to want to argue, fight, and insult others...( I been guilty of that as well in my past ) but this beautiful ride called life that we are ALL on demands growth, and we are not all at the same level, take care and have a wonderful day.
Yea, but think of all the money you saved on the bike.
Spent on his leg
He can spend those on fixing his leg :D
asian thinking in nut shell
inshort his stupid
That's some savings. He can now afford that big medical bill.
Buy aluminum. It has less manufacturing catastrophes, a flick of dust can cause a carbon failure. Plus when aluminum fails it tells you beforehand 9.9/10, bending or cracking.
Or just got steel heavy as fuck but you're going downhill anyway and steel bends when it brakes as opposed to just snapping.
@@ninjaxd9050 well...steel is an unnecessary material when aluminum will cover your tolerances while being much lighter. There is a large push for carbon in the market the last 10yrs. Which has increased carbon production and made for some shotty practices in order to hit the price point for consumers.
Carbon should be more expensive than it is, if we expect the level of dependability to be the same of that of aluminum. But no no, everybody wants a carbon frame for $1000 and cranks for only a couple hundo. Leading to corners cut to reduce cost.
@@oak8728 Well yeah carbon fibre used to be the stuff of legends and really its still supposed to be due to the effort it takes to make it.
That being while Alu is great , it doesn't make steel unnecessary, Steel bikes are smooth as fuck, I could never afford it but I've seen some steel full sus bikes and they look epic.
i don’t do mtbing but if i did i think its a no brainer to get something really reliable so it doesn’t fuck up on all those obstacles
thay are called features but yes you are correct.
Carbon is not reliable for mtbing.
@@muitnecsa3489 Yeah it's amazing that he decided to use a carbon on a downhill. I was always under the impression carbon frame bikes are for distance and speed and should never be used for any verticals or drops.
I will stick to my aluminum frame bike, I have crashed it many times, some crashes were so bad, had to replace handlebars, bike pedals, wheels, scratched and dented the frame but it is ride worthy.
Watch out for cracks around the dents. Aluminum does not like being worked hard like that.
GIANT best Bike Brand of the world TW#1, GIANT is made in Taiwan
Carbon bikes take way more abuse before breaking than alloy.
The issue is less "where" you bought the frame, than you bought a too cheap, noname carbon-frame, where the manufacturer not even is confident enough to put his name on his product.
There can be good quality Chinese-products... but then these also have a more decent price and a manufacturer confident enough to tell his name.
They are one of/the most advanced nations on the planet and produce some high end stuff, but why is it that the low quality crap always comes from there? Why don't other nations in Europe or the USA put out the low quality cheap stuff? Are there minimum safety/quality standards applied in other countries?
china
quality
You should become a comedian.
Well, good quality Chinese stuff is difficult to buy apparently, because only the huge amounts of crap seem to get sold. Not a fan.
You're a funny guy.
@@mukinfagic69 They have far less strict laws governing the minimum specifications for product safety as well as insanely cheap and plentiful labour and super low import tariffs, so because of that, you get;
A: Companies moving their manufacturing power to China for the cheap labour and low import tariffs
B: Chinese companies pumping out cheap, low quality products en masse into other markets. Again, the quality standards are fairly low in china from a legal standpoint, so it's really easy for them to make and export shit i items at an alarming rate.
I will say though, they do have *some* decent parts that come out of their factories. They tend to be from foreign companies though that use materials and tools specified by themselves and not the manufacturer that's producing the items, unless said manufacturer has standards that are far above the minimum.
Came for the bike, stayed for the leg cast, its genius
*Chinese Carbon Bike*
they meant carbon the color, not carbon the material
It did look like plastic. lol.
No he meant carbon, when carbon fails, it fails catastrophically, not like steel or even aluminum. And getting a cheaply made Chinese carbon bike is even worst than say a Japanese or Taiwanese bike. In the fixie circle I’m in there are three words that should never be written on your bike… “Made in China”!
@@jayceinfinitealgharhythmns9814 u realise most bike frames a made in china right? even large reputable companies
@@mgac1206
Yeah but still it’s practical to avoid them! The ones made outside of China tend to be a bit more expensive but again, avoid at low costs!
@@jayceinfinitealgharhythmns9814 what r the brands that r made outside? Specialized, giant, trek and Orbea all have factories in China or Taiwan, although Orbea not as much anymore. there are few brands that don't manufacture in china or other Asian countries.
Sadly, this isn't isolated to just Chinese brands, the only difference is a known brand (almost all of of which manufacturer in China, or will always have the same inherent flaws of carbon frame manufacturing), might be nice enough to be liable for their product's failure, depending on where you bought it and which country you're in etc.
Carbon fibre is a scam, very few people in the world actually need it.
I know Cannondale are built in China not about others.
The difference is the well nown brtands send their own people to keep an eye on production and make sure quality and consistency is maintained in their products. The people selling these knock off bikes straight from the factory don't give a shit about quality or consistency, which to me, isn't worth the risk. I'd rather spend my money in a casino if I'm going to gamble....
You’re right but not really. It’s not because big manufacturers make their frames in china that they will have the same durability compared to an unbranded one.
There is knowledge of the constraints on the frame, where are the high stress points and how lay the carbon fiber (it’s direction) to perform the best. There fore if Canondale are making their frames in China, you can’t just say it’s the same shit as an unbranded one. Because the layer of carbon fiber are just thrown in the frame in any direction in the unbranded factory. So it will snap here and there if stress get too high.
@@KingBlueSlimss I don't think that's a knock off bike, just not from a well known brand.
@@Chrissss205 name a brand
plot twist: 99% of "non chinese" bikes are made in china
He meant chinese engineered bike
Shows how much you know about bikes.
More like fun fact
What's important is if it's from a Chinese company that's making them. For example, iPhones are made in China, but they're not from a Chinese company.
Yes, but you can't compare a Chinese company to Sram or Shimano, they are made in China because people are cheaper to pay but with a good quality control and materials.
I have a 27.5 Chinese hardtail xc frame that has been in over 50 xc races the past 7 years and is bulletproof. Its been thrashed and crashed yet not ever cracked. I think that for xc racing the Chinese frames are just fine. By the way, I have a friend who owns a 29er from Velobuild that has been in quite a few xc races in Thailand . He's from the San Fransiso area and is over 6 feet tall . His has performed flawlessly too. You cannot generalize and say that all Chinese carbon frames are not good. While I was living in north Thailand many Thai xc racers bought chinese frames and had lots of success and I never heard of any cracking or failing in any way. DH is different from xc and the stresses are different too, obviously. I plan to build up a 29 full suspension xc bike from a Chinese frame this winter .
you are contributing nothing to the biking community when you buy that chinese bullshit. instead of contributing to legitimate companies that invest money into R&D, innovative technology, racing teams, etc, you buy some garbage built buy people who dont give a fuck about biking and dont invest any money into the sport.
@@adrianc6534 I lived in Asia for 9 years, raced mountain bikes there and visited a couple factories in Taiwan and China where brand name carbon fiber frames are made. You are ignorant of whats going on in the industry by yourcomments here. Nearly all Chinese carbon fiber molds are forerunner prototypes of finished and chosen final products, nearly all designed by western engineers working for major brands, or smaller start up companies who buy the molds or rights to them. My bike also uses Shimano and other name brand components. I also cut trails, and hosted mountain bike races in nortern Thailand so yes, I do support the industry and mountain biking in particular. but if you chose to believe otherwise, so be it. YCFS.
i only bought the carbon fiber one for displaying on the back of my car.. i dont actually use it
Man of culture
You've saved at least 2M lives, sir ! Get well soon
thats a MASSIVE stretch but ok you can be delusional.
bought on the cheap and expect it goes rough like the premium ones that's what happened. Almost all bike brand made theirs by OEM in shenzhen. You are buying chinese either way. So don't cheap out is the only thing you can control.
That’s what happens when you build a tight-arse carbon MTB - but full credit for sharing the experience and I hope you recover fully and quickly.
chinese manufacturing is just like that, works till the evening and then breaks down.
Where is the Laptop or whet ever you used to post your comment made? My guess is China! LOL
@@MrBeezumph laptop made in china.
what you probably meant to say was buying things from unknown manufacturers that have no reputation or reviews
@@BunnyEZ they sell the copy and worst quality without giving an honest review about the quality. If they are selling poor quality products then they should let the foreigners know about the pros and cons of buying that product. One more thing, they have sub-standards in business dealing, they always want to sell their stuff to make money but never want to buy other nations' stuff which is not even. They are hypocrites. I once dealt with a chinese business man, he was talking very politely to me at first because he wanted to sell his products to me, but when i offered my products to him then he suddenly got upset and refused me instantly in an offensive way. I used to like chinese people so much but when i got closer to them i realised that they only use other nations for their personal benefits and make chinese nation stronger on the cost of other nations.
You get what you pay for lol. People think paying 1/4 of the normal price equates to premium quality
I've had my Chinese road bike for 6 years and it's performed flawlessly. A Chinese Mtb on the other hand I wouldn't trust due to the increased loads.
Mind you, I have seen similar failures with name brand mtbs
I'm just gonna go hug my steel 50kg bicycle frame now.
Your bike weighs over 100pounds mate 😅😅
@@Ry-ss5dz That's rough
Best bike review ever!
"Chinese"
I'm going to stop you there
Come on, man!
@@canadianroot
Look
I'm guessing you are one of the Chinese in Vancouver?
It's not my fault Chinese products have a bad reputation for being bad quality
@@FGS-yk3vc Not Chinese, not from Hongcouver. I was imitating Xiao Biden, who often says, "Come on, man!"
Everything is from china nowdays.. But If you look for the cheapest stuff it will be junk . Chinese quality has improved over the years .. a good example is XIAOMI.
@@canadianroot
Lol
I get ya
Here we say: "goedkoop is duurkoop" wich means Buying cheap will cost you more money in the long run
Net so
Greedy pays twice 🤓
@4*2* 0 Polish proverb 💩
In Spanish we say “ lo barato sale caro “ what means the same
Nicky Otto precies ja
Never buy a product without branding and without proper research.
That's why I chose your mom
I mean a lot of Taiwan bike makers sell there own brand frames...That are basically some of the big bike manufacturers bikes..but without the branding.
@@rajnishsinghaluhwalia2913 Are you ok Apu?
@@Gurkhalik0ch0r0 , Definately he’s on substance
But if nobody tries them out, there's nothing to research...
I ride a cannondale jekyll. Its already 18 years old, well maintained and made of aluminium. Headshok, Fox Float and really lightweigh and I never felt the need to ride carbon because my bones are made of german steel but not unbreakable. In my opinion carbon bikes are built for now and not forever…. it is always a Question of time until it crumbles.
Aluminum weakens and breaks too. Research "Aluminum fatigue".
If we are talking longevity, id go quality carbon.
@@marcalvarez4890 Everybody knows that there is no material that suffers througout the ages, some take the hard life better and some do not. Its your decision to use whatever you like. But especially in everyday and rough use Carbon is never the winner because a bikeframe has to take many impacts and forces wich are not those what it was designed for. Let stones crash into the frame or your bike crashes... Aluminium or steel has a little bump in case of stone impact if there ist any sign at all, carbon will be broken or if its worse, the material will have broken Carbon fibers under the paint wich are like a little timebomb. The strength of Carbon is enormous but only if the material has to withstand the direction of forces wich are planed. ...and it has to be perfectly crafted. Carbon is beautyful and has many good properties thats for sure, but for a mountainbike wich should last long or a heavy duty bike?
It’s interesting in that some manufacturers are building some carbon bikes to be more durable such as Orbea’s carbon version of their Terra gravel bike. It’s heavier but would seem to be less likely to snap.. It’s interesting but for mountain bikes maybe alloys are ultimately safer.
@@kaffeemitcola6506 Every mountain bike from a reputable manufacturer has extra layers of protective carbon on the down tube at least. These are armor, and able to withstand impacts and protect the structural layers below.
Carbon is fine for mountain bikes these days. Its not 1989 anymore. The craft has improved.
@@marcalvarez4890 Hello, as i said. Use whatever you like. If you want to defend yout love for Carbon, OK! The improvement troughout the years is well and for a product to be pushed in the bikeindustrie only logical. I work in mechanical engineering (Maschinen und Anlagenbau, Technisches Produktdesign) and know the properties of every relevant material and to be honest if i have to choose a material for a bike to wich i entrust my life for many ages, its not carbon. Its not durable in case of structural wrong stress/load.
i just bought a freaking cycle and now youtube is recommending me these, nice
Mtb is different it’s not your average joe it takes ballz
$400 carbon frame vs $3600 for real good ones, just stick to alloy
For what it's worth, that's a really cool leg crutch
Nice pfp
👋🙂
-chinese carbon exists
-someone is buying
-carbon breaks and hurts him
-Buyer - Pikachu face.mp4
Are you trying to say something here? Are people all supposed to know that Chinese Carbon is 100% garbage? LOL
LMAO
The least frames are not from there. So there can be great quality
iphones are also built in china, whats your point mate. it just happened to be shitty, if you actually went around ignoring everything that was build in china you would be missing out on a lot of cool stuff
It baffles me that people dont just naturally assume this kind of thing from Chinese products in 2021. Im glad you learned your lesson
Ow. Thanks for putting this out, I'm sure you saved a lot of people
There's no "chinese" carbon ...
There are chinese companies that cheap out on QC and other imortant stuff and there are some that don't.
Then just avoid these by buying US/EU made stuff since it is not worth it to make crap in here when it is cheaper in China.
@@elukok do you know many companies that make carbon frames in EU and US?
You clearly don't know much about the bicycle industry.
@@73repa No, but nor do I know any Chinese ones. But I suspect there will be many. Plus if there will be demand, more will start to produce them in EU/US.
@@elukok Usually all US/EU build bikes are build mainly from parts made in China or other low-cost manufacturing countries.
You can find one thing from the video from which you can notice that the frame was not designed for bikeparks! It is the carbon rear fork. All manufacturers use only alloy rear forks in full-suspension bikes for rough riding. Only the main frame is made of carbon fibre except in XC-race bikes in which the rear fork might also be made out of carbon fibre. BUT I wouldn't take that bike in bikepark as it is not designed for rough dh riding and for example Canyon refers not to ride jumps/drops more than 60 cm (~2 ft) with such bikes! The reason is probably shown in this video.
When they say "chinese" they refer to budget Aliexpress or bangood frames way lowered in price, and yes the bike frames are made from countries all around the glove and not just by one country/company it's more like a collab with engineers and tests or any kind to guarantee a solid bike frame specially of carbon since it's mostly "hand made" and needs a lot of science, as you can see on GCN How carbon bikes are made, they exolain it way better than me and we know when talking "chinese" don't necessarly refer to chinese engineers or chinese industries, more like knock offs of the same frame but from another place which don't have the same seriousness and experience on the making of the frame
As a full time mechanical engineer, I just want to point out that pivot design is absolutely horrible.
I was thinking the same, looks like they were going for a VPP (virtual pivot point) design but to me when the rear wheel rises it would pull on the shock. I am aware of pull air shocks as opposed to push air shocks but I wonder if the bike could have been assembled incorrectly or really if the design is just that bad. As they would copy a manufacturer that has spent the money on the R&D im leaning to mis-assembly or mis-location of the floating pivot.
yep. Looks like they got rid of this ridiculous pivot design and updated it with a more straight-forward motion design in their website
@@keheaven if it wouldnt be broken the seat-stay would just be straight, how exactly would this pivot setup generate a pulling moment to the shock?! The forces are just not corectly transfered trough the seat-stay plus its probably not the best quality cf layering
As a full time structural engineer I want point out that your comment is out. Why horrible?
@@pigikprasatko1253 Don't just look at the kinematics only, in reality, it's essentially a "four bar" due to flex between the seatstays and chainstays. The chain stays act as the longer bar and the little pivot in the center acts as the shorter bar. Fundamental that is a non parallel four bar and the load transfer to the shock is not in line. Now you have bending forces. Yes it could work under ideal conditions, but everything flexes in real life. So speaking in structural terminology, it's statically indeterminate.
What’s sad is there is 5’500 more comments then subscribers like this dude could have saved thousands of lives and people don’t care.