Asmongold is correct about video games being directed by unskilled management who aren't capable of recognizing the bar we set. and I think asmongold supports Russia's invasion of ukraine and murder of civilians. Asmongold just doesn't realize trump and JD Vance are russian
@@wa-bu3ke 100% white men, they make up over 30% of the voting population and 70% of non college grad white men voted trump. So its also dumb, white men.
@@markgnarz5399no people are stupid with this shit... Dislikes can make a video trend just as much as likes. The best way to fight click bait is to literally not engage with it at all. That means no dislike no comment no nothing. Once you realize you have been baited you just leave the video.
@@Nexxcraft I can already tell you're angry. I'm just highlighting the timestamp of the conversation with Tom about asmongold, not an interview between Destiny and asmongold. Relax
You mean having half of the country imply that you haven't earned your position because of your skin color? That benefit? You mean having the other party OBSSESS over your identity and tell you that you're lying about it during the race while you dont mention it at all? Or maybe you're referring to the way all the slack jaw knuckle dragging mouth breathing incels on the right say she "she slept her way to the top" because she's a woman? Are those the benefits you're talking about?
Asmongold has said he doesn't want to debate Destiny like this which is smart considering Asmons politic views are whatever his chat/reddit is that day.
@@whoslistening considering how much stupidity there was in destiny's reaction, i'm no longer sure Asmon would lose automatically. i think he just doesn't want to piss destiny off more
What I don't get about progressives is that they talk about politics as though we're on the cusp of mass starvation/genocide/environmental catastrophe, but then come election day, they're perfectly happy to help throw the election to help Trump because they didn't get 100% of their absurd demands met.
Progressive means regressive now (finding everything ready and vomiting Kremlin propaganda mindlessly) so it's best to find a new term. Liberal too old for you?
Same, seems a bit obsessive when the few white men that do hold all the power and wealth have nothing in common with the rest. I imagine this obsessive language has really cost the Democratic party a lot of important support from a large group of people that are starting to feel the squeeze more than other groups, statistically. That anger is only going to grow and I'm really concerned about that.
It's like seeing a parrot behind the library desk, really I'm not asking how it got there quite as much as how we are supposed to carry on normally now that he's there.
Yeah, frats have always been made up of dominantly right wing people. That's nothing new. Like did bro think the folk known to "haze" young folk trying to join and who treat women like nothing but a sex object were once super liberal and progressive?
Generally speaking, the Incel sphere (mainly in the West), is one that overlaps with many far right white groups. Many of these types cater to this demographic and focus on radicalizing them to other ideologies. It's why you'll see plenty of large figures in the man-o-sphere have ties with various right-wing figures. Even non-white personalities like the Tates and Fresh & Fit will literally cater to white ethnonationalism (with Andrew Tate literally demonizing his black heritage and calling himself Neo-Nazis' "brown best friend" and Fresh trying to be accepted in whites only chatrooms).
People are hating on 4THOT (they're right btw) but a lot more hate should go towards August with his extreme clickbaiting and the way he titles the videos.
>People are hating on 4THOT 4THOT was unhinged and deserves an official reprimand, but lets not forget that Kelly is awful and the rightwingers wouldn't eat their own over something like this.
I'm 47 and in education. I voted for K. 4 white dudes that I work with did not vote! Age 30-60. I've been in meetings where the term "white male" was said and not in a good way. I was talking to a group of women that I am close too and they said something and I called them out..they were shocked. I said this is why K lost. Its not about the economy. Its not about trans. Liberals have cut out a huge part of the voting population.
Cut out presumes actively doing something. No Democratic leaders, nor the majority of it's supporters, are taking any kind of actual stance against white men. The only thing that you could point to surrounding this topic is the dems not *actively* courting white men, which is a completely separate conversation. And all of that is besides the fact that "white male" being used in a negative tone, by itself, is not objectively cause for concern. You're doing the conservative thing of taking a base claim without looking at any of the finer points such as whether what they were saying was true, warranted, and accurate. Unless you would submit that none of those things matter to you, in which case, fair, but I would then call into question your fragility.
@@KhalilACGbro ALOT of progressive voters deeply deeply resent white men as a demographic and they can barely disguise it. I agree with you that MOST of the DNC does not verbalize the clear preference for non male and non white, but conservatives are aware that this is increasingly popular sentiment behind closed doors on the left. While it is not party leaders like Kamala Harris antagonizing white voters, it is college students coming out of prestigious institutions who demonize white men and the DNC does nothing to fight the identity politics like Destiny himself explained in the beginning of this video. We have spread this ideology to other countries to the point that French leftists who basically are credited with creating post modernism and deconstructionism philosophy have said they totally reject “le wokisme” that has “racialized the USA”.
How could you possibly vote for Kamala she’s so cringe and horrible, she’s completely incapable of answering direct questions or sitting down and having a normal conversation for more than half an hour
@@KhalilACG They are supporting policies like affirmative action historically which dont actively benefit White men on an institutional level. If anything it makes it worse.
conversation getting awkward... Tom wanting to say he likes and agrees with Asmon and Destiny holding back from saying he think all of those things are wrong and dumb.
@lordlittletoeq8537 modern day liberals have to be incredibly careful to stray even a little bit right of the left wing narrative. So I guess your comment makes a bit of sense. Tom is probably the smartest guest destiny has on, he is not as well learned as others... but his capacity for analysisis makes up for it 10 fold, curious to see where Tom ends up in the future assuming he is still creating content.
Woke got cringe. And despite of being a total woke case himself (inability to take responsibility, fragile ego, contently needing to be placated to.). Trump managed brand himself and MAGA as the "anti-woke" camp. And here we are.
i don’t think he branded himself or his campaign as that very much, he was simply the defacto “antiwoke” campaign by being right wing and politically incorrect, he always has been, and is essentially a defacto antithesis to it.
Its better to call things like Dustborn cringe because its bad representation and shittily written whereas the inverse is Baldur's Gate 3 you can make inclusive characters without having to make them terrible. Tokens just give free ammo for bad actors to use it as an excuse to be judgemental. (I dont even like BG3 cos not into fantasy or CRPGs but i still recognise it as way better written)
1:00 that for sure used to be true, if youre from europe chances are your dad is like, either center left or center right, but he used to be a communist as a young guy, thats like, a thing.
I keep saying that NO ONE is talking enough about the how powerful the social media feedback loops (algorithms) have become for young people. I know there is chatter about it being "part" of the issue with self-esteem and influence, but it's HUGE for kids who grew up on the internet and don't even know what an algorithm is or how it works. Most adults are ignorant about it too.
@@lordlittletoeq8537 Honestly, it's happening to everyone. Whatever they search for on any social media platform becomes their permanent hell. Some of us understand that and take steps to mitigate it. Most people do not. I got stuck in my own for the last few months of the election cycle and was living in a bullshit reality, and I'm a grown ass man. I won't allow it again.
As a 6'4 tall reasonably attractive guy who is pretty fit, i hate to say it but i'm on tinder and the dating apps a lot and when i see attractive girl's profiles i would say almost most of the time there's a height requirement and it's usually around the 6 foot mark. When it's not there there's about 50% or more of the time one of the first things they ask me is "how tall are you?" And then they tell me they won't date a guy under 6 foot. I have a not terribly attractive very rich friend who is like 5'6 and literally no girl will date him due to his height on the apps. Literally none. Every girl he says asks him his height, when he tells them they block him. On the flip side something weird's been happening to me. My personal type is shorter women, and I'm now getting rejected increasingly frequently for being TOO tall. At the same time, i haven't been able to get a date in almost a year because every girl instablocks me when they find out i don't like Trump lol and statistics do not bear that out as the norm to say the least. I have no idea what's going on with women on dating apps now. I hate them.
@@YvngHomieRyan REd texas, but it's a college town. It's wild because I've lived here since 2015 and this didn't become an issue till about 2020. I'm not even kidding that my last 25 matches instablocked me when they found out I don't like trump.
The problem with the left can be seen in Destinys chat troughout this whole thing. Tom will explain basically the idea of blackpill Half the chat: thats literally me, its so over, im considering suicide The other half: LMAO RETADS, YALL GET 0 PUSSY. Even in the left, if youre a young guy, 9,9/10 chances youre going trough this, and yet the topic cant be brought up without laughter. Sure men have it good legally, or economically, but mentally we are fucked, yet its funny, its not as funny when it happens to trans people, then its an important issue, why cant it be treated in a similar way for guys? Like PLEASE
Hijacking this comment to say people should read "The Black Pill" by Elle Reeve. Find out how a 3 foot wizard named Fred got laid by a woman with a virgin fetish, did some drugs and invented the website where q-anoners would later plan a coup on the US government. But also learn about how much silly bullshit the internet makes us believe that doesn't matter and sounds insane to outsiders. If you want more hope, I'd recommend "The Better Angels of our Nature" by Pinker. Learn and endless amount of horrific things humans used to do, that we stopped. We aren't guaranteed a peaceful future, but 900 pages of evidence of humans getting better, not worse, makes me feel less crazy for having a little hope. We might have invented butter knives because we got sick of cutting each other's noses off over an insult.
The problem with "LMAO RETADS, YALL GET 0 PUSSY." is that is the default response of the average man, no matter left or right. The advantage of the right, is that they said: "you should blame feminism for that", and the left doesn't offer a simple and easy to digest answer like that. The solution for blackpilled men could be in creating peer support groups, making education/training cheaper, better working protections for young people. And all of these things are pretty left-leaning. If you watch the argument of the right, is more about blaming feminism and liberals that trying to solve men's problems. Somehow feminism is responsible of all the problems with society, they really think DEI hires are stealing men's jobs, when in reality is just corporations doing what they always do: virtue signaling and paying less to their workers.
Yes, non-whites can be racist. I think it’s a purely internet thing to say otherwise. I never heard of that talking point til Twitter came out. Moreover, most ppl who say this would use the word prejudice instead. They’re not saying it’s not bad behavior; they’re just saying it’s not as potent coming from a non-white, which is not *necessarily* true.
I think 99% of the people using that argument, are saying that it's not bad behavior. And most of the time they're using it to justify their own racist behavior.
Well now yeah, it’s mostly the internet, but I know when I was in high school and collage (2014around 2018 respectively) there was and i didn’t like it as black Man my self because it was hypocritical. Things like not allow white dude to not an opinion on slavery or civil rights just cause he was white. Like that same excuse wasn’t used against poc.
It’s not essentially true. But given the current group power dynamics in the west and America, white racism tend to have greater effect than black racism. Both are bad, but one certainly carries more weight by virtue of the society we live in.
@@And3ru Yeah. Basically one amounts to just not being cool, while the other can have immediate, real-world, and often times fatal implications. Neither is okay, but one is MUCH worse.
Destiny loves to contradict himself. He says the buy-in to right-wing sphere is you have to support Trump and there's nobody that doesn't. He then says asmongold's audience probably voted 90%+ Trump and he has a massive right-wing audience. Asmon doesn't support Trump. He openly criticizes him. Days before the election Asmon's dad was on and completely dumped on Trump while asmon agreed and laughed about it. His dad actually dumped on his supporters too. Yet his audience doesn't care. Asmon voices anti-woke/anti-sjw whatever sentiment and doesn't guilt people. That's all you have to do to amass trump supporters really, you don't have to support Trump AT ALL. Dems have basically ceded everything. The gym is toxic masculinity, podcasts are right-wing, now asmongold is a right-wing Trumper? It takes very little to take ground from the left.
One look at asmons TH-cam proves he's far right, how can EVERY video be against gays/woman/black people/trans and there not be legitimate deep seeded hatred against these people?
I think, the audience is found is part of your identity as an influencer. He can say he doesn't support trump, but when your entire audience is Trump supporters, and all of your videos are treating him like a genius and this master troll and politician, and you never actually bring yourself to criticize his policy, etc, it stops being about whether he is or isn't, and moreso about what he stands for. If he's riding this wave and not giving a shit, the apathy of appealing to them and not using that infuence towards what he knows is right, stops being respectable, because he isn't neutral anymore. It'd almost be better if he was completely drinking the koolaid at that point, at least it's genuine then. I wouldn't hate Asmon either way, he has stopped being a neutral actor throughout all of this, however.
President Lyndon B Johnson noted that "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." This fact has not changed, but you can change the white man to American and change colored man to any marginalized group, and you have to answer to your questions.
the problem is that the whole "can't be racist against white people" thing is something that basically only exists in online conversation. there are no mainstream Dem politicians saying this or advocating for it. meanwhile dudes on the right are now chanting 'your body my choice' months after roe was rolled back. I feel like the last 20 years i've seen people arguing right wing POLICY vs left wing ONLINE discourse.
it’s only online but it comes from schooling. They teach us about systemic racism which is where people get that specific phrase but obviously racism has a colloquial definition which is better fitted for normal conversation
that's because online discourse is part of reality it isnt a piece of fiction. your bad ideas have consequences in the physical world. and if you didnt see democrats pushing dei anti white woke garbage you simply havent been paying attention
Its downstream of academia, I remember when people called it tumblr'isms lol, but I worked with a lot of pedagogues 20yrs ago and they were neck deep in that shlt already, its like cultural aids.
you are so delusional bro lmao. There are women literally chanting to kill babies aka abortion. I know people in the left don't believe abortion is murder but to make killing babies a chant is beyond disgusting and we both know that. Both sides are guilty of saying outrageous things, stop making dems look like victims.🤡
I think the forced diversity shtick is propelled for money. People obsess over the Concord and Dragon Age, but totally give a pass to Balders Gate 3 and the Spiderverse movies. The reality is that characters being gay or black doesn't make a game bad, it's just the terrified publishers making games so broad in their appeal so as to not lose money since they're so insanely expensive to produce. So thw writing gets more basic and the gameplay more homogeneous. There's also been a ton of recent and upcoming games starring white men!! It drives me crazy how the anti woke people totally ignore games with straight white men as lead characters. Even Concord had one but no one ever mentioned it.
Noone outside of synthetic man has a problem with gay of black main character. the problem has been that there's been arise in games that sacrifice gameplay and story for diversity points. People reconize patterns so when games like Concord and dragon age seem to market themselve with their diversity something balders gate 3 and spiderverse didn't do they naturally get shit on. Its the same concept with transformers one there has been alot of bad transformers movies as of late and when the trailer screams cringe kids movie people naturally ignored it.
@@neubaufahrzeug9339 "the problem has been that there's been arise in games that sacrifice gameplay and story for diversity points" - have not happened probably even once. Game dev resources does not work this way. What happened with games like Concord is simply that it was a bad game that also happened to have some diversity, zero evidence that any of the alleged added diversity impacted gameplay or story.
Conservatives: We don't do DEI hires because of race and gender, we simply want real, experienced people with decades on the job...... *Literally 2 seconds later* Conservatives: ......So we're gonna nominate the completely inexperienced and drug-fueled Matt Gaetz to be Attorney General.
@@Spaceconstructs thats a matter of personal priorities, if there are two racist parties, and one of them will have power, I will vote for the party thats racist against someone else.
@@jsgdk But twitter discourse isn't how actual democrats speak or act. You only see that on twitter, and project it on to normal unbrainrotted politics, meanwhile, republican culture warriors and their politicans are one and the same, possibly even worse for the politicians sometimes (Mark Robinson). You will probably never find a modern democrat politician like Mark robinson from demos because the ones that do are immediately pushed out, because they self-regulate, but you'll find at least 3 that are like and/or worse than him on the right.
@Spaceconstructs idk I feel like how far lefties have pushed trans shit is pretty bad. When you interview people and they're literally afraid to voice their opinion on why they wouldn't date trans people that shows how toxic it's become.
I used to be the most far right guy I know. My parents are fairly liberal. The most far right guy I know now is my little brother, followed by little sister. The zoomerwaffen are coming up lmao
You are the sum of who you sorround yourself with. I think that old addage still applies today, but it has to do with who you spend time lisening to. In the past that was the people phyically close to you, or the people you read in books and articles. But now it is your social media feed. One convo never changes a mind, but it might change the calcualtion a little, people are going to be the average of what they see, and if that is a lot of women hating men, because they engage with that, then naturally and even logically almost they will have a less favorable opinion of women or the left, or whatever 'team' that hate is coming form.
Exactly, since now everyones opinions are instantaneously pushed forth into the world. You dont get enough time to intellectually think through your response before the next opinion appears. When enough of the same opinions land together people believe that must be right. Popular opinions should be the least popular opinions.
A few months ago, I started to watch videos to help me learn how to date. A few days later, my feed was full of videos of men with videos of women being awful to ther dates, husbands, etc. The only thing that kept me sane is knowing that they used the same videos again and again, the same awful women, again and again. With no intention to reach for women's perspective in dating, there is no way to easily get out from that disinformation bubble.
14:30 The weird thing that isn't really portrayed in popular media - if you walk into a University library and go to sections about feminism, gender and liberatory politics there are SHELVES of books devoted to men, masculinity, labour, health and outcomes. The radicalisation happens in radicalised echo-chambers - but actual psychology, sociology, anthropology and gender studies is very inclusive and concerned about men
Well I'm very reassured to know that the shelves of dead trees are level headed and reasonable while the screeching radicals take entrenched political power.
tom has mastered the ability of not letting destiny cut him off. simply keep speaking as if nothing happened and destinys inner girl (destinys a girl name, of course) will kick in and he'll shut up
@@chocolate_maned_wolf so do i brother but i dont typically interrupt people. i also have severe social anxiety tho so i dont talk a lot to begin with, so maybe that helps.
@@bumgopcutting people off subconsciously because you believe they are done speaking is usually prominent within people with ADHD. I can guarantee you do it as well, but are more polite and retract your sentence and allow them to continue. Destiny also has turbo debate brain.
@@bumgop adhd really makes you be an annoying asshole interrupting people because it's a strong urge to respond to a person while they are half-way done talking, the moment you guess what that person is trying to say to you. It's even worse when you guess it wrongly.
Its really not, this is in fact the misunderstanding thats at the start of the incel pipeline. Being liked and being attractive is totally different things, and almost not directly related.
If you want leftists to support the party, will your candidates actually do something to earn that support beyond "we aren't quite as bad as conservatives"?
Its actually quite simple. Do you want to vote for a party that expands your freedoms (Democrats) or a party that wants to take freedoms away? (Republicans) Do you want a party that invests in the middle class (Democrats) or a party that favors the wealthy people at the top? (Republicans)?
You have 3 options. One votes against your interests. One votes for small changes that go slightly in the direction of your interests. The third option is throwing your vote away. You'd have to be a moron to not pick the 2nd option.
Lol no he wants to cut leftists out of the democratic party entirely. And unless you are a trump supporter, they’re your candidates too. 🎉 it’s a two party system
@Kramillion Cool bud. Have fun making your life worse in order to do something spiteful that no one else cares about. You're not hurting the people you're hoping you are.
Enthusiastic support for Harris is hard because she did not appeal to the base for the most part. Half or more of her campaign was being super tough on the border, supporting Liz Cheney and moderate republicans and not seeming to care about Israel-Palestine. If her campaign was much more focused on stuff like free school lunch, expanding medicare or her proposed ban on price gouging, she probably would have got more excitement. I don't think it's fair to blame the voter base from not being enthusiastic when Harris did not (for the most part) campaign for them. Trump, on the other hand, gets enthusiasm through promising stuff that appeals to his base, like mass deportations. He is held to a lower standard, for sure, but he still appeals to his voter base constantly, hence the enthusiasm gap
I'm 5'8" and I've had dates cancelled because of my height... like no it's not been a major problem, but like, it is one of the most important things and there's no way to change it lol. Also that's dates scheduled, then cancelled, there must be dates that were never scheduled due to my height too, or first dates that never led to a second date, etc. To say height doesn't matter is very dumb. The only valuable important perspective is that there is no use worrying about it, because you can do nothing to change it
It really depends on the girl. I’ve never once asked a guy on an app how tall he was or looked 🤷🏼♀️ I’ve dated men shorter than me without thinking about it all.
What's really dumb is you thinking that every girl you meet is going to like you. Guys of all stripes are turned down daily for various reasons. Have you ever heard the word compatibility? Most women look for that.. Try that and stop worrying about your damn height. News flash!!! You only need one. You can only marry one woman.
I voted for trump because the laws make more sense on that side. I follow the money. The reality is the democratic party didn't actually pass a single beneficial law during their term except the chips act which was written by a republican and got voted against several times until a democrat endorsed it and now they claim is the best bill passed in the last 4 years.....And yet y'all attack republicans for being the crazy ones. Inflation bill only increased inflation and majority of the money went to grocery store and major food corporations pockets. The infrastructure bill - majority of this money was given to home owner company's. For example DFW went from 22% owned to 40% owned by private business due to loans given from this bill and not a single bridge or highway was repaired using these funds. Where's the infrastructure? Where's the trains? Where's the repairs>? Conveniently kamalas net worth skyrocketed right after this somehow The only good bill passed besides the chip bill was the 2019 farm bill. This allowed hemp to become legal competing with big paper and all the different clothing company's and allowed marijuana to become legal nationally as long as it doesn't have Delta-9 which is not naturally in marijuana untill drying so its all legal lmao. Check your local head shops its called THC-A which is the same amino acid. It also subsidized farmers on the pretense of lowering the cost of their goods which the inflation bill did not do. Instead it gave it directly to the ones upcharging you. We can get into the details of many more bills if you want. But go ahead attack him over reactions rather than what they do. Becuase that works...
I definitely agree. The apathy of guys like Tom is a part of the issue, where they inadvertently fuel other poeples hate. Especially since those poeple will always do the 'both sides' argument.
@Alright70 and I'm really wondering if Tom will ever get out of his apathy phase or if it'll take his bottom dollar being hurt or something to just acknowledge the reality. He knows his audience, knows their grievances, but chooses to let it fester. The only way he can show his audience it's not over is by having them get active in real life. Until he does that, no amount of empty words behind a screen will make them feel good.
Nah bro most young people, especially men, don’t give a fuck about politics UNTIL it starts to effect them socially. Being part of a republican friend group at this point in time is more fun, at least in my experience. Plus you get to feel like you’re fighting against the system when you vote for trump. The policy could be the most self-destructive shit ever but it doesn’t matter cuz it’s all vibes.
@redwoodclimber and really that part saddens me. It really burns my ears that Destiny that destiny had to explain why leftist wouldn't want to talk to white poeple and men. At some point, other demographics having to coddle one like an infant because of their existence hinging on their comfort just burns poeple out.
Hey 28 year old male here. I have male pattern baldness, I'm 5'7" and I'm broke. I have a smoking hot girlfriend because I'm decently logical, decently funny, and most importantly, I treat others well. I'm living proof that women really don't care about height, looks, or money.
Women don’t care about looks at all. If anything, being short and bald is a privilege. I know a short pot-bellied bald headed Hindian guy who works at a gas station and he has threesomes with hot girls every weekend.
Other than being tall, let's just say, other than sliming it, the gym could not help my face. Women these days really do appreciate men that aren't internet the equivalent as og internet trolls in a world were what maybe used to be a bad boy is now the equivalent of a 4 channer since every guy seems like they are trying to be an ahole to them now with rude trolling in high abundance and kindness in low supply. A good personality can really get you so far if you are ugly in this day and age. I have the wedding ring to prove it.
24:00 I don't understand that at all. Why wouldn't you want to listen to people who have thoroughly researched what they're talking about?! That's the whole thing that brought me to Destiny in the first place
@@edwardrichard8093 He also has drama and fights which are fun. But I'm sure his research streams and more intellectual debates are less suited for minds of your stature.
No we werent. We were young people. We didnt even think about politics. We were the first generation to grow up with MTV, video games, awesome toys, cartoons every saturday, and movies made directly for us rather than strictly for adults. The last thing any of us cared about was politics. The ones who did were trying to save the whales or had a funny haircut dyed with a funny color. Basically the same it is today. Most kids just want to be kids. We certainly could care less about Reagan, or Bush, or Clinton. The only time we even knew politics existed is when they interrupted a sick ass Nine Inch Nails music video to "Rock the vote" or whatever.
Young people hardly thought about politics unless it was something super big like Vietnam before the rise of social media. Just check voter turnout of 18-25 over time
Conservative in the sense of my money hate tax … the religious conservatives were to the side, but once their evangelicals figured out how to make money from the marks, I mean congregation… it all came together…
I feel policies to counter racism would/should be racist in nature, no? Like if I remember correctly, black farmers got some type of grant or subsidy, specifically because black farmers were suffering the most
@@natenate7683 Thats certainly a take lol, most people with balls will make you their enemy if you are being racist against them though, them being white and male does not change that.
DEI has international NGO backing. DEI feeds into an accreditation system (just like ESG and SDG) that corporations/nonprofits strive for high scores on that open up FUNDING opportunities. It is not a college campus-only phenomena.
This centrist take drives me crazy. Yes, a ton of centrists ended up reluctantly voting for trump because the right has a tactic of accepting everyone as long as they agree on one or two things, and the left makes people feel like they have to align on every point or be totally rejected. I wish Destiny would stop writing those people off as “conservatives”. Invite them in, validate the shared beliefs you do have, stop pushing them into the arms of the Dave Rubins on the Right.
This video is a good argument to have youtube show how much of a % someone has watched a video before commenting, cause you know that thumbnail is gonna get comments when its 100% Tom talking to destiny and no footage of Asmon XD
it’s really asinine to get caught up on whether or not member of the white majority and the societally dominant gender can be the victim of racism by a member of the minority. It’s based on a very academic definition definition of racism which would in fact completely exclude white men. We end up with two sides arguing and freaking out before they even agree about the definition of the thing they’re arguing about. Semantic nonsense.
"Societally dominant gender" is just a pointless truism that isn't reflected in reality at all. The desperation to cling to a 1950s world of male dominance and female oppression is exactly why the left cannot reach men whatsoever. There is precisely one respect in which men are ahead of women in 2024, and it's "gender balance of the 0.00001%." On the other side of the equation, you have extreme underrepresentation in higher education, egregious bias in the justice system, endless condemnation from most of the mainstream cultural sphere, completely contradictory standards for male behavior according to words and actions, an epidemic of young male sexlessness and struggles in finding partnership, and a whole host of other issues. But I'll be sure to do my part by helpfully reminding a young male inching rightward that actually the world is built for him at the expense of everyone else, because there are lots of men in Congress!
tbh the entire WOKE DEI in videogames is a bit of a bs convo. As soon as there is any sign of DEI / WOKE in a game, people led by grummz and asmongold go on a crusade and do everything in their power to cancel the game out by targeted reviewbombing, harassment etc. Its super cringe tbh. If politics are indeed destroying the gaming industry these idiots are the perfect showcase of this happening, for all to see in 4k.
I used to listen to Hasan and Asmon a bunch. Destiny, it's amazing when you take on these people cuz your videos pop up for guys like me. Also I really enjoy your breakdown of debate tactics in general, like calling out the simulacrum of the simulacrum that Hasan was using against you. Very informative for someone like me. Keep up the good work. Also drink less redbull, we don't need you having a heart attack while you're young. I say this as an old fart.
because he is sick and tired of Republicans and how shitty they are. It's always democrats that need to stay civil, but the Republicans dont have to. It's a totally different playing field. So basically he doesnt care about the firefighter or the family, even if he was a great guy. it's a politics thing
I believe the original reason why destiny made fun of that guy was because it came out that the firefighter dude had a ton of posts praising the dictator Putin. Also I think he said something about the Japanese deserving Hiroshima or something like that
There is a word that easily and quickly disambiguates the 'liberal progressives' from 'identity-obsessed progressives'; 'Woke'. Just because the right overuses it in the same way that the 'woke' overuse *many* words, doesn't mean that we should shy away from leveraging a simple and clear term.
The dissatisfaction of white men is because Dems recognize the struggle of poor minorities and blame racism when it's rigged economy. The rigged economy very visibly affects many minorities but equally affects the entire working and middle class, including men, including white people. But in order to even talk about this, Neo-liberals know they would be offending the donor class. So inflation, productivity and profits have continued to go up since the 70s but the purchasing power (income adjusted for inflation) has gone down. In a capitalist society, money equals influence, opportunity and stability. Increasingly the middle and working class have less, regardless of race, sex and identity. This is great for Wall Street but makes being a progressive politician an invitation to failure due to lack of large donors.
"The dissatisfaction of white men is because Dems recognize the struggle of poor minorities and blame racism when it's rigged economy." Are you able to show me a single democratic leader claiming, even just the majority of economic problems for minorities, are solely caused by racism? "The rigged economy very visibly affects many minorities but equally affects the entire working and middle class, including men, including white people." Again, are you able to show me a single democratic leader that claims a negative economy doesn't effect men or whites?
Issue is not having a woman in games or the DEI shit, it's cause the vast majority, we're talking 95% of the characters are so cringely written that you almost shatter your spine OR they just like a lazy sped do a lazy ass sex/racechange to an existing character THAT'S what's pissing people off, alot of games have diversity in them organically, it's just not a cringefest cause they hired the writers based on gender or race and thus created, undiluted cringe.
Tom's chat gonna be big mad at this video. Also Tom saying he didn't realize how right wing Asmons audience is while his own audience is probably 90% right leaning. Come on Tommy. Wake up.
The white male registered voter is tired of being called racist by liberals or progressives. So, they wanted to show how not racist or bigoted they are by voting maga. Yeah, that makes total sense. Way to show'em white male registered voter, way to show em.
Im about at 5:26 , and i have to nitpick. I do not identify as an incel. Im 5’11. And i think directionally what hes saying makes sense - i think there are a lot of doomer takes. I also think the money thing is a red herring these people believe in. HOWEVER, the height thing is real - even if you think people unhealthily obsess over it. I have friends i go out clubbing/barhopping with in nyc who are 6’7 and 6’9. You are absolutely miles off if you dont think its a huge differentiator. And the problem isnt that shorter guys cant get laid. Its that i have to put it significantly more effort in order to get what they are handed on a silver platter. Its pretty privilege. And it contributes to tremendous inequality in sexual access to the opposite sex for hetero men.
That's fair, but also don't fish in shallow waters. Most people at bars and clubs are just looking for sex. Better place to look is probably college or really any places responsible adults go.
@evero8375 are you talking about dating or getting a girlfriend? You’re missing the point entirely, if so. A lot of men, whether its polite to admit or not, want transactional or non-committal sex. Fishing in shallow waters is the objective. And why should that be a bad activity to engage in (or a bad goal to have)?
@@iamDeej Then go buy a hooker if thats all you want... Go be a JOHN. Since it's clearly what you want.. Dude was TRYING to help you but all you've done was dismiss it..
@@iamDeej because youre putting too much importance and staking your entire mental on something that doesnt actually do anything substantial for you, and feel that youre entitled to have sex with a woman that you find attractive. While at the same time you would make the same exact choice as her if a 10/10 walked in with her 300lb friend. You would not give the 300lb friend the time of day.
@@iamDeej I guess in my mind hookups are inherently shallow. I think it's in the best interest of most men to find long-term relationships, especially if they aren't seen as the ideal hookup partner in clubs or what not
Turkey Tom likes to use the N word that is his own opinion to be clear. He is hatful but pretends not to be. Go look at the people in his comments and it’s lots of hate.
27:31 thank you destiny, I also don't want to see you do reaction stuff as much as the other stuff you're doing. Although it's better than the drama of what is sexist and what isn't that happened earlier today LOL
You lose your audience when Turkey Tom asks if Asmongold is a centrist and you say that 90% of his audience are Trump voters. While that's probably true, I'd say it's pretty unfair to label Asmongold as a far right, fascist Trump supporter (which is what it seems like you're implying) Twitch content creators are overwhelmingly left wing... but Twitch content CONSUMERS are probably closer to being split down the middle (with a lean left because of age)... so consumers on twitch that are in the center or anywhere right of center most likely flock to Asmons stream because every other option on twitch doesn't even come close to representing their political views.
In this edition, Destiny acknowledges a plan that's been in motion for twice his lifetime as having just been green-lit. Who does he think he's manipulating, anymore?
Where are you getting this idea that Destiny blindly supported Kamala? In what way has Destiny failed to critically determine if she would've been the better choice over Trump?
@ @ go watch his video with Cenk. He talks about maga being a cult but at least they follow a person they WANT, nothing more cultish than blindly following your undemocratically chosen by doners candidate that was hated so badly she got 1.3% of the vote in the primary and then trying to gaslight everyone on the left that she’s competent, coherent, stands a chance or is able to do A job let alone thee job. He is the Cognitive dissonance final boss
@@junk1308 watch his video with Cenk. He talks about the right being a cult but at least they follow a person they WANT, nothing more cultish than blindly following your undemocratically chosen by doners candidate that was hated so badly she got 1.3% of the vote in the primary and then trying to gaslight everyone on the left that she’s competent, coherent, stands a chance or is able to A job let alone thee job. He is the Cognitive dissonance final boss
@@phillipoliverholtz9226 By "anti-Trump", you just mean critical of Trump. Destiny is rightfully criticizes him more because of the insanity he causes. Nothing Kamala has done, if anything, comes close. He has criticized some of her policies.
Saying you don't want people who think you can't be racist to white people in your movement is dumb. Writing off anyone who mildly disagrees with you is the exact type of mindset that caused us to lose this election. We can work together and disagree at the same time.
Somebody else just got spanked. Asmongold doesn't really need to prove anything. Most of the stuff he was talking about concerned what people felt and not really his own opinion. He simply didn't write off things like economy and immigration as Destiny did and turned out more right in his analysis.
When people say you can’t be racist toward white men, I think it really means that it doesn’t hit the same as racism toward black people. There’s a whole history of context and massive effect on even today’s black community…which simply doesn’t exist the same way for white men. In most cases, if our history hadn’t been what it was, racism toward white wouldn’t be a thing, or taken very seriously.
They are actually talking about *systemic* racism, but they can't help themselves so they have to sound hyperbolic for the sake of it. They have a point but they are purposefully dense and hyperbolic about it which doesn't help at all.
The history doesn't matter at all which is why that statement is meaningless. The mom of the white kids that got kidnapped and toruted in chicago doesn't think take time to think about the history of racism and how what happened to her son has happened to blacks for centuries and niether does anyone watching it. Bring up history in good when talking about putting everyone on the same level getting rid of a long standing issue but when you use it to dismiss current bad actions because of past ones you just end up losing people who would/could be on your side.
As a black man, I will say that on one hand, some minorities really do believe that. On the other hand though, that number is so incredibly small. Almost to the point where any serious conversation about it might as well be a strawman. Like we're talking maybe less than 1% of any given non-white race. But what happens is the thing that always happens with any majority group, especially since the advent of social media, which is that those
its to late to do a u turn bro you are part of the problem not the solution. so desperate for attention you put people in the thumbnail that nothing to do with the topic beside a hand wave reference
My comment got deleted, so I'll just repost it: The left is getting more and more divided because of people like Destiny and Hasan who polarize their audiences. The rightwing gets more and more united because of non-political influencers slowly getting into it, and usually siding with the right because of common sense.
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It has nothing to do with “white” men, it’s just men in general
Asmongold is correct about video games being directed by unskilled management who aren't capable of recognizing the bar we set.
and I think asmongold supports Russia's invasion of ukraine and murder of civilians. Asmongold just doesn't realize trump and JD Vance are russian
@@wa-bu3ke 100% white men, they make up over 30% of the voting population and 70% of non college grad white men voted trump. So its also dumb, white men.
@@MikePfunk Saying people who didnt graduate college are dumb is the most brainwashed college grad take ever lol
Wouldn't it be fun to find Charlie Kirk at a college campus and debate him?
August really baited us so bad with that thumbnail
Yeah, fuck this clickbait.
First time?
Everyone should dislike the vid over this
@@markgnarz5399no people are stupid with this shit... Dislikes can make a video trend just as much as likes.
The best way to fight click bait is to literally not engage with it at all.
That means no dislike no comment no nothing. Once you realize you have been baited you just leave the video.
Bro no. Your brain shouldn't be biting at all its impossible.
Warning:
Asmongold was only clickbait
19:55 Timestamp
@@azca. why does he sound so different?
@@Nexxcraft I can already tell you're angry. I'm just highlighting the timestamp of the conversation with Tom about asmongold, not an interview between Destiny and asmongold. Relax
@@azca. 🥰
@@azca. I'm not angry lol. I just wanna see post-election Destiny go off on Asmongold so bad 😁
Interesting for Destiny to speak about DEI when she gets all the benefits of being a black woman.
Which are?:
@@ossbeats8314 All that sassyness!
@@ossbeats8314 having a big booty
You mean having half of the country imply that you haven't earned your position because of your skin color? That benefit? You mean having the other party OBSSESS over your identity and tell you that you're lying about it during the race while you dont mention it at all? Or maybe you're referring to the way all the slack jaw knuckle dragging mouth breathing incels on the right say she "she slept her way to the top" because she's a woman? Are those the benefits you're talking about?
@@marcuslopez7302 so none
Stop putting Asmon in the the thumbnail jesus. Just get in a call with him already or stop covering this regard
glad someone said it
Asmongold has said he doesn't want to debate Destiny like this which is smart considering Asmons politic views are whatever his chat/reddit is that day.
Gotta bait em til they have a convo somehow
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@@whoslistening considering how much stupidity there was in destiny's reaction, i'm no longer sure Asmon would lose automatically. i think he just doesn't want to piss destiny off more
I identify as more progressive than the wider Democratic party but holy shit do I hate how progressives talk about this shit
@@LegateSprinkles gross
@@Spice.Melange correction: "reasonable"
What I don't get about progressives is that they talk about politics as though we're on the cusp of mass starvation/genocide/environmental catastrophe, but then come election day, they're perfectly happy to help throw the election to help Trump because they didn't get 100% of their absurd demands met.
Progressive means regressive now (finding everything ready and vomiting Kremlin propaganda mindlessly) so it's best to find a new term. Liberal too old for you?
Same, seems a bit obsessive when the few white men that do hold all the power and wealth have nothing in common with the rest. I imagine this obsessive language has really cost the Democratic party a lot of important support from a large group of people that are starting to feel the squeeze more than other groups, statistically. That anger is only going to grow and I'm really concerned about that.
Seeing Amongold enter the political sphere is like seeing a turtle in a tree.
It's like seeing a parrot behind the library desk, really
I'm not asking how it got there quite as much as how we are supposed to carry on normally now that he's there.
Asmon and majority of people like him won. Get over it.
@@TurtleChad1 Get out of the tree please
@@TurtleChad1and they lost 4 years ago but still believe they didn’t…but you’re saying “we” should get over it.
Damn, get back into your tree.
Or, like mixing red and blue and you make green, it just doesn't make sense
Frat boys, from rich families definitely have always leaned right because of their parents. That’s nothing new.
@@patmacrotch5611 that goes both ways my guy. Good try tho
@@Justin-fz1vf yes, thank you @patmacrotch5611 for the groundbreaking discovery that sometimes kids blindly follow things their parents do
Hasan is a frat boy from a rich family.
@@8111y oh yeaa he’s the communist that benefits from capitalism 😂
Yeah, frats have always been made up of dominantly right wing people. That's nothing new. Like did bro think the folk known to "haze" young folk trying to join and who treat women like nothing but a sex object were once super liberal and progressive?
“Tulsi gab is really hot tho” *silence* “you ever think about that??” LMAO 😂
I mean, I have.
She's like the Hindu version of Rogue from X-Men.
@@AliceBowie I thought for a second wait what is she indian ? But her mother was interested in Hinduism so she gave their children hindu names lol
@@AliceBowie Shes not indian you regard shes polynesian
i think he was making fun of all the maga simp comments under every tulsi gabbard post/video
I don’t know why inceldom is still attributed to white men only. There have been studies done, and inceldom generally reflects the broader population.
Especially Indians in Canada
@@godemperorofmankind3578 i dont get the reference
Because incel is mostly just used as an insult now, and there are easier insults to trigger non white people so people don't use it for them lol
Generally speaking, the Incel sphere (mainly in the West), is one that overlaps with many far right white groups. Many of these types cater to this demographic and focus on radicalizing them to other ideologies. It's why you'll see plenty of large figures in the man-o-sphere have ties with various right-wing figures. Even non-white personalities like the Tates and Fresh & Fit will literally cater to white ethnonationalism (with Andrew Tate literally demonizing his black heritage and calling himself Neo-Nazis' "brown best friend" and Fresh trying to be accepted in whites only chatrooms).
@@WoodChippes Its not a reference hes basically just saying "indian dudes are ugly and never get women"
Tom is the type of a guy to get in trouble and say, "do you know who my father is?"
Pathetic comment
@@theequaliser420 ratioed
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People are hating on 4THOT (they're right btw) but a lot more hate should go towards August with his extreme clickbaiting and the way he titles the videos.
Who tf is august
@@Kevin-mx4vmtrash editor of this channel that’s making bank.
>People are hating on 4THOT
4THOT was unhinged and deserves an official reprimand, but lets not forget that Kelly is awful and the rightwingers wouldn't eat their own over something like this.
His job is to make Destiny money. It's working, right?
@Ratatoothie I feel like his job should be also to not annoy people with clickbait.
I'm 47 and in education. I voted for K. 4 white dudes that I work with did not vote! Age 30-60. I've been in meetings where the term "white male" was said and not in a good way. I was talking to a group of women that I am close too and they said something and I called them out..they were shocked. I said this is why K lost. Its not about the economy. Its not about trans. Liberals have cut out a huge part of the voting population.
Cut out presumes actively doing something. No Democratic leaders, nor the majority of it's supporters, are taking any kind of actual stance against white men. The only thing that you could point to surrounding this topic is the dems not *actively* courting white men, which is a completely separate conversation.
And all of that is besides the fact that "white male" being used in a negative tone, by itself, is not objectively cause for concern. You're doing the conservative thing of taking a base claim without looking at any of the finer points such as whether what they were saying was true, warranted, and accurate. Unless you would submit that none of those things matter to you, in which case, fair, but I would then call into question your fragility.
@@KhalilACGbro ALOT of progressive voters deeply deeply resent white men as a demographic and they can barely disguise it. I agree with you that MOST of the DNC does not verbalize the clear preference for non male and non white, but conservatives are aware that this is increasingly popular sentiment behind closed doors on the left. While it is not party leaders like Kamala Harris antagonizing white voters, it is college students coming out of prestigious institutions who demonize white men and the DNC does nothing to fight the identity politics like Destiny himself explained in the beginning of this video. We have spread this ideology to other countries to the point that French leftists who basically are credited with creating post modernism and deconstructionism philosophy have said they totally reject “le wokisme” that has “racialized the USA”.
How could you possibly vote for Kamala she’s so cringe and horrible, she’s completely incapable of answering direct questions or sitting down and having a normal conversation for more than half an hour
Here you are again posting racist stuff and not grasping how you come off. You are part of the problem.
@@KhalilACG They are supporting policies like affirmative action historically which dont actively benefit White men on an institutional level. If anything it makes it worse.
conversation getting awkward... Tom wanting to say he likes and agrees with Asmon and Destiny holding back from saying he think all of those things are wrong and dumb.
ah finally some clean political discourse
Con: i don't wanna come off as dumb
Lib: man this guys really dumb
@lordlittletoeq8537 modern day liberals have to be incredibly careful to stray even a little bit right of the left wing narrative. So I guess your comment makes a bit of sense. Tom is probably the smartest guest destiny has on, he is not as well learned as others... but his capacity for analysisis makes up for it 10 fold, curious to see where Tom ends up in the future assuming he is still creating content.
@CelestialDesign this comment was a joke, and I'm 99% certain you liked your own comment. Also i suspect you're a bot
Woke got cringe. And despite of being a total woke case himself (inability to take responsibility, fragile ego, contently needing to be placated to.). Trump managed brand himself and MAGA as the "anti-woke" camp. And here we are.
Funny how narcissists can just flip reality on it's head and get people to believe in the upside down shared fantasy world.
Yeah it's super simple. Dunno why they expect the so called " idiots " to engage with politics like they do.
i don’t think he branded himself or his campaign as that very much, he was simply the defacto “antiwoke” campaign by being right wing and politically incorrect, he always has been, and is essentially a defacto antithesis to it.
culture wars have no beginning or end. theyre the perfect battlecry for a power hungry person with no policy
Its better to call things like Dustborn cringe because its bad representation and shittily written whereas the inverse is Baldur's Gate 3 you can make inclusive characters without having to make them terrible. Tokens just give free ammo for bad actors to use it as an excuse to be judgemental. (I dont even like BG3 cos not into fantasy or CRPGs but i still recognise it as way better written)
Never been in a relationship, dropped out of college, just lost my job, its over. Idk what to do
Destiny is rly falling off since his mental breakdown
>Baited with the Asmongold thumbnail
>90 second unskippable ad
Godbless this platform
It was 90 seconds?
Yikers....revance that shit
@@Ratatoothie revance requires root access these days.
1:00 that for sure used to be true, if youre from europe chances are your dad is like, either center left or center right, but he used to be a communist as a young guy, thats like, a thing.
It was a thing in the US forever as well. That's why young men now being 50/50 liberal/conservative is so notable.
I keep saying that NO ONE is talking enough about the how powerful the social media feedback loops (algorithms) have become for young people. I know there is chatter about it being "part" of the issue with self-esteem and influence, but it's HUGE for kids who grew up on the internet and don't even know what an algorithm is or how it works. Most adults are ignorant about it too.
YES!!, and too many of them literally don't know anything other than what they've heard in their info cage
@@lordlittletoeq8537 Honestly, it's happening to everyone. Whatever they search for on any social media platform becomes their permanent hell. Some of us understand that and take steps to mitigate it. Most people do not. I got stuck in my own for the last few months of the election cycle and was living in a bullshit reality, and I'm a grown ass man. I won't allow it again.
yup dispair feedback loop. who knew a basic ass ranking system of topics and keywords would destroy a generation. then again, lead was just an element
As a 6'4 tall reasonably attractive guy who is pretty fit, i hate to say it but i'm on tinder and the dating apps a lot and when i see attractive girl's profiles i would say almost most of the time there's a height requirement and it's usually around the 6 foot mark. When it's not there there's about 50% or more of the time one of the first things they ask me is "how tall are you?" And then they tell me they won't date a guy under 6 foot.
I have a not terribly attractive very rich friend who is like 5'6 and literally no girl will date him due to his height on the apps. Literally none. Every girl he says asks him his height, when he tells them they block him.
On the flip side something weird's been happening to me. My personal type is shorter women, and I'm now getting rejected increasingly frequently for being TOO tall.
At the same time, i haven't been able to get a date in almost a year because every girl instablocks me when they find out i don't like Trump lol and statistics do not bear that out as the norm to say the least. I have no idea what's going on with women on dating apps now. I hate them.
What lol. I have so many questions about this post
what region of the damn us are you in? who are these girls blocking you over trump 💀
Women are terrible all around let’s be honest
Majority of Western women are horrible.
@@YvngHomieRyan REd texas, but it's a college town.
It's wild because I've lived here since 2015 and this didn't become an issue till about 2020. I'm not even kidding that my last 25 matches instablocked me when they found out I don't like trump.
The problem with the left can be seen in Destinys chat troughout this whole thing.
Tom will explain basically the idea of blackpill
Half the chat: thats literally me, its so over, im considering suicide
The other half: LMAO RETADS, YALL GET 0 PUSSY.
Even in the left, if youre a young guy, 9,9/10 chances youre going trough this, and yet the topic cant be brought up without laughter. Sure men have it good legally, or economically, but mentally we are fucked, yet its funny, its not as funny when it happens to trans people, then its an important issue, why cant it be treated in a similar way for guys? Like PLEASE
I’m pretty sure the type of left leaning people you are talking about have been purged from destinies audience
Hijacking this comment to say people should read "The Black Pill" by Elle Reeve. Find out how a 3 foot wizard named Fred got laid by a woman with a virgin fetish, did some drugs and invented the website where q-anoners would later plan a coup on the US government.
But also learn about how much silly bullshit the internet makes us believe that doesn't matter and sounds insane to outsiders.
If you want more hope, I'd recommend "The Better Angels of our Nature" by Pinker. Learn and endless amount of horrific things humans used to do, that we stopped. We aren't guaranteed a peaceful future, but 900 pages of evidence of humans getting better, not worse, makes me feel less crazy for having a little hope. We might have invented butter knives because we got sick of cutting each other's noses off over an insult.
Guarantee you this happens regardless of political affiliation. Dumb stretch.
The problem with "LMAO RETADS, YALL GET 0 PUSSY." is that is the default response of the average man, no matter left or right. The advantage of the right, is that they said: "you should blame feminism for that", and the left doesn't offer a simple and easy to digest answer like that.
The solution for blackpilled men could be in creating peer support groups, making education/training cheaper, better working protections for young people. And all of these things are pretty left-leaning.
If you watch the argument of the right, is more about blaming feminism and liberals that trying to solve men's problems. Somehow feminism is responsible of all the problems with society, they really think DEI hires are stealing men's jobs, when in reality is just corporations doing what they always do: virtue signaling and paying less to their workers.
Buy why are men so mentally fucked compared to women?
What are women doing better to not be as mentally fucked?
Tom is the poster child for DEI
He is turkish tbh
@@AMIDH12Turkish!? Nani
@AMIDH12 turkey tom?. If so no he's Bulgarian
Worst orbiter.
@@Warsmith_The agreed lol
Yes, non-whites can be racist. I think it’s a purely internet thing to say otherwise. I never heard of that talking point til Twitter came out. Moreover, most ppl who say this would use the word prejudice instead. They’re not saying it’s not bad behavior; they’re just saying it’s not as potent coming from a non-white, which is not *necessarily* true.
nope not true
I think 99% of the people using that argument, are saying that it's not bad behavior. And most of the time they're using it to justify their own racist behavior.
Well now yeah, it’s mostly the internet, but I know when I was in high school and collage (2014around 2018 respectively) there was and i didn’t like it as black Man my self because it was hypocritical. Things like not allow white dude to not an opinion on slavery or civil rights just cause he was white. Like that same excuse wasn’t used against poc.
It’s not essentially true. But given the current group power dynamics in the west and America, white racism tend to have greater effect than black racism. Both are bad, but one certainly carries more weight by virtue of the society we live in.
@@And3ru Yeah. Basically one amounts to just not being cool, while the other can have immediate, real-world, and often times fatal implications. Neither is okay, but one is MUCH worse.
Destiny loves to contradict himself. He says the buy-in to right-wing sphere is you have to support Trump and there's nobody that doesn't. He then says asmongold's audience probably voted 90%+ Trump and he has a massive right-wing audience. Asmon doesn't support Trump. He openly criticizes him. Days before the election Asmon's dad was on and completely dumped on Trump while asmon agreed and laughed about it. His dad actually dumped on his supporters too. Yet his audience doesn't care. Asmon voices anti-woke/anti-sjw whatever sentiment and doesn't guilt people. That's all you have to do to amass trump supporters really, you don't have to support Trump AT ALL. Dems have basically ceded everything. The gym is toxic masculinity, podcasts are right-wing, now asmongold is a right-wing Trumper? It takes very little to take ground from the left.
Unfortunately Destiny sometimes gets triggered ( asmon isn’t even a political streamer lol). I usually support destiny but this wasn’t it.
One look at asmons TH-cam proves he's far right, how can EVERY video be against gays/woman/black people/trans and there not be legitimate deep seeded hatred against these people?
Asmon is an idiot and doesn’t have actual positions
its called grifting. his fanatics here will deny this
I think, the audience is found is part of your identity as an influencer. He can say he doesn't support trump, but when your entire audience is Trump supporters, and all of your videos are treating him like a genius and this master troll and politician, and you never actually bring yourself to criticize his policy, etc, it stops being about whether he is or isn't, and moreso about what he stands for. If he's riding this wave and not giving a shit, the apathy of appealing to them and not using that infuence towards what he knows is right, stops being respectable, because he isn't neutral anymore. It'd almost be better if he was completely drinking the koolaid at that point, at least it's genuine then. I wouldn't hate Asmon either way, he has stopped being a neutral actor throughout all of this, however.
President Lyndon B Johnson noted that "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." This fact has not changed, but you can change the white man to American and change colored man to any marginalized group, and you have to answer to your questions.
This analogy would work better if Lyndon B. Johnson had said it while being openly engaged in denigrating white men at every opportunity
This describes the people who complain about "DEI" so perfectly.
the problem is that the whole "can't be racist against white people" thing is something that basically only exists in online conversation. there are no mainstream Dem politicians saying this or advocating for it. meanwhile dudes on the right are now chanting 'your body my choice' months after roe was rolled back. I feel like the last 20 years i've seen people arguing right wing POLICY vs left wing ONLINE discourse.
it’s only online but it comes from schooling. They teach us about systemic racism which is where people get that specific phrase but obviously racism has a colloquial definition which is better fitted for normal conversation
that's because online discourse is part of reality it isnt a piece of fiction. your bad ideas have consequences in the physical world. and if you didnt see democrats pushing dei anti white woke garbage you simply havent been paying attention
Who is chanting your body my choice😭🤣 talk about shit only existing online lmao
Its downstream of academia, I remember when people called it tumblr'isms lol, but I worked with a lot of pedagogues 20yrs ago and they were neck deep in that shlt already, its like cultural aids.
you are so delusional bro lmao. There are women literally chanting to kill babies aka abortion. I know people in the left don't believe abortion is murder but to make killing babies a chant is beyond disgusting and we both know that. Both sides are guilty of saying outrageous things, stop making dems look like victims.🤡
I think the forced diversity shtick is propelled for money. People obsess over the Concord and Dragon Age, but totally give a pass to Balders Gate 3 and the Spiderverse movies. The reality is that characters being gay or black doesn't make a game bad, it's just the terrified publishers making games so broad in their appeal so as to not lose money since they're so insanely expensive to produce. So thw writing gets more basic and the gameplay more homogeneous. There's also been a ton of recent and upcoming games starring white men!! It drives me crazy how the anti woke people totally ignore games with straight white men as lead characters. Even Concord had one but no one ever mentioned it.
@@sunnyta1990 You are just confused because you are whacking at a strawman.
Noone outside of synthetic man has a problem with gay of black main character. the problem has been that there's been arise in games that sacrifice gameplay and story for diversity points. People reconize patterns so when games like Concord and dragon age seem to market themselve with their diversity something balders gate 3 and spiderverse didn't do they naturally get shit on. Its the same concept with transformers one there has been alot of bad transformers movies as of late and when the trailer screams cringe kids movie people naturally ignored it.
@@neubaufahrzeug9339 "the problem has been that there's been arise in games that sacrifice gameplay and story for diversity points" - have not happened probably even once. Game dev resources does not work this way. What happened with games like Concord is simply that it was a bad game that also happened to have some diversity, zero evidence that any of the alleged added diversity impacted gameplay or story.
Whoever told you that, lied to you.
What about the conveniently left to the side of your argument Dragon Age? 😂 the internet is full of cringe woke compilations @Henrik_Holst
Conservatives: We don't do DEI hires because of race and gender, we simply want real, experienced people with decades on the job......
*Literally 2 seconds later*
Conservatives: ......So we're gonna nominate the completely inexperienced and drug-fueled Matt Gaetz to be Attorney General.
Yes both sides are shit you’ve figured it out
@@DJ-wl5qoone side is more shit tho. That’s the problem you can’t seem to grasp.
@@Spaceconstructs thats a matter of personal priorities, if there are two racist parties, and one of them will have power, I will vote for the party thats racist against someone else.
@@jsgdk But twitter discourse isn't how actual democrats speak or act. You only see that on twitter, and project it on to normal unbrainrotted politics, meanwhile, republican culture warriors and their politicans are one and the same, possibly even worse for the politicians sometimes (Mark Robinson). You will probably never find a modern democrat politician like Mark robinson from demos because the ones that do are immediately pushed out, because they self-regulate, but you'll find at least 3 that are like and/or worse than him on the right.
@Spaceconstructs idk I feel like how far lefties have pushed trans shit is pretty bad. When you interview people and they're literally afraid to voice their opinion on why they wouldn't date trans people that shows how toxic it's become.
Lemme guess, Asmongold appears in this video for 2 minutes, and it's a reaction to a recent video of his, not the debate we're all hoping for
I used to be the most far right guy I know. My parents are fairly liberal. The most far right guy I know now is my little brother, followed by little sister. The zoomerwaffen are coming up lmao
why is this black streamer talking about a topic like this?🤔
You are the sum of who you sorround yourself with.
I think that old addage still applies today, but it has to do with who you spend time lisening to. In the past that was the people phyically close to you, or the people you read in books and articles. But now it is your social media feed.
One convo never changes a mind, but it might change the calcualtion a little, people are going to be the average of what they see, and if that is a lot of women hating men, because they engage with that, then naturally and even logically almost they will have a less favorable opinion of women or the left, or whatever 'team' that hate is coming form.
Exactly, since now everyones opinions are instantaneously pushed forth into the world. You dont get enough time to intellectually think through your response before the next opinion appears. When enough of the same opinions land together people believe that must be right. Popular opinions should be the least popular opinions.
A few months ago, I started to watch videos to help me learn how to date. A few days later, my feed was full of videos of men with videos of women being awful to ther dates, husbands, etc. The only thing that kept me sane is knowing that they used the same videos again and again, the same awful women, again and again. With no intention to reach for women's perspective in dating, there is no way to easily get out from that disinformation bubble.
@@LuvpigIt's almost like gasp, propaganda works that way!
Destiny is a DEI name
14:30 The weird thing that isn't really portrayed in popular media - if you walk into a University library and go to sections about feminism, gender and liberatory politics there are SHELVES of books devoted to men, masculinity, labour, health and outcomes. The radicalisation happens in radicalised echo-chambers - but actual psychology, sociology, anthropology and gender studies is very inclusive and concerned about men
No😊
Well I'm very reassured to know that the shelves of dead trees are level headed and reasonable while the screeching radicals take entrenched political power.
They are about men but criticing male behaviour not how men can deal with issues or problems or advice in their lives 😊
@@outlaster3431 wrong. Go and actually read please. They are non moralizing
@@6Churches I never said moralizing , I said criticing, you can critic without moralizing
What is it with the Tom hate?
He dares to not agree with Destiny on everything and the Tiny community can't stand it. That's basically it.
Toms right, iv personally found it really hard to introduce Destiny to anyone that isn’t terminally online.
tom has mastered the ability of not letting destiny cut him off. simply keep speaking as if nothing happened and destinys inner girl (destinys a girl name, of course) will kick in and he'll shut up
destiny has adhd fyi
@@chocolate_maned_wolf so do i brother but i dont typically interrupt people. i also have severe social anxiety tho so i dont talk a lot to begin with, so maybe that helps.
@@bumgopcutting people off subconsciously because you believe they are done speaking is usually prominent within people with ADHD. I can guarantee you do it as well, but are more polite and retract your sentence and allow them to continue. Destiny also has turbo debate brain.
@@bumgop adhd really makes you be an annoying asshole interrupting people because it's a strong urge to respond to a person while they are half-way done talking, the moment you guess what that person is trying to say to you. It's even worse when you guess it wrongly.
I think most people have lost touch with the fact that "dating" is a sub-concept of friendship...
Its really not, this is in fact the misunderstanding thats at the start of the incel pipeline.
Being liked and being attractive is totally different things, and almost not directly related.
i don't even know what that is supposed to mean but i'm leaning towards agreeing with jsgdk.
If you want leftists to support the party, will your candidates actually do something to earn that support beyond "we aren't quite as bad as conservatives"?
Its actually quite simple. Do you want to vote for a party that expands your freedoms (Democrats) or a party that wants to take freedoms away? (Republicans) Do you want a party that invests in the middle class (Democrats) or a party that favors the wealthy people at the top? (Republicans)?
You have 3 options. One votes against your interests. One votes for small changes that go slightly in the direction of your interests. The third option is throwing your vote away. You'd have to be a moron to not pick the 2nd option.
Lol no he wants to cut leftists out of the democratic party entirely. And unless you are a trump supporter, they’re your candidates too. 🎉 it’s a two party system
@@donniejefferson9554I choose option 3 out of spite for anyone who uses this phrase ‘throw your vote away’
@Kramillion Cool bud. Have fun making your life worse in order to do something spiteful that no one else cares about. You're not hurting the people you're hoping you are.
Enthusiastic support for Harris is hard because she did not appeal to the base for the most part. Half or more of her campaign was being super tough on the border, supporting Liz Cheney and moderate republicans and not seeming to care about Israel-Palestine.
If her campaign was much more focused on stuff like free school lunch, expanding medicare or her proposed ban on price gouging, she probably would have got more excitement. I don't think it's fair to blame the voter base from not being enthusiastic when Harris did not (for the most part) campaign for them.
Trump, on the other hand, gets enthusiasm through promising stuff that appeals to his base, like mass deportations. He is held to a lower standard, for sure, but he still appeals to his voter base constantly, hence the enthusiasm gap
I agree, Harris’ platform felt like a conservative platform from 10 years ago. Not thrilling to vote for
I'm 5'8" and I've had dates cancelled because of my height... like no it's not been a major problem, but like, it is one of the most important things and there's no way to change it lol. Also that's dates scheduled, then cancelled, there must be dates that were never scheduled due to my height too, or first dates that never led to a second date, etc. To say height doesn't matter is very dumb. The only valuable important perspective is that there is no use worrying about it, because you can do nothing to change it
It really depends on the girl. I’ve never once asked a guy on an app how tall he was or looked 🤷🏼♀️ I’ve dated men shorter than me without thinking about it all.
What's really dumb is you thinking that every girl you meet is going to like you. Guys of all stripes are turned down daily for various reasons. Have you ever heard the word compatibility? Most women look for that.. Try that and stop worrying about your damn height. News flash!!! You only need one. You can only marry one woman.
They voted for Trump because of apathetic boys like Tom dark. You always say you don’t care so stay out of it.
I voted for trump because the laws make more sense on that side. I follow the money.
The reality is the democratic party didn't actually pass a single beneficial law during their term except the chips act which was written by a republican and got voted against several times until a democrat endorsed it and now they claim is the best bill passed in the last 4 years.....And yet y'all attack republicans for being the crazy ones.
Inflation bill only increased inflation and majority of the money went to grocery store and major food corporations pockets.
The infrastructure bill - majority of this money was given to home owner company's. For example DFW went from 22% owned to 40% owned by private business due to loans given from this bill and not a single bridge or highway was repaired using these funds. Where's the infrastructure? Where's the trains? Where's the repairs>? Conveniently kamalas net worth skyrocketed right after this somehow
The only good bill passed besides the chip bill was the 2019 farm bill. This allowed hemp to become legal competing with big paper and all the different clothing company's and allowed marijuana to become legal nationally as long as it doesn't have Delta-9 which is not naturally in marijuana untill drying so its all legal lmao. Check your local head shops its called THC-A which is the same amino acid.
It also subsidized farmers on the pretense of lowering the cost of their goods which the inflation bill did not do. Instead it gave it directly to the ones upcharging you.
We can get into the details of many more bills if you want. But go ahead attack him over reactions rather than what they do. Becuase that works...
I definitely agree. The apathy of guys like Tom is a part of the issue, where they inadvertently fuel other poeples hate. Especially since those poeple will always do the 'both sides' argument.
@Alright70 and I'm really wondering if Tom will ever get out of his apathy phase or if it'll take his bottom dollar being hurt or something to just acknowledge the reality. He knows his audience, knows their grievances, but chooses to let it fester. The only way he can show his audience it's not over is by having them get active in real life. Until he does that, no amount of empty words behind a screen will make them feel good.
Nah bro most young people, especially men, don’t give a fuck about politics UNTIL it starts to effect them socially. Being part of a republican friend group at this point in time is more fun, at least in my experience. Plus you get to feel like you’re fighting against the system when you vote for trump. The policy could be the most self-destructive shit ever but it doesn’t matter cuz it’s all vibes.
@redwoodclimber
and really that part saddens me. It really burns my ears that Destiny that destiny had to explain why leftist wouldn't want to talk to white poeple and men.
At some point, other demographics having to coddle one like an infant because of their existence hinging on their comfort just burns poeple out.
Hey 28 year old male here. I have male pattern baldness, I'm 5'7" and I'm broke. I have a smoking hot girlfriend because I'm decently logical, decently funny, and most importantly, I treat others well. I'm living proof that women really don't care about height, looks, or money.
Do you share her
@@mekhane8045what time of incel comment is this? 😂
Women don’t care about looks at all. If anything, being short and bald is a privilege. I know a short pot-bellied bald headed Hindian guy who works at a gas station and he has threesomes with hot girls every weekend.
Other than being tall, let's just say, other than sliming it, the gym could not help my face. Women these days really do appreciate men that aren't internet the equivalent as og internet trolls in a world were what maybe used to be a bad boy is now the equivalent of a 4 channer since every guy seems like they are trying to be an ahole to them now with rude trolling in high abundance and kindness in low supply. A good personality can really get you so far if you are ugly in this day and age. I have the wedding ring to prove it.
@@mekhane8045 no I’m not destiny lmao
why is he talking to turkey tom as if he has anything of value to say?
He's trying to stop gooning.
Why are you commenting like you have something valuable to say?
Why is he talking to destiny as if he has anything of value to say?
Who are you?
This is really neat to watch. Destiny slowly losing his mind.
Clicking on this video only to see Turkey Tom is in all 30 minutes of it. Truly a terrible feeling.
24:00 I don't understand that at all. Why wouldn't you want to listen to people who have thoroughly researched what they're talking about?! That's the whole thing that brought me to Destiny in the first place
Exactly.
I don't need mindless people to emote at things they don't understand and can't explain accurately and throughly 😂
Destiny researching??? that is hilarious 😂 😃 😄
@@albow4oops5 Looks like you're new around the block🤣
Yes, he has many research streams and debates.
He doesn't just $hit talk and yell at people.
@RubenO.-tz5vv ah yes people would rather watch someone reading Wikipedia or research papers for 8 hours instead of something more entertaining.
@@edwardrichard8093 He also has drama and fights which are fun.
But I'm sure his research streams and more intellectual debates are less suited for minds of your stature.
Young people were very conservative in the 80's
That’s a silly thing to say. Young people in the 80’s were all over the place politically and culturally. Just like now
No we werent. We were young people. We didnt even think about politics. We were the first generation to grow up with MTV, video games, awesome toys, cartoons every saturday, and movies made directly for us rather than strictly for adults. The last thing any of us cared about was politics. The ones who did were trying to save the whales or had a funny haircut dyed with a funny color. Basically the same it is today. Most kids just want to be kids. We certainly could care less about Reagan, or Bush, or Clinton. The only time we even knew politics existed is when they interrupted a sick ass Nine Inch Nails music video to "Rock the vote" or whatever.
Young people hardly thought about politics unless it was something super big like Vietnam before the rise of social media. Just check voter turnout of 18-25 over time
Conservative in the sense of my money hate tax … the religious conservatives were to the side, but once their evangelicals figured out how to make money from the marks, I mean congregation… it all came together…
Young people also liked gay porn in the 80's
The thumbnail bait is getting sad. All it does is remind me how you can't actually get decent guests.
Bro went from "I'm not like a huge Asmongold fan" to "He's my number one goat" in less than 5mins
That was the joke yeah
TBH, DEI in it s core is kindaf racist
Why is it fellow anime enjoyer
Why?
I feel policies to counter racism would/should be racist in nature, no? Like if I remember correctly, black farmers got some type of grant or subsidy, specifically because black farmers were suffering the most
@@levi2732 obviously.
@@natenate7683 Thats certainly a take lol, most people with balls will make you their enemy if you are being racist against them though, them being white and male does not change that.
"If you're young and not liberal you're heartless, if you're old and not conservative you're an idiot
- Winston Churchill
- Tuckey Tom
i really dislike turkey tom
I really like turkey tom so your comment cancels out
Then get lost
why? im genuinely clueless
As long as destiny doesn't go debate mode on asmon, a conversation between the two would quite interesting.
He cannot help himself.
I really didn´t need Tom's opinion on the suject
Then dont watch genius
Your parents didn’t ‘need’ you to exist but here we are
Isn’t that ironic😂
You missed and then you lost lol
I HATE HEARING ABOUT OPPOSING IDEAS! I HATE IT WHEN DESTINY TALKS TO PEOPLE OUTSIDE HIS BUBBLE! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
What's more likely to get into college, DEI kids or rich kids?
Rich DEI kids.
I just dislike tom
All his conversations feel pointless.
Then don’t watch ffs
DEI has international NGO backing. DEI feeds into an accreditation system (just like ESG and SDG) that corporations/nonprofits strive for high scores on that open up FUNDING opportunities. It is not a college campus-only phenomena.
12:15
Trump voters
versus Trump supporters
Fun fact, totally different groups
This. MAGA isn't about Trump, it's about the country. I wish we had movements like this in Europe.
This centrist take drives me crazy. Yes, a ton of centrists ended up reluctantly voting for trump because the right has a tactic of accepting everyone as long as they agree on one or two things, and the left makes people feel like they have to align on every point or be totally rejected. I wish Destiny would stop writing those people off as “conservatives”. Invite them in, validate the shared beliefs you do have, stop pushing them into the arms of the Dave Rubins on the Right.
DEIstiny
CHECKMATE
THIS IS ONLY BECAUSE SHE IS A BLACK WOMAN!
Is this really main channel content?
No. Kellyjean and 4thot had a huge blow up including Dan and jstlk, on both streams for like 6hrs. That's main channel content
This video is a good argument to have youtube show how much of a % someone has watched a video before commenting, cause you know that thumbnail is gonna get comments when its 100% Tom talking to destiny and no footage of Asmon XD
Woody from PKA would be a good one for reaching young men.
Unironically yes
Do we need to identify the guest in this program?
it’s really asinine to get caught up on whether or not member of the white majority and the societally dominant gender can be the victim of racism by a member of the minority. It’s based on a very academic definition definition of racism which would in fact completely exclude white men. We end up with two sides arguing and freaking out before they even agree about the definition of the thing they’re arguing about. Semantic nonsense.
"Societally dominant gender" is just a pointless truism that isn't reflected in reality at all. The desperation to cling to a 1950s world of male dominance and female oppression is exactly why the left cannot reach men whatsoever. There is precisely one respect in which men are ahead of women in 2024, and it's "gender balance of the 0.00001%." On the other side of the equation, you have extreme underrepresentation in higher education, egregious bias in the justice system, endless condemnation from most of the mainstream cultural sphere, completely contradictory standards for male behavior according to words and actions, an epidemic of young male sexlessness and struggles in finding partnership, and a whole host of other issues.
But I'll be sure to do my part by helpfully reminding a young male inching rightward that actually the world is built for him at the expense of everyone else, because there are lots of men in Congress!
The guy lost me when he started going on about Tulsi Gabbard's looks. Yeah, that's what matters.
tbh the entire WOKE DEI in videogames is a bit of a bs convo. As soon as there is any sign of DEI / WOKE in a game, people led by grummz and asmongold go on a crusade and do everything in their power to cancel the game out by targeted reviewbombing, harassment etc. Its super cringe tbh. If politics are indeed destroying the gaming industry these idiots are the perfect showcase of this happening, for all to see in 4k.
Exactly. And those are the same people who accuse us of "cancelling" things. lol
I used to listen to Hasan and Asmon a bunch. Destiny, it's amazing when you take on these people cuz your videos pop up for guys like me. Also I really enjoy your breakdown of debate tactics in general, like calling out the simulacrum of the simulacrum that Hasan was using against you. Very informative for someone like me. Keep up the good work. Also drink less redbull, we don't need you having a heart attack while you're young. I say this as an old fart.
Why did destiny make fun of that firefighter who died? The firefighter was much more usful to society than destiny is.
Because he hates Trump and thinks his political enemies should be put down
Not anymore 😂😂
because he is sick and tired of Republicans and how shitty they are. It's always democrats that need to stay civil, but the Republicans dont have to. It's a totally different playing field. So basically he doesnt care about the firefighter or the family, even if he was a great guy. it's a politics thing
@@potatoplayer420😂😂
I believe the original reason why destiny made fun of that guy was because it came out that the firefighter dude had a ton of posts praising the dictator Putin. Also I think he said something about the Japanese deserving Hiroshima or something like that
There is a word that easily and quickly disambiguates the 'liberal progressives' from 'identity-obsessed progressives'; 'Woke'. Just because the right overuses it in the same way that the 'woke' overuse *many* words, doesn't mean that we should shy away from leveraging a simple and clear term.
Is Tom the DEI hire?
I want to see destiny on Twitch.
Where can I find?
The dissatisfaction of white men is because Dems recognize the struggle of poor minorities and blame racism when it's rigged economy. The rigged economy very visibly affects many minorities but equally affects the entire working and middle class, including men, including white people. But in order to even talk about this, Neo-liberals know they would be offending the donor class. So inflation, productivity and profits have continued to go up since the 70s but the purchasing power (income adjusted for inflation) has gone down. In a capitalist society, money equals influence, opportunity and stability. Increasingly the middle and working class have less, regardless of race, sex and identity. This is great for Wall Street but makes being a progressive politician an invitation to failure due to lack of large donors.
"The dissatisfaction of white men is because Dems recognize the struggle of poor minorities and blame racism when it's rigged economy."
Are you able to show me a single democratic leader claiming, even just the majority of economic problems for minorities, are solely caused by racism?
"The rigged economy very visibly affects many minorities but equally affects the entire working and middle class, including men, including white people."
Again, are you able to show me a single democratic leader that claims a negative economy doesn't effect men or whites?
Louis CK once said “I’m a white man you can’t hurt my feelings” but you can....you can (insert song dust in the wind).
A sizable chunk of those guys who think “it’s over” are a bit “lazy” or unable to take rejection. So much easier to sign-out.
Asmon doesn't crumble, people just misunderstand his position constantly because his audience is so conservative.
Issue is not having a woman in games or the DEI shit, it's cause the vast majority, we're talking 95% of the characters are so cringely written that you almost shatter your spine OR they just like a lazy sped do a lazy ass sex/racechange to an existing character THAT'S what's pissing people off, alot of games have diversity in them organically, it's just not a cringefest cause they hired the writers based on gender or race and thus created, undiluted cringe.
Obligatory destiny is a black women's name comment. Likes are right here. 👌😉
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You got me
Tom's chat gonna be big mad at this video.
Also Tom saying he didn't realize how right wing Asmons audience is while his own audience is probably 90% right leaning.
Come on Tommy. Wake up.
Turkey Tom isn’t the brightest……..
The white male registered voter is tired of being called racist by liberals or progressives. So, they wanted to show how not racist or bigoted they are by voting maga. Yeah, that makes total sense. Way to show'em white male registered voter, way to show em.
Im about at 5:26 , and i have to nitpick.
I do not identify as an incel. Im 5’11. And i think directionally what hes saying makes sense - i think there are a lot of doomer takes. I also think the money thing is a red herring these people believe in.
HOWEVER, the height thing is real - even if you think people unhealthily obsess over it. I have friends i go out clubbing/barhopping with in nyc who are 6’7 and 6’9. You are absolutely miles off if you dont think its a huge differentiator.
And the problem isnt that shorter guys cant get laid. Its that i have to put it significantly more effort in order to get what they are handed on a silver platter. Its pretty privilege. And it contributes to tremendous inequality in sexual access to the opposite sex for hetero men.
That's fair, but also don't fish in shallow waters. Most people at bars and clubs are just looking for sex. Better place to look is probably college or really any places responsible adults go.
@evero8375 are you talking about dating or getting a girlfriend? You’re missing the point entirely, if so.
A lot of men, whether its polite to admit or not, want transactional or non-committal sex. Fishing in shallow waters is the objective. And why should that be a bad activity to engage in (or a bad goal to have)?
@@iamDeej Then go buy a hooker if thats all you want... Go be a JOHN. Since it's clearly what you want.. Dude was TRYING to help you but all you've done was dismiss it..
@@iamDeej because youre putting too much importance and staking your entire mental on something that doesnt actually do anything substantial for you, and feel that youre entitled to have sex with a woman that you find attractive. While at the same time you would make the same exact choice as her if a 10/10 walked in with her 300lb friend. You would not give the 300lb friend the time of day.
@@iamDeej I guess in my mind hookups are inherently shallow. I think it's in the best interest of most men to find long-term relationships, especially if they aren't seen as the ideal hookup partner in clubs or what not
Finally man I've been waiting for Destiny to talk about this stuff
Who did your wife’s BF vote for?
Turkey Tom likes to use the N word that is his own opinion to be clear. He is hatful but pretends not to be. Go look at the people in his comments and it’s lots of hate.
What does “hate” mean anymore?
Oh no a random idiot thinks slurs are funny! Its the end of the world!
@ it’s not confusing to someone who tries to be a human.
27:31 thank you destiny, I also don't want to see you do reaction stuff as much as the other stuff you're doing. Although it's better than the drama of what is sexist and what isn't that happened earlier today LOL
You lose your audience when Turkey Tom asks if Asmongold is a centrist and you say that 90% of his audience are Trump voters.
While that's probably true, I'd say it's pretty unfair to label Asmongold as a far right, fascist Trump supporter (which is what it seems like you're implying)
Twitch content creators are overwhelmingly left wing... but Twitch content CONSUMERS are probably closer to being split down the middle (with a lean left because of age)... so consumers on twitch that are in the center or anywhere right of center most likely flock to Asmons stream because every other option on twitch doesn't even come close to representing their political views.
You know that treating everything as food to eat is what brought us here right?
The guy hosted is no match for Destiny. Holy crap was that boring. Even Destiny was bored.
a lot of this is why I switched from Dem to Rep
So you’re identity politics lmao
I’m a straight cis white man. I get the feeling of all the unnecessary hate from the left. But holy shit that would never make me vote for Trump.
That's a pretty dumb reason to switch. I bet you switched teams in call of duty because you were about to lose.
Man this guys really dumb
I vote based on tweets also
In this edition, Destiny acknowledges a plan that's been in motion for twice his lifetime as having just been green-lit. Who does he think he's manipulating, anymore?
I’m sorry what?! You blindly supported Kamala as much as the right blindly supported Trump. More of that legendary cognitive dissonance
Where are you getting this idea that Destiny blindly supported Kamala? In what way has Destiny failed to critically determine if she would've been the better choice over Trump?
@ @ go watch his video with Cenk. He talks about maga being a cult but at least they follow a person they WANT, nothing more cultish than blindly following your undemocratically chosen by doners candidate that was hated so badly she got 1.3% of the vote in the primary and then trying to gaslight everyone on the left that she’s competent, coherent, stands a chance or is able to do A job let alone thee job. He is the Cognitive dissonance final boss
@@junk130899% of destinys content has been anti trump, not pro kamala... thats enough.
@@junk1308 watch his video with Cenk. He talks about the right being a cult but at least they follow a person they WANT, nothing more cultish than blindly following your undemocratically chosen by doners candidate that was hated so badly she got 1.3% of the vote in the primary and then trying to gaslight everyone on the left that she’s competent, coherent, stands a chance or is able to A job let alone thee job. He is the Cognitive dissonance final boss
@@phillipoliverholtz9226 By "anti-Trump", you just mean critical of Trump. Destiny is rightfully criticizes him more because of the insanity he causes. Nothing Kamala has done, if anything, comes close. He has criticized some of her policies.
Even if people vote conservative doesnt mean they are conservative.
Saying you don't want people who think you can't be racist to white people in your movement is dumb. Writing off anyone who mildly disagrees with you is the exact type of mindset that caused us to lose this election. We can work together and disagree at the same time.
Nah I’m not working with anyone who thinks like that because why should I trust a thing they say?
Yes keep the old strategy up. It’s how you guys gained the majority of the white vote in 2024 right?…….Right?
@@DJ-wl5qo But you want white men who think Haitians are eating your komodo dragons.
@@griffiththechad9483 What do you think happens to the black vote if Democrats pander for the white vote?
I think asmangold doesn’t want to have a conversation with destiny because he knows he’ll get spanked.
Somebody else just got spanked. Asmongold doesn't really need to prove anything. Most of the stuff he was talking about concerned what people felt and not really his own opinion. He simply didn't write off things like economy and immigration as Destiny did and turned out more right in his analysis.
When people say you can’t be racist toward white men, I think it really means that it doesn’t hit the same as racism toward black people. There’s a whole history of context and massive effect on even today’s black community…which simply doesn’t exist the same way for white men. In most cases, if our history hadn’t been what it was, racism toward white wouldn’t be a thing, or taken very seriously.
They are actually talking about *systemic* racism, but they can't help themselves so they have to sound hyperbolic for the sake of it.
They have a point but they are purposefully dense and hyperbolic about it which doesn't help at all.
The history doesn't matter at all which is why that statement is meaningless. The mom of the white kids that got kidnapped and toruted in chicago doesn't think take time to think about the history of racism and how what happened to her son has happened to blacks for centuries and niether does anyone watching it. Bring up history in good when talking about putting everyone on the same level getting rid of a long standing issue but when you use it to dismiss current bad actions because of past ones you just end up losing people who would/could be on your side.
As a black man, I will say that on one hand, some minorities really do believe that. On the other hand though, that number is so incredibly small. Almost to the point where any serious conversation about it might as well be a strawman. Like we're talking maybe less than 1% of any given non-white race.
But what happens is the thing that always happens with any majority group, especially since the advent of social media, which is that those
That's not what they mean. Everyone I've ever seen say it used it as a "get out of jail free card" for a bigoted statement they just said.
its to late to do a u turn bro you are part of the problem not the solution. so desperate for attention you put people in the thumbnail that nothing to do with the topic beside a hand wave reference
After my first breakups at 23 I was a mgtow and maga. Married dem voter now at 35. It is just a normal young dude thing
Destiny: we need a bigger tent
Also Destiny: we need to kick the leftists out of the party
This. Destiny and Hasan are two perfect examples of left divisionism. They claim to have moral highground and retreat further into their corners.
Wokescold Leftists* and he's not wrong
To be fair they are extremely hard to work with. They would never want a coalition with liberals
My comment got deleted, so I'll just repost it:
The left is getting more and more divided because of people like Destiny and Hasan who polarize their audiences.
The rightwing gets more and more united because of non-political influencers slowly getting into it, and usually siding with the right because of common sense.
@@punishedbnnuy Kick out wokescolds and invite racist zoomers, good for the black vote.