This video is part of the following article on Dropshotting for Perch, click the link to have a read. anglersdiary.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/dropshotting-for-perch.html drop shot leader and palomar knots are in the article and come up at the end of this vid. Get the VMC Spinshot Hooks here > amzn.to/3fFpihW Check out my amazon lure fishing list > www.amazon.co.uk/shop/markcarp?listId=36GJPKBJIBTOZ
thanks ray, good luck mate, just be careful with those lures, there are so many different sizes, colours and lures you can end up spending a small fortune😂
thanks leo, we were locked down last winter due to covid so i missed doing any of this type of fishing last year, it's a good way to fish during the winter👍
@@ldb0691 you catch more when they are active leo...but the carp and barbel are active too so it's their time, pike and perch are more active in the cold than carp are so they make a better target in winter, for me it's just making best use of your time👍
Really great vid, thanks, I'm normally a match angler but have a 4 year old who can't sit still so have decided to venture into the world of lure! You've given me some great tips! Thanks!
I have watched a lot of your videos and it his been very helpful. I started on flies and this has helped me massively to broaden my fishing and in turn teach my kid. Thank you and keep it up.
I've loved this whole series on canal lure fishing. It's inspired me to take up this aspect of fishing having never done it before. I'd definitely agree; Shropshire union canal is shocking for Perch! Great for Jack pike.
thanks martin, that's how i see it too, if you go further down the canal into stoke on trent it's better for perch down that way but the northern end near chester isn't so good.
Cholmondeston at the start of the video were i caught a 41-6 mirror on August 23rd 2001at 3:30 AM.I think whatever i do fishing wise that will always be my greatest achievement angling wise.Still go back every 3 or so years and have a cup of tea at the spot were she was taken.Someone had a 43-9 common in 2004.Never really been able to work out why the carp grow so big in the Middlewich canal,but not in the main Shropshire Union line.Great vid Mark which has brought great memories back of 1 of the greatest days of my life.
nice one Christian, i think there are some biggies in the main line, i can remember being smashed up on the Shropshire union main line as far back as the late 1980's almost 30 years ago, they've been there for a very long time mate👍
Nice vid! I've discovered drop shot fishing over the last couple of months, and have mainly been catching perch and jacks by moving the rig along nearside canal weed growth, finding fish holding close to the edges or in weed bed gaps. I now see how to work the rest of the water, which I will try. Thanks for posting, really useful.
thanks mate, my canal has no weed and the fish get into the centre channel when there's no boat traffic and the water clears a little, if you have weed i'd carry on fishing around it, work the rest by all means but fish holding features rule👍
Yup thinking about it right now ! I am a fly fisher and have been for a good few years but local waters to Warrington are all about 45mins drive and either stocking is light or they have been pricked a few times and it seems to be getting harder to have a few pulls than it used to be . I used go spinning for pike 30 years ago but things appear to have moved on and with canals being local ( LYMM ) perhaps I think it may be worth the investment to supplement my fix 👍😂🎣 . The way you sat down and described the method was excellent and later I will be seeing if you have other videos ect .Thanks again for your kind efforts 👍
@@ronniebiggs4026 i'm a member of warrington aa Ronnie, I've not fished the bridgewater for many years but i'm looking at areas around lymm and grappenhall myself, i'm not sure i'll get there as I have other waters in my sights for this winter but it's handy for me to have the bridgey as an option again👍
Mark Carp .i will have to join around Dec but the canal ticket seems to be only £25 which is good and saves the Mither on the bank ( unless you suggest that the still waters allow spinning ect? You never know we may meet up on the bank and have a brew and a natter 👍🎣
yes the stillwaters do allow spinning, they have great track records for carp but i'm not sure how good the predator fishing is?. I've bumped into a few lure anglers on the Shropshire union so you never know, just for the record my fishing day is always Saturday from dinnertime onwards👍
thanks skipper👍 i have fly fished in the distant past but i have a torn tendon in my shoulder these days so it's not something i'll be able to do again unfortunately.
Hi Mark hope you are well . I have got the rod ,reel and a box of goodies now so not so far off 🎣 what size of hook is on your rig and also you mentioned a knot but for ease ( because I am used to it ) would a four~ Five turn water knot be ok on Braid? Cheers dude👍
hi Ronnie, the hook i'm using in this video is a size 6, for dropshot with small lures of 2" or less a 6 or an 8 is perfect mate👍 I personally wouldn't use a 5 turn water knot, in this dropshot video you've commented on i'm using a grinner knot on either side of the spinshot hook, if you don't have a spinshot just use a palomar knot instead, these are both tied with fluorocarbon and the fluoro is attached to the braid with a 'shock leader knot'. All the knots are on this channel mate, just bring up a list of all the videos and have a look for them👍
Great and thanks for your kind reply .I am ordering some spinshot hooks as now I have had a second view it makes perfect sense and the way forward ..By watching information like this and using the methods it means you don’t get into any bad habits ( like the water knot )Lol . Had a mooch around Lymm canal this morning just to suss out some spots but for me there was to many dog walkers and joggers so the hunt continues until I am geared up and in between Work ( boring ) and fly fishing 🎣🎣Thanks again dude.
I've another dropshot video currently in the planning stage Ronnie, it will be without the spinshot this time. From personal experience i'd say avoid the canal on Sunday's mate, it's gets very busy with all sorts of people down there, I find Saturday much quieter and weekdays are bliss with hardly anyone around. I don't know what brings them all out on sunday but it's a mare of a day to be out😉
Mark Carp And of course your right and perhaps I have been spoiled on private trout waters were you don’t get the public pissing about . Looking forward to a mooch out 🎣👍
i must admit i like those spinshot hooks jimbob, i use them all the time now. I'm not sure who's stretch this is?, it's all available on a day ticket anyway so i just fish it regardless, if i meet a bailiff i pay the day rate, if i don't it's free😁 so far I've never had to pay once😁 lol
hi dan, yes you can do dropshotting any time you want, in fact it's more a summer thing, because its warmer and the fish are more willing to chase a lure, you catch a lot more in summer than in winter, on average i'd say 3 to 4 times more fish in summer than in winter. It's only nutters like me that take it up when it's gone cold, trouble is there are carp, barbel and catfish to go for and I prefer them in summer👍 give it a go any time you want mate👍🎣
hi mustafa, the short answer is no, it's a specialist rig for predators like pike and perch. I know carp will chase fry now and again but it's not really a very good method for catching them. I've seen them caught on dropshot rigs but only on commercial fisheries which are overstocked and have far too many fish in them👍
you don't need to use the rig with fluoro at all Stephen, before fluoro came along it was mono like maxima or even a wire uptrace if you were dropshotting for pike. having used it both ways there's no way i'm going back to mono, the fluoro wins hands down, it gets you a lot more bites, you can use mono below the swivel if you want but I wouldn't expect to get as many bites as a full fluoro rig👍🎣
Mark Carp thank you for you time in answering my question it’s just I have trouble with the dropshot weight snapping the bottom line when moving it about
I know exactly what you mean Stephen, I've had the same problem myself, that's why I switched to the spinshot hook in the video because it's easier to change out without changing the whole rig. i'd still stick to fluoro though, if necessary you could use a higher breaking strain for the bottom section, the advantages of a line that's pretty much invisible to fish far outweigh having to do a re-tie now and again. it is a bit on the brittle side though, I just try and take care when moving the weight and try to get a few sessions out of it👍 the other thing you can do is tie up a few rigs ready and keep them in a wallet ready to use, that should help minimise the time it takes to change.
I thought the Spinshot hooks looked a bit gimmicky , but good to know that they work . Another really useful and entertaining video . Thanks Mark , this is rapidly becoming one of my favourite channels! 🙂👌
9:04 I started crying 🤣🤣🤣 I've watched many videos on jigging & dropshotting, & yours are by far the best - probably because you're a local guy (I'm in Stalybridge, Cheshire). Re' the VMC spinshot & Gunki Whiz you mention - please can you give me the heads up on where these can be bought? I've just bought a load of gear & am ready for my 1st outing this weekend. Upto now I've bought a Wychwood Agitator 0.5 > 7g, 9ib Daiwa x4 braid, 5ib fluorocarbon, and various Fox rage, savage gear, Berkley bloodworm, & keitech lures.
hi harry, ah yes, the special pink one😁 that lure will be featured in some future videos, you haven't seen the last of that one I promise😁 the gunki whiz is for sale on amazon, they ain't cheap though and it might be worth looking on ebay instead?, here's a link amzn.to/343zj2Y and here are the spinshot hooks amzn.to/31PAnWu Good luck mate, our north west canals aren't easy fishing by any means👍
@@MarkCarp Cheers for the heads up Mark. Aha, just found some of those exact Gunki whiz firetiger on Ebay just now in the UK so bought some. Will get the VMC off Amazon as per your link. Keep up the good work mate & tight lines.
cheers harry, yeah i thought you'd find them cheaper on ebay, when the postage is double the price of the lures you know something is wrong👍 cracking lure the gunki whiz, it's been very successful for me over the last couple of seasons👍
@@MarkCarp Sorry to mither again mate. I notice in one of your video's, you're using the HTO Rockfish rod. Now that a fair bit of time has elapsed, please can you tell me your thoughts on the rod? I'm looking at getting a few rods, and the HTO shows regularly on my searches.
hi harry, still got my hto rockfish, it's a nice little rod and yes i'd recommend it, I used it for a couple of winters and I've been very happy with it, the white tip shows bites really well, I've since upgraded to a more expensive/lighter rod courtesy of a mate who 'did me a favour' so mine is a standby/spare now. For the money you won't go wrong with a rockfish👍
Nice video mark, always learning! New sub here!! How do you find the Shropshire union canal? Recently acquired a ticket for Prince Albert Angling Society and they have a fair stretch on there?
cheers for the sub spyro, I find it hard work mate, the shoals of perch can be quite nomadic at times. yeah pa got a new stretch down near Nantwich somewhere, I haven't tried it yet but it's on my list of new areas to visit this winter👍
hi mate, I filmed this video on a stretch of canal not known for pike so I was happy with fluorocarbon but pike can be a problem, if your water has a lot of them i'd recommend using an up-trace, that's the section of line between the drop shot hook and your braided main line, just replace that section with a wire trace to be on the safe side👍
@@MarkCarp Thanks for the rapid response, this is all new to me as i usually just coarse fish. Not too sure about the pike but i heard there's zander present but i'd imagine i could get away with fluoro for them.
I've no zander in my neck of the woods, they simply haven't spread far enough north yet so I've no experience of fishing for them but yes, I reckon i'd be happy with fluorocarbon for them, I know a few lure anglers who catch them regularly and they use fluoro👍
I've heard people say that when you catch perch on the canal, you should keep them at the side in your landing net until you've milked the area dry, so the others don't get spooked. Do you find this to be the case?
yes that's true mate, i have another video on this channel called jig fishing for beginners and i do exactly that. perch are a shoal fish and if you're staying in the same area definitely put them in a landing net or keep net in the edge. its the same for all shoaling fish, bream, chub, roach etc, you'll catch more if you retain them in a keepnet👍
@@user-we9uy1nw6w you are catching and releasing them from/in the same area mate, that's why you hold them in the first place, because you'll be putting them straight back into the remaining shoal and spooking them, whoever told you that, you should stop listening to them😉
@@user-we9uy1nw6w that's entirely up to you mate, i'm not sure about 'perch especially', shoals do move now and again but in my experience they stay in the same place more often than not. i find the same shoals in the same swims every year, year after year as do my lure fishing mates, finding those swims is a major part of our tactics👍
I'm about to give dropshotting a go, are you less likely to catch pike with this method ? I've been fishing with shads for perch but am catching more pike ! Regards vic
hi mate, personally I think yes you'll catch less pike but it's no guarantee, I do still catch them even on the drops shot, I did notice I caught less of them when I moved away from the shads, try a crayfish or one of the worm type dropshot lures instead👍
not much in the way of similarity between a zig and the drop shot paul, apart from the fact that you fish your baits off the bottom, drop shot is quite unique, it allows you an awful lot of control when it comes to how close to the bottom you work the lure, you set the distance from the weight to the lure so you can keep it in a tight range, its a great rig for fishing round structures because you can slow your retrieve right down and literally leave the lure in the same place and just twitch it👍
yeah they work really well dave, i wasn't sure about them but when i got hold of them and saw just how small the swivel was i thought they'd be ok...and they have been, i can't see any difference between the spin shot hook and a conventional drop shot hook, they cost a lot more but they are really handy if you break the line moving your drop shot weight👍
no mate i can't say i have, I've used the fake soft plastic ones or the leeches that are in this vid but never the real thing, thanks for the tip, i'll be giving that one a try, i would imagine it would work well specially with the end of the worm nipped off to give a bit of extra attraction👍
I see a fair amount of anglers concerned about fish taking and not knowing they've gotten a bite with perch. The perch around my parts must be different because they snatch and run with it and immediately set themselves on the drop shot rig and you know they've taken the bait immediately. They also have a habit of taking the moment you hit the water or not at all.
I've had it all mate, taking on the drop, following a lure in and snatching it at the last second, on some days they've been so finicky you have to leave the lure static to get a bite and on others they'll be super aggressive and hit everything. one thing I've noticed if they are under pressure and have been fished for regularly, I seem to get a few bites very early in the session then it dies pretty quickly and it's time to move on. if I suspect a bite but i'm not sure I usually leave the lure static for 10 seconds or so before restarting the retrieve, sometimes they'll take it static, others they'll hit it when it starts moving again and sometimes they just won't entertain it👍😁
cheers chris/dave, i've had better results this winter but its been tough going, the colder than usual temps have meant I've struggled at times and this session was typical of my winter fishing in general, lots of effort for little reward!. It was just my luck i filmed this when the temps had plunged.
everyone i know has said the same, it's not been the best winter that's for sure, still, the beast from the east is leaving and it will soon start warming up👍
it certainly has some flexibility kev, i use the spin shot because it's nice and easy to set up but i also use the conventional drop shot rig and i can't tell the difference between them performance wise, they both work really well👍
cheers mate, not sure what it's like down your way but the fishing has been really hard this winter, i do all my films in one trip and i catch what i catch on the day and this vid is the norm for me, lots of fishing for not much reward, it's been the same for a few of my mates too, we all seem to be struggling to catch much this winter.
I find winter is hard in general.on my local river chelmer perch and bait fish are everywhere but come winter you really have to work to find them!! But on the pike water I'm fishing days are hit and miss as well they are ever hard on it or you can't buy a bite . Just gotta put the graft in mukka .
too true mate, i can live with the graft, sometimes it's just getting out and being there, i get quite ratty if i don't get a few hours in each week so the slow fishing doesn't put me off👍
thanks jon, a change is as good as a rest mate and a bit of lure fishing through the winter months breaks up the year, i'm chomping at the bit to get at those carp now though, the sooner the beast from the east clears off and the weather warms up the better👍
Mark you fish much to heavy now you drag youre droplead, you must feel the differens between bodem and bait. With all respect theres much to learn in the future. I fish much lighter UL after a few years dropshotting theres the fun even an Pikes depens on your light quality gear is awsome. And every knot is an weak link if you use thin lines for natural behavior if you want to use the light baits. To much slack and you dont feel anything keep in controle with youre reelhandle let the tip do the work ( tic youre tip and controle the braid with the reel My tip to you m8 it really works, the bait moves much faster the killer for Perch. Nice Quality video Mark and hope youre enjoy dropshotting its wunderfull to do and you dont need much to carry, my regard to you 😎
thanks Richard, yes i do tend to fish far too heavy and i'll be sorting that issue out in the future. It's funny you should say about the slack because I've already noticed i get more bites when i'm in tighter control, thanks for the input, it's much appreciated👍
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This video is part of the following article on Dropshotting for Perch, click the link to have a read. anglersdiary.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/dropshotting-for-perch.html drop shot leader and palomar knots are in the article and come up at the end of this vid.
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Just kitted myself out for jigging and drop shotting your vids have been brilliant thanks .
thanks ray, good luck mate, just be careful with those lures, there are so many different sizes, colours and lures you can end up spending a small fortune😂
Superb instructional video on dropshotting, thank you for sharing your knowledge.
thanks mate, it's not the easiest of methods to crack but it does work well👍
Hahah "if it was 6 inches long your misses would be buying one" brilliant! nice vid Mark.
ha ha, it's a good lure that one roger, ribbed for extra pleasure😁lol
Proper sound lad Mark is
Thnx again for the good explanation. Autumn and winter i will try this way of fishing.
thanks leo, we were locked down last winter due to covid so i missed doing any of this type of fishing last year, it's a good way to fish during the winter👍
@@MarkCarp i think in summier the fish is too active?
@@ldb0691 you catch more when they are active leo...but the carp and barbel are active too so it's their time, pike and perch are more active in the cold than carp are so they make a better target in winter, for me it's just making best use of your time👍
@@MarkCarp ok clear thanx
Brilliant tutorial, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and your skills.
thanks arfur, good luck mate👍
Really great vid, thanks, I'm normally a match angler but have a 4 year old who can't sit still so have decided to venture into the world of lure! You've given me some great tips! Thanks!
you're welcome gemma, tough job keeping a 4 year old occupied, you might end up more worn out than him👍😁
@@MarkCarp won't take much!!.... Lmao
@@gemmam8996 good luck gemma, i'm sure you'll cope with it, it's a good alternative to the seat box👍
I have watched a lot of your videos and it his been very helpful. I started on flies and this has helped me massively to broaden my fishing and in turn teach my kid. Thank you and keep it up.
thanks lewis, it's comments like yours I really appreciate and i'm made up it's helped you and your kid👍🎣😎
I've loved this whole series on canal lure fishing. It's inspired me to take up this aspect of fishing having never done it before. I'd definitely agree; Shropshire union canal is shocking for Perch! Great for Jack pike.
thanks martin, that's how i see it too, if you go further down the canal into stoke on trent it's better for perch down that way but the northern end near chester isn't so good.
Cheers Mark, this video has made things clear re drop shotting 👍
you're welcome paul, it can be a great method on the day, good luck mate, let us know how you get on👍
Cheers Mark, another informative video :)
thanks ivan👍
Cholmondeston at the start of the video were i caught a 41-6 mirror on August 23rd 2001at 3:30 AM.I think whatever i do fishing wise that will always be my greatest achievement angling wise.Still go back every 3 or so years and have a cup of tea at the spot were she was taken.Someone had a 43-9 common in 2004.Never really been able to work out why the carp grow so big in the Middlewich canal,but not in the main Shropshire Union line.Great vid Mark which has brought great memories back of 1 of the greatest days of my life.
nice one Christian, i think there are some biggies in the main line, i can remember being smashed up on the Shropshire union main line as far back as the late 1980's almost 30 years ago, they've been there for a very long time mate👍
Loving your videos . Really great info 😁👍👍
thanks mate👍
Nice vid! I've discovered drop shot fishing over the last couple of months, and have mainly been catching perch and jacks by moving the rig along nearside canal weed growth, finding fish holding close to the edges or in weed bed gaps. I now see how to work the rest of the water, which I will try. Thanks for posting, really useful.
thanks mate, my canal has no weed and the fish get into the centre channel when there's no boat traffic and the water clears a little, if you have weed i'd carry on fishing around it, work the rest by all means but fish holding features rule👍
Thanks for your in-depth explanation of this rig and methods ....nice little “Angry Perch”👍
cheers Ronnie, you're welcome mate, good luck if you're giving it a try👍🎣
Yup thinking about it right now ! I am a fly fisher and have been for a good few years but local waters to Warrington are all about 45mins drive and either stocking is light or they have been pricked a few times and it seems to be getting harder to have a few pulls than it used to be . I used go spinning for pike 30 years ago but things appear to have moved on and with canals being local ( LYMM ) perhaps I think it may be worth the investment to supplement my fix 👍😂🎣 . The way you sat down and described the method was excellent and later I will be seeing if you have other videos ect .Thanks again for your kind efforts 👍
@@ronniebiggs4026 i'm a member of warrington aa Ronnie, I've not fished the bridgewater for many years but i'm looking at areas around lymm and grappenhall myself, i'm not sure i'll get there as I have other waters in my sights for this winter but it's handy for me to have the bridgey as an option again👍
Mark Carp .i will have to join around Dec but the canal ticket seems to be only £25 which is good and saves the Mither on the bank ( unless you suggest that the still waters allow spinning ect? You never know we may meet up on the bank and have a brew and a natter 👍🎣
yes the stillwaters do allow spinning, they have great track records for carp but i'm not sure how good the predator fishing is?. I've bumped into a few lure anglers on the Shropshire union so you never know, just for the record my fishing day is always Saturday from dinnertime onwards👍
Mark great video I intended to start lure add drop shot fishing this winter. Could you use similar lures for jig fishing and drop shotting
yes you can david, some suit both methods and some don't, the paddle tail lures are perfect for both mate👍
Just discovered drop shotting - thanks for the video really helped with top tips. Do you ever fly fish??
thanks skipper👍 i have fly fished in the distant past but i have a torn tendon in my shoulder these days so it's not something i'll be able to do again unfortunately.
@@MarkCarp Ouch - thanks for getting back to me - look forward to seeing more videos keep up the good work.
@@proskipper1 thanks skipper👍
Hi Mark hope you are well . I have got the rod ,reel and a box of goodies now so not so far off 🎣 what size of hook is on your rig and also you mentioned a knot but for ease ( because I am used to it ) would a four~ Five turn water knot be ok on Braid? Cheers dude👍
hi Ronnie, the hook i'm using in this video is a size 6, for dropshot with small lures of 2" or less a 6 or an 8 is perfect mate👍 I personally wouldn't use a 5 turn water knot, in this dropshot video you've commented on i'm using a grinner knot on either side of the spinshot hook, if you don't have a spinshot just use a palomar knot instead, these are both tied with fluorocarbon and the fluoro is attached to the braid with a 'shock leader knot'. All the knots are on this channel mate, just bring up a list of all the videos and have a look for them👍
Great and thanks for your kind reply .I am ordering some spinshot hooks as now I have had a second view it makes perfect sense and the way forward ..By watching information like this and using the methods it means you don’t get into any bad habits ( like the water knot )Lol . Had a mooch around Lymm canal this morning just to suss out some spots but for me there was to many dog walkers and joggers so the hunt continues until I am geared up and in between Work ( boring ) and fly fishing 🎣🎣Thanks again dude.
I've another dropshot video currently in the planning stage Ronnie, it will be without the spinshot this time. From personal experience i'd say avoid the canal on Sunday's mate, it's gets very busy with all sorts of people down there, I find Saturday much quieter and weekdays are bliss with hardly anyone around. I don't know what brings them all out on sunday but it's a mare of a day to be out😉
Mark Carp And of course your right and perhaps I have been spoiled on private trout waters were you don’t get the public pissing about . Looking forward to a mooch out 🎣👍
yes mate, you've been spoilt, the further you go from civilisation the quieter the canal gets👍
Great vid Mark. Love the spinner hook as an alternative. Is this stretch part of Lymm angling?
i must admit i like those spinshot hooks jimbob, i use them all the time now. I'm not sure who's stretch this is?, it's all available on a day ticket anyway so i just fish it regardless, if i meet a bailiff i pay the day rate, if i don't it's free😁 so far I've never had to pay once😁 lol
Brilliant videos mate just wondered can you drop shot in the summer months
hi dan, yes you can do dropshotting any time you want, in fact it's more a summer thing, because its warmer and the fish are more willing to chase a lure, you catch a lot more in summer than in winter, on average i'd say 3 to 4 times more fish in summer than in winter. It's only nutters like me that take it up when it's gone cold, trouble is there are carp, barbel and catfish to go for and I prefer them in summer👍 give it a go any time you want mate👍🎣
@@MarkCarp
Cheers Mark thanks mate
@@DanT288 you're welcome dan, good luck mate👍🎣
can drop shot rig catch the carp fish if i used carp bait on it?
hi mustafa, the short answer is no, it's a specialist rig for predators like pike and perch. I know carp will chase fry now and again but it's not really a very good method for catching them. I've seen them caught on dropshot rigs but only on commercial fisheries which are overstocked and have far too many fish in them👍
Lovely vid 👌going to do some this winter.
cheers marc, good luck mate👍
Do you have to use fluro on the bottom swivel ?
you don't need to use the rig with fluoro at all Stephen, before fluoro came along it was mono like maxima or even a wire uptrace if you were dropshotting for pike. having used it both ways there's no way i'm going back to mono, the fluoro wins hands down, it gets you a lot more bites, you can use mono below the swivel if you want but I wouldn't expect to get as many bites as a full fluoro rig👍🎣
Mark Carp thank you for you time in answering my question it’s just I have trouble with the dropshot weight snapping the bottom line when moving it about
I know exactly what you mean Stephen, I've had the same problem myself, that's why I switched to the spinshot hook in the video because it's easier to change out without changing the whole rig. i'd still stick to fluoro though, if necessary you could use a higher breaking strain for the bottom section, the advantages of a line that's pretty much invisible to fish far outweigh having to do a re-tie now and again. it is a bit on the brittle side though, I just try and take care when moving the weight and try to get a few sessions out of it👍 the other thing you can do is tie up a few rigs ready and keep them in a wallet ready to use, that should help minimise the time it takes to change.
Mark Carp thank you for explaining this to me
you're welcome Stephen, good luck mate👍
I thought the Spinshot hooks looked a bit gimmicky , but good to know that they work . Another really useful and entertaining video . Thanks Mark , this is rapidly becoming one of my favourite channels! 🙂👌
definitely not a gimmick stu, i like them myself👍 thanks for the kind words mate👍
Great instructional video thank you for posting it
thanks Robert, I really appreciate that, good luck mate, I hope you bag a few👍
9:04 I started crying 🤣🤣🤣
I've watched many videos on jigging & dropshotting, & yours are by far the best - probably because you're a local guy (I'm in Stalybridge, Cheshire).
Re' the VMC spinshot & Gunki Whiz you mention - please can you give me the heads up on where these can be bought?
I've just bought a load of gear & am ready for my 1st outing this weekend. Upto now I've bought a Wychwood Agitator 0.5 > 7g, 9ib Daiwa x4 braid, 5ib fluorocarbon, and various Fox rage, savage gear, Berkley bloodworm, & keitech lures.
hi harry, ah yes, the special pink one😁 that lure will be featured in some future videos, you haven't seen the last of that one I promise😁 the gunki whiz is for sale on amazon, they ain't cheap though and it might be worth looking on ebay instead?, here's a link amzn.to/343zj2Y and here are the spinshot hooks amzn.to/31PAnWu Good luck mate, our north west canals aren't easy fishing by any means👍
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Cheers for the heads up Mark.
Aha, just found some of those exact Gunki whiz firetiger on Ebay just now in the UK so bought some.
Will get the VMC off Amazon as per your link.
Keep up the good work mate & tight lines.
cheers harry, yeah i thought you'd find them cheaper on ebay, when the postage is double the price of the lures you know something is wrong👍 cracking lure the gunki whiz, it's been very successful for me over the last couple of seasons👍
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Sorry to mither again mate.
I notice in one of your video's, you're using the HTO Rockfish rod.
Now that a fair bit of time has elapsed, please can you tell me your thoughts on the rod?
I'm looking at getting a few rods, and the HTO shows regularly on my searches.
hi harry, still got my hto rockfish, it's a nice little rod and yes i'd recommend it, I used it for a couple of winters and I've been very happy with it, the white tip shows bites really well, I've since upgraded to a more expensive/lighter rod courtesy of a mate who 'did me a favour' so mine is a standby/spare now. For the money you won't go wrong with a rockfish👍
Nice video mark, always learning! New sub here!! How do you find the Shropshire union canal? Recently acquired a ticket for Prince Albert Angling Society and they have a fair stretch on there?
cheers for the sub spyro, I find it hard work mate, the shoals of perch can be quite nomadic at times. yeah pa got a new stretch down near Nantwich somewhere, I haven't tried it yet but it's on my list of new areas to visit this winter👍
@@MarkCarp Appreciate the reply mate, its one to try I guess, can't catch them at home
yeah it is one to try, I think we got the maps for it a few weeks back, i'll dig mine out and find out where it is👍
Hello, do you find pike a problem when dropshotting, or is the fluorocarbon fine?
hi mate, I filmed this video on a stretch of canal not known for pike so I was happy with fluorocarbon but pike can be a problem, if your water has a lot of them i'd recommend using an up-trace, that's the section of line between the drop shot hook and your braided main line, just replace that section with a wire trace to be on the safe side👍
@@MarkCarp Thanks for the rapid response, this is all new to me as i usually just coarse fish. Not too sure about the pike but i heard there's zander present but i'd imagine i could get away with fluoro for them.
I've no zander in my neck of the woods, they simply haven't spread far enough north yet so I've no experience of fishing for them but yes, I reckon i'd be happy with fluorocarbon for them, I know a few lure anglers who catch them regularly and they use fluoro👍
Whats the best size drop shot hook to use for perch mate
I like a size 6 myself Andrew, that's the size I use for most of my dropshotting👍
I've heard people say that when you catch perch on the canal, you should keep them at the side in your landing net until you've milked the area dry, so the others don't get spooked. Do you find this to be the case?
yes that's true mate, i have another video on this channel called jig fishing for beginners and i do exactly that. perch are a shoal fish and if you're staying in the same area definitely put them in a landing net or keep net in the edge. its the same for all shoaling fish, bream, chub, roach etc, you'll catch more if you retain them in a keepnet👍
I've heard that's extremely damaging to the fish because they can have trouble finding their shoal again
@@user-we9uy1nw6w you are catching and releasing them from/in the same area mate, that's why you hold them in the first place, because you'll be putting them straight back into the remaining shoal and spooking them, whoever told you that, you should stop listening to them😉
@@MarkCarp shoals move, perch especially! I’d rather catch a couple less perch than run the risk damaging the shoal it self.
@@user-we9uy1nw6w that's entirely up to you mate, i'm not sure about 'perch especially', shoals do move now and again but in my experience they stay in the same place more often than not. i find the same shoals in the same swims every year, year after year as do my lure fishing mates, finding those swims is a major part of our tactics👍
I'm about to give dropshotting a go, are you less likely to catch pike with this method ? I've been fishing with shads for perch but am catching more pike ! Regards vic
hi mate, personally I think yes you'll catch less pike but it's no guarantee, I do still catch them even on the drops shot, I did notice I caught less of them when I moved away from the shads, try a crayfish or one of the worm type dropshot lures instead👍
Being new to this as I said in one of your previous blogs the drop shot is similar to a zig rig in carping yeh ?.
not much in the way of similarity between a zig and the drop shot paul, apart from the fact that you fish your baits off the bottom, drop shot is quite unique, it allows you an awful lot of control when it comes to how close to the bottom you work the lure, you set the distance from the weight to the lure so you can keep it in a tight range, its a great rig for fishing round structures because you can slow your retrieve right down and literally leave the lure in the same place and just twitch it👍
@@MarkCarp Cheers for that Mark.
Nice to meet you at NAS yesterday. I was with Jon Tosh.
ditto mate, thanks for making yourself known, I've subbed back and i'll go and have a looksee at your channel now👍
Great video, cheers pal
thanks stu👍
Spin shot hook fantastic idea
yeah they work really well dave, i wasn't sure about them but when i got hold of them and saw just how small the swivel was i thought they'd be ok...and they have been, i can't see any difference between the spin shot hook and a conventional drop shot hook, they cost a lot more but they are really handy if you break the line moving your drop shot weight👍
I don't understand something when you're fishing or perch you cach pike and when you ho pike fishing you cach perch
that's called sods law luke😁
What size line do you use. (lb)
hi Ashley, in this video i'm using 10lb braid and 10lb fluorocarbon 😉
great dropshot video mate.
have you ever tried putting a real worm on when you are struggling? sometimes saves the blank for me
no mate i can't say i have, I've used the fake soft plastic ones or the leeches that are in this vid but never the real thing, thanks for the tip, i'll be giving that one a try, i would imagine it would work well specially with the end of the worm nipped off to give a bit of extra attraction👍
Another great vid.
thanks mate, really appreciate the feedback👍
check out my amazon lure fishing list > www.amazon.co.uk/shop/markcarp?listId=36GJPKBJIBTOZ
i dont think ive ever seen an angrier perch than that first one
i've seen plenty of angry perch phil, it's mostly the small ones👍
Nice video mark keep them coming pal
cheers mate, glad to have you watching👍
Thanks for a usefull vid mate.
you're welcome mate👍
Top vid!
thanks charlie👍
I see a fair amount of anglers concerned about fish taking and not knowing they've gotten a bite with perch. The perch around my parts must be different because they snatch and run with it and immediately set themselves on the drop shot rig and you know they've taken the bait immediately. They also have a habit of taking the moment you hit the water or not at all.
I've had it all mate, taking on the drop, following a lure in and snatching it at the last second, on some days they've been so finicky you have to leave the lure static to get a bite and on others they'll be super aggressive and hit everything. one thing I've noticed if they are under pressure and have been fished for regularly, I seem to get a few bites very early in the session then it dies pretty quickly and it's time to move on. if I suspect a bite but i'm not sure I usually leave the lure static for 10 seconds or so before restarting the retrieve, sometimes they'll take it static, others they'll hit it when it starts moving again and sometimes they just won't entertain it👍😁
another superb video mate 🖒🖒🖒
cheers chris/dave, i've had better results this winter but its been tough going, the colder than usual temps have meant I've struggled at times and this session was typical of my winter fishing in general, lots of effort for little reward!. It was just my luck i filmed this when the temps had plunged.
Mark Carp still great to be out mate... we have been struggling too in these ever changing conditions 🖒🖒
everyone i know has said the same, it's not been the best winter that's for sure, still, the beast from the east is leaving and it will soon start warming up👍
IS THAT MACC CANAL MATE
no crafty its the northern end of Shropshire union canal, not far from chester mate👍
spin shot makes your hooks flexible easier to swallow
it certainly has some flexibility kev, i use the spin shot because it's nice and easy to set up but i also use the conventional drop shot rig and i can't tell the difference between them performance wise, they both work really well👍
Nice one matey
cheers mate, not sure what it's like down your way but the fishing has been really hard this winter, i do all my films in one trip and i catch what i catch on the day and this vid is the norm for me, lots of fishing for not much reward, it's been the same for a few of my mates too, we all seem to be struggling to catch much this winter.
I find winter is hard in general.on my local river chelmer perch and bait fish are everywhere but come winter you really have to work to find them!! But on the pike water I'm fishing days are hit and miss as well they are ever hard on it or you can't buy a bite . Just gotta put the graft in mukka .
too true mate, i can live with the graft, sometimes it's just getting out and being there, i get quite ratty if i don't get a few hours in each week so the slow fishing doesn't put me off👍
Brilliant informative vblog 👍
thanks jon, a change is as good as a rest mate and a bit of lure fishing through the winter months breaks up the year, i'm chomping at the bit to get at those carp now though, the sooner the beast from the east clears off and the weather warms up the better👍
I think if you slow the retrieve a bit , you'll have better luck.
absolutely dave👍
Damn you can’t find these lures anywhere only ebay
try this place nick, most of the lures in this video came from here👍 www.agmdiscountfishing.co.uk/
Oh.... And the pink worm would have to be at least 8 inches for someone's Mrs to buy it! 😂😂😂
it is a perfect miniature though gemma😁😂
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Mark you fish much to heavy now you drag youre droplead, you must feel the differens between bodem and bait. With all respect theres much to learn in the future. I fish much lighter UL after a few years dropshotting theres the fun even an Pikes depens on your light quality gear is awsome. And every knot is an weak link if you use thin lines for natural behavior if you want to use the light baits.
To much slack and you dont feel anything keep in controle with youre reelhandle let the tip do the work ( tic youre tip and controle the braid with the reel My tip to you m8 it really works, the bait moves much faster the killer for Perch.
Nice Quality video Mark and hope youre enjoy dropshotting its wunderfull to do and you dont need much to carry, my regard to you 😎
thanks Richard, yes i do tend to fish far too heavy and i'll be sorting that issue out in the future. It's funny you should say about the slack because I've already noticed i get more bites when i'm in tighter control, thanks for the input, it's much appreciated👍
What's your instagram Mark?
username is 'markernw' macca, you can either look me up or if you go to my TH-cam homepage there are a few links in the top right corner, google+, twitter, facebook and instagram👍
Mark Carp done 👍🏻 mines peter_mc_fishing 👌🏻
cheers peter, followed you back mate along with a few other lads, i'll have a little nosey on there later👍
i look more like "spin-shooting to me"