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  • @blackpaperbold
    @blackpaperbold 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +527

    People start screaming that 8GB is not enough, I love that.

    • @GrandSenator
      @GrandSenator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that way they gonna prove the US government right that apple are monopolizing their products lol

    • @MrQuay03
      @MrQuay03 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Most none-engineering/CS students, web surfers, watch youtube people would be fine with 8GB.
      People in this comment section are tech enthusiasts and are like what, ~5% of the general population at most
      I'm sure Apple will finally do 16GB as soon as Snapdragon X Elite get affordable

    • @EnderRobber101
      @EnderRobber101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@MrQuay03 For computer science and machine learning. Ram is key

    • @GamingwithBuddy
      @GamingwithBuddy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EnderRobber101 gpu too

    • @josuastangl7140
      @josuastangl7140 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      If you like more than 5 tabs in your browser…
      8GB is not enough

  • @TheGhostInTheWires
    @TheGhostInTheWires 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

    They've been configuring their base model laptops with 8GB of RAM since 2012! That is insane. The fact that they put 8GB in an M3 MacBook "Pro" is criminal. They're bottlenecking an amazing chip by skimping on one of the cheapest components in the laptop. All so they can force people to pay their extortion prices on upgrades. The MacBook Pros should be running 24GB now at least. I love my 16" M1 Pro, but some of the stuff Apple does is so blatantly anti-consumer that it is insulting.

    • @legendrose6828
      @legendrose6828 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brother i'm buying the M3 Pro 8GB 512GB Varient and it cost me $ 1722
      Should I go for it ?
      my passion is to develop android apps and IOS apps, please help

    • @mohsin_07
      @mohsin_07 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@legendrose6828 don't 8 GB ram in a pro model is crime ..... just spend more money (if you can ) and get the 16 GB model (at least 16 GB ) and if you don't have the budget then just get the AIR with 512 SSD and 16 GB RAM , it will do enough for you .... ALSO IT DEPENDS IF YOU ARE A Professional or just a beginner in APP DEVELOPMENT, If you are a beginner then M3 AIR is just fine for you BUT, if you are a professional then definitely get the PRO MODEL with at-least 512 SSD and 16GB RAM

    • @legendrose6828
      @legendrose6828 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mohsin_07 ok brother

    • @wannafedor4
      @wannafedor4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@legendrose6828 I’m running 8gb on my M2 mini using Xcode, docker, Safari, Minecraft, and some iOS simulators and it is perfectly stable. Never have gotten a popup for memory before.

    • @user-if8tg1or7m
      @user-if8tg1or7m หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@legendrose6828 Or just get a Windows machine if you develop games.

  • @benchoflemons398
    @benchoflemons398 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +197

    It’s 8GB SHARED! it’s insane, even 16 is pathetic on a “pro” product

    • @MrQuay03
      @MrQuay03 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Then get 32GB, Apple is not stopping you

    • @benchoflemons398
      @benchoflemons398 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      @@MrQuay03 If a product is trash, then mentioning an upgraded version of said product does not excuse the product being trash

    • @MrQuay03
      @MrQuay03 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@benchoflemons398 idk why you guys complain? Apple give people an affordable version of their products. More choices are better.
      You guys would rather Apple sell all their laptops 16GB based and $200 more by default?

    • @LouisDuran
      @LouisDuran 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      ​@@MrQuay03yes Apple sort of is stopping you by charging $400 for 24gb when we all know those parts are maybe $40-$50.

    • @LouisDuran
      @LouisDuran 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      ​@@MrQuay03LOL affordable version.. 😅😅😅

  • @HuyenTran-pk5yr
    @HuyenTran-pk5yr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    8 GB is said to be enough, but 8GB is 8GB, and it cannot hold 16GB of data

  • @TechGameDev
    @TechGameDev 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

    the guy is going to go around the world to say what to think of the mac with 8 GB of ram😂

    • @rolasleyva8602
      @rolasleyva8602 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      well, he's right at least.

  • @jacobmars1902
    @jacobmars1902 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    my 4GB laptop running steam, discord, Door kickers 2 and Firefox with 5 tabs on ubuntu: “Pathetic”

    • @imop285
      @imop285 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I feel sad for Windows and Mac users 😂😂.

    • @0bsmith0
      @0bsmith0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lots of swapping. It is pathetic.

    • @jacobmars1902
      @jacobmars1902 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@0bsmith0 you’ve obviously never done it then

    • @0bsmith0
      @0bsmith0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jacobmars1902 Of course, because I know better. I'm not stupid.

    • @beanmasterz
      @beanmasterz 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I'm sorry for your disability

  • @Caoimhin777
    @Caoimhin777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Love these shorts roasting the base storage & ram specs. Reviewers like yourself definitely need to pressure Apple to improve their base models

  • @user-ct9st4nn3d
    @user-ct9st4nn3d 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    6 GB just to turn it on? AZisk's own 8GB video showed and explained that this isn't true; not only is it only 4.xx, about half of that is "held" memory that can be given back if a user process needs it. Not to say that stock Apple builds shouldn't have more than 8GB, but let's not lie when we don't have to.

  • @gameguru7673
    @gameguru7673 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    There is Apple Math involved in RAM, Sam Tucker from Apple explained it 😂😂

  • @tripleaGD_
    @tripleaGD_ 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    imagine your operating system using all your ram

  • @akin242002
    @akin242002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    12GB would be fine for the Air as the minimum.
    16GB for anything "Pro". Preferably 24-32GB for "Pro" laptops.

    • @seederorg2489
      @seederorg2489 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Oh no, why so much?
      10.5 will be enough, no?

    • @akin242002
      @akin242002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@seederorg2489 No. 12GB for non-professional use minimum.

    • @seederorg2489
      @seederorg2489 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@akin242002 do you realise how dumb you sound.

    • @pepehimovic3135
      @pepehimovic3135 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Excuse me, “Preferably 24-32”?!!! Is that just you or every Mac user? 🤯

    • @tejassharma8569
      @tejassharma8569 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@pepehimovic3135 For a "Pro" laptop considering that the RAM spec is shared between the CPU, GPU and the NPU (sleeping, waiting to get awakened by macOS 15 AI Siri update), yes. 24 GB should be the minimum.

  • @Sestaak
    @Sestaak 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    MacOS usually eats around 2-2.5GB of memory, though it does populate spare memory with cached data so after a fresh boot you'll be sitting at around 6GB of memory used.

  • @hectorrivera2785
    @hectorrivera2785 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    8 GB for Lightroom+ Photoshop or After Effects + Premiere??? No.

  • @sphexie
    @sphexie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    this speaks a lot about max tech and what they understand about computers. it’s not true that macos require 5-6 gb just when turned on. they can’t even understand that out of these 5 gb, more than 2 is cache, which will be cleared if the system thinks other user facing processes might need the memory. But yes, 16 gb for a 1.2k machine should be the base.

    • @adriancoanda9227
      @adriancoanda9227 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually, 32 gb ram as the igpu vram is shared from the actual ram

  • @totaldomination247
    @totaldomination247 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    8gb is not acceptable in 2020 not 2024

    • @iagomorandi6543
      @iagomorandi6543 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      M2 should get 16gb as base version, and also 256gb ssd is pathetic too

  • @Oxymand1as
    @Oxymand1as หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’ve a 16GB Mac Mini and a 8GB IMac both M1.
    They both work brilliantly. However I only use them for surfing, email and document editing and a lot of SSH remote terminals.
    I’m completely satisfied with the 8GB iMac and it’s a 4.5k display.
    The Mac Mini is overspeced and rarely uses more than 8GB. ;-)

    • @tempeleng
      @tempeleng 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      On an M1 MBA with only 8GB belonging to my wife, I notice the swap being used aggressively. Since the SSD isn't user replaceable I always remind her to keep opened tabs and apps to a minimum.
      Last I checked months ago smartctl reported around 1TB written to the drive. As a casual user (browsing news, social media, etc) I feel 1TB seems excessive seeing as she's only had the MBA for 2 years.
      Other than worrying about SSD health, it's been a very satisfying experience.

  • @nakedeye44
    @nakedeye44 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    And here I am using a window 10 2 in 1 with 2 gb of ram 😅

  • @benjaminfphillips
    @benjaminfphillips 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    6g just for windows.. no way.. not a chance! Plus people fail to understand how memory works, especially in macos.

  • @jobo_o
    @jobo_o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I would say 8gb is enough for the daily consumer as unified ram is much more efficient than the traditional RAM we are used to. 16gb of unified RAM would be recommended for heavy multitasking and video or photo editing, in my opinion.

    • @isaacthakur7780
      @isaacthakur7780 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jobo_o I get that 8gb is enough for daily use, but even the MBAs are very costly compared to counterparts, honestly if they were a bit cheaper and the upgrade costs were better, it would be a great deal, but not everyone has got such money to buy a single purpose machine, while you can do more things on a windows machine for much lesser cost.

  • @mikesmith1290
    @mikesmith1290 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You have to look at when swap space starts kicking in with your particular use case. My base M1 mini does pretty good with somewhat large Logic Pro projects. Swap only really kicks in when I fire up superior Drummer 3, and that quickly ramps up the swap to 8GBs. I’m definitely going to get a Mac Studio with 32 gigs when the M4 comes out. For me, even 16 gigs isn’t enough to avoid swap.

  • @LukaLaKuka
    @LukaLaKuka 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would u recommend 24Gb for a M3 Air?

  • @monk3y206
    @monk3y206 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    as someone who's left winblows for almost a decade and never used a mac before, hearing they require 6GB just for OS is insane, wow

    • @RealHomeboy
      @RealHomeboy หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      They don’t, the OS just starts loading in data closer to the CPU to cache stuff.
      MacOS doesn’t need 6GB to run. They lie

  • @BhaveshTembhurkar-ud6oc
    @BhaveshTembhurkar-ud6oc หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Who's watching this after buying 8GB mac😅

    • @aeriskabkr1110
      @aeriskabkr1110 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      only fanboys and fangirls iSheeps buy it, who doesn't care about the performance of the laptop and doesn't care if it's overprice

    • @joshdax2
      @joshdax2 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Right here. Lol im pissed. Should’ve have gotten 16gb

    • @daq-ua
      @daq-ua 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@aeriskabkr1110 or the fact that they use macbooks for video editing, etc which windows laptops are shit at

    • @aeriskabkr1110
      @aeriskabkr1110 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @daq01lampa stay away from the comment section before you get embarrassed. Do you have any idea how many MacBook users compared to windows users.. in my company we don't use MacBook for video editing it's not worth the price, enjoy your 8GB mac

    • @BhaveshTembhurkar-ud6oc
      @BhaveshTembhurkar-ud6oc 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@aeriskabkr1110 Before MacBook i used to use a Windows laptop for editing, programming etc but it was very laggy and the performance are worst and the battery backup eww, i don't care about brand i only care about the true value product and this is true i have 8GB ram mac but it is very nice qs compared to my old 16GB winodws dell laptop , i do everything on my mac whether it is editing or playing games or anything it never disspointed

  • @AbidAli-bo8sv
    @AbidAli-bo8sv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    8GB is perfectly fine for most Apple buyers, because the most they would do is to watch TH-cam, Netflix and browse through photos and most importantly showing-off Apple logo at Starbucks.

    • @Excited_Cameleon
      @Excited_Cameleon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And this group of people are usually the ones that don't even earn that much, lmao

    • @GreatTaiwan
      @GreatTaiwan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Excited_Cameleon or ones who actually got a lot of money (from money and daddy that is)

    • @brennenbridges3474
      @brennenbridges3474 หลายเดือนก่อน

      8GB is perfectly fine for me. Currently enrolled in law school and use the base MacBook Air. The machine is plenty fast enough for my tasks, and even some gaming using crossover works just fine. I manage 30fps no issues.

    • @user-if8tg1or7m
      @user-if8tg1or7m หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brennenbridges3474 30fps? PATHETIC.

    • @Thimira_Ayodya
      @Thimira_Ayodya หลายเดือนก่อน

      If anyone uses macbook air m2 please tell me does netflix play on 4k on safari or is it capped at 1080p

  • @VGamingJunkieVT
    @VGamingJunkieVT 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Relying on Virtual Memory with an SSD isn't good. Even with newer SSD's, they have a limit to how many times they can be written to and constantly using it as emergency RAM is going to ensure it dies much faster.

  • @lucasevans4690
    @lucasevans4690 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have an m1 MacBook air with only 8gb and it runs perfectly fine. If you are not a power user you won't have a problem.
    The problem with a lot of TH-camr reviews of laptops is that they are all video editors and think everyone else is. Average person needs something to browse the web and do spreadsheets.

  • @Iesous27
    @Iesous27 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe someone can answer my question: will an 8gb m1 MacBook Air be suitable for audio recording with reaper and light video editing with DaVinci resolve?

  • @dayanch_nurnazaruli
    @dayanch_nurnazaruli 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @Nathan15038
    @Nathan15038 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yep as an Apple fan boy I do like to test drive a lot of Apple products a lot of them I do end up keeping but the thing that I haven’t kept recently was my M2 MacBook Air well actually two of them. The first one was because it was the cheapest model with 8GB RAM it was basically horrible in my opinion. Then the second one was a 15 inch MacBook Air M2 that I expected out to the highest amount of RAM and 2TB of storage I loved it, but the only thing was the new MacBook Pro just came out with the M3 chip and I ended up buying that instead. And don’t worry I also suspect that out to total came out to about $5500+ I basically over future proof that because like my older Macs this one will probably last me for 10 years. I went with the 16in highest M3 Max chip with 40 core GPU, 128GB of RAM, and the 2TB storage. I did that much ram mainly because I want to match the amount of ram in my main windows PC system right now. Also if you look at it with the other Apple products I own a $5500 Mac book wouldn’t really be surprising also Apples free financing is the best. And yes I personally enjoy it and believe it was well worth it because I have so much of the Apple ecosystem that this laptop works great for every day use and vacation.😊

  • @lavglidesgh6266
    @lavglidesgh6266 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Video below where

  • @parjau4554
    @parjau4554 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've got the M1 Air with 8GB. Not quite 2x Windows but at least 1.5x.
    The 16GB probably is 2x.

  • @wannafedor4
    @wannafedor4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Using Xcode, Safari, CarPlay Simulator, UTM, and running some docker stuff never felt more stable on my M2 8GiB Mac mini.

    • @50V0N
      @50V0N 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Okay bro 😂

    • @Weaselszone
      @Weaselszone 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Except the majority doesn't agree with you with less workload. Also your poor SSD.

    • @Weaselszone
      @Weaselszone 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Except the majority doesn't agree with you with less workload. Also your poor SSD.

    • @wannafedor4
      @wannafedor4 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Weaselszone My usual computer-workspace involves me having Project IDX, Android Studio, and forgetting to close my Minecraft server and Xcode, all while running my Project IDX code in a Linux VM running Fedora 40 Workstation.

    • @claudius8166
      @claudius8166 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@wannafedor4 glad to hear that, im about to buy an m1 8gb and kinda worried if im gonna be able to do some programming. Could you tell me if is possible to run android studio + one emulator + couple of pages on chrome (not too much, just something like 5 to 6 open tabs)?

  • @AhmedSh-nc6lj
    @AhmedSh-nc6lj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I will never ever buy a +1000$ laptop with ONLY 8 fkin GIGABYTES of RAM

  • @Carlos_Lenz
    @Carlos_Lenz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Please keep thrashing Apple and hopefully next gen they won’t try to pull out the same bs.

    • @MrQuay03
      @MrQuay03 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yet they sell 8GB version like hot cakes

    • @TheGhostInTheWires
      @TheGhostInTheWires 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MrQuay03 Mostly to people who know nothing about computers and just assume since its new that it will be enough. In some cases thats true, but it's going to damage their image more in the long run when Grandma doesn't want to buy another Mac because it became unusable after two years as applications continue to become more resource intensive. Especially with the current trend of "lets shove AI in it" and process as much as possible of it on edge inference (which is Apple's plan for their AI endeavors, and that requires a lot of RAM since Apple uses unified memory that is shared with the GPU.)

    • @Carlos_Lenz
      @Carlos_Lenz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MrQuay03 I agree there’s a market for that price point but specially the entry-level MB pro with 8 GB is inexcusable IMO. It only exists with 8 GB to justify upgrade options for the Airs. And once you upgrade it to 16 GB it’s hard not to go for the true MB Pro. This whole thing makes no sense and inevitably Apple will eventually revisit those tiers and drop some options, simplifying manufacturing and being more consumer friendly.

    • @MrQuay03
      @MrQuay03 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Carlos_Lenz idk what you guys are using these with. The majority of people surf the web, stream videos, view documents, occasionally imovie, coding, Apple Arcade games. There is virtually no speed difference between 8GB and 16GB.
      People want fast, reliable, efficient machine like Macbook M1, you can put them to sleep for days without draining the battery, great screen, great sound, good keyboard.
      Of course, get the 16GB if you are heavy users.

    • @0bsmith0
      @0bsmith0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, they sell to people that don't have a clue. The Apple stereotype.

  • @LouisDuran
    @LouisDuran 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    8gb wouldn't be so bad... Some people who just use a browser and email and maybe some single tasking office apps. 8 GB might be ok. But to charge another $200 for the large number of people who need 16gb when we all know those memory chips are $20 is criminal. One of the main reasons I will never own another Mac

    • @NotZawie
      @NotZawie 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Im trying to produce music with 10 tabs open on 8gbs of ram it sucks

  • @daurenofficial
    @daurenofficial หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I only use office applications, wouldn't 8gb be enough?

    • @alejob54
      @alejob54 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. You should be fine

  • @ffmde8268
    @ffmde8268 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just ordered the m3 pro 14 inch 18gb 512gb for adobe creative cloud and figma i assume this will be enough cuz mostly from adobe i use only photoshop
    So photoshop, Figma, Web browsing and mostly not very larg files
    This is the first time i will professionaly try a macbook because im a windows user
    And i hope those specs are fine and will not dissapoint me

  • @prajwal_ku
    @prajwal_ku หลายเดือนก่อน

    is the MacBook Air M3 15" 16 and 256 GB enough for Deep Learning tasks? I'm an AI grad student and looking for a new laptop. Or is it worth upgrading to Pro M3? Pro M3 doesn't offer a significant performance boost over 15" Air.

    • @hosseinsalimi3228
      @hosseinsalimi3228 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In my opinion go for an M3 pro with 18GB RAM or more because, in extreme Deep learning tasks, you will need a powerful graphic card unless buying a Google Colab subscription for GPU-related tasks. However, regardless of model, RAM has to be at least 16.

  • @anantakrishna4462
    @anantakrishna4462 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8 GB is fine for businesses who want their employees to focus on their work rather than 20 browser tabs. Or for students who can't afford more and should be writing their assignments. For everyone else it sucks.

  • @HelloThere...
    @HelloThere... 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Okay. But guys… while it’s true that 8GB is a joke these days, he clearly doesn’t understand how RAM or unified memory works. Unused RAM is wasted ram. For instance, if a device with 32GB of unified memory or RAM were to boot up the same OS on the other device using 6GB idle, it would use about 20GB, probably-not 6. Devices are made by smart people, and they know that ram is better put to use by using it and not just sitting there. So, yes, it’s too little, but no, that’s not how this works!

  • @50Steaks68
    @50Steaks68 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes it only has 8 gigs, but for large projects it’ll use SSD instead of RAM once it fills up. So it’s not really as bad as they’re saying it is

    • @user-qe6in7yt2l
      @user-qe6in7yt2l หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah until your ssd dies cause its being used as ram. An ssd should not be used as a ram replacement or excuse for less ram

    • @50Steaks68
      @50Steaks68 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-qe6in7yt2l fair but for lighter users that won’t really be a big issue, this is why you upgrade to 16 gigs if you know you’ll need it

    • @50Steaks68
      @50Steaks68 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s not like snapdragon is really able to stack up against Apple yet anyways. Windows arm is too new to be actual competition and the battery life is worse and there’s a fan

    • @-Blue-_
      @-Blue-_ 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@50Steaks68 in mobile they are already ahead of apple in multicore and GPU performance but isheeps like you are unable to see this

    • @50Steaks68
      @50Steaks68 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@-Blue-_ that’s true, but in day to day use apple silicon is just way WAY more efficient

  • @ivancabrera3289
    @ivancabrera3289 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My laptop has windows 11 on it and it came with 4gb of ram I had to get a second ram stick of 8gb to get it to run smoothly but sometimes it's stills slows dow I have an HP though

  • @favour9189
    @favour9189 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Apple math

  • @ochiorbus
    @ochiorbus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    But then why there are reviewers editing videos on 8gb base models?

    • @hermanwooster8944
      @hermanwooster8944 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They can do it. It just takes longer to do certain tasks than the 16GB version. Sometimes 50% longer.

    • @ochiorbus
      @ochiorbus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hermanwooster8944 because its swapping memory or why?

    • @hermanwooster8944
      @hermanwooster8944 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@ochiorbus Yes. There's not enough RAM so the SSD has to do double duty acting as additional RAM. Not only is it slower, but you're writing more to the SSD. Generally the SSD can handle hundreds of terabytes of writing to the drive, but if you plan on using the laptop for 10 years as its doing all of these swaps, there's a chance you could actually use up your drive, and it's not easy to replace an SSD in a Mac because its soldered to the board.

  • @teamredstudio7012
    @teamredstudio7012 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    8GB is fine for both Windows and Mac OS. Even 4GB is usable. People are just spoiled. The OS only uses extra RAM on idle if it's available for caching files and stuff. On Mac OS this is wired memory from closed applications. That memory is freed when necessary and in worst case you get paging. 8GB is fine.

  • @aeriskabkr1110
    @aeriskabkr1110 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    TRUTH really hurts for iSheeps,, go on and keep defending your favorite brand

  • @AyyanarLost
    @AyyanarLost 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People giving overprice for a laptop because of its brand value. The brand value :lying

  • @sharonb.9128
    @sharonb.9128 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    “I tested it!”…but not really. When I tested 16gb of Mac RAM against 32 of Windows “THE PERFORMANCE WAS PRETTY GOOD!” Test Apple base models against Windows machines. If the Elite chips are as good as predicted and give real competition, Apple WILL increase RAM. Business is business.

    • @akin242002
      @akin242002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also, factor in DDR4, DDR5, and high-end DDR5 Windows RAM. High-end DDR5 would be 7600 mhz.
      DDR4 Windows RAM is half the speed of any M2/M3 chip.

    • @lunawense6288
      @lunawense6288 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@akin242002This isn't quite accurate though. Windows has DDR and vram. The PS5 for example has 16gb of GDDR and 0.5gb DDR. The vram is much faster.

    • @akin242002
      @akin242002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lunawense6288 We are comparing RAM speed to Apple's Macbooks and Mac Minis. Bringing up PS5 has nothing to do with the conversation.

    • @SimonVaIe
      @SimonVaIe 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@akin242002 the ram speed doesn't tell you the whole story though, e.g. access times and bandwidth

  • @saucekilla2136
    @saucekilla2136 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m sad I’m paying off a m2 MacBook Air I just got it not even 2 weeks ago :/

  • @Abhishek__Parihar
    @Abhishek__Parihar วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watching this on 8GB Linux laptop

  • @michaelp.6511
    @michaelp.6511 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    6gig isn‘t just macos, also parts of installed apps are preloaded and also includes the graphics ram. As long you use the preinstalled apps 8gig will be fine e.g. streaming, watching movies, doing text and calculation stuff, surfing web, creating birthday party invites for the kids, creating family photo albums and look backs.

    • @MoltenPie
      @MoltenPie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      why would you need the latest silicon then? m1 would be indistinguishable in this set of tasks

    • @michaelp.6511
      @michaelp.6511 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MoltenPie To be able to use the device with the latest features for as long as possible. The M1 will no longer receive OS updates sooner than the M3. This has nothing to do with the RAM.

    • @Weaselszone
      @Weaselszone 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is because the device will be utilising swap, not because 8GB is enough. You forget that streaming (especially TH-cam), browsing and productivity apps (Office 365, Google Suite, no sensible company uses just Apple's productivity suite) will always use more.
      In order to ensure that it doesn't crash, it uses Swap. However that isn't showing that 8GB RAM is enough, it's showing that a much worse fallback is required to avoid catastrophic failure because 8GB RAM is not enough.

    • @michaelp.6511
      @michaelp.6511 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Weaselszone no sensible company should buy the base model… thanks for answering your own „question“.

    • @Weaselszone
      @Weaselszone 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@michaelp.6511 It is rather convenient that you also forgot that students exist and people who do their own accounting. You're just showing more so on why the base model shouldn't exist. So that means no sensible person should either, because they're also definitely not going to get 7 years out of it. Thank you for adding a new point on top of mine. 8GB RAM is enough and never buy the base model.
      It's also convenient how all the technical explanations went over your head, too, because you now know 8GB isn't actually enough, so you're diverting to a different topic.

  • @medou99
    @medou99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bruv i got off the mac hype train when i realized i could build the same mac in about 50 percent of the cost on pc. 😂 i never looked back

    • @SahilP2648
      @SahilP2648 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Macs are a godsend for software developers though. I can now see why people use them (before Apple silicon I agree it didn't make much sense).

    • @medou99
      @medou99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @SahilP2648 but if you really wanted OS software you could just do that instead of installing windows. For my home computer it just never made economical sense to buy a Mac. The performance of macs are always lagging behind, older hardware, over priced, sometimes not even offering new hardware. And for my laptop, I just need it to browse the internet most of the time, so a Google Chrome book does just fine at what 250 dollars. Forget about repairs on a Mac you might as well buy a new pc. I repeat there is no good reason to buy a Mac unless you like burning money.

    • @SahilP2648
      @SahilP2648 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@medou99 so you aren't a software developer. Become one to know why Macs are a godsend.

    • @mitchelllukovsky6197
      @mitchelllukovsky6197 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SahilP2648I use Mac for software dev. It’s not much better than windows

    • @medou99
      @medou99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @SahilP2648 I am not a software developer so I don't know anything how that would be a godsend. So I couldn't comment on that, but I feel like most of us aren't. What would stop you from installing an os operating system on a pc you build.

  • @akshitsharma466
    @akshitsharma466 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think he's wrong about macos using 6 gb ram I have a 8gb macbook it uses 4-4.5 gb of ram idle what I think that if we buy a 16 gb of ram macbook the macos will definitely going to use more ram maybe 6 gb also my recommendation to definitely go for 16 gb of u can afford

    • @Bluestarferies
      @Bluestarferies หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have the 16GB m1 air and it uses 9gb when I boot it up.

  • @toadlguy
    @toadlguy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Sorry Max, not true. The OS uses about 4 GBs and gets out of the way when more memory is needed. I have a 8GB Mac Mini (M1) and can run the latest llama3 8B directly on the silicone ((no swap). You can also run a 6GB container (not great, but you can do it).

    • @istvanszabo5745
      @istvanszabo5745 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It will use 6 gbs of memory. The difference is that when you have such a low amount of ram, the os will save up some ram (for other programs), in this case 2 gbs and, and put those 2 gbs of data on your ssd. Accessing data from an ssd is much, much slower than accessing it from ram, so your system will feel slower.
      There are videos on youtube that shows that when you have quite a few tabs open in your web browser, it takes like a second to switch between tabs. I dont know about you, but if i buy a laptop for so much money and it lags when im just browsing the internet because they scammed me by not putting in a component that costs basically nothing these days, id be really mad.
      You can now crawl back into your cave, apple fanboi.

    • @0bsmith0
      @0bsmith0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a system that will be swapping. Not good for a system.

  • @tripleaGD_
    @tripleaGD_ 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    and it is also 128 gbs on linux

  • @ozlemeryigit9584
    @ozlemeryigit9584 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro the thumbnail literally says 8GB on Mac=16GB on Windows wdym that’s not true💀

  • @Astinsan
    @Astinsan หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can run macos in 2g of ram.. what is he talking about?

  • @woofiooxx
    @woofiooxx 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love how they moan about something that works 😂😂

  • @SkibidiGyatt999
    @SkibidiGyatt999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pls help me with a bidget Mac if 8gb isn’t enough

    • @NCHLTII
      @NCHLTII 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The used market

  • @nothabibikah24
    @nothabibikah24 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The thing about windows is that you can upgrade the ram on every normal machine (laptop or desktop), but Mac you can’t!

  • @zedpopper
    @zedpopper หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can't wipe you ass with 8 GB. 32 GB is $60 RETAIL!
    There is no excuse for anything more than a Chromebook ship with less.

  • @gotj
    @gotj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Chrome alone needs 8GB :-)

    • @50Steaks68
      @50Steaks68 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please don’t use chrome it takes up gigabytes of precious storage, eats all your battery life, and doesn’t block ads unless you get extensions which they’re probably just gonna get rid of. Use brave

    • @josuastangl7140
      @josuastangl7140 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@50Steaks68Brave works, so does Chrome with adblock

  • @Dominus_Potatus
    @Dominus_Potatus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Laptop in 2024, if really want to pushe the budget should either have at least 12 GB.
    Either it is upgradeable, 8GB + 1 upgradeable, or soldered min. 12 GB.
    If we are seeing in the future, ideally, we need at least 16GB so it can run for at least 5 years with no issue.
    It is regardless of professional use.
    If 6GB is used only for OS (well, it reserve some memory to get snappier experience), and chrome needs at least 2 GB in my daily use... we know it is not enough.
    And remember that Macbook air uses unified memory while some Windows laptop has dedicated memory for GPU, so technically 8GB RAM + 4GB VRAM.
    Those 4 GB VRAM will be more useful if you need to edit video or use light Ai stuffs

  • @cidluiz
    @cidluiz 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Even the Mac boys know about the Apple RAM SCAM

  • @vladimir8201
    @vladimir8201 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Memory is not so expensive, why is Apple so greedy? 😮

  • @PL3RAX
    @PL3RAX 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The price of 64 Gigs of DDR5 ultra fast RAM in Windows laptop = the price of 16 Gigs of ram in MacBooks

  • @fnShun
    @fnShun 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They needed to compare 8 on Mac and 16 on Windows, but they did compare 16 Mac and 32 on Mac. Am I stupid or what?

  • @lucasmartines6115
    @lucasmartines6115 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had a notebook with 8gb of ran, it was't able to open 2 adobe xd layouts in the same time on edge, while using photoshop and youtube and vs code, to be able to do this i needed to upgrade to 12 gb, i tried to go to 16 but my notebook did't work, BUT on my mac with 8gb of ram just worked, whitout lag, edge JUST WORKS and on mac it runs WITHOUT disabling my other tabs in background. I had another notebook older with linux that was able to work with 8gb of RAM, not like MAC OS, but OK, opening more tabs, FOR ME is not THE RAM, IS the SHITTY SYSTEM THAT STEAL RAM LIKE CHROME FOR NOTHING... 8GB on windows vs 8GB on MAC is like 4GB on windows vs 8GB on MAC/Linux.

  • @samoerai6807
    @samoerai6807 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Mac OS using 6GB is just pure bs 💀. Even windows uses 3.5GB for me (a clean install that is)

    • @sebbbi2
      @sebbbi2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My M3 Max (48GB RAM) after clean boot uses 9.3GB. Activity Monitor says: Used memory = 9.3GB. App memory = 4.3GB. OS is 5GB? There’s also 8GB cached files. Modern operating systems use extra RAM as file cache to speed up things + reduce SSD wear. 8GB is problematic as there’s no room for disk cache at all. And lots of swapping too.

    • @phamnguyenductin
      @phamnguyenductin หลายเดือนก่อน

      True - once swapping occurs, I instantly notice the performance degradation.

  • @alejob54
    @alejob54 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8gb works fine to browse the web and reply emails.

  • @robotron1236
    @robotron1236 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will NEVER run any OS that isn’t open source EVER again. If I need something proprietary, I spin up a virtual machine. I even have a MacOS VM in qemu. I think I’ve used it once.

  • @QuantumCanvas07
    @QuantumCanvas07 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He has zero idea of real case scenarios

  • @KoeiNL
    @KoeiNL 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I guess people saying 8GB is fine just proves most Apple users don't do actual work on their Macbooks.

  • @sisko212
    @sisko212 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guys, you should already knows it. 8g of ram for Apple is a feature, not a lack !

  • @TheArnoldMedia
    @TheArnoldMedia 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    no different cause it use swap memory anyways lol

  • @nadred5396
    @nadred5396 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    8gb is fine for most people, the majority of the world doesn’t use their laptop to game, develop software etc.
    They just watch TH-cam, use Microsoft word, google chrome, check emails.

  • @tchogon4692
    @tchogon4692 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    MacOS DOES NOT use 6GB by itself.

  • @rj7855
    @rj7855 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    64gb on pc = way too expensive or simply impossible on Mac

  • @helloken
    @helloken 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Apple zealots will still argue how Apple is special and 8gb is "unified" then ask you if you know what that means when they themselves do not.
    No offense intended sorry if it sounds that way, but TL;DR Max is right, 8GB is pretty low on a modern mac and it's definitely to collect as much money from the consumer as possible, such as $200 extra just to bump to 16gb. SSDs are very small for base models too by modern standards.

  • @robertm20
    @robertm20 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "macos and windows use 6gb when idle"
    Meanwhile linux users considering 1gb idle on ubuntu bloated:

  • @corvinyt
    @corvinyt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I can’t wait for my 8GB M1 MBA to keel over so that I can buy a new 16GB M3/4. I've been waiting a long time.

    • @hermanwooster8944
      @hermanwooster8944 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You could always sell the M1 to compensate for the cost of the new M3/4.

    • @corvinyt
      @corvinyt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@hermanwooster8944 It was meant as a joke, leaning on the fact that it hasn't yet broken down even with 8GB of RAM. Yes, I'll probably buy a 15" 16GB MBA soon.

  • @anony_meows
    @anony_meows 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    lol you load a 4gb texture to an m1 mac, doesn't magically turn it into 2gb

  • @m_adamec
    @m_adamec 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mac god

  • @exxon47_
    @exxon47_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Meanwhile I have a core booted Chromebook with two gigs of RAM and can run modern Linux with only 500 megs 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @nullerror4049
    @nullerror4049 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    im running a 8gb m1 air..... 6 safari tabs open. discord, mail and stremio and i dont go over 4gb of ram. 6 only for macos is hella cap. than again i didnt buy it for development. i bought it as a better chrome book. and god i hope i can turn off all ai shit when it gets here. im sick of it

  • @99aabbccddeeff
    @99aabbccddeeff 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    8GB is OK for Air machines, but for Pro models it is definitely low. It should start from 16 for Pro models

    • @NCHLTII
      @NCHLTII 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Imagine apple silicon but with upgradable RAM and SSD, that would be the greatest laptop of all time

    • @99aabbccddeeff
      @99aabbccddeeff 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NCHLTII personally, I don't care about upgradable RAM because it adds overhead for performance, sizes and energy consumption. SSD - maybe.

  • @deestort
    @deestort 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yet I run most everything on macbook air m1 with 8gb. Max doesn’t know what he’s talking about

    • @nicolasmedeiros8778
      @nicolasmedeiros8778 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lot's of swapping, which slows down your pc

    • @user-qe6in7yt2l
      @user-qe6in7yt2l หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you run? TH-cam isn’t costing gigabytes of ram an swapping is also an issue

  • @stevenrisnyovszky1120
    @stevenrisnyovszky1120 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    8GBs of RAM is not great, I got an old MacBook Pro 2018 13 inch and it’s enough, cuz I don’t do much with this MacBook, but for people with a certain demand on there devices, just no freaking way is nobody caring about this! Just buy the MacBook with 18GBs of RAM! Of no MacBook at all!

  • @DadEncyclopedia
    @DadEncyclopedia 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Windows只剩下記憶體可以說嘴

  • @hamedizzy5137
    @hamedizzy5137 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You neeed 128G of u died memory 😎go big!!

  • @onth3hous3
    @onth3hous3 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They’re always assuming people are going to be running it to the ground. 8gb is perfectly fine for a standard user who doesn’t do much anyways (work, school, web browsing, TH-cam videos). For “gamers” and productivity users yes, 16gb+ RAM is recommended but these clowns really don’t know what they are talking about 😂

  • @somone799
    @somone799 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is dumb macos philosohy that unused ram is wasted ram hence, it caches files and apps to load faster. It will infact decrease its own ram usage if more intense tasks are being done. That being 8gb of ram on macos is fine but I would just use linux if I had low end specced machine.

  • @Ghostdawg176
    @Ghostdawg176 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That’s why I use Linux 🤓

  • @sholmes_ttyy
    @sholmes_ttyy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Even the fanboys are accepting 8 go is not enough

  • @dossantos_films
    @dossantos_films 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Find it funny going back to videos reviewing my Air M1. Everyone saying it's a great laptop for editing videos... Trust me, it's garbage.

  • @M14yearsago
    @M14yearsago หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have 4GB in 2024 :)

  • @egnerozo1160
    @egnerozo1160 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8 is enough… For office work and media consumption

  • @Lynn-sh8wf
    @Lynn-sh8wf 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Either ur windows laptop is jam packed with useless junk, or Im the only windows laptop user that barely touches 3gb on idle

  • @kirekocev2587
    @kirekocev2587 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    BS, my hackintosh uses 2gb ram and i have 8

  • @ShermanCassidy
    @ShermanCassidy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Windows uses the same, so it really is comparable.