How To Spot A Cheap Watch - 5 Features All Beginners Should Know
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- In this video, I explain how to spot a cheap watch for beginners. I cover 5 wristwatch features you should be aware of, so you can buy better watches in the future.
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The easiest way to spot a cheap watch is to look on my wrist. :)
😂😂😂😂😂
True or another way is to look on my wrist
JK, Rolox is pretty good. 👍
i guess I am kind of randomly asking but does anybody know a good site to stream new movies online?
@Kashton Peter I would suggest Flixzone. You can find it on google :)
Should rename the vid "how to spot a Daniel Wellington"
🤣👍
Dominic Clarke look for D W on the dial, or a sideways hour glass for MVMT. I get your joke, but in practice it’s too specific to limit the video to one awful brand
You can smell them.
Andrew_Owens smells like carcinogenic petroleum byproducts evaporating into the air and entering my lungs
@@bruhdabones Well you're troubles will soon be over and you saved yourself the embarrassment of wearing a DW.
3€ on Aliexpress
"I wonder if that's a cheap watch..."
Not sure I agree with you about Miyota Japanese movements being inferior in any way to Swiss quartz movements. The Japanese ones cost less, but in my experience they perform just as well if not better than entry level Swiss quartz movements. Other than that I think you're pretty much right on when it comes to the other points, if a watch has 3 or four of those flags, it's probably a cheap watch.
From personal experience BenQ monitors have 100% failure rate. It doesn't mean much.
That being said, they're ramming a $4 quartz in a watch that's sold for much more than that. For that price you could get a better quartz movement, including from Miyota.
From my experience the Miyota movements can vary widely in quality.
Some only use steel bearings for example, while others actually have jewels.
The amount of jewels compared to the amount of functions can be a quality indication.
I feel like generic design is something that's really common at both the very low and very high end of watches, I mean something like Patek Philippe is the definition of generic looks wise. That's also not necessarily bad but imo one should also give credit to brands that try to push the envelope a little bit, it is ok to charge for that too.
I wouldn't buy a quartz unless it's a Casio or another digital watch
Its not about using cheap movements so much as overpricing these cheap movements. If your watch costs 2-3 pounds to make, selling them fot 100-200 pounds is ridiculous.
Yes! Let's see a video on "decent brands at each price point."
I second this notion!
Citizen for under £500, I have owned my Citizen Eco-Drive for coming up to five years and use it for work. Keeps very good time and looks good next to my Breitling and Tag.
@@s28ero I have 15 watches. I had a citizen that would just stop working randomly after not being worn a while. So I got a different one, and it does the same thing. They just like to be worn frequently. I had both in the Sun after I got them working and after a while they'd still quit. After another reset I started alternating wearing them and after a while they were still working. As long as I wear them every now and then it keeps working just fine and I am pretty satisfied with it. ( A while being a few months)
Under 300, it seems, casio, timex, Seiko are the only ones.
Jacob Belcher 35 my old seiko lasted 7 years
I like the pun, " keep watching"
Hamilton
Orient
Seiko
Citizen
Tissot
Boluva
These brands provide great watches that are under $500 and are worth every penny.
Don’t forget Bulova
anonymous bosh
I always type that one wrong. That moon watch for 350 is sick, tho.
😄
The Unrelenting Male Gaze Actually Boluva’s growing on me. Much better than Tossit!
anonymous bosh
I agree. At least both produce a quality product.
@@fauxchung3189 wearing a Bulova UHF right now (literally just realised!)
6th - It's being promoted by self-proclaimed influencers
7th - Affordable "LuXUrY WaTChEs"
Guten Tag Genosse
Some really good points about the red flags. Makes me angry how overpriced many of these fashion brands are. However I’d never recommend a watch with a mechanical movement to someone unless they knew what they were getting in to because: Mechanicals are far less precise timekeepers than quartz and often need to be adjusted regularly because of this; they stop running after a couple of does when not worn and then need to be reset (unless you are able to wind them manually or keep them in a watch winder); they can be fiddly to reset and expensive to maintain (servicing by a watchmaker or having the movement replaced every 5 to 10 years).
I’m writing this as a mechanical watch enthusiast who nevertheless still prefers them over quartz. 😉
Sapphire is definitely more scratch resistant however it is more likely to shatter than mineral glass keep that in mind.
this is true, but i've never heard of anyone shattering sapphire, but i've seen scratches on mineral alot
If you receive a blow hard enough to shatter the sapphire, the watch will be the least of your worries
This seems to be often touted as a defense of mineral crystal or acrylic, but as others have mentioned it seems very rare to actually shatter it, and the shock to the watch itself would also potentially damage the movement (especially mechanical)
On the flip side, almost everyone who owns a watch with mineral crystal will likely scratch that crystal. Id say if you are really concerned about shattering, get acrylic, as at least you can buff the scratches out when you get them.
I buy and fix a lot of watches and Sapphire crystals are often shattered so a thicker mineral crystal is better as they flex more and you can polish scratches out. Acrylic is by far the best choice of crystal in my book but they are best on older watches with curved dials as the acrylic makes these come to life.
@@sirbum1918 You're cracked. Sapphire is best, period.
I own a Seiko 5 automatic, have owned it since I was 18. I'm over 40 today..
Not that is quality, however, the price then was around 1200:- ( about 126US$ ). Still the same price today, different design on the bezel etc.
Best one I have ever owned.
“Affordable luxury” = cheap
Affordable luxury = better than Rolex 💪
@@BensWatchClub hi aaron
If you feel like dropping 5K on a watch is great then yeah they must look cheap
Timex is a cheap watch that was intended for someone who wants to look like they are wearing something more expensive.
@@BensWatchClub what's bad about Rolex?
“These automatics also have a smooth sweepings seconds hand”
Laughs in Spring Drive
Lol yes. I'd love to have a GS, but my best watch currently is a Seiko Premiere. The spring drive is so awesome to look at. My Bulova Precisionist Chronograph looks very smooth, but Grand Seiko has it down with the Spring Drive.
Well, the spring drive technically is an automatic watch :) A beautiful piece of engineering and very precise quartz oscillator ran trough (ok, with a gear train in the middle) a mainspring charged by a counterweight.
PErsonally love that thing.
Grand Seiko released a quartz watch that is just an amazing piece, it is calibrated to + or - 10 seconds, PER YEAR.
‘Most watches under £200 use a quartz movement’
Seiko: hold my batteries
Seiko not that cheap
@@jackj2851 ok. So you agree then. Most watches under 200 use quartz right.
@@jackj2851 well then pal. You comment is very deceiving and contradicting .
@@jackj2851 well your comment didnt state that ma'am. Your not a very likeable person. Good day
@@jackj2851 it was the delivery of the joke. It was all off. Threw me off. Confused me. And now I'm irritated. Whatever
Funny that Rolex’s Oysterquartz ticks loud too, and the beating per second features also in “dead beat” mechanical movements.
Yet, you’re right about everything you said, and I agree with this video, just wanted to spot those unusual facts.
Japanese Miyota quartz movements are actually quite decent even though they are inexpensive.
Well there are some really bad ones... e.g. in my fake ice watch, there is a myota movement that is loud as hell and doesnt hit a single index, i would consider this one as not good, though it is more accurate than my seiko
@@IKucheINtortIE going further off what Simon has said, those sort of errors tend to come from how the watch is cased. Can be a sign of a poorly built watch, not necessarily the movement. Personally I would judge both quartz and mechanical movements based on their materials, finish quality and most importantly time keeping accuracy
@@watchalot919 indices is just plural of one index
@@IKucheINtortIE the indexes match is about the fitting of the hands, not the movement. If they fit the second hand not taking care of centering it, that's the result. This said, very few quartz movements are valuable... A generic rule is to check if they have rubies or not. Rubies (aka jewels) are the bearings of the gears inside.
Another thing that shows how good it can be is if it's thermo-compensated. The temperature has an influx over the quartz precision, so if there is a compensation for this it is much better.
@@watchalot919 Index was correct in that context
Vincero's advertisements are everywhere. 😂.
Two more things to look for:
1) screw down, vs snap on back
2) 100% stainless steel or titanium case, vs plated case.
Plated alloy is a nasty one
Another sign of a cheap watch: the second hand misses the indicator on the face (Ben's peeve from Braun)!
Not necessarily. You can be lucky with a cheap watch. My £7.99 Casio is spot on.
Scott G. Seikos and citizens are bad about that
I guess so yeah, it can indicate poor quality control or a terrible movement
Casio are good for me at least. Timex is awful and noisy , luck of the draw sometime...my Phoibos quartz hits all markers.
As Ben said: none of these guarantee a bad watch, but the more of these boxes a watch checks (or shall I say "ticks") the more likely it's a bad watch.
I've personally had good luck with Casio, too.
Vostok komandirskies mark none of the boxes and can be found for like $40
Usually the best advice for anyone looking for something cheap: Buy a Seiko 5, a Vostok Amphibia, a Casio G-Shock in a color you like and you're pretty much done with the cheap end of collecting.
You consider a seiko 5 or a casio G shock cheap ?
@@bengaku Yes. Most of them will be between 50 to 100 USD/euro, depending. That gives you many options with both brands. (With the 5's, I'm talking classic 5 - not the overpriced new divers.)
What I'd consider really cheap: anything up to that 50 USD/euro mark. Something like a Casio AE1200, Timex Weekender, offerings from Lorus, Pulsar, etc.
Stuff like 5 usd watches from AliExpress are not cheap watches, considering they usually don't even run right, offer no water resistance, are poorly made with defects, etc. etc.
@@bjornkeizers just curious what watches do you have in your collection I know I have casio including G shock also Edifice editions which can cost between 200 or 300 pounds and i would not say they whee cheap a cheap watch to me is something you get from Ali Express or wish
@@bengaku I own a few watches. Casio G-Shocks can definitely be expensive - like the GPR-B1000 rangeman that I own. When I'm talking of cheap Casio G-Shocks, I'm thinking of the DW-5600E or a 6900 series.
Over the years I've owned watches like the Breitling Airwolf, two Omega Speedmasters, Rado DiaStar, and I have about 50 Casio G-Shocks.
@@bjornkeizers 50 casio watches that's enough to start a store lol yeah I like the look of the range master but it's not the sort of watch I would get full use of as many of the features really only come into play when you are mountaineering rock climbing you know that sort of thing
Some folks in China are taking notes, to make a perfect flawless watch, thanks to you!!!
My friend was about to buy a Daniel Wellington. I immediately sprung into action and asked him to just give me a few days before he purchased the watch.
Within a week I had bought an immaculate Tissot Everytime including its original leather strap and box for just £35 delivered from ebay. Then I bought an assortment of 4 different classic nato straps from Amazon for 28 quid. For just £68 quid he had a far superior watch than anything daniel Wellington offers with the same fashion style and design. Except he now had a watch with a heritage from a reputable watch brand and 5 different interchangeable straps to choose from to match his attire. The watch will never be an expensive watch, but it will always be worth more than any Dan Wellington 👌
Help me. 35 for a Tissot is impossible. They always go over 120 never less. As of now starting with 130.
@@viclucyzia he's cappin
While watch shopping for my mother, I was handed a Coach branded watch at a jewler's to compare to other watches on display. I gave it back and noted that their $450 marked Coach watch had a crooked dial. Bought her a nice little Citizen Eco Drive instead.
Nice little video Ben. Straight to the point, accurate and useful. Well done.
Thanks mate
Great stuff to keep in mind! thanks!
DW lol!!! i’m so glad it is on the list
good video, straight to the point and staying as close to facts helps keep personal opinions from affecting your reviews. well done
Myota Automatics aren’t bad !
Yea, sevenfriday has watches at $1000 using a miyota automatic
Raj Gill my Rotary skeletal watch is great and has this movement. It is somewhat difficult to set the second hand exactly where u want it as it tends to move when pressing the button down. But apart from that I’ve had no issues (had it for nearly 2 years).
@@rajgill7576 With a 1000$ watch a automatic miyota isn't very good value tbh. At that price aj ETA at the least would be expected.
@@pablohelmig1357 I know you didnt bother looking at the watch before saying that. It is the most expensive timepiece using a miyota but its not about the movement, its about the watch face
Buy a Casio or Timex if you have to be low cost. Couple other good ones too
I bought a Seiko Presage Automatic for only 250€ in an Outlet Store in the Netherlands. Great price for such a nice watch with a good automatic movement
About point 5: well known clothing brands that rebrand cheap watches like Armani, Gucci or Diesel.
Generally a bad choice.
I have already written a comment in the other direction calling out brands like montblanc or bulgari, which make more than decent watches with inhouse movements, but you are also right, hugo boss and s.Oliver are some brands you should not trust
@@IKucheINtortIE Yes, Hugo Boss... A friend had one... The indices came loose and got trapped behind the dial.
At first it had become a rattling device without issues, but after some time it stopped working.
@@IKucheINtortIE Btw, doesn't Kaninchen mean little rabbit?
@@QoraxAudio yes, created my account when i got a bunny and mine and my sisters liked each other so much that by the next year i had 13 little fluff balls hopping around and you just cant fall in love with them. Or eat them but we didnt do that. We just loved them until they died
*Cannot not love them
Nice, solid advice. Thanks for sharing.
Good idea I'm looking forward to best brands.
Some quartz movements are high end and very interesting, like Grand Seiko makes
Thanks.
Great video
Yes!!! That’s sounds like a good idea.
Hey Ben, regarding the straps, could you make a video about how to take care of watch straps? What products to use to clean them and moisturise etc?
T W Generally if you’ve got a good strap, you do nothing. If you want to clean them, then take a *very* *mild* soap with water on a rag and leave it damp only. With as much care as possible, lightly clean your strap. I have never done this for any of my straps and don’t intend to. This is only if it really bothers you!
I would love to see a video where you talk about brands to look out for
I always love your videos showing dani welldingdong when you talk about cheap materials and bad quality.
Fantastic video. I’ve personally been getting into micro brands lately such as Jack Mason and Phoibos which are two brands doing some really cool work. Love your channel!
Good review thanks
Best brands video is a good idea!
Also Ben I would love to hear your take on some of the brands using mechaquartz movements, For example Yema (the French company making watches since right after ww2) they offer the rallygraf in mechaquartz. Also Nezumi has some great offerings. So many of these fashion brands push upwards into the 2-300 ranges at times and for that often you can get great designs from other companies, some with real heritage and pedigree.
"Our unique selling model cuts out the middle-man to pass the savings straight on to you!"
Excellent!
if you first see it on an instagram ad, boom its not a quality watch
wait so omega and rolex don't have quality watches
An Kul i mean did u first hear about the brand from an instagram ad
This comment will not age well if big, proven and tested classic brands will slowly start to incorporate social media marketing in their business plans lol.
Helpful
Good idea!
orient Bambino is a great beginner watch it's just too bad that they are a little big at 40.5. mm .
they have a 37mm version now.
And think that for others (like me, with my 19.7cm wrist) are too small :(
Just buy a 36 mm Rolex then. Super masculine.
Nice educational video
Also if the date wheel/complications are too centralized and out of proportion to the dial (mvmt and vincero come to mind). It shows the size is out of spec and looks even more outrageous when the case is made too oversized. There are times when even a quartz movement can be a big selling point for inexpensive watches like seikos vk series mechaquartz but a huge tell is his out of scale any complication subdails could be.
I envy first world country. As a simple 3rd world peasant, Timex is all I could afford. So 80 dollar Seiko after conversion to my currency, tax and shipping fee basically cost as much as 2 months salary.
Please appreciate the watch you have on your wrist.
Lol
The "Vincero" ad before the vid made me smile.
great vid
Hi Ben, go for it. A bit of consumer advice is always welcome.
Been rocking my San Martin Diver watch which has a Hi beat movt 120 click bezel domed sapphire crystal screw down crown screwed links and thick C3 superluminova for $195 us! It's running +4! It's what a Seiko diver should be!!
I like how your back drop looks like the blue of a sunburst of a watch face. Nice job.
I'd love the video on the best brands! Man, I want an Orient
I’d love to hear what you think of Tayroc.
I bought a "clayton" quartz dive watch from one of the local op shops. The watch cost me $20AU. I opened the the screw down case back to find that the movement was a Seiko. For a watch that weigh 146gms, 35mm case, 39mm to crown, 45mm lug to lug, solid bracelet links, date window at the 4 o'clock, and a unidirectional bezel that clicked around very nicely with no slackness. It even had lume that lasted for a couple of minutes. Unlike the traditional dive watches with water resistance of over 200m, this pretend dive watch was only 30m water resistance. Dive, dive, dive whilst having a shower. Not even that. The tip here is that you can find some bargains at the ops shops, or even at the pawn brokers, especially when they are having a huge reduction on their original prices. Mainly to keep their inventories moving. Oh yes. The name of the watch brand on the dial...My Leave. Dinkum!
Just get a seiko 5 people. You can mod it to basically uncheck every check on his list for under $250
@Aman Bhardwaj Of course, thats one of the first mods I suggest. They sell just about every shape and AR coating color at this point for around $40 or under
@Aman Bhardwaj yea, it does add up. I am a huge seiko fan I have a couple grand seikos myself, and I have gold plated clasps to match watch cases etc. I would recommend it! Once you invest, the tools are there forever
@Aman Bhardwaj I have replaced a chipped sapphire crystal before, same process. Also have revived "dead" watches with a little lubrication in the right spots. Nothing to lose of the watch already didnt worl but I got a free longines out of it
@Aman Bhardwaj My most prized piece is a 73 or 74 grand seiko, I go on forums and am in a facebook group to make sure I get the correct piece. My GS is very old, gold, and valuable, and I needed a very specific part for thr date quickset and the facebook owners groupnot only found me this rare piece from japan, but an uograded version with metal that will last longer
wow this is really good and quality content you should have 50x the subscribers that you have right now
"Genuine Leather." :) I had only ever received genuine leather straps on the watches I had purchased in the past. I just purchased a Seiko Presage, and it came on a calf leather strap. What a difference! So much better than "genuine leather!"
try fresh stretched baby beaver leather!
I once brought a watch for $5, and it's great. I can't seem to find them anywhere, but it's a WMC, and brought secondhand, but never used, still had tags and such. Had to change battery for $15, and then I had to change straps for $25, and then the glass broke, and it was $40. Could I have gotten a nice watch for that amount of money? Sure, but I liked the design, and it's been on my wrist everyday since I brought a few years back.
where'd you get that casio sapphire watch? It's neat!
Great video! The Casio Sapphire LTP is beautiful. Sadly, it's not available anywhere.
You should have mentioned finish as well. Much of the cost in high end watches is down to hand finishing, which can take months in some cases. Cheap watches have very little if any finishing, let alone hand finishing.
I was considering buying the swatch 007 watch. It's £186. Now I know it's well marked up because of it being special edition. It says quarts, but I assume swiss quartz? Also, you can see the internals. Only thing I don't like are a few plastic cogs. It looks great though
Yep, a video on value for money brands, at different price points sounds like a good idea,,,,,,
Montblanc is really good now, I bought a sport, and it's awesome,
Ben may I ask which watch you're wearing on this video? Also if u can make a video in the future about straps.
Thanks
he wears Casio A158. he made a video about it.
I am happy with my sub c. It’s the only watch I’ll be wearing for the next decade.
Good content. Liked this one ☝️. DW needed to be called out. 😁
Yep
Hilarious when considering the "Japanese quartz movement" costs less that a couple of quid to purchase directly 😂
I have a Tissot..Swiss made $400. I love it
At 1:07 an Invicta automatic watch is being shown. In fact it is a Seiko movement. Used a lot but a soild Seiko movement.
Thanks for the info. I mess up and bought a Vincero. Never again
Could you do a video on shinola? They look like good quality watches but would love to hear what you think
Genuine Leather is to leather as Spam is to ham on the bone.
I bought a Spaghetti Scametti watch on eBay for £23,095. It had great write ups. I like colour of the watch face but I’m sure it shouldn’t lose 23 minutes every hour. I do love how when you shake it the second hand spins round inside. As complications go that’s something I’ve never seen before. 😊
So which are the safe good-value cut-out-the-middle-man Our Story microbrands? Are there any at that price range?
boldr have some amazing field watches for 300$. Sapphire crystal, automatic.
They had the same watch with an ETA quartz for $150 that they discontinued. But I'm sure if you snoop around a bit on eBay, you'll find it new at that price.
shpalman7 I see watches like car or camera companies. the depth in knowledge and practice has to be deep, so much so that it makes barriers to entry very high for newcomers. I’d rather like to see more experimental or paired down spinoffs from heritage brands. maybe like what orient is to seiko
@@MrMadvillan well ok but which newcomers start by trying to develop an in-house movement? The entry barrier is a whole lot lower if they can buy in ETA or Seagull movements. Then again, what's the point of having all these watch brands which are all the same movement inside anyway...
Phoibos , I've found to be really good quality for the money. The Quartz diver is back on Amazon for £100... sapphire crystal , nice finishing and a Ronda quartz I think. The Pagani design diver and mechaQuartz are good too.. got them both from Ali express for £83 during 11/11 sale. Wouldn't hesitate to recommend any of the above.
I think Undone and Dan Henry are considered to be ok for the money, right?
Some other notes
If they say sapphire glass than it’s probably cheap. Glass is generic, sapphire glass can be impure sapphire which means it’s less scratch resistant. If you want pure sapphire, look for sapphire crystal.
What about reviewing Christopher Ward (British) Swiss Made watches
Good vid! Would you also agree that when the second hand is not aligned with the marks and bounces back after ever second (see 7:50) it's inferior?
It's true: genuine leather comes from genuine cows, the lowest grade of cows.
Any thoughts on Thomas Earnshaw watches?
Random question but what brand is that shirt you’re wearing? I’d like to buy one for myself
Quality
I'm a end user who enjoys and flips many watches and I agree with alot of what you say, but you being even more informed I ask you if you have ever reviewed good or even great chinese watches, and or will you? I think just because cheap watches are made there makes it unfair to categories all watches coming out of there as cheap, we all know some great brands manufactured and put together there. I feel strongly to say that as my wife was also made in China, and she is a great classy model too. But jokes aside we all enjoy great affordable things from there, I hope this comment is received well. Great video, thumbs up.
China has many technologies that rivals or even surpass americans. Like 5G technology and quantum computing. Dont tell me they cant make a decent watch. They can make a decent watch but at 20% the price.
I went out and purchased a generic, it does tick that is undeniable. But I am starting to see this purchase as an entry point. I wanted to see if I could wear a watch properly and not feel uncomfortable. Now I want to get an automatic and see how that works out.
:-) It does seem that my watch brand is check marking all the points, except for me using a Miyota movement.
1. Miyota movement (Tbh, I have not had a single days' problem with the Miyota in my watch design. )
2. All in-house design (casing, case back, movement holder, crown, dial, dial ring, strap, hands) [yep, making molds for all this was expensive]
3. Good quality leather from reputable supplier
4. Domed mineral glass
5. We just make watches.
Why did we start this endeavor? We got tired of similar-looking watches when we stood in front of a shop window.
Let's see what happens when we launch in about 2 months' time. (hold thumbs!)
If you’re unsure about watches one reliable fact is a Citizen watch is a great watch, good parts, reputable and they have tons of different designs to choose from. I have a titanium eco drive satellite wave promaster skyhawk and an eco drive promaster altichron and both are great. I also own Rolex , Bulova , Apple, Waldhoff Tourbillon and my Citizens are my go to daily wearing watches
Hi, I really enjoy your channel. I actually have the f91w from casio and the a159w that i absolutely love. I was checking because I am really new when talking about watches and I happened to found the casio mtp 1095q 9a. Do you have any idea if the watch is any good? I know it is really cheap but honestly I do not have that much money so I just want to make the right decision. Thank you so much
Depends on definition of good, Casio is tough reasonable accuracy and inexpensive, that is my defiant ion of good!
Hi. You should check out this Swiss brand called Roamer, they were very popular before quartz crysis. But they are coming back to the game with some of most affordable Swiss made automatic watches. I found Roamer Searock on sale for £311/$408 for that price you get - Swiss made, stainless steel case, saphire glass, ETA 2824, aesthetically case reminds me Grand Seiko. There is nothing similar to that on market.
What is your opinion on the Seiko Hardlex crystal?
Hi Ben, i'd love to see a review of the Giorgio Fedon 1919 Brand. Much love.
I've just bought a subbrand "Steeldive" pilot watch from AliExpress paid 90 euros 😁 with sapphire glass+NH35 Seiko 😁. It looks good to me 😁