I appreciate the suggestions, but the screwdriver shot at 20:56 is for illustrative b-roll purposes only. Both bracelets were sized off-camera with correctly sized screwdrivers, so no need to keep telling me 😅 no chance I'm risking scratching these with a camera dangling over my shoulder haha
Can you please try Swiss Alpine Military by Grovana? They have nice looking watches in the 150/200 range, are swiss made (the definition of swiss made by swiss law is very messed up btw) and looks like a real banger (ronda movements)
If you have issues with tight screws in a watch bracelet: 1. Detach the bracelet and place the watch head somewhere safe. 2. Use a small butane “pencil” torch to heat the screw for 10-20 seconds. Alternatively try a heat gun on medium heat. If you don’t have either of these, you can try heating with a hair dryer or submerge just the bracelet in boiling water for a minute or two as an alternative. 3. Use a heat-resistant glove to securely hold the bracelet while working on it. 4. Apply firm downward pressure and turn counterclockwise. Avoid applying too much force at once, as this can damage the screw or bracelet. If your hand starts shaking from exertion, stop to prevent slipping. 5. If the screw doesn’t loosen, repeat the heating process and try again. 6. If the screw unwinds smoothly, it was likely over-tightened. If you feel a “snap” followed by easy unwinding, this means a thread locker (eg Loctite) was used and the manufacturer probably over did it on that particular screw (grrr @ Omega). 7. High-strength thread locker is rarely used in watch bracelets, but if you still can’t remove the screw after heating and applying reasonable force, consider seeking help from a professional watchmaker to avoid damage. 8. If you don’t own any of the tools mentioned above and boiling water doesn’t work, purchase a butane jet torch (around $10) from a hardware or hobby store. A disposable jet lighter can work in a pinch but may heat your hand uncomfortably if used for too long.
23:35 - It is worth adding that the titanium versions of the Twelve use SW-300 with COSC rather than SW-200 so this 500 quid upgrade is not only dial and case material but also the movement.
I've had my C65 Aquitaine for about a year now, and honestly, I've held it in comparison to Longines in the $3-$4K range, some older Tudors, all in hand. The finishing is pretty much up to snuff with watches in the $3-$4K range. The brushing is very consistent and clean, the Sapphire is terrific, the bracelet is rock solid and the bezel action is to die for.
Recently having got a 36mm sealander gmt - I'm very pleased with it. Nicely designed, running well, and I expect it to be my go-to when I am not wearing a dress watch or beater.
I have the CW C60 Pro 600 and absolutely love it. The difference is I waited until they done a sale and snapped mine at £600! Which was a huge saving on the RRP of £1200 at the time of purchase at the beginning of this year. My advice to anyone is sign up to the CW mail list and you get an invite to their private sales direct from CW. They even sell the like new returns watches at even more money off.
I've gone from disliking their dials and finding their branding unattractive to absolutely loving what they do now! Their current logo is really nice. I'm particularly fond of The Twelve-how could I not be with that dial? And the C65 Dune, the C65 Dune is just so nice, I've come close to buying it. I do wish they still made quartz watches. Sure, The Twelve is fine as an automatic, but the C65 Dune would be ideal with a robust quartz movement. They wouldn't even need to make it cheaper; just offer a high-quality quartz movement in the C65 and sell it at the same price. If only Citizen could sell them a rock solid modern movement :D
I have a C65 Dune with the white sand dial and oak leather strap. I absolutely love the watch, the piece is so clean and feels very premium. The 38mm size hits the sweet spot too.
I really love your thorough long-form content-like this extensive review! If I might ask, would you perhaps be open to adding chapter markers to videos such as this one? I think that that could really go a long way.
I absolutely love my white C63 Sealander GMT. Gets way more wristtime than my Longines HydroConquest as it is so much more comfortable to wear. The microadjustment on the Bader clasp works wonders. And as I love the white-orange color scheme of the Explorer II but couldn't live with either the diameter or the price, I love the slight inspiration CW took, but still making a watch of their own. Fantastic watch for the price.
Also to note they have yearly sales through a link provided with signing up to their newsletter. When they do have these sales they can be upto 50% off and there is great value to be had even on new models. Back in 2018 I picked up the CW C60 Trident quartz for £175 on sale and now that watch on ebay is around £300/£350 depending on condition. I can honestly say the quality is incredible for the price point with a hardcore community of watch collectors. If anyone is considering a CW I would highly recommend
I think a Brand like CW deserves the support of the watch Comunity as a whole. I don't own one, and I haven't found one I love yet same as yourself, but I will suggest it to anyone who's looking to buy a "high end" watch in hopes they find one they like. When CW builds a watch I like I will absolutely buy it. the 3x the cost of the watch is a respectable pricing point that doesn't take into account R&D, corprate overhead, marketing, ect, and then there are initiatives the company supports like producing products with eco friendly materials. The company cares about it's customers, it's comunity, and the watch world as a whole.
I remember you saying you were going to do a review of Royal Orient in your 20 best Orient watches video, and I’d be interested in seeing how they stack up against CW
I've been interested in CW for a while now, but couldn't justify a watch at this price range. I think my mind is changing though - I'd love one of their Moonphase watches!
Woah, you’ve blew up mate. I subbed when you reviewed a whit dial Casio about 4/5 years ago but not been as active in the watch sphere as of late. Congrats and all the best !
The thing about CW talking in “cutting out the middle man” language is that they were the first brand to sell watches directly to consumers online twenty years ago; they were the first to genuinely use 3x markups (which they’d carried across from years in standard retail at ELC) and not have a distribution network cost, and hence no middle man. All the scam brands of recent years have since repeated “middle man” and “affordable luxury” but using crappy drop shipped stuff. Meanwhile CW are a genuine British/Swiss manufacturer with their own in-house calibre in the SH-21, plus the JJ and FS modules for Sellita movements. Whilst they started off as a generic micro brand they’re now a true independent watchmaker with some incredible pieces: the Bel Canto and their recent Moonphase for example, whilst the finishing on the Twelve X is outstanding. I’ve never understood people who don’t like watches with people’s names on. What about Roger Smith, Philippe Dufour, etc?
I own one CW: their quartz Valour chrono. It’s awesome. I’m so happy to see a usable quartz chrono that doesn’t use the ridiculous and illegible VK mechaquartz movement. I also love the Valour’s 39mm size. It’s a huge win for me.
For me personally, the BellCanto is the one to get. All of their other models can be attained similalrly from other brands at a better price. Also their prices have indeed been going up, so I expect that to continue as time goes by and I predict their desire is to eventually situate themselves in the upper tier/luxury price tier.
21:02 The screwdriver blade shown in this shot is too small. It should fill the length and width of the slot in the screw. Using too small of a driver will damage the screws in the way that was shown here. I hope this helps someone in the future.
20:56 If you have issues with tight screws in a watch bracelet: 1. Detach the bracelet and place the watch head somewhere safe. 2. Use a small butane “pencil” torch to heat the screw for 10-20 seconds. Alternatively try a heat gun on medium heat. If you don’t have either of these, you can try heating with a hair dryer or submerge just the bracelet in boiling water for a minute or two as an alternative. 3. Use a heat-resistant glove to securely hold the bracelet while working on it. 4. Apply firm downward pressure and turn counterclockwise. Avoid applying too much force at once, as this can damage the screw or bracelet. If your hand starts shaking from exertion, stop to prevent slipping. 5. If the screw doesn’t loosen, repeat the heating process and try again. 6. If the screw unwinds smoothly, it was likely over-tightened. If you feel a “snap” followed by easy unwinding, this means a thread locker (eg Loctite) was used and the manufacturer probably over did it on that particular screw (grrr @ Omega). 7. High-strength thread locker is rarely used in watch bracelets, but if you still can’t remove the screw after heating and applying reasonable force, consider seeking help from a professional watchmaker to avoid damage.
Your usual very comprehensive and well considered review. of what are decent watches. I own several.. There has been a move by some "reviewers" to place this brand in a tier they can't genuinely aspire to. Paid shills?? Who knows, but I don't agree with them. It's been a long time since they introduced their in house movement, but it hasn't been widely used or developed for more uses by the brand. It's a bit thick as is so would definitely need work to put CW in the "luxury" class. They've come a long way but still aren't competing with the big boys. Perhaps as you imply they aren't really trying, not wanting to venture too far along the flat part of the price/quality curve.
Thanks Ben. Comprehensive review. I have a CW chronograph, which is one of my favourites. They occasionally have 'real' sales with worthwhile discounts on end if line and ex demo watches. Thats how I bought mine, with around 30% discount. Sale products dont hang around tho :-)
My only historical beef with CW has been the branding and logo on the dials. I'm really glad to see they've addressed this issue because it now means, when at some point in the future I once more have discretionary funds to buy a watch (and who knows when that will be), CW will definitely be in the mix. I really like their bronze divers, for example, but a nice GMT would also be a great choice.
This has probably been asked a number of times but, if so, I couldn't see it: What is the make of the case back opening tool? I tried to zoom in on a screenshot and enhance the brand name but just couldn't work out what it is. It seems to end with "No.5/88" or "No.3/88" but I can't find those online either. Any clues gratefully received. :-)
I got my Sealander C63 a couple years before the brand popped, but it was before they changed their logo! Instead of the snazzy emblem, mine just says “Christoper Ward”. It’s the only thing I’d change tho, it has been just such a pleasure at that $1k point.
Ben, Christopher Ward applies light-grade thread-lock to the bracelet screws, like Rolex. You must heat the bracelet in warm water for around five minutes to soften the material, in order to back out the screws. You forced them, therefore stripping the screwheads. 👍🏼
I own a Sealander and love it. Think at the time it cost me around £700 on the bracelet, wish I had waited as mine has the old Christopher Ward logo and not the twin flags which I much prefer. I love the 12 and really fancy the Ti in the darker green, best save my pennies. Great review Ben. 👍
My son bought one of their chronometers that was wildly out. He sent it back and it came back exactly the same. On the other hand he has an older CW and it’s his favourite watch.
Christopher Ward is a bit all over the place with me. Some of their models are not what I’m interested in what-so-ever, but others like the C65 Aquitaine are calling my name. I think you’ve hit the nail on the head here - nothing that’s mind blowing but extremely solid value for money.
I felt the same for a long time. Seemed great if u wanted that true next step towards luxury as opposed to 300-500$ range. Until they introduced their c63 sh21 (in house, 5 day indicator, cosc certified, small seconds caliber) I instantly pulled the trigger on one for $2100 and im properly blown away at the value in this watch.
Great comment mate I got a Christopher ward 38 diver. Love it but I think they’ve dived in quickly and had a mixed bag , but the quality is good, movement lower end what a lot of watches use but on the whole they have chucked a banger in a oil refinery
There’s no brand where you’re going to love every watch in their range. They need to cater for different tastes. I’ve a C60 Elite 1000, but have a thing about integrated bracelets and would never consider the Twelve Sport. I like the dials, but no integrated bracelet will ever make it onto my wrist.
I pre ordered my CW Twelve when it came out in it’s bigger form. Still loving it and rocking it almost every day. The fit and finish really rivals more premium brands, like my BB58 from Tudor. Btw, you should give a shot à their new revision of the Moonglow C1 ! Truely amazing piece
I don't think there is any way to see these before you buy them right? I like the look of the Mulberry but I would like to see it in person especially as it's only available in a 36.
They have put in a conscious effort to hit a ton of shows and meetups (Red Bar etc). They are definitely making the rounds. They do have the 60/60 as well. They will pay return shipping and full refund if you order it and don't like it. It gets a little tricky if you are outside the UK getting back import duty and taxes but it can be done. Also note 60/60 means that you look it over and don't like it. Not size the bracelet and wear it for three weeks then declare you don't like it. You wouldn't get a full refund in this case.
Cheers for the review Ben! QUESTION: there's been another UK brand I've had my eye on, i.e Omologato, and more specifically their Panamericana model as seen on Wheeler Dealers. Any chance you'd be able to get your hands on any of their stuff for review? Their watches usually go for under £600.
I bought a C63 Sealander back in April. It’s a beautiful watch, with very high levels of finishing across the dial and a comfortable bracelet. My only complaint is that the movement lasts maybe 13 hours off wrist, as opposed to the stated 36. It often will stop working if I take it off when I get home from work and then put it back on the next morning.
Adjustable link first in the industry ?? Take a look at the Vacheron 5500. CW did a great job copying this adjustment. The Twelve X will have this too. Waiting for mine.
In that price range I prefer German brands like Sinn, Schaumburg, Damasko, Bruno Söhnle, Limes, Wempe and Junghans. Having said that the finish and design of CW look great. Superb review!!
i think I caught the CW bug and procured 3 of their watches, the trident c60 trident pro 300; the Twelve 40mm, and the c63 sealander elite (my favorite on a titanium brand). Absolutely love the quality, price point and mission. Only gripe is that the bracelets are scratch magnets, especially around the clasps. Good review.
Those are the 3 watches I like from the brand. All looks great, impossible to make colour decisions without seeing them. Why do you prefer the C63 Sealander and do you have the dragonfly?
i own a 'Claude valentini millennium sport' watch, I bought it about 20 years ago. There was an entire 'watchdog' feature on this watch, it was sold at car shows, with a 'reduced from £1500' tag. By the time watchdog got hold of it the gig was over, the rest ended up on ebay, I paid about £15 for it, and it has lasted 20 years and still looks ok. But it was a pathfinder for ali express sh*tters.
Nice review Mate! as always.. beautiful watch, i prefer 12 over the Sealander. Cant agree more on spending that kind of money. What do you think of Maen watches while compared to Chris Ward? Thanks again for all the great work you do. Cheers!!
Can’t beat gold polished Roman numerals that sparkle like jewels in the sunlight. Loving the sun ray dial man that pops!MAMACOO watches. What a beautiful subtle piece.
As I understand, the Christopher Ward logo/dial was influenced by copyright or legal claims up until recently and that's why the brand only settled on a basic logo in the last few years.
would love to see ya review some more gmts!!! - and for fun TSAR BOMBA watches see them online and where i vacationed saw them at a legit luxury jewelry shop😂
Nice comprehensive review. I would disagree about the tight screws and your tools not being the problem though. They probably used loctite to ensure a secure bracelet, so if you don’t go at it in the proper ways, and you don’t have quality tools, you’re undoubtedly going to strip the screws.
The same way that San Martin undercuts brands like Seiko and Tissot, Chris Ward is Longines quality for a grand or less. Perhaps even better - that microadjust butterfly clasp is a game changer. I've been happy with my Trident diver but I might have to finally pick up a new one...
I absolutely love Christopher Ward watches, I got the C1 Bel Canto in my personal collection now and I really love The Twelve but I want the tiffany blue dial on a titanium case and bracelet but they don't do it. If they did I would buy one immediately!
I will say this about CW. They make great watches, but their customer service is crap. Katie Howard, and Matthew Thomas who is the Operations Manager both don't do what they say they will do. The last month and half since I bought the CW C60 Atoll which is a great watch it's been nothing but a nightmare. Between computer glitches, email problems, and the fact both Katie and Matthew don't do a damn thing they say they will do. It's sad when a company like CW has HORRIBLE customer service, but a great watch. It makes that watch worthless. All I can remember when I look at the CW C60 Atoll Shark White is nothing but the absolute horrendous customer service I have received and continue to get. I will NEVER buy another CW watch again. Been collecting for 35 years, and currently have 423 watches in my collection, and I have never been treated like I have been at CW. Trust me I will go on an ad campaign to make sure this turns into a PR NIGHTMARE for CW. Period.
@@tynchytemper9618 I find it amazing how neurotypical people can add more meaning to a statement by using a different punctuation mark. Though, it does weaken the statement a bit.
With all due respect these are nice watches but it’s hard to ignore the homage nature (Rolex explorer ii and a Czapek antarctique) of them. The same goes for the mb&f inspired bel canto and new, moser perpetual moon homage, moon phase. Price is great for quality but lack of originality really hits hard for me.
So glad you pointed out the weird chamfering on the hour hand! It's awful and looks very odd in most lights. A big reason I sent the CW I bought back!!
You should have mentioned the SH21 movement. It is their in house caliber with 5 days power. It was only found in limited models, but now seems like they are trying to move it to flagship models. A huge game changer with this brand and even though not shown here, i think is very worth the mention.
My CW Trident Pro 300 was the first watch I bought with a screw down crown. Since then I've purchased a Phoibos Wave Master GMT. At about $400 retail I'm not going to bash the Phoibos for not being a $1000 watch, but I will say I had no idea how spoiled I was with the CW winding and threading. It's so easy and smooth and generally painless in comparison. I almost feel like I'm going to break my Phoibos with how rough it is by comparison.
My daily wearer is a CW Trident Elite 1000 titanium which is brilliant. Best timekeeping I’ve ever had and that includes various Rolex, Omega and Zenith. In two years I’ve only ever pulled out the crown to change date or from or to British summertime. Every now and then I compare the time on my watch and phone and get a feeling of satisfaction as they always agree.
@ Thanks. It’s looks really nice even though I don’t think I could bring myself to buy one. And yes I know that’s biased and stupid as the reputable Ali/Chinese watches with Japanese are probably equivalent quality to a microbrand costing twice the amount.
Thanks for the video, Ben. I love my Christopher Ward C60 Trident Pro. It is quite obviously top quality in every way. I paid $800 for it in 2015. As it came on a leather strap, I decided to purchase a bracelet from CW, but was told that the bracelets were sold out as the watch had been discontinued. Conversely, when my 1972 Seiko 6139 required extensive work, my Seiko watchmaker in North Vancouver Canada was able to source all required parts OEM from Seiko, including a crystal and bracelet links that needed to be replaced. As I never sell a watch, this made me question future purchases beyond the major brands as future value is sure to be impacted. My Seikos that I bought as a teenager in the 70s are now worth 10 times more than I paid for them. I just cannot see that level of future desirability from CW.
@@Yoshikaable You are correct. He did raise that topic, stating that watches should not be seen as investments. Based on my own experiences, I agreed with his observations.
Own a second hand 12 and I would say it’s very good for the price point. Much nicer than a PRX , it feels high quality like a more expensive watch with really 1st class finishing. The only improvement would be if the Steel models had the SW300 movement like the titanium, the slimmer movement and better quality of the SW300 would raise the bar. It’s definitely higher quality than the lower grade Swatch group such as Tissot, Hamilton, Certina and Mido ,and close to Longines.
@@johnholkham2420 second hand is a great idea! I think the prx is also a better buy second hand as well. Perhaps I just prefer second hand in general? It gets the first scratches out of the way
Most of us don't care about future value of a watch. I never have and only care about the pleasure of wearing one now. But if you do, then you should be buying a big brand: omega, Seiko, IWC etc
CW 12 shits on Tissot PRX.. The Trident Hombre dive watch from CW is even more amazing. CW ranks right up there in bang for the $$$ in the entry luxury segment..
Finally someone that said it ! I have quite a few Seiko and Hamilton watches, which are around the same money as a Christopher Ward ... however, the name stopped me buying one like since they've started the company 😅 therefore I don't have any Christopher Ward... and probably won't buy one, although I respect their built quality and styling.
Sizing the screwdriver accurately is imperative if you don't want it to slip. The screwdriver you've used was quite a bit too small in order to provide a precise fit and, therefore, was more prone to slip.
Maurice Lacroix, Frederique Constant, Baume & Mercier, Jaeger-LeCoultre, H.Moser & Cie, Audemars Piguet, Patek Philippe, Vacheron Constantin, A. Lange und Sohne are all named after individuals. Top three luxury brands are named after individuals.
The best review of CW watches I have ever seen. Detailed, well thought, informing. Thank you Ben. 👍 I think either Hublot or Cartier put the humble SW200 in some very expensive watches.
We have to consider that when yo buy the watch you also buy customer support and ease of interaction with the company. CW provides "60/60 guarantee" which is great. Also their coustomer service is very responsive.
With regard to the price. I believe their lowest range watches approach the $600 range. As far as quality. I got a C63 Sealander 36 about a year ago. One of the most well made watches I've had the pleasure to have in my hands. All the tolerances, finishes, everything is just right how it should be. And when I wear it I can't stop looking at it. A true antidote to buyers remorse.
I appreciate the suggestions, but the screwdriver shot at 20:56 is for illustrative b-roll purposes only. Both bracelets were sized off-camera with correctly sized screwdrivers, so no need to keep telling me 😅 no chance I'm risking scratching these with a camera dangling over my shoulder haha
Very good. Was about to say the same. Great review. But damn, I now want the 12 instead of PRX 35. Cheers.
Can you please try Swiss Alpine Military by Grovana? They have nice looking watches in the 150/200 range, are swiss made (the definition of swiss made by swiss law is very messed up btw) and looks like a real banger (ronda movements)
I'm glad I saw this comment, it was rather unfortunate 😁
LOL, I appreciate the clarification!
If you have issues with tight screws in a watch bracelet:
1. Detach the bracelet and place the watch head somewhere safe.
2. Use a small butane “pencil” torch to heat the screw for 10-20 seconds. Alternatively try a heat gun on medium heat. If you don’t have either of these, you can try heating with a hair dryer or submerge just the bracelet in boiling water for a minute or two as an alternative.
3. Use a heat-resistant glove to securely hold the bracelet while working on it.
4. Apply firm downward pressure and turn counterclockwise. Avoid applying too much force at once, as this can damage the screw or bracelet. If your hand starts shaking from exertion, stop to prevent slipping.
5. If the screw doesn’t loosen, repeat the heating process and try again.
6. If the screw unwinds smoothly, it was likely over-tightened. If you feel a “snap” followed by easy unwinding, this means a thread locker (eg Loctite) was used and the manufacturer probably over did it on that particular screw (grrr @ Omega).
7. High-strength thread locker is rarely used in watch bracelets, but if you still can’t remove the screw after heating and applying reasonable force, consider seeking help from a professional watchmaker to avoid damage.
8. If you don’t own any of the tools mentioned above and boiling water doesn’t work, purchase a butane jet torch (around $10) from a hardware or hobby store. A disposable jet lighter can work in a pinch but may heat your hand uncomfortably if used for too long.
23:35 - It is worth adding that the titanium versions of the Twelve use SW-300 with COSC rather than SW-200 so this 500 quid upgrade is not only dial and case material but also the movement.
I've had my C65 Aquitaine for about a year now, and honestly, I've held it in comparison to Longines in the $3-$4K range, some older Tudors, all in hand. The finishing is pretty much up to snuff with watches in the $3-$4K range. The brushing is very consistent and clean, the Sapphire is terrific, the bracelet is rock solid and the bezel action is to die for.
Recently having got a 36mm sealander gmt - I'm very pleased with it. Nicely designed, running well, and I expect it to be my go-to when I am not wearing a dress watch or beater.
That’s the lowest-priced butterfly clasp micro-adjustment option. It’s very similar to the one Vacheron uses both in the Overseas and FiftySix lines.
What are some examples of more “expensive” butterfly clasp micro/on-the-fly adjustments?
I have the CW C60 Pro 600 and absolutely love it. The difference is I waited until they done a sale and snapped mine at £600! Which was a huge saving on the RRP of £1200 at the time of purchase at the beginning of this year. My advice to anyone is sign up to the CW mail list and you get an invite to their private sales direct from CW. They even sell the like new returns watches at even more money off.
I've gone from disliking their dials and finding their branding unattractive to absolutely loving what they do now! Their current logo is really nice. I'm particularly fond of The Twelve-how could I not be with that dial? And the C65 Dune, the C65 Dune is just so nice, I've come close to buying it.
I do wish they still made quartz watches. Sure, The Twelve is fine as an automatic, but the C65 Dune would be ideal with a robust quartz movement. They wouldn't even need to make it cheaper; just offer a high-quality quartz movement in the C65 and sell it at the same price. If only Citizen could sell them a rock solid modern movement :D
C65 Dune is great. Put a better SW movement with higher power reserve and I will spend my money.
they make quartz. they just made a qz chronograph.
@@JacekS406 It's a cool watch for sure! I've not bought one because of the movement too.
@@cunawarit great watch. I just need something with a better power reserve. Longines spirit 37 looks like my next watch.
Got my Dune C65 and I like it a lot but that Twelve in 36mm is calling my name.
Omg literally the first review of a CW when the reviewer has demonstrated the quick release bracelet. Legend mate
This is not a review, it’s a slick ad.
Funny how people keep calling CW a micro brand when they have their in house movement and are bigger than 90% of Switzerland watch makers.
ain’t they all 😂
@@mamba101 literally every review that is positive
I have a C65 Dune with the white sand dial and oak leather strap. I absolutely love the watch, the piece is so clean and feels very premium. The 38mm size hits the sweet spot too.
I really love your thorough long-form content-like this extensive review!
If I might ask, would you perhaps be open to adding chapter markers to videos such as this one? I think that that could really go a long way.
No, sorry.
He’d probably obsess over whether the chapter markers are perfectly aligned
CW and Farer are doing great things at this price. I'm very pleased with my C60 Trident 300
Yeah Farer's recent designs have also impressed me, maybe take a look at them one day if they make something affordable enough
C60 Pro Diver 300..
What a Watch..!!!
Got my eye on the C60 Pro 300 Bronze.
@@BensWatchClub Their 36mm three-hander should fit you a treat, but yes - pricey at ~GBP 900
@@samnova450 .. Yeaah ..!!
Love your review as always! Not much of a CW fan, but I still watched every second of it
Thanks so much. I'm not a watch collector, but I enjoy the attention to detail and production quality of your videos, and your clear enthusiasm.
I absolutely love my white C63 Sealander GMT. Gets way more wristtime than my Longines HydroConquest as it is so much more comfortable to wear. The microadjustment on the Bader clasp works wonders. And as I love the white-orange color scheme of the Explorer II but couldn't live with either the diameter or the price, I love the slight inspiration CW took, but still making a watch of their own. Fantastic watch for the price.
Also to note they have yearly sales through a link provided with signing up to their newsletter. When they do have these sales they can be upto 50% off and there is great value to be had even on new models. Back in 2018 I picked up the CW C60 Trident quartz for £175 on sale and now that watch on ebay is around £300/£350 depending on condition. I can honestly say the quality is incredible for the price point with a hardcore community of watch collectors. If anyone is considering a CW I would highly recommend
I think a Brand like CW deserves the support of the watch Comunity as a whole. I don't own one, and I haven't found one I love yet same as yourself, but I will suggest it to anyone who's looking to buy a "high end" watch in hopes they find one they like. When CW builds a watch I like I will absolutely buy it. the 3x the cost of the watch is a respectable pricing point that doesn't take into account R&D, corprate overhead, marketing, ect, and then there are initiatives the company supports like producing products with eco friendly materials. The company cares about it's customers, it's comunity, and the watch world as a whole.
Great to see an update from you Ben, I've missed your insights! You're one of my favourite watch TH-camrs
Aaaaaahhh did you miss your little bald buddy? 🥰
@@OHJAJOH Yep, sure did
The friction micro-adjust is on some vacheron watches. But that's a wayyyy different price point. I love it though
Just a note on the 12 Ti. In addition to the titanium case it has an SW300-1 COSC in the back. Quite a big upgrade. Also, the GMTs are the SW330-2.
Finally a watchable CW review. Thanks!
Love all my CW watches. All worth the premium.
I remember you saying you were going to do a review of Royal Orient in your 20 best Orient watches video, and I’d be interested in seeing how they stack up against CW
I've been interested in CW for a while now, but couldn't justify a watch at this price range. I think my mind is changing though - I'd love one of their Moonphase watches!
Woah, you’ve blew up mate. I subbed when you reviewed a whit dial Casio about 4/5 years ago but not been as active in the watch sphere as of late. Congrats and all the best !
Thank you for making high quality videos!Love amzwatch ’s watches
The thing about CW talking in “cutting out the middle man” language is that they were the first brand to sell watches directly to consumers online twenty years ago; they were the first to genuinely use 3x markups (which they’d carried across from years in standard retail at ELC) and not have a distribution network cost, and hence no middle man. All the scam brands of recent years have since repeated “middle man” and “affordable luxury” but using crappy drop shipped stuff. Meanwhile CW are a genuine British/Swiss manufacturer with their own in-house calibre in the SH-21, plus the JJ and FS modules for Sellita movements. Whilst they started off as a generic micro brand they’re now a true independent watchmaker with some incredible pieces: the Bel Canto and their recent Moonphase for example, whilst the finishing on the Twelve X is outstanding.
I’ve never understood people who don’t like watches with people’s names on. What about Roger Smith, Philippe Dufour, etc?
I own one CW: their quartz Valour chrono. It’s awesome. I’m so happy to see a usable quartz chrono that doesn’t use the ridiculous and illegible VK mechaquartz movement. I also love the Valour’s 39mm size. It’s a huge win for me.
Thanks, I didn't know they made quartz chronometers.
For me personally, the BellCanto is the one to get. All of their other models can be attained similalrly from other brands at a better price. Also their prices have indeed been going up, so I expect that to continue as time goes by and I predict their desire is to eventually situate themselves in the upper tier/luxury price tier.
The Bel Canto is a stunning time piece 😍. And that’s one CW watch that will gradually go up in price over time.
I have to agree with you !
@@lukeplayer187Not as long as you can order them new
21:02 The screwdriver blade shown in this shot is too small. It should fill the length and width of the slot in the screw. Using too small of a driver will damage the screws in the way that was shown here. I hope this helps someone in the future.
20:56 If you have issues with tight screws in a watch bracelet:
1. Detach the bracelet and place the watch head somewhere safe.
2. Use a small butane “pencil” torch to heat the screw for 10-20 seconds. Alternatively try a heat gun on medium heat. If you don’t have either of these, you can try heating with a hair dryer or submerge just the bracelet in boiling water for a minute or two as an alternative.
3. Use a heat-resistant glove to securely hold the bracelet while working on it.
4. Apply firm downward pressure and turn counterclockwise. Avoid applying too much force at once, as this can damage the screw or bracelet. If your hand starts shaking from exertion, stop to prevent slipping.
5. If the screw doesn’t loosen, repeat the heating process and try again.
6. If the screw unwinds smoothly, it was likely over-tightened. If you feel a “snap” followed by easy unwinding, this means a thread locker (eg Loctite) was used and the manufacturer probably over did it on that particular screw (grrr @ Omega).
7. High-strength thread locker is rarely used in watch bracelets, but if you still can’t remove the screw after heating and applying reasonable force, consider seeking help from a professional watchmaker to avoid damage.
Your usual very comprehensive and well considered review. of what are decent watches. I own several.. There has been a move by some "reviewers" to place this brand in a tier they can't genuinely aspire to. Paid shills?? Who knows, but I don't agree with them. It's been a long time since they introduced their in house movement, but it hasn't been widely used or developed for more uses by the brand. It's a bit thick as is so would definitely need work to put CW in the "luxury" class. They've come a long way but still aren't competing with the big boys. Perhaps as you imply they aren't really trying, not wanting to venture too far along the flat part of the price/quality curve.
Very good detailed review. Thank you for these details.
Thanks Ben. Comprehensive review. I have a CW chronograph, which is one of my favourites. They occasionally have 'real' sales with worthwhile discounts on end if line and ex demo watches. Thats how I bought mine, with around 30% discount. Sale products dont hang around tho :-)
My only historical beef with CW has been the branding and logo on the dials. I'm really glad to see they've addressed this issue because it now means, when at some point in the future I once more have discretionary funds to buy a watch (and who knows when that will be), CW will definitely be in the mix. I really like their bronze divers, for example, but a nice GMT would also be a great choice.
This has probably been asked a number of times but, if so, I couldn't see it: What is the make of the case back opening tool?
I tried to zoom in on a screenshot and enhance the brand name but just couldn't work out what it is. It seems to end with "No.5/88" or "No.3/88" but I can't find those online either. Any clues gratefully received. :-)
An adjustable butterfly clasp has been around on top other brands for ages.
The CW CEO said it when The Twelve X was launched.
I got my Sealander C63 a couple years before the brand popped, but it was before they changed their logo! Instead of the snazzy emblem, mine just says “Christoper Ward”. It’s the only thing I’d change tho, it has been just such a pleasure at that $1k point.
Ben,
Christopher Ward applies light-grade thread-lock to the bracelet screws, like Rolex. You must heat the bracelet in warm water for around five minutes to soften the material, in order to back out the screws.
You forced them, therefore stripping the screwheads. 👍🏼
Does this apply to Tudor also? Jeweller I got my Ranger bracelet adjusted really struggled with the links.
It is quite possible. Luxury watches with screw type adjustments may all likely use a thread lock.
The VC Fifty Six and Overseas both have the same pull micro adjustment on their clasps.
I own a Sealander and love it. Think at the time it cost me around £700 on the bracelet, wish I had waited as mine has the old Christopher Ward logo and not the twin flags which I much prefer. I love the 12 and really fancy the Ti in the darker green, best save my pennies. Great review Ben. 👍
if i'm not mistakened, the butterfly microadjust clasp, was seen on the new twelve X that came out recently
Indeed, hopefully coming to more lines soon too!
My son bought one of their chronometers that was wildly out. He sent it back and it came back exactly the same. On the other hand he has an older CW and it’s his favourite watch.
Comparing my "The Twelve Ti" to a PRX, the CW is definitely a step up in movement as well as finishing quality and materials
Respect! I really like your camera work. Good job🙌
Christopher Ward is a bit all over the place with me. Some of their models are not what I’m interested in what-so-ever, but others like the C65 Aquitaine are calling my name. I think you’ve hit the nail on the head here - nothing that’s mind blowing but extremely solid value for money.
I felt the same for a long time. Seemed great if u wanted that true next step towards luxury as opposed to 300-500$ range. Until they introduced their c63 sh21 (in house, 5 day indicator, cosc certified, small seconds caliber) I instantly pulled the trigger on one for $2100 and im properly blown away at the value in this watch.
the next best thing is oris caliber 400 and they charge 3.5-4k usd for that.
Great comment mate I got a Christopher ward 38 diver. Love it but I think they’ve dived in quickly and had a mixed bag , but the quality is good, movement lower end what a lot of watches use but on the whole they have chucked a banger in a oil refinery
There’s no brand where you’re going to love every watch in their range. They need to cater for different tastes. I’ve a C60 Elite 1000, but have a thing about integrated bracelets and would never consider the Twelve Sport. I like the dials, but no integrated bracelet will ever make it onto my wrist.
I pre ordered my CW Twelve when it came out in it’s bigger form.
Still loving it and rocking it almost every day.
The fit and finish really rivals more premium brands, like my BB58 from Tudor.
Btw, you should give a shot à their new revision of the Moonglow C1 ! Truely amazing piece
I appreciate your thoroughness.
I don't think there is any way to see these before you buy them right? I like the look of the Mulberry but I would like to see it in person especially as it's only available in a 36.
You have to go to maidenhead
They have put in a conscious effort to hit a ton of shows and meetups (Red Bar etc). They are definitely making the rounds. They do have the 60/60 as well. They will pay return shipping and full refund if you order it and don't like it. It gets a little tricky if you are outside the UK getting back import duty and taxes but it can be done. Also note 60/60 means that you look it over and don't like it. Not size the bracelet and wear it for three weeks then declare you don't like it. You wouldn't get a full refund in this case.
Thanks @@RichKovars
CW watches are great for the price... I've got a C65 Supercompressor and a C1 Bel Canto, and both are made exceptionally well.
Cheers for the review Ben! QUESTION: there's been another UK brand I've had my eye on, i.e Omologato, and more specifically their Panamericana model as seen on Wheeler Dealers. Any chance you'd be able to get your hands on any of their stuff for review? Their watches usually go for under £600.
CW have really set a good standard , i do like their watches .
Maybe pull the trigger on that dragon fly blue one .So tempting .
I bought a C63 Sealander back in April. It’s a beautiful watch, with very high levels of finishing across the dial and a comfortable bracelet. My only complaint is that the movement lasts maybe 13 hours off wrist, as opposed to the stated 36. It often will stop working if I take it off when I get home from work and then put it back on the next morning.
That's crazy maybe you have a problem with the main spring slipping??
That does sound like a fault to be fair
christopher ward are amazing, i have rolex, omega, and Sinn the Dartmouth v1 i have is perfection
Did you apply heat to the screws? I suspect the use Loctite, which is understandable but annoying.
Can anyone tell me where I might find a bracelet collar for a Citizen Garrison AT2480-57L? Or if I can even buy them at all.
I’ve owned a CW black dial sapphire for years, I would say it’s one of my best watches purchases I’ve done.
Adjustable link first in the industry ?? Take a look at the Vacheron 5500. CW did a great job copying this adjustment. The Twelve X will have this too. Waiting for mine.
In that price range I prefer German brands like Sinn, Schaumburg, Damasko, Bruno Söhnle, Limes, Wempe and Junghans. Having said that the finish and design of CW look great. Superb review!!
i think I caught the CW bug and procured 3 of their watches, the trident c60 trident pro 300; the Twelve 40mm, and the c63 sealander elite (my favorite on a titanium brand). Absolutely love the quality, price point and mission. Only gripe is that the bracelets are scratch magnets, especially around the clasps. Good review.
Good choices !
Those are the 3 watches I like from the brand. All looks great, impossible to make colour decisions without seeing them. Why do you prefer the C63 Sealander and do you have the dragonfly?
That strerch bracelet is very similar to that on my zodiac super seawolf. Very helpful!!
You had a shot of a Wise in there. Did you feature them? Looked around and could find your words and take on them..
CW really does do very nice work for the money. I have a Trident Pro 300, and it’s basically the cheapest watch I own, but it is so nice.
I would very much like a CW watch but i'm really not sold on the 2824 / sw200 movements, they need to get a better movement to finish off the package.
C63 GMT in White the Black&Orange Rubber Strap is a killer combo. Never knew I could love it that much
i own a 'Claude valentini millennium sport' watch, I bought it about 20 years ago. There was an entire 'watchdog' feature on this watch, it was sold at car shows, with a 'reduced from £1500' tag. By the time watchdog got hold of it the gig was over, the rest ended up on ebay, I paid about £15 for it, and it has lasted 20 years and still looks ok. But it was a pathfinder for ali express sh*tters.
That’s put all the doubters and experts getting new jobs 😂👍
Hello! I was thinking of buying Nendo’s (Oki Sato) Buckle watch. Fo you have any experience with that watch?
Nice review Mate! as always.. beautiful watch, i prefer 12 over the Sealander. Cant agree more on spending that kind of money. What do you think of Maen watches while compared to Chris Ward? Thanks again for all the great work you do. Cheers!!
Can’t beat gold polished Roman numerals that sparkle like jewels in the sunlight. Loving the sun ray dial man that pops!MAMACOO watches. What a beautiful subtle piece.
As I understand, the Christopher Ward logo/dial was influenced by copyright or legal claims up until recently and that's why the brand only settled on a basic logo in the last few years.
would love to see ya review some more gmts!!! - and for fun TSAR BOMBA watches see them online and where i vacationed saw them at a legit luxury jewelry shop😂
Nice comprehensive review. I would disagree about the tight screws and your tools not being the problem though. They probably used loctite to ensure a secure bracelet, so if you don’t go at it in the proper ways, and you don’t have quality tools, you’re undoubtedly going to strip the screws.
The same way that San Martin undercuts brands like Seiko and Tissot, Chris Ward is Longines quality for a grand or less. Perhaps even better - that microadjust butterfly clasp is a game changer. I've been happy with my Trident diver but I might have to finally pick up a new one...
I had one of their divers years ago and it was very good. I think ditching the name logo was a good move.
Thanks for the review, it will help me make some decisions soon...
I absolutely love Christopher Ward watches, I got the C1 Bel Canto in my personal collection now and I really love The Twelve but I want the tiffany blue dial on a titanium case and bracelet but they don't do it. If they did I would buy one immediately!
I will say this about CW. They make great watches, but their customer service is crap. Katie Howard, and Matthew Thomas who is the Operations Manager both don't do what they say they will do. The last month and half since I bought the CW C60 Atoll which is a great watch it's been nothing but a nightmare. Between computer glitches, email problems, and the fact both Katie and Matthew don't do a damn thing they say they will do. It's sad when a company like CW has HORRIBLE customer service, but a great watch. It makes that watch worthless. All I can remember when I look at the CW C60 Atoll Shark White is nothing but the absolute horrendous customer service I have received and continue to get. I will NEVER buy another CW watch again. Been collecting for 35 years, and currently have 423 watches in my collection, and I have never been treated like I have been at CW. Trust me I will go on an ad campaign to make sure this turns into a PR NIGHTMARE for CW. Period.
423 watches Jesus buddy slow down
Their customer service has been perfect with me?
@@tynchytemper9618 I find it amazing how neurotypical people can add more meaning to a statement by using a different punctuation mark. Though, it does weaken the statement a bit.
I have had exemplary customer service, on three separate occasions.
With all due respect these are nice watches but it’s hard to ignore the homage nature (Rolex explorer ii and a Czapek antarctique) of them. The same goes for the mb&f inspired bel canto and new, moser perpetual moon homage, moon phase. Price is great for quality but lack of originality really hits hard for me.
So glad you pointed out the weird chamfering on the hour hand!
It's awful and looks very odd in most lights.
A big reason I sent the CW I bought back!!
You should have mentioned the SH21 movement. It is their in house caliber with 5 days power. It was only found in limited models, but now seems like they are trying to move it to flagship models. A huge game changer with this brand and even though not shown here, i think is very worth the mention.
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@@atianfirebolt8125 say what you mean. how is it not in house?
Best review I’ve ever watched.
Hey Ben, I really liked the look with the bald head. you shave with razor or hairclippers? I'm thinking about doing the same.
My CW Trident Pro 300 was the first watch I bought with a screw down crown. Since then I've purchased a Phoibos Wave Master GMT. At about $400 retail I'm not going to bash the Phoibos for not being a $1000 watch, but I will say I had no idea how spoiled I was with the CW winding and threading. It's so easy and smooth and generally painless in comparison. I almost feel like I'm going to break my Phoibos with how rough it is by comparison.
I bought a CW C63 Sealander with the tan leather band and I couldn't be happier. ✊🏼
18:29 is there a scrape on the side
My daily wearer is a CW Trident Elite 1000 titanium which is brilliant. Best timekeeping I’ve ever had and that includes various Rolex, Omega and Zenith. In two years I’ve only ever pulled out the crown to change date or from or to British summertime. Every now and then I compare the time on my watch and phone and get a feeling of satisfaction as they always agree.
5:45 What is this watch?
Looks like a San Martin
@ Thanks. It’s looks really nice even though I don’t think I could bring myself to buy one. And yes I know that’s biased and stupid as the reputable Ali/Chinese watches with Japanese are probably equivalent quality to a microbrand costing twice the amount.
The technical term for this particular ponited hour hand hand is an 'alpha'-hand.
Thanks for the video, Ben. I love my Christopher Ward C60 Trident Pro. It is quite obviously top quality in every way. I paid $800 for it in 2015. As it came on a leather strap, I decided to purchase a bracelet from CW, but was told that the bracelets were sold out as the watch had been discontinued. Conversely, when my 1972 Seiko 6139 required extensive work, my Seiko watchmaker in North Vancouver Canada was able to source all required parts OEM from Seiko, including a crystal and bracelet links that needed to be replaced.
As I never sell a watch, this made me question future purchases beyond the major brands as future value is sure to be impacted. My Seikos that I bought as a teenager in the 70s are now worth 10 times more than I paid for them. I just cannot see that level of future desirability from CW.
He says in this video that this is not a watch with a good resale value
@@Yoshikaable You are correct. He did raise that topic, stating that watches should not be seen as investments. Based on my own experiences, I agreed with his observations.
Own a second hand 12 and I would say it’s very good for the price point. Much nicer than a PRX , it feels high quality like a more expensive watch with really 1st class finishing. The only improvement would be if the Steel models had the SW300 movement like the titanium, the slimmer movement and better quality of the SW300 would raise the bar. It’s definitely higher quality than the lower grade Swatch group such as Tissot, Hamilton, Certina and Mido ,and close to Longines.
@@johnholkham2420 second hand is a great idea! I think the prx is also a better buy second hand as well. Perhaps I just prefer second hand in general? It gets the first scratches out of the way
Most of us don't care about future value of a watch. I never have and only care about the pleasure of wearing one now. But if you do, then you should be buying a big brand: omega, Seiko, IWC etc
Waited so long for your video, love from 🇮🇳
Indians unite!
CW 12 shits on Tissot PRX.. The Trident Hombre dive watch from CW is even more amazing. CW ranks right up there in bang for the $$$ in the entry luxury segment..
@benswatchclub what you saying about Maen watches they are just below 1000£ ?
Finally someone that said it ! I have quite a few Seiko and Hamilton watches, which are around the same money as a Christopher Ward ... however, the name stopped me buying one like since they've started the company 😅 therefore I don't have any Christopher Ward... and probably won't buy one, although I respect their built quality and styling.
Sizing the screwdriver accurately is imperative if you don't want it to slip. The screwdriver you've used was quite a bit too small in order to provide a precise fit and, therefore, was more prone to slip.
Maurice Lacroix, Frederique Constant, Baume & Mercier, Jaeger-LeCoultre, H.Moser & Cie, Audemars Piguet, Patek Philippe, Vacheron Constantin, A. Lange und Sohne are all named after individuals. Top three luxury brands are named after individuals.
Great video. Thank you.
The blue dial C60 Pro 300 Bronze has been on my wish list for a while now.
11:00 has been done before, not sure if Cartier, VC or JLC though
Finally we can see the 36mm Versions on smaller wrists. The Sealander looks great on you.
The best review of CW watches I have ever seen. Detailed, well thought, informing. Thank you Ben. 👍
I think either Hublot or Cartier put the humble SW200 in some very expensive watches.
We have to consider that when yo buy the watch you also buy customer support and ease of interaction with the company. CW provides "60/60 guarantee" which is great. Also their coustomer service is very responsive.
With regard to the price. I believe their lowest range watches approach the $600 range. As far as quality. I got a C63 Sealander 36 about a year ago. One of the most well made watches I've had the pleasure to have in my hands. All the tolerances, finishes, everything is just right how it should be. And when I wear it I can't stop looking at it. A true antidote to buyers remorse.