Been wanting to make a batman equivalent of what I did for my superman video so here it is... Why batman works!! Making this made me fall back in love with the dark knight, the existential struggle, the inner demons, its all great fun to research, especially the psychology side of it which informed why he is the way he is, hopefully you guys dig the video !!
Great video bro it reminded why I love batman so much. The will power, dedication, moral code, and the choice to see the good in people in a cruel world.
Amazing video dude. Something I'm never a fan is how some people nowadays portray Batman as just a "Punisher wannabe", a angst vigilante, but don't get his true core, what make such a great character: His compassion and dedication. The fact he suffered such trauma in childhood but was able to convert this into his motivation to become better person, to help others and stick to his values despite being tempt by villains like the Joker.
Batman is the most versatile superhero, he can be interpreted in so many ways. His villains are brilliant and sometimes relatable. His city is like a living being. The atmosphere is unique and fitting. That's why Batman is so iconic.
I love both Batman and Superman, sometimes for different reasons, others for the same. Batman inspires me to be strong, Superman inspire me to be good, and both inspire me to never give up.
Superman’s philosophy promoting ideals such as truth, justice, patriotism may seem lost on us but the truth is....... we need him more than ever right now
Exactly we need to unify people not break them apart We need to learn to do good things not because it makes us feel better but because it’s the right thing to do
@@Lite727 I am not an American so Superman teaches me something different.For me supes Is what people should be like ya know not being an asshole and being kind to each other.I remember a comic where he talked a girl out of suicide.
No, Both of them aspire to be something great, Batman while yes he has gone through a lot, and has turned his pain into a tool Superman himself is also perfectly attainable, not in the sense of power but in a sense of character and believing that there can be a better tomorrow, Both of these heroes truce to strive to be more despite their flaws Not trying to gaslight just stating my opinion 😊
Of all Batman aspects, I think his conflicts with his rogues gallery, are the one that best represent what makes Batman such a great character, since the rogues tecnically are just like Batman, victims of trauma and tragedy, working as dark reflection of what Batman could had become if he had taken a different path after his parents death. When Batman fight them, he is fighting against his own inner demons. These similarites can also be the reason why Batman always choose to help them instead of killing them, because he knows the rogues are just traumatized as he is and, just like he did for Robin and other bat family members, he wants to help his enemies overcome their trauma and become better people.
@John Onnembo That's a very great ideia. Maxwell Lord is also a villain who could work to bring the league together, although I have one suggestion : Besides the Lord and Talia you could also add Amanda Waller, establishing that the three work with project Cadmus (or A.R.G.U.S) in developing the OMAC project as way to protect humanity from the increase super human population, as they fear that this new super humans might one day turn on humanity. However is Maxwell scheme and the league's actions that makes them realize that they need heroes like the Justice League to protect them from evil like Maxwell Lord and the OMACs, creating a better relationship between the Justice League and the goverment, just like the league would have learned to work together.
@John Onnembo The acts would be simple Act : 1Establish the members of the league, having them dealig with some Omac infiltrators, who start to frame them for crimes they didn't commit, turning people against the heroes. Eventually they all are reunite by J'onn who reveals to them the truth about OMACs and their plan to eliminate the heroes. Act 2 : Showcase the heroes discovering that the OMACs have information about them due to Batman's invention, Brother Eye, causing them to feel betrayed by the dark knight. Meanwhile, Flash (Barry Allen) and Hal, who would have a buddy cop partnership during the story, would discover about Maxwell Lord's past and that he is the one who hack Brother Eye and is controling the OMACs wanting to kill not just the heroes but anyone who possess the meta gene, having the potential to be a meta human in the future. Eventually the members of the league are able to understant each other better, specially Superman and Batman and Wonder Woman and Aquaman (who would have at first a rivalry due to a complicate story between the amazons and the atlanteans). Act 3 : While Superman, Green Lantern and J'onn go to space to face Brother Eye, the other members of the league attack Maxwell Lord's base, to shut down a force field and allow the heroes in space to destroy brother eye. In the end they succedd and Brother Eye is destroyed and Maxwell Lord is arrested with the goverment now having a better relationship with the meta humans. The movie ends with the heroes reuniting in old building that Batman bought (the future Hall of Justice) and decide to work together, becoming the Justice League. Post credit scene : Would take place in Apokolips, with Desaad informing Darkseid about the birth of the Justice League. He would ask if he thinks the heroes will be a problem for them and Desaad will deny, claiming that no one is match for him. The scene ends with Darkseid saying that the Justice League are welcome to try to face him, with his eyes glowing like fire.
@John Onnembo Oh yeah. I forgot. She would be the one who would have helped Lord steal from Batman, wanting to avenge her father after being defeated by the hero in the Worlds Finest movie. However, after realize Maxwell scheme she would betray him, saying that while she may seek the same goals as her father, she doesn't like to use his methods.
@John Onnembo They would still equipament from STAR Labs, which later it would be revealed is just make a nanochip weapon that will allow Maxwell Lord to kill all those who has the potential to become a meta human.
@John Onnembo Amanda Waller would help the league during the fight revealing the location of Maxwell Lord's hideout, and Alfred and Wally would have cameos in the first act, helping establish the heroes supporting cast and make clear that the heroes are fighting not just to save the planet but also the people they care.
On the subject of Batman’s Robins, the biggest factor people keep overlooking is that Batman never coerces these kids into becoming Robin- exactly the opposite! They were all driven, and obsessed with vengeance BEFORE Batman took them in (with maybe the exception of Jason Todd). In other words, without Batman’s guidance, each of those kids would have been hitting the streets confronting criminals ANYWAY.
True. Everyone needs that one person to trust and rely on unconditionally. That one person we can express our feelings once in a while when things get hard as well. That is Alfred. Batman / Bruce Wayne can only pretend so much at some point he needs someone to open up about the burdens of being Batman / Bruce Wayne
Not necessarily because he doesn't have Alfred in the Comics Right Now. Why he works is that he can overcome great feats for a mortal man. BATMAN is best when he up against the ropes.
Batman has many things going for him: 1) He looks cool. Batman is the most aesthetically comic/fiction character. 2) His universe. Gotham, Batcave, Wayne Enteprises. You can make a storyline out of any of those. 3) The villains. Joker is as popular as Batman. But after Joker you also have Scarecrow, the Riddler, the Penguin, Poison Ivy. Again, you can make stories out of any of those villains and make it good. 4) The comic stories. No other comic character has so many good storylines: Year One, The long halloween, Hush, In the court of owls, Dark Night Rises, JLA Tower of Babel, etc. 5) Great movies. The Michael Keaton movies were the catalyst of the superhero movie. Then you have the Nolan trilogy which are just great movies that happen to feature Batman. Sure there are many Batman movie duds out there, but the good ones are really great. 6) Video games. The Batman Arkham video games are iconic at this point. 7) Batman animated series. Any kids that watched this in the 90’s became an instant Batman fan. That’s all I can think of. Some may say Batman’s relatability, but I disagree. Batman is not relatable. He is a billionaire wealthy man that can afford to be a vigilante.
4:11 You've said multiple times now that Batman/Bruce Wayne doesn't put his money to more useful things like charity. But he *does* donate vast sums to various charity and public works projects. He even has a work program for former criminals to help them get jobs and live normal lives. The fact that he's somehow able to do that *as well as* beat criminals up at night is ridiculous but it's part of the character.
@@Shittyrapper You're both right. We've seen Bruce Wayne pour millions, if not billions of dollars, into Gotham's infrastructure, healthcare, education, etc. Think Leslie Thompkins' clinic, reconstruction after No Man's Land or Zero Year. But he usually spends his first year or two (pre-Robin) much angrier and more violent. More obsessed with vengeance, as you noted, and punishing criminals rather than helping people as Bruce Wayne
@@ShittyrapperI do agree with your statement where in the beginning he is not great at doing charity work but an interesting flip side is that many of the rich people in Gotham and those in charge don't want gotham to get better and many actively intentionally make gotham worse cause if Gotham improves then people start looking into other less serious problems such as corruption and rooting out criminals within businesses and government do Gotham is such an awful city fully intentionally so I believe it definitely takes both Batman working on the city and Bruce doing massive charity work for Gotham to ever improve ( amendment to my statement by less serious problems I mean compared to nukes and supervillains who can single handedly destroy the city also the living conditions in Gotham make it so the people are so focused on survival that they aren't gonna speak up to the crime lords who own their homes and every business they use and often times own all jobs within gotham
Also the fact that he is a regular human being without superpowers and that he can get hurt, we can all relate to that rather than being a god like alien from another planet or the victim of a radio active spider bite. He’s who he is because he used the worst moment of his life to drive his ambition for good and to bring justice to those who can’t fend for themselves, he puts the hours in to train and improve his intellectual, physical& combat skills. Always be yourself unless you can be Batman . . . then always be Batman
I love the line from “The Dark knight” : “you thought we could be decent men in an INDECENT TIME” Pretty much wraps up what we love about him. He is individualism and integrity personified, against a sea of evil dragging him down.
One thing I love about batman is how he represents the virtue of fighting even is defeat is inevitable. If Year One and the Long Halloween are treated as Batman's start then Gotham began as a city with a Mafia problem and evolved into a surreal and horrific city despite (or perhaps because of) Batman. Despite this, his crusade continues despite that he probably is aware that there is no way that he can return Gotham to even to what is was during year one.
He is compelling because he is one of the most mature superheroes. The emotions that caused his birth - loss, grief, guilt, pain - are shared by every single human being at some point in our lives (or several). As a concept, he doesn't shy away from deep notions of trauma, suffering, introspection and the almost incapacitating urge to overcome your shadow self and use it for something positive, that gives your life purpose.
@John Onnembo I think it could look something like this Act 1 - It would establish Batman and his status quo. There would be a scene where Bruce goes to Falcone's party, meeting the mob boss as well Selina Kyle, establishing their romance, and Harvey Dent, who would be Bruce's childhood friend. Later there would be a murdere in the party and the only clue left would be a riddle, calling the police and Batman attention to find out who is this Riddler killer. Meanwhile there would also be a sub plot about Tim Drake seeing Batman in action and inspiring to become like him. Act 2 - After chasing the riddler, Batman would be knock out but saved by Tim, who takes him to the Batcave revealing he deduce his identity. The two would team up to find the riddler, whose actions are causing tensions in the underworld, with the Penguin planning to take over Falcone's gangs and become Gotham's big boss. Suspecting that Harvey Dent is the Riddler, Falcone would orchestrated a ambush for Harvey and try to kill him. Batman would arrive in time to save him half of his face would be burn by a explosion. Act 3 - Penguin and Falcone go to war but both sides are ambush by the Riddler, who reveal to be Edward Nygma, Falcone's right hand man, who manipulate both rivals so he can take over the underworld and prove his superiority to the crime bosses who mocked him. Luckly Batman (with the help of Tim Drake) would arrive in time to stop the riddler and, alongside Catwoman and Robin (Tim Drake) would capture all the three bosses. In the end, the police capture all the criminals, Catwoman escaped with Falcone's jews and Bruce decides to train Drake to become the new robin. The post credit scene could have Harvey waking up and seen his disfigured face in the mirror, teasing Two Face for a sequel.
@John Onnembo Simple. For the post credit scene I had two ideas in mind Idea 1) Takes place in one of Wayne enterprise labs and would showcase one of the inventions been stolen by some ninjas, who would only leave one clue : a shuriken with the drawn of demon in it's blade Idea 2) It would take place in Metropolis, showcasing a kid falling out of the window but he would be saved by a mysterious person in a red cape, who takes him back to his floor. The kid would look at him and would say "Nice suit!" which the man kindly answer "Thanks. My mom made for me". The man fly away leaving the kid impress. The scene ends with Superman TAS theme playing in the background.
@John Onnembo My fancast for your batman movie I think it could be Batman - Michael Fassbender Alfred - Ralph Fiennes Robin (Tim Drake) -Lucas Jade Zumann Catwoman - Sofia Boutella Barbara Gordon - Emma Stone Comissioner Gordon - Bryan Cranston Harvey Dent - Jon Hamm Harvey Bullock - Mark Sheppard Renee Montoya - Rosario Dawnson Riddler - David Tennant Penguin - Josh Gad Carmine Falcone - Aidan Gillen
@John Onnembo Act 1 - The opening would have Batman capturing the killer Victor Zsasz, establishing him as this mysterious vigilante (the whole scene would be a adaptation of Batman TAS opening). The next scene would take place in Falcone's party, establishing Bruce Wayne, his relationship with Selina Kyle, his interactions with Falcone and the Penguin, his friendship with Harvey Dent and also the rivalry between Penguin and Falcone. There would be a scene establishing Tim Drake as this Batman fan who would collect some Batman itens he found in the streets, like a old batarang. Batman would try to help Harvey find some evidences against Falcone but, when he breaks into Falcone's house he would meet Catwoman, with the two having their flirting chase, while being hunt by Falcone's men. Both are able to escape. The next scene would have one of the Falcone's family members being killed by a mysterious person, someone dressed in a green suit, with a purple tie and hat. This killer would leave behind a message with a riddle. The police would call Batman for help and he would decide to find this "Riddler". So far the first act would establish the main mysteries in the movie : Who is the Riddler? What he has against the Falcones? Could he be a ally of Penguin, helping him kill Falcone and steal his place as king of Gotham Underworld? What Catwoman was doing in Falcone's house?
Batman is the best. He knew his money couldn’t completely save Gotham, his parents tried and failed. But now along with that he became something else, not just a man, but a symbol of justice that strikes fear into criminals. In the words of Arkham Batman, “when a mugger or a thief stops to think twice that is fear, that is what I am”. I kind of disagree with the idea that Bruce died that night in the alley, although Batman was born that night, Bruce still remains in there. Bruce is the humanity that keeps his Batman persona from taking over and becoming a monster. For me, Batman is an inspiration to turn grief, sadness, and anger into powerful motivations to improve ourselves.
Batman is the symbol of mankind ability to overcome fear. He shows the ability for us to reach for the best and learn from and channel our emotions without getting engulf in them and destroying ourselves. He symbolizes what it means to be human.
Thank god someone actually sees Young Justice. The show does such a great job with the characters. Easily one of my favorite DC properties of all time.
"I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy to defeat them. I burn my decency for someone else's future. I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I'll never see. And the ego that started this fight will never have a mirror or an audience or the light of gratitude. So what do I sacrifice? Everything!" ―Luthen Rael
Batman as a character is something that i just as many have grown up with, he has helped me through so many tough things in my life and I have experienced grief just like everyone else and i channeled it in a very similar way as Bruce himself. I became a martial artist and I'm already a first-degree black belt in Taekwondo and I'm going for another in Ju-Jitsu, i love how in martial arts i can use my anger and passion and actually turn it into something good! i want to be a police officer when I'm 19 and then ill try my best to become a detective, I've always wanted to become a cop and i think part of that is because of how much i can relate to batman since i can so clearly see myself in him. i strive to be as mentally tough and physically strong as he is.
Because we love the elites, we love heroica, and we also love psychopaths... So when you make a psychotic superhero one percenter and give him a cool looking suit, plus an amazing rogue's gallery...yeah, that creates a storytelling goldmine
How can one not love and ascribe to these well thought out videos on our most beloved characters. Even the Superman segment fully explains why I can't get behind the DCEU's Superman or Batman for that matter. I love the many incredible animated versions of these two comic book behemoths.
Every great writer brings a new dimension to the character whether it was the Nolans making a hyper-realistic version of the character or the fascist lunatic of the Frank Miller comics, the character has so much room for creative leeway. If anyone hasn’t checked out ‘Arkham Asylum: A serious House on a Serious Earth” do it, it’s a great take on what a Batman who is afraid is like and really emphasizes the differences between Bruce and his rogues gallery
Batman in The Dark Knight Returns is not a fascist lunatic. That's your misconception of the character. The Dark Knight Returns is a heroic celebration of who Batman is. I doubt if you only used the word fascist to look smart
@@sparshbansal6624 I love the original 4 issues actually my idea of him being a facist mostly comes from his incorporation of previous enemies like the Nazi party did with the enemies of Bismark in Austria with the mutants in the book. Facism isnt inherently bad it’s just another political concept manipulated through bad people and 20 page comics aren’t a good medium to explore that and it definitely wasn’t explored well in ‘The Master Race’ story lol but TDKR 2 and All Star Batman mostly turned me off of that version of the character. but there’s no bad version of batman... except Caveman Batman, we don’t talk about him lmao
@@marcoarana2773 it’s another political concept made by people. Evil people made the Swastika into a symbol of evil from the symbol of good luck it was for hinduism. Facism started as a revolution to the higher class of places likeItaly and then was used by evil people to gather military power usually through fear. The point was being about Batman using military fear tactics to keep Gotham in check during the power outage at the end of TDKR. I want to be more upset with you for missing the point of the conversation but I’m kinda just sad that you weren’t able to read through basic instinct and know that everyone on TH-cam on a Batman video are going to think fascists are bad. Yeesh
@Xeta One overcame a disability, led a super team, and became a computer hacker, police commissioner, and Congressmember in some versions. And another was trained in martial arts from childhood by an assassin dad. Still, another was the rebellious daughter of a supervillain, who learned to counter many supervillains' gimmicks, an essential skill for a superhero. She also came back from the dead!
I feel the two best batman moments in any story's are one in Gotham when Bruce comes face to face with Joe Chill and tho he come to kill Joe he ultimately refuses saying "I wish you were a monster, but you're just a man." and in Batman Bad Blood when Talia mind controls him and forces him to shoot and kill his son Damian Wayne, however he refuses and tho he can't fully force himself out of her control he does will himself not to shot his son, instead redirecting that, of course he still won't kill Talia because he refuses to kill even his enimes and will take that to his grave, something he proves when, given he can't shoot Damian, and won't shoot Talia it leaves him with only one option, himself. He points the gun at his own head and wills himself not to pull the trigger long enough for someone to save him. I feel like these two moments showcase better than any others the essence of his character and what sets him apart from any other hero.
"Moral actiom strengthens moral conviction." Reminds me of the Aristotilean idea about ethics that discipline begets virtue. I dig it. I like the overarching theme of drawimg meaning and forging purpose from loss, pain and suffering. Superman actually addresses similar and tangential ideas from a different angle. That's why the two have such a strong connection (apart from the mere cmercial fact of their popularity). I think this existential idea resonates with people specifically because we live in age significantly and regrettably characterized by cynicism and nihilism, and it's the desire of decent, ultimately hopeful people to want to transcend that.
@@barry2349 he is supposed to bring hope to others and be charming and or friendly like Superman but unlike Superman, he doesn’t do it out of JUST being good. He does it as a promise to a lost loved one, like Batman. Plus Batman and Spider-Man both have a no killing rule (Superman also)
I love both of these characters and take both into account for my life. I take the trauma from my life and use that to drive my passion and choices, but like clark i want to believe every person is good on the inside and we have the potential to show it.
I love Batman he is my favorite fictional character of all time. I can relate to the fact of a man wanting to be something and become more than just a man. He does inspire me.
10:20-13:27 this right here perfectly shows why Batman and Superman Dynamic it's so interesting. Also as a Batman fan everything you said it's true i thought those assumptions about Superman( based on the Christopher Reeves depiction and my lack of research on the character) until I read Peter tomasi Superman rebirth run watch Superman the animated series and Smallville TV show and then finally all might from my hero Academia I finally understood that I was wrong and Superman is an interesting character( and despite him being an aspirational hero he actually does relate to people Are you an immigrant or descendant from immigrants, have you ever felt like a fish out of water, and are you not familiar with presenting a different you at work than you do outside of work, have you ever been the smartest and best-looking or most athletic in a crowd and try to downplay it or masket so you can talk to people in a tier level without making them inferior, you ever wanted a temporary break from all your worldly responsibilities if you can relate to any of that you can relate to Superman)
Honestly, how come people even love Batman without respecting Superman? Superman has always brought hope and inspiration to Batman too in all media, be it animation, comics or films.
Superman respects batman because batman has every reason to be a villain but he took that pain and became a hero making sure others don't suffer like he has he even gives back to the city that took everything from him. Is he perfect? No but his hearts in the right place. Batman respects superman because with all the power superman has it doesn't go to his head he doesn't force his will onto the world or see himself as superior but sees himself as one of them he decided to be a beacon of hope. They are the world's finest for a reason.
@@hasthehighground8560 I’ve read a bunch of comics, played the arkham games, seen all the live actions, and most of the animated movies/shows Batman related. I’m not a big fan of superheroes I’m general, but Batman’s ability to take his trauma and channel it into becoming a symbol of hope who first has to learn to not enact vengeance to get to that point is just a very compelling arc for any character. In most Batman stories he starts as depressed and nihilistic simply devoting himself to his mission of cleaning up the streets because enacting indiscriminate vengeance on criminals is a coping mechanism for him. He then learns to use this coping mechanism to actually give hope to the people of Gotham so they can rebuild they’re corrupt city. His rogue’s gallery all being a psychological reflection of him in some way also makes for very compelling story telling. I however think Superman is very hard to relate to because he’s just some alien that is unrealistic to strive towards being and his moral ideals lack any nuance or learning. Batman is actually in a moral gray area for the earlier parts of his mission due to him fighting out of vengeance and anger rather than justice and hope. Superman just always has done the right thing and he’s always in peak physical condition because wit was given to him. Now yes he does have emotional struggles and those can be relatable if you’ve actually read the comics, but I assure you that there are many people who have a very nuanced view of Batman while having a more cut and dry view of Superman(such as myself to a certain extent) due to the reasons I previously stated. I feel your comment was a pretty large generalization. Anyway sorry for the essay I hope you have a pleasant day.
Can I just say epic opening montage at the beginning I got goosebumps also he doesn't just help as batman he uses his wealth to make many organizations for homeless, the sick and many other things
I think the way Skulduggery Pleasant puts it explains Batman so well: "It's all an act. For everyone. We're all acting good and noble because acting good is what makes us good." - Skulduggery Pleasant, "Skulduggery Pleasant: Kingdom of the Wicked"
4:20 As a longtime Batfan, just to bring a slightly different perspective, I always believed he truly moved past his pain over time personally... not saying it didn't take time, but even at a young age in comics, he understood his intentions had to come with balance and not revenge. The death of his parents keeps that balance intact because he knows they'd want him to do good and be good, and being of benefit to Gotham as they were. Early on, he understood his sole purpose wasn't to murder and brutalize in seeking out all of his training, but to bring justice and be the balance that Gotham needed; the balance that the GCPD wouldn't and couldn't provide. And naturally, because he had a personal stake in this first hand, it was personal, it became his crusade. But ultimately, the way I see it, the pain itself was retooled by Bruce to be the balancing tool he uses in his mission. The films for story sake would have him suffer bouts of PTSD during Keaton's run and Kilmer's film for a more human touch, but just like a person who say lost a family member and makes a foundation in their honor, the character of Bruce took it to the next level with all he had at his disposal. He took all his efforts to the greatest levels imaginable; and for a man who didn't have to work, the character dedicates his life to this work making it something that Bruce Wayne and Batman fights for, in one way or another, around the clock. He isn't in endless trauma. That'd be someone I'd categorize as a character who couldn't move past his pain. Bruce can move past it, but he understood early on that his city needed something much more to enact change and make a difference and that there was nobody better equipped than him to see this challenge through. His sense of duty and compassion for others having suffered at the hands criminals, compels him to go the extra mile. Instead of letting that pain go, he puts his death grip on it to use it as a driving force that keeps him on the straight and narrow of his crusade.
Here is my opinion Batman in his first years is his true face until Dick, Barbra and Jason came in. After that he realized that being Batman isn't enough. And so both BRUCE WAYNE and BATMAN became his mask and his true self become Bruce. Only Bruce
Superman inspires us to be the best we can be, to look towards the light. The Bat-man shows us what is waiting for us if we stray too far into the shadows of the dark.
Another villain that represents something of batman is baby doll. Batman never got to experience a child hood, only knowing his life as mostly being an adult. where as babydoll only knew being as a child, but never becoming an actual adult.
@@hectordoblado4987 several actually. But also because I don't mind different takes on the characters (even though Snyder's weren't all too off from other comic interpretations). If I want the same old stuff I love I'll watch those films/shows and read those comics. Always move forward.
2022 has given me two new favorite interpretations of the character with Reeve’s The Batman & Batman Unburied. I love how sharply Bruce’s trauma is cut into Pattman for the former & Winston Duke’s Batman despite still being traumatized & indebted to the memories of his parents, he’s grown to a place where being Batman doesn’t seem like a burden & has slowly evolved into a role he loves & embraces.
My god that second Batman theme you played at the beginning gave me chills. I love that adaptation of Batman so much and I rarely hear people talk about it, also the theme is kick ass so to hear it in the video was really nice
Greatest superheroe of all time imo, I remember when I used to be up for hours watching TDK and Batman 1989 and of course Batman the animated series. I personally think Conroy is the best comic adaptation of Bruce and Batman.
This is an amazing video and I’m glad you included a small analysis on Superman praising him and dismissing the idiotic claims that Superman is “boring” cuz he is more powerful and does good things for the sake of good
Superframe you’ve done it again! A few years ago when I was in college, I first wrote an essay about why I thought Superman was the greatest hero of all time, then I wrote another one about Batman. And after watching this video everything you said about Batman was way better than anything I could’ve thought of to say about him. Excellent job! 👍🏼
Amazing video for an amazing hero like Superman both are examples of what we can become with Superman being the goal to which we ourselves aspire to be and batman being the result and journey of persuing said aspirations.
Growing up Batman was my favorite hero too. But as I got older I started to like Superman more because he is someone I would aspire to be more than Batman. No hate for the Dark Knight tho. Really hope you do Wonder Woman next!
Interesting. I am the exact opposite. Superman was it for me when I was a kid growing up. Then later on gravitated toward Batman. Perhaps the darker grounded aspects appeal to me more the way my life has progressed as I age. Still love Superman though.
I came here for batman, and I'm not disappointed at all, but I want to especially thank you for that Superman bit and your video about him, more people need to hear it.
isnt it also cool that since batman dresses as a bat (something evil as you said), his enemies most of the time dress like good things, joker's a clown, bane is a wrestler, poison ivy is a plant, hugo strange is a doctor, harvey is a lawyer and scarecrow is a scarecrow, which is an object that protects crops
For I am more inspired by Batman than Superman because Batman is a man that inspires me to be better despite our limitations as humans to always be our better selves. Whereas for me, Superman is a God that lives amongst man that seeks to better understand the concept of morality than anything else. A God that is incorruptible and altruistic being that seeks the betterment of all humanity. This is how I see both characters but for me, Batman is more relatable because of that but it doesn't make him better than Superman as a character at all. They complement each other and the best of the bromance I have seen in comics.
Batman to me represents self improvement and he has made on impact on my life he motivates me to get better he is part of the reason I workout or try to stop procrastinating or just overall better myself
It makes so much sense now, unlike spiderman he never met the man who killed his parents so he never got that closure (i think in like 2 animated series he did but i dont think its canon)
He has met Chill in lots of comics including in current continuity. However,nthis was many years after he became Batman, became consumed completely by his mission
I love a good under the mask mini-documentary. You did this so good like all your projects Mitch. Now. Are you excited for the upcoming SnyderCut. Personally I am thrilled. Íve avoided trailers. Hopeing to get a good experience overall.
Been wanting to make a batman equivalent of what I did for my superman video so here it is... Why batman works!! Making this made me fall back in love with the dark knight, the existential struggle, the inner demons, its all great fun to research, especially the psychology side of it which informed why he is the way he is, hopefully you guys dig the video !!
It's simple, Batman Works because he has ALFRED.
Great video bro it reminded why I love batman so much. The will power, dedication, moral code, and the choice to see the good in people in a cruel world.
Amazing video dude. Something I'm never a fan is how some people nowadays portray Batman as just a "Punisher wannabe", a angst vigilante, but don't get his true core, what make such a great character: His compassion and dedication. The fact he suffered such trauma in childhood but was able to convert this into his motivation to become better person, to help others and stick to his values despite being tempt by villains like the Joker.
Awesome content as usual. Will u be doing other DC heroes as well?
Batman works when he isn't killing anyone.
Batman is the most versatile superhero, he can be interpreted in so many ways. His villains are brilliant and sometimes relatable. His city is like a living being. The atmosphere is unique and fitting. That's why Batman is so iconic.
Zsasz, calender man, joker, fire guy thingy always relatable
@@Pinakiprime910 fire guy thingy? I hope you aren’t dissing my man, firefly.
@@GingeryGinger but but he wanna burn buldings and shit i feel like i can relate to him
to be fair Gotham is sometimes literally alive.
couldn't of said it better
I love both Batman and Superman, sometimes for different reasons, others for the same.
Batman inspires me to be strong, Superman inspire me to be good, and both inspire me to never give up.
Perfectly said
Couldn't agree more
Personally I always thought superman is needed more than now I don’t see him as outdated In this day and age
Superman’s philosophy promoting ideals such as truth, justice, patriotism may seem lost on us but the truth is....... we need him more than ever right now
Exactly we need to unify people not break them apart We need to learn to do good things not because it makes us feel better but because it’s the right thing to do
@@noaholson9047 agreed Superman fights for Liberty Justice and freedom that's the whole American Way philosophy He wants us to Aspire to
In a decaying, fragmenting age, an avatar of strength and purity is very appealing.
@@Lite727 I am not an American so Superman teaches me something different.For me supes Is what people should be like ya know not being an asshole and being kind to each other.I remember a comic where he talked a girl out of suicide.
Superman is pure optimism
Batman is realistic optimism
If that makes sense
No, Both of them aspire to be something great,
Batman while yes he has gone through a lot, and has turned his pain into a tool
Superman himself is also perfectly attainable,
not in the sense of power but in a sense of character and believing that there can be a better tomorrow,
Both of these heroes truce to strive to be more despite their flaws
Not trying to gaslight just stating my opinion 😊
Superman is optimism.
Batman is pragmatism.
Of all Batman aspects, I think his conflicts with his rogues gallery, are the one that best represent what makes Batman such a great character, since the rogues tecnically are just like Batman, victims of trauma and tragedy, working as dark reflection of what Batman could had become if he had taken a different path after his parents death. When Batman fight them, he is fighting against his own inner demons. These similarites can also be the reason why Batman always choose to help them instead of killing them, because he knows the rogues are just traumatized as he is and, just like he did for Robin and other bat family members, he wants to help his enemies overcome their trauma and become better people.
@John Onnembo That's a very great ideia. Maxwell Lord is also a villain who could work to bring the league together, although I have one suggestion : Besides the Lord and Talia you could also add Amanda Waller, establishing that the three work with project Cadmus (or A.R.G.U.S) in developing the OMAC project as way to protect humanity from the increase super human population, as they fear that this new super humans might one day turn on humanity.
However is Maxwell scheme and the league's actions that makes them realize that they need heroes like the Justice League to protect them from evil like Maxwell Lord and the OMACs, creating a better relationship between the Justice League and the goverment, just like the league would have learned to work together.
@John Onnembo The acts would be simple
Act : 1Establish the members of the league, having them dealig with some Omac infiltrators, who start to frame them for crimes they didn't commit, turning people against the heroes. Eventually they all are reunite by J'onn who reveals to them the truth about OMACs and their plan to eliminate the heroes.
Act 2 : Showcase the heroes discovering that the OMACs have information about them due to Batman's invention, Brother Eye, causing them to feel betrayed by the dark knight. Meanwhile, Flash (Barry Allen) and Hal, who would have a buddy cop partnership during the story, would discover about Maxwell Lord's past and that he is the one who hack Brother Eye and is controling the OMACs wanting to kill not just the heroes but anyone who possess the meta gene, having the potential to be a meta human in the future.
Eventually the members of the league are able to understant each other better, specially Superman and Batman and Wonder Woman and Aquaman (who would have at first a rivalry due to a complicate story between the amazons and the atlanteans).
Act 3 : While Superman, Green Lantern and J'onn go to space to face Brother Eye, the other members of the league attack Maxwell Lord's base, to shut down a force field and allow the heroes in space to destroy brother eye. In the end they succedd and Brother Eye is destroyed and Maxwell Lord is arrested with the goverment now having a better relationship with the meta humans. The movie ends with the heroes reuniting in old building that Batman bought (the future Hall of Justice) and decide to work together, becoming the Justice League.
Post credit scene : Would take place in Apokolips, with Desaad informing Darkseid about the birth of the Justice League. He would ask if he thinks the heroes will be a problem for them and Desaad will deny, claiming that no one is match for him. The scene ends with Darkseid saying that the Justice League are welcome to try to face him, with his eyes glowing like fire.
@John Onnembo Oh yeah. I forgot. She would be the one who would have helped Lord steal from Batman, wanting to avenge her father after being defeated by the hero in the Worlds Finest movie. However, after realize Maxwell scheme she would betray him, saying that while she may seek the same goals as her father, she doesn't like to use his methods.
@John Onnembo They would still equipament from STAR Labs, which later it would be revealed is just make a nanochip weapon that will allow Maxwell Lord to kill all those who has the potential to become a meta human.
@John Onnembo Amanda Waller would help the league during the fight revealing the location of Maxwell Lord's hideout, and Alfred and Wally would have cameos in the first act, helping establish the heroes supporting cast and make clear that the heroes are fighting not just to save the planet but also the people they care.
On the subject of Batman’s Robins, the biggest factor people keep overlooking is that Batman never coerces these kids into becoming Robin- exactly the opposite! They were all driven, and obsessed with vengeance BEFORE Batman took them in (with maybe the exception of Jason Todd). In other words, without Batman’s guidance, each of those kids would have been hitting the streets confronting criminals ANYWAY.
“Life isn’t a game and death is never a choice. To make it so is our undoing. It would be my undoing.”
God where is that quote from I swear I’ve seen it before
@@landonjamison7332 the under the red hood ending of death in the family
It's simple, Batman Works because he has ALFRED
True. Everyone needs that one person to trust and rely on unconditionally. That one person we can express our feelings once in a while when things get hard as well. That is Alfred. Batman / Bruce Wayne can only pretend so much at some point he needs someone to open up about the burdens of being Batman / Bruce Wayne
Not necessarily because he doesn't have Alfred in the Comics Right Now. Why he works is that he can overcome great feats for a mortal man. BATMAN is best when he up against the ropes.
Respect
Batman has many things going for him:
1) He looks cool. Batman is the most aesthetically comic/fiction character.
2) His universe. Gotham, Batcave, Wayne Enteprises. You can make a storyline out of any of those.
3) The villains. Joker is as popular as Batman. But after Joker you also have Scarecrow, the Riddler, the Penguin, Poison Ivy. Again, you can make stories out of any of those villains and make it good.
4) The comic stories. No other comic character has so many good storylines: Year One, The long halloween, Hush, In the court of owls, Dark Night Rises, JLA Tower of Babel, etc.
5) Great movies. The Michael Keaton movies were the catalyst of the superhero movie. Then you have the Nolan trilogy which are just great movies that happen to feature Batman. Sure there are many Batman movie duds out there, but the good ones are really great.
6) Video games. The Batman Arkham video games are iconic at this point.
7) Batman animated series. Any kids that watched this in the 90’s became an instant Batman fan.
That’s all I can think of. Some may say Batman’s relatability, but I disagree. Batman is not relatable. He is a billionaire wealthy man that can afford to be a vigilante.
Yes.
Yeah.
4:11 You've said multiple times now that Batman/Bruce Wayne doesn't put his money to more useful things like charity. But he *does* donate vast sums to various charity and public works projects. He even has a work program for former criminals to help them get jobs and live normal lives. The fact that he's somehow able to do that *as well as* beat criminals up at night is ridiculous but it's part of the character.
He usually goes through a vengeance stage before he gets to that point though.
@@Shittyrapper You're both right. We've seen Bruce Wayne pour millions, if not billions of dollars, into Gotham's infrastructure, healthcare, education, etc. Think Leslie Thompkins' clinic, reconstruction after No Man's Land or Zero Year. But he usually spends his first year or two (pre-Robin) much angrier and more violent. More obsessed with vengeance, as you noted, and punishing criminals rather than helping people as Bruce Wayne
@@ewanmartel9797 you just repeated my argument in more detail, but yes that is what I meant.
Im disappointed this youtuber doesnt even know the Wayne Foundation like come on now.
@@ShittyrapperI do agree with your statement where in the beginning he is not great at doing charity work but an interesting flip side is that many of the rich people in Gotham and those in charge don't want gotham to get better and many actively intentionally make gotham worse cause if Gotham improves then people start looking into other less serious problems such as corruption and rooting out criminals within businesses and government do Gotham is such an awful city fully intentionally so I believe it definitely takes both Batman working on the city and Bruce doing massive charity work for Gotham to ever improve ( amendment to my statement by less serious problems I mean compared to nukes and supervillains who can single handedly destroy the city also the living conditions in Gotham make it so the people are so focused on survival that they aren't gonna speak up to the crime lords who own their homes and every business they use and often times own all jobs within gotham
Batman works because he’s a hero who overcomes his fear but also embraces a family and cares about people.
Yes.
Also the fact that he is a regular human being without superpowers and that he can get hurt, we can all relate to that rather than being a god like alien from another planet or the victim of a radio active spider bite. He’s who he is because he used the worst moment of his life to drive his ambition for good and to bring justice to those who can’t fend for themselves, he puts the hours in to train and improve his intellectual, physical& combat skills. Always be yourself unless you can be Batman . . . then always be Batman
@@jordanpeakofficial true and you're right about that
@@TevyaSmolka Batman's also a character with strong moral compass and someone who believes people can be redeemed if given a second chance
@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 agreed
I love the line from “The Dark knight”
: “you thought we could be decent men in an INDECENT TIME”
Pretty much wraps up what we love about him. He is individualism and integrity personified, against a sea of evil dragging him down.
One thing I love about batman is how he represents the virtue of fighting even is defeat is inevitable. If Year One and the Long Halloween are treated as Batman's start then Gotham began as a city with a Mafia problem and evolved into a surreal and horrific city despite (or perhaps because of) Batman. Despite this, his crusade continues despite that he probably is aware that there is no way that he can return Gotham to even to what is was during year one.
That scene of bruce in the graveyard of his parents in mask of phantasm still give me chills everytime i watch it what a great movie.
This channel is so underrated, it’s always a good feeling to find ones like this
He is compelling because he is one of the most mature superheroes.
The emotions that caused his birth - loss, grief, guilt, pain - are shared by every single human being at some point in our lives (or several).
As a concept, he doesn't shy away from deep notions of trauma, suffering, introspection and the almost incapacitating urge to overcome your shadow self and use it for something positive, that gives your life purpose.
Batman works because if he didn't he would be
unemployed.
@John Onnembo I think it could look something like this
Act 1 - It would establish Batman and his status quo. There would be a scene where Bruce goes to Falcone's party, meeting the mob boss as well Selina Kyle, establishing their romance, and Harvey Dent, who would be Bruce's childhood friend.
Later there would be a murdere in the party and the only clue left would be a riddle, calling the police and Batman attention to find out who is this Riddler killer.
Meanwhile there would also be a sub plot about Tim Drake seeing Batman in action and inspiring to become like him.
Act 2 - After chasing the riddler, Batman would be knock out but saved by Tim, who takes him to the Batcave revealing he deduce his identity. The two would team up to find the riddler, whose actions are causing tensions in the underworld, with the Penguin planning to take over Falcone's gangs and become Gotham's big boss.
Suspecting that Harvey Dent is the Riddler, Falcone would orchestrated a ambush for Harvey and try to kill him. Batman would arrive in time to save him half of his face would be burn by a explosion.
Act 3 - Penguin and Falcone go to war but both sides are ambush by the Riddler, who reveal to be Edward Nygma, Falcone's right hand man, who manipulate both rivals so he can take over the underworld and prove his superiority to the crime bosses who mocked him. Luckly Batman (with the help of Tim Drake) would arrive in time to stop the riddler and, alongside Catwoman and Robin (Tim Drake) would capture all the three bosses.
In the end, the police capture all the criminals, Catwoman escaped with Falcone's jews and Bruce decides to train Drake to become the new robin.
The post credit scene could have Harvey waking up and seen his disfigured face in the mirror, teasing Two Face for a sequel.
@John Onnembo One question: Barbara Gordon would be in this pitch? Ifshe is, would she be Batgirl or would she be already Oracle?
@John Onnembo Simple. For the post credit scene I had two ideas in mind
Idea 1) Takes place in one of Wayne enterprise labs and would showcase one of the inventions been stolen by some ninjas, who would only leave one clue : a shuriken with the drawn of demon in it's blade
Idea 2) It would take place in Metropolis, showcasing a kid falling out of the window but he would be saved by a mysterious person in a red cape, who takes him back to his floor. The kid would look at him and would say "Nice suit!" which the man kindly answer "Thanks. My mom made for me". The man fly away leaving the kid impress. The scene ends with Superman TAS theme playing in the background.
@John Onnembo My fancast for your batman movie I think it could be
Batman - Michael Fassbender
Alfred - Ralph Fiennes
Robin (Tim Drake) -Lucas Jade Zumann
Catwoman - Sofia Boutella
Barbara Gordon - Emma Stone
Comissioner Gordon - Bryan Cranston
Harvey Dent - Jon Hamm
Harvey Bullock - Mark Sheppard
Renee Montoya - Rosario Dawnson
Riddler - David Tennant
Penguin - Josh Gad
Carmine Falcone - Aidan Gillen
@John Onnembo Act 1 - The opening would have Batman capturing the killer Victor Zsasz, establishing him as this mysterious vigilante (the whole scene would be a adaptation of Batman TAS opening).
The next scene would take place in Falcone's party, establishing Bruce Wayne, his relationship with Selina Kyle, his interactions with Falcone and the Penguin, his friendship with Harvey Dent and also the rivalry between Penguin and Falcone.
There would be a scene establishing Tim Drake as this Batman fan who would collect some Batman itens he found in the streets, like a old batarang.
Batman would try to help Harvey find some evidences against Falcone but, when he breaks into Falcone's house he would meet Catwoman, with the two having their flirting chase, while being hunt by Falcone's men. Both are able to escape.
The next scene would have one of the Falcone's family members being killed by a mysterious person, someone dressed in a green suit, with a purple tie and hat. This killer would leave behind a message with a riddle. The police would call Batman for help and he would decide to find this "Riddler".
So far the first act would establish the main mysteries in the movie : Who is the Riddler? What he has against the Falcones? Could he be a ally of Penguin, helping him kill Falcone and steal his place as king of Gotham Underworld? What Catwoman was doing in Falcone's house?
Batman is the best. He knew his money couldn’t completely save Gotham, his parents tried and failed. But now along with that he became something else, not just a man, but a symbol of justice that strikes fear into criminals. In the words of Arkham Batman, “when a mugger or a thief stops to think twice that is fear, that is what I am”. I kind of disagree with the idea that Bruce died that night in the alley, although Batman was born that night, Bruce still remains in there. Bruce is the humanity that keeps his Batman persona from taking over and becoming a monster. For me, Batman is an inspiration to turn grief, sadness, and anger into powerful motivations to improve ourselves.
Started out just wanting to collect movie Batmobile toys. Ended up loving the character and identifying with his humanity, too. Long live the Bat!
Batman is the symbol of mankind ability to overcome fear. He shows the ability for us to reach for the best and learn from and channel our emotions without getting engulf in them and destroying ourselves. He symbolizes what it means to be human.
Thank god someone actually sees Young Justice. The show does such a great job with the characters. Easily one of my favorite DC properties of all time.
"I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy to defeat them. I burn my decency for someone else's future. I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I'll never see. And the ego that started this fight will never have a mirror or an audience or the light of gratitude. So what do I sacrifice? Everything!" ―Luthen Rael
Batman as a character is something that i just as many have grown up with, he has helped me through so many tough things in my life and I have experienced grief just like everyone else and i channeled it in a very similar way as Bruce himself. I became a martial artist and I'm already a first-degree black belt in Taekwondo and I'm going for another in Ju-Jitsu, i love how in martial arts i can use my anger and passion and actually turn it into something good! i want to be a police officer when I'm 19 and then ill try my best to become a detective, I've always wanted to become a cop and i think part of that is because of how much i can relate to batman since i can so clearly see myself in him. i strive to be as mentally tough and physically strong as he is.
Because we love the elites, we love heroica, and we also love psychopaths...
So when you make a psychotic superhero one percenter and give him a cool looking suit, plus an amazing rogue's gallery...yeah, that creates a storytelling goldmine
How can one not love and ascribe to these well thought out videos on our most beloved characters. Even the Superman segment fully explains why I can't get behind the DCEU's Superman or Batman for that matter.
I love the many incredible animated versions of these two comic book behemoths.
I just want a public enemies movie. Superman and batman best friends fighting for eachother
I assume you mean a live action one cause there's an animated one and it's pretty great
omg, The Batman (2004) was such a great show, i heard the intro and my brain just went into nostalgia mode.
Every great writer brings a new dimension to the character whether it was the Nolans making a hyper-realistic version of the character or the fascist lunatic of the Frank Miller comics, the character has so much room for creative leeway. If anyone hasn’t checked out ‘Arkham Asylum: A serious House on a Serious Earth” do it, it’s a great take on what a Batman who is afraid is like and really emphasizes the differences between Bruce and his rogues gallery
I highly recommend you read Batman White Knight
Batman in The Dark Knight Returns is not a fascist lunatic. That's your misconception of the character. The Dark Knight Returns is a heroic celebration of who Batman is. I doubt if you only used the word fascist to look smart
@@sparshbansal6624 I love the original 4 issues actually my idea of him being a facist mostly comes from his incorporation of previous enemies like the Nazi party did with the enemies of Bismark in Austria with the mutants in the book. Facism isnt inherently bad it’s just another political concept manipulated through bad people and 20 page comics aren’t a good medium to explore that and it definitely wasn’t explored well in ‘The Master Race’ story lol but TDKR 2 and All Star Batman mostly turned me off of that version of the character. but there’s no bad version of batman... except Caveman Batman, we don’t talk about him lmao
@@dws0828 you deadass just said that fascism isn’t bad? bro get out of here
@@marcoarana2773 it’s another political concept made by people. Evil people made the Swastika into a symbol of evil from the symbol of good luck it was for hinduism. Facism started as a revolution to the higher class of places likeItaly and then was used by evil people to gather military power usually through fear. The point was being about Batman using military fear tactics to keep Gotham in check during the power outage at the end of TDKR. I want to be more upset with you for missing the point of the conversation but I’m kinda just sad that you weren’t able to read through basic instinct and know that everyone on TH-cam on a Batman video are going to think fascists are bad. Yeesh
How come nobody talks about the Batgirls? They are underrated as hell.
@Xeta One overcame a disability, led a super team, and became a computer hacker, police commissioner, and Congressmember in some versions. And another was trained in martial arts from childhood by an assassin dad. Still, another was the rebellious daughter of a supervillain, who learned to counter many supervillains' gimmicks, an essential skill for a superhero. She also came back from the dead!
Batgirl will always be in Batman's shadow.
As you can see by that batgirl show, it failed so ya they'll be in Batmans shadow and they'll stay there.
@@Darthwgamer tf? just because theres a bad show doesnt mean the character theyre adapting is bad. thats so unfair wtf
@@aryan7767 I'm sorry I ment they're batgirl (which also isn't her unless she's black.) Didn't mean the confusion
Idea challenge: do a video on why Spider-Man works, and then make a video comparing and contrasting him to Batman.
I feel the two best batman moments in any story's are one in Gotham when Bruce comes face to face with Joe Chill and tho he come to kill Joe he ultimately refuses saying "I wish you were a monster, but you're just a man." and in Batman Bad Blood when Talia mind controls him and forces him to shoot and kill his son Damian Wayne, however he refuses and tho he can't fully force himself out of her control he does will himself not to shot his son, instead redirecting that, of course he still won't kill Talia because he refuses to kill even his enimes and will take that to his grave, something he proves when, given he can't shoot Damian, and won't shoot Talia it leaves him with only one option, himself. He points the gun at his own head and wills himself not to pull the trigger long enough for someone to save him. I feel like these two moments showcase better than any others the essence of his character and what sets him apart from any other hero.
My favorite batman line :
"You dont get it son ,this isn't a mudhole;
Its an operating table and im the Surgeon.
3:48 he has given many donations to children hospitals, homeless shelters, rehabilitation centers, giving convicts jobs for a second chance.
"Moral actiom strengthens moral conviction." Reminds me of the Aristotilean idea about ethics that discipline begets virtue. I dig it. I like the overarching theme of drawimg meaning and forging purpose from loss, pain and suffering. Superman actually addresses similar and tangential ideas from a different angle. That's why the two have such a strong connection (apart from the mere cmercial fact of their popularity). I think this existential idea resonates with people specifically because we live in age significantly and regrettably characterized by cynicism and nihilism, and it's the desire of decent, ultimately hopeful people to want to transcend that.
You should do a deconstruction on Spider-Man, since he kinda is Superman and Batman’s ideals combined plus it’s a lot of people’s favorite character
No he really isn't the same,all three are pretty different characters,
@@barry2349 he is supposed to bring hope to others and be charming and or friendly like Superman but unlike Superman, he doesn’t do it out of JUST being good. He does it as a promise to a lost loved one, like Batman. Plus Batman and Spider-Man both have a no killing rule (Superman also)
I love both of these characters and take both into account for my life. I take the trauma from my life and use that to drive my passion and choices, but like clark i want to believe every person is good on the inside and we have the potential to show it.
The danny Elfman score is so iconic, everytime I hear it, it gives a chill down my spine!
I love Batman he is my favorite fictional character of all time. I can relate to the fact of a man wanting to be something and become more than just a man. He does inspire me.
Also great video essay.
My favorite superhero of all time and the greatest superhero of all time imo.🦇🐐
It's almost impossible to deconstruct his character in a 10 min he has so much of him
10:20-13:27 this right here perfectly shows why Batman and Superman Dynamic it's so interesting. Also as a Batman fan everything you said it's true i thought those assumptions about Superman( based on the Christopher Reeves depiction and my lack of research on the character) until I read Peter tomasi Superman rebirth run watch Superman the animated series and Smallville TV show and then finally all might from my hero Academia I finally understood that I was wrong and Superman is an interesting character( and despite him being an aspirational hero he actually does relate to people Are you an immigrant or descendant from immigrants, have you ever felt like a fish out of water, and are you not familiar with presenting a different you at work than you do outside of work, have you ever been the smartest and best-looking or most athletic in a crowd and try to downplay it or masket so you can talk to people in a tier level without making them inferior, you ever wanted a temporary break from all your worldly responsibilities if you can relate to any of that you can relate to Superman)
Honestly, how come people even love Batman without respecting Superman? Superman has always brought hope and inspiration to Batman too in all media, be it animation, comics or films.
Because they don’t actually like or care about Batman. They watched the Dark Knight and like a guy in black who punches people.
@@hasthehighground8560 LOL
Superman respects batman because batman has every reason to be a villain but he took that pain and became a hero making sure others don't suffer like he has he even gives back to the city that took everything from him. Is he perfect? No but his hearts in the right place.
Batman respects superman because with all the power superman has it doesn't go to his head he doesn't force his will onto the world or see himself as superior but sees himself as one of them he decided to be a beacon of hope.
They are the world's finest for a reason.
@@hasthehighground8560 I’ve read a bunch of comics, played the arkham games, seen all the live actions, and most of the animated movies/shows Batman related. I’m not a big fan of superheroes I’m general, but Batman’s ability to take his trauma and channel it into becoming a symbol of hope who first has to learn to not enact vengeance to get to that point is just a very compelling arc for any character. In most Batman stories he starts as depressed and nihilistic simply devoting himself to his mission of cleaning up the streets because enacting indiscriminate vengeance on criminals is a coping mechanism for him. He then learns to use this coping mechanism to actually give hope to the people of Gotham so they can rebuild they’re corrupt city. His rogue’s gallery all being a psychological reflection of him in some way also makes for very compelling story telling. I however think Superman is very hard to relate to because he’s just some alien that is unrealistic to strive towards being and his moral ideals lack any nuance or learning. Batman is actually in a moral gray area for the earlier parts of his mission due to him fighting out of vengeance and anger rather than justice and hope. Superman just always has done the right thing and he’s always in peak physical condition because wit was given to him. Now yes he does have emotional struggles and those can be relatable if you’ve actually read the comics, but I assure you that there are many people who have a very nuanced view of Batman while having a more cut and dry view of Superman(such as myself to a certain extent) due to the reasons I previously stated. I feel your comment was a pretty large generalization. Anyway sorry for the essay I hope you have a pleasant day.
Batman always has a plan but then he has backup plans for his backup plans for his Back-up Plan
Every time i hear that line
“ so he wouldn’t” I can feel his pain and sorrow
THIS VIDEO IS SO FANTASTIC! I LOVE IT SO MUCH!
Can I just say epic opening montage at the beginning I got goosebumps also he doesn't just help as batman he uses his wealth to make many organizations for homeless, the sick and many other things
I think the way Skulduggery Pleasant puts it explains Batman so well:
"It's all an act. For everyone. We're all acting good and noble because acting good is what makes us good."
- Skulduggery Pleasant, "Skulduggery Pleasant: Kingdom of the Wicked"
The city Gotham itself and his rogue gallery are also part of what makes batman so cool
4:20 As a longtime Batfan, just to bring a slightly different perspective, I always believed he truly moved past his pain over time personally... not saying it didn't take time, but even at a young age in comics, he understood his intentions had to come with balance and not revenge. The death of his parents keeps that balance intact because he knows they'd want him to do good and be good, and being of benefit to Gotham as they were. Early on, he understood his sole purpose wasn't to murder and brutalize in seeking out all of his training, but to bring justice and be the balance that Gotham needed; the balance that the GCPD wouldn't and couldn't provide. And naturally, because he had a personal stake in this first hand, it was personal, it became his crusade. But ultimately, the way I see it, the pain itself was retooled by Bruce to be the balancing tool he uses in his mission. The films for story sake would have him suffer bouts of PTSD during Keaton's run and Kilmer's film for a more human touch, but just like a person who say lost a family member and makes a foundation in their honor, the character of Bruce took it to the next level with all he had at his disposal. He took all his efforts to the greatest levels imaginable; and for a man who didn't have to work, the character dedicates his life to this work making it something that Bruce Wayne and Batman fights for, in one way or another, around the clock.
He isn't in endless trauma. That'd be someone I'd categorize as a character who couldn't move past his pain. Bruce can move past it, but he understood early on that his city needed something much more to enact change and make a difference and that there was nobody better equipped than him to see this challenge through. His sense of duty and compassion for others having suffered at the hands criminals, compels him to go the extra mile. Instead of letting that pain go, he puts his death grip on it to use it as a driving force that keeps him on the straight and narrow of his crusade.
Here is my opinion Batman in his first years is his true face until Dick, Barbra and Jason came in. After that he realized that being Batman isn't enough. And so both BRUCE WAYNE and BATMAN became his mask and his true self become Bruce. Only Bruce
I, in fact, watched ALL THREE series in the opening.
Bruce Wayne is a mask that the Batman wears to conceal his identity while Superman is the mask that Clark Kent wears to conceal his true identity.
I don't know why they're not making any animated Batman series right now
I want JLU to come back on a streaming service. (longer episodes and more adult-oriented.)
They’re trying to do a
@@Frogman1212 Hbo max mate!
@@theunbotheredson Yeah if only. They seem to always be chasing something "new" though.
That opening few seconds...hmmm, Nostalgia.
Superman inspires us to be the best we can be, to look towards the light. The Bat-man shows us what is waiting for us if we stray too far into the shadows of the dark.
Wait Batman's secret superpower was to change cloths within 10 seconds... That beats even Spiderman😱
He's just such an amazing character my fav in fiction
Another villain that represents something of batman is baby doll. Batman never got to experience a child hood, only knowing his life as mostly being an adult. where as babydoll only knew being as a child, but never becoming an actual adult.
"We don't like our heroes deconstructed!"
-crazy folks stuck in the past
Which deconstructions have worked for you?
@@hectordoblado4987 Nolan's and Snyder's
@@og3dkooz381 Any particular reasons as to why?
@@hectordoblado4987 several actually. But also because I don't mind different takes on the characters (even though Snyder's weren't all too off from other comic interpretations). If I want the same old stuff I love I'll watch those films/shows and read those comics.
Always move forward.
@@og3dkooz381 But do you think deconstruction is necessary for characters to live on?
I remember all three of this shows very good my favorite one is the batman 2004
You got it nailed down in a single video things I often think about when people say Batman is boring
I've seen countless video essays on Batman. This, good Sir, is one of the best. Top, 3 easy.
2022 has given me two new favorite interpretations of the character with Reeve’s The Batman & Batman Unburied. I love how sharply Bruce’s trauma is cut into Pattman for the former & Winston Duke’s Batman despite still being traumatized & indebted to the memories of his parents, he’s grown to a place where being Batman doesn’t seem like a burden & has slowly evolved into a role he loves & embraces.
My god that second Batman theme you played at the beginning gave me chills. I love that adaptation of Batman so much and I rarely hear people talk about it, also the theme is kick ass so to hear it in the video was really nice
Wow...GREAT job pulling examples from so many sources...very engaging and entertaining!
Greatest superheroe of all time imo, I remember when I used to be up for hours watching TDK and Batman 1989 and of course Batman the animated series. I personally think Conroy is the best comic adaptation of Bruce and Batman.
Same
This is an amazing video and I’m glad you included a small analysis on Superman praising him and dismissing the idiotic claims that Superman is “boring” cuz he is more powerful and does good things for the sake of good
"The sound of your childhood probably sounded like this."
Me: "I wish..."
that intro just hits different, great job men, i see you blowing up with this video, was really well done
Alright, this vid right here? That's making me subscribe. I would ADORE to see more of these types of vids on characters like Superman and Wonderwoman
11:02 With Great Power, comes Great Responsibility.
Superframe you’ve done it again! A few years ago when I was in college, I first wrote an essay about why I thought Superman was the greatest hero of all time, then I wrote another one about Batman. And after watching this video everything you said about Batman was way better than anything I could’ve thought of to say about him. Excellent job! 👍🏼
Amazing video for an amazing hero like Superman both are examples of what we can become with Superman being the goal to which we ourselves aspire to be and batman being the result and journey of persuing said aspirations.
0:06 mine was definitely like this one
This is the best Batman breakdown ever!! I appreciate it and I'll look up your Superman one👏👏👏👏👏👏
Amazing video. I love how you put Robert Pattinson's epic quote at the beginning.
Batman is like Michael in Godfather 3. Everytime he thinks he's out, they pull him back in.
Man I had completely different idea of batman this video really changed
Awesome breakdown/ analysis
Growing up Batman was my favorite hero too. But as I got older I started to like Superman more because he is someone I would aspire to be more than Batman. No hate for the Dark Knight tho.
Really hope you do Wonder Woman next!
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Interesting. I am the exact opposite. Superman was it for me when I was a kid growing up. Then later on gravitated toward Batman. Perhaps the darker grounded aspects appeal to me more the way my life has progressed as I age.
Still love Superman though.
Batman is so popular, even non-comic readers know him. Why? Because he's batman!
I came here for batman, and I'm not disappointed at all, but I want to especially thank you for that Superman bit and your video about him, more people need to hear it.
This video is missing something... more views! Great work, brother!
Batman..a hero of darkness..a man who understands pain of changing identity. Batman is a born knight of what we need..and a hero..we deserve.
Spiderman also has the best villains and he has the most iconic rogues gallery, next to Batman's rogues gallery.
He really doesn't dude,no one really knew that much about green goblin before mcu
@@barry2349 He really does dude, people did know much about The Green Goblin before the MCU.
@@trevturp6891 not even close to how much people know about batman villans
@@barry2349 That's Bullshit
Can you do one of these character studies on the flash?
Great video thanks for the in-depth analysis
isnt it also cool that since batman dresses as a bat (something evil as you said), his enemies most of the time dress like good things, joker's a clown, bane is a wrestler, poison ivy is a plant, hugo strange is a doctor, harvey is a lawyer and scarecrow is a scarecrow, which is an object that protects crops
For I am more inspired by Batman than Superman because Batman is a man that inspires me to be better despite our limitations as humans to always be our better selves. Whereas for me, Superman is a God that lives amongst man that seeks to better understand the concept of morality than anything else. A God that is incorruptible and altruistic being that seeks the betterment of all humanity. This is how I see both characters but for me, Batman is more relatable because of that but it doesn't make him better than Superman as a character at all. They complement each other and the best of the bromance I have seen in comics.
That first 30 seconds!... I cry. My childhood 😖😖😖🤣😭😭
Got goosebumps on that intro great job!
Batman to me represents self improvement and he has made on impact on my life he motivates me to get better he is part of the reason I workout or try to stop procrastinating or just overall better myself
Shows my favorite childhood superhero and favorite batman in first 10 seconds. Instant like. Im refering to The Batman 2004 cartoon.
It makes so much sense now, unlike spiderman he never met the man who killed his parents so he never got that closure (i think in like 2 animated series he did but i dont think its canon)
He has met Chill in lots of comics including in current continuity. However,nthis was many years after he became Batman, became consumed completely by his mission
Most iconic comic book dialog
I AM BATMAN
What’s your super power again?
Batman: I can change in under 10 seconds
1:27 i came to watch to see what you would say about it, and i am so glad you said this lmao
Another fantastic video, great job man!
I love a good under the mask mini-documentary. You did this so good like all your projects Mitch. Now. Are you excited for the upcoming SnyderCut. Personally I am thrilled. Íve avoided trailers. Hopeing to get a good experience overall.