GIUK Gap Sub Hunt - Operation Atlantic Shield 1/3 - SEA POWER
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I love the ability to do huge missions covering numerous zones of an area. This is HUGEEEE
This scenario demonstrates why NATO spent Billions on the SOSUS sonar array between Greenland-Iceland-UK. "Its a big ocean and my boat is so small."
When the bugs are worked out, this will be one helluva game.
Another note that you may want to inform the developers of: The MK 13 launcher on the O.H. Perry class frigates would have the launcher stowed at 180° train and 90° elevation when not in use. This provides quicker loading and with the back of the launcher exposed to the ship's bow, there is less salt deposited on the loader rail and the probe that interfaces with the missile itself while the bird is on the rail. Great videos
Figs packed a lot of punch in such a little ship. Its amazing the trouble the navy has had replacing it.
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Man, your scenario creating skills are just phenomenal, Nice content! Can you actually in a future video demonstrate how to manually guide a torpedo ?
Thank you. Only recently learned how to guide the torpedoes so it didn't make it into this video
In cases of a torpedo launch malfunction, USN helo crews are trained to yeet a torpedo out the window
Apparently Popeye was in charge of dropping torpedos on that one heli!
I love the fact somebody has basically taken the book red storm rising and made it playable..
Excellent series, thank you for sharing
You should check out Microprose’s game Red Storm Rising from 1988. The game play is good the graphics is basicly just a big tactics view.
@@henrikkarlsson8522 the book has snap shots of every battle being waged , from tanks, to subs, to ships, to Iceland being taken. If the game is like that book then it's epic.
Right down to the russian sub sitting in debris at the mouth of the naval port monitoring and sending signals
La Jolla = La - Hoya. Just to let you know.😉😉😉
Ok my bad
@@Stealth17Gaming Its not a biggie, it just made made wince every time.😂
@@jefferydraper4019 Don't worry. Me too.
I came to the comments to state the same thing. La Hoya, not La Holla.
Just to add to the suggestions, you pronounce it "La-Hoy-ah". The "Hoy" should be like "Ships Ahoy!". I went to school there (University of California San Diego) and know La Jolla well :)
@@jefferydraper4019he said it once and I had to run to the comments lol. I’m not even a bubblehead and that instantly grinded my gears lol.
I don't suppose that SOSUS is modelled in the game?
You should have F-15s and E-3s operating out of Keflavik and the RAF out of Leuchars and Lossiemouth.
Alphas were crazy fast and could very deep because of their titanium hull (which made them inisible to MAD) and large reactor. They were very loud though at anything other than idle/creeping due to their coolant loop pumps. That was eventually phased out with better pumps.
Can't wait to RUN into the Atlantic with an Alpha!
Stealth, here is a scenario you could create where a swarm of fast attack boats attack a capital ship. The scenario could be called "mosquito boat attack" or something like that. Enjoying your videos, especially when it comes to Sea Power. Can't wait to play it
Good one! I'll work on that.
If there is a multiplayer mode this will be a great one to do with friends.
It would be interesting to set up a multi-stage scenario where you tailor the next part of stage of the scenario based on how the previous part went.
For example, let's say the Strait of Hamuz is under Soviet control and a large scale operation is set to change control of the strait. This operation will happen in multiple phases.
Phase 1: A vanguard group of surface ships and submarines is to take out Soviet naval forces guarding the entrance to the strait. These naval group includes a carrier and an unknown number of surface vessels. Your job is to take these vessels out of the fight by either sinking them or damaging them to the point that they can no longer take part in combat operations. The more you deal with, the easier time the secondary phase of the attack will go have.
Phase 2- Any surviving Nato Assets are to join up with a carrier strike group. The strike group's mission is to take out any ports, air bases, and coastal defense batteries in the area as well as any remaining naval forces in the area to in preparation for the third and final phase of the operation.
Phase 3: After receiving a resupply from nearby supply ship, what remains of carrier strike group will make a final push leading an invasion force. The Soviet Navy has pulled the rest of their forces in the area to stop the invasion. Your goal is to protect the landing party so that they can take over Soviet land facilities and take over control of the Strait. Expect an enemy airbase to provide air support to the Soviet forces in the area. The air base is a high priority target and should be taken out to help gain air superiority in the area so that the landing force can safely carry out the operation. Be warned that there is civilian merchant vessels in the area. An E-3 will be sent to aid you in jamming the enemy communication and location enemy forces.
The time period would be the mid to late 80's. Any ships that are damaged will no longer be able to take part in next phase of the operation. Aircraft from the carrier that lost during the second phase will be replaced by aircraft from another carrier outside of the operation zone for the third phase of the operation.
That is the type of scenario that I would like to see played out.
The Bear is one of the reasons why Iceland had F-15s.
13:32 Probably not outright buggy - just unable to turn fast enough to drop the sonobuoy at the right space. Consider that at the speed and altitude you have to drop it a looong distance from the impact point.
Technically you could control an entire war throughout all of the ocean. Not that you have to, but you can.
You know, I really hope Microprose includes nuclear weapons in this game. Of course, they would massively change how the game is played, so you would probably want a mode to restrict them or an ROE system. That said, nobody has really made a game that gets into the nitty gritty of nuclear warfare, and I think we deserve to see it
DEFCON by Introversion Software is probably nitty-gritty enough for you. It even has submarines.
But otherwise, nuclear tipped torpedoes and depth charges are unlikely to make this more interesting.
20:30 :
YEETUS TORPEDUS!
Hey, Stealth! Check this... Remember EA's Strike Fleet for DOS? This game is perfect for recreating the scenarios from Strike Fleet... well... except the Falklands one... (Soon I hope or wait for the inevitable "Sea Power DotMod" 😂)
Don't think we'll get a DotMod as Dot is now a developer for Sea Power
@@Stealth17Gaming So Sea Power is its own DotMod?
Dude puts out more videos than the Ticos VLS SMs
The only one thats make videos with SEA POWER are u dear Stealth, many of the others tubber feel they are only beggers. They are way behind your creative and speed. Now will jag relax and watch this video. Well done.
Thank you but I'd say we each have our own strengths and ways of making videos. I may have more videos that other creators but that doesn't necessarily make them better.
large mission for experienced player, like it.
a good addon to the game would be that helos have limited fuel so that the player would have only a certain time were they can operate them
19:16 your always supposed to drop right on top of the target... you've just been using them wrong which has caused more misses.
Consider popping above and below the layer with your subs (and VDS) every few minutes when you are just searching.
Also, sonobuoys should have a larger radio link range if you fly higher?
Can you make a scenario playing the "Hunt for the Storozhevoy" as the Storozhevoi?
There's going to be loads of extra workshop missions at release at this rate, great move my the devs to let it our early like they have.
Can you please ask the developers to fix the issue with the airborne weapons range.
The higher the speed & hight of a fighter, the greater the range of the weapons especially anti ship missles, also a receding or flanking target will have an effect on the weapons range, the range of the weapons doesn't appear to get greater at higher heights or that's just me.
can we have when we click on our own ship a circle that will automatically show all weapons range?
Is there an option not to show the enemies 3d module unless when in LOS? To add to the realism.
wow a vp 40ds fighting marlin...but the buno number is wrong for 1986... the 159326 is a update 2.5 i believe....vp 40 had upgraded to the update iii by then....how do I know...I know because i picked up 8 of the 9 new update 3 p3c when I was assigned to the squadron from 85 to 88...yes I was the antisubmarine warfare acoustic operator back then...lol...flew almost 1600 hrs crew time in three years.
Please create a scenario with my first boat, USS Henry Clay (SSBN 625). Perhaps an escort mission to launch position. We carried the Poseidon C-3's.
Perhaps your aircraft is having problems because the drops are too close together in order for a plane that size to make that turn in time. Hence it needs to circle around and far enough out to drop where you want it?
use the OHP to ram the subs that are bugging. Maneuver title: Roach stomp
Very cool Scenario, maybe you need a little more time but I love the scale of this.
Yeah time was tight on this one
I suspect you will be able to edit pre-made scenarios you have downloaded from the workshop to add more time to this one for example.
That would be cool to have slightly different variations in missions too
Very cool mission
definetly need static sonar nets
Although the bobbing sub, refusing to die, is annoying, it looks funny at least lol
I love how people complain that the game is buggy... it isn't even released to the public yet, like calm down haha
20:20 This is a bug wrre it launched the torpedo as if it was a depth charge.
I have a request. Team up with Wolfpack where you're creating the scenario and he's playing the one. And vice versa.
I share my scenarios with the other content creators, Wolfpack included. If he doesn't want to do them that's his choice.
You mentioned about 15nm for sonobuoys is it only the help that can get the info from the buoy or is it shared between assets, thanks
It's shared between assets. If you have another asset within 15 nm that works too
Out of curiosity, in the Event Log window, what appears under the Intelligence tab?
Information that the player gets in the form of messages I think. Haven't gotten it to work yet in the editor. Might still be WIP.
That was my 19th birthday. I was serving in the USAF .
didn't know you could loft a torpedo
Really excited about this sim but does anyone know how much it'll cost ?
Are there no British ships or submarines available in this game or is it focused on soviet and US forces as British naval forces have been involved in a number of major conflicts since WW2 such as the Falklands war etc.
Not yet. Royal navy is planned for later I believe
Cool stuff... is there a dance of the vampires mission yet?
Wolfpack did one - th-cam.com/video/Ob5npjC-beo/w-d-xo.html
Would have been more fun if the NATO player had to cover the 3 crossing but the Warsaw only came on one of em.
I like that idea
And I like your videos ;)
Hey Stealth,
La Jolla is of Spanish origin and is pronounced as "la hoy-yah".
Ok thanks
I'm betting you also played your share of Harpoon back in the early 90s. I loved this scenario. But it was so tedious to set up ASW air patrols. Is there a way to automate that in this game?
Actually, now that I look at it, there are far fewer NATO assets in this scenario than there were in the Harpoon scenario I was thinking about.
No I didn't play Harpoon. My first naval games were Sub Command and Dangerous Waters.
Loving these scenarios, but watching these larger fleet engagements raises a question: How were NATO commanders supposed to control nuclear subs in coordinated actions like this? I assume that SSNs like the Los Angeles class had orders (e.g. patrol this area and engage any hostiles), but Sea Power seems to give the player the ability to coordinate SSNs, surface ships and aircraft in near real-time. Is that realistic?
No it's not realistic. Subs are on their own. They might come up to periscope depth to receive messages every once in a while but that's it. This however is a game and doesn't have to be realistic.
@@Stealth17Gaming Gotcha, thanks. It'll be interesting to see if anyone develops "House Rules" for operating SSNs in a more realistic manner during Sea Power missions. E.g. setting up separate areas for SSNs and P-3s/helicopters to operate, so there isn't risk of conflicts and also so the two can't help each other in real-time.
They do have VLF radios that can pick up messages when submerged, but they're receive only and the messages come through slow. Usually the message would just be to come up to periscope depth and receive orders on another channel.
I think at close distances they can talk via an underwater telephone (literally just transmit sounds through the water and receive by hydrophone). But doing so would give away your location same as any other noise.
@@nerd1000ify Cool. Thanks for the additional info!
Finally some epic NATO content!
Its hard to explain in text, but you are pronouncing La Jolla incorrect. Lets see if I can do this phonetically, its pronounce La Hoya. Just an FYI.
Plenty have explained in the comments by now thanks :). You'll hear me mess up 2 more videos though. Recorded them in a batch.
Im really LOVING your videos on Sea Power Stealth!!! Great job sir! Im confused about one thing though, you say your putting these scenerios on steam, for us commoners to play, yet we cant even get the game like you guys, so how do we play a scenerio??
My guess is that all the scenarios will be available when the game goes live in the first week of November?
@@vinitbharucha ok that makes sense. I’m seeing quite a few bugs with the game when Stealth plays it, he says he is sending notes to devs, I just hope they work on this as well
Yes they'll be there when you get the game on November 12th
Very cool
@@robertbennett6410 I do not think there are many bugs there, it’s still pre-EA …
Hey, could you link the video about sonar you were talking about please?
th-cam.com/video/DZwuud-UrBA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=5jAAcbRlOlz54Dv7
@@Stealth17Gaming thank you!
Alright, while I do enjoy these videos, I do find it a bit frustrating that the videos are released so far apart. I understand the members first thing, but it would be great to have the videos that belong together, ie parts one and two or one two and three be released publicly on the same day. Or at the very least in order. Now this is a three partner that will release over the next few days while part two of the scorpion video is not even out.
I really don't wanna sound like an ass here, but it really takes a lot of the enjoyment out of the episodes, knowing you'll be left on a cliffhanger and potentially not even getting to see it resolved in the next video.
So far apart? Next part is tomorrow. Not like weeks apart. There is no part 2 to the Scorpion video.
Releasing 3 videos in a day would be a lot of lost effort as TH-cam's algorithm would not show all parts.
@@Stealth17Gaming i understand.
Maybe it just feels so long because I am so excited for this game, and also because the videos are just so much fun.
In any case, looking forward to the next video.
Also, my mistake on the scorpion video. I thought that was a two parter.
Torpedo Yeeting?
La Hoy Ya
Is SOSUS modeled? As in NATO hydrophones along the line?
No
Deeply flawed. Takes no acct. of allied (NATO) navies contributions.
Usually its not a big deal, and I'm not even from California (but from another state that borders Mexico), but for some reason I can't put my finger on, your mispronunciation of La Jolla has crossed a line ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Jolla
Oh dear, we've crossed a line. What happens now?
@@Stealth17Gaming Only time will tell :P ... Not that I even like La Jolla, its just another moneyed California costal enclave these days, but back in 1976 when the boat was laid down, I am pretty sure that a number of Navy brass had grown up there.
13:32 Probably not outright buggy - just unable to turn fast enough to drop
the sonobuoy at the right space. Consider that at the speed and altitude you have to drop it some distance from the impact point.