All you lads saying EGO won't last, we have a Z6 machine we run commercially cutting housing estates and it's now on 650hrs in this it's 3rd season. We've had zero issues over 3 years with it and have for the first time this season put a spanner to it when we had to change a blade motor because too many impacts finally caused a bearing to go. 3 bolts and £180ish later and it's good as new. I have never ever seen a petrol machine with that kind of a record. I worked 10 years in lawn and garden repair industry and if you get through a season without a pulley or belt failure on a petrol machine I'd be surprised! EGO smashed it out the park with this little machine!!!
First I own a lot of EGO stuff and love it. But some people who are running Gravely or some other quality brand gas unit have tens of thousands of hours on them. I hope yours lasts that long but 650 hours is equal to 27 days.
For a residential mower the battery life is really overkill in the Ego. When would you cut two acres continuously? And if you did, you probably should be using a more commercial grade mower.
I've got a similar sized Kubota stick mower. I love it, and it's great at cutting my ~1acre lot. There's some tricky spots and groundhog-riddled areas, some hills, all the usual challenges. That being said, I can see that my next mower will be an Ego stick mower. The costs of maintenance and fuel on the Kubota make the battery powered zero-turn the better option, at least for my small holding.
Hi James + Josh, Both machines are good in there own right and do a job as good as one another. Yes the EGO battery wont last as long as the John Deere petrol, but saying that when the Ego stops cutting you can still get back to the workshop, when the John Deere stops cutting that's where you stay. That is the advantage of a battery more. As always a great video, like the out takes at the end, more of them please. Catch you soon Take care
I love the idea of an electric zero turn mower. For my lawn (garden) the ones that are able to do the job are way too expensive in the states. This is the price I pay for having a large area to mow. We do use a number of electric machines. The keeping those running is much easier.
Great content guys, get the points over clear, fair testing as your side by side cutting the same stuff. Some comments about not saying the price of the batteries.. what I say to customers is your paying for your fuel up front which can be a stretch for some, however with petrol you go and spend £20 filling a few cans of petrol but "you buy it you burn it" but with batteries you buy it and reuse it for at least the minimum term of your warranty on the batteries... I personally think more finance companies want to get on bored with offering to finance batteries.
I have an Ego ZT6 bought with 4x10Ah for just over 5000euro. That means 2000euro worth of power 3000 for the ZT which spends most of it's time killing bracken and brambles in fields. Perhaps once a month it does rough lawn. The 10Ah is great on my backpack and for those long jobs trimming hedges and useful supplement to my 17Ah of four smaller batteries .
Great video lads and thanks for the time and effort you put into it,once again we are talking about domestic mowers here not commercial as you already stated,its a very interesting and fair comparison between the mowers and they are both priced similarly,i like both petrol and battery but ego wins due to the chute not clogging up once which i personally would find very annoying,keep up these reviews lads because they are very informative,interesting and its very helpful to see them in action but we still all need the stats that go with it too to help inform out decisions
EGO all the way for the target audience, just be careful you do your homework on the batteries you need for your lawn size , they usually come with 15 ah of batteries (2 x 7ah) which is good for around 45 mins of cutting, around half acres house site
Very impressive testing - I'm a bit surprised about the cost/area (7x) ! Even with cheaper costs of gasoline in other areas, I doubt you'd be equally cost effective until you were mowing grass in Saudi Arabia!
Also think of the fact that when you have to replace the batteries, some of the larger size ego battery are close to 350$ and that mower has at least 6.
You better put all that money you save in a tin because when the batteries need to be replaced your savings will be all used up and then some. One battery costs $1500 in Australia.
@@Egleu1 all batteries fail, it’s not a question of if but rather when. Zero consumable parts in gas mowers have the high cost as battery replacement, let alone the cost to part ratio If you want electric, which generally is great, go corded and learn to not be so incompetent you run over the cord… but EVERY battery operated product will need a battery replacement… I hope you learn to calculate those costs ahead of time and prepare… or your going to end up buying a gas machine because it’s cheaper than the battery replacement
Im currently weighing up battery vs petrol, they both have their pros and cons... I think battery hand tools are definitely worth the change 🤷🏾♂️ I was quite impressed with Cramer at groundsfest, you should look at testing some of their gear on the channel?
Watched a few videos of various machines but I can’t find one on the actual battery performance, durability and support when they go wrong That would be extremely useful as no mentioning a battery line but some do seem more prone to failing They are a big investment and having used Makita for years I have found those remarkably durable So a video on battery makes would be highly useful
I own a lot of EGO Stuff including the big snowblower but your test failed miserably and for one thing you left out; cost of the machine and electricity is irrelevant. Each battery costs $400-$500 depending on which ones you have and there are 6 of them. They have a 5 year warranty but plan on getting a max of maybe 8 yrs. Probably less. So, $2400-$3000 every 5 to 8 yrs. You can buy a lot of gas with that. The Deere will be running a decade or longer. With the ego you'll have to repurchase half the machine twice in that time. We do it for convenience but it's going to be an expensive proposition no matter what way you look at it.
Good thing the John Deere never needed an oil change, oil filter, air filter, or gasoline for that decade! Never needed the carburetor cleaned. Never needed a new 12v starter battery…
@@N4HHE That's true, we own ego stuff for the convenience. But still misleading to imply that any of that will make up for $3000 worth of batteries. I've got the EGO 28" snow blower with 12ah batteries. It's been great. I set my 24 yr old Ariens that has never had a repair except a starter cord as a backup. The ego will need $1000 in batteries in 5+ yrs and it won't be working in 23 yrs Maybe 10 yrs. But, we do it because we want to. No regrets because I'm not kidding myself about what I've got.
it’s difficult to say if the Ego lawnmower will be running in 20 years time or not because they were not making these machines 20 years ago. The best we can do is look at other Ego equipment maybe five or seven years old and extrapolate their reliability three or four times to get an estimate. I own a few Ego tools but no lawn mowers. The tools I have, the first I bought in 2018 including the batteries are working fine.
Ego batteries don't need to be that expensive. I guess that's how they make their money. I'd estimate the premium they are charging is 4-6 times what they would cost if priced competitively. The mower as tested had about 2.8kwh of batteries. You can buy a 15kwh LFP battery for £2500 (probably $2500) so you could probably build a battery for the mower for about £500. In which case they could supply the mower with two 2.8kwh as standard or one larger non-swappable one. Battery electric used to be a premium technology but now batteries probably cost 1/10 of what they used to but tool manufacturers still trying to get away with charging a premium price.
@@matthewwakeham2206 there are many offering EGo compatible batteries for less than EGo. None are offering batteries which actually perform up to spec. If you think you can do better then you are more than welcome to try. No doubt in my mind battery prices will fall in the future.
I’d definitely chose the petrol mower as it’s so easy just to put some petrol in. I would love it see how long it takes to charge the 6 batteries or how many it took.
work out how long the battery's will last then the cost of a new set im sure they would be a lot more than an oil filter spark plug and air filter and oil plus there the electric motors more wiring to go wrong petrol wins every time not only for the length of run time but costs of running say 4 years then resale value on battery mower would be worth less
Thanks for the feedback. But don’t forgot the cost of the fuel and several belts, pulleys and bearings. Wiring shouldn’t really make a difference if stored inside away from mice. Most people don’t service their own machines and the labour cost to service a petrol machine is now in the region of £300-350 every year. The components for EGO machines are very cost effective, a blade motor is £180, 3 bolts and takes 10 minutes easy fix with little knowledge. Don’t right them off to quickly, both petrol and battery have their place in the market 👍🏼
@@MachineryNationyou only have to replace belts every ten years or so and even then theres only two? Plus you won’t get 50 years of cutting out of that machine, my trusty sears ss16 has been running since 73 and still runs strong as ever.
Thank you for answering my question ,for me petrol is still ahead in work time especially if you are working as a gardener for others cutting all day .where the battery is more for the home owner just because of the keep charging in time the battery run time will fall.... Be
It's no point for me buying a riding mower with battery power because i use my lawn tractor to more different things than just mowing the lawn and since i have a big lawn i would always use a gas powered lawn tractor.
Unfortunately battery riding lawn mowers are uneconomical and do not provide their owners with any financial benefit at the moment. They are exceptions depending on the owner situation and use case for a battery operated riding lawn mower. Hopefully this will change in the future and parts are available.
I liked the Massey, There is a lot of rebranding out there,I drive an Opel which is actually a Renault. Most machinery is mass produced in a factory in china and a name is stamped on it,
@@MachineryNation definitely. I guess Cub Cadet has patented the system they have on their zero turns with a steering wheel. Perhaps Ego should have a chat to Cub Cadet and try to work out a deal. They could exchange battery tech for steering tech.
From what you’ve done today i’d say battery, but i wouldnt mind seeing the battery under some abuse, aka field headlands, and 3 ish foot grass, i know my z335 deere can do it if i go slow but as you say it does block up, i am genuinly curious not trying to 💩 on the ego i think it is very impressive.
Both nice machines, but i think battery is the way forward, i might have missed something so can i ask a silly question but why don't they just have one big battery fitted like a normal car battery 🤔
Great question Nev. it’s so their batteries can be used in other tools like chainsaws, blowers, hedge trimmer etc. some battery mowers do have one big battery but then that is all that battery can do.
What is expensive about maintenance on a zero turn? Lots of inaccurate info on this video, not to mention how to deal with these massive batteries at end of life.
@@davidmays2161 I agree something better needs to be invented to deal with all waste especially batteries. But there is not any misinformation in the video. The cost of servicing a zero turn with a main dealer is now in the region of £300-350. Please let me know of all the misinformation you have found “lots” as you quote.
@@MachineryNation Mowing 70 hours a year I spend 26 pounds per year to change my ZTM engine and hydraulic oil. I call 300-350 inaccurate, if it's true people are spending that much, it's borderline ignorance.
@@davidmays2161 sorry I thought you said “lots” yeah that very accurate. You should probably change an oil filter, fuel filter, spark plugs, fuel tank and system flush, with 70 hours a year, your blades will be needing sharpening twice a year which means a new set of blades ever 2 years. Also after two years your bearings on main and idler pulleys are also going to heavily worn if not already needing replacing along with your main deck belt. Removing wheels from spindles and applying copper slip, greasing points. Plus if that machine is collected/delivered. And we haven’t even started to discuss dressing the cutter deck. A lot more to a service than just changing oil 👍🏼
@@MachineryNation Ego blades don't need to be sharpened? I guess I will look into one, it will only take 6 charges to mow my estate once! Also 500+ hours, no spark plug changes, fuel filters, air filter changes, or bad bearings, no clue what kinda stumps you are jumping with your zero turn mower.
I just sold me electric zero turn and purchased a petrol cub cadet. I was sick of having to charge my mower three times just to do one full cut of my 1ha property. I can now mow the whole property in one sitting.
Do the research, that John Deere ZTR is absolutely JUNK! The name is licensed & made by a chinese company. Please don’t buy it. JD usually makes good stuff but not this. Please buy either the Ego z6 or any other gas ZTR than this one. You’re welcome!
This. A lot of people argue about the cost of batteries, but it mostly offsets against the cost of gas over a few years' time, and if it costs a little more to have no noise, no maintenance, lighter weight, easier storage and at-home fueling...it's a no brainer.
the problem is that solid state battery are not widely available. slid state battery's are lighter, have a larger capacity and are more powerful than lithium battery's.
@@kokocostanza2036It doesn’t though. Most tool/OPE batteries are only good for about 300 cycles before running into serious issues. They’re a consumable item that needs replaced, and that replacement cost has not been meaningfully lower than getting equivalent work from gas at any point. You don’t get the lifespan from a battery for that to happen. That’s assuming your batteries don’t fail prematurely, which Ego’s (and Chervon’s other brands) have a hogher tendancy to do. The only argument for battery OPE that holds up in the real world is convenience. But a big aspect of that is treating the tool itself as a throw away item as well, otherwise maintenance is a bit of a hassle.
@reaperreaper5098 And if you use the battery once per week during the mowing season, say 30 weeks out of the year, then theoretically the battery would last you a total of 10 years. Even if you only get half of that out of the battery, if you use a gallon of gas per week, at $3 per gallon, that's $90 in fuel over a mowing season. Over the span of 5 years, that's $450 in gas, which would be roughly the price of the battery.
No not when you have a lot of grass to cut. Like you see in this video the battery powered zero turn was out of battery when the John Deere had half a tank of fuel left.
@@BSS22193 nah, I'm just bored 🤣 I love both battery and petrol. They have their pros and cons 😉 I'd love an Ego 42" fabricated deck with Cub cadets synchro steer and double the blade motor power 😉😁👌🏾
All you lads saying EGO won't last, we have a Z6 machine we run commercially cutting housing estates and it's now on 650hrs in this it's 3rd season. We've had zero issues over 3 years with it and have for the first time this season put a spanner to it when we had to change a blade motor because too many impacts finally caused a bearing to go. 3 bolts and £180ish later and it's good as new. I have never ever seen a petrol machine with that kind of a record. I worked 10 years in lawn and garden repair industry and if you get through a season without a pulley or belt failure on a petrol machine I'd be surprised! EGO smashed it out the park with this little machine!!!
Thanks mate, this is the sort of feedback we love 👍🏼
First I own a lot of EGO stuff and love it. But some people who are running Gravely or some other quality brand gas unit have tens of thousands of hours on them. I hope yours lasts that long but 650 hours is equal to 27 days.
For a residential mower the battery life is really overkill in the Ego. When would you cut two acres continuously? And if you did, you probably should be using a more commercial grade mower.
I've got a similar sized Kubota stick mower. I love it, and it's great at cutting my ~1acre lot. There's some tricky spots and groundhog-riddled areas, some hills, all the usual challenges. That being said, I can see that my next mower will be an Ego stick mower. The costs of maintenance and fuel on the Kubota make the battery powered zero-turn the better option, at least for my small holding.
Hi James + Josh, Both machines are good in there own right and do a job as good as one another. Yes the EGO battery wont last as long as the John Deere petrol, but saying that when the Ego stops cutting you can still get back to the workshop, when the John Deere stops cutting that's where you stay. That is the advantage of a battery more.
As always a great video, like the out takes at the end, more of them please. Catch you soon Take care
Thanks Shaun, more outtakes coming up 👍🏼
I love the idea of an electric zero turn mower. For my lawn (garden) the ones that are able to do the job are way too expensive in the states. This is the price I pay for having a large area to mow.
We do use a number of electric machines. The keeping those running is much easier.
Great content guys, get the points over clear, fair testing as your side by side cutting the same stuff. Some comments about not saying the price of the batteries.. what I say to customers is your paying for your fuel up front which can be a stretch for some, however with petrol you go and spend £20 filling a few cans of petrol but "you buy it you burn it" but with batteries you buy it and reuse it for at least the minimum term of your warranty on the batteries... I personally think more finance companies want to get on bored with offering to finance batteries.
Thanks mate, exactly “buying your fuel upfront” 👍🏼
I have an Ego ZT6 bought with 4x10Ah for just over 5000euro. That means 2000euro worth of power 3000 for the ZT which spends most of it's time killing bracken and brambles in fields. Perhaps once a month it does rough lawn. The 10Ah is great on my backpack and for those long jobs trimming hedges and useful supplement to my 17Ah of four smaller batteries .
Thanks Patrick that’s great feedback 👍🏼
Great video lads and thanks for the time and effort you put into it,once again we are talking about domestic mowers here not commercial as you already stated,its a very interesting and fair comparison between the mowers and they are both priced similarly,i like both petrol and battery but ego wins due to the chute not clogging up once which i personally would find very annoying,keep up these reviews lads because they are very informative,interesting and its very helpful to see them in action but we still all need the stats that go with it too to help inform out decisions
Great vid! Can y’all do a video on the Milwaukee 20” saw vs the ego 20” commercial saw please
En route 👍🏼💪🏽
love your video , well done and a good comparison of both machines.
EGO all the way for the target audience, just be careful you do your homework on the batteries you need for your lawn size , they usually come with 15 ah of batteries (2 x 7ah) which is good for around 45 mins of cutting, around half acres house site
Very impressive testing - I'm a bit surprised about the cost/area (7x) ! Even with cheaper costs of gasoline in other areas, I doubt you'd be equally cost effective until you were mowing grass in Saudi Arabia!
This is very true Donald 👍🏼
Also here in states the price for some of these electric mowers is close to buying a commercial grade mower.
Also think of the fact that when you have to replace the batteries, some of the larger size ego battery are close to 350.
Also think of the fact that when you have to replace the batteries, some of the larger size ego battery are close to 350$ and that mower has at least 6.
You better put all that money you save in a tin because when the batteries need to be replaced your savings will be all used up and then some. One battery costs $1500 in Australia.
What about when all the consumable parts on a gas mower need to be replaced?
No where near the cost of batteries
@@tallboy49 100 bucks for tune up, 300 for gas. Do that for 4 years and that covers the batteries.
Would buy one battery@@Egleu1
@@Egleu1 all batteries fail, it’s not a question of if but rather when. Zero consumable parts in gas mowers have the high cost as battery replacement, let alone the cost to part ratio
If you want electric, which generally is great, go corded and learn to not be so incompetent you run over the cord… but EVERY battery operated product will need a battery replacement… I hope you learn to calculate those costs ahead of time and prepare… or your going to end up buying a gas machine because it’s cheaper than the battery replacement
😂😂 that field line was a good one
Hahaha, I heard a farmer say it once so I stole it 😂😂
so at least in the us, these arent comparable if were talking price. the z315 is about 2000 less than the ego.
$1500 for each battery Aust forget it next.petrol under $2 LTR easy choice.
Im currently weighing up battery vs petrol, they both have their pros and cons... I think battery hand tools are definitely worth the change 🤷🏾♂️
I was quite impressed with Cramer at groundsfest, you should look at testing some of their gear on the channel?
Watched a few videos of various machines but I can’t find one on the actual battery performance, durability and support when they go wrong
That would be extremely useful as no mentioning a battery line but some do seem more prone to failing
They are a big investment and having used Makita for years I have found those remarkably durable
So a video on battery makes would be highly useful
A very good Thursday evening to you all
super video😀
Proper job! Appreciate the in-depth information and the clear-cut presentation. Battery powered for me 💪
Great video gents
i have a ego zero turn and it great
How much to charge those batteries? 10lts of aspen fuel must be £45.00… so which is most practical in regards to cost?
We mention this in the video 👍🏼
How many hours did the ego run to quit cutting?
I own a lot of EGO Stuff including the big snowblower but your test failed miserably and for one thing you left out; cost of the machine and electricity is irrelevant. Each battery costs $400-$500 depending on which ones you have and there are 6 of them. They have a 5 year warranty but plan on getting a max of maybe 8 yrs. Probably less. So, $2400-$3000 every 5 to 8 yrs. You can buy a lot of gas with that. The Deere will be running a decade or longer. With the ego you'll have to repurchase half the machine twice in that time. We do it for convenience but it's going to be an expensive proposition no matter what way you look at it.
Good thing the John Deere never needed an oil change, oil filter, air filter, or gasoline for that decade! Never needed the carburetor cleaned. Never needed a new 12v starter battery…
@@N4HHE That's true, we own ego stuff for the convenience. But still misleading to imply that any of that will make up for $3000 worth of batteries. I've got the EGO 28" snow blower with 12ah batteries. It's been great. I set my 24 yr old Ariens that has never had a repair except a starter cord as a backup. The ego will need $1000 in batteries in 5+ yrs and it won't be working in 23 yrs Maybe 10 yrs. But, we do it because we want to. No regrets because I'm not kidding myself about what I've got.
it’s difficult to say if the Ego lawnmower will be running in 20 years time or not because they were not making these machines 20 years ago.
The best we can do is look at other Ego equipment maybe five or seven years old and extrapolate their reliability three or four times to get an estimate. I own a few Ego tools but no lawn mowers. The tools I have, the first I bought in 2018 including the batteries are working fine.
Ego batteries don't need to be that expensive. I guess that's how they make their money. I'd estimate the premium they are charging is 4-6 times what they would cost if priced competitively. The mower as tested had about 2.8kwh of batteries. You can buy a 15kwh LFP battery for £2500 (probably $2500) so you could probably build a battery for the mower for about £500. In which case they could supply the mower with two 2.8kwh as standard or one larger non-swappable one.
Battery electric used to be a premium technology but now batteries probably cost 1/10 of what they used to but tool manufacturers still trying to get away with charging a premium price.
@@matthewwakeham2206 there are many offering EGo compatible batteries for less than EGo. None are offering batteries which actually perform up to spec.
If you think you can do better then you are more than welcome to try.
No doubt in my mind battery prices will fall in the future.
Nice mowing guys...how much did you charge for this job😂
€10.50
@@MachineryNationthe how much did you charge is the standard question on my stuff🙄 £10.50 is the perfect reply😅 cheers 👍. Fair play that ego did well
I’d definitely chose the petrol mower as it’s so easy just to put some petrol in. I would love it see how long it takes to charge the 6 batteries or how many it took.
About 2 hours for all 6 batteries
What are the headphones that you are using ?
work out how long the battery's will last then the cost of a new set im sure they would be a lot more than an oil filter spark plug and air filter and oil plus there the electric motors more wiring to go wrong petrol wins every time not only for the length of run time but costs of running say 4 years then resale value on battery mower would be worth less
Thanks for the feedback. But don’t forgot the cost of the fuel and several belts, pulleys and bearings. Wiring shouldn’t really make a difference if stored inside away from mice.
Most people don’t service their own machines and the labour cost to service a petrol machine is now in the region of £300-350 every year. The components for EGO machines are very cost effective, a blade motor is £180, 3 bolts and takes 10 minutes easy fix with little knowledge. Don’t right them off to quickly, both petrol and battery have their place in the market 👍🏼
@@MachineryNationyou only have to replace belts every ten years or so and even then theres only two? Plus you won’t get 50 years of cutting out of that machine, my trusty sears ss16 has been running since 73 and still runs strong as ever.
Was running in wet grass intentional?
Thank you for answering my question ,for me petrol is still ahead in work time especially if you are working as a gardener for others cutting all day .where the battery is more for the home owner just because of the keep charging in time the battery run time will fall....
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Gas for the win :)
Battery 100%. I'm converting my cylinder mower to battery at the moment. so much less maintenance.
It's no point for me buying a riding mower with battery power because i use my lawn tractor to more different things than just mowing the lawn and since i have a big lawn i would always use a gas powered lawn tractor.
Unfortunately battery riding lawn mowers are uneconomical and do not provide their owners with any financial benefit at the moment. They are exceptions depending on the owner situation and use case for a battery operated riding lawn mower. Hopefully this will change in the future and parts are available.
Your john deere will last 15 plus years the ego battery will last 5 and cost more than its worth to replace
It’s possible the John Deere blades are upside down and not making lift
They were correct 👍🏼
Still prefer the John Deere,or Husqvarna,or cub cadet,or Kubota.
It's a pity Massey Ferguson don't make them anymore.
I think it’s a good thing Massey don’t make them anymore. Well I say make they only ever “rebadged”
I liked the Massey,
There is a lot of rebranding out there,I drive an Opel which is actually a Renault.
Most machinery is mass produced in a factory in china and a name is stamped on it,
Battery is the way to go Can't wait till ego releases there new commercial zoro turn there working on whenever that comes out😂😅
That will be awesome 👍🏼
Formula one wheel on that wheeled ego
The big disappointment of the steering wheel Ego zero turn is the front wheels are still freewheeling caster wheels.
It would be nice if the steering wheel was connected to the wheels, would then also be better on slopes
@@MachineryNation definitely. I guess Cub Cadet has patented the system they have on their zero turns with a steering wheel. Perhaps Ego should have a chat to Cub Cadet and try to work out a deal. They could exchange battery tech for steering tech.
From what you’ve done today i’d say battery, but i wouldnt mind seeing the battery under some abuse, aka field headlands, and 3 ish foot grass, i know my z335 deere can do it if i go slow but as you say it does block up, i am genuinly curious not trying to 💩 on the ego i think it is very impressive.
Trouble is bother mowers are designed to cut that sort of stuff, their lawn mowers. But I get that a lot of people use them for heavier stuff 👍🏼
I'm waiting for battery powered zero turns to match petrol ones. I hate petrol mowers with a passion!
😂😂😂
you cant compare battery to petro until you get a battery that you can charge as quick as you can refuel. sorry that just real live.
Why can’t we compare it? While you drive to the petrol station, I’m enjoying a nice cup of tea 👍🏼
Both nice machines, but i think battery is the way forward, i might have missed something so can i ask a silly question but why don't they just have one big battery fitted like a normal car battery 🤔
Great question Nev. it’s so their batteries can be used in other tools like chainsaws, blowers, hedge trimmer etc. some battery mowers do have one big battery but then that is all that battery can do.
@@MachineryNation never thought of that and you even mentioned it in the video 👍
Options on collect and while you wait for to recharge you can just fill up with petrol and go
The ego is a bit cheaper by my reckoning: 56v * 51ah = 2.8KWh. Assuming 80% charger efficiency thats 3.6KWh in at 22.3p/KWh = £0.80
We certainly went on the higher side with the cost of electric 👍🏼
370r is batty power John Deere
What is expensive about maintenance on a zero turn? Lots of inaccurate info on this video, not to mention how to deal with these massive batteries at end of life.
@@davidmays2161 I agree something better needs to be invented to deal with all waste especially batteries. But there is not any misinformation in the video. The cost of servicing a zero turn with a main dealer is now in the region of £300-350. Please let me know of all the misinformation you have found “lots” as you quote.
@@MachineryNation Mowing 70 hours a year I spend 26 pounds per year to change my ZTM engine and hydraulic oil. I call 300-350 inaccurate, if it's true people are spending that much, it's borderline ignorance.
@@davidmays2161 sorry I thought you said “lots” yeah that very accurate. You should probably change an oil filter, fuel filter, spark plugs, fuel tank and system flush, with 70 hours a year, your blades will be needing sharpening twice a year which means a new set of blades ever 2 years. Also after two years your bearings on main and idler pulleys are also going to heavily worn if not already needing replacing along with your main deck belt. Removing wheels from spindles and applying copper slip, greasing points. Plus if that machine is collected/delivered. And we haven’t even started to discuss dressing the cutter deck. A lot more to a service than just changing oil 👍🏼
@@MachineryNation Ego blades don't need to be sharpened? I guess I will look into one, it will only take 6 charges to mow my estate once!
Also 500+ hours, no spark plug changes, fuel filters, air filter changes, or bad bearings, no clue what kinda stumps you are jumping with your zero turn mower.
I just sold me electric zero turn and purchased a petrol cub cadet. I was sick of having to charge my mower three times just to do one full cut of my 1ha property. I can now mow the whole property in one sitting.
What batteries did you have in the ZT? I have seen them sold with as much as 72Ah and as little as 24Ah
Which brand was that?
its horses for courses realy
Indeed 👍🏼
Do the research, that John Deere ZTR is absolutely JUNK!
The name is licensed & made by a chinese company. Please don’t buy it. JD usually makes good stuff but not this.
Please buy either the Ego z6 or any other gas ZTR than this one. You’re welcome!
Put it this way, for home use it no longer makes sense to have a petrol machine.
This. A lot of people argue about the cost of batteries, but it mostly offsets against the cost of gas over a few years' time, and if it costs a little more to have no noise, no maintenance, lighter weight, easier storage and at-home fueling...it's a no brainer.
the problem is that solid state battery are not widely available. slid state battery's are lighter, have a larger capacity and are more powerful than lithium battery's.
@@kokocostanza2036It doesn’t though. Most tool/OPE batteries are only good for about 300 cycles before running into serious issues. They’re a consumable item that needs replaced, and that replacement cost has not been meaningfully lower than getting equivalent work from gas at any point. You don’t get the lifespan from a battery for that to happen. That’s assuming your batteries don’t fail prematurely, which Ego’s (and Chervon’s other brands) have a hogher tendancy to do.
The only argument for battery OPE that holds up in the real world is convenience. But a big aspect of that is treating the tool itself as a throw away item as well, otherwise maintenance is a bit of a hassle.
@reaperreaper5098 And if you use the battery once per week during the mowing season, say 30 weeks out of the year, then theoretically the battery would last you a total of 10 years. Even if you only get half of that out of the battery, if you use a gallon of gas per week, at $3 per gallon, that's $90 in fuel over a mowing season. Over the span of 5 years, that's $450 in gas, which would be roughly the price of the battery.
@@kokocostanza2036 I as an chainsaw operator spend around 250 euros in gas every month.
Think petrol if you're mowing all day, and Battery for everything else!
For the homeowner battery, for the professional gardener petrol.
Way not the John Deere 370r
Battery for the win 😉
No not when you have a lot of grass to cut. Like you see in this video the battery powered zero turn was out of battery when the John Deere had half a tank of fuel left.
@@BSS22193 battery wins 🙌🏾🙌🏾
@@jordanharetuku9044 You have definitely not watched the video 🤣🤣🤣
@@BSS22193 nah, I'm just bored 🤣
I love both battery and petrol. They have their pros and cons 😉
I'd love an Ego 42" fabricated deck with Cub cadets synchro steer and double the blade motor power 😉😁👌🏾
Love the banter 👍🏼
No thanks....
What a stupid test,