Applied this lesson to this morning's session. It made all the difference. Thanks for taking the time to create this video. I extended the shaft length to avoid bending over so much. It worked for me.
Glad it helped! We'd love to have you down in Nosara for some coaching and great surf. Check out our site and email info@bluezonesup.com when you're ready to visit!
Excellent technique and well explained but technically not actually a "J stroke," (which is a different technique invented and named a hundred years ago by canoeists, that happens by pushing out at the end of the stroke). For what it's worth, this super-effective SUP technique of angling the blade in at the beginning of the stroke is a "nose draw" also called a "canted forward stroke."
I thought exactly the same. Depends a lot of the culture of the sport you're talking about. It's more a C stroke for open canoeist, but myself I used to use that term J stroke for white water or slalom kayaking :)
Excellent video. I switched from 160L sup to 129L sup which caused my sup to change direction eventually caused me to fall. After seeing this video I understand how to stroke. thank you very much.
I prone surfed every sort of board for 35 years before I started SUP surfing. Wish I'd seen this tutorial early on. Mastering, or at getting compitant, the J strike upped my skills in just a couple sessions. You need to J stroke to get any real power and drive in catching waves.
Hi BZ SUP, Thank you. I think that's called the closed faced bow draw stroke / paddle? It helped me a lot after I watched that youtube vid from BIC boards. I just didn't get to your video first. Thank you.
This is really called a C Stroke which is a canoeing flying bow draw (nose draw) turned in to the forward stroke. The J stroke is done on the the stern (tail) where a forward stroke is turned in to a flying stern draw/pry which acts like a rudder
Thanks for the insight David. Yeah, I figured it has been misnamed for years. The vast majority of the sup community calls this stroke the J-stroke. Rather than confuse stand up paddlers, I kept the same familiar name for the stroke. Perhaps we should start a push to correct ourselves or we could just own it as there really is not a common use for a classic J stroke off the tail as in canoeing.
@@BlueZoneSUP You have been an amazing ambassador for SUP, and have worked hard at trying to grow SUP in the US and elsewhere, so thank you for that! However, I think the SUP community should respect the terms that have been in use for a century in the canoeing (and rafting, and kayaking) communities, especially as SUP is a much new sport. We should also think about a common vocabulary because we are beginning to see a lot more cross-over amongst paddle sports - many top sprint canoe racers are also paddling SUP, and there are top SUP paddlers who also kayak or surfski, not to mention the strong history between OC / va'a and SUP with paddlers like Danny Ching, Travis Grant, Titu, the Tahitians... I saw your video in my "recommended" list almost a year ago, but I didn't bother watching it because I knew that a true J-stroke is useless on a SUP (and may actually cause you to fall off your board!). Now I'm working on an article on SUP technique and decided to see what it was that you were calling a "J-stroke." We correctly use the term cross-bow in SUP, which comes from canoeing, so why accept, and promote, the incorrectly used term "J-stroke" for what is a flying bow draw or nose draw? And if by "own it" as you wrote above you mean the SUP community should stubbornly stick to using "J-stroke" for a bow draw, I hope you will consider that this might just make SUPers sound arrogant and ill-informed in the broader world of paddle sports.
Actually I'd argue J-stroke is correct - the reason is that that on a SUP your stability comes from rear fins, whereas canoes get stability from the nose so J-stroke can be taken to mean stroking in/out at the end where it's most effective.
Hey Chase, thanks for this. I love this level of detail in a tutorial. I'm also a big fan of the podcast. This is really great when surfing forehand - what's the best technique for paddling in to a backhand wave?
Hi David. Thanks for tuning in. Technique is technique is the same for paddling in back hand. The J-stroke can be used on either side of your board, or only one side, to help you go in any direction. Email info@bluezonesup.com and I'm happy to go into more detail if you have other questions.
Great pro quality video. Very helpful, thanks. Any modification for paddling a FOIL board? It seems easier to tilt a foil board in the direction you want to go. Maybe combine tilting with the j stroke?
I have a question.. I've been surfing for over 25 years and have recently jumped down from a 9'5 160L Sup to a 7'4 106 Hypernut Sup. It's obviously a lot different and I've got used to the lack of glide and the way the board tracks. However, one thing is really frustrating. I'm a goofy footer so when I'm paddling toe side into waves I've got it worked out. However, where I surf there is often a strong rip to the North which means a lot of the time I find myself padding toe side parallel to the beach which means that a set comes in I often have to switch the paddle to the other side so the nose of the board is directed towards the beach (otherwise if I keep paddling on toe side I'll end up heading out to sea). Even when paddling with a J stroke (or whatever it's called :) where I can paddle the same side without turning it still does not solve my issue as even going in a straight line I cant direct the nose of the board to the beach which is what I need to enter into the waves. When I switch sides it obviously messes up the timing and momentum meaning I'm missing lots of waves I would have not on my bigger sup. I'm just wondering if there is a technique that I can use to help with this...
Thanks for the message. The J-stroke (or whatever it is called 😊) will be the solution. I know you are saying it's being used but you're likely not using it correctly. More practice will help. Watch the tutorial again and continue to apply the technique. Stick with it and you'll be tracking into waves soon!
Confusineg terms... In slalom or white water kayaking for the same stroke I used J stroke name and learned after to tell it C stroke as it is its name for open canoe paddlers, as the J-stroke is something else... Nice explainations though.
Really helpful, nice breakdown. I find that I have issues doing the J-stroke on one side (which is typically my dominant side taking off on a wave) - it just feels awkward, working on it.
Glad you liked it! Yes, most paddlers definitely have a strong and weak side (myself included). The nice thing about the J-stroke is that it will allow you to paddle mostly on your strong side. There's nothing wrong with doing this. However, it is good to be somewhat balanced.
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Bro a J stroke is actually a steering stroke that happens at the back end of the stroke this is all good information but the stroke ur talking about is a bow draw. J stroke makes a J at the exit
This is a 7'6, 92 liter board. You'll want to start on something much bigger. Feel free to email info@bluezonesup.com and I'm happy to answer your questions and help you choose your first sup surf board.
This was so helpful. I watched this a few weeks ago and I've been practicing. It makes catching waves so much easier
한국인 sup 입문자 입니다
한국에는 sup 타는사람이 많이없어서 배우기 힘든데
한글 번역해 주어서 고마워요 앞으로도 번역 부탁 드려요 감사합니다
the dude on the big easy made it extra worth watching this video! thank you
This video changed my life. Thanks for the explanation. Spent the last few days frustrated going every which way, then watched this. Night and day.
We love to hear this David!
Applied this lesson to this morning's session. It made all the difference. Thanks for taking the time to create this video.
I extended the shaft length to avoid bending over so much. It worked for me.
Great to hear it helped you Tim!
Great tips, thanks. I'm far away from wave surfing, but good to know.
Thank you, that was really helpful, looking down the line, and the technique of the J Stroke, will do, thanks again!
Well explained, thank you for sharing the stoke Chase🏄🏼♂️
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Excellent video!!! You just solved a problem I started to face after going to smaller sup. Now back to the sea to train on this stroke...
Glad it helped! We'd love to have you down in Nosara for some coaching and great surf. Check out our site and email info@bluezonesup.com when you're ready to visit!
I ll try it tomorrow morning!
Excellent technique and well explained but technically not actually a "J stroke," (which is a different technique invented and named a hundred years ago by canoeists, that happens by pushing out at the end of the stroke). For what it's worth, this super-effective SUP
technique of angling the blade in at the beginning of the stroke is a "nose draw" also called a "canted forward stroke."
I thought exactly the same. Depends a lot of the culture of the sport you're talking about. It's more a C stroke for open canoeist, but myself I used to use that term J stroke for white water or slalom kayaking :)
Excellent video. I switched from 160L sup to 129L sup which caused my sup to change direction eventually caused me to fall. After seeing this video I understand how to stroke. thank you very much.
Can't believe I never figured that out brilliant
Very instructive SUP techniques for wave riding.
I prone surfed every sort of board for 35 years before I started SUP surfing. Wish I'd seen this tutorial early on. Mastering, or at getting compitant, the J strike
upped my skills in just a couple sessions.
You need to J stroke to get any real power and drive in catching waves.
Glad it helped you Michael! Yeah, it's a real game changer when you use this technique.
Love seeing the fins behind the surfer...I think he needs a bigger board.
Rays! : )
Hi BZ SUP,
Thank you. I think that's called the closed faced bow draw stroke / paddle? It helped me a lot after I watched that youtube vid from BIC boards. I just didn't get to your video first. Thank you.
He almost slapped that kid with the board haha really helpful video!
Love your tutorials.
I’m attentive to doing this on my weak side also thank you very much brother
This is really called a C Stroke which is a canoeing flying bow draw (nose draw) turned in to the forward stroke. The J stroke is done on the the stern (tail) where a forward stroke is turned in to a flying stern draw/pry which acts like a rudder
Thanks for the insight David. Yeah, I figured it has been misnamed for years. The vast majority of the sup community calls this stroke the J-stroke. Rather than confuse stand up paddlers, I kept the same familiar name for the stroke. Perhaps we should start a push to correct ourselves or we could just own it as there really is not a common use for a classic J stroke off the tail as in canoeing.
@@BlueZoneSUP You have been an amazing ambassador for SUP, and have worked hard at trying to grow SUP in the US and elsewhere, so thank you for that! However, I think the SUP community should respect the terms that have been in use for a century in the canoeing (and rafting, and kayaking) communities, especially as SUP is a much new sport. We should also think about a common vocabulary because we are beginning to see a lot more cross-over amongst paddle sports - many top sprint canoe racers are also paddling SUP, and there are top SUP paddlers who also kayak or surfski, not to mention the strong history between OC / va'a and SUP with paddlers like Danny Ching, Travis Grant, Titu, the Tahitians...
I saw your video in my "recommended" list almost a year ago, but I didn't bother watching it because I knew that a true J-stroke is useless on a SUP (and may actually cause you to fall off your board!). Now I'm working on an article on SUP technique and decided to see what it was that you were calling a "J-stroke." We correctly use the term cross-bow in SUP, which comes from canoeing, so why accept, and promote, the incorrectly used term "J-stroke" for what is a flying bow draw or nose draw? And if by "own it" as you wrote above you mean the SUP community should stubbornly stick to using "J-stroke" for a bow draw, I hope you will consider that this might just make SUPers sound arrogant and ill-informed in the broader world of paddle sports.
Actually I'd argue J-stroke is correct - the reason is that that on a SUP your stability comes from rear fins, whereas canoes get stability from the nose so J-stroke can be taken to mean stroking in/out at the end where it's most effective.
Thanks for the tip on the J stroke.
Happy to help! Check out our website and send an email to info@bluezonesup.com whenever you're ready to visit. Thanks for watching.
Brilliant. Thank you
Right on bro!
Great Vid, very professional. Thanks for taking the time to produce and share, good technical stuff to show friends and students 🤙🏽
Thanks for watching!
Hey Chase, thanks for this. I love this level of detail in a tutorial. I'm also a big fan of the podcast. This is really great when surfing forehand - what's the best technique for paddling in to a backhand wave?
Hi David. Thanks for tuning in. Technique is technique is the same for paddling in back hand. The J-stroke can be used on either side of your board, or only one side, to help you go in any direction. Email info@bluezonesup.com and I'm happy to go into more detail if you have other questions.
Great pro quality video. Very helpful, thanks. Any modification for paddling a FOIL board? It seems easier to tilt a foil board in the direction you want to go. Maybe combine tilting with the j stroke?
Thanks a lot man for this video, as for all the rest!
Great content
Wondering if anyone knows what differences there might be surfing backside in terms of paddle and foot placement.
We have a whole video dedicated to it! Check out our tutorial, How to Improve your Backside SUP Surfing. Let us know how it goes for you!
I have a question.. I've been surfing for over 25 years and have recently jumped down from a 9'5 160L Sup to a 7'4 106 Hypernut Sup. It's obviously a lot different and I've got used to the lack of glide and the way the board tracks. However, one thing is really frustrating. I'm a goofy footer so when I'm paddling toe side into waves I've got it worked out. However, where I surf there is often a strong rip to the North which means a lot of the time I find myself padding toe side parallel to the beach which means that a set comes in I often have to switch the paddle to the other side so the nose of the board is directed towards the beach (otherwise if I keep paddling on toe side I'll end up heading out to sea). Even when paddling with a J stroke (or whatever it's called :) where I can paddle the same side without turning it still does not solve my issue as even going in a straight line I cant direct the nose of the board to the beach which is what I need to enter into the waves. When I switch sides it obviously messes up the timing and momentum meaning I'm missing lots of waves I would have not on my bigger sup. I'm just wondering if there is a technique that I can use to help with this...
Thanks for the message. The J-stroke (or whatever it is called 😊) will be the solution. I know you are saying it's being used but you're likely not using it correctly. More practice will help. Watch the tutorial again and continue to apply the technique. Stick with it and you'll be tracking into waves soon!
Great tutorial bro!
Thanks Robert!
Confusineg terms... In slalom or white water kayaking for the same stroke I used J stroke name and learned after to tell it C stroke as it is its name for open canoe paddlers, as the J-stroke is something else... Nice explainations though.
Really helpful, nice breakdown. I find that I have issues doing the J-stroke on one side (which is typically my dominant side taking off on a wave) - it just feels awkward, working on it.
Glad you liked it! Yes, most paddlers definitely have a strong and weak side (myself included). The nice thing about the J-stroke is that it will allow you to paddle mostly on your strong side. There's nothing wrong with doing this. However, it is good to be somewhat balanced.
Great tutorial thanks for sharing!
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Bro a J stroke is actually a steering stroke that happens at the back end of the stroke this is all good information but the stroke ur talking about is a bow draw. J stroke makes a J at the exit
Excellent!! Earned a sub
Hey good content, what size board is this? I have a 12’0 Touring board, used to surf looking to try sup surfing
This is a 7'6, 92 liter board. You'll want to start on something much bigger. Feel free to email info@bluezonesup.com and I'm happy to answer your questions and help you choose your first sup surf board.
6:02 What's in the water behind you?
Eagle rays cruising. Good eye! : )
They also appear at the very first seconds of the video
Are those sharks behind you at the very begining of tge video ? Or dolphins ?
Birds?
Sting rays : )
Skills 🌊🤙🏽
thx, this helped!!!
0:10 are those sharks? Or dolfins
excelente , seria bueno con subtitulos en español
"angle of my shaft." hahaha..thanks for the video
Am I the only one who noticed fins behind him in the distance?
Yep. Rays!
Thank you for adding Japanese footage, but the translation doesn't make any sense though.
To sneak into a couple of bombs at big Lowers while surfing from Churches.
shark there :/
Sting rays : )
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