How to Paddle Out in Bigger Surf on a SUP
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- Showing in slow motion various techniques and strategies for getting through the rows of whitewash and the impact zone so we can ride more tasty waves. Breaking the technique down and describing how to do it, why, and when.
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Dude, your mission statement "our purpose" is beautiful, thank you.
Been surfing my sup for a few years and was never really taught how to get out past the break. Your video was a huge help and can't wait to get out there and try these techniques!
Kai Lenny is a force of nature..!
This is one that I'll Bookmark and keep. It's an honest talk through getting out and what might work and might not. Thanks
Wow. Went back to my sup tonight.. been a year or two. Moved back to the beach.. focused on the short board, and just kept getting beat up. Tonight was a calm looking night, high tide, and just mellow. Got out there, and broke on past the breaks, and was able to focus on the waves breaking first toward the beach. What a difference. On my knees, I was able to take some strokes, and get forward momentum, then when I felt the board sliding down, popped up. I caught so many waves this wave it was an epiphany. Hooked.
Beautifully made thanks
Love this. Feeling confident about going out next.
Bro that was literally the best paddle out SUP video I've ever watched nobody's ever helped me more your superchill bra love it!!!!!!
Great info. Im looking forward to going out for my first time. Thank you.
Thanks for this. Struggling and getting in patient with my progress and not only catching a wave but also be able to deal with getting stuck inside given I can’t like I would on a body board. Will be checking out your other videos as well!!
Awesome and detailed explanation, thank you
Excellent sup tutorial thanks!
So helpful! Thanks for this!
Thanks for your video, very informative. I appreciate you making it.
This was a great video! Thanks for posting...I'll be using all your advice. I just bought a VESL SUP 11'6" and I'm new to the sport. I'm psyched to get out there - mainly to ride some waves! Your video is excellent and gives me confidence to get going!! :)
Great video. Super helpful. Thank you
It is videos like this that help us rookie SUPers see the techniques that work! I have practised the techniques in this video on my last few wave sessions and they work. In fact, paddling out is almost as much fun as catching a wave. It requires skill and good balance and it is satisfying if you can make it out back without falling off. I think you even earn a little respect from the prone surfers when they see you riding up and over each wave as you paddle out (even on an iSUP!). Thanks.
greenstick100 You're welcome and thanks for the great feedback! Glad to hear this helps!
You posted 2 yrs ago. Are you still paddling? Any “lessons learned”?
Thank you for this video!
I feel like my overall SUP surfing has improved from this channel honestly, so thorough,.
That's fantastic! Thanks so much for the feedback.
@@clayisland my SUP surfing was improved too
So helpful! Great video and analysis/commentary.
D S Thanks!
You videos are always great my friend. Thanks for this one. Please keep it up! 🤙🏼🏄🏽
Giovani Mazza You're welcome, and I will!
So good man. thank you!
Gracias por Compartir!!!
great video and explanation. thank you
Really well-done video!
Thanks!
Awesome tips... cheers man
Great info thanks man
Going to be heading out for the first time in a few days. This has given me a lot of great things to think about. Thanks!
You're welcome! Love to hear a report on how it goes!
this video was good! full of techniques and monuvers... very helpful
sloth sloth Thanks!
great video and breakdown of what the pro's went thru at the REDBULL Heavy Water. Your instruction is perfect and supports everything my wife and I have learned. Your right, be careful of your face when climbing over larger Wave's. My wife sustained a broken nose and several stitches last month. I have also gotten over my pride and often go out on my knees. The margin for not getting out is slim so I paddle like crazy even if from my knees. Thanks again.
Cliff Bernard Thanks and you're welcome! Love the feedback, and hope your wife is okay.
4th week in and your videos help!!!
Awesome!
You have an great collection of videos. I don't step back, although I am back on the board in general when paddling out. I put a lot of weight on my back foot as the wave approaches and then I often take a step forward while crouched. Doing so helps keep me from falling backwards and tends to keep my board from flying off to the left or right as the nose goes over the wave. I have also had a board in the face, not fun. YMMV.
Awesome ! ☀️🏄🏼
Great video. I surf in the river on a SUP and have only tried it twice in the ocean. Very helpful and also motivational, knowing that it's normal to get knocked around and off your board when trying to make it past the break. Thanks for your video!
Joshua Coleman You're welcome
This is good stuff! Great work. Keep it up.
bjywong Thanks
Your voice is so calming
Thank you
thanks , some good tips for my next trip out
Great info👊🏼
Great techniques...thanks for the video.
Captain Velveeta Thanks and you're welcome!
Thank for a nice relaxed look at some techniques, from here on my sofa I might have to go get me a paddle board and rewind my life 10 years :-)
Thanks so much. I really enjoyed watching this vid.
Ewan Melling Flavell You're welcome!
Some solid advice Brah! Thanks!
I learned real quick that the old 'eskimo roll' technique I used on my longboards and from Surf Lifesaving was super bad on a SUP because the paddle adds so much extra hassle under water... Up and over is for sure the easiest way!
Danny R Right on! Thanks and you're welcome :)
Good stuff ..Thanks!
Mahalo for the tips! 🤙🏽
great vid thanks very much
Love your videos!
Wade Lawson Sweet!
good stuff! thanks
Great tips! Super helpful! 🤙🏽
Thanks!
Always super helpful and inspiring video's. 😎👍🏄♂️
C B Thanks.
Another great vid. Really appreciate them. I remember the first time i got smashed in the face by my sup. Shocked the hell out of me.
Love the tips! I can't tell you how many times I've been bashed in the crash zone trying to get out. Always thought going under, board and all would do the trick, but there's too much volume. The last one, kick the board over and go under is one I will try! Going out on the knees to save time and get more distance right away is a great idea. I am also wing foiling and wonder what will be necessary to get through this kind of surf if down in the water. Thanks for your great footage and instruction!
thanks for the tips brother)
Thank you 🔥🔥🔥
Super helpful
Great tips thanks. That "over/under" move at 8:10 was beautiful.
wrybread You're welcome.
great video man thx
Cool. I've had to learn to choose my battles with rough surf. Sometimes I don't bother or look for another spot. These techniques are worth learning.
Thanks
Guy Witscher You're welcome, glad to hear these techniques are worthwhile.
Your wisdom applies to the wily and unpredictable lake ontario surfz whish is - usually only up when the onshore gale force breezes blow- thanx for the tips- I used to be quite agile at my old home in the reefy glassy warm tropics- now i relocated to the northern border of the good ol U S and switched to a SUP- now im stoked if a 2 footer doesn't pummel me....I am still puzzling on where the paddle goes once I start dropping in....
Cheers Dude!
real helpful! Thanks!!
Alex Bentley Excellent, you're welcome!
Thanks for the tips. I will need them for my beach trip and race at Dana Point. Usually I spend my time eating it for three or four weeks.
willis richardson You're welcome and I hope they help.
Yo thanks for making this. I wanna take my sup to the beach. Just not sure how to get past the surf.
Search this on youtube: VADER retired PADDLE boarding on LA RIVER (Narrated by Jones Earl James) - S2E1 The River Wild full
Thank you for that!
Colin Guinn You're welcome.
Great video!!
Thanks!
Clay, I saw the "ClayIsland" and thought that was you. This is Sean "Feral In Baja" Callahan. I was going to try and message you the other day to ask advice on a Franken-Paddle I'm putting together (Oval Blade stem, round Paddle Shaft) they're both good parts, but I'm having to adapt. GREAT VIDEO!!! I'm back in the Baja beachbreak tubes, after 7 months off living in NE Tijuana war zone. Your video game is seriously on point. Gonna get back on the Zone, I was off it after someone really classist-vibed me out. I'm touchy about that, so I stayed away for like a year or more. So many cool people, I'm going back. Cool vibes, great video, thanks for the stoke!
Hi Sean, good to hear from you! Glad you are back on the zone, bad vibes can be rough. Thanks for the good words and you are welcome for the stoke!
A great video. We are not blessed with the greatest waves on the English Channel, however these techniques are really great.
Great video and tips, thanks!
Right on, you're welcome!
One tip I teach is during wipeouts and/or while in the water after a wipeout, to not hold on to anything like the handle, leash and leash string. A few folks have had finger tips pulled off, twisted, or shoulders worked trying to control vs let go of the board. I also use surfco rubber fins to avoid fin cuts.
This is really helpful. I surf beach break most often and any tips to fell more confident pushing over the white water are appreciated.
Josiah Ambrose Right on, glad it's helpful! Thanks for the feedback.
Great great video about how to get through the impact zone particularly at a place like OCEAN BEACH, San Francisco which is by far the hardest place (hands down) to get out at. I have been surfing thiis place my whole life and there is one big important thing you didn't include. What makes Ocean Beach so tough is because not only are you having to deal with navigating through the east to west direction of the waves, you are ALSO are dealing with the North to South directions of the (depending upon the tides...) currents which create mini whirpools and which surfers get stuck in. THE FIRST THING I was taught about surfing Ocean Beach is that YOU NEVER try to paddle straight out. You always have to paddle out at an angle and if you are paddling in you also have to surf and paddle at an angle as well , otherwise you will never make any head way. You were saying that surfers have to know where that open gap is in order to make it out. ...... GOOD LUCK BUDDY .. hahaha.... There are a million different variables which create that gap and you are right, it's all about luck and timing and nothing else. People who think they can get out like a point break are in for a real shocker. Another trick I was taught many years ago was to always start above or below the point you want to end up at. If the tide is incoming, the current will be going North into the Bay and therefor you want to start going out from south of the place you want to arrive at outside the impact zone. If the current is outgoing tides, that means the current will be travelling north to south and therefore you want to start north of the point you want to arrive at. Depending upon the difference in the tides and the swell will determine how far you should begin from your starting point. For example if there is a 6 foot difference from high to low and it's a big swell, than you want to start at least 20 - 30 yards above where you want to end up at because you are going to drift very very fast in a southern direction when you begin to go out.......Cheers and keep making those SUP videos.....hope to meet you in the water some day...
I also do the 2 step to get over waves. Works. Great with SoCali waves from chest to ^^
good info thx for sharing
igortxi06 You're welcome
Great info and video! I got smacked straight to the face with my board a couple months ago going over a wave, so will definitely use this👍🏼-Graci
Ouch! I hope this is helpful! Thanks
cool thanks 👍👍👍👍
Is that ocean beach? Just got my first SUP board. Excited to try it out when it is small. Looks like the best spot is Kirkam. Never tried an SUP but I think I can make it out on a small day at high tide. would be cool to cruz North or south past the breakers! Nice video. Thanks for sharing.
Hardest part well explained - the surfing is easy - thx
Thank you, and you are most welcome.
if you come from a skating bakground, its basically like trying to ollie but the wave really makes it pop up
Thanks
Nice Brahda ! I just bought a SUP this year it’s 256L 9’8 30” wide . I’ve been out on it 5 times this year . I’m getting the hang of it I rather be on my Short board rippin on waves then a SUP but I’m enjoying it on them flat 2 ft days lol ... well I agree man I always knee paddle out gain a bunch of speed and once I get past the white water foam balls I jump up on my feet it’s much faster to paddle out like that staying lower to the board gives u more speed ... keep it up brother Yeww 🤙🏽
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Went out for 1st time today on sup (to surf) and instinctively kneeled to get out ( long time boater, kayaker and prone surfer ) just seemed like the thing to do ( not sure if it is looked down upon) .. lots to learn and your vid is so well done ..thanks for taking the time
How did that technique work for you? I'm a River kayaker, converted to SUP. Ready to try the surf next.
@@Mrjmhill worked well in the waters I was in ..( Florida beaches ) especially when it gets too messy... however, have seen more advanced paddlers lay down prone on suoceith paddle under and paddle out like surfboard
@@Mrjmhill lay down prone on sup and paddle it like a surfboard ( kneeling worked fine though )
Ray O mine also has a collapsible seat.. I’m going to take mine to the gulf next month to give it a try. I’ll try seated like a kayak too...
@@Mrjmhill have fun ..very addicting
I sort-of do the same thing Kai does. Step forward or even bird-hop forward when the whitewater is nice and even.
Great!
To me it's one of the biggest mysteries of all time how these guys get out. I mean I'm already having a hard time on a shortboard.
thanks super helpful
Cassidy Tutsch You're welcome.
Great material for development here! (and thanks for confirming I am on the right track with "Timing and Knee Paddling").
d cartier Thanks and you're welcome.
Nice collection of tips. I wish I had seen this when I started SUP surfing. I came at surfing from a kayak and waveski surfing background and found that the advice to always hit the white water head on sometimes is not so good on a sup board if you are trying to knee paddle, if you quarter the wave and sweep the nose of the board around with a powerful sweep stroke you can force the nose to slide over the white water, you save getting hit in the face or knocked over backwards.
SeadartVSG Thanks
Right on thanks for sharing I know Zane 😄🤙🏼
Sweet, good to hear from you, I've seen and enjoyed your videos over the years.
Search this on youtube: VADER retired PADDLE boarding on LA RIVER (Narrated by Jones Earl James) - S2E1 The River Wild full
clayisland hey wow small world 😄🤙🏼
Great video. A couple of questions for you. 1. Are you and some of your friends using iSUP in those size waves? 2. Have you encounters problems losing your paddle when falling off?
Jean-François Karam Hi, Thanks! Yet to try an isup or see one in the surf. My paddle stays close to me, the few times I have let it go I have retrieved it quickly.
Thanks a lot for this. Now I don't feel so bad about getting caught inside every now and then, or going on my knees when i need to!
Philip May you're welcome
Hey Clayisland, what up great video explanation. What type of mount camera you have in your SUP?
Hi and thanks! I make my own bamboo camera mounts: clayisland.com/building-with-bamboo
You're so cool bro😎❤️🤙🏼
Hey there. Love your channel. Thanks for sharing. I’ve been a trad/prone surfer for 30 years and just started supping. I’m wondering about a couple of things I never had to consider before. First - surfing in New England in the winter can be fun but obviously freaking cold. Do suppers ever use dry suits? Also,, even though I’ve always been a long boarder, i’m not used to riding such a mammoth board. Do guys ever use helmets and/or life vests? Kinda worried about getting knocked out if i’m out there alone in a winter day - which I often am. Thanks!
Well done! Lot's of good content and information.
Bill King Thanks!
I'm trying to determine what's a good size/length paddle to use for sup surfing. It's seems like the one I've used for flat water paddling is just too big. Any guidelines regarding sup surfing paddle choice?
Hi Bill, good question. I suggest borrow/rent/demo an adjustable paddle and try different shaft lengths to see what feels right for you. And try as many different blade sizes and shapes as you can, see if one feels better than the other. Last but not least FLEX, if you can try shafts that are stiff and or flexy and see if one feels better than the other. I like a smaller blade and flexy shaft, and length depends on how high I am off the water.
Thanks for that advice. Good stuff!
Bill King You're welcome!
ZOWIE!!! What a great video! Thanks so much for making this for us. Ditto on the calm voice and great tips. I live on a small lake and just bought my first SUP (at age 66). ☺ I absolutely love it! I'm a total rookie so your information and excellent video production are invaluable. I'm going to be out on the water as much as possible before Colorado's cold season sets in. I'm trying to prepare to take on the ocean in January in Kauai. I was told it's safest to stay PARALLEL to the waves initially. Is this correct? Also, do you have any recommendations on buying and using an ankle strap? One didn't come with my board. Thanks again. ☺
Hi Linda, thanks for the feedback. Hawaii in the winter can serious, I would recommend seeking a local guide. Leashes I change with the condtions, in bigger more powerful surf I prefer a coil leash that doesn't tug as hard on my leg.
Hi Linda I just got my first sup too at 56
Really enjoying it .
patience and swallow your pride, so true.
Awesome vid dude!!! Greetings from zarautz!!!
James McOwen Thanks again and for the greetings! Great to hear from you.
James McOwen Awe wow I googled Zarautz. We're practically neighbors, I stayed in San Sebastian for 10 days. We drove up to Bilboa and then Mundaka on the way back, and probably through Zarautz on the way. Small world!
Great help thanks alot I have alot of anxiety about big waves I'm fine surfing on them but I'm scared to ge t out! One question would those techniques work on my 7.7 fish tail?
Nirvana Sup I hear you. I have felt anxious on a SUP in waves that I feel at ease on a prone board. Ummm I have yet to try my Simmons shape in bigger waves, I am more at home on a pulled in shape with more rocker. I know guys have gone out at OB up to double overhead on fishy shapes, unsure how they do it...maybe try the techniques in smaller waves first?
nice video! what kind of board are you riding on?
Parece que aprendemos más si vemos caídas que no bajadas perfectas de olas
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Hey clay are you wearing an impact vest in some of the video. I surf alone a fair bit and am considering a vest and helmet. Solo surfs on rocky points cause me some anxiety!
Yes, the vest I like in smaller surf, in bigger more powerful surf it gets pulled over my head and traps my arms, for that I prefer the impact suit or wearing a vest under my wetsuit.