@@A7xFo What a lovely way of thinking about it! Not like he was suffering immensely with mental health issues and being practically tortured online by haters! Shut the fuck up bro you are actually a horrible human being if thats how you think about things
Hey dude, thanks for the shoutout! :D Crazy to hear my name along all of these WoW Legends, but I appreciated the mention and enjoyed the video :) Keep up the good work! :D
Arthas144 ...i can put my life on you not being above 2k in pvp nor killing heroic ...hell even normal blackhand as with all people who throw around the term lfr hero =3
Vurtne is the real deal here! he TOUGHT everyone how to pvp.. he went frost when fire was thought to be the best.. he was enginered to the bone and used every single game mechanic out there to outplay and outsmart players! He was skilled before skill was a thing! What a god!
He was influential to those who saw his videos, most top tier players don't even know who he is tbh Was he good? No. He killed undergeared randoms in Vanilla and was barely heard from when BC came out.
Hotted89 Very old fan of yours, man. Went to the gaming section of Walmart today and your face is on the Razer display for the keyboards :D congratulations!
I dont get it when he keeps saying 'by todays standards'. Really tho today people have soo many more counter abilities making pvp easier in general, whereas in vanilla/BC/some of Wotlk there werent so many options = if you screw up or fall for a fake cast then you most likely lost. Then he says keyboard turning.. this isnt a twitch shooter, I'm sure alot of people keyboard turn/click and are quite good. You might get smoked by some of them time to time.. who knows.
he is saying by todays standart because the players in vanilla and today cant be compared because the game wasnt out a long time. So today a player has what 10 years game experience and back then about 4 months, of course today player are a lot better (well some)
The guy who made the video just seems like a numpty. Vurtne was amazing then and would probably be amazing now. He changed and adapted his play style. The reason people are better now is because they use more addons, along with better peripherals like Razer Naga mouses with the extra buttons and all that shit. Wouldn't surprise me if Vurtne played on some shitty pc when he was making his videos and barely getting the fps people get today from their pc's. I still rate Vurtne above so many people and for him to rate him so lowly kinda shows he didn't play much if at all back then, as I remember people absolutely going crazy about Vurtne when I was playing back in 2006, he was an innovator for WoW and showed how good mechanics could beat amazing gear.
The video seems pretty biased towards most of the newer streamers. A lot of the Vanilla / BC players that build WoW's pvp scene aren't even mentioned...
Grimm, Kikshumen, Maydie, Mahiko, "General" Pat, Dewdrop, Unbreackable, Thott, Neylio, Akrios, Ming...And these are off the top of my head.Real legends.
In my opinion Laintime deserves a spot or a mention. He was a warrior back in Vanilla who revolutionized "Stance Dancing" for the warrior class as arms. Glad to see some old players made the list though. Not sure if I agree with a bunch of the newer generation of WoW players making the list though. WoW has honestly gone down hill ever since Cataclysm.
***** probably my fav pvp player of all time, he was such a good warrior back in vanilla, using everything to his advantage and making some 1v4, he has learned how to play to other warrior
Gotta agree on this one with you. The mascot of Stature of the Gods, Zalgradis. He had some pretty nifty ways of engineering combined with auto attacks, made him a pain in the ass for rogues. I was on Al'Akir back then and he was a real celebrity. Thanks for mentioning this. This was a nostalgic feel tour for me!
Npc CHILL I will always remember that video of Grimm ganking that warrior who had just made Thunderfury, and had just lost a duel to Zalgradis. There he is, at 1 hp, with a legendary weapon, surrounded by over 40 of his guild mates, and this undead rogue backstabs him, sprints, and vanishes away.
+Cobb He was a rad Rogue, made some good guides! Also wish the mage Albis from vanilla was on this list, first awesome pvp videos I ever saw with ahead of it's time editing!
+Cobb Exactly my thoughts. This guy makes me to play rogue back in the day and for me the 14,5 brutvenge vid was absolutely awesome. This was also the first time i´ve seen vanish blind and Akrios vs Neilyo is the best rogue vs rogue video ever
Gurushockin Venruki was on my original list but I spoke to many pvpers to try and make the best list I could and this was the most agreed upon list, I like both venriki and cdew myself.
TheLazyPeon influential or best ? If BEST, then you missed leaving Thyraz off. I like Hotted and think hes a good player but Thyraz is the best Boomy ive ever seen play the game
Gurushockin TheLazyPeon Influential? Cdew/Venruki? Hardly. Cdew is famous because he's a Blizzcon/MLG hero, Venruki is famous for getting sh*t on when beastcleave made its way into the arena scene. Not even on the top 50 :p
Basically, having Sulfuras and full rank 14 gear with Leather/mail crit off pieces and the 2% crit trinket made it possible to sometimes get double windfury crits. The chances were like 10%. But then again, back then the whole pvp system was a full grind in BGs, so enough opportunity. I think I made the biggest mistake of my life by selling the account just before tbc hit. I got good money, but there were precious memories in it too.
1. *Vurtne* (greatest Mage in history, influenced majority of the Undead Mages, popularized Engineering and showcased 1v4 fights against players who outnumbered him. The man was way ahead of his time, and was known as the ganker back in Vanilla. Vurtne influenced the Mage community to next levels. If you were to meet Vurtne in Vanilla, it was best to turn back and run away) 2. *Hydra* (greatest Arena WoW player ever, most R1 titles and influenced alot of players to try Arena. Arena god right here and who set the bar for Priest Arena gameplays. If you have never heard of Hydra, your living under a rock) 3. *Drakedog* (greatest Warlock player in history, popularized/invented the succubus CC method and was (one of) the first Warlock movie creator on WCM. He set the standards for Destruction Warlocks) 4. *Swifty* (highly influential warrior, known for his Warrior tricks, Warrior tips, Warrior strategies and TH-cam real life videos wich went on to influence alot of people. Due to his popularity it's understandable that he is one of the players on WoW that changed the history of Warriors and the community of WoW) 5. *Noone* (this one is kinda my opinion, because of this guy I started playing mage and he was doing all the stuff that Vurtne did aswell, continuing his legacy and at a time where WoW was at its finest. Sure there are more legendary players that influenced the community but, these 5 stand out the most for me.
I think he was. atleast for me. he continued the legacy of Vurtne imo. I wanted him to be #1 top skilled in 2008 on WCM. unfortunately hes been placed #2 behind Neilyo i believe.
Grimm was one of the most influential players of vanilla wow. No question. I personally was heavily influenced by Zalgradis, he was using prot pally/engineering to tank his way through multiple targets. Was amazing to see bc prot pally just wasn’t a mainstay for pvp
My favorite was Pat (Tauren Warrior) from back in Vanilla. His video from Sept. 2008 is something I still watch every now and then today even though I quit playing the game a long time ago. :]
Gebirges (Zockt Games) He had Gurthalak, it's the equivalent of walking in the park when you have 10,000 tentacles pulling 20% of the damage and 50% of the kills for you. Especially the fact that it triggered on rend ticks, meaning you think you got away from the mighty bajheera.... 2 seconds left on rend and a tentacle kills you.
Venruki, Sodah, Woundman, Pookz, Sonny, Vidra and Hoodrich were all influential AF for me. Jigz was a great member of the community for his guides and general chill attitude.
These are just 10 of them, i'm sure i've missed some good ones from back in the day such as Grim. 1. Swifty 2. Athene 3. Drakedog 4. Fiveshot 5. Brang 6. Vurtne 7. Klinda 8. Beevis 9. Pat 10. Maydie
***** That's debatable honestly, I respect your opinion, but Hotted has more popularity now that Swifty got him sponsored by Razer and Hotted stayed with Swifty and Bajheera. He's extremely popular. He's trolled a lot, but he does well!
Missed some kick-ass players like rogues Perkulator, Grim, Khuna, Unmercey, Doomstep and Niar, mages - Faxmonkey, Xmo, Razghul, BEBEP, Flekz, hirnfrost, Healingproof, Emdee, Otherguy and Noone, spriest Xantim, warlocks - Boneshock, Kenwood, Emka and Vaelisious, druids - Thefatcow, warriors - Garthd and Geforce, Laintime and many many more. I probably missed many but typed in the ones i could remember. pretty much all the good players left the game and the ones that are still playing either not making videos or stream. gg wow its been fun while it lasted.
You missed the point of the video. Those players you named weren't as INFLUENTIAL as the ones listed here. I'm sure they were great players, but they didn't make as much of an impact as these guys for various reasons. Again, INFLUENTIAL.
+Miguel Robles as a vanilla player who lost track of wow over the years I agree with his list. Drakedog, Otherguy (Sorrow Hill series), Laintime, Xantim etc. were my personal heroes back in the day.
+Mazxlol ive seen that video of unmercey and one frost mage. 2's arena in wotlk, they have 18k hp gear and they win 40k hp full geared wrathfull :D kenwood is right next to drakedog cobrak and adouken to me
@@Alexandros.Mograine He is even today better then the most players. His microcontrol and theorycrafting is insane and not many people can handle it even today.. And the fact is that WOW is running smoother today and "delay" is not a thing anymore and the game is so simplified. Still they cant do what he does.
Comprehensive list in no particular order: *Rogues* : Grim (vanilla), Neilyo (the forever champion), Ming (the robot), Buddhist (god of style), Akrios(pushed mutilate meta), Woundman(final boss), Krymu (rogue/mage god), Acrono (invented shadowstep meta), Khuna (RMP king), Kalimist (MVP) *Mages* : Vurtne(invented pvp), Bepep(fire meta creator), Gameking(Korean god), Roswend (Secret god
Pat is always the first that comes to mind for me when thinking PvP videos. Even tho I didn't play warrior back then, he certainly was part of the reason I made one at the end of vanilla.
Oh and I am pretty certain Swifty didn't reach grand marshal in vanilla, think he only made it to rank 13 Marshal. He got rank14 in the new rated BGs. I think not sure
Shabir Parwaz He could have reached grand marshal if he wanted to but he didnt even need it, he was in one of the best raiding guilds at the time and he had weapons that were better then the grand marshal weapons. he was being lazily smart. listen to his voice over'd version of his first warrior tricks video, he explains it.
+Regalya i take it you play BGs with no buffs then. he recorded on the day warriors had 1 extra talent for Death Wish and Recklesness which got him those insane numbers back then, and i sat there with my lvl 35 rogue with envy.
No Akrios? Lame... Four of them on there could have gone to make room for that legend. Watch the last three Eviscerate videos (8, 9, & X) and Six Silent Shadows. Hands down the best World PvPer, video editor at his time, and duelist.
Grim, Niar, Zalgradis (or Zalgadis, cant remember, the pally), Saerdna, Orangemermelade, Francis, Sarotti, Alca (or Alcha), Gegon, Albis, Maydie, Jackthe7th, Laintime, Pat, Otherguy, the guy from "The world of Roguecraft", Faxmonkey, Shyou, Gameking, Noone ... I know I still miss a lot of players but here are the ones that comes to my mind that are not listed on the video. There are shit loads of videos that comes to my mind but cant really remember the name of the creator and should waste a lot of hours to investigate so ... thumbs up if you found my list somehow useful.
I'm gonna take that question as serious and no sarcasm and respond with yes, at times it is. I've never personally been in a Bg with anyone that had higher than 40 kbs. Plus in pvp you have a better chance of more people attacking you at once so the higher your death chance. But to get 104 killing blows in 15 minutes, he must've been buffed, pocket healers surrounding him, 1 or 2 more dps with him, and fully enchanted newest seasoned gear. It's insane to me actually.
Ferelun kills in a bg dosnt mean anything, let's be honest. what you do in bg's is farm bots and noobs with low gear, cause that's who you find in bg's
Liberty Prime Hahaha, i swear, queue for some arenas and fight an WLS comp, you'll cry at the end of the match seeing the amount of damage dealt by the Affliction Warlock, it's just insane.
Filocre Pandastic ... yeah the damage that is just meter padding tbh, unless you let him get a haunt and several full drain souls off, it will just tickle...
I don't understand how Vurtne is so far down. He literally defined the mage class and how it should be played - flashing ahead of time and pulling off some iceblock reaction times that was RIDICULOUS. Maybe, just maybe some really good PvP mages can pull that shit off on the regular these days, but saying he wasn't as skilled compared to now, is not true at all. The jump turn itself, the iceblock deathcoils, the blink pre-charge on warriors and Will of Forsaken at the exact same time as its done getting casted, like... He's number 1. He really is. Him or Drakedog, not Swifty. Swifty definitely had influence way back in Vanilla, but he was never good at PvP. He had good gear, a healer and that was it. He backpedealed all the time, I think I've only ever seen Vurtne do it once, not to mention how Vurtne knew to take advantage of jump climbing.
Man nice list. I personally would have added: These are all from Vanilla. 1. Maydie / Human / Arms Warrior 2. Mute / Undead / Rogue (can't remember spec) 3. Hulksmash / Orc / Fury Warrior 4. Zetla / Undead / Arcane Mage 5. Unbreakable / Orc / 2 HD Enhancement Shaman 6. Pat / Tauren / Arms Warrior 7 Panda / Night Elf / Priest This was at least the people I use to watch quite a bit. Just my opinion.
Sodapoppin is cool but I personally I don't watch his stuff as 'his community' are imho are worse than the LoL communities reputation makes it out to be.
RemnantOfThePast Hahaha, yes they are clearly an army of trolls and 13 yo but the streamer himself aka Sodapoppin wasn't that bad. I regret the fact that he now do shit stuff like getting drunk on stream, betting money, etc but he used to be a very chill guy and an awesome player, so yeah, i don't think we should do those quick judgements.
RemnantOfThePast We are really bad, we know it and Soda knows it, but there's no changing it. Either way, doesn't change the fact that our senpai Sodapoppin is good.
Jonas Staats i have seen many different streamers communitys and they talk to their chat and have conversations, seeing sodapoppins chat is full of people spamming emotes and other dumb things and he calls you retards and hates all of you but enjoys the money he gets, so he tolerates you
Vurtne is dominating Tier 2 Rogues while only wearing Tier 0 gear... that's quite impressive, while he's also being outnumbered by them, too - I learned how to dominate on a Mage by watching Faxmonkey; he showed me the maximum potential of a Mage pre-BC and vastly boosted my abilities in both PvE/PvP to the point I got on the Hordes PvP A-Team w/in weeks after watching the videos. I thank him for vastly increasing my knowledge of the class.
Laintime. Ahead of his time when the game hasn’t even been out for a year. NO ONE could outmatch his technical agility and awareness. His 1vMultiples were just damn satisfying, even to this day.
I'm amazed you haven't put GeForce the Undead warrior legend on the chinese/korean servers and also one of the best warrior video makers, many times better than swifty in that regard.
pretty much agree with your choices even with honorable mentions ... i loved drakedog back in the day ... ive used to play a warlock a lot before just because of him ;)
TheLazyPeon To let you know, Vurtne returned in MoP and still plays to this day... How do i know? well, played with him all the way, and went to become pretty good friends with him eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/laughing-skull/Vurtne/simple Here is his armory, you might not belive me, but trust me, its him...
I do not think he looks very own is my friend and wow does not play the most from TB so you're saying an idiot and I bet you do not even know his name her real name,
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World of roguecraft... now that was influential..
koffiegast this
Ahh, those windfury crits. Whenever I'd see them in this video, I'd explode in nostalgia. :)
Nice video, Shrek.
Nixxiom Machinima I see what you did there. ( ´◔‿ゝ◔`)
Lawl :P
Did somebody just say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of Windseeker]?
Nixxiom Machinima Nixxiom, why aren't you on the list?
***** I did. Whatchoo guunaa doouu??
RIP Reckful a legend taken too soon
He killed himself. Most selfish thing a person can do. He CHOSE to end his life, so he wasn't "taken too soon".
@@A7xFo What a lovely way of thinking about it! Not like he was suffering immensely with mental health issues and being practically tortured online by haters! Shut the fuck up bro you are actually a horrible human being if thats how you think about things
It was in his family already
Hey dude, thanks for the shoutout! :D Crazy to hear my name along all of these WoW Legends, but I appreciated the mention and enjoyed the video :) Keep up the good work! :D
BajheeraWoW bajheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeraaaaaaaaa
BajheeraWoW To be honest, I skipped when your name came up.
Bajheera, your one of the cockiest people I have ever seen, playing WoW. Warriors are probably the easiest class to play, don't be THAT proud, champ.
Wat?
Ravinick TheRav are..are you...for real right now? go home you're drunk.
Nobbel should be on this list cause he lay down the lore smack down on players.
***** Yes because a Lore PvE player belongs on a PvP list
Arctic Nova Nova you look neck deep in seriousness. Thick gooey seriousness.
***** Yes, an lfr hero should be number one in a pvp vid.. #riot
Arthas144 ...i can put my life on you not being above 2k in pvp nor killing heroic ...hell even normal blackhand as with all people who throw around the term lfr hero =3
allen b Not subbed, so you're 100% right.
Vurtne is the real deal here! he TOUGHT everyone how to pvp.. he went frost when fire was thought to be the best.. he was enginered to the bone and used every single game mechanic out there to outplay and outsmart players! He was skilled before skill was a thing! What a god!
WELL SAID.
He didn’t teach you how to spell?
out of all vanilla pvpers who made videos, he was the most skilled one
This is old...Most of these guys might make the top 100 now.
He was influential to those who saw his videos, most top tier players don't even know who he is tbh
Was he good? No.
He killed undergeared randoms in Vanilla and was barely heard from when BC came out.
Thanks for the mention :D
Hotted89 Very old fan of yours, man. Went to the gaming section of Walmart today and your face is on the Razer display for the keyboards :D congratulations!
Hotted89 hottttteeeeeeed
Hotted89 OpieOP
Hotted89 Hotteeeeeeeeed !!!
HOTTED! :D
Pat should have been on this list. His pvp video was amazing back then and def inspired me to roll a warrior.
YES! His second videos intro clip is STILL! One of the most entertaining pvp clips out there. Pat? Maydie and Grim!
Yes!! I've been trying to find some mention of pat. I thought I was the only one
Commissar Gamza YOU CANT HURT ME NO
Commissar Gamza he's not that good in pvp :/
eaterofworlds9 its the most influential players, not the best. It really doesn't matter how good he was. Most players sucked in vanilla anyway.
Vurtne is for sure still amazing by today's standards
I dont get it when he keeps saying 'by todays standards'. Really tho today people have soo many more counter abilities making pvp easier in general, whereas in vanilla/BC/some of Wotlk there werent so many options = if you screw up or fall for a fake cast then you most likely lost. Then he says keyboard turning.. this isnt a twitch shooter, I'm sure alot of people keyboard turn/click and are quite good. You might get smoked by some of them time to time.. who knows.
he is saying by todays standart because the players in vanilla and today cant be compared because the game wasnt out a long time. So today a player has what 10 years game experience and back then about 4 months, of course today player are a lot better (well some)
tioner was the strongest and the best player in world of warcraft 2014 but he stopped playing world of warcraft
The guy who made the video just seems like a numpty. Vurtne was amazing then and would probably be amazing now. He changed and adapted his play style. The reason people are better now is because they use more addons, along with better peripherals like Razer Naga mouses with the extra buttons and all that shit.
Wouldn't surprise me if Vurtne played on some shitty pc when he was making his videos and barely getting the fps people get today from their pc's. I still rate Vurtne above so many people and for him to rate him so lowly kinda shows he didn't play much if at all back then, as I remember people absolutely going crazy about Vurtne when I was playing back in 2006, he was an innovator for WoW and showed how good mechanics could beat amazing gear.
I saw Vurtne in SW once, then I died
=O I made the list. Haha, thanks for the mention man =]
Cobrak cobraaaaaaak
Cobrak what's ur twitch? :o
Thanxyy casteas16
Cobrak COOBBRRAKK
Cobrak best!
The video seems pretty biased towards most of the newer streamers. A lot of the Vanilla / BC players that build WoW's pvp scene aren't even mentioned...
Grimm, Kikshumen, Maydie, Mahiko, "General" Pat, Dewdrop, Unbreackable, Thott, Neylio, Akrios, Ming...And these are off the top of my head.Real legends.
Neilyo :)
true, but all of these stopped after vanilla and BC, atleast being influencial.
Don't forget Buddhist. God i loved this guy
Nookiezilla
Badrasta-firepower (vanilla)
i agree with this list, although i'd like to see Grim frim vanilla on this list. defently deserves a mention
grim for vanilla* the rogue
+Latzabb PvP Who is Grim, this is no1 !!!
In my opinion Laintime deserves a spot or a mention. He was a warrior back in Vanilla who revolutionized "Stance Dancing" for the warrior class as arms. Glad to see some old players made the list though. Not sure if I agree with a bunch of the newer generation of WoW players making the list though. WoW has honestly gone down hill ever since Cataclysm.
Laintime should def be on the list. He showed the world how to pvp before most of the people on this list knew pvp existed.
***** probably my fav pvp player of all time, he was such a good warrior back in vanilla, using everything to his advantage and making some 1v4, he has learned how to play to other warrior
***** Lol totally forgot about that name, so cool! :D He was very impressive with the dancing
+RivalStrife def deserves, Laintime was my #1 inspiration :)
+RivalStrife totally agree, Laintime and Grim for example were legends in vanilla.
RiP Reckful. I'll miss you.
I love your new shrek profile picture.
Dcoolest It's an orc dammit
Dcoolest That looks nothing close to me!
Obama Bin Laden anyone who is anti shrek is a sad piece of shit that only finds humor in being a penis face
Shrek The Ogre youre not shrek! shreks in my basement.
TheLazyPeon I don't like it looks like an ogre they're right. Aren't you sopose to be an Orc. :|
I'm sorry, but Zalgradis and Grimm should have been on this list.
Gotta agree on this one with you. The mascot of Stature of the Gods, Zalgradis. He had some pretty nifty ways of engineering combined with auto attacks, made him a pain in the ass for rogues.
I was on Al'Akir back then and he was a real celebrity. Thanks for mentioning this. This was a nostalgic feel tour for me!
Shabir Parwaz gotta appreciate the guys that made Vanilla Pvp Seem cool even when so much seemed broken.
Npc CHILL I will always remember that video of Grimm ganking that warrior who had just made Thunderfury, and had just lost a duel to Zalgradis. There he is, at 1 hp, with a legendary weapon, surrounded by over 40 of his guild mates, and this undead rogue backstabs him, sprints, and vanishes away.
Npc CHILL Grim is who inspired me to roll my rogue that I stuck with for years.
Chris Ruzin Grim inspired me to make a rogue too back in classic, and loved it ever since, total annihilation is my favorite wow video :)
Vurtne is still crazy in todays standards. So I have no idea what you're talking about. Pretty random list tbh...
@ i think he is talking about the comment in the video, so yeah, use ur head
Idk dude he only has the default bar on. I use more binds than that bar even fits buttons..
@@tobeymaguire9371 he is hiding his bars that have keybinds on them.
Yeah good old days
I'll just mention him cus no one else does: Neilyo
+Cobb He was a rad Rogue, made some good guides!
Also wish the mage Albis from vanilla was on this list, first awesome pvp videos I ever saw with ahead of it's time editing!
+Dan Priz He was R1 in 2011. not bad by any means, just not the best.
Mark Beckmann™
True, none are necessarily bad either though. It's all opinion until you factor in statistics and whatnot but who cares, right?
+Cobb Was seriously about to say that. No one was more talked about in the pvp scene during TBC then him.
+Cobb Exactly my thoughts. This guy makes me to play rogue back in the day and for me the 14,5 brutvenge vid was absolutely awesome. This was also the first time i´ve seen vanish blind and Akrios vs Neilyo is the best rogue vs rogue video ever
Not a bad list. Would have loved to have seen Venruki and Cdew make the honorable mentions though
Gurushockin Venruki was on my original list but I spoke to many pvpers to try and make the best list I could and this was the most agreed upon list, I like both venriki and cdew myself.
Gurushockin What about Flynn? He was a big inspiration for me starting a mage
TheLazyPeon influential or best ? If BEST, then you missed leaving Thyraz off. I like Hotted and think hes a good player but Thyraz is the best Boomy ive ever seen play the game
Ryan Pellegrini Have you seen Lazerchicken play? That guy almost carried his team when they won Blizzcon 2014
Gurushockin TheLazyPeon Influential? Cdew/Venruki? Hardly. Cdew is famous because he's a Blizzcon/MLG hero, Venruki is famous for getting sh*t on when beastcleave made its way into the arena scene. Not even on the top 50 :p
rest in peace reckful 😔 thanks for making wow fun
Thanks for the honorable mention mate! Great video!
- Shabir / High Warlord Unbreakable
Shabir Parwaz The legend himself! :D
Basically, having Sulfuras and full rank 14 gear with Leather/mail crit off pieces and the 2% crit trinket made it possible to sometimes get double windfury crits. The chances were like 10%. But then again, back then the whole pvp system was a full grind in BGs, so enough opportunity. I think I made the biggest mistake of my life by selling the account just before tbc hit. I got good money, but there were precious memories in it too.
You're the real Unbreakable????
where is pilavpowa???
+Srbinlol He is funny but he was never influential.
Pellyx pilav is warrior rank 1 stand the fuck up
Pee love
Pellyx
Pilav was never funny
what he said ?
1. *Vurtne* (greatest Mage in history, influenced majority of the Undead Mages, popularized Engineering and showcased 1v4 fights against players who outnumbered him. The man was way ahead of his time, and was known as the ganker back in Vanilla. Vurtne influenced the Mage community to next levels. If you were to meet Vurtne in Vanilla, it was best to turn back and run away)
2. *Hydra* (greatest Arena WoW player ever, most R1 titles and influenced alot of players to try Arena. Arena god right here and who set the bar for Priest Arena gameplays. If you have never heard of Hydra, your living under a rock)
3. *Drakedog* (greatest Warlock player in history, popularized/invented the succubus CC method and was (one of) the first Warlock movie creator on WCM. He set the standards for Destruction Warlocks)
4. *Swifty* (highly influential warrior, known for his Warrior tricks, Warrior tips, Warrior strategies and TH-cam real life videos wich went on to influence alot of people. Due to his popularity it's understandable that he is one of the players on WoW that changed the history of Warriors and the community of WoW)
5. *Noone* (this one is kinda my opinion, because of this guy I started playing mage and he was doing all the stuff that Vurtne did aswell, continuing his legacy and at a time where WoW was at its finest.
Sure there are more legendary players that influenced the community but, these 5 stand out the most for me.
I think he was. atleast for me. he continued the legacy of Vurtne imo.
I wanted him to be #1 top skilled in 2008 on WCM. unfortunately hes been placed #2 behind Neilyo i believe.
***** Hij is zoiezo gewoon influential voor de mage community. Maar is ook mijn lijst. iedereen eigen mening
***** Sommige in deze lijst verdienen dat niet eens. Reckful bijvoorbeeld. Noone over reckful all day.
***** en de mensen die tegenwoordig invloedrijk zijn zijn newschool mensen die twitchen all day, en 15 jarige naar hun kijken. zo influential man..
How can you not have Laintime in there o.O
I've never really watched any PvP TH-camrs, but this video got me wanting to check some out!
So no one is going to comment on this now that pixelcat is known?
Aw man, no Grim or Pat :(
And Loke the paladin
Indeimaus yeah they were easily the two most influential. As well as unbreakable and maydie.
or laintime
@mrsh4des if you played vanilla you would know just how influental swifty was, he became so popular after the incredible warrior tricks
laintime was probably the best warrior.... whoever just said maydie, no.
Grimm was one of the most influential players of vanilla wow. No question. I personally was heavily influenced by Zalgradis, he was using prot pally/engineering to tank his way through multiple targets. Was amazing to see bc prot pally just wasn’t a mainstay for pvp
My favorite was Pat (Tauren Warrior) from back in Vanilla. His video from Sept. 2008 is something I still watch every now and then today even though I quit playing the game a long time ago. :]
+Pirwzy And I always hated PvP in WoW.
+Pirwzy he was so unskill
I was thinking of Pat and Mercader
+Georgy Iliev fuck Mercader
-merc out
Some epic heavy metal music in that video!
Bajheera with over 100 kills in a single bg? wtf, I don't even get my 20-0 achivement...
Wayne Reuter he doesnt ask people to do it either lol they just heal him becuase they know hes Bajheera
Gebirges (Zockt Games) He had Gurthalak, it's the equivalent of walking in the park when you have 10,000 tentacles pulling 20% of the damage and 50% of the kills for you. Especially the fact that it triggered on rend ticks, meaning you think you got away from the mighty bajheera.... 2 seconds left on rend and a tentacle kills you.
Gebirges (Zockt Games) internet fame bonus... :/
Gebirges (Zockt Games) yh he join the bg with 9 full geared healers lol
Gebirges (Zockt Games) sometimes he got picket heals :P also he is a great player. so he just destroys everything lol
vurtne was a god fot mages.
For me he still is
Venruki, Sodah, Woundman, Pookz, Sonny, Vidra and Hoodrich were all influential AF for me. Jigz was a great member of the community for his guides and general chill attitude.
Thyraz, Morpheus, Pilav? I'm a litte bit disappointed, green jesus MLG shrekmaster :(
Pilav? Athene wannabe you mean? Sorry, but no ..
venktesh rao Exactly.
Shabir Parwaz he may be a wannabe but he has fucking skills..
Buddy Doge Yeah, I said that without thinking this is the list of most ''influential'' players not the ''best'' players.
Insumia Yes, he should get more viewers. He is indeed the best demo lock on youtube,
Wher's Pilav??!?!?
Reinis Ramans sane thing I thought
In the trashcan
Raging in the LFG RBG accept queues Keepo
@@GuiltyNoticer Still he is more INFLUENTAL than Vurtne.. u obv didnt understand what this video is about.
These are just 10 of them, i'm sure i've missed some good ones from back in the day such as Grim.
1. Swifty
2. Athene
3. Drakedog
4. Fiveshot
5. Brang
6. Vurtne
7. Klinda
8. Beevis
9. Pat
10. Maydie
I don't like hotted, I'd rather watch thyraz, I don't see why you didn't mention him when he is HUGE and the MOST WELL KNOWN BOOMIE.
***** That's debatable honestly, I respect your opinion, but Hotted has more popularity now that Swifty got him sponsored by Razer and Hotted stayed with Swifty and Bajheera. He's extremely popular. He's trolled a lot, but he does well!
compare hotted's videos on boomie to thyraz, it's a no-contest.
***** The list is based on influence not quality, therefore popularity > skill as mentioned for two of the vanilla players that were in this list.
how is hotted more popular than thyraz xD
idk :x but he does associate with swifty so maybe that's why?
Vurtne is still a legend.
Grim was awesome, he should have made the list:)
i wish blizzard would give this community more love
vomCzumHzumRIS that would break imersion though :P
How is it possible to forget Grim? And Vurtne should be higher up on the list.
i had the honour of playing with grim back in vanilla, he was the best rogue i've ever played with AND against
Missed some kick-ass players like rogues Perkulator, Grim, Khuna, Unmercey, Doomstep and Niar, mages - Faxmonkey, Xmo, Razghul, BEBEP, Flekz, hirnfrost, Healingproof, Emdee, Otherguy and Noone, spriest Xantim, warlocks - Boneshock, Kenwood, Emka and Vaelisious, druids - Thefatcow, warriors - Garthd and Geforce, Laintime and many many more. I probably missed many but typed in the ones i could remember. pretty much all the good players left the game and the ones that are still playing either not making videos or stream. gg wow its been fun while it lasted.
You missed the point of the video. Those players you named weren't as INFLUENTIAL as the ones listed here. I'm sure they were great players, but they didn't make as much of an impact as these guys for various reasons. Again, INFLUENTIAL.
+Miguel Robles For me I think Niar, Grim + vurtne and drakedog were the most influential players back in vanilla.
+Mazxlol Druid - Azgaz and I'm glad you mentioned Otherguy (probably one of the best, first mages the game has ever seen)
+Miguel Robles as a vanilla player who lost track of wow over the years I agree with his list. Drakedog, Otherguy (Sorrow Hill series), Laintime, Xantim etc. were my personal heroes back in the day.
+Mazxlol ive seen that video of unmercey and one frost mage. 2's arena in wotlk, they have 18k hp gear and they win 40k hp full geared wrathfull :D kenwood is right next to drakedog cobrak and adouken to me
Nice top 10, bud :).
***** Yo :D.
Drek McMeme I'm not. I wouldn't consider myself an influential PvP, especially when compared to the greats in this video.
not a single mention of maydie, his pvp video made me try pvp for the first time instead of tanking pve
his most memorable feat is getting killed in world of roguecraft with a 0.9 dps dagger.
B E A V I S ! ! !
^ this guy knows what's up. Beavis was a legend!
Beavis is still my hero!
koTeukoNord Beavis was god mode enhancement shaman and where the hell is Pat on this list?
And from vanilla Cabbarnuke as shammy
People forget about the german shaman god
Vurtne "his skill may not be impressive today"? Are you kidding..? This guy stays the biggest legend in wow pvp
he ment in todays standards
@@Alexandros.Mograine He is even today better then the most players. His microcontrol and theorycrafting is insane and not many people can handle it even today.. And the fact is that WOW is running smoother today and "delay" is not a thing anymore and the game is so simplified. Still they cant do what he does.
@@AdamoElin i didnt say he is bad, but its true that his skills arent as impressive in todays standards when you compare to some other players
Markus Engfelt i would totally destroy him in a duel!
@@lerchomat haha !!!!!!!!!!!!
Comprehensive list in no particular order:
*Rogues* : Grim (vanilla), Neilyo (the forever champion), Ming (the robot), Buddhist (god of style), Akrios(pushed mutilate meta), Woundman(final boss), Krymu (rogue/mage god), Acrono (invented shadowstep meta), Khuna (RMP king), Kalimist (MVP)
*Mages* : Vurtne(invented pvp), Bepep(fire meta creator), Gameking(Korean god), Roswend (Secret god
Where the fuck is grim ?
+CptFoupoudav I'm right here.
+CptFoupoudav This. Had far more of an impact on a class's playerbase than pretty much everyone on this at the time.
my thoughts exactly mate grim was the king of pvp he carried the rogue nation on his shoulders.
+CptFoupoudav or Perkulator!!! (vanilla rogue)
+CptFoupoudav AND Niar as well.. he was rogue beast
Maydie, Grim, Niar ??
Mute,Zalgradis,Brang...
+hossein owj Grim should present in top 10, he is the best badass rogue of all time
+hossein owj NIAR YES
Maydie and Pat was some of the biggest warriors back then
+hossein owj was wondering the same, they are the fucking birthmothers of god mode pvp:P at leat in my mind
Pat is always the first that comes to mind for me when thinking PvP videos. Even tho I didn't play warrior back then, he certainly was part of the reason I made one at the end of vanilla.
Oh and I am pretty certain Swifty didn't reach grand marshal in vanilla, think he only made it to rank 13 Marshal. He got rank14 in the new rated BGs. I think not sure
Correct, he's Rank 13.
He mentioned Field Marshal.
Not Grand Marshal.
He only 95% no-lifed...
Grand Marshall demand 100% plus a toe.
Shabir Parwaz He could have reached grand marshal if he wanted to but he didnt even need it, he was in one of the best raiding guilds at the time and he had weapons that were better then the grand marshal weapons. he was being lazily smart. listen to his voice over'd version of his first warrior tricks video, he explains it.
johnboyu What about a pinky? Kappa
Shabir Parwaz Field Marshal is rank 13.
Beavis, sir, Beavis...
+MrKevo22 i was just about to ask him where the f**k is beavis ... was the most legendary TBC shaman i ve known
+MrKevo22 That was my thought was well. His video Beavis goes Berserk was the video that got me to play the game years ago.
+MrKevo22 fuck yeah
+MrKevo22 wheres buthead
1-Vurtne
2-Noone Frostmage
3-Drakedog
4-Grim Rogue
5-klinda
6-Hydra
Pat were the most influential to me, sad he's not on the list
+Hetsig You liked to play with shit ton of buffs and bunch of healers to support your game play?
+Regalya i take it you play BGs with no buffs then. he recorded on the day warriors had 1 extra talent for Death Wish and Recklesness which got him those insane numbers back then, and i sat there with my lvl 35 rogue with envy.
***** Yeah loved that bug aswell and yes no buffs
I can't believe you missed Brang. I guess you don't like hunters
+ravi chandra if you've seen his videos he absolutely hates hunter lol
No Akrios? Lame... Four of them on there could have gone to make room for that legend. Watch the last three Eviscerate videos (8, 9, & X) and Six Silent Shadows. Hands down the best World PvPer, video editor at his time, and duelist.
J W akrios was never very good
Grim, Niar, Zalgradis (or Zalgadis, cant remember, the pally), Saerdna, Orangemermelade, Francis, Sarotti, Alca (or Alcha), Gegon, Albis, Maydie, Jackthe7th, Laintime, Pat, Otherguy, the guy from "The world of Roguecraft", Faxmonkey, Shyou, Gameking, Noone ... I know I still miss a lot of players but here are the ones that comes to my mind that are not listed on the video.
There are shit loads of videos that comes to my mind but cant really remember the name of the creator and should waste a lot of hours to investigate so ... thumbs up if you found my list somehow useful.
Reckful should have been #1. He is like the founding father of FOTM.
RIP reckful. another reminder of how no matter how much cash you have, how popular are etc, doesnt guarentee youre happy
You missed Grim/Pat/Zalgradis.
Bajheera got 104 killing blows and 0 deaths O.o... Holy fucking ball sacks I'm wet.
Ferelun pocket healers m8.
Ferelun i could prob do a cheeky 100 KB aswell if i had 8 healers with me ;D
Ferelun is getting kills in bg's impressive?
I'm gonna take that question as serious and no sarcasm and respond with yes, at times it is. I've never personally been in a Bg with anyone that had higher than 40 kbs. Plus in pvp you have a better chance of more people attacking you at once so the higher your death chance. But to get 104 killing blows in 15 minutes, he must've been buffed, pocket healers surrounding him, 1 or 2 more dps with him, and fully enchanted newest seasoned gear. It's insane to me actually.
Ferelun kills in a bg dosnt mean anything, let's be honest. what you do in bg's is farm bots and noobs with low gear, cause that's who you find in bg's
Stopped watching after seeing Vurtne the GOAT being 6.
1. Vurtne
2. Maydie
3. Drakedog
4. Grim
5. Perkolator
Neilyo not in the list? WTF
some people didn't start playing till everything was noob
Loved this Vid =) Thou i feel you forgot the real Vanilla legends Maydie and Hulksmash. Seen their vids?
How is there no mention of Orangemarmalade?
! loved most of these guys playing wow through the years, but id like to add... Laintime, Pat, Maydie to the warrior list :D
to me, Niar the night elf rogue is missing. I loved his vanilla pvp movies. They really inspired me to focus on pvp back then.
Remember when dots could kill you if left unchecked or not dispelled? that time is gone, dots are so fucking weak right now...
Liberty Prime Hahaha, i swear, queue for some arenas and fight an WLS comp, you'll cry at the end of the match seeing the amount of damage dealt by the Affliction Warlock, it's just insane.
Filocre Pandastic ...
yeah the damage that is just meter padding tbh, unless you let him get a haunt and several full drain souls off, it will just tickle...
Lol no?? Feral bleed? Afflic dots? You must not pvp lmfao
Daniel Ortega Feral bleeds barely even scratch me as a Shaman. allen b explained Afflic.
Liberty Prime look guys, we have a guy that never faced an LSD or WLS
Hansol has inspired every fire mage pretty much
Nuthead yeah, all three of them ^^
Lorry Leet Nah us Fire Mages are gaining in numbers all thanks to Hansol
Theres actaually a lot of fire mages at low rating.
You prolly dont know Bebep then
was sad i didnt see swifty on here, glad i waited til the end. what a great list
I don't understand how Vurtne is so far down. He literally defined the mage class and how it should be played - flashing ahead of time and pulling off some iceblock reaction times that was RIDICULOUS. Maybe, just maybe some really good PvP mages can pull that shit off on the regular these days, but saying he wasn't as skilled compared to now, is not true at all. The jump turn itself, the iceblock deathcoils, the blink pre-charge on warriors and Will of Forsaken at the exact same time as its done getting casted, like... He's number 1. He really is. Him or Drakedog, not Swifty. Swifty definitely had influence way back in Vanilla, but he was never good at PvP. He had good gear, a healer and that was it. He backpedealed all the time, I think I've only ever seen Vurtne do it once, not to mention how Vurtne knew to take advantage of jump climbing.
"Influential", not skilled, he literally said that at the start of the vid...
You know, because Maydie and Pat don't eat at least half of this list for breakfast or anything.
Maydie and Pat. Fkin legends.
Man nice list. I personally would have added:
These are all from Vanilla.
1. Maydie / Human / Arms Warrior
2. Mute / Undead / Rogue (can't remember spec)
3. Hulksmash / Orc / Fury Warrior
4. Zetla / Undead / Arcane Mage
5. Unbreakable / Orc / 2 HD Enhancement Shaman
6. Pat / Tauren / Arms Warrior
7 Panda / Night Elf / Priest
This was at least the people I use to watch quite a bit. Just my opinion.
Sodapoppin is cool but I personally I don't watch his stuff as 'his community' are imho are worse than the LoL communities reputation makes it out to be.
RemnantOfThePast Hahaha, yes they are clearly an army of trolls and 13 yo but the streamer himself aka Sodapoppin wasn't that bad. I regret the fact that he now do shit stuff like getting drunk on stream, betting money, etc but he used to be a very chill guy and an awesome player, so yeah, i don't think we should do those quick judgements.
RemnantOfThePast We are really bad, we know it and Soda knows it, but there's no changing it. Either way, doesn't change the fact that our senpai Sodapoppin is good.
RemnantOfThePast PYYYYAAAH !
Jonas Staats i have seen many different streamers communitys and they talk to their chat and have conversations, seeing sodapoppins chat is full of people spamming emotes and other dumb things and he calls you retards and hates all of you but enjoys the money he gets, so he tolerates you
micy 234 bullshit
Where's the Chuck? RIP CDew BibleThump
Jan 13,2021 R.I.P. Wreckful.
no laintime, Pat? mayday? vanguard/savix/Zalgradis? sonydigital, Ming, Grimm
i would add crille, eryx, meandro and happyminti
ce3kay ohh yes yes yes! At least someone still know these absolute legends! The fat cow, bring the shadows, endless sacrifice, nerf sap
Athene proved himself? He got boosted :DDDD
Not much damage you can do as a holy paladin
Vurtne is dominating Tier 2 Rogues while only wearing Tier 0 gear... that's quite impressive, while he's also being outnumbered by them, too - I learned how to dominate on a Mage by watching Faxmonkey; he showed me the maximum potential of a Mage pre-BC and vastly boosted my abilities in both PvE/PvP to the point I got on the Hordes PvP A-Team w/in weeks after watching the videos. I thank him for vastly increasing my knowledge of the class.
How can you not mention Otherguy; he pioneered mage pvp long before Vurtne came around.
no Pat, no Maydie. wut
Perplexity man...his videos are legendary
R.I.P. Klinda
REST IN PARADISE RECKFUL
Yes go Swifty 😊 love all his vids even shown which spec is better for the warrior
unbreakable > *
+yougot1LEd one if the first pvp videos i watched. i wish 2h enh shaman would come back into play
still my favorite pvp video
+Steve Sargent god i hope so!
+yougot1LEd jesus troll
Laintime. Ahead of his time when the game hasn’t even been out for a year. NO ONE could outmatch his technical agility and awareness.
His 1vMultiples were just damn satisfying, even to this day.
Swiftys first couple videos are so nostalgic it physically hurts
I'm amazed you haven't put GeForce the Undead warrior legend on the chinese/korean servers and also one of the best warrior video makers, many times better than swifty in that regard.
+Ace Gforce was amazing, so was Gameking! ( The mage equivalent xD ) more about quality, innovation and skill than big crit numbers :D
+Ace Most influential PvPers, there's a huge difference
+Jotun90 you must be new around i guess
Ace I know who Gforce is but he hasnt made the same impact on the PvP community that Swify has
Ace except this was influential pvpers not best players
You forgot maydie .-.
Cobra inspired my reroll to Warlock after playing resto Druid for 9 years. His MOP destro montages made lock look so fun.
soda is love soda is life
Matteo Naur Amen
God.... GRIM TOTAL ANNIHILATION !!!
pretty much agree with your choices even with honorable mentions ... i loved drakedog back in the day ... ive used to play a warlock a lot before just because of him ;)
Where is Pilav?
TheLazyPeon To let you know, Vurtne returned in MoP and still plays to this day... How do i know? well, played with him all the way, and went to become pretty good friends with him
eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/laughing-skull/Vurtne/simple
Here is his armory, you might not belive me, but trust me, its him...
Zosmoᴴᴰ He's real me and zosmo played with him..
I do not think he looks very own is my friend and wow does not play the most from TB so you're saying an idiot and I bet you do not even know his name her real name,
Gramma please
The one I love to watch is Brang. Whenever I get a little bored playing I put on one of his videos and get inspired.
Too bad Swifty never got Grand Marshal and shouldn't be number 1 on this list considering he hasn't done anything besides make youtube duels.
where the fuck is dremlock
srsly, I played with Drem back in the day, sad to see him not here, He is truly outrageous.
Most influence on me at vanilla times had Shurrik Part 1 and 2. Excellent rogue handling in times where literally noone had even T1.
No Piilav? :( thats make me quite sad.. He was the reason why i play a warrior in PvP xD
Pilav as just as stupid as his fans. You have to have the worst sense of humor to find him entertaining
@@Tracuer221 haters gonna hate