Definitely the best tires I've had on my bike, better than S22 and the ones I'm currently riding S23, they last long enough, the perfect amount for a good biking season with the random 2 or 3 longer trips in the middle I'd say.
Better tip into the corners on the Corsas as they are more pointy, the bike feels lighter, no matter the pace. That aside, the Corsas feel better when the pace gets more extreme, the S22s started melting and slipping way sooner, the S23s I didn't had the chance to push has hard yet, and from the reviews I watched, I'm guessing they're better at this part, but I'm not confident they'll match the Corsas still. The mileage of the tires can change quite drastically depending on the conditions, if I was riding all the time at a hard pace I'd bet you the Corsas would last longer as they wouldn't melt as much. For example, a close friend of mine destroyed a set Road 5s (the holy grail of mileage) quicker than is brother with some "old" BT16 pros, that's how grippy this roads are and how warm we can get, not too far from track level sometimes. Luckily, I'm only at this kind of pace 20/30% of the time, so the rest of the time the Bridgestones will perform almost as good and last a bit more too.
@@sferreirac Interesting and very detailed explanation. I agree with "form" point, Bridgestone are more neutral and progressive while the 4corsa are much more like a "leap of faith" on the max lean angle. The melting part is harder for me to think because i havent had any problems in that regard neither on s21 or 4corsa. Had to admit that im riding faster now than year before on s21. Maybe i come back to S21 and see if my new pace still handles on this tyre aswell as the 4corsa. My point is the price to performance ratio: S21 cost less than a half of the 4corsa but my guees is that, for hypersport porpusses, s21 are maybe the 90% of a 4corsa in terms of sportivity while s22 and s23 had to be even closer. Anyway, thx for the conversation!
@@hectorsequi5252 I tried the S21 on other bikes, it's not 90% of the Corsas when it comes to sportiveness, more like 70% maybe. S22s 80/85%, S23 only by guess and by the reviews I would put them on closer to the 90%. Again, coming back to conditions, when I was riding more around Lisbon, where the fast roads are scarcer and the tarmac never as grippy as it is now in the north of Portugal, every tires would last way longer and one couldn't feel the difference as much, so, depending on your conditions and pace the feeling may vary drastically. When I bought my current bike it came with Super Corsas SP and I couldn't warm them up on my daily commutes, I couldn't trust them, so I swapped them for some S22s and the commutes got way more fun instantly, now it's almost the opposite, I don't commute this bike and the location has lot of great choices for good roads, so I don't ride bad roads anymore and when I ride it's longer and faster roads.. there's better tires for each type of conditions, one must be honest and choose as so.
I would go with the regular Rosso IV tires if commuting and chill rides like you say. They are still very performant tires. Like they say, your mileage will vary, but you'll get more miles out of those than the Rosso IV Corsa reviewed here.
@@motohours I think 5,000 miles would do me justice and keep me buying same brand, my michelin power CT tires lasted around 5600 i was happy with the performance on them.
Good question. Why I made the comment that Pirelli almost has too many choices and it's getting confusing. I've had the SP come stock on some of the bikes I purchased new, like an RSV4 and Street Triple 765RS, they were good tires, but at that time I preferred the SC compounds for their additional grip and feedback. That said, I don't know what the new SP (v4 version) is like these days. It's a dual compound, with the SC3 compound on the shoulders, so it has to be pretty sticky. My guess is they might not last as long as the Rosso IV Corsa tires. Probably just need to give a set a try to see if it works for your bike, riding style, and the roads you ride.
@@crg302 I haven't tried a set of the latest SP (I think they are on version 4), but I went through several previous sets on the version 2 and 3. I personally think the R4C are as good, if not better due to life expectancy. I never had the confidence on the front end with the earlier SP tires, but at that time I was used to running the SC2 compounds. The SP came stock on the RSV4 and Street Triple 765 I previously owned. Many like the SP, I think it just gets down to personal preference, riding style, budget, ...etc. Like I said, Pirelli is making things a bit confusing, but good to have the various options to pick from.
I stuck with Corsa 4 instead of Supercorsa SP V4 because i ride in the fall, winter, spring & wet on the road I wanted to try the Supercorsas, yes, but i like the DR4 Corsa because i ride in a variety of weather and dont really trust the SP V4 tires in the morning or maybe on the way home in the rain. Plus, the difference between the 2 on the track cant be that substantial, I've just got an FZ-07 (75hp, 400lbs)
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Definitely the best tires I've had on my bike, better than S22 and the ones I'm currently riding S23, they last long enough, the perfect amount for a good biking season with the random 2 or 3 longer trips in the middle I'd say.
Why better than s22 and s23 arguments please!
Better tip into the corners on the Corsas as they are more pointy, the bike feels lighter, no matter the pace. That aside, the Corsas feel better when the pace gets more extreme, the S22s started melting and slipping way sooner, the S23s I didn't had the chance to push has hard yet, and from the reviews I watched, I'm guessing they're better at this part, but I'm not confident they'll match the Corsas still. The mileage of the tires can change quite drastically depending on the conditions, if I was riding all the time at a hard pace I'd bet you the Corsas would last longer as they wouldn't melt as much. For example, a close friend of mine destroyed a set Road 5s (the holy grail of mileage) quicker than is brother with some "old" BT16 pros, that's how grippy this roads are and how warm we can get, not too far from track level sometimes. Luckily, I'm only at this kind of pace 20/30% of the time, so the rest of the time the Bridgestones will perform almost as good and last a bit more too.
@@sferreirac Interesting and very detailed explanation. I agree with "form" point, Bridgestone are more neutral and progressive while the 4corsa are much more like a "leap of faith" on the max lean angle. The melting part is harder for me to think because i havent had any problems in that regard neither on s21 or 4corsa. Had to admit that im riding faster now than year before on s21. Maybe i come back to S21 and see if my new pace still handles on this tyre aswell as the 4corsa. My point is the price to performance ratio: S21 cost less than a half of the 4corsa but my guees is that, for hypersport porpusses, s21 are maybe the 90% of a 4corsa in terms of sportivity while s22 and s23 had to be even closer. Anyway, thx for the conversation!
@@hectorsequi5252 I tried the S21 on other bikes, it's not 90% of the Corsas when it comes to sportiveness, more like 70% maybe. S22s 80/85%, S23 only by guess and by the reviews I would put them on closer to the 90%. Again, coming back to conditions, when I was riding more around Lisbon, where the fast roads are scarcer and the tarmac never as grippy as it is now in the north of Portugal, every tires would last way longer and one couldn't feel the difference as much, so, depending on your conditions and pace the feeling may vary drastically. When I bought my current bike it came with Super Corsas SP and I couldn't warm them up on my daily commutes, I couldn't trust them, so I swapped them for some S22s and the commutes got way more fun instantly, now it's almost the opposite, I don't commute this bike and the location has lot of great choices for good roads, so I don't ride bad roads anymore and when I ride it's longer and faster roads.. there's better tires for each type of conditions, one must be honest and choose as so.
i might put these on when my Rosso IV's are done
the Rosso IV's were already a major "upgrade" compared to my stock Dunlops that came with the bike (cbr650r)... like I mean they were hot trash
Regulr commute and chill rides thru out the weekend. How long will these last ?
I would go with the regular Rosso IV tires if commuting and chill rides like you say. They are still very performant tires. Like they say, your mileage will vary, but you'll get more miles out of those than the Rosso IV Corsa reviewed here.
@@motohours I think 5,000 miles would do me justice and keep me buying same brand,
my michelin power CT tires lasted around 5600 i was happy with the performance on them.
Why not go with the supercorsa SP? Is there any difference between the supercorsa sp and rosso corsa IV except for the thread pattern?
Good question. Why I made the comment that Pirelli almost has too many choices and it's getting confusing. I've had the SP come stock on some of the bikes I purchased new, like an RSV4 and Street Triple 765RS, they were good tires, but at that time I preferred the SC compounds for their additional grip and feedback. That said, I don't know what the new SP (v4 version) is like these days. It's a dual compound, with the SC3 compound on the shoulders, so it has to be pretty sticky. My guess is they might not last as long as the Rosso IV Corsa tires. Probably just need to give a set a try to see if it works for your bike, riding style, and the roads you ride.
@@motohoursHow do you feel like the RC4 compares to the Supercorsa SP?
Is the SP worth it over the RC4 for hard street riding?
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@@crg302 I haven't tried a set of the latest SP (I think they are on version 4), but I went through several previous sets on the version 2 and 3. I personally think the R4C are as good, if not better due to life expectancy. I never had the confidence on the front end with the earlier SP tires, but at that time I was used to running the SC2 compounds. The SP came stock on the RSV4 and Street Triple 765 I previously owned. Many like the SP, I think it just gets down to personal preference, riding style, budget, ...etc. Like I said, Pirelli is making things a bit confusing, but good to have the various options to pick from.
I stuck with Corsa 4 instead of Supercorsa SP V4 because i ride in the fall, winter, spring & wet on the road
I wanted to try the Supercorsas, yes, but i like the DR4 Corsa because i ride in a variety of weather and dont really trust the SP V4 tires in the morning or maybe on the way home in the rain.
Plus, the difference between the 2 on the track cant be that substantial, I've just got an FZ-07 (75hp, 400lbs)