I was thinking the SAME Thing! The minute a SovCit states he is not a Citizen of the USA, the Judge should just automatically state, No Problem get yourself ready for Deportation! End of Arguement!
Two of everything, we have our de jure 50 states of the union and the defaco STATE OF CORPORATION, the corporation will never reports you back to the state of the union you lay your head. It would be evidence they have no jurisdiction over you and are involved in fraudulent activities.
@@thefinalflash6211 The 14th Amendment used the term “citizen of the United States.” The courts have ruled that this means federal citizenship which is similar to a citizen of the District of Columbia. Since the federal government didn’t step in and tell Pennsylvania or New York that it couldn’t make State Citizens out of former black slaves, an argument could be made that the 14th Amendment was written primarily to afford [voluntary] citizenship to those of the black race that were recently freed by the 13th Amendment (Slaughter-House Cases, 16 Wall. 36, 71), and did not include Indians and others NOT born in and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States (McKay v. Cambell, 2 Sawy. 129), Thus, the Amendment recognized that “an individual can be a Citizen of one of the several States without being a citizen of the United States,” (U.S. v. Anthony, 24 Fed. Cas. 829, 830), or, “a citizen of the United States without being a Citizen of a State.” (Slaughter-House Cases, supra; cf. U.S. v. Cruikshank, 92 US 542, 549 (1875)).
@@thefinalflash6211 Did the Courts really say that someone could be a Citizen of a State without being a citizen of the United States? Yes, they did. It’s true that the cases cited above are old, some over 100 years old. None of these cases have ever been overturned by a more recent decision, so they are valid. A more recent case is Crosse v. Bd. of Supervisors, 221 A.2d 431 (1966) which says: “Both before and after the Fourteenth Amendment to the federal Constitution, it has not been necessary for a person to be a citizen of the United States in order to be a citizen of his state.” Citing U.S. v. Cruikshank, supra.
This guy says he is not a US citizen, nor is he a "person" so the Constitution must not apply to him, as the Constitution applies to "persons" who are native born or naturalized citizens of the United States of America, So how can he say he is operating under the Constitution?
She's giving him a civics lesson he probably never had in school (or probably flunked). I've never gone to school in the United States, but I'm sure civics would also imply (and I'd also expect) teaching about basic concepts of the US and State Constitution, including things on very impactful federal constitutional amendments such as the First Amendment, the 5th, 10th, 14th, Prohibition (18th and 21st), the 22nd and 25th.
@bundesautobahn7 At least when I was in high school, we were required to take a government class prior to graduating. Unfortunately, said class is only taken for a single semester, and thus, in my opinion, insufficient to really make sure the concepts stick in a way that more effectively prevents idiots like this from existing.
As a sovereign citizen, I want to work at a hospital as a doctor, In my interview they asked for me to provide a licence number/certificate I told them I don't need one. I didn't get job!!!
Very patient, but not a good teacher. She did not do a good job with her explanations and examples. She was stuck on the 14th amendment, but never brought up the 10th amendment which gives the states the right to say everyone has to have a driver’s license, and she never pointed out that he has to be both a person and a US citizen to get a US passport, which would have completely shut him down.
When they bring up that "I'm not a citizen" crap I don't understand why no one ever tells them it doesn't matter. You could be a French national, and you'd still be subject to the laws of the sate when you're here! lol.
As someone from the UK, I am fascinated by sovereign citizens, This is the first judge to really make sense of it for me. As pedants when it comes to our English language, we sometimes pick up when people ask us if we can do something, eg 'Can you bring me a glass of water?' when they really mean 'Would you bring me a glass of water?' What she is saying is, yes you 'can' travel wherever and whenever you like, in other words, we have the ability and right to travel, but you 'need' to have the necessary documentation if you are going to do so by driving a car.'
This judge schooled this defendant and I applaud her for her patience! Hopefully, he learned that rules apply, and the SovSit nonsense he downloaded is useless in the real world.
No chance. She kept telling him how smart he is and that is a disservice to him in many ways. A perfect measure of intelligence is your ability to comprehend and he is lacking in that area
I don't applaud her patience. With all due respect, she was far too tolerant. Judges are not there to educate or convince. It's like she was trying to convince a Christian to convert to Islam.
@@idareya7250 huh? The right to travel is in the Constitution. Just not by what method. That's the part that is regulated by the states. These idiots think it means by any method and that they don't need to show they are knowledgeable about how to operate whatever vehicle they're using.
@@idareya7250we have the right to travel freely, but the means of that travel can be restricted. For example, someone without training can’t just take the left-hand seat of an aircraft and take off. He has to earn a pilot’s license and be rated for the type of craft he plans to fly. So his means of travel is restricted, but not his travel. He can walk, ride a bicycle or a horse, hitch up a team and wagon, or ride one of those
The SovCit Cits are partially right. US citizens have a constitutional right to travel. What they don't understand, and I've never seen a judge explain, is they are not being ticketed for illegally traveling. There are many modes of travel, you can walk, ride a bike, ride a horse, etc.. all without the need for a license or insurance. However, it is illegal to operate a motor vehicle on public roads, whether for purposes of travel or pleasure, without a license or insurance, and that is what they are being cited for, not simply for traveling.
1. It will always amaze me when these "citizens" both want to uphold the constitution, but also don't consider themselves a citizen of the USA. Its all talking in circles. 2. How quick and amazing these court reporters are.. They're the real heros here. Can you imagine getting every single word down, especially with people talking over each other, etc. Damnnnn!
Comparing the totally voluntary act of getting a license to slavery, arguably the worst thing humans have done to one another, is extremely disrespectful
Yeah, people love to have official permission to move their property over a commonly owned public easement designed for movement of their property to access their land by right, weird huh?
@@lewdachris7721 rules yes, but a driver’s education “Certificate of Competency” with an insurance bond would meet the state’s interest for public safety. NO driver’s license, car registration or civil traffic tickets needed, but there is no money for the states and insurance companies with that? The law is a wonderful thing, follow it?
@@Starman909 people need to prove they can drive safely. They need to have their car registered and inspected so the state knows it’s legal to be on the road, again safety. And it needs insurance in case you wreck someone else’s stuff. They have the power of the constitution to do all this. Why is that so hard?
Wrong these are people who have a basic understanding of their God given unalienable rights. They understand the treason that was committed with the passage of the 14th amendment. They are patriots standing up for everyone's rights. They might get railroaded by our corrupt administrative Roman courts, they might not have the proper knowledge to stand against these courts, but they are there , for good reason. It's amazing how dumbed down and brainwashed the American people are, that they actually support the tyrants that have enslaved them. It's disgraceful.
Judge actually not that bright says state can make laws that are stricter but can't make laws that violate federal law that is incorrect if that was so Marijuana wouldn't be able to be made legal by states which is federally illegal
@@StackinGreene In terms of civil rights, the States cannot make laws which protect civil rights less than what the Federal laws (and caselaw interpreting them) do. That is what she was referring to.
These guys remind me of a 5 year old that can't pronounce "spaghetti" and keep saying "pasgetti". It's cute for a few times, then you with their palate would just harden and we can be done with it.
I thank this excellent judge who insisted that he speak loudly enough to be heard online. It is evident that she knows (as she knew with his filed “motion” of “jurisdiction”) that he was going to be a sovcit, and therefore knew he would end up on LTWM. So she made real sure that he would be heard so we can all laugh at the idiot. 🤣
She likely figured a polite, calm education is more effective than an iron fist and no patience.... Cus SovCits KNOW they are ginnabe shot down. They want the opportunity to be sanctimonious and claim victimhood of unconstitutional tyranny and government overreach. Its narcissism.... they are always a victim, its always done TO them, not because of them. Nothing bad that happens is their fault.
And most SovCits aren't SovCits untill they get caught. He didn't have a license and insurance because he didn't wanna pay for it... not because of his political beliefs. 😂
I love the fact that you are explaining things to people like me who obviously believes in the Constitution of both the states and the federal government and telling us where the right to travel comes in versus the right to drive a car. Thank you.
This judge is so sweet. She takes the time to try to help this guy understand the US constitution, state constitution, and the three branches of government.
I find it amazing how those people claim they are not US citizens and that the rules don’t apply to them, don’t they realise that someone who is a foreign citizen on vacation must still follow all traffic laws if they wish to drive in the USA.
Foreign visitors to the US whether they are driving or not are subject to the same laws as US citizens from what I know. Visitors do have rights but not the same as US citizens in the US
@AertheAngel words do matter, so why do you keep leaving out all the other definitions of driving? that is only one of MANY definitions for driving. It is NOT the only definition for driving that matters. That definition pertains to a CDL, we are talking about regular driving.
I do appreciate this judge, instead of just shutting the SovCitiot down, actually gave him homework to do in class. Brilliant. She ought to be able to sentence him to writing a report on how he's wrong on each and every item he mentioned. Cue the theme music for "The More You Know"
Being a citizen of a corporation masquerading as government under the color of law, is a choice. The 14th amendment was never to apply to the citizens of the 50 states of the union. It was to give the freed slaves citizenship of the district of Columbia, because the States didn't want them if you have not repudiated your 14th amendment citizenship, your not very bright. The 14th amendment converted your natural unalienable rights into duties and privileges.
@@sheiladineen9483as it should be. Refusing to answer simple questions about one's identity and whether or not they want an attorney, CONTEMPT OF COURT
If the SovCits have the all-encompassing right to travel, does that mean that I can enter an airport and fly a commercial airliner without a Pilot's License? These people are beyond stupid.
Exactly 💯, But my question is, why is this judge entertaining this stupidity..? Let him take it to trial, because we all know how this will end for him. 🤦🏾♂️
I'm guessing no citizenship education in elementary school and no civics in secondary education. I heard one judge ask a sovcit, if he genuinely believed he was not subject to the laws of any form of government, then why was he coming to court? She told him, paraphrasing, "If you truly believe that, then don't come to court , just don't come."
No, I think 90% of them have so much trouble with their driving record, they just don't see a way out, so they hear this nonsense and think, that's the answer.
Traditionally American student had some of the BEST education in civics! The design of US governance is relatively new and creative with a strong commitment to freedom. Americans have been proud of their invention of this "union of sovereign states" style of governance and they revere their Bill of Rights. As such, they have always done a great job of teaching each generation in school so they could "pass the torch" onto young Americans who will participate in governance in the future. Sadly, civics classes have been dropped from the school requirements in most states. Each year, fewer and fewer kids learn about state sovereignty or about the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Most parents today couldn't pass a basic quiz about the three branches of government (legislative, executive, and judiciary) and couldn't even tell you what a "constitution" is for. Parents don't understand it well enough to teach their kids and the schools don't need to do it either. In Canada, we don't call it "civics," but we have Social Studies that includes mandatory education about governance each year from about Grade 4 up to Grade 12. My kids are in junior high school. They're familiar with the role of a federal constitution, the contents of the _Constitution Act_ including the _Charter of Rights and Freedoms_ and they can talk meaningfully about that material. By the way, when I say that Americans are proud -- and SHOULD be proud -- of their country, I'm not saying it's perfect. They started this amazing experiment in freedom in the late 18th century, so surely there is room for improvement. My worry is that this improvement happens only through education and understanding. Each generation must teach civics so the kids actually UNDERSTAND their constitution. Only then can they work toward making their country even better. (For example, have you ever read the 14th Amendment?? Notice the mention of "male landowners." Ya think maybe this made sense at the time but could be updated today??) They stopped teaching civics in public school, so guys like this self-appointed "expert" are surprised to learn that the judiciary includes judges!!! He's clueless... and it might not be entirely his fault.
@@HogTieChamp American students learn this is Social studies just like Canadian students do. They also learn that the Earth is spherical yet we still have flat earthers out there. Education in public schools isn’t the answer for these conspiracy theorists.
@@GoodnightJLH That's a great point. I'm certainly not suggesting that the reduction (or elimination) of proper civics education is the cause of this mess. To borrow your analogy, the schools could go ahead and stop teaching anything about the shape of the Earth and most people would still pick up the knowledge that it's round. I think the roots of all of this stuff (young-earth creationism, SovCit, anti-vax flat earther, etc) if found in an overall sense of entitlement to "respect my beliefs." I've spoken with many flat earthers and anti-vaxxers. At some point during a discussion of facts, the nutter will blurt out "I have a right to my opinion!" When you disagree with them, they'll say that you're "attacking" them. (Note that they can disagree with you and they can accuse every expert in any field of conspiracy, but by not agreeing with a nutter, YOU are "attacking" THEM.) Anywayz... Going back to civics... With flat-earth stuff and anti-vax stuff, at least students are taught the basics of it, then they have to buck against this teaching with they become an indignant nutter. With evolution and with civics, kids don't even learn the basics, so it's easier to be a misinformed nutter in these areas.
I’m not certain this is the whole deal. They never intend to pay, so that might not be the motivation. They are not intelligent enough, or have been brainwashed beyond intervention. They are just self centered cult members who were not raised properly, are chronically unemployed, and have poor impulse control.
Could you explain why the judges don't ask for a visa? If I want to travel to the USA, they will ask for a visa at the border!!! if he is not a us citizen he must have a visa correct? 🤣🤣🤣
Well, a SovCit's brain is where nuance goes to die, so you'd have to try explaining that yes, they can't _ban_ you from the roads entirely, but you need a license for _certain activities_ on the road, like driving.
STATE OF MICHIGAN, it a foreign corporation masquerading as government under the color of law. It's all fraud. These corporations are foreign to our republic and repugnant to our constitution.
@@idareya7250In court, no. The judge can take that right away because it is not unfettered. You really need to learn alot about law, you just keep spreading ignorance.
I don't understand why the judge keeps citing the citizenship rules. It doesn't matter if you're a citizen. It's not like a french tourist can come to the US and rob a bank. You can't drive to Canada and commit crimes just because you're not Canadian. That's not how jurisdiction works.
It's about your status, when you where born you where a national of the state of the union you where born in. (Not the state of corporation) the highest form of status. Several days or weeks later your birth certificat was registered, you became property of the United States corporation ( a citizen aka slave of the corporation). Several years after that the state executed murdered your person and replaced it, with a ficticous all capital letter entity known as nobody and social security holds the death record. It is why you receive a summons to appear in court, they are summoning the dead to appear before them.
Now the whole system, is based off the un copy written edition of the king James bible. It was mirrored, the county represents the house of David. It is also why the sheriff's wear the six sided star of david. Much has been done to destroy the freedom our founders earned, to draw the American people back into the system of slavery that controls the world.
I know this is unconstitutional, but I wish the courts could impose a triple fine to these a-holes when they waste the tax payer's time and money by going to a jury trial. They should pay for it if(when) they lose. They need to be stopped. She wasted SO MUCH TIME with this ignorant waste.
The law allows them to speak. Cutting off points can be grounds for mistrial. That is why they’re doing what they’re doing, and why the judges let them ramble.
@@provostroar The law doesn't allow them to speak over others, especially the judge. That can be grounds for contempt. In addition, motions and objections have a format that must be followed, even by Pro Se defendants. The judge could have easily denied the frivolous motions. I am not saying that they can't talk, but they have to follow the court rules, which this person didn't.
I think she has not dealt with a lot of SovCits, and she is working hard to change his mindset. I want to assume she won't be this patient with the next one she'll encounter.
Driving is a privilege. We are not born and the state gives us a car, vehicle whatever you want to call it. Back then when they said the right to travel, they didn’t have cars. They couldn’t have meant the right to travel in cars because they didn’t have any
What would save time: SC: "You don't have jurisdiction." J: "As you are physically in the area, I find that I do." SC: "I don't have a contract with this state/municipality." J: "I find that you do." SC: "I have the right to travel." J: "No one has impeded that right." SC: "Boo-hoo. I disagree with you." J: "Appeal it." The end.
I am not bored with this. I find it interesting that so many people are sovereign citizens and the reasons for why they think they can get away with it. I'm a true believer in the 10th amendment which gives the states the rights to do the things not enumerated for the federal government.
The judges need a cheat sheet to deal with this and shut it down faster. She's trying to explain, but he doesn't want to understand. She's wasting her time.
That judge spent way too much time explaining to the first guy. He knew damn well he has to have a license to drive. Give him his punishment and move on. Give him jail time 😊
I’m glad to see LEOs and courts are more aware than even a decade ago. They are getting better with being more direct and having a process without needless engaging with nonsense arguments and tying up already packed courts time. They at least know what to anticipate and what a nonsense argument is vs an ernest inquiry/debate. Also knowing what to anticipate and delay tactics is helpful.
It appears that no amount of explaining, by a person well versed in the law, to most sovereign citizen is pointless. For most of them it is a delusion no amount of proof will be sufficient to dissuade them from their fixed and incorrect ideas.@@Outnumberedbykidsandcats
The funniest part of this hearing: I guarantee, the smarter the judge told him he is, the more insecure & dumber he felt. What an intelligent judge. The true insults sound polite on the surface, but they take seed in the mind, sprout and grow into full blown insecurity. Round of applause, Judge.
If ignorance is bliss, this guy is one of the happiest people on the planet. Judge: What about not having insurance? Defendant: That's a trick of nature.
He wants all the rights with none of the responsibilities. And even if we consider the constitution to be a contract between the citizens and the government, that would mean that he in fact DOES want a contract, he just wants to modify it so all the burden is on the government and all the rights go to him. It's greedy. It's rude. It's asinine.
I know this is an exercise in futility by the gentleman arguing his case, but I find it very interesting and I appreciate this TH-cam channel. I appreciate your allowing this to be broadcast to me.
Am I alone thinking that someone on the bench needs a prosecutor who has done a little research on his claims and is capable of arguing the facts without stopping everything to look shit up?
@Nefertiti0403 I agree! What a waste of time! There was a judge in Tennessee or Mississippi that closed the Sovereign Citizen DOWN! I just saw it yesterday but I'd never seen him before. 🤔
So the case referenced (Shapiro vs Thompson) was about an unwed pregnant teen mother who moved to another state and was not able to get state financial assistance due to residency requirements. So the “right to travel” has fork all to do with driving without a license. WTF.
I'm all about educating sovcidiots, but the way the judge did this basically with Google was inefficient, embarrassing and unprofessional. She needs to knock on Judge Perkins door and take some tips on how to do it like a boss.
She has let this goof go on with his nonsense WAAAAYYYY too long! Wrap it up. He's not absorbing the info you're giving him!!!! Take control of your courtroom, maam!
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You don’t want to follow the constitution but you want protection under the constitution
That always happens!
Anytime someone say's "lawfully lawful" you know they're stupidfully stupid.
😂😂😂😂
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It's lawfully awful!
Lmao😂
"your honor is that lawful law?" Darrell Brooks.
I wish, when the Sov Cit says, „I am not a citizen“, the judge says, „Fine….we are holding you in our jail while your deportation is scheduled.“
I was thinking the SAME Thing! The minute a SovCit states he is not a Citizen of the USA, the Judge should just automatically state, No Problem get yourself ready for Deportation! End of Arguement!
Two of everything, we have our de jure 50 states of the union and the defaco STATE OF CORPORATION, the corporation will never reports you back to the state of the union you lay your head. It would be evidence they have no jurisdiction over you and are involved in fraudulent activities.
That would be SOO FANTASTIC
@@thefinalflash6211 The 14th Amendment used the term “citizen of the United States.” The courts have ruled that this means federal citizenship which is similar to a citizen of the District of Columbia. Since the federal government didn’t step in and tell Pennsylvania or New York that it couldn’t make State Citizens out of former black slaves, an argument could be made that the 14th Amendment was written primarily to afford [voluntary] citizenship to those of the black race that were recently freed by the 13th Amendment (Slaughter-House Cases, 16 Wall. 36, 71), and did not include Indians and others NOT born in and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States (McKay v. Cambell, 2 Sawy. 129), Thus, the Amendment recognized that “an individual can be a Citizen of one of the several States without being a citizen of the United States,” (U.S. v. Anthony, 24 Fed. Cas. 829, 830), or, “a citizen of the United States without being a Citizen of a State.” (Slaughter-House Cases, supra; cf. U.S. v. Cruikshank, 92 US 542, 549 (1875)).
@@thefinalflash6211 Did the Courts really say that someone could be a Citizen of a State without being a citizen of the United States? Yes, they did. It’s true that the cases cited above are old, some over 100 years old. None of these cases have ever been overturned by a more recent decision, so they are valid. A more recent case is Crosse v. Bd. of Supervisors, 221 A.2d 431 (1966) which says: “Both before and after the Fourteenth Amendment to the federal Constitution, it has not been necessary for a person to be a citizen of the United States in order to be a citizen of his state.” Citing U.S. v. Cruikshank, supra.
He’s pissing me off! 😂😤😤😤 like dude let it go. You LOST your case.
This guy says he is not a US citizen, nor is he a "person" so the Constitution must not apply to him, as the Constitution applies to "persons" who are native born or naturalized citizens of the United States of America, So how can he say he is operating under the Constitution?
I love this Judge. She goes after him with his own argument. He can't keep up his argument.
She's giving him a civics lesson he probably never had in school (or probably flunked). I've never gone to school in the United States, but I'm sure civics would also imply (and I'd also expect) teaching about basic concepts of the US and State Constitution, including things on very impactful federal constitutional amendments such as the First Amendment, the 5th, 10th, 14th, Prohibition (18th and 21st), the 22nd and 25th.
@bundesautobahn7 At least when I was in high school, we were required to take a government class prior to graduating.
Unfortunately, said class is only taken for a single semester, and thus, in my opinion, insufficient to really make sure the concepts stick in a way that more effectively prevents idiots like this from existing.
As long as she keeps repeating herself, he's winning
This guy's argument is no more or less than "I wanna do what I wanna do."
Amen
EXACTLY!!!!!
I DON'T HATE STUPID PEOPLE BUT I HATE PEOPLE THAT DO STUPID THINGS
Those Sovereign citizens who waste the Court's time with that garbage should have to pay a big fine or do jail time
Exactly!!
they should really have to pay the real court costs all summed up, that would be fair
The FBI calls them a terrorist organization.
Community work! They should all have to do some !
The court were made for the citizens no matter how long it takes? You wouldn’t want to rush a citizen to judgement?
As a sovereign citizen, I want to work at a hospital as a doctor, In my interview they asked for me to provide a licence number/certificate I told them I don't need one. I didn't get job!!!
I don’t know if you are kidding, trolling or are just plain ignorant.
right to travel from one hospital bed to another
No sovereign citizen would ever do something as helpful or altruistic as saving lives.
No patient with even half a clue would consent to being treated by a SovCit.
But, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Why does she engage with this man who only wishes to do what he wants because he thinks he is entitled to do things no one else can? CONTEMPT!
She likes him. She's trying to educate him, hoping he'll be enlightened to critically think.
She's trying to save him from himself. Unfortunately, you can't correct willful ignorance.
I would love to see two sovereign citizens sue each other.
If they believed the nonsense they're spouting, neither of them would show up to court because there's no proof of jurisdiction. 🤣
Would it have the effect of matter encountering antimatter…*POOF*_
[[gavel slam]] “DISMISSED”
This judge is beyond patient and is a great teacher.
Right? Somehow I love the way she’s handling this Sov Cit even more than I love Judge Middleton calling one a flat Earther.
There’s such thing as being too patient.
Very patient, but not a good teacher. She did not do a good job with her explanations and examples. She was stuck on the 14th amendment, but never brought up the 10th amendment which gives the states the right to say everyone has to have a driver’s license, and she never pointed out that he has to be both a person and a US citizen to get a US passport, which would have completely shut him down.
When they bring up that "I'm not a citizen" crap I don't understand why no one ever tells them it doesn't matter. You could be a French national, and you'd still be subject to the laws of the sate when you're here! lol.
Thought she was gonna let him slide through, but she decide to UNO reverse his ass and beat him with facts. Great job your honor
This nice wonderful judge is wasting her breath.
She definitely practiced great restraint to an agonizing extent. That is integrity.
As someone from the UK, I am fascinated by sovereign citizens, This is the first judge to really make sense of it for me. As pedants when it comes to our English language, we sometimes pick up when people ask us if we can do something, eg 'Can you bring me a glass of water?' when they really mean 'Would you bring me a glass of water?' What she is saying is, yes you 'can' travel wherever and whenever you like, in other words, we have the ability and right to travel, but you 'need' to have the necessary documentation if you are going to do so by driving a car.'
These sov cits should be automatically sent for a mental assessment! What a waste of court resources!
This judge schooled this defendant and I applaud her for her patience! Hopefully, he learned that rules apply, and the SovSit nonsense he downloaded is useless in the real world.
Narrator: He didn't 😀
@@cdwilliams1 Eh... your're not wrong🤷♂
No chance. She kept telling him how smart he is and that is a disservice to him in many ways. A perfect measure of intelligence is your ability to comprehend and he is lacking in that area
@@crispyone2564. Saying he’s intelligent is a tactic for her. She doesn’t mean it.
I don't applaud her patience. With all due respect, she was far too tolerant. Judges are not there to educate or convince. It's like she was trying to convince a Christian to convert to Islam.
I think I saw this in the Constitution. "The right to be a dumbass shall not be abridged."
Lol
Perfection.
So we don't have the right to travel freely?
@@idareya7250 huh? The right to travel is in the Constitution. Just not by what method. That's the part that is regulated by the states. These idiots think it means by any method and that they don't need to show they are knowledgeable about how to operate whatever vehicle they're using.
@@idareya7250we have the right to travel freely, but the means of that travel can be restricted. For example, someone without training can’t just take the left-hand seat of an aircraft and take off. He has to earn a pilot’s license and be rated for the type of craft he plans to fly. So his means of travel is restricted, but not his travel. He can walk, ride a bicycle or a horse, hitch up a team and wagon, or ride one of those
The SovCit Cits are partially right. US citizens have a constitutional right to travel. What they don't understand, and I've never seen a judge explain, is they are not being ticketed for illegally traveling. There are many modes of travel, you can walk, ride a bike, ride a horse, etc.. all without the need for a license or insurance. However, it is illegal to operate a motor vehicle on public roads, whether for purposes of travel or pleasure, without a license or insurance, and that is what they are being cited for, not simply for traveling.
So, he came out of high school government class not knowing the definition of legislative, executive and judicial.
1. It will always amaze me when these "citizens" both want to uphold the constitution, but also don't consider themselves a citizen of the USA. Its all talking in circles.
2. How quick and amazing these court reporters are.. They're the real heros here. Can you imagine getting every single word down, especially with people talking over each other, etc. Damnnnn!
Aren't they just saying. Not part of the US corporation?
She entertained that FOOL wayyyy to long and the fact that she kept allowing him to talk over her infuriated me!
"What slavery am I asking you to do right now?" LOL what a question.
It always amazes me how court reporters are able to keep up with everything that’s going on in any hearing.
Claiming he has a federal passport when in fact it is NOT authorized by same, means he could face federal charges.
He is lying.
Comparing the totally voluntary act of getting a license to slavery, arguably the worst thing humans have done to one another, is extremely disrespectful
Yeah, people love to have official permission to move their property over a commonly owned public easement designed for movement of their property to access their land by right, weird huh?
@@Starman909 public owned, so there are rules for it. You people have the highest sense of self entitlement
@@lewdachris7721 rules yes, but a driver’s education “Certificate of Competency” with an insurance bond would meet the state’s interest for public safety. NO driver’s license, car registration or civil traffic tickets needed, but there is no money for the states and insurance companies with that? The law is a wonderful thing, follow it?
@@Starman909 people need to prove they can drive safely. They need to have their car registered and inspected so the state knows it’s legal to be on the road, again safety. And it needs insurance in case you wreck someone else’s stuff. They have the power of the constitution to do all this. Why is that so hard?
That's not the worst thing people have done to each other.
These are people that think the roads were left behind from old gods and not paid for by taxes
Wrong these are people who have a basic understanding of their God given unalienable rights. They understand the treason that was committed with the passage of the 14th amendment. They are patriots standing up for everyone's rights. They might get railroaded by our corrupt administrative Roman courts, they might not have the proper knowledge to stand against these courts, but they are there , for good reason. It's amazing how dumbed down and brainwashed the American people are, that they actually support the tyrants that have enslaved them. It's disgraceful.
The judge kept referring to Mr Williams as "intelligent." Someone please cue up Senior Inigo Montoya.
Judge actually not that bright says state can make laws that are stricter but can't make laws that violate federal law that is incorrect if that was so Marijuana wouldn't be able to be made legal by states which is federally illegal
@@StackinGreene In terms of civil rights, the States cannot make laws which protect civil rights less than what the Federal laws (and caselaw interpreting them) do. That is what she was referring to.
These guys remind me of a 5 year old that can't pronounce "spaghetti" and keep saying "pasgetti". It's cute for a few times, then you with their palate would just harden and we can be done with it.
This man doesn’t hear anything she is saying. He will never change. He is too far down the rabbit hole!
She was enjoying this! I liked her. She tried to make him understand. Saying he is intelligent was a maneuver to keep him talking .
That ole adage by Mark Twain, “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. “
So does the Bible in Proverbs
I love sovereign citizens. They're the greatest forms of entertainment.
I thank this excellent judge who insisted that he speak loudly enough to be heard online. It is evident that she knows (as she knew with his filed “motion” of “jurisdiction”) that he was going to be a sovcit, and therefore knew he would end up on LTWM. So she made real sure that he would be heard so we can all laugh at the idiot. 🤣
She’s a real servant of the public
She likely figured a polite, calm education is more effective than an iron fist and no patience....
Cus SovCits KNOW they are ginnabe shot down. They want the opportunity to be sanctimonious and claim victimhood of unconstitutional tyranny and government overreach.
Its narcissism.... they are always a victim, its always done TO them, not because of them. Nothing bad that happens is their fault.
And most SovCits aren't SovCits untill they get caught.
He didn't have a license and insurance because he didn't wanna pay for it... not because of his political beliefs. 😂
And to think he would have understood ALL of this if he just paid attention in 6th grade social studies.
I love the fact that you are explaining things to people like me who obviously believes in the Constitution of both the states and the federal government and telling us where the right to travel comes in versus the right to drive a car. Thank you.
Why is she encouraging him? His brain is NOT phenomenal.😂😂 I would go the other way and say it's barely functioning
Darrell Brooks was the ultimate sov cit trial. He also relied on printed out sov cit paperwork, but for a murder trial
A trial for multiple murders.
This judge is so sweet. She takes the time to try to help this guy understand the US constitution, state constitution, and the three branches of government.
Sadly she’s talking to the wall. He didn’t learn a damned thing
I find it amazing how those people claim they are not US citizens and that the rules don’t apply to them, don’t they realise that someone who is a foreign citizen on vacation must still follow all traffic laws if they wish to drive in the USA.
No...in thier world it's traveling....not driving 😅
Foreign visitors to the US whether they are driving or not are subject to the same laws as US citizens from what I know. Visitors do have rights but not the same as US citizens in the US
@@UncleZ62words matter. The definition of driving is for commercial purposes occasionally. Commerce is driving.
@AertheAngel words do matter, so why do you keep leaving out all the other definitions of driving? that is only one of MANY definitions for driving. It is NOT the only definition for driving that matters. That definition pertains to a CDL, we are talking about regular driving.
@@jacobsmith7385 the only definition that matters in this regard to the court is the one in the statutory codes...when applied to statutory persons.
I do appreciate this judge, instead of just shutting the SovCitiot down, actually gave him homework to do in class. Brilliant. She ought to be able to sentence him to writing a report on how he's wrong on each and every item he mentioned. Cue the theme music for "The More You Know"
It's shameful that he's equating slavery to getting a drivers license! Unconscionable. It's down right offensive.
As they say in UK " A defendant who represents himself has a fool for a lawyer"
"I went to Detroit 36th District Court and ALL I GOT was a copy of the14th Amendment!"
😂
@@LawTalkWithMikeis losing rights funny to you?
Being a citizen of a corporation masquerading as government under the color of law, is a choice. The 14th amendment was never to apply to the citizens of the 50 states of the union. It was to give the freed slaves citizenship of the district of Columbia, because the States didn't want them if you have not repudiated your 14th amendment citizenship, your not very bright. The 14th amendment converted your natural unalienable rights into duties and privileges.
@@idareya7250 Says the moron typing freely from his parents basement.
@@idareya7250 😆😆😆
" Thats all I can stands ,I can't stands no more. " A quote from Popeye that I have not thought of in years !
Annoying when judges keep engaging with these people
You should see Judge Brian Oakley! Wham! Bam! Contempt of Court! I saw him on Team Skeptic.
@@sheiladineen9483as it should be. Refusing to answer simple questions about one's identity and whether or not they want an attorney, CONTEMPT OF COURT
@@thememe986what does the 4th amendment say?
Yeah. Waste of time and very expensive resources.
@@idareya7250 what does the 4th amendment have to do with disobeying traffic laws? 😂
If the SovCits have the all-encompassing right to travel, does that mean that I can enter an airport and fly a commercial airliner without a Pilot's License? These people are beyond stupid.
Exactly 💯, But my question is, why is this judge entertaining this stupidity..? Let him take it to trial, because we all know how this will end for him. 🤦🏾♂️
I mean I guess… if you’re morally okay w stealing things such as an airplane… 😂 you’re right.. that would be stupid 😂
No you cannot, you would be operating in commerce, hauling passengers for hire. But you have every right to fly your private plane without license.
@@terrybelden876 Not being argumentative, but... you do need a pilots license to fly a private plane. I have one.
@@davident1 that is corporate policy, not law.
"How are you going to deal with that?" When the judge quotes the 14th ammendment. His brilliant response..."uhhh...I don't agree with that."😂
I'm guessing no citizenship education in elementary school and no civics in secondary education. I heard one judge ask a sovcit, if he genuinely believed he was not subject to the laws of any form of government, then why was he coming to court? She told him, paraphrasing, "If you truly believe that, then don't come to court , just don't come."
Judge Lynnise Bryant told the sovcit that.
No, I think 90% of them have so much trouble with their driving record, they just don't see a way out, so they hear this nonsense and think, that's the answer.
Traditionally American student had some of the BEST education in civics! The design of US governance is relatively new and creative with a strong commitment to freedom. Americans have been proud of their invention of this "union of sovereign states" style of governance and they revere their Bill of Rights. As such, they have always done a great job of teaching each generation in school so they could "pass the torch" onto young Americans who will participate in governance in the future.
Sadly, civics classes have been dropped from the school requirements in most states. Each year, fewer and fewer kids learn about state sovereignty or about the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Most parents today couldn't pass a basic quiz about the three branches of government (legislative, executive, and judiciary) and couldn't even tell you what a "constitution" is for. Parents don't understand it well enough to teach their kids and the schools don't need to do it either.
In Canada, we don't call it "civics," but we have Social Studies that includes mandatory education about governance each year from about Grade 4 up to Grade 12.
My kids are in junior high school. They're familiar with the role of a federal constitution, the contents of the _Constitution Act_ including the _Charter of Rights and Freedoms_ and they can talk meaningfully about that material.
By the way, when I say that Americans are proud -- and SHOULD be proud -- of their country, I'm not saying it's perfect. They started this amazing experiment in freedom in the late 18th century, so surely there is room for improvement.
My worry is that this improvement happens only through education and understanding. Each generation must teach civics so the kids actually UNDERSTAND their constitution. Only then can they work toward making their country even better.
(For example, have you ever read the 14th Amendment?? Notice the mention of "male landowners." Ya think maybe this made sense at the time but could be updated today??)
They stopped teaching civics in public school, so guys like this self-appointed "expert" are surprised to learn that the judiciary includes judges!!! He's clueless... and it might not be entirely his fault.
@@HogTieChamp
American students learn this is Social studies just like Canadian students do. They also learn that the Earth is spherical yet we still have flat earthers out there.
Education in public schools isn’t the answer for these conspiracy theorists.
@@GoodnightJLH That's a great point. I'm certainly not suggesting that the reduction (or elimination) of proper civics education is the cause of this mess. To borrow your analogy, the schools could go ahead and stop teaching anything about the shape of the Earth and most people would still pick up the knowledge that it's round.
I think the roots of all of this stuff (young-earth creationism, SovCit, anti-vax flat earther, etc) if found in an overall sense of entitlement to "respect my beliefs." I've spoken with many flat earthers and anti-vaxxers. At some point during a discussion of facts, the nutter will blurt out "I have a right to my opinion!"
When you disagree with them, they'll say that you're "attacking" them. (Note that they can disagree with you and they can accuse every expert in any field of conspiracy, but by not agreeing with a nutter, YOU are "attacking" THEM.)
Anywayz... Going back to civics... With flat-earth stuff and anti-vax stuff, at least students are taught the basics of it, then they have to buck against this teaching with they become an indignant nutter. With evolution and with civics, kids don't even learn the basics, so it's easier to be a misinformed nutter in these areas.
He is just trying to get out of paying a ticket.
You got that right! He won’t pay it anyway. This is how he handles all of his responsibilities!
They end up paying more and jail😵💫
Alot of bull💩and paying more just pay the ticket fine
I’m not certain this is the whole deal. They never intend to pay, so that might not be the motivation. They are not intelligent enough, or have been brainwashed beyond intervention. They are just self centered cult members who were not raised properly, are chronically unemployed, and have poor impulse control.
I do not think so. He has no intention of ever paying. He just wants attention he never gets .
Could you explain why the judges don't ask for a visa?
If I want to travel to the USA, they will ask for a visa at the border!!!
if he is not a us citizen he must have a visa correct?
🤣🤣🤣
Have you seen our border crisis lately
This one was too painful to finish lol. What a bozo
Me too, closed it before I got too pissed off!!!
His papers full of stupid 😂😂😂
This could be SO SIMPLE:
SoftSet - "I don't contract with the State of Michigan."
Judge - "Then you can't use our roads."
END OF STORY.
You forgot a line - “I find you guilty”
Absolutely. That’s the easiest way to say it.
Well, a SovCit's brain is where nuance goes to die, so you'd have to try explaining that yes, they can't _ban_ you from the roads entirely, but you need a license for _certain activities_ on the road, like driving.
Wrong, you pay for those roads every time you pull up to the pump. You have every right to travel in your private conveyance on the roads.
STATE OF MICHIGAN, it a foreign corporation masquerading as government under the color of law. It's all fraud. These corporations are foreign to our republic and repugnant to our constitution.
Is it a slow day? Why the hell is she even entertaining him??
Is he not allowed to speak?
@@idareya7250In court, no. The judge can take that right away because it is not unfettered. You really need to learn alot about law, you just keep spreading ignorance.
Im guessing yeah. Or she was hoping to knock some sense into that dense head of his
I don't understand why the judge keeps citing the citizenship rules. It doesn't matter if you're a citizen. It's not like a french tourist can come to the US and rob a bank.
You can't drive to Canada and commit crimes just because you're not Canadian. That's not how jurisdiction works.
You are confused, they are talking about recognized status in the United States. Citizen is the lowest form of status, it is slavery.
It's about your status, when you where born you where a national of the state of the union you where born in. (Not the state of corporation) the highest form of status. Several days or weeks later your birth certificat was registered, you became property of the United States corporation ( a citizen aka slave of the corporation). Several years after that the state executed murdered your person and replaced it, with a ficticous all capital letter entity known as nobody and social security holds the death record. It is why you receive a summons to appear in court, they are summoning the dead to appear before them.
Now the whole system, is based off the un copy written edition of the king James bible. It was mirrored, the county represents the house of David. It is also why the sheriff's wear the six sided star of david. Much has been done to destroy the freedom our founders earned, to draw the American people back into the system of slavery that controls the world.
@@terrybelden876what? I don’t understand
😂😂😂😂@@terrybelden876
Mike, your videos are a genuine lesson in basic law. Thank you. I am learning so much.
I know this is unconstitutional, but I wish the courts could impose a triple fine to these a-holes when they waste the tax payer's time and money by going to a jury trial. They should pay for it if(when) they lose.
They need to be stopped. She wasted SO MUCH TIME with this ignorant waste.
It's too bad trial by jury is in the constitution. It shouldn't be an option for traffic infractions.
Well- that was upsetting. The judge let this go on for an hour and it should have been shut down in 2 minutes.
The law allows them to speak. Cutting off points can be grounds for mistrial. That is why they’re doing what they’re doing, and why the judges let them ramble.
@@provostroar The law doesn't allow them to speak over others, especially the judge. That can be grounds for contempt. In addition, motions and objections have a format that must be followed, even by Pro Se defendants. The judge could have easily denied the frivolous motions. I am not saying that they can't talk, but they have to follow the court rules, which this person didn't.
I think she has not dealt with a lot of SovCits, and she is working hard to change his mindset. I want to assume she won't be this patient with the next one she'll encounter.
@@provostroarbullshit. He stated his case and repeated it over and over. She should’ve shut it down a long time ago.
True but entertaining
Bless this judge for being so patient! 😂
I don’t have that kind of patience, especially with someone that just wants to debate
Too patient.
Judge: “So who do you think has authority over you?”
Dum Dum: “The Judicial, not the Legislative.”
🤦♂️
These people are dumber than a box of rocks
Driving is a privilege. We are not born and the state gives us a car, vehicle whatever you want to call it. Back then when they said the right to travel, they didn’t have cars. They couldn’t have meant the right to travel in cars because they didn’t have any
When finding loopholes is more complicated than getting and holding a valid driver license
And he didn't actually find any.
The judge entertained this man for Far Too Long!
But it entertained us.
Yeah it's such a waste.
She is great I think
@@michaelmarquez6133 Absolutely!
This was fun. The judge felt like going over all the stupid with him, and gave us all a civics lesson.
Did she though?
These judges ought to recite Hendricks vs. Maryland, which specifically addresses this point.
What would save time:
SC: "You don't have jurisdiction."
J: "As you are physically in the area, I find that I do."
SC: "I don't have a contract with this state/municipality."
J: "I find that you do."
SC: "I have the right to travel."
J: "No one has impeded that right."
SC: "Boo-hoo. I disagree with you."
J: "Appeal it."
The end.
I am not bored with this. I find it interesting that so many people are sovereign citizens and the reasons for why they think they can get away with it. I'm a true believer in the 10th amendment which gives the states the rights to do the things not enumerated for the federal government.
I can't get Hello, hello, hello out of my head and find that many times during the day I find myself saying, "uh...that would be a no!"
I repeatedly hear the screaming sheep through the course of my day!! ROFLMAO!!!
The judges need a cheat sheet to deal with this and shut it down faster. She's trying to explain, but he doesn't want to understand. She's wasting her time.
She had time this day.
She knew she was wasting her and the court personnel's time, but did it anyways cuz she wanted to.
That judge spent way too much time explaining to the first guy. He knew damn well he has to have a license to drive. Give him his punishment and move on. Give him jail time 😊
Judge and lawyer are kicking his butt all over the courtroom! Ouch!
Always cracks me up that SovCits have to read everything‼️‼️😂😂😂🙄
Oh Judge…please just reply to his nonsense with “You’re mistaken. Motion denied.” Stop allowing these leeches to waste the court’s time.
Thank you!
Maybe but sometimes it’s better to actually show them why they’re wrong. Just occasionally a light bulb will go off.
I’m glad to see LEOs and courts are more aware than even a decade ago. They are getting better with being more direct and having a process without needless engaging with nonsense arguments and tying up already packed courts time. They at least know what to anticipate and what a nonsense argument is vs an ernest inquiry/debate.
Also knowing what to anticipate and delay tactics is helpful.
Mistakes of error and presumptions are what these administrative courts rely on.
It appears that no amount of explaining, by a person well versed in the law, to most sovereign citizen is pointless. For most of them it is a delusion no amount of proof will be sufficient to dissuade them from their fixed and incorrect ideas.@@Outnumberedbykidsandcats
His special jury instructions will probably read something like "only believe me and not the prosecutors"😂😂
The funniest part of this hearing: I guarantee, the smarter the judge told him he is, the more insecure & dumber he felt. What an intelligent judge. The true insults sound polite on the surface, but they take seed in the mind, sprout and grow into full blown insecurity. Round of applause, Judge.
If ignorance is bliss, this guy is one of the happiest people on the planet.
Judge: What about not having insurance?
Defendant: That's a trick of nature.
There would be Nothing but Chaos if this Man had his Way!!!
This feels almost like another psych Eval trial. Judge is so patient with explaining why his delusions are not valid.
My head hurts from this!!!!!!! How can he think any of this makes sense? This judge is just having fun
Shes awesome i think shes the one that sings Preeetrial
This judge is so good! She is breaking it all down in simple easy to understand terms. He has no argument!
… and yet, he argued with her for an hour. Should have been over in 10 minutes or less.
Most respect to the court reporter keeping up with all this mumbo jumbo that he's saying
Good for that judge, my response to this fool would be “ your and idiot” “ by Felicia”
I think the defendant should pay the judge for the Law 101, Constitutional Law 101, Amendments 301 lessons
I also love that she went Biblical on him 😂
Definitely a Samuel "el bay" Jackson moment
Love how we’re getting a lesson on slavery on the first day of Black History Month. What timing! This judge had time today!
He wants all the rights with none of the responsibilities. And even if we consider the constitution to be a contract between the citizens and the government, that would mean that he in fact DOES want a contract, he just wants to modify it so all the burden is on the government and all the rights go to him. It's greedy. It's rude. It's asinine.
I know this is an exercise in futility by the gentleman arguing his case, but I find it very interesting and I appreciate this TH-cam channel. I appreciate your allowing this to be broadcast to me.
Am I alone thinking that someone on the bench needs a prosecutor who has done a little research on his claims and is capable of arguing the facts without stopping everything to look shit up?
Nope. The judge just displayed a colossal waste of time and taxpayer money.
This jury trial should be fun.
The jurors will think they’re being punked … nobody could be that stupid.
I wonder if he argues in line at the Jewels to remove sales tax since he doesn't contract with the state
Her patience indicates that she has a son his age.
THANK YOU!!! finally a judge who tells them, you can travel by other means..
I think the prosecuting attorney when they were in the office was saying 'you're not going to believe the crazy that's going on in court!'
I believe she’s Entertaining his absolute Asinine, arguments..WAYYYY WAYYYY TOO MUCH. Send Him on His Way 💪🏼🤛🏼👊🏼
@Nefertiti0403
I agree! What a waste of time!
There was a judge in Tennessee or Mississippi that closed the Sovereign Citizen DOWN! I just saw it yesterday but I'd never seen him before. 🤔
I feel like she must not have encountered someone like this before
So the case referenced (Shapiro vs Thompson) was about an unwed pregnant teen mother who moved to another state and was not able to get state financial assistance due to residency requirements. So the “right to travel” has fork all to do with driving without a license. WTF.
This hearing brings a song to mind: 🎶You spin me right round baby, right round, like a record baby, right round, right round🎶
I now take my " Screaming Goat" to work...They love it
I'm all about educating sovcidiots, but the way the judge did this basically with Google was inefficient, embarrassing and unprofessional. She needs to knock on Judge Perkins door and take some tips on how to do it like a boss.
I’d like this comment 10 times if I could. What a shit show, and toad boy walked out thinking, I sure nuff show dem lawful bitches. 😂
Yes!
You mean googling what a bill of attainder is and still getting it wrong? Listening to her explain separation of powers is painful.
This judge needs to learn how to argue with SovCits
The judge already knew the BS was coming
She has let this goof go on with his nonsense WAAAAYYYY too long! Wrap it up. He's not absorbing the info you're giving him!!!! Take control of your courtroom, maam!
Those dogs are just so cute. I am watching from the office today, and they just make me miss my puppy.