Episode 291 - The Contract Stalemates

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
  • There are a few updates on the Lucas Raymond contract and an estimate on Seider. The NHL "Dates to Watch" list has been revealed and could the Red Wings swap a player with Toronto for Nick Robertson?
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ความคิดเห็น • 32

  • @JambiPot
    @JambiPot 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I get being upset that Mo and Ray aren't stateside, but there may be INS / visa reasons behind that. While the team still holds their rights, they are technically not under contract, and technically don't have a job in the USA. We've seen that happen before, especially with European players, so it's quite likely they are staying there on the advice of their agency.
    Despite not being here, I think it's a really good sign that they are training together! I'm happy to wait a week or two into camp if it secures a long-term deal for both of them.

  • @kenyoung3265
    @kenyoung3265 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Look who bothered to show up. Did he bring his lunch?

    • @GrindLinePod
      @GrindLinePod  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@kenyoung3265 not this time 🤣

  • @zakk3153
    @zakk3153 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If its really 8x8 and Yzerman isnt signing it idk what he is thinking. Raymond and Seider on 8x8's would be ideal.

  • @craigkinney8063
    @craigkinney8063 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    maybe its not dollars, but signing bonus amount that lockout proofs the contracts, and chris ilitch doesn't want it.

  • @socialmediag5485
    @socialmediag5485 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yes let’s trade Berggren for another mediocre small forward lmao ... much rather hang on to Berggren who’s been a dominate shl and ahl forward and who had much more offensive abilities. Can’t expect miracles from him when you shove him on a 4th line with garbage linemates
    Yzerman’s to blame for constantly delaying players . Agree with him on holding a stand with raymond and seider. This is a cap world, love seider but he’s not worth more money than makar and raymond shouldn’t get a penny over 8. Entice them with signing bonus’s. Yzerman will get them done

    • @kenyoung3265
      @kenyoung3265 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Will "Bad News" play Berggren? He is a career killer after all.

    • @socialmediag5485
      @socialmediag5485 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kenyoung3265 who the hell’s bad news

    • @GrindLinePod
      @GrindLinePod  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @socialmediag5485 Makar contract isn't recent. Cap goes up, contracts go up. Faber is the most recent comparable.

    • @socialmediag5485
      @socialmediag5485 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@GrindLinePod seider is no where near the level of makar. Faber got 8 , seider shouldn’t get anything close to 9 . 8,5 is the absolute max

    • @jessecoonce1363
      @jessecoonce1363 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Maybe Yzerman should have "taken a stand" when negotiating contracts with Copp, Chiarot, Holl, and to a lesser extent, Compher. He overpaid those 4(and needlessly traded for Petry after just signing Holl, and now is when he is supposed to finally become a hard negotiator with the future stars of the team? Maybe he should learn some self restraint come July 1 instead and spend his cap dollars on the worthwhile players.

  • @sergioalpert66
    @sergioalpert66 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You give Raymond whatever he wants. You tell Seider to take it or leave it.

    • @GrindLinePod
      @GrindLinePod  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @sergioalpert66 you give them both what they want. Seider is a 23 year old top RD. Very hard to find.

    • @sergioalpert66
      @sergioalpert66 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GrindLinePod I think some people overrate Seider. His brain shuts down when there's a scramble in front of the net. He is an all-time great at screening his own goalie.

  • @NetstixNChel
    @NetstixNChel 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This aged super poorly. Probably worst episode you guys have done yet.

    • @GrindLinePod
      @GrindLinePod  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because he signed 4 days later? We put out the episode and he didn't have a contract.

  • @Fitsu13
    @Fitsu13 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd be shocked. It doesn't matter if you go from 8 to 8.9 if you miss a year of an 8 year deal. It's hard to imagine they're over one million apart in expectations. Then again... if you want that top 3 draft spot, that would help you get there. Lol

  • @redizit
    @redizit 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Raymond not practicing with the team waiting for a contract could be detrimental to his development, he has to train with the best and have his mind in the game. You see how every star in the NFL that holds out loses skill dramatically, then the team pays for them anyway but the player already had in his mind " I'm gonna suck until I get paid" Just pay him his money, he's a long term players, no less than 8 years

  • @SandalwoodBros
    @SandalwoodBros 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Swayman is American, there are no visa issues with him practicing in Boston w/o a contract

  • @seanorr2003
    @seanorr2003 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Steve pass is over this situation has piss me off bad he had over a year to sign his 2 best young we have. This off season was a joke he did nothing to make this team better. Maybe be time for Steve to move up and give 1 of the assistant Gm the chance

    • @GrindLinePod
      @GrindLinePod  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'd say he improved the team but Mo and Raymond should be signed.

  • @directionallycorrect2027
    @directionallycorrect2027 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow. You guys are clueless. Go back and look at Stamkos contract negotiations with Yzerman in TB. Nothing new here.
    Save your overreactions for the Lions opener next year. Lol

    • @GrindLinePod
      @GrindLinePod  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Stamkos signed his post rookie 5-year deal on July 19th, 2011. He signed his 8 year extension in Tampa on June 29th, 2016.

    • @directionallycorrect2027
      @directionallycorrect2027 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GrindLinePod overreaction and superficial research. Yzerman walked Stamkos into FA in 2016 before he finally signed him. I love Lucas but he’s no Stamkos.

    • @GrindLinePod
      @GrindLinePod  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @directionallycorrect2027 Stamkos never made it to free agency. Signed 2 days before. Situation is not the same and Raymond is a star in the making.

    • @scottritcey5166
      @scottritcey5166 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No way Danielson makes the team. It's SY we're talking about. Needs 5 years in GR

    • @directionallycorrect2027
      @directionallycorrect2027 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GrindLinePod “up to” not “into” stupid phone. The rest is correct