1987 Renault 5 GT Turbo Review: Has Time Been Kind To Ali G's Wheels?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ส.ค. 2020
- From the collection of Ben (80s_90s_00s_cars on Instagram) we have this amazing 1987 (Phase II) Renault 5 GT Turbo. Once a fire breathing hooligan wagon, now the 5 GT enjoys a quiet retirement. What is it really like to drive?
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the 5 GT turbo was one of the most extreme fun drives I ever owned back in the early '90's, If you push it to the full limit which I think is fair to say you weren't really able to do here James, it out performs and out handles all other hot hatches of the day and once tweeked to 180bhp as mine was, it out performed many more high performance cars, me in my modern Porsche today would not be able to keep up with me in the '90's in that Renault! on a b road that is, mine finally blew up of course ! great video J thanks.
Mine was also tweaked like yours and I'd agree it was a hard car to catch on back roads. Well with a better driver than me. Sadly I run out of talent in a peddle car, but friends of mine who had driving talent reckoned it was a very fast car, if twitchy at the limit for average drivers.. It's one reason why I ended up with an Integra Type R. It's _far_ more forgiving of low talent drivers like myself.
Being a boy Racer of the 80s I still remember the first time I came across one, a phase 1 electric blue having a ding dong with a Astra GTe. They were blisteringly quick compared to its contemporaries like the MG Metro turbo, XR2 and Nova GTE and probably quicker than the legendary Escort RS Turbo in real world shinangigans. It was a car way ahead of its time and showed the future would be lightweight low capacity turbo charged engines pushing out big power. Modern cars like the mk8 fiesta ST and Fiat Arbath owe everything to the mighty Renault 5 GT Turbo. 👍
A Renault 5 Turbo is only as fast as the recovery truck which it's on the back of.
@@JonJon-dk3nh If you are going to post that at least back it up with some AA / RAC data? I have no skin in the game as I've never owned one but back then the Renault 5 GT Turbo was the Golf R of its day!
@@TeamZSsx Head gaskets. I agree they were very popular and tuned ones sounded nice if the owner was brave enough to give it some welly. My friend spent a year buying parts and tuning his. I went to a car show in it and got a AA recovery truck home. Whilst waiting hours for the recovery truck, two other Renault 5 Turbo owners were waiting for their's too (all head gaskets). I like all cars but the 205 GTI would be a safer bet. More driver focused and reliability. A standard Turbo Technics 1.9 GTI was just as fast as my mates 5 turbo which he spent all year tuning as well.
When I was 17 (now 44) I had a Fiat Uno 70SX (70 bhp) and these were loosely considered a 'warm' hatch. A 120 bhp Renault 5 GT Turbo was pure unobtainium back then!
That Renault 5 is made of instant mash potatoes. Lucky it's slow.
@BOB1 CLO I was teasing. I used to drive a MK1 golf GTi 1.8 campaign. Was more solid than the Renault though a bit slower.
@BOB1 CLO I never got to drive a Renault 5 turbo, I suspect if I had I would have loved it. I did drive (not own) a Pug 205 GTi for 2 weeks and it was great. I always loved the MK1 golf GTi and thought it fast until I drove a friend's RS Turbo which was a game changer, in a straight line at least 😀
I was lucky enough to have the uno turbo when I passed my test at 17 mate. What a weapon it was, the gun I had in that was amazing. It was well under rated and a giant killer
A lot of men of a certain age will be locking themselves away in the toilet to watch this one !
Comfiest seats I ever had in my little Renault 5!
The 5 GT Turbo is the only production car (Group N) that ever won a World Rally Championship race (Cote d'Ivoire 1989). Quite an achievement for the old Cleon-Fonte first released in 1962 on the Floride.
I had a 1986 phase 1 in pearl white on a 'D' plate. and loved it. Drove it to within an inch of it's life for 6 months when I was a wee 19 year old in 1989. Hot starts were always an issue as the car sat right above the turbo and the fuel would evaporate. A cooling fan was added to avoid this but the fan was notorious for seizing. Also an issue was the alloy radiator if you didn't use the correct de-ionised water and furred it up internally, blocking it. Further along, had a phase 2 R5 GT Turbo in Red (1989 G) on which I swapped the radiator out almost immediately. Phase 2 had the electric windows, was a bit more refined, slightly less turbo lag, had the sharper, painted body kit, roof spoiler above the rear window, different patterns on the seats and different wheels to a phase 1. Still a nightmare on hot starts though! My final R5 GT Turbo was identical to the one featured but the Electric Blue was only available on a 1987 D or E plate (on the phase 1 it with the unpainted black plastic bodykit). Great cars to drive if you can forgive the hot start, rattles and paper thin bodywork! Now I want one again having seen this.
same as me!!
This and the 205 GTI were brilliant backn in the day !
My brother had a MK1 Clio with a 5GT turbo engine in it, was running near 200hp and was an absolute laugh
I've never clicked on a video so fast, this is my dream car and it just keeps getting more expensive, I want a H reg, white blue or red. 😍
I had one of the last ones in tungsten grey. Still the most fun car I've owned. So light and responsive, and you could drive it quick without being totally illegal. Eventually I had to sell it as I was doing long commutes, but I always let it warm up and idle before turning off, and did 63k troublefree miles on the original turbo. I did find that is was a bit sensitive to tyres - I went to Pirellis from the original Michelins, and these lasted a lot longer, but it did not grip as well at the front. An enormously fun car to punt down a lane!!
The good old days where you drove a Gt Turbo with a spare clutch cable just in case.
yep. i changed mine 3 times, it had that horrible ratchet thing on the peddle that i could never get to work properly. its how i also learned to change gear without the clutch.
I still do!
The 11 TXE was exactly the same. I lost count the times I replaced it
😆 renowned for it
I always carried 2 cables 😂😂
The first car I wanted to see from the garage this is awesome, thank you, this channel is great
Living in America, let alone Alaska, I've always wanted to drive one of these, and you gave me the best understanding of the car without ever seeing one. Gold Star!
Hi all the way over there! From all the way over here, in Spain.
I applaud your calm view of Audi drivers.. Which brings me to why I am not a youtuber :-)
They're tossers. I came to a simple conclusion: if you can't beat them, buy something faster and then beat them...so I bought a Porsche. Sadly that also makes me a tosser...but I was a Lexus owner for 7 years and I still drive like one!
@@ApothecaryTerry haha, nah I have a Porsche definitely not tossers 👍😁
@@MagicAyrtonforever I dunno, being a bit of a tosser is part of buying any German car, it's almost part of the appeal! There's Porsche tossers and then there's Audi/BMW tossers though...
Thank you for always doing a proper outro at the end of each video. Let’s me watch every last bit of footage without jumping to the next video.
This car is my dream car right here, I'd rather have one of theses over a high end sports car anyday.
Mannymonster yes, although for me it’s the clio V6
@@onelyone6976 glad you agree! And yeah the Clio V6 is a beautiful car
As a daily driver I'll take the modern sports car, but as a 2nd car an old hot hatch is a winner. For me it's the 306 GTi-6/Rallye.
there are some that walk among us lol
Yes, I'd have to agree, no computer's helping, just pure driving.
This review gave me a flashback to 1989 when I was a passenger in the generation 1 GT Turbo...... which was driven by an absolute hooligan.
You can imagine that taking off over a humpback bridge at 70mph (single track road and blind).... my bum was chucking out the chocolate washers big time 😨🙀😱. Suffice to say that I never went near this car again.
Traumatic memory aside, I enjoyed the review 😆👍.
Great review, loved these back then, still do. Was going to buy one but then choose a 205 gti (only a 1.6) as insurance was a lot cheaper. Didn't really matter anyways, as I binned it 6 weeks later lol, ah the good old days!
I recall that the clutch cable issues were due to it being designed for left hand drive, then when it was produced for right hand drive it resulted in a long, twisting route from the pedal to the actuator.
I'm still from the time these were all over the classifieds for 1500 euro. Now they're close to 15.000 😂
O mercado Português também não é exemplo para nada...
@@mc1996 Como assim? Eu nem sequer mencionei Portugal...
@@viriatvsoflvsitania5422 os 15 mil, nem em todos os paises estão a esse valor, muito menos os que há 10 ou 15 anos se vendiam por 1500€ (ou menos!).
@@mc1996 Olhe que nâo é só em Portugal que este modelo está a + -15 mil (dependendo da condiçâo). Praticamente por toda a Europa este modelo está a esses valores. Faça uma pequena pesquisa pelo Autoscout ou Mobile.de e veja. Aliás, vi um a 20 mil 😅
With 1 bar of boost from the Turbo you get the proper old school lag from these cars, and it’s brilliant! Will never part with mine.
The 5 GT Turbo was my first car after uni. Loved it. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for coming to Hereford to film this, I recognise the roads. Don’t worry about the rattles as most cars here have them due to the very poor condition of the roads!
Loved mine back in the day great to drive lots of fun. Would buy another one tomorrow
I can remember the natural habital of these was the roundabout, crazy grip. Also the mad right-hand drive clutch cable that seemed to go around the engine bay 3 times...
Really enjoyed this video Thanks
Love this format and time!
And the Renault 5
Loved my Ph2 R5GTT back in the day. Properly modded with hybrid turbo, uprated clutch, uprated intercooler, ported head, about 180/190 bhp at 20psi with an enormously loud dump valve! Brilliant!
Love the quick specs! Compliments your review style ... please reload every video with this added 😂
This was pretty awesome... The 5 always had a great, unique look to it... Could you look into also covering another hatch with the "GT Turbo", the mk1 Fiat Punto GT?
I love the R5GTT... iv owed 5 over the years & a couple of the raiders... great fun to drive & it correctly set up & maintained its a great little toy
One of the quickest hot hatches back in the day and nice to see one in good original condition. Most were modified massively which is a shame.
One of my all time favourite cars. Had the pleasure of seeing both Group B Maxi versions getting spanked round Donnington Park during Renualt World series that they used to do years ago. Ive also sat in a turbo 2, my uncles friend used to have way back when, those rear arches in the flesh are incredible
I always wanted one of these. I saw an uno turbo lastweek. A right blast from the past.
When the head gasket blew, it blew! The rubber pipes literally grew to 3 times their size and BANG!
That D7f...
I lost count of the amount of headgaskets I went through . I ended up forging the engine
This was one of those cars that as a young man i really wanted. I've only ever been in one once and that made me want it more.
love it, I had this exactly year and colour .... my first dream car at 18 years old wow what great memories
Love the video been getting into these older car people like but there no supra amount of love because there worth about what they are silly fun that's surprisingly useful. ☺️👍🏻
This brings back memories I had a phase 1 on a D plate, I've owned numerous cars over the years and I have to say the GT turbo was my favourite I've owned. I'd give my right ball to have that car back now.
What I’d give for a dream garage with a 5GT, 205 1.9Gti and an Uno turbo inside.
There are plenty of others that a good case could be made for, but for me those three sum up the 80’s and who and what this market was aimed at.
Everyone is going to go Dewey-eyed about the cars of their youth when they reminisce, but I honestly think the era of these lightweight hot hatches is one that will never be beaten.
You were a very lucky person if you were young, enthusiastic and able to get your hands on one of these. A fun, uncomplicated and thrilling experience without all the congestion, cameras and misery you have today.
Fantastic cars for fantastic times.
I loved R5GT so much that back in the day I owned 2 of them wish I still had one great little cars always put a grin on your face 😁👍
Grins per mile 😊
Had an E reg one as a company car in 1987. Drove it like a tw8t all the time. Great fun.
Had one from new and drove it all the way to Cyprus back in the day. Did over 30k miles in one year in one. It was fantastic but lacked air con and the driver's door armrest got pretty painful on a long drive. Remember sticking some sponge onto the door rest. Slept in the back in the former Yugoslavia for a couple of hours (been driving for 12 + hours) and couldn't walk when I woke up. It was tiny. May buy another good example if nostalgia gets me one day.
Lovely. I hope you will make a video for Clio Williams soon.
Good review jay
I used to work in a garage. We got one in on Px. I blew the engine up after a few days 😂 it was a fun few days though.
I had the stage 2 tune by BBR on mine and it was mad. Even occasional flames! It used to wash it’s own back window under full acceleration in 1st and 2nd. The speedo used to randomly jump up to 40mph was I was sat still 😂 I’ve never loved another car as much as that one. It took everything I threw at it! Huge fun 😊
Of all the cars I've owned my phase 2, 5 GT is the one I want again, above Evo's, Lancia Delta, Subaru and even my current Cupra. Rose tinted view perhaps but man I loved that car.
Ahaaaaa! You did catch up with that TT at 4:52.
So embarrassing that a TT driver would even attempt such stupidity, an old TT is worth 5 grand at best , the 5 gt turbo is woth like 25 grand now , same price as a brand new top of the range TT
Had one in black, at 18 years old in 1990, loved it! Boot full of 2 x 12 in subs and amplifier.....Blacked out windows, got pulled by the old bill every day!
What I give to own that one :-) lovely and untouched, nice to see without crazy turbo and silcone pipes and pointless boost gauges screwed to the dash.. that's one fine motor
this clip made my day, as I once had one myself, didn't deliver "turbo" smootly, but was a real blast back in the day :)
Like the fact it's still got the original number plate. Liningtons, the Renault dealer in Portsmouth. Now sadly gone. Love an 80's Hot Hatch.
My 1st car was an F Reg GT Turbo. It was an amazing experience to own and drive the best hot hatch ever made. This one is in the best colour too - electric blue.
Cool car....nice review as always
I had 2 5GT Turbos back in the day - a mk1 which had the black plastic wheel arches 😂 the the mk 2 which had the facelift
Me too!
RS2Russ blew the turbo in the second one 😂
I can see my dream garage shifting and becoming a realistic garage over the course of this month...your videos tend to have that effect...fantastic
Happy to help :)
Yeah...I wish he'd done this before Porsche week, would have been a lot cheaper. I've bought the Porsche now though...
@@ApothecaryTerry ha ha
Good video, be great to see a review on some more 80's/90's hot hatches, mine was a nova GSI
I had a red Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI in the mid/late 90's whilst a student, direct competition to the Renault and it was truly an amazing car to drive. I wish I could drive it today, it's the only car I've ever owned that I still miss.
That takes me back. I had a lovely bright red one with a wastegate adjuster. It was like a jet propelled roller skate. "A bit of poke" doesn't sound like the 5GT I had, you certainly felt it when the turbo cut in.
I started out with a 5 GTL as my first car, then the 5TS and I always wanted the 5 Gordini / 5 GT Turbo but could never quite justify spending that much on a car on my meagre wages in those day. I might still get one just to scratch that itch when I retire in the next couple of years!
Loving these 80s/90s Classic hot hatch reviews - I had a Pug 205 gti, Golf gti, Ford XR2 - never had the R5 turbo as they had a shocking rep for reliability, fast though!
I owned alot of hot hatches in 80s and early 90s Gti's, GTE's best of all was the R5GT Turbo, light and reasonably powerful for a small hatch back then. when well driven on Twisty B roads it was a 205 gti slayer. In my humble opinion, the phase1 Gt5 turbos looked meaner and more purposeful than the phase2 cars, the most fun hot hatch of the 80s 😁👍
Yes indeed. I had a Raider special edition R5GT and on lanes and B roads it was very quick!
Nice to see that it was originally a Linningtons car. My parents bought a Renault 12 estate from the same Portsmouth dealership in 1973 - NBK 403M if it's still knocking around (which I very much doubt!).
My Renault 5 gt turbo was a beast with massive boost and tons of torque steer. I loved it, it was a proper handful of flame spitting pops and bangs.
What a delight and nice surprise! A modern day review of my favoured motorised roller-skate. James, did Ben first take you out and show you how it's done? It seems you were a bit reticent with your driving, when such a fun car does inspire confidence. It was the best car-related decision I ever made to keep mine and sympathetically restore it, with a few modernising touches.
Oh dear, if you go out in the R5GTT and you don't get accosted at least once by a potential buyer, you need to go out again! It's at that point when you meet the real passion that follows these wee beasties around. As for the lack of turbo-lag or torque-steer, you really weren't giving it enough welly. Yes, in relaxed mode, the car behaves just like a top-of-the-range car should, with the turbo not being kept too busy.
Give it the beans though and there's still not too many modern machines that you can't scream past at full-chat - back in the day any BMW was simply fair game. More often than not you'd win by better knowing how to handle the speeds though you might also quite quickly change your mind about the "straight-toward-that-tree" line you're taking! There's only one drawback to driving such a car these days. It's the idiots who "see an old car" and just pull out in front of you regardless - it's then you appreciate the "big hand from the sky" in the form of disc brakes all round!
When I've taken other turbo drivers out, (Ford, Fiat etc.) their very first remarks are about the comfort and superior ride. It's better than my 2009 205GT Renault Laguna Coupe, which is harsh by comparison. Every turbo car handles differently and it takes a go or two before you can relax and really enjoy cocking the inside rear wheel as you should. Jump into a different car and it's almost like going back to square one in learning its quirks.
Your £10k valuation is a bit out-of-date - an unmolested example will need an agreed-valuation insurance of around £15k with top examples getting closer to £20k - crazy prices for what is meant to be fun car, but the crippling GTT tax on spare parts these days forces the issue.
Now that's a car! Never got around to buying one of these as a lad, look at one and it had turbo issues so walked away. An itch I still need to scratch, maybe one day..
If I remember correctly it was the phase 1 version which had hot starting issues which was largely resolved when the phase 2 came out. I liked the R5 GT turbo more than the Pug 205 GTi in the late 80s. Epic car.
I drove one back in day, actually very good to drive nice steering wheel to hold decent mid range felt pretty good to drive and a lot better than the base models. My second favourite after the astra GTE 16v which I had for about 4 years and felt the business.
The series 1 5 TS was pretty quick too. We had one back in 1982 and you could easily scare passengers lifting a back wheel while cornering. And it had the front to back engine leant at an angle thus allowing the spare wheel to fit under the bonnet too.
Easily spot a Mark one by the square clocks in the dash and highback seats. Fabulous car. Wish we never sold it.
I had one. Once that turbo spooled it was like nothing else!
So funny that you were surprised how good it was. I owned one in grey in the late 80s and totally regret selling it. Will have to buy one now. The only criticism that can be leveled against it was that on wet roads you have to drive it 30% slower or it will try and kill you
Lift-off oversteer in the wet, I remember.
Wohoo! I am trying to get one of those back on the road! Cant wait to drive it... :D
It was the car to have in the late 80’s for twenty somethings 😀. It was a absolutely hoot to drive back in the day, especially when the turbo kicked in. Balances, poised, light (1.4 litres). The only protagonist was the Peugeot 1.6 at the time. Again, super light, super balanced, but just could not keep up with the GT. Game changer was the Pug 1.9 205. Not as balanced as the 1.6, but she was a beautiful ride. All the cars were light as a feather, hence a wonderful driving experience. Drive baldly, or having a bad day on the road, you could pay for it. In a nutshell, a euro scudmobile will weigh more nowadays with...let’s face it, no fun at all. God bless the days of FUN!
A friend had one back in the nineties, it was modified and caught fire a total write off, but looked great before it died
Still remember my one and only test drive- what a characterful car. Bought one needing minor fettling for £200 about ten years ago- wish I still had that XD
".....And a digital clock, to impress your friends!......It's comments like these and reviews on cars like these which makes your channel what it is!
Always wanted one of these. Seriously thinking about one as a weekend drive and hopefully investment. Got the 4x4 for the kiddies, Van for the daily, just need something for the weekend and this would be a lot of fun, something to tinker with and certainly not depreciating any more.
Have a lot of respect for this little beast of a car!
I remember mine being a right expletive deleted for snap oversteer when pushed. Great little car though. 🙂 My speedo broke too. 😁
it may have invented the term tripod and yes you needed to be quick to catch it!
Always wanted one back in the days when all my slightly older friendshad hot hatches. Uno turbo, nova gte and excort rs turbos etc.
I had a FIAT Uno Turbo in 1987, with digital speedo and rev counter, very modern! Interested in seeing your opinion of it, if you can find one!
alas in 1987 I only had a Uno 55 S as my second car...loved it..a huge step up from the first car - a classic mini
I had an Uno Turbo in 2004! It was great fun until it started blowing driveshafts up!
Ask him to review yours if not!
Matthew Gannon long gone I am afraid, swapped for my first BMW 3 Series.
Duncan Martin didn’t have that problem, mine was bought from a dealer where it had been used as a demonstrator.
Great memories....most of the time ! Bought a new one in Aug. 1988 (F456 DGK), tungsten grey was a new colour. Loved it...and yes the clutch cable broke on the M25 !!😁
Love that car of my favourites hatch backs ever :)
My mate had one of these and it was a shed, and still to this day it’s the most brutal car I’ve ever ridden in as he had the turbo boost maxed out and it had a massive dump valve on it
Brings back memories of the 80’s ... I had a pearl white ‘GT5’ in the day.... Have a Sapphire Blue ‘GT4’ in the present... 😀😀😀
My man is rocking a M&M's shirt. You always have your shirt-game on top, RESTECP!
i had a tuned pearl white 86 gtt as my first car in 1990,in three years it needed a gearbox a dozen clutch cables for some strange reason and a few wheel bearings. but it to this day brings back fond memories.had some epic races with rs turbos,ae86 twin cams and golf 16v's.every thing else probably on the road that wanted a go for that matter.but sure what else would you expect of a teenage boy racer with a 5 turbo lol even remember being pulled by the cops and instead of the telling off i was expecting got challenged to a race with the cops rs turbo.....the 90's really was a different era
What a lovely little reggie 5 still going
Such a beautiful car, I'd love one. 😀👍
Jay's getting over his hot hatch phobia 😃.
Williams Clio next!! You'll love it
Yay a return to form my man .. as much as I like Ferrari and Astons etc this sort of car that made me subscribe. More like this I say odd HERO car every now and then but hot hatches .. performance saloons or 80s 90’s coupes are where it’s at . I know the super cars you feature are “ cheaper” but still way out of the reach of most of us
When I saw the preview of this series I was hoping for this to be first
I drove a mates back in the late 90's and we were all used to nova sr/gsi's and the little r5 was a stonker compared to them, it pulled hard and the gear change was slick as can be - i regret never getting one... I guess i got its grandson in the 172, though. All the stories of overheating were down to poor maintenance - like the 172 i had, my mates r5 went on to 200k no problems.
When I was a kid a guy in my street had a smokey grey one. He had definitely done stuff to it because it sounded like a monster. I think he wrecked it 😂
I remember sitting in one at a carshow and thinking how modern it looked, haha
Had one, sprayed turquoise. 190bhp with a boost controller. Ended up going the same way Beirut did. Went bang, but went like shit off the shovel. Interior was Spartan, 2 seats, pedal, handbrake and dials. Literally what I left inside of it. I knocked off at a guess 100kg off the original weight. Miss it, alot.
Believe it or not, it wasn't the head gasket or turbo failure that ended the cars life. It was a mixture of rust and a ex gf. Bitch sold my alloys for 50 quid.
As a R5 GTT fanboy back in the day. One of the tricks was to fit "Saab APC" (Automatic performance control) out of a scrapped 900. The APC system was the worlds first electronic boost controller and it was a separate loom in the saab. So a piece of cake to take out and fit in any other car. There were then easy ways to mod APC to adjust the boost curve. Of course it also gave you knock detection, so some protection from blowing the thing up.
Brilliant reviewer with an amazing voice. Better than top gear material
Love this! Any chance you’re going to do a R21 turbo quadra? The french sleeper!
Oooh yeah. I didn't see one in the garage with the 5 so guessing not yet but I'd love to see that.
There are precious few Quadras on the road. We monitor most of them over at turboRenault.co.uk
I totally want this car Ben ...please !!!
You need to politely ask Damion from the Car Guys if you could have a drive in his beautiful Clio Williams. Damion, if you are reading this, a full review would be greatly appreciated.
Hold my diet coke