Thanks Warren, Worked on nitrogen accumulators on transmission valve assembly/test machines to seat the valve by sending high frequency pulses (1000 pulses/10 seconds) to ping the valve seats so they would not leak, then test the seats for leaks. After so many parts we had to manually breakdown the valve assy. and with a microscope viewer check the valve seats for concentricity. Like the valve control modules in the E4OD transmissions when I worked for Bosch as a maintenance line technician for transmission controls. If your supply regulator has a vent a safe way to discharge pressure it back the regulator off to close like you would on gas welding and cutting bottles leave hoses and valves open to regulator, that way a line does not blow-off accidently while venting. Santa needs to get you a couple of bottle carts/trolleys. 2500 psi missiles of stored energy.
Thank YOU @ Mongomay1 For The INFO I See A Time When Accumulators Will Be Used In renewable energy systems So many ways to apply this system as a battery so many ways.... Can't believe it hasn't been done already ...?? I Am 18 kw Solar Inverters & Wind x2 AC & DC Units 14years Running Now Take Care You & ALL The Tech's Out There Warren Is So Good Love That Tech.
I've been watching you for a short while now Warren. I know nothing about heavy equipment and diesel engines. I've been fascinated by the work you do! You really are a Bad ass mechanic! Love the video's become more and more interested with every one. Keep up the great work!
Interesting segment. I've never monkied with nitrogen much. I've watched as the mechanics at work have added Nitrogen to the Strong arm on one of our trucks, but never knew much about the process.
Thanks for including the safety factor. When I was 11 an uncle gave me a quick, vivid safety lecture about the power of logs on a landing suddenly shifting and rolling, crushing little climbing people. The image burned itself into my psyche and helped make me safety-conscious ever since. In addition to God’s special protection, that atitude spared me from maiming and death many times.
The Tree Huggers will be onto you now for releasing nitrogen into the air !!! LMAO Well Done Warren. I used to have a 55C and 95E challengers in Australia, they were great machines
Yeah that was interesting Warren.. I never really got to do that before and always thought they were just hydraulic. I do remember out on my uncles farm there were great cylinders like that back in the storage area but don't remember if he ever told me what they were for. Thanks again for taking me along.. This old man sure enjoys the heck outta your videos for sure.. carry on!
Love the warning sign, looks like a giant DNA helix will jump out and get you, like a jack in the box. We had nitrogen primary dampers/height adjustment on tracked equipment. Lot of big torque on nuts/bolts, and big pressure in the nitrogen cylinder, never a good day replacing them. Really enjoyed the video, I understood what you were explaining, means everyone else should to lol. Stay safe out there!!!
I bet your glade that expensive job is done I can't imagine have money like that tied up in a job waiting for payment but it cool to see the older tractors still around
I don't believe I've ever even heard of a Nitrogen Accumulator before. All I know about Nitrogen is we use it in circle track racing to drive the Air Guns (lug wrenches) and fill the tires because it is DRY - No Moisture content. No moisture to corrode the internals of the Guns and No Moisture to Expand the tires by expanding with rising temperature.
Steve Holton , Nitrogen accumulators have been used in hydraulic systems for many years . The Unimate robots i worked on in 1975 had them to compensate for pressure surges when robot made long fast moves . Charged to 575 psi .
Talk about a small world... I paused this video to read The Armed Citizen section of my American Rifleman magazine and the first article is about a suspect that was wounded by an armed Citizen outside a convenience store in Klamath Falls Oregon back in August!
It’s 3:00am in Wisconsin. Sorry I was late to class today. I’m still trying to remember how to fix the strawberry picker, UCB, Deere, tracks on an old cat in the forest, change engine in log truck to carb Regis and............... I’m passing aren’t I? Thanks Warren...
Yes sir hydrolic hammers on excavators take nitrogen....we had a guy that apparently could hear when a hammer was low on nitrogen...to bad he couldn't hear when they write two checks because he was wrong every time and got the ax..i dident realize how complicated the track tension system on this was..alot of engineering went into keeping these dam things tensioned
Always a fun job messing with high pressure gas installations that will kill you if you don't know what you're doing. I found those to be real attention getters when something goes wrong. Having a pneumatic gas accumulator helps to suck every bit of nitrogen out of them big tanks, though.
I might be mistaken about this but I think they could have done the track tension better assuming they have an air compressor on the engine and simply have a setup where it automatically tensions the tracks with a simple on/off switch that goes to a solenoid valve on an air tank and when the switch goes into the on state it opens the valve and then closes it when it's at the determined pressure
Similar nitrogen charging procedure as charging a skid steer hydraulic hammer. I usually have to add additional charge to compensate when disconnecting the hose set up.
I was wondering when you would get to the nitrogen. I had to pull both my cylinders off because both of them needed to be rebuilt. They would not hold nitrogen. I had to cut every pin to remove the cylinders there was no hammering them out.
There is a large spring inside that does most of tensioning. There is a bladder inside of the barrel as well that is charged. It acts as a shock absorber in the system if you will. In the tractors like an MT tractor where there is a hydraulic cylinder tensioning the track the accumulator is most important. It is why allows some flex in the system when you hit a ditch in a field it lets there be a little “give” in the system.
@@dieseldoc8694 I understand the theory of operation, I was just curious because most accumulators only have high pressure bladders to maintain a relatively constant pressure over a given pressure flux range. My sense would be that they are using a piston driven accumulator to eliminate the need for large tensioner springs altogether. Though, I'm just speculating from my Navy experience with accumulators everywhere.
You need a Supervisor! HA HA JK. I felt bad for you at first, all that work, now WTF? Then, 60 RT get more N woulda sucked. Leave for TG now, get out, have a happy one, eat dammit!
That didn't make sense. The plug you were playing with on the front of the cylinder i thought was for oil to loosen the track. There should be no gas there? The gas and spring should be on the shaft end, to tighten the track. Or am i misunderstanding.
You are. The hydraulic pressure is used to detention the track, the spring tensions the track, after you release hydraulic pressure and tighten track up the same end is charged with nitrogen as a shock absorber.
Warren, if you had a tool belt that had all the tools you needed so you wouldn't have to keep getting up, it would weigh over 500 lbs. LoL Normally you at least have a screw driver in your back pocket, why not keep that 18" Crescent Wrench in there too! Then maybe a pair of plyers' too. Well here we go back to the 500 lb tool belt!
Not a farmer or mechanic of any sorts, but that tensioner seems way overcomplicated for what it needs to do. And why the added nuisance of needing nitrogen over dry air that's 80% nitrogen anyway? Pressure change v: temperature isn't all that great unless you're flying a SR-71 at Angels 70 where it might matter.
I hated these tractors when I was at Cat field service. Nobody wanted to work on them..they were junk. Broke down all the time. Pissed off owners...us field guys always got the brunt of the owners anger....but the agco brand...omg those were worse junk.
Thanks Warren,
Worked on nitrogen accumulators on transmission valve assembly/test machines to seat the valve by sending high frequency pulses (1000 pulses/10 seconds) to ping the valve seats so they would not leak, then test the seats for leaks. After so many parts we had to manually breakdown the valve assy. and with a microscope viewer check the valve seats for concentricity. Like the valve control modules in the E4OD transmissions when I worked for Bosch as a maintenance line technician for transmission controls.
If your supply regulator has a vent a safe way to discharge pressure it back the regulator off to close like you would on gas welding and cutting bottles leave hoses and valves open to regulator, that way a line does not blow-off accidently while venting.
Santa needs to get you a couple of bottle carts/trolleys. 2500 psi missiles of stored energy.
Thank YOU @ Mongomay1 For The INFO I See A Time When Accumulators Will Be Used In renewable energy systems So many ways to apply this system as a battery so many ways.... Can't believe it hasn't been done already ...?? I Am 18 kw Solar Inverters & Wind x2 AC & DC Units 14years Running Now Take Care You & ALL The Tech's Out There Warren Is So Good Love That Tech.
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My 1987 Legend Coupe has accumulators on the front braking system tied into the ABS system back then.
I've been watching you for a short while now Warren. I know nothing about heavy equipment and diesel engines. I've been fascinated by the work you do! You really are a Bad ass mechanic! Love the video's become more and more interested with every one. Keep up the great work!
I know right
Like these old Challengers. Simpler and less headaches in some ways.
Thanks again Warren. Nothing like knowledge gained through experience.
Interesting segment. I've never monkied with nitrogen much. I've watched as the mechanics at work have added Nitrogen to the Strong arm on one of our trucks, but never knew much about the process.
Thanks for including the safety factor. When I was 11 an uncle gave me a quick, vivid safety lecture about the power of logs on a landing suddenly shifting and rolling, crushing little climbing people. The image burned itself into my psyche and helped make me safety-conscious ever since. In addition to God’s special protection, that atitude spared me from maiming and death many times.
Another good video--the Challengers are, well, challenging.
Thanks for the lesson Warren take care 👍👍👍🇬🇧
Cool never seen that before. Thanks
Very cool and I learned something new from you again.j learn something new from every video I watch of yours.keep the great videos coming.
Bet you're glad to be done with that one. Thanks for the video!!!
Thanks Warren,awesome once again.
Thanks Warren very informative article y'all stay safe out there bud
Great video per usual Warren! Thanks for sharing
A good rule of thumb is,if you can't turn the hose end on the quick coupler whether air or hydraulic DON'T unplug it.
The Tree Huggers will be onto you now for releasing nitrogen into the air !!! LMAO Well Done Warren. I used to have a 55C and 95E challengers in Australia, they were great machines
LOL The Fools Its Air Right LOL
Yeah that was interesting Warren.. I never really got to do that before and always thought they were just hydraulic. I do remember out on my uncles farm there were great cylinders like that back in the storage area but don't remember if he ever told me what they were for. Thanks again for taking me along.. This old man sure enjoys the heck outta your videos for sure.. carry on!
Thank you.
Love the warning sign, looks like a giant DNA helix will jump out and get you, like a jack in the box.
We had nitrogen primary dampers/height adjustment on tracked equipment. Lot of big torque on nuts/bolts, and big pressure in the nitrogen cylinder, never a good day replacing them.
Really enjoyed the video, I understood what you were explaining, means everyone else should to lol. Stay safe out there!!!
Nice show worth a double thumbs up, keep up the good work.
Good short video Warren. These little things. The average person (like me) has no idea. Thank You.
Great work Warren
Thank you for the videos Mr. Warren
I bet your glade that expensive job is done I can't imagine have money like that tied up in a job waiting for payment but it cool to see the older tractors still around
It's never about the money. It's about the satisfaction completing a job well done and sending off another happy customer.
If The Owner Take's Care Of IT It Will Be Running A Long Time OLD IS THE BEST & What New IS Cant fix Cant Get INFO Cant Get Parts Cant Keep Running TY
@@cluckhead1913 if not about the money but for the satisfaction then do it fir free then yeah? "Crickets chirping" Thought so!
Nice video, thank you.
Very interresting Video thank you for making them 👍🍻
Beautiful new shoes for the Cat.
Good stuff , thanks
Keep the pressure on 👍
Great video.....That guy will not have to worry about that Challenger breaking down,it was in the greatest hands.
Thanks
Warren, keep Up The good work 👍
good vid warren
Always a great video my friend stay safe and god bless
I don't believe I've ever even heard of a Nitrogen Accumulator before. All I know about Nitrogen is we use it in circle track racing to drive the Air Guns (lug wrenches) and fill the tires because it is DRY - No Moisture content. No moisture to corrode the internals of the Guns and No Moisture to Expand the tires by expanding with rising temperature.
Steve Holton , Nitrogen accumulators have been used in hydraulic systems for many years . The Unimate robots i worked on in 1975 had them to compensate for pressure surges when robot made long fast moves . Charged to 575 psi .
New camera or microphone? Sounds and looks amazing 👍
We always learn something watching you work your magic, See Ya
Good video
Good job Warren, have you gone back to now wearing gloves again ?
Talk about a small world... I paused this video to read The Armed Citizen section of my American Rifleman magazine and the first article is about a suspect that was wounded by an armed Citizen outside a convenience store in Klamath Falls Oregon back in August!
Warren
Did you make a cover for that vent ? That would bite to knock it off in field while working.
Yes I made one
It’s 3:00am in Wisconsin. Sorry I was late to class today. I’m still trying to remember how to fix the strawberry picker, UCB, Deere, tracks on an old cat in the forest, change engine in log truck to carb Regis and............... I’m passing aren’t I? Thanks Warren...
MAN BE CAREFUL. AS WE AGE WE FORGET.SLOW DOWN, DON'T BLOW YOURSELF UP!
Nice!!!!!
I’m back working on gas compressors now...
But the one thing I hated to do on ILS John deers is recharging the accumulators 😩
Yes sir hydrolic hammers on excavators take nitrogen....we had a guy that apparently could hear when a hammer was low on nitrogen...to bad he couldn't hear when they write two checks because he was wrong every time and got the ax..i dident realize how complicated the track tension system on this was..alot of engineering went into keeping these dam things tensioned
Always a fun job messing with high pressure gas installations that will kill you if you don't know what you're doing. I found those to be real attention getters when something goes wrong. Having a pneumatic gas accumulator helps to suck every bit of nitrogen out of them big tanks, though.
I might be mistaken about this but I think they could have done the track tension better assuming they have an air compressor on the engine and simply have a setup where it automatically tensions the tracks with a simple on/off switch that goes to a solenoid valve on an air tank and when the switch goes into the on state it opens the valve and then closes it when it's at the determined pressure
The little big man vs the monster
Similar nitrogen charging procedure as charging a skid steer hydraulic hammer. I usually have to add additional charge to compensate when disconnecting the hose set up.
Hello Warren 😃👍🍺🍺🔧🔧🍺🍺🔧🔧🍺🍺🔧🔧
Terex cat undercarriage on my yarder is 1800psi.
I was wondering when you would get to the nitrogen. I had to pull both my cylinders off because both of them needed to be rebuilt. They would not hold nitrogen. I had to cut every pin to remove the cylinders there was no hammering them out.
Never do this in an enclosed space lol
Is there a spring in the accumulator or is it just a nitrogen bladder which acts like a pressure spring?
There is a large spring inside that does most of tensioning. There is a bladder inside of the barrel as well that is charged. It acts as a shock absorber in the system if you will. In the tractors like an MT tractor where there is a hydraulic cylinder tensioning the track the accumulator is most important. It is why allows some flex in the system when you hit a ditch in a field it lets there be a little “give” in the system.
@@dieseldoc8694 I understand the theory of operation, I was just curious because most accumulators only have high pressure bladders to maintain a relatively constant pressure over a given pressure flux range. My sense would be that they are using a piston driven accumulator to eliminate the need for large tensioner springs altogether. Though, I'm just speculating from my Navy experience with accumulators everywhere.
I didn't know nitrogen was used on those kinds of machines.
You need a Supervisor!
HA HA JK.
I felt bad for you at first, all that work, now WTF?
Then, 60 RT get more N woulda sucked.
Leave for TG now, get out, have a happy one, eat dammit!
He Is Working To Hard To Eat
That didn't make sense. The plug you were playing with on the front of the cylinder i thought was for oil to loosen the track. There should be no gas there? The gas and spring should be on the shaft end, to tighten the track. Or am i misunderstanding.
You are. The hydraulic pressure is used to detention the track, the spring tensions the track, after you release hydraulic pressure and tighten track up the same end is charged with nitrogen as a shock absorber.
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Your shop, your channel, but I’d get a cart for that nitrogen cylinder. Bad things happen if they fall over without a weather cap on them.
Warren, if you had a tool belt that had all the tools you needed so you wouldn't have to keep getting up, it would weigh over 500 lbs. LoL Normally you at least have a screw driver in your back pocket, why not keep that 18" Crescent Wrench in there too! Then maybe a pair of plyers' too. Well here we go back to the 500 lb tool belt!
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Not a farmer or mechanic of any sorts, but that tensioner seems way overcomplicated for what it needs to do. And why the added nuisance of needing nitrogen over dry air that's 80% nitrogen anyway? Pressure change v: temperature isn't all that great unless you're flying a SR-71 at Angels 70 where it might matter.
👀🇦🇺👍 not a job for me To scary
I hated these tractors when I was at Cat field service. Nobody wanted to work on them..they were junk. Broke down all the time. Pissed off owners...us field guys always got the brunt of the owners anger....but the agco brand...omg those were worse junk.
why would any one buy an old track tractor
Why wouldn’t you there a good old machine
Because some people don’t have a million dollars to go buy new equipment. You must be 12 years old and don’t understand that things cost money
@@blake1995 it has to have wheels for this 12 year old no tracks