Poor Andy Hampsten! The guy had rode to the extreme limits, but wouldn't escape CBS'cameras and Ligget famously shakespearian cycling poetry for a few minutes!!! Thanks so much for sharing this (i taped it on beta back then!!!).
I like the quote near the end of the video "The leaders allowed Steven Rooks to break away, feeling he was not a real threat to the yellow jersey." No one allowed him to break away. They all wanted to win on the Alpe. They simply could not keep up. What an epic battle.
One of the single greatest sports commentaries ever. This should be put in gold on a record or disc. Phil was simply in the 88 tour on top of his game and no other sports commentator will ever match this drama. Liggett told a crushing story for Hampsten and an inspiring story for Delgado and rooks. The music the narration. It will never be matched in a tour. Tim Brandt was good too throughout this tour.
I've met Bauer in person, he was about 5' 8" and 170 lbs. in his racing days. Massive by pro cycling standards. His 4th place shows you what was possible before EPO and blue trains. Look at the leaders, slugging it out themselves, no 4-5 teammates driving the pace.
Not massive if your a sprinter. Cycling was tougher in the 80s everyone knows that. They didn't have dieticians and food allergy experts and all that bollocks. They were just hard as nails flat out racers. How big would Arnold Schwarzenegger be if he entered roid culture today?
@@HitchHikersBlues For 5'8 that usually means picking up quite a bit of bulk which will materially affect w/kg figures where it matters on long climbs. Taller guys who are sprinters are quite heavy but they come into the sport without having to put on too much extra bulk. In modern times this is evident with someone like Caleb Ewan who started his career as a climber and then put considerable bulk to be competitive as a sprinter.
These videos were my gospel during the college racing days! I'd love to see how many hours I rode toYanni after this broadcasted. thanks for posting......brings back the miles.
Brian Messemer I think this is more voiceover of excerpt for U.S. broadcast vs. on-air commentating... which is why Paul is absent. Weird to remember the days when you couldn’t watch 5+ hrs of 21 stages anywhere in U.S.
STEVE BAUER legend. A real rider. a rider who may not have the biggest win list but could get in there in grand tours, short stage races and classics. A joint winner of paris Roubaix as far as I'm concerned with eddy planckaert
Song: Brain Dead Weasel by John Tesh. Song is on the CD: Tour de France, The Early Years. BUT it is different than what is in this video. The song in the video he recorded in a truck in France for the TV show. When he went into the studio to record the CD, he changed the song quite a bit. I have the original, and it is the same song.
A friend of mine was wathcing a Tour climb one year. He was holding an empty can of Coke, and as the 'bus' went by, a French rider yanked the can out of his hand. A few meters up the road, realizing it was empty, he threw it at the ground with a "Merde!"
As Hampsten was getting dropped and he yelled at the fan running beside him that showed his true character what a chump I don’t know how that guy won the giro prima donna that’s why he never won the tour
Wow. I remember this from back in the day. Hampsten cracked so badly, I felt sorry fir him. And Bauer passing him must have been demoralizing fir him. But he did live to fight another day.
@bikeracerguy Right. The early Dura Ace 7400 series "brifters" (brake and shifter integrated) were very heavy and most riders used the simple downube shifter for the left side to save weight.
Hampsten's 7-11 Giro d'Italia Huffy-labeled winning frame was a Landshark, built by John Slawta. Andy Hampsten was the only American ever to win the Giro.
@bikeracerguy Actually, cycling computers came out in the mid-1970s, but they were expensive and not in wide usage. The first cycling computer had analog sweeping needle dials on it for speed and RPMs. You can see them listed in the early cycling mail order catalogs like the one from Palo Alto Cycle shop.
I think if he would of stayed with La Vie Claire he would of had a shot in 87 and 88. The structure of those teams might of pushed him to a higher level.
I'm watching the 2006 Vuelta right at the moment and Hesjedal looks fantastic. Yes, a shame about his "relegation" to Health Net. Maybe Michael Barry will finally ride the Tour with T-Mobile. Fingers crossed.
@dan32113. Yes, he did later win at the L'alpe, hence my comment he did "live to fight another day." And yes, I do remember reading when he won the Giro back in '88. He was a great rider, a clean rider, proven by the fact that he did on occasion have bad days. Thanks.
@kjaf this is a recap, i used to watch the half hour highlights on channel 4, British tv @ 6pm every night! This must be a compelation video, i"ve never seen it with the music before! Phil Liggett still does the comentary. I listened to him today on the 2011 Tour.
Rooks won this stage with epo. Just call it obvious, now it's official. The doctor of the team gave his assignments a few days ago; Rooks got corticosteroïds before, and during the stage he got three units of the same stuff. You could call it obvious, but its a shame for the few guys that drove without the stuff. More information on nos.nl , dutch news.
@bikeracerguy Sorry, but bike computers were around in the late 70's. The first ones came out around 1976 and had analog sweeping dials that measured cadence as well as speed. John Howard, while with the CRC of A Raliegh team and the Olympic cycling team trained with them. There was a Cat Eye brand cycling computer in the early 80's that was solar powered and huge in size.
Bauer gets award for most wattage dispensed on Alpe D'Huez, having to lug up what looks like 160lbs/73kg to only 2:34 down on the winner 1. Steven Rooks: 6hr 55min 44sec 2. Gert-Jan Theunisse @ 17sec 3. Pedro Delgado s.t. 4. Fabio Parra @ 23sec 5. Luis Herrera @ 1min 6sec 6. Thierry Claveyrolat @ 2min 31sec 7. Steve Bauer @ 2min 34sec 8. Eric Boyer @ 3min 8sec 9. Peter Winnen s.t. 10. Andy Hampsten @ 4min 21sec
I really like when the commentator states that the riders let Rooks go, feeling he was not a treat to the yellow jersey. Sure, none of these guys wanted to win Alpe Duez. I'm thinking exhaustion had more to do with it.
@dnm25 I've never used bar end shifters but I'd imagine they'd get in the way of your knees in a sprint. On that subject, I used to change gear with my downtube shifters using my knee when out of the saddle!
Pedro Delgado must have won the 87-88 and 89 tour,he was the best,he was a show runner and thoseof us who have known his entire career know that he never doped. Runners never had haystacks. Alle Perico!!!
@bikeracerguy yes sorry. Pantani used only left shifter (Front derailleur) on downtube ! Armstrong?? uh i do not know , i think he used normal shimano dura ace , uhm !?
Well - people think that Roche would have won multiple years if he hadn't had the persistent knee injury. The one year he was injury-free, he did the treble!!!
This is Great! Complete with 80's keyboard. Its too bad A.Hamsten did'nt have the balls in the head to match his ability.I think he could've won more, and less of a back seat guy. Look at stocky Steve Baur, he was still strong in the Mtns, that was balls.
They're visibly riding 42 teeth in this video. Look at 2:44. All the road racers I've seen from this era have had 52/42t or 53/42t. These guys had it a lot harder than today's pros. Bigger climbing gears and heavier bikes.
@nougat98 I readed he was 170 cm X 72 kg uhm, short and heavy ,but great long-distance cyclist, I love it. So I see thousands times this video and every time is amazing.
this is very hard to watch for me...when i was 15 this was going on....cycling has changed so much..i got to grow up in the golden era of the sport i think...im not going to get into moralistic stuff about now..all ill say is i miss the old days..im 34 now..1st race was in 1987
the quote near the end may not be entirely true, but it wouldve been Parra's stage win as he attacked three times towards the end but was blocked in every time, from which Rooks benefitted. Shame he won (Rooks was on EPO from 1989 onwards), and Thuenisse the next year, as we know now they both cheated throughout their careers, and denied it even longer. You just have to see how they out climbed Herrera, a rider before that year they'd be lucky to see in the mountains.
I used to have the video tape of this 1988 and watch this over and over again when young , best tour in my opinion ,, esp pedro delgado
Poor Andy Hampsten! The guy had rode to the extreme limits, but wouldn't escape CBS'cameras and Ligget famously shakespearian cycling poetry for a few minutes!!! Thanks so much for sharing this (i taped it on beta back then!!!).
He looked miserable.He did win it! Eventually.
I like the quote near the end of the video "The leaders allowed Steven Rooks to break away, feeling he was not a real threat to the yellow jersey." No one allowed him to break away. They all wanted to win on the Alpe. They simply could not keep up. What an epic battle.
Liggett is a poet and the soundtrack adds so much to the drama of the stage
One of the single greatest sports commentaries ever. This should be put in gold on a record or disc. Phil was simply in the 88 tour on top of his game and no other sports commentator will ever match this drama. Liggett told a crushing story for Hampsten and an inspiring story for Delgado and rooks. The music the narration. It will never be matched in a tour. Tim Brandt was good too throughout this tour.
I've met Bauer in person, he was about 5' 8" and 170 lbs. in his racing days. Massive by pro cycling standards. His 4th place shows you what was possible before EPO and blue trains. Look at the leaders, slugging it out themselves, no 4-5 teammates driving the pace.
Not massive if your a sprinter. Cycling was tougher in the 80s everyone knows that. They didn't have dieticians and food allergy experts and all that bollocks. They were just hard as nails flat out racers. How big would Arnold Schwarzenegger be if he entered roid culture today?
@@HitchHikersBlues For 5'8 that usually means picking up quite a bit of bulk which will materially affect w/kg figures where it matters on long climbs. Taller guys who are sprinters are quite heavy but they come into the sport without having to put on too much extra bulk. In modern times this is evident with someone like Caleb Ewan who started his career as a climber and then put considerable bulk to be competitive as a sprinter.
Bauer is so thick, it's just amazing he could get 4th in a TDF. Massive heart and huge torque.
These videos were my gospel during the college racing days! I'd love to see how many hours I rode toYanni after this broadcasted. thanks for posting......brings back the miles.
You and I both brother.
I have been watching this video for 35 years. Phil Ligget as his peak. The TdF music of John Tesh and Yanni.
This very stage is responsible for me getting into road bikes as a kid, an expensive bit of tv indeed
absolute classic
Watching because Paul Sherwen just passed, although only Phil is commentating here. RIP Paul, you great one.
Brian Messemer I think this is more voiceover of excerpt for U.S. broadcast vs. on-air commentating... which is why Paul is absent. Weird to remember the days when you couldn’t watch 5+ hrs of 21 stages anywhere in U.S.
This video is in my VHS collection as well. Not to mention the Tesh music that was sold at American races. It was cool at the time.
Steve Bauer was also awesome then fighting to hang on the yellow despite been not so good climber
A friend of mine, the Fenwick flyer😊😊😊😊
Andy Hampsten looked so damn smooth on the bike! Looks like the perfect bike fit to me!
My first Tour I watch, some of the best coverage & awesome production crew.
the soundtrack adds so much to the rhythm of the stage
The music makes this all the more better Phil Liggett is simply the best
STEVE BAUER legend. A real rider. a rider who may not have the biggest win list but could get in there in grand tours, short stage races and classics. A joint winner of paris Roubaix as far as I'm concerned with eddy planckaert
incredible such as Bauer in yellow passes Hampsten , what great rider !
These were great tours 85-89, and this music (Tesh and Downes) was great music.
My dad made a mix of the 80s TDF soundtrack back in the day. It slapped LOL
Delgadepeo and Stepeo Rooks were riding really well that year.
Quill stems, steel frames, downtube shifters, and no helmets!!!
Push up bras, edible panties, excessive tickling, and non stop giggling!!!
@@malibustacy3606 You're very focused.
Great Steven Rooks!
Song: Brain Dead Weasel by John Tesh.
Song is on the CD: Tour de France, The Early Years. BUT it is different than what is in this video. The song in the video he recorded in a truck in France for the TV show. When he went into the studio to record the CD, he changed the song quite a bit. I have the original, and it is the same song.
"Brain Dead Weasel" is actually the perfect title for this song😅
This Phil Liggett narrative coverage with the Yanni/Tesh music is so melodramatic, but so good too
@bikeracerguy
Bike computers were around in the early 80's, the first small one, the avocet 20 was around in 1985..
The team did ride Serotta frames but on mountain stages many of the 7-11 riders are on Landsharks.
Not "many" Hampsten rode a LS in his Giro win roadbikeaction.com/the-real-story-of-the-7-eleven-team-bikes/
A friend of mine was wathcing a Tour climb one year. He was holding an empty can of Coke, and as the 'bus' went by, a French rider yanked the can out of his hand. A few meters up the road, realizing it was empty, he threw it at the ground with a "Merde!"
As Hampsten was getting dropped and he yelled at the fan running beside him that showed his true character what a chump I don’t know how that guy won the giro prima donna that’s why he never won the tour
Man! That is some CHEESY music. I've still got my Delgado Reynolds shirt, I think it will smell of my cycling sweat for all eternity!
fantastic VIDEO, thank's socalrider.
I can not live without .
I promise I will buy some Video from you :):):).
Wow. I remember this from back in the day. Hampsten cracked so badly, I felt sorry fir him. And Bauer passing him must have been demoralizing fir him. But he did live to fight another day.
BRING BACK THE MUSIC!!!
makes it way more exciting.
@bikeracerguy
Right. The early Dura Ace 7400 series "brifters" (brake and shifter integrated) were very heavy and most riders used the simple downube shifter for the left side to save weight.
Great tour in 88. Delgado, Baur, Rooks and Theneisse what riders they were.
Tim Curry was an outstanding version of Pennywise.
god that music would do your head in!! thank god for uk channel 4's version - just phil liggett getting tachycardic on the action alone!! priceless!
Bauer's action make me goosebumps
Hampsten's 7-11 Giro d'Italia Huffy-labeled winning frame was a Landshark, built by John Slawta. Andy Hampsten was the only American ever to win the Giro.
Shame they don't have this music with the tour anymore.
Go Bauer!!!!!!!!!!GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! ALLLEZZZZZZZ!
Parra's stage. Not just by non-use of drugs, but because he was the strongest on the day.
Parra, Herrera, Bauer and Hampsten were probably the only clean riders among the top climbers
The best tour de france
I think that's a hairnet bauer was carrying in his back pocket
i am amazed at how the music of the CBS tours were great. It just fit with the race. Somehow, that crappy new age music fits with the Tour de France!
@bikeracerguy
Actually, cycling computers came out in the mid-1970s, but they were expensive and not in wide usage. The first cycling computer had analog sweeping needle dials on it for speed and RPMs. You can see them listed in the early cycling mail order catalogs like the one from Palo Alto Cycle shop.
more likely using
39x23 or 39x24 gearing..
Hampsten never lived up to his tour potential. He always lacked that aggresive killer instinct to just put the hammer down and go for it...
I think if he would of stayed with La Vie Claire he would of had a shot in 87 and 88. The structure of those teams might of pushed him to a higher level.
bauer pure legend
Classic!!
I'm watching the 2006 Vuelta right at the moment and Hesjedal looks fantastic. Yes, a shame about his "relegation" to Health Net. Maybe Michael Barry will finally ride the Tour with T-Mobile. Fingers crossed.
@dan32113. Yes, he did later win at the L'alpe, hence my comment he did "live to fight another day." And yes, I do remember reading when he won the Giro back in '88. He was a great rider, a clean rider, proven by the fact that he did on occasion have bad days. Thanks.
the audio is a commentary recorded after the stage finished.
@kjaf this is a recap, i used to watch the half hour highlights on channel 4, British tv @ 6pm every night! This must be a compelation video, i"ve never seen it with the music before! Phil Liggett still does the comentary. I listened to him today on the 2011 Tour.
Rooks won this stage with epo. Just call it obvious, now it's official. The doctor of the team gave his assignments a few days ago; Rooks got corticosteroïds before, and during the stage he got three units of the same stuff.
You could call it obvious, but its a shame for the few guys that drove without the stuff.
More information on nos.nl , dutch news.
there was not many information about EPO at this time and a few riders have already died from high dosages
Not EPO, steroids and a bit of talented and also training.
this is so awesome and intense.
Grande Haempsten.
Gli altri no coment.
@mikethern Yep. You can clearly see the 42 tooth chainring at 4:31.
0:44 2:23 RAUL ALCALA from Monterrey, MEXICO.
@dachicagoan
I think he did a nod to spectator to mean " ok, thank you for your support"
pantani in 1998 used still downtube shifters: I think it was the last year with those.
@socalrider909 yeah, you can see one on Andy's bike early in the vid.
@bikeracerguy Sorry, but bike computers were around in the late 70's. The first ones came out around 1976 and had analog sweeping dials that measured cadence as well as speed. John Howard, while with the CRC of A Raliegh team and the Olympic cycling team trained with them. There was a Cat Eye brand cycling computer in the early 80's that was solar powered and huge in size.
no, it's his helmet....
haha, did they really play the music in the background constantly? great video none the less.
Que gran velocidad , sobre todo en el falso llano
Bauer gets award for most wattage dispensed on Alpe D'Huez, having to lug up what looks like 160lbs/73kg to only 2:34 down on the winner
1. Steven Rooks: 6hr 55min 44sec
2. Gert-Jan Theunisse @ 17sec
3. Pedro Delgado s.t.
4. Fabio Parra @ 23sec
5. Luis Herrera @ 1min 6sec
6. Thierry Claveyrolat @ 2min 31sec
7. Steve Bauer @ 2min 34sec
8. Eric Boyer @ 3min 8sec
9. Peter Winnen s.t.
10. Andy Hampsten @ 4min 21sec
I love parra's style he rides like a mineworker. his brother ivan had a similar style too
I still believe Lemond would have won in 87 and 88 if not for his hunting accident.
I really like when the commentator states that the riders let Rooks go, feeling he was not a treat to the yellow jersey. Sure, none of these guys wanted to win Alpe Duez. I'm thinking exhaustion had more to do with it.
None of them was a threat to the yellow jersey? Remember the belief: "he who wins Alpe DHuez, doesn't win the Tour."
"And now Hampsten just hopes...that he can survive."
@dnm25 I've never used bar end shifters but I'd imagine they'd get in the way of your knees in a sprint. On that subject, I used to change gear with my downtube shifters using my knee when out of the saddle!
I remember when John slawta who made Andy's bikes almost died at the Griffith park training ride. crazy crash
the announcer is Phil Liggett. Tesh did the TDF announcing in 84 thru 1986
@mikethern - 53x39 was the standard by the mid 80's..
socalrider909 they were still using 52x 42.
even when they are on a steep slope, they continue to go fast.
Pedro Delgado must have won the 87-88 and 89 tour,he was the best,he was a show runner and thoseof us who have known his entire career know that he never doped. Runners never had haystacks.
Alle Perico!!!
@bikeracerguy yes sorry. Pantani used only left shifter (Front derailleur) on downtube !
Armstrong?? uh i do not know , i think he used normal shimano dura ace , uhm !?
definitely.
Well - people think that Roche would have won multiple years if he hadn't had the persistent knee injury. The one year he was injury-free, he did the treble!!!
Remember no Lemond in 87 and 88 or Roche probably would not have won.
No, it is an old style leather strap helmet.
This is Great! Complete with 80's keyboard. Its too bad A.Hamsten did'nt have the balls in the head to match his ability.I think he could've won more, and less of a back seat guy.
Look at stocky Steve Baur, he was still strong in the Mtns, that was balls.
They're visibly riding 42 teeth in this video. Look at 2:44. All the road racers I've seen from this era have had 52/42t or 53/42t.
These guys had it a lot harder than today's pros. Bigger climbing gears and heavier bikes.
wow, steve bauer in the chasing group in the mountain!
Helmets!? We no need no stinking helmets !
Andy also rode a Landshark.
@nougat98 I readed he was 170 cm X 72 kg uhm, short and heavy ,but great long-distance cyclist, I love it. So I see thousands times this video and every time is amazing.
@socalrider909 I'm trying to figure out why they never used bar end shifters for big road races before STI. Any ideas?
this is very hard to watch for me...when i was 15 this was going on....cycling has changed so much..i got to grow up in the golden era of the sport i think...im not going to get into moralistic stuff about now..all ill say is i miss the old days..im 34 now..1st race was in 1987
Grande Andrew Hampsten,el mejor escalador americano de la historia,un tipo elegante sobre la bicicleta y con mucha clase
Are the 7-11 riders on Huffy frames?? Thats a K Mart brand
I believe it was Ben Serotta that built seven eleven's team bikes.
Roche, Roche, Roche!!!!!
Maith an buachaill!!!!!!
1987 was your year!
epic
lol was this taped real time, or is this a recap or something. Because this is would be super funny real time, alot differant than it is now days.
Jesus! Is that a Canadian in yellow? These days I'd just to see one show up at the start. It sounds like John Tesh music in the background. Ugh.
Is that a spare tubular in Bauer's jersey pocket? @ 3:11
the quote near the end may not be entirely true, but it wouldve been Parra's stage win as he attacked three times towards the end but was blocked in every time, from which Rooks benefitted. Shame he won (Rooks was on EPO from 1989 onwards), and Thuenisse the next year, as we know now they both cheated throughout their careers, and denied it even longer. You just have to see how they out climbed Herrera, a rider before that year they'd be lucky to see in the mountains.
Rooks admitted to doping, Theunisse was a doper aswell, same as Delgado...
Not Bauer😇
@@jcsieger9648 new to this aren't you. LOL
Good Stuff, I think they were riding 42-19, big ass gears.
@MrJazzalive Hampsten won Alpe d Huez in 92, also Giro pink jersey in 88.
And the white jersey in 86
It was not a Huffy but a Serotta Frame.
@EMC2Scotia do you think truly that only rooks got EPO ? I think also others got EPO...