LeMond spent a week with me and my buds at the Encino Velodrome, learning how to sprint. His coach told him that if he wanted to succeed in Europe as a pro, he needed to master the sprint finish. He was a very fast learner. He was also keen to learn from the same guys who beat him in many criterium field sprints. That, and track sprinting, was our specialty. It seems that It was a week well spent! I think he was only 18 at the time. We were lucky to have crossed the line ahead of him a fewtimes
When he was 16 and racing the Cats Hill Criterium in Los Gatos CALIF. I watched Greg make US Men's Road Racing Champion Wayne Syetina look like he was going in reverse at the final sprint. Stetina had positioned himself perfectly on Greg's wheel coming off the last turn and he sling shotted past Greg and got about an 8 foot gap before Greg lit his Reno Rocket Sprint Motor and beat Wayne by about a demi-truck length across the finish line.
I was a spectator there in 1989 and haven't seen this video until now! My memory of it was the incredible thunder storm which almost led to the race being abandoned as it caused mud slides onto the road. Great to see it after all these years. PS Bumped into Sean Kelly and Martin Early on the way through Chambery and rode with them to the circuit.
Just gearing up for this year's Tour de France and came across this video. I am SOOOOOOO happy I found it. This has to be one of the great finishes ever. Greg was just so amazing. I hope to get a chance to meet him one day. Thanks for posting it, it made my day.
god this brings back memories..i was 16 when lemond made his comback..seeing them in this race was awesome..both of these guys at that point in thier career they had wona few tours between them and both had thier own fan base..this was a cool time in my life because i was really into the sport..I still am..but compared to today..the 80s were the golden years..i hope the day comes when we can be treated to another rider vs rider battle..i still have a system u jersey!
Amen, jp44. Lemond was one of the best ever, and without a doubt he was the best ever from the USA, by far, proven time and time again against the best in the world, and in a day when the man who won the race really was the best in the world- and not merely the best at cheating. He was the most worthy champion, and perhaps the last worthy champion. Long live the memory of his greatness, in a world and a sport in which true greatness has been lost. Thanks, Greg.
Lemond said afterward that he felt lousy all day and took the race one lap at a time. He said he didn't feel better until the last two laps. He also broke a rear spoke on the last lap, which he didn't have time to change. He loves circuit races and the harder the better. This race suited him perfectly. The amount of pure talent racing in the late 80's was incredible. Lemond, Fignon, Kelly, Rooks, Roche, Delgado, Bugno, the list goes on. Great time to be a cycling fan.
What a race! Tough conditions, attack after attack, just what great cycling should be. everyone taking a chance, launching an attack, recovering, and racing over and over! I would have given the best chance to Kelly, but LeMond really wanted that title! Again!
they used to call Lemond a wheel sucker....but to do what he did in the last 3 miles of this race (not to mention everything else he did in his career despite being shot !!) takes amazing power and durability Lemond single handedly dragged european cycling out of the dark ages both in style and the money riders were paid...without doubt one of the greatest riders ever great guy to watch well done Greg......
I was there, on the course with the American team---even in the Mavic car for a few laps...the team was dropping like flies and Hampsten was destroyed and there were still a couple laps to go...it was electric atmosphere...and at the press conference --- Greg was shocked that he won...was amazing
I remember watching this race in 1989. This truly was the greatest time for cycling. Lemond, Fignon, Bugno, Kelly, Roche, Delgato, Indurain, Rooks, Konishev, Claverolet. The list goes on and on. Lemond truly was the greatest champion. Armstrong is nothing compared to these guys. How would you like to start a stage everyday against riders like that. All were former Tour, Giro or Worlds winners. I really miss those days.
What chances Kelly must have taken (on the wet road) to bridge to the break ... Lemond was so strong ... covered all the moves and lead out the sprint ... shivers down the spine each time
What a great race! Lemond was on top of it. Attacking...dropping Fignon...chasing down all the attacks then starting and winning a sprint from about 300 out. Poor Fignon...just getting owned by Lemond again!
Whether you like Lemond or not (like Lance, people seem to either love him or hate him), you have to admit that Lemond opened a can of "whoop-ass" in this race, after beating Fignon earlier that year in the greatest Tour de France finish ever. This was the best World Championship ever!
Like Dan Robinson - I was also a spectator of this great race as I had gone to live in Chambery 6 months earlier and have never seen the video before! As Dan says, the weather that Sunday started off very cloudy and soon disintegrated into an absolutely torrential thunderstorm - unlike the previous day (Saturday) when the Junior's race was run off in a virtual heat-wave! (all of the British riders abandoned due to the heat!) I also rode the course and the video simply doesn't do justice to just how hard and technically demanding it was - 21 laps of an extremely testing Chambery course, complete with leg-sapping climbs and perilous descents. In fact, I clearly remember riders falling like nine-pins as the conditions worsened - including many of the main contenders. (there was a story going round after the race that Lemond himself had come off and rode the last 2 laps with a buckled front wheel to win!) An even more memorable event for me was whilst riding the circuit a few days before the 'Elite' men's race - the then pre-eminent PDM squadra came cruising past including the likes of Kelly, Alcala, Breukink, Theunisse, Rooks and Early. (although they were all different nationalities they rode the course as a team). But for me and apart from Lemond's gritty performance - the stand-out ride was from the relatively unknown (at that time) and under-rated Russian, Dimitri Koneyshev. His ride was simply staggering and I think whole crowd were willing him to win. Sadly he didn't - but for many he was the real star that day!
TheSoulTwins l'm sorry Sean Kelly was the real hero of the day... He had to chase for miles to catch the lemon group and that was all down hill on a break neck descent
This is what it's about rain soaked roads flying down the mountain no fear my kind of cycling. I do some crazy cycling on open roads with heavy traffic and you have to impose a no fear attitude or you will crash surely.
Wow thank you for all the old World Championships videos! I have never seen any of them and very excited to see them posted so I know what happened. Thanks for keeping some of the memorable cycling history alive!
thisisobvious yeah this was '89. he was already a commentator during the 70s. Not sure if he was already during late 60s.. this man is the voice of pro cycling.
Phil and Paul continue to be top shelf with commentary. Unlike the American dude here, they actually know how to pronounce names, places and events in Europe. Cripes, his name is "Clavey-rollah"! And the know-nothing American has to dominate the final sprint commentary. Putz.
power, just pure power... thanks for posting, i guess i don't have to export my copy from my betamax anymore, i'll just save this one and watch it over and over again!
Great race, I was there at the time. I also met Greg Lemond on training the days before. This climb was really steep, something you don't notice on the images.
Lemond is a totally class act, well done to him, I recommend future riders take a leave out of his book as regards his integrity for the great sport of cycling.
armsttrong rode all year long just to win the tour he put all year into that race and he was able to compete in other races as well but he only put stock in the tour.
Why do most people never mention Greg LeMonds FIRST World Championship Gold Medal? Venezuela, Junior Road Race. He was the main animator(Again!), and won a gold, silver, and bronze medal in that championship. He was beaten to the line by a top-tier Belgian road racer, Kenny Demartlier. But, he was disqualified for dangerous riding, after hooking GL off the course. Even if he had gotten the silver, he still did fantastic.
cycling is all about physical mastery so even though one may race well its all about remaining in the best physical shape you can be he was a great champion but all im saying is i am dissapointed as for merckx he is pretty old so getting beefy didnt really matter now that he has it off is another testament of his greatness.
@numero96 Kelly didn't F. up, imho he did as well as he possibly could have, for two reasons: (1) he was 33, a good 3 years past his prime. The sprinting kick had faded, he was no longer winning 20+ races per season. (2) Lemond was in awesome form. He beat Kelly in the sprint for 3rd place for the GP Montreal (remember that, a great hilly race) just before this race, which gave him confidence. At this particular point in time Greg LeMond was operating on another level of awesomeness.
this was a fantastic world champs and tour de france,lemond could have won many more races if it had not been for his shooting [ hunting ]accident, remember he was left with lead pellets close to his heart!by 1989 he was being poisoned by the lead getting into his bleed stream ! LOOK at him in the 1986 tour when he was at his best, awesome !but to win the 89 tour and world champs was an amazing comeback and showed true guts and determination.and i feel he is a guy who never used drugs.
To those who say Lemond doped...please explain how he went to Europe in 1978...as a freaking 17 year old with $75 in his pocket...and won nearly every race he entered. Again...17 years old...he had been cycling less than THREE years. After that trip...Lemond realized he could ride with the best in the world. You really think a 17 year old from Washoe County NV...in 1978 was doping? Please. Who even know about that stuff in 1979? That is idiotic. The motor was always there with Lemond. He was always that special of a talent. After that trip...Lemond wrote down 4 goals in a notepad that his dad, Bob, still has to this day: 1. Win 1979 Wrld Jr Champ Road Race 2. Win 1980 Olympic Road Race 3. Win Pro World Champ RR by 22 4. By age 25, with the TDF. The only goal he did not meet was the 1980 Olympics, due to the Boycott...
Don't even respond to the Lance apologists. It is not worth your time. It is my guy doped so your guy had to also. Lemond was a freak of nature - 2nd highest recorded vo2 max of any athlete in the world at that time.
+Thomas Williams you honestly don't think the older riders on those French Teams couldn't have introduced him to doping? I doubt it was as sophisticated as Lance's era, but they all were doing stuff back then too...
I know I made use of certain substances that boosted my performance. And like you said, it was back in the 70's and 80's. I even beat LeMond a time or two.
Lemond was a true class act, I was lucky enough to see a lot of his exploits first time round, is a shame some people have to be 100% down on everybody. Maybe he would have won 5 tours if it hadn't been for the shooting accident.
Lemond could have had a great 5 year stretch of major wins if he didn't get shot! That was a great win though. He rode for a smaller Belgian team that year and still kicked ass! On Bottecchia bicycles no less!
For the record, Lemond won the Super Prestige Pernod trophy in 1983, ahead of Kelly. Therefore it isn't fair to say Lemond didn't ride all year, at least not in all cases. In 90 and 91 I think it's fair to say Lemond focused very hard on the Tour, but did help Duclos-Lassale win Paris-Roubaix in 92. Kelly was really Lemond's bete noire in one day races, which made it all the more satisfying the Lemond finally got the better of him at the 89 Worlds. Kelly was undergeared as the wind had shifted.
Notice the big gear that Fignon's whacking. All that "spinning for winning" stuff. Power is rpm times torque. If you don't generate significant torque you'll use all your oxygen in the very act of spinning the pedals. You need to generate power at the back wheel. The "engine", therefore, can't be screaming its guts out in first.
ya fignon was a really good rider i think people didnt like him as much because he didn't look very nice you know and lemond looked like this nice kid who could be a friend to every body but Fignon was still a very good rider.
Kelly must've steamed down that descent to catch the leaders who wern't exactly hanging around at 87kph ether! Great race, but I always felt sorry for Fignon. Why he did that last half-hearted attack just before the line is beyond me. Easy looking back to say all this though I guess?
he did he rode all of those but he never went for the win he once got 4th in the vuelta but he concentrated on france that was the greatest race so thats the only thing he wanted.
@jackmeadow1 Interesting. I've read LeMond say that he started the spring early because he thought that, if Kelly started sprinting before him, he'd never catch him.
@colmmagoo Good points. Greg's sprinting was under-estimated. If the race was tough enough to get the field down, he was very hard to beat in a sprint.
@oceanplanet602 Kelly wasn"t just a sprinter! he was world number 1, for 6yrs running. 3rd in the all time list classics winner. Paris- nice 7yrs running, Vuelta 88, go on wiki & look at his palmares. Sean Kelly is an all time great & Legend..
Ahh the days when doping wasnt as wide spread/easy to do. All the guys tried to push the envelop but in the early 90s it all changed. Lance was the best at the Tour de France but thats it. NOT the greatest cyclist but a really really good one.
@kvmusic Boyer was never going to win that race. Boyer was a good rider but that finishing climb was for a world class rider like Lemond or Saronni, one way or another Boyer would have lost. Can't fault the better rider (lemond) for not letting Saronni have it on a silver platter.
What a race. Def one of the all time greats. The difference between Kelly and Roache was the nouse that Roche possed otherwise this should have been Kelly's finest hour. Can anyone tell me the name of the climb outside Chambery? I'm there next summer and want to dream...
I'm not confused about the timeline, lol. When the ETs dropped dramatically Lemond was no longer competitive. And it still stands to reason that if he used amphetamines he would've used the much more effective blood/oxygen booster when it became necessary. I will have to concede to your basic point though: You can't be certain of anything unless they are busted.
TC2drumlist's comments from a year ago are nonsense. Lemond joined PDM in Feb 1988. He rode with PDM for only one season. On of the reasons he left, was that he and Kathy became aware that the team was pushing riders to dope. Kathy became friends with AnnaLisa, Johannes Draaijer's wife. She was American and like spending time around others from the States. Mid way through 1988...Annalisa told Kathy that they had figured out why Johhanes was struggling. "His testosterone is low..." she was told by the PDM docs and trainers. Greg and Kathy cautioned Johhanes and Kathy that such tactics were how the teams got you started doping. Greg left PDM at the end of the season in no small part because he did not like the team pressuring riders to "get with the program" A full year later (Feb 1990....after Greg had spend a full year riding for ADR...winning the 89 tour), Annalisa called Kathy hysterical, in the middle of the night. Johhanes was dead in bed next to her...due to an EPO oversode. Johhanes was one of the early casualties. As one of the early users of EPO...he fell victim to the ignorance of the docs and trainers in what dosage was safe. The autopsy never concluded why he died, and the team covered it up. If anything the events are evidence that Greg was opposed to doping the whole time. Listen to the interview where Kathy talks about the events surrounding Johannes and Annalisa.
It's simply desperate mud-slinging meow for anyone to suggest LeMond was anything other than strongly opposed to doping through his entire career-meow! Even Eddie B. would never have doped Greg, b/c it was apparent that he was simply a rough, unpolished diamond (but still a diamond) from age 16 on! Too bad-meow that EPO robbed him of the huge enormous advantage he possessed over less-talented riders. And that's the truth!
Thomas - please read my comment regarding the 1989 WC race. I totally agree with your post and that Lemond was one of the few 'clean' and honorable riders of his era. (I am British but have nothing except respect and admiration for Greg who fought almost insurmountable odds to become one the greatest riders ever!) I was there in Chambery in 1989 and can tell you that without doubt the reason Lemond won was due to two main factors - incredible natural ability on a bike, and secondly his unshakeable desire to win. (he simply wanted it more than anyone else!) Whilst I also greatly admired his main protagonists that day (Fignon was always one of my favorites, Kelly's unflappable demeanor and awesome power amazed and Gerd Jan Theunisse's silky riding style was a joy to behold!) it is now patently obvious and well-documented that the 'all-conquering' PDM squad were heavily into doping. That Lemond refused to go along with this is testament to the man's integrity. Having said that, Lemond didn't technically leave PDM - they cancelled his contract (following his shooting accident in 1987) as they doubted he would be a 'force' in pro-cycling ever again. But as they say - "he had the last laugh" winning the TDF in 1989 with what was (ADR) a minor team!
death2pc what race are you watching. Lemond countered the attack of Fignon. Bridges up solo. Then as Fignon broke right Lemond led the sprint on the left and because all Kelly saw was wheel spray from Greg’s wheel ahead of him.
If guys like Lemond & Hampsten were going to dope at all then they would have done it at the onset of the EPO era when dopers were kicking their butts. And I knew basically what LA was up to about 10 years ago. Cycling on the lower 40 doesn't make a climber. No judgement here. I'd have probably done the same if I had the motor.
oldtwins more like Kristoff or Sagan? he don't sprint for every flat stage in Tour like Kittel, Cavendish, etc. but during classics in his early career, Lemond would always take the sprint even it's for 2nd place or 4th place. except that he can't sprint pass Kelly until this 89 World Championships.
L.A told me they did blow together and molested cats at their yoga retreat in 1991. Lemond used EPO before anyone else, got sick of being better than everyone and gave it up for bubble bath instead, much more effective PED
You're starting from the certainty that he was clean then fitting the facts around it, which is exactly what Lance's remaining supporters still do. "if he'd used X then he would have used Y" is an argument without any basis (other than that you'd like it to be true). If you haven't already, read Paul Kimmage's "Rough Ride". He talks about his eventual doping, and Fignon admitted using stimulants and painkillers. Both said they didn't use EPO though, so where does that leave your theory?
You said it in the first par. Lemond was the better tour racer. But with w World's not sure you can call Kelly even a better classics rider. And their impact on the sport? Not close. LeMond all the way. And remember LeMond really had two careers, first exclusively as a support rider for Fignon and Hinault, and then when he became a tour rider is when he stopped riding all season.
The part that doesn't fit the profile for me is the anti-doping zealotry. Most of the people defending/excusing LA's doping are dopers in cycling or in my boxing furum, lol. And it's probably much more possible for a great motor to have beaten dopers in the pre-EPO era. You talked me into ordering Kimmage's book though. Sounds interesting. Amazon talked me into 2 more.
So in May '89 Lemond was being dropped by domestiques on the climbs of the Giro. A few weeks later he's dropping everyone on TdF climbs. Then at the Worlds he leads out known dopers like Kelly, Fignon and Clavyrolat and just pedals away from them. Surely if there's one thing LA has taught us, it's that "never failed a test" and talking a good game about doping means nothing. You can never say a rider was clean, just that they were never caught. Lemond was one of the greats. Leave it at that.
I think you must be confused. Greg's PDM team-mate Johannes Draaijer died from EPO use in 1988. "At the onset of the EPO era" Greg Lemond was kicking everyone's butts, including all the riders who've admitted they were doping. You're also mixing up "clean" with "not using EPO". I wouldn't describe riders taking cocktails of steroids, stimulants and painkillers as "clean", and Greg dominated that era when that was what you did. Greg never failed a test, and that's the most you can honestly say.
Even Lance Armstrong used down tube shifters. They are useful in the mountain stages for climbing and downhill as they are lighter and also no need for indexing so less technical issues.
The race where Sean Kelly should have become world champion. He had owned Lemond in the sprint for the '86 Milan-San Remo, but for a bad gear choice made the previous day for the race (as he admitted in many interviews later), he would have done the same. Lemond was destined to win that race it seems.
all the sports winners are drugged, the difference between the pros in any sport and iemensly talented people who also train hard is just too big a top 40k tt average speed for a superb rider is 40kph for the pros 52 or 53 kph, if you on epo it is just so much easier to ride those wattages, no matter how big the clean guys engine is.
LeMond spent a week with me and my buds at the Encino Velodrome, learning how to sprint. His coach told him that if he wanted to succeed in Europe as a pro, he needed to master the sprint finish. He was a very fast learner. He was also keen to learn from the same guys who beat him in many criterium field sprints. That, and track sprinting, was our specialty. It seems that It was a week well spent! I think he was only 18 at the time. We were lucky to have crossed the line ahead of him a fewtimes
When he was 16 and racing the Cats Hill Criterium in Los Gatos CALIF. I watched Greg make US Men's Road Racing Champion Wayne Syetina look like he was going in reverse at the final sprint. Stetina had positioned himself perfectly on Greg's wheel coming off the last turn and he sling shotted past Greg and got about an 8 foot gap before Greg lit his Reno Rocket Sprint Motor and beat Wayne by about a demi-truck length across the finish line.
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Way cooi.
And to think I smoked him everytime it was a sprint.
I was a spectator there in 1989 and haven't seen this video until now! My memory of it was the incredible thunder storm which almost led to the race being abandoned as it caused mud slides onto the road. Great to see it after all these years. PS Bumped into Sean Kelly and Martin Early on the way through Chambery and rode with them to the circuit.
Just gearing up for this year's Tour de France and came across this video. I am SOOOOOOO happy I found it. This has to be one of the great finishes ever. Greg was just so amazing. I hope to get a chance to meet him one day.
Thanks for posting it, it made my day.
This race and sprint will never get old. What a finish by Lemond.
3 Tour wins & 2 podiums, 2 golds & 2 silvers in the Worlds, GL knew how to race the big ones.
Knowing the outcome in advance doesn't make this any less tense or exciting. What an amazing race. Great footage too.
god this brings back memories..i was 16 when lemond made his comback..seeing them in this race was awesome..both of these guys at that point in thier career they had wona few tours between them and both had thier own fan base..this was a cool time in my life because i was really into the sport..I still am..but compared to today..the 80s were the golden years..i hope the day comes when we can be treated to another rider vs rider battle..i still have a system u jersey!
Amen, jp44.
Lemond was one of the best ever, and without a doubt he was the best ever from the USA, by far, proven time and time again against the best in the world, and in a day when the man who won the race really was the best in the world- and not merely the best at cheating.
He was the most worthy champion, and perhaps the last worthy champion.
Long live the memory of his greatness, in a world and a sport in which true greatness has been lost.
Thanks, Greg.
WHAO. what a race. all the cycling greats together.
Lemond said afterward that he felt lousy all day and took the race one lap at a time. He said he didn't feel better until the last two laps. He also broke a rear spoke on the last lap, which he didn't have time to change. He loves circuit races and the harder the better. This race suited him perfectly. The amount of pure talent racing in the late 80's was incredible. Lemond, Fignon, Kelly, Rooks, Roche, Delgado, Bugno, the list goes on. Great time to be a cycling fan.
Well produced television - and it's back in 1989.
What a race! Tough conditions, attack after attack, just what great cycling should be. everyone taking a chance, launching an attack, recovering, and racing over and over! I would have given the best chance to Kelly, but LeMond really wanted that title! Again!
they used to call Lemond a wheel sucker....but to do what he did in the last 3 miles of this race (not to mention everything else he did in his career despite being shot !!) takes amazing power and durability Lemond single handedly dragged european cycling out of the dark ages both in style and the money riders were paid...without doubt one of the greatest riders ever great guy to watch well done Greg......
I was there, on the course with the American team---even in the Mavic car for a few laps...the team was dropping like flies and Hampsten was destroyed and there were still a couple laps to go...it was electric atmosphere...and at the press conference --- Greg was shocked that he won...was amazing
I remember watching this race in 1989. This truly was the greatest time for cycling. Lemond, Fignon, Bugno, Kelly, Roche, Delgato, Indurain, Rooks, Konishev, Claverolet. The list goes on and on. Lemond truly was the greatest champion. Armstrong is nothing compared to these guys. How would you like to start a stage everyday against riders like that. All were former Tour, Giro or Worlds winners. I really miss those days.
What chances Kelly must have taken (on the wet road) to bridge to the break ... Lemond was so strong ... covered all the moves and lead out the sprint ... shivers down the spine each time
What a great race! Lemond was on top of it. Attacking...dropping Fignon...chasing down all the attacks then starting and winning a sprint from about 300 out. Poor Fignon...just getting owned by Lemond again!
Whether you like Lemond or not (like Lance, people seem to either love him or hate him), you have to admit that Lemond opened a can of "whoop-ass" in this race, after beating Fignon earlier that year in the greatest Tour de France finish ever. This was the best World Championship ever!
Like Dan Robinson - I was also a spectator of this great race as I had gone to live in Chambery 6 months earlier and have never seen the video before! As Dan says, the weather that Sunday started off very cloudy and soon disintegrated into an absolutely torrential thunderstorm - unlike the previous day (Saturday) when the Junior's race was run off in a virtual heat-wave! (all of the British riders abandoned due to the heat!) I also rode the course and the video simply doesn't do justice to just how hard and technically demanding it was - 21 laps of an extremely testing Chambery course, complete with leg-sapping climbs and perilous descents. In fact, I clearly remember riders falling like nine-pins as the conditions worsened - including many of the main contenders. (there was a story going round after the race that Lemond himself had come off and rode the last 2 laps with a buckled front wheel to win!) An even more memorable event for me was whilst riding the circuit a few days before the 'Elite' men's race - the then pre-eminent PDM squadra came cruising past including the likes of Kelly, Alcala, Breukink, Theunisse, Rooks and Early. (although they were all different nationalities they rode the course as a team). But for me and apart from Lemond's gritty performance - the stand-out ride was from the relatively unknown (at that time) and under-rated Russian, Dimitri Koneyshev. His ride was simply staggering and I think whole crowd were willing him to win. Sadly he didn't - but for many he was the real star that day!
TheSoulTwins l'm sorry Sean Kelly was the real hero of the day... He had to chase for miles to catch the lemon group and that was all down hill on a break neck descent
@@BuffaloBuffalo-uc6zp With no video showing his effort!
This is what it's about rain soaked roads flying down the mountain no fear my kind of cycling. I do some crazy cycling on open roads with heavy traffic and you have to impose a no fear attitude or you will crash surely.
That has to be some of the greatest riding I have ever seen. Just amazing.
Wow thank you for all the old World Championships videos! I have never seen any of them and very excited to see them posted so I know what happened. Thanks for keeping some of the memorable cycling history alive!
I can't believe Phil was a commentator way back then, and he still sounds and talks exactly the same.
thisisobvious yeah this was '89. he was already a commentator during the 70s. Not sure if he was already during late 60s.. this man is the voice of pro cycling.
Phil and Paul continue to be top shelf with commentary. Unlike the American dude here, they actually know how to pronounce names, places and events in Europe. Cripes, his name is "Clavey-rollah"! And the know-nothing American has to dominate the final sprint commentary. Putz.
This still gives me chills like when I watched it on TV. How about when Sean Kelly comes out of nowhere at about 2k!!
power, just pure power... thanks for posting, i guess i don't have to export my copy from my betamax anymore, i'll just save this one and watch it over and over again!
Great race, I was there at the time. I also met Greg Lemond on training the days before. This climb was really steep, something you don't notice on the images.
Another bronze for Sean KELLY 🇨🇮, this is as close to gold as he got, well able he was on a wet day like this 🍀.
one of the first EPO perfomances
Love it!a remember seeing this on tv one of my favourite finishes ever.
Lemond is a totally class act, well done to him, I recommend future riders take a leave out of his book as regards his integrity for the great sport of cycling.
Lemond is the Greatest ever!!
this is still the greatest finish I have ever seen....
this made me go out and train my 5 hr in the rain. Great finish and thanks for posting.
Greg rules!!!!!
armsttrong rode all year long just to win the tour he put all year into that race and he was able to compete in other races as well but he only put stock in the tour.
The Great Greg LeMond could do it all. He is a true inspiration & American hero.
Ahmed Ahmed &, what perfect nation do you come from?
Why do most people never mention Greg LeMonds FIRST World Championship Gold Medal? Venezuela, Junior Road Race. He was the main animator(Again!), and won a gold, silver, and bronze medal in that championship. He was beaten to the line by a top-tier Belgian road racer, Kenny Demartlier. But, he was disqualified for dangerous riding, after hooking GL off the course. Even if he had gotten the silver, he still did fantastic.
cycling is all about physical mastery so even though one may race well its all about remaining in the best physical shape you can be he was a great champion but all im saying is i am dissapointed as for merckx he is pretty old so getting beefy didnt really matter now that he has it off is another testament of his greatness.
exciting - great video! Worth watching all the way through for sure! Go Greg!
@numero96 Kelly didn't F. up, imho he did as well as he possibly could have, for two reasons:
(1) he was 33, a good 3 years past his prime. The sprinting kick had faded, he was
no longer winning 20+ races per season.
(2) Lemond was in awesome form. He beat Kelly in the sprint for 3rd place for the GP Montreal (remember that, a great hilly race) just before this race, which gave him confidence. At this particular point in time Greg LeMond was operating on another level of awesomeness.
this was a fantastic world champs and tour de france,lemond could have won many more races if it had not been for his shooting [ hunting ]accident, remember he was left with lead pellets close to his heart!by 1989 he was being poisoned by the lead getting into his bleed stream ! LOOK at him in the 1986 tour when he was at his best, awesome !but to win the 89 tour and world champs was an amazing comeback and showed true guts and determination.and i feel he is a guy who never used drugs.
Greg Lemont, an American hero.
Go Lemond ! You the man and you rode clean !
Would be nice if someone posted Greg's 83 win.
To those who say Lemond doped...please explain how he went to Europe in 1978...as a freaking 17 year old with $75 in his pocket...and won nearly every race he entered. Again...17 years old...he had been cycling less than THREE years.
After that trip...Lemond realized he could ride with the best in the world. You really think a 17 year old from Washoe County NV...in 1978 was doping? Please. Who even know about that stuff in 1979? That is idiotic. The motor was always there with Lemond. He was always that special of a talent.
After that trip...Lemond wrote down 4 goals in a notepad that his dad, Bob, still has to this day: 1. Win 1979 Wrld Jr Champ Road Race 2. Win 1980 Olympic Road Race 3. Win Pro World Champ RR by 22 4. By age 25, with the TDF. The only goal he did not meet was the 1980 Olympics, due to the Boycott...
Don't even respond to the Lance apologists. It is not worth your time. It is my guy doped so your guy had to also.
Lemond was a freak of nature - 2nd highest recorded vo2 max of any athlete in the world at that time.
+Thomas Williams you honestly don't think the older riders on those French Teams couldn't have introduced him to doping? I doubt it was as sophisticated as Lance's era, but they all were doing stuff back then too...
I know I made use of certain substances that boosted my performance. And like you said, it was back in the 70's and 80's. I even beat LeMond a time or two.
Lemond was a true class act, I was lucky enough to see a lot of his exploits first time round, is a shame some people have to be 100% down on everybody. Maybe he would have won 5 tours if it hadn't been for the shooting accident.
2nd highest VO2 max ...flip he is a freaky ..who is first ?
Lemond could have had a great 5 year stretch of major wins if he didn't get shot! That was a great win though. He rode for a smaller Belgian team that year and still kicked ass! On Bottecchia bicycles no less!
For the record, Lemond won the Super Prestige Pernod trophy in 1983, ahead of Kelly. Therefore it isn't fair to say Lemond didn't ride all year, at least not in all cases. In 90 and 91 I think it's fair to say Lemond focused very hard on the Tour, but did help Duclos-Lassale win Paris-Roubaix in 92. Kelly was really Lemond's bete noire in one day races, which made it all the more satisfying the Lemond finally got the better of him at the 89 Worlds. Kelly was undergeared as the wind had shifted.
Notice the big gear that Fignon's whacking. All that "spinning for winning" stuff. Power is rpm times torque. If you don't generate significant torque you'll use all your oxygen in the very act of spinning the pedals. You need to generate power at the back wheel. The "engine", therefore, can't be screaming its guts out in first.
ya fignon was a really good rider i think people didnt like him as much because he didn't look very nice you know and lemond looked like this nice kid who could be a friend to every body but Fignon was still a very good rider.
RIP Fignon, courage until the end!
Kelly must've steamed down that descent to catch the leaders who wern't exactly hanging around at 87kph ether! Great race, but I always felt sorry for Fignon. Why he did that last half-hearted attack just before the line is beyond me. Easy looking back to say all this though I guess?
he did he rode all of those but he never went for the win he once got 4th in the vuelta but he concentrated on france that was the greatest race so thats the only thing he wanted.
unbelievable, 90 kph in the wet!
@jackmeadow1 Interesting. I've read LeMond say that he started the spring early because he thought that, if Kelly started sprinting before him, he'd never catch him.
Nice footage.
@colmmagoo Good points. Greg's sprinting was under-estimated. If the race was tough enough to get the field down, he was very hard to beat in a sprint.
Well he DID win the Giro that year!
And watch Sean Kelly come out of nowhere....CLASSIC!!!!
@oceanplanet602 Kelly wasn"t just a sprinter! he was world number 1, for 6yrs running. 3rd in the all time list classics winner. Paris- nice 7yrs running, Vuelta 88, go on wiki & look at his palmares. Sean Kelly is an all time great & Legend..
Jesus fucking Christ...90ks on wet roads...ballsy mother fuckers. I miss these days of racing so much.
idol! lemond rules. lemond kicks armstrong's ass.
lance was exciting to watch but was a one race a year man after his come back, even indurain won a giro tour double
rest in peace Fignon
Ahh the days when doping wasnt as wide spread/easy to do. All the guys tried to push the envelop but in the early 90s it all changed.
Lance was the best at the Tour de France but thats it. NOT the greatest cyclist but a really really good one.
@kvmusic Boyer was never going to win that race. Boyer was a good rider but that finishing climb was for a world class rider like Lemond or Saronni, one way or another Boyer would have lost. Can't fault the better rider (lemond) for not letting Saronni have it on a silver platter.
What a race. Def one of the all time greats. The difference between Kelly and Roache was the nouse that Roche possed otherwise this should have been Kelly's finest hour. Can anyone tell me the name of the climb outside Chambery? I'm there next summer and want to dream...
This win was special cos LeMond out sprinted Kelly, who was a sprinter Ace, while LeMond was never good at sprinting.
I'm not confused about the timeline, lol. When the ETs dropped dramatically Lemond was no longer competitive. And it still stands to reason that if he used amphetamines he would've used the much more effective blood/oxygen booster when it became necessary. I will have to concede to your basic point though: You can't be certain of anything unless they are busted.
RIP fignon!
TC2drumlist's comments from a year ago are nonsense. Lemond joined PDM in Feb 1988. He rode with PDM for only one season. On of the reasons he left, was that he and Kathy became aware that the team was pushing riders to dope. Kathy became friends with AnnaLisa, Johannes Draaijer's wife. She was American and like spending time around others from the States.
Mid way through 1988...Annalisa told Kathy that they had figured out why Johhanes was struggling. "His testosterone is low..." she was told by the PDM docs and trainers. Greg and Kathy cautioned Johhanes and Kathy that such tactics were how the teams got you started doping. Greg left PDM at the end of the season in no small part because he did not like the team pressuring riders to "get with the program" A full year later (Feb 1990....after Greg had spend a full year riding for ADR...winning the 89 tour), Annalisa called Kathy hysterical, in the middle of the night. Johhanes was dead in bed next to her...due to an EPO oversode. Johhanes was one of the early casualties. As one of the early users of EPO...he fell victim to the ignorance of the docs and trainers in what dosage was safe.
The autopsy never concluded why he died, and the team covered it up. If anything the events are evidence that Greg was opposed to doping the whole time. Listen to the interview where Kathy talks about the events surrounding Johannes and Annalisa.
It's simply desperate mud-slinging meow for anyone to suggest LeMond was anything other than strongly opposed to doping through his entire career-meow! Even Eddie B. would never have doped Greg, b/c it was apparent that he was simply a rough, unpolished diamond (but still a diamond) from age 16 on!
Too bad-meow that EPO robbed him of the huge enormous advantage he possessed over less-talented riders. And that's the truth!
Thomas - please read my comment regarding the 1989 WC race. I totally agree with your post and that Lemond was one of the few 'clean' and honorable riders of his era. (I am British but have nothing except respect and admiration for Greg who fought almost insurmountable odds to become one the greatest riders ever!) I was there in Chambery in 1989 and can tell you that without doubt the reason Lemond won was due to two main factors - incredible natural ability on a bike, and secondly his unshakeable desire to win. (he simply wanted it more than anyone else!) Whilst I also greatly admired his main protagonists that day (Fignon was always one of my favorites, Kelly's unflappable demeanor and awesome power amazed and Gerd Jan Theunisse's silky riding style was a joy to behold!) it is now patently obvious and well-documented that the 'all-conquering' PDM squad were heavily into doping. That Lemond refused to go along with this is testament to the man's integrity. Having said that, Lemond didn't technically leave PDM - they cancelled his contract (following his shooting accident in 1987) as they doubted he would be a 'force' in pro-cycling ever again. But as they say - "he had the last laugh" winning the TDF in 1989 with what was (ADR) a minor team!
Another example of Lemond - in Kelly's opinion - sitting on Kelly's wheel the whole race and only winning because he sat on Kelly's wheel.
death2pc what race are you watching. Lemond countered the attack of Fignon. Bridges up solo. Then as Fignon broke right Lemond led the sprint on the left and because all Kelly saw was wheel spray from Greg’s wheel ahead of him.
If guys like Lemond & Hampsten were going to dope at all then they would have done it at the onset of the EPO era when dopers were kicking their butts. And I knew basically what LA was up to about 10 years ago. Cycling on the lower 40 doesn't make a climber. No judgement here. I'd have probably done the same if I had the motor.
no matter what gear kelly was in it wouldn't have changed the result.
hugh finnerty true! Kelly didn't have the legs to sprint pass Lemond because of the chasing he did with last 2km to go.
Classic
Is that Brian Dribble...doing the announcing w/ Phil baby ????/
John Tesh.
sylvain georges just called. he wants your attention back.
Where would Greg's sprinting ability be classified today at ? Gilbert's level ? Sagan ?
oldtwins more like Kristoff or Sagan? he don't sprint for every flat stage in Tour like Kittel, Cavendish, etc. but during classics in his early career, Lemond would always take the sprint even it's for 2nd place or 4th place. except that he can't sprint pass Kelly until this 89 World Championships.
Why is it in my recommended
Lemond is on the juice. Lance told me so.
L.A told me they did blow together and molested cats at their yoga retreat in 1991. Lemond used EPO before anyone else, got sick of being better than everyone and gave it up for bubble bath instead, much more effective PED
You're starting from the certainty that he was clean then fitting the facts around it, which is exactly what Lance's remaining supporters still do. "if he'd used X then he would have used Y" is an argument without any basis (other than that you'd like it to be true). If you haven't already, read Paul Kimmage's "Rough Ride". He talks about his eventual doping, and Fignon admitted using stimulants and painkillers. Both said they didn't use EPO though, so where does that leave your theory?
You said it in the first par. Lemond was the better tour racer. But with w World's not sure you can call Kelly even a better classics rider. And their impact on the sport? Not close. LeMond all the way. And remember LeMond really had two careers, first exclusively as a support rider for Fignon and Hinault, and then when he became a tour rider is when he stopped riding all season.
What's the gradient ?
The part that doesn't fit the profile for me is the anti-doping zealotry. Most of the people defending/excusing LA's doping are dopers in cycling or in my boxing furum, lol. And it's probably much more possible for a great motor to have beaten dopers in the pre-EPO era. You talked me into ordering Kimmage's book though. Sounds interesting. Amazon talked me into 2 more.
So in May '89 Lemond was being dropped by domestiques on the climbs of the Giro. A few weeks later he's dropping everyone on TdF climbs. Then at the Worlds he leads out known dopers like Kelly, Fignon and Clavyrolat and just pedals away from them.
Surely if there's one thing LA has taught us, it's that "never failed a test" and talking a good game about doping means nothing. You can never say a rider was clean, just that they were never caught. Lemond was one of the greats. Leave it at that.
Kewlios
I think you must be confused. Greg's PDM team-mate Johannes Draaijer died from EPO use in 1988. "At the onset of the EPO era" Greg Lemond was kicking everyone's butts, including all the riders who've admitted they were doping. You're also mixing up "clean" with "not using EPO". I wouldn't describe riders taking cocktails of steroids, stimulants and painkillers as "clean", and Greg dominated that era when that was what you did.
Greg never failed a test, and that's the most you can honestly say.
I still prefer downtube shifters just like this video.
Even Lance Armstrong used down tube shifters. They are useful in the mountain stages for climbing and downhill as they are lighter and also no need for indexing so less technical issues.
what about ullrich and pantani they were bad there were alot of great cyclists but no matter we are watching lemond lets talk about lemond.
NOoooo bauer!
thanks for the fast forward hahahaah
where did kelly finish 3/4
Evan O'Donnell Kelly finished in 3rd place
armstrong is clean thats all i gotta say and lemond was way bad we are watching lemond lets talk about htat.
The race where Sean Kelly should have become world champion. He had owned Lemond in the sprint for the '86 Milan-San Remo, but for a bad gear choice made the previous day for the race (as he admitted in many interviews later), he would have done the same. Lemond was destined to win that race it seems.
And if I was a good enough cyclist on the day I'd have won it. Kelly wasn't good enough on the day. Perhaps because of the gear choice, perhaps not.
could've , would've , should've. doesn't matter. in the end, nobody cares who the loser was.
Unbelievable. He should’ve retired after that race.
Uh, he won the TdF the next season.
not compares all the cyclist from the past with drug armstrong, they were better that a junkie cyclist
ahhhh..Fignon, his ugly haircut still haunts me.
@toronto68 i know seriously. only lame thing about cycling is mechanical failures ruining races
all the sports winners are drugged, the difference between the pros in any sport and iemensly talented people who also train hard is just too big a top 40k tt average speed for a superb rider is 40kph for the pros 52 or 53 kph, if you on epo it is just so much easier to ride those wattages, no matter how big the clean guys engine is.
i agree that merckx was the greatest but armstrong was much more fun to watch then lemond.
That's what Fignon gets for attacking on his teammate.