My Son Isn't Paying Rent, Should I Evict Him?
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The son will not understand how bad he messed up until he has to pay a real landlord.
100% TRUE!!!
Thats the truth
You are exactly right
Yup
Lol right? He will find out how expensive is it out there
It drives me crazy when people have this kind of opportunity and sabotage a good thing. ☺️
Just down to the having it to easy i guess, cant see what they have, a false prospective of life
Well he already has a child at 22 so he’s obviously been making bad decisions his entire adult life.
Fire 🔥 for
Riiiiight!!!
never rent to relatives and friends!
roy delacruz
It depends. I will always pay my rent regardless of landlord.
I'm the worst at giving out loans or money since I'm so stingy and always worried about running out, but my mother is the one person I have no problem helping out whether she wants it or not. She deserves it. I just hope when I the giving step that I can give to others and not be so caught up with wealth accumulation.
Absolutely truth, and don’t even share rent with relatives and friends.
True!!
Friends is friends family is family and business is business ALWAYS keep those separate always
I don’t understand how parents let their kids run their lives
SantaOMG because love. wouldn’t happen if they raised em right.
Valenz ... do you have children?
SantaOMG you must not have kids
Because parents love their kids more than the kids love their parents.
My kids would know my house my rules and that’s it
$740/month for a house? I live in NJ and I pay $1500 for a 3 bedroom apartment.
Move down south.
That's what many people say and the homes and apartments are much better.
yea .. with $1500/month you can live like a king .. or queen lol
Try Orange County, California. $1800 a month for a 1 Bedroom apartment haha
North of PIttsburgh PA, you can get nice places for even less than that.
I'm so addicted to these dramatic calls.
The son will not take care of her when she's old. Just watch.
Parents always forget about that one! One thing about tables...they turn.
I love this song!
Do you really think he'll take care of her while he's not paying rent now? He doesn't respect her at all. He needs to adult up!
She doesn’t need him, he’s a waste of breath
Her son can't even take care of himself
I love how he took the time to so clearly go over what to say and what to do.
The solution is so perfect. Don't destroy the relationship and keep your $$$.
@ You know you're a POS right?
Anthony how do I say this, Your racist.
@ Here's a prayer for you, Anthony. "Lord, please free Anthony from his demons of racism and arrogance. Let him know that You created one race, the human race, and that a person's shade of skin color is insignificant. Remove his pride in thinking that he is better than someone else because of their skin color. Grant him the heart to love people, which is one of your most serious commandments. In Jesus name I pray, amen. " God bless you, Anthony.
@ ...do you still have this racist mentality after 10 months?
What did Anthony say? I wanna know!
Right, just don't rent to family or friends. Or even lend money. My nephew recently called out of the blue wanting some money because he was unemployed. Instead, I offered to help him look for a job and create a resume for him. (I'm a recruiter in human resources). He got mad and I never heard from him again. I think Dave would have enjoyed this story!
Because that’s not what he asked you could simply have said no, and it would have been better but you made him feel like a child telling him you’ll help w something he just has on a usb be happy he’s always asking all my age lives w the family
Pack your bags, Jimmy.
Hit the road, Jack!
Lol
im 48 and live at my parents place..
Abel1120 conlget pathetic
ShiaGirl18 and don’t come back no more
no rent = no gas, water, electricity, etc.
BEAUTIFUL LIFE
That's a good idea.
Perfect
I WISH my parents were fortunate enough to give me this opportunity. All I can do is shake my head
When you have everything, money, house and life, you will have family member like this, and they will NEVER call you when you in difficulty. That’s just how amazing those people are.
My dad called me crazy when I offered help to pay the monthly household expenses.
@SARA I know and I really appreciate their support. I've been able to work and pay for my college tuition without having any loans.
That’s so mature of you to do that.
It sounds like you were raised well by a respectable dad. Sadly western culture dictates that offspring 18+ are required to pay rent either because of the parents own financial shortcomings, vanity, narcissism, greed or stupidity.
@@justadude117X its disgusting godless atheist western culture, even if i earned more than my dad he would still pay the rent in our house 🏡
When relatives ask you to move in or borrow money get any agreements in writing. Sometimes you're better off helping strangers than family.
It was a bad idea to let them move-in in the first place. Boundaries 101.
Bwahaha! I wasn't expecting Dave to say to sell the house. It literally made me laugh all the way out loud!! Woooo! Thank you for what you do #Babystep2
Yield not to temptation to let the son back in, nor to rent to other people you may want to bless with this kind of deal and THEY won't pay neither. She has to draw up legal documents now and doesn't want to. Imagine if this continues.
Mom spoiled him.
@49jubilee Not on the phone call
thats what she get for not standing up to him
"he knows better, he's been taught better"
Well apparently not.
I’ve seen many clueless single mothers not realize how bad their parenting is. Cases like this are glaring. He turned out horrible
No it’s not “apparent”. People can be taught better and know better but still choose to do wrong. Are u really that naive?
@@triggered577 bad mom
Exactly@@triggered577
..... my parents dont ask me to pay rent im also 22 (they make it a point for me to save) but i got 2 full time jobs and when they get older my life’s purpose will be to look after them no retirement home for my folks
Until you meet some sexy thing that says otherwise.
Ladybug Jenkins i was gonna comment I wonder what your spouses life purpose will be 😂😂
Haha, 22yo's are so cute, having the next 40-50 years all planned out perfectly.
alexguy96 I don’t believe you. Life isn’t like that. You are just not a responsible adult.
Im in my mid 20s, crypto millionaire, I rent to own my house, but I have debt.. not selling my bitcoins to pay my debt tho, as they will make me a billionaire in 20-30 years
This is a very sad story. I can not believe that people like these exist for real.
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I didn't believe it either. Then I became that* person who kicks the family out. It was one of the worst experiences of my existence. Extreme irresponsibility is damaging. I'm still sick about it because I saw the way it affected kids that were involved. And I learned the hard way that I cannot ultimately save people from themselves. Incredibly painful and humbling lesson to learn...but I guess it's also important to learn it. I pray to God that I can impart to my kids this lesson so that they never have to be that* landlord or that* tenant.
My parents kicked me out at 17 for not paying rent I couldn't afford
Which people, the kids or the parents?
I moved out at that age. If I paid my mom, I would still have to deal with her complaining over nothing. Peace of mind is priceless.
30 seconds in and I was screaming “evict him”
One mother tried to throw her grown son out of the house; he killed her.
Never rent a house or apartment to a friend or relative, you must keep it strictly bussiness, and when you have this kind of proximity becomes impossible and people will take advantage
Shut up!
She straight up cackled when he mentioned the girlfriend. Lol.
OMG!!!! I am so happy to come across to this channel! My daughter is 23 years old she has a 2 year old baby boy. She treats me really bad. I want to get her out of my house. But I feel guilty.
I'm in Columbia and I would pay $520 a month and be an amazing tenant! 😂
Appreciation is a thing that is seen differently by many. I believe our background/experience has a lot to do with it.
Raechel B I second that sis!
Amen to that i pay 650 haha in columbia! Woot woot haha
I’m 24, single with no kids and still live with my dad and I pay about $230 a month for my part of rent/cable and I also pay my part for utilities, so all together I pay like $300 a month, but the bills are also split 4 different ways (since there’s 4 people living here)
That's a ploy that landlords do to get nonpaying renters out. Sometimes they really do sale property. Cause no way stay there with new owner.
Yeah I’m 22 living with my folks still but I’ve been saving $270 a week for a down payment on a house and $10,000 will go towards my emergency fund. Helping your kids save by not charging rent while they’re still at home is the biggest kind of help you could provide financially (as long as they’re actually saving) I just wish I didn’t start so late. But I’ve learned a good lesson from it because I know my plan for my children when I do decide to become a father is for them to save money for a house or college while they’re living at home.
Cody Lee yeah. My parents didn’t get that. Just gave my stepdad 500 extra for spending money.
@Sugar&Spice and a kid. You could compare on contrast like this family does this and that. so why don't you do it, but this situation was two sides to it. On one you want your kids to have the best start possible on the other you may need help with cost of living. By allowing a person to stay work and save. You give your children a better chance at survival as long as they do save. Thus allowing the person to be fully independent and able to fend for themselves not having to live pay check to pay check like so many people do in this world. Yah you can say money isn't everything yada yada, but at the end of the day you got an E fun for 10gs o no life hits you okay... compared to o no life hits now im 10g in debt cuz I can't afford the house payments, school, car, transportation to work, backed up on bills? Do you really want that for your children? or Future generations?
@Sugar&Spice Ohhhh HAHA Then yah your right I didn't catch that part. In the context of this situation where it's a rental property. I understand why that would be an issue
now.
He’s living in a house that could be bring her in positive cash flow. So he’s gotta go
She says she has money enough. My rich nephew just gave his kids a house. But he has a girlfriend. She should work too. My dad helps me out for his grandkids, but not a partner who doesn't want to work. I wouldn't mind paying everything for my sons if I could and they work. I'd go live in a room and give em my house if they work and their wives work. But for a girlfriend who just wants to stay home.. nope. They won't have those though. I warned em already to never be as dumb as I was.
Love the way you handled that Dave. Was thinking the same but got a shock when a few seconds later you said what I was thinking.
So he basically wants all the freedom of living like an adult with none of the responsibility. He should have stayed at home with his parents. 🤷🏾♀️
Marriage and financial stability first. Then, you can decide to have kids. That’s the mature and wise way to do it.
My sister and her boyfriend are doing the same thing to my Mother. Her son and his girlfriend are not going anywhere. It's a free ride.
When I was pregnant with my firstborn, my dad gave me the best advice. Don't get so caught up in raising children, that you forget you are raising future adults. That child now puts himself through school working 3 jobs so he doesn't have student debt. My other son has CHOSEN to pay rent since he got his first job at 17, contributing to other expenses too. That son was a born capitalist LOL I was a single mom making little, so I could not give them allowances. So he would ask me to buy him a thing of cool press on tattoos at the Dollar Tree. He turned around at school and sold each tattoo individually. He took the money he made from those, put some aside, and used the rest to buy more to sell ( Mind you this was in 2nd grade ). That carried through high school when he'd buy day-old donuts and sell them one by one. Turned a $1.50 investment into $12.00 a day. I'm glad I listened to my dad! I think you would have gotten along great, Dave!
McGregorGirl its illegal to charge rent at 17 and great story your sons will live as slaves because they didnt have a father. I hope my kids can suffer just as much one day smh
McGregorGirl what even is working 3 jobs ? Literally what three jobs can you work at the same time
@@williamwallace1385 He works for a factory Monday thru Friday 8 hrs a day. He works at a convenience store 4 hours a day in the evening varying days. He delivers pizza on the weekends. He goes to school online.
@@McGregorGirl what a legend
Both your kids are legends
So are you
As a son and being 49 years old myself, I am astounded by this. My parents paid for little after I was 18. I would be ashamed. He probably likes to get high at work at the restaurant and knows electrical work will be...work.
Exactly because being an electrician is real labor and work ... something he could get ahead with if he is motivated!!
My nephew making $40k at minimum wouldn't pay his mother $400 per month rent. Meanwhile, he traveled all over and had lavish meals out
The son has made some adult choices that aren't productive for him being independent and responsible. He is 22, chose willfully a low paying job, is shacking with his girlfriend, and they have a child together. Not really very responsible, but what is done is done. Mom is trying to be helpful by charging them less than market rate rent, but the two adults living there must feel entitled or can't afford to be out on their own and take care of their child. But whatever the reason, mom is NOT responsible to pick up the slack and support them. It is nice to want to do it for the grandchild's sake, but long term it breeds more entitlement and irresponsibility on their part, and contention in their relationship. Selling the house is an excellent choice, but if mom needs it has an income property, giving them 2-3 months of rent free living and then requiring them to move would be best. Good advice Dave.
Bad advice why should she be forced to sell the house. Dave would not.
In asian households the kids live with the parents don't pay rent but eventually they do anyway to look after their parents
Nido I agree. I am quite shocked with Dave's solution of selling the house just to kick the child out.
Americans do not take care of their parents like Asian children.
truee! I'm from an asian household also - it's a cultural thing. For us, it's normal to live with our parents and take care of them when they grow old (parents would never ask for rent since we family) - same thing with my future kids, who'd take care of me when I grow old.
Completely agree, definitely true with my family
"Thy Lord hath decreed that ye worship none but Him, and that ye be kind to parents. Whether one or more attain old age in thy life, say not to them a word of contempt, nor repel them, but address them in terms of honor. And out of kindness, lower to them the wing of humility, and say, "my Lord! bestow on them Thy Mercy, even as they cherished me in childhood." (Quran 17: 23-24)
Don't date and don't have a kid when you're making $9 an hour
Really liked Dave’s guidance on this. Saving the relationship is key
This is what my husband had to do with his adult children and they are 24 and 26.
wow Dave u give great advice. Excellent conversation. I would have never said this.
That is because you are a smart man.
I would like to know the outcome to this
Learning heaps from this channel...more than just $
She clearly does not like the girlfriend and wants to blame her for the son not doing what he should.
If he was taught better he would go out and get a better job. If he was taught better he would be sticking to the agreement he made with his mother.
You raised an entitled twerp and then are trying to blame the girlfriend for that behaviour.
Don’t blame this on the parents. These type of people know what they are doing and they don’t care the type of person they are.
i can hear jimmy when his mother gets old , he will say , " ok. mom you looked after me all my life and now that you're old and decrepit , you only have to take care of yourself "!
D.R. you need to have a follow up show, that would be awesome!! Get a hold of your old callers, and find out what the outcome was to these more prominent calls.
EVERYBODY SAY "FREE RENT!"
I have no problems doing that. I kicked out my son who was 19 years old at the time for selling drugs in my home. Cops rated my house. He has been gone since.
“ you don’t want to drive a unhealthy wedge between you and your son” so tell him I’m gonna sure you if you don’t move out. 😂🤦🏾♂️
What a joke.
It reminds me a little of a situation I know - only it may be worse.
My mother is so narcissistic that she’s gifting my sister a home a few doors away from her, that my sister can’t likely afford - although it’s mortgage free. My sister is used to working 4 jobs to hold onto a 1 bedroom apartment. My sister has also barely been present for decades, while I’ve been putting in all the work. But, as my mother doesn’t like an independent 50+ year old, she’s decided to scapegoat me and will not likely leave me the house she currently lives in. So, my sister doesn’t realize that she’s being used as a bat to bear me over the head with.
I’m staying away from the whole thing. My mother and sister will likely kill each other at some point. But, for now, they’re huddled together, feeling that I’m all they’ve got and that I need to take abuse from them. That, although I’m the one with most of the information about the family business, I need to give it up - and still expect abuse.😆
At least this woman owns the home her son lives in and can sell it. My MotherShit to sign over the deed and I bet my sister is ready to run to the bank (my mother), every time she can’t pay property taxes, electricity, heat or for other repairs. Then, when the SHTF - they probably think they’re going to come to me, stuck living in my 1 bedroom and actually ask for help!😆 Then, they may think I’m going to help provide care for my mother - on the off chance I haven’t been future faked into thinking I’ll inherit anything - after my mother gives her the other house OR she completely loses her narcissistic mind and my sister signs that deed over to herself, too!
Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dee with a “plan”. They don’t know, they’ve both alleviated me from ever lifting a finger! I’d much rather never see that wicked pair ever again!
😂😂😂
A lot of people know how to handle their kids but don't want to.
I like how she tried to hold up the grandkid card to get pity.
So many enablers these days because they "love my grandchildren."
Oh, puhleeze!!
Tina Turner said it best when she said: What's love got to do with it?
Exactly. They know what they need to do but they want someone to validate their emotions instead.
softwater88 i dont think i have ever seen a more boomer comment.can any of the 30 people that liked this explain what this means?
Bryan Jacobs exactly she needs to put her grandchild on the street to show how much she cares amiright?
That's pretty heartless.
I don't think she's weak for being scared that her tough love will impact an innocent baby who isn't responsible for his parents being leeches. I think the blame should lie with the parents using their kid as a human shield to take advantage of Grandma
Amen, thts some Facts, for ya... Whts Love got to do with it....
I want the follow up to this video
The son isn't living WITH her mum then yes, kick him out. If he was under the same roof, its a bit harder but if you own the property and he is living at this place then he is just like any other tenant
Let them deal with a real land lord and see what true life really is.
My brother told his girls that they needed to pay rent if they lived with him. He understood that his girls needed to see that money leave their account like it would be if they lived somewhere else. One out of four girls got the blessing. The one who stayed and respected the rules received most of that money back. My brother was saving it for my niece. He thought that she might blow through the money. So she was already accustomed to paying rent before moving to her first place. She had money for moving expenses and more from dad because she listened.
I would pay a deposit and first month's rent on an apartment for them (rented in his name), and then they would be on their own. I will make sure my grandkids are fed but I'm NOT paying my kids' bills.
This can end up sticky. Maybe she doesn't want to sell the house. Maybe she would be much better off renting it for $1,100 while it increases in value over then next years. And if she doesn't sell it, then she is a liar and a manipulator. If she does sell it, if that's only because Dave told her to, she may regret it for a very long time, because that was not her plan, it was Dave's, and she will feel that she was forced to do something because her son put her in that situation. It's a lose-lose. I say give them one month to pay the rent, or start eviction procedings the way you would with any tenant if they refuse to leave on their own. Being a landlord is a business, it is not a charity.
Lynn Proctor cool but being a mother isnt a business so its up to her to pick be a good mother or a good business man or woman...
@@williamwallace1385 She doesn't have to pay his rent forever to be a good mom.
She might as well show it to potential renters in one mo th and if her son isn't out in two months, evict him.
Selling the house is a bluff, as soon as they move out she can rent the property and he can become a man. But, it will probably end his relationship. Once his girl loses some of the financial freedom she has she’ll start to blame him and then boom relationship is done.
After he leaves he will go to rent another home where they will request his rental history. Then the new prospective landlord will call his Mom. Interesting.
Mark NC and if she wants him gone she’ll give him a glowing review😉
trying to evict 2 family members....i pay my light and gas bill then they call and get extensions making the bills double with late fees and revolving door of shutoff notices every month So now i wait to pay my portion so they pay what they owe first i cant afford a lawyer to evict them i hate it i want them out NOW
I am in the same spot with my 24 year old son. I gave him a boundary of a move out date and if he doesn’t move by that date then I am evicting Him. So I would rec do the same.
What happened?
you can tell it's a mom being mad at her son by the way she said "Hi Dave, thanks for taking my call". That means for "my son is pissing me off and i need to know way to whoop him into shape"
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Great advice Dave.
Love your show.
Where is the father? Why would someone want to legally evict their son and grandchild.
Because they don't want to pay his rent and utility bills for the rest of their lives.
Plz. They aint going nowhere. they wont let realtors in. It will still be an eviction if she has the guts.
There not going to move and the parents will not force them.
I wonder what he would say about that 30 year-old Michael Rotondo that had to be evicted by his parents?
Saw this in the recommended section from all the news videos about the 30 year old guy who got sued by his parents.
LOL what is with these parents asking Dave parenting advice? This is WHY he is the way he is.
My sister and her husband barely pay my mother. And when I talk about I’m the bad guy 🤷🏾♂️
He is getting a deal he should be happy to be helping his mom.
Best advice you’ve ever given...
Only issue is she never said she wanted to sell the house, she agreed to on air but it was never brought up by her. If it worked for her fine but what if she wanted to keep the house?
Exactly 🤦🏻♀️
What a sad world, when folks can't handle conflicts anymore without the help of the internet. How did we exist the last 2000 yrs?????
Is the answer, 'with a lot of therapy"?
Or that lol
Glad i could help... LOL!
You know we used 1) not live that long 2)had little choice 3)we murdered each other WAY more back then 4)they settled conflict with the town elder or equivalent. Dave Ramsey is our Town Elder now.
Lmbo....my bad...I had no idea Dave was our Town Elder...hahahaha....Dave, did you hear????
What are some cheaper alternatives to renting? Are there websites where people show the rooms they are renting? I've seen some ridiculous numbers here in NJ for simply renting a room. Like $900-$1100 range. For that money, i better have access to everything. Otherwise it's a total rip off.
Don’t blame the girlfriend! Both are responsible equally
“Although rent is a normal incident of the landlord-tenant relationship, the relationship may be created without any duty on the part of the tenant to pay for the possession and use of the premises if such is the express intent of the parties. Restatement (Second) of Property, Landlord & Tenant §12.1 (1977), comment b (“Effect if no rent reserved in the lease”). If no rent is reserved in the lease, the tenant is not under any obligation to pay rent.”
There’s a generation of 20 somethings just like this. Mommy and daddy creating their own little monster.
To unleash on the world
And 30 somethings
I agreed with the brilliant plan to sell the house, but with the threat and ultimatum - not so much. Why not sell it and let the chips fall where they may, that is, if the new owner or the bank evicts him, the Mom is out of the loop.
Better yet. Tell him you can't afford the property and your putting it on the market. When the house sells your will give him $1000 for a deposit and once he is out another $3000.
I use the word "afford" not in the money sense, but it the worry and stress of your relationship with him. From that point on you can not longer "afford"" cash gives except for planned events like birthdays and Christmas that have a set amount in your budget.
The generosity of good people who are successful enough to be crazy generous changes lives...not the government
My parents would never allow me to pay rent if I stayed home. Then again, in my city you can't find a decent paying job either and rent is crazy high. My parents own a big house. They would prefer I live with them but I had enough of it. Living with parents after a certain age becomes very damaging for your personal life and choices. I don't recommend. There's a reason why you move out as an adult. I moved out of the country and they still can't accept it.
Ugh. Imagine being pregnant for 9 months, giving birth, raising a kid... And having it turn out like that 😬
Man this was great advice
That was some excellent advice.
This is really good advice though Dave.
Let’s get an update on this story. Did she sell or keep the house?
My 19 year old daughter won't go to college and won't get a job.
I feel like if I put her out she's going to end up making the worst choices.
It's easy to tell someone to kick their relatives out when they're not your own.
NEVER RENT TO RELATIVES.... In this situation right now!!!! Had to sell to get from under this situation!!!!! My brother said the property is family owned. Property Taxes, insurance , Maintenance, and Repair don’t care about family.... I Will Never RENT to FAMILY EVER Again!!!!!!!!!!!
She was stupid to rent to her son if she wasn't prepared for the potential fallout. That's like co-signing on a lease and then being shocked when you're also on the hook to pay. We're also not hearing the whole story here. We don't know the kid's household income (including the girlfriend). The mother presents the situation like either he can afford the rent and just isn't paying, or he can snap his fingers and start earning enough to afford the rent. The core issue is the kid's income, and kicking him to the curb does nothing to solve that problem. Dave's solution here is...wacky. I agree with the spirit that she needs a plan to get him out on his own (perhaps she should have done this in the ~20 years before taking him in as a tenant?), but selling a potentially money-making asset to do it is simply brain dead. Unless he's saying that it's all a lie? Lie to the kid to get them to move? It's unclear. I'd prefer she come at this from a position of empathy as opposed to vengeance, acknowledging that she got herself into this mess, and any pain she inflicts on her son will also be inflicted on her grandson.
How sad that she has to sell the house , why not just ask him to move out?
This ladies son is only making $9.00 an hour but could be earning at least $20 an hour. I would be like dude, get your act together. Take the $20 something an hour job, and work towards the career that you really want to do. Especially if you have a child. This lady's son doesn't have his head on straight. And your mother is right, you need to pay rent. Your not a kid anymore.
over $700 making $9 per hour? that's way too much. I understand but you gotta have an understanding of your son struggle. be has a kid and a woman to also take care of. he should pay something definitely but not over 700
That is a good price his mom is charging. Other place is $1000 or more lol.
Don’t evict grandchildren! My grandparents did that to us because my dad (their son) drank the money. Still hurts.
DR throws the girlfriend under the bus as being the bad influence. The caller laughs devilishly. He has absolutely no first hand knowledge of the actual dynamics.
He makes about $700 before tax every two weeks and has a child. She wants him to put up the $520. Okay, so he now has about $400 a month on top of whatever the girlfriend makes to get by with a child for an entire month. The Mom has every right to kick him out, but she couldn’t afford the house before? It sounds like she’s not saying everything. Charge your kid rent, that’s your right, but at 22 with a kid, I don’t think he really has a lot of options right now. He obviously is at fault for that, but she seems so ready to cut her son out of her life. If she evicts him they may never talk to each other again.
There may be reasons he can’t get things together. Unfortunately, he needs to be pressured to face the problem.
blows my mind that some parents let they kid fall for traps the damage them financially and won’t let them stay with them it’s crazy. They are your children help them