How to Get Better at PvP EP 2: Weapon Swapping - V Rising 1.0 PvP Guide
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video, we go over why you should learn Weapon Swapping, and how to start, in V Rising.
0:00 intro
0:30 Opening Fight
1:30 Why Weapon Swapping is important
5:20 How to Get Started
7:28 Keybinds
10:40 Which 4 Weapons to Start With
18:56 Where to Go Next? Pistols
19:38 Mace
20:26 Axes
21:20 Reaper
22:19 Crossbow
23:29 Longbow
24:52 Sword - The most Interesting weapon?
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Not gonna lie. The unequip action thing is exactly the reason why i always messed up trying to learn swapping. Thank you so much for pointing this out. Cant wait to get back into the arena!
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same bro., when i found that. it made things so much better
Ironically I found that setting yesterday before seeing this video and went to the duel arena last night. Did a lot better than usual. One thing though, multiple weapons is costly in an actual world setting, let's not even talk about merciless... While it is cool to swap to a bunch of different ones, until you are rich in game, might need to limit to a few favs, at least until servants are equipped.
Same here
I swear you Virdult and Chappll pumping the pvp content to the community is the greatest thing that has happened for OW players that don't wanna really go crazy on arena and want/need the juice to practice in OW!
Keep it coming nothing but amazing content!
Yeah those guys are awesome. Glad you enjoy it!
Remorits has been putting out some solid stuff too. I'm glad the V RIsing community is growing as a whole!
@@terribletimmy2 Could you at some point make a note about the snapshotting higher level weapons into lower level weapons to get optimal damage? ie, craft a sanguine spear and every other cast becames a sanguine tier cast, this could be a great bullet point for OW enjoyers that think that its required to have all weapons up to par, while in reality you just need your main pve weapon at the highest tier and spear or GS for example can stay at iron for a while if not main weapons
Think a bullet point about this in this video would be awsome but you focusing mostly in arena
@@sigefry Yeah this is a good tactic that can be hard to remember. Switching to a stat stick, especially if running a casting build can be huge.
My god the unequip! Thank you so much! I find myself swinging my claws so often!
16:53 im glad you mentioned this, there is some serious cheese you can do with spear e in base defense. you can pull them into a room and lock them in it, preferably the servant room if the stars align. you can flank them and pull them away from the entrance and give your team an opening to hard engage while you stal and disrupt from behind. In a straight duel its bad tho
Just today I was thinking of improving my weapon swapping. Perfect timing as always
Such a good in-depth video. Also your whispering at the start spooked me a bit XD
Stay on your toes!
Also, thanks!
great video for new players
hopefully we get more guides for more experience players in the future
Thanks for that crash course! Very helpful.
This is the video I've been waiting on. That setting for the accidental unequip is gonna be huge. Thanks for the video!
No problem! Hoping to get a few more out in this series that should hopefully be helpful
@@terribletimmy2 would love seeing your favorite builds for pvp too. Best V Rising vids! Keep it up!
Amazing stuff man. Keep m coming! ❤
Keep the good work !
Good to be back
Nice one Timmah! RIP 9 weapons... My "z" keybind is my swapout keybind, replacing it with crossbow, sword and whip when different situations demand it. Feels so weird not having 9. Like that 1 more really rounded things out.
Yeah I use m3 for that. Z is my ranged weapon, stuff like longbow or Xbow.
And I agree, 11 weapons with 8 slots feels like I'm always down something I want
Hey! Random question. I loved your modular base design videos from Gloomrot. Do you have any plans to do an updated version with the new 'advanced refinery' objects? they're larger and harder to fit!
Gotta be honest, I completely forgot to make that video LOL. I'll hop on it and get one out soon.
@@terribletimmy2 I did some plotting on a D&D Map Maker and made a base layout I'm pretty happy with, but I feel like there is definite room for improvement. I'd be curious to see how mine stacks up with yours!
I do understand the frustation of losing tools available due to the loss of a weapon slot. It does open up the theme of actual builds, loadouts and meaningful decisions more though. It also decreases the entry level for players into the pvp scene a bit etc.
100%
Virdult made a weapon switching masterclass video, I recommend it
the #1 thing on your bars should be s and chase, even at iron tier slasher and greatsword is a must have. pistol too, but that comes later.
I rush slasher/greatsword asap in a new wipe, for the and chase 2in1
the greatest
hello sir could I get the music in the background? ;o also amazing video, as a newb these kinds of videos are perfect, watched it a few times now
It's a song called Futuristic View by Serge Pavkin
IMO if they added defensive weapons like a shield or something, ppl would use more spells than just defensive ones. The game atm is more about who can play "weapon piano" better
I think a shield could be interesting, although honestly people would probably still use Double Counter etc. Honestly, they need to buff/slightly change some of the existing spells to be worth using more. Bone Explosion for example should come out faster imo, or at least have a jewel that makes it better/bigger in that regard so you can't just walk out of it. Same goes for most AOEs
That opinion is wrong. Why not simply play triple-defensive in that case? Not dying will always be better in a survival game.
middle mouse is my cancel action, as you never cancel primaries, so my index finger has no competition to any other actions
we're so back
Could you please share your key bindings with us? I'm struggling with the weapon swaps and that is why I usually use only 2-3, but basically as you mentioned in the video, mostly I do use only 1. I have a mouse with more buttons, but I'm using only spear on one button and a counter on the other one.
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honestly 5 weapons i would start with would probably be axe slasher spear greatsword pistol then adding whatever u are fighting often
All good options.
Pre-1.0 it was Mace GS Spear Slashers as the core 4 weapons people would use, but whip is simply too good now
spear axe mace xbow GS, this probably the best starter weapon pack, based on OW progress ,
xbow with CV and Ward can kill Triston easily for new player
Helpful for the beginning of OW for sure, but Whip is simply too good to not include in my starting 4. I'd swap it for Mace in OW until you have Whip though.
i feel like having anything over 1 2 and 3 it feels like too much of a stretch, i do have 2 side buttons but its hard for me to get comfortable with it + i love slashers and have been using a cyclone discharge build but i am still trying to get used to using other weapons together
Some players use Caps Lock or left Alt instead of 4, but I can never get my brain to press those keys reflexively haha
Tbqh weapon swapping has tons of game design issue which has to be polished up despite the skill gap who create fun and commutativity it also significantly removes variety and clearness from the game remember how much whip and greatsword, spear dominate the meta basic attack wise, so I think it is overall bad for more casual player-base which game required to maintain, wish they somehow fix this issue in future while keeping some level of mastery at weapon swapping
Don't really agree.
If you reduce the amount of weapons we can hold and swap to, then there are tons of weapons that will just never be used.
I would always use weapons with I-frames, which instantly removes 2 weapon slots for that, and then I would just use the best remaining weapons after that.
It would be extremely rare to see things like reaper, sword, mace, or axes, because people would be using Greatsword, Whip, or Spear to accompany slashers and pistols.
@@terribletimmy2 I mean that is kinda same with my point because Im also not a fan of reducing the weapon loadouts instead my desire is improving the skillset adding combos or something like gems on weapons in order to compare each other game already have different moves on bosses especially the new vampire ones it can be also implemented into player weapons so If there where alternatives may people use them in the same way as longbow crossbow preference imagine a parry ability on a sword or something like that instead of using spell blocks for example
I wish I was better with the whip. It’s usually the weakness of my normal playstyle.
I had to and still have to really focus on swapping to it. It fills the role of poke better than pistols, but I'm too used to pistols
@@terribletimmy2 plus the pistols give you dakka dakka and are way cooler imo. Especially love the Leggo E for big pewpew
@@remortisgaming I was NOT expecting my brain to understand those two sentences, but it had a mind of it's own. :D
damn, i think im gonna have to get a new mouse, with multiple side buttons.. i just cant manage to use the number keys, to swap weapons.. its just too much for my left hand to do, together with all the left hand needs to do otherwise. (im a boomer, maybe just genetically not imposed to playing high dexterity finger games lol) i feel like most the game is left hand, while right (usually main hand as well) is doing so little, and thumb n finger not utilised. i tried useing number keys, or other key binds n patterns.. but its just too much for my left hand, if u wanna have good movement etc,
great vids n infos btw. helps me as a pvp noob alot ;)
Can relate to this. I was using mouse4 and mouse5 for R and C replacements (spells), but will defenitely re-bind to weapon swap now and give it a go. Boomer fingers here aswell
Absolutely.
I played a game for 2000 hours called Phantasy Star Online 2 that had extremely responsive, high reflex timing involved to perform actions/combos (very similar to weapon swapping, which it also had), and the mouse side buttons were a godsend. It lets you kind of divide the mental labor more evenly
@terribletimmy2 All my finger exorcice is from a few hours og Magica and Valheim. I am definitely not a seasoned leftie
Razer Naga's have you covered. The sword of 1000 truths mouse right there.
Number keys 1-12 on the side at just the click of a thumb. It'll ease a lot of strain to learn macros as well. 🙏
I’m new to this game just picked it up on console are we stuck to using just 4 weapons or do we get more slots after a certain point?
You technically do get more slots, but as far as I know, it can be kind of annoying to swap between your second set of 4 slots.
I haven't ever messed around with controller, but there should be a way to change between which set of 4 slots you're using.
@@terribletimmy2 ty the games hasn’t explained it’s mechanics very well had to look up how to use global chat lol
I figured it out I thought the other hotbar was for just pots and stuff you can slot weapons in it as well it’s just awkward that you have to hold which ever direction on the dpad to swap makes it less fluid wish it was a double tap or something else
How are people on controller supposed to switch up like this man
Yeah no idea. I would start with 4, which is definitely doable
They aren't necessarily on the 5 6 7 8 keys.
They could be bound
This video was phenomenal
Probably unpopular opinion, but a fact nonetheless. Having this much weapon versatility has made most of the magic and spells useless. I haven’t seen a single experienced PVP player using chaos bolt, or any ranged attacks spell other than ice lance for the stun. Spells and scholar builds are totally subpar in this meta. There is simply too much complexity and versatility afforded by the current weapon swapping mechanic. Forcing players who don’t spend days and days training in arena to have to master 8 weapons to compete is ridiculous. Not to mention it pigeon holes them into a certain style of play to be competitive, while making obsolete any other style of play.
It's VERY different in V Arena vs Open world. There's significantly more build variety that's usable in open world, especially while progressing and in situations like Raid Defense.
A scholar build is absolutely insane when played well in raid defense situations, and will also work in 2v2 scenarios.
For me, it's not so much the weapons as it is a heavy lack on offensive spell builds. They've over tuned Movespeed, so much that it makes anything that isn't a self-applied buff extremely hard to hit when at max level. It's nowhere near as bad at lower levels, but man is it brutal when everyone is zooming.
Also, this is kind of a side-note, but Ultimates need to be looked at as well. More Caster-style ults are needed, and maybe even something with multiple charges that cool down in 60 seconds instead of 120. Make us want to try other builds, not just default to Rogue because everything feels High Risk, mid-to-low reward.
@@terribletimmy2 Ya, the move speed disparity is terrible. I even was testing a pure warrior build with tank gear. You are totally unable to compete with someone with rogue blood. They will poke you to death with a bow and you wont get close. Scholar is the same way. They will jump all over you and spam you to death. You just can’t keep up. And the ultimate balance is so bad. Some that are ridiculously powerful, and others totally useless.
@@medic4christ777Lightning tornado is an embarrassment honestly. I spun on top of someone for the entire duration and it did about 1/8th of their hp. They did MORE damage to me while I was doing it. No idea what they were thinking there
dude... i cant even beat hardcore mode yet solo with just swapping and I still fuck it up with the timing of my abilities(for example if I want to get behind that annoying Angram the Purifier and when doing so I accidentally disarm myself in front since he is facing me by the time i figure out i double tapped or failed to launch the attack cause i was mid auto again of him lmfao) as well as clicking accidentally a double tap on the same weapon which disarms me and reduces my overall gear score killing me each time in the process, im still far from pvp if I cant comfortably deal with all the bosses with the weapons alone on hardcore i think, cause fighting real people is like... 10 times harder unless they dont know what they are doing and than its just no fun
Try disabling "enable unequip weapon" in the options
@terribletimmy2 I... didn't even know such an option existed (only played 67hr in the end of act 3).. you mean to tell me that thus far, I unintentionally deliberately dropped my hyperbolic pants in front of the bosses I faced to get manhandled by them out of masochism?!
I just wanted to speed run first and learn the mechanics and I got abused in such a pathetic manner because I forgot to toggle a single option?!?!
@@terribletimmy2 thx... I actually dont die to nonesense now, thanks you are a life saver, literally
If you use your side mouse buttons on Weapon swap before Abilities, especially those castable while moving, I won't EVER take you seriously.
And if you think that matters enough to make this comment, I won't ever take you seriously either, so I guess we're even!
What is this arena server?
It's called V Arena, on PC
@@terribletimmy2 is it still up? I can’t seem to find it on the search bar
Are you on PS5? Not sure if it's being hosted there
Some of these guys are NUTS with their weapon swapping. They need to go touch grass!
But then we'd get all itchy
I think the game would be more fun if there was a limit on weapon swapping. A cooldown or something. This shit is way too deep for a game like this, haha.
i mean i think deeper is better but the problem is needing to craft wepons that would be enough to weaponize afghans only to maybe use them once or twice in a fight
I think it's fine honestly. The amount of players who will actually get to this only is small, and the combat is extremely rewarding.
Lol true. It's def not needed fully in Open World for most players
@@terribletimmy2 yeah, fair enough. If this wasn't here people like you might've gotten bored with the game way sooner and wouldn't be making this amazing content for us. I think I will focus on 3-4 weapons and call it there xD
Man, not even fun. No way to get a read on your opponent's moveset so you can predict and outplay. Just becomes a game of trying to overwhelm your opponent mentally. Artificial gatekeeping to pvp that makes casual gamers not want to even get started. Battlerite was so fun because you could predict your opponents by knowing their options.
2 weapons that you swap between should be the standard. This combat isn't even enjoyable to watch as a viewer. People are just going to stick to their pve servers.
Coming from a Battlerite veteran and someone who has solo'd the game on pvp/full loot servers a few times. Call is a skill issue, but that won't populate your servers.
2 different games. A 3 v 3 moba-style team fight game vs a open world survival game.
@@terribletimmy2 I was simply stating that I am competent at the pvp, and since this game directly takes the exact same gameplay and literally uses a lot of abilities taken from battlerite, that I am not expressing this opinion due to lack of ability to compete in the pvp.
From a viewer perspective, watching two people swapping weapons every 2 seconds is just ugly and really makes it hard to appreciate the nuances of the combat of this game. From a learning perspective, needing to flood your action bar with weapons and spend so much time learning to switch between them is boring and tedious.
I know elitists love this stuff, and I do get it to some degree. But it's like menu swapping in Dark Souls/Elden Ring. It is something that is simply a time-sink in order to be able to utilize, makes it impossible to predict your opponent's next move (Which is my personal favorite thing to do in pvp games), and as you literally pointed out in the video yourself, gives an elitist a huge advantage over casual players.
And no, a well balanced game, while requiring some level of commitment to compete, shouldn't have systems in place that reward time invested so much so that it overshadows intelligence and creativity. The less you can focus on the micro of a game, the more you can focus on the macro.