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As an autistic, I went to an outdoor festival and took E. It was mind blowing - I saw, in slow motion, how people interact, communicate with body language, all the social clues were so obvious. I was able to look into people's eyes for the first time! I will never forget that experience
Same. Though my Autism was undiagnosed then (42 now), rolling was the only time I felt "normal"; having the confidence and wherewithal to socialize in any setting with (almost) anyone while exercising full control over my body: facial expressions, gait; hell even my dancing wasn't half-bad sometimes. It was empowering! Unfortunately, the experience being irresistible and the appetite for more 'normality' insatiable, it became a habit indulged in too frequently, and there's a price to pay for saturating your brain with serotonin on a regular basis. Plus, the tabs themselves were becoming adulterated post-2002-ish and I ended up poisoning myself. I no longer possess my once impressive faculty for math, and now speak haltingly when searching for words which once came so quickly and naturally to weave eloquent, if aspberger's-shaded diction. But hey, I got a precious daughter out of the bargain. I wouldn't have met her mom had I not been partying. Don't damage that beautiful brain of yours!
@@stephenjemyers I was unaware of that fact, but it makes perfect sense. Self-medication for a maddening, mystery affliction none would identify for me - much less explain to me. You understand. I appreciate the well wishes and sentiment, and hope you're doing alright yourself, man. Taking it one day at a time here.
If its magic mushrooms it's the opposite. The key is eating the right amount at once. Eating half a dose now and half a dose later is just the same as eating half a dose
@@irieite9666 I find the same thing with LSD just take the full tab dont take half wait 2 hours than take the other its just gonna extend your half trip
I've been a drug addict my whole life, started sniffing airplane model glue in 1968, I was 8, followed by weed, of coarse alcohol, hash, acid, mescaline, shrooms, speed, cocaine, heroin, in about that order. It's the heroin that takes the most from you, I was a hard worker, a functioning addict, but again the heroin made it near impossible to keep steady control, it just consumes you, every thought is next hit, I'm 62 now, have no idea how I've survived the countless od's, on a suboxone program, it's saved me, although I still freebase cocaine, it's crack with the baking soda cooked out, brings cocaine back to it paste form basically, pure. Drugs have taken all from me, family, I'm completely isolated, I don't feel sorry for myself but I love my family and their not around. I never talk about this, I'm sorry to bore you if you've read this but I actually feels kinda freeing to print out my story. Good luck 🙏
Well done for admitting the truth, all the best to you buddy, you seem to be alive now and you've begun to respect your health to some extent, maybe you have a chance to make connections with other people one day soon, even if your family aren't around
I was Daves neighbour, he died in December. he was a lovely bloke had his issues but was a good hearted guy that would go right out of his way for you if he liked you, half of the stuff said in this doc was exaggerated. RIP mate
Gary’s the kind of guy if you were having an emotional one at a party he would halt his own fun to talk you back to smiling again. Or at the very least listen to you and offering sound advice. Best wishes for him x
I've needed folks like that on a couple of acid trips. I would just think of my friend Rob that was shot and killed and just kept crying it was odd, felt better afterwards though
Yes, agree! Over my raving years, I've met a number of Garys, especially on the gay scene. They're the characters who make the rave community so magic.
Yep. I’m a bit of a mom within our little Jamband scene. Everyone knows that I will always have an antacid, aspirin, ibuprofen, hand sanitizer, Kleenex Etc. I’m packin’ & I don’t bogart! 🤣
I was a major DJ in Philly for over 20 years. I used to play at the huge clubs on Delaware Ave. At 40 on my birthday after going through an 8-ball, and watching my friends drop like flies I knew it was time to stop. Over 70% of my friends as well as my younger sister are now dead. A good friend of mine just died last week. Dont kid yourself. A functional drug user is still a drug user. All it takes is the wrong mix of coke and Fentanyl and youre done. Im turning 60 next month. Im happy and sad as I survived but most of my friends didnt.
This girl is emotionally intelligent and was the perfect girl to do this report. Not patronizing or treating them like freaks and honest about her own experiences and concerns. I thought for sure after he said throat cancer he was going to get told off for smoking as it the typical crap that people spout (as if the person hasnt already heard about the link) but I was pleasantly surprised when she didnt do that, and treated him like an adult instead, who is making his own decisions.
Right?? A true journalist. No matter how painful it might feel they must remember it's not their place to alter the environment or subjects they are reporting on
“Dave lives in a nice house, in a quaint neighborhood and has been partying and using hard drugs for over 50 years. He must be a functioning and responsible drug addict…” (Camera spans to axe lodged in tv)
I'm 60. I still party like it's 1979. Just not every day like I used to. I think what people fail to understand is that you are who you are. Just because you're wearing an old man suit of skin doesn't really change much. We still dig the same stuff we did when we were teenagers.
Opioid addiction actually destroyed my life. I started doing drugs 18 years ago as a teenage. Got addicted to opioid. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Was actually diagnosed with OCD. Not until my husband recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 3 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
Thanks for sharing your story. That's rough I sympathize. Save your health save your mind. Life is better without heroin, cocaine, alcohol and cigarettes. And you have more money in your pocket. God bless everyone who has rejected the devils intentions to be addicted to alcohol and cigarettes etc which can cause so much damage to health. I will pray for you all.
Can you help me with the reliable source 🙏. I'm 56 and have suffered for years with addiction, anxiety and severe ptsd, I got my panic attacks under control myself years ago and they have come back with a vengeance, I'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't get the full satisfying breath out, it's absolutely crippling me, i live in Germany. I don't know much about these mushrooms. Really need a reliable source!! Can't wait to get them
Watching Dave gave me a bit of an anxious feeling. The bloke isn't a raver, he's a drug addict who uses to numb a lot of pain. I think he hides behind the jack the lad persona.. of course I could be completely wrong and I hope I am but something seems very off with him.
Totally agree. I saw this for the first time a couple of days ago and have watched it several times now. Dave is the person who affected me the most and I’ve thought about him a lot seen I first saw it. I thought I’d find it entertaining, seeing a fucked up old guy - which sounds bad in itself - but I just saw a lonely old guy that’s self-medicating to an extreme degree to numb some serious mental health issues. I know I sound OTT but, yeah, it got to me.
A lot of ravers, festival goers, hippies, whatever labels people wanna give are also that. I have known thousands of people that find any excuse to go to any event in order to feel less guilty about their drug use. Myself included.
This is one of the problems with our ageist culture these days. It’s looked down on and like they’re tragic/pathetic to still do what they like(going to raves). In my eyes these older people are the real ones; they aren’t just doing it because they’re 22 and it’s the cool thing to do but because they’re truly into it.
The face says it all. For most of these people they lose the ability to feel good with a cup of coffee , A good movie , A romantic dinner , At the end of the day the brain and body is unable to settle for simple pleasures, Get it together there might be not much time left.
Ecstasy will do that. Trust this. You'll never meet a more sincere and connected interviewer than someone...anyone, whose molly just dropped. Also it will change your psychology to that effect for years after several uses.
She’s obviously not shy to partying. When you’ve been around drugs and party’s you’ve seen the best and worst of people, nothing is suprising after that. You allow yourself to hear people’s story’s not just the cover.
this girl is a lost case, my friend, there is nothing intelligent about her, she has a burnt brain, a washed mentality... her soul is lost... she has no self... I can talk about her for centuries, but why should I waste my time on a stupid bit*h... stop it boy... get some help...she is already filthy in mind, spirit and body... why are she telling us how promiscuous she whas... dose she have any dignity towards herrself, principles, consideration, dose she value anything,dose she have any respect for herself... try meditate... I have AUDHD im 26 im never go to party my hole life or having sex becaouse im holly, pure im enlightehed... I dont whant to filth my self with you so calld people or this ''world''... I don't want to cooperate with people... it's the same as taking a painting from Picasso and throwing it among the pigs... I love and appreciate myself and my holy spirit too much...❤✌that is truu hapines and reality... inner pice, love, silencie... may light shine up on you my friend...
I raved for 10 years, stopped in my mid 30s. I have zero regrets, they were by far the best years of my life. I saw life from a different angle, where there was no stress or care in the world. Now I'm stuck in a dead end marriage with a narcassistic train wreck of a woman who makes my life a misery...if only I could turn back the clock.
It’s never too late to do changes. I suggest you to see yourself from the perspective you would see you when you were young. What would your young self suggest you to do in that situation? We are always saying “oh if I could go back and talk to myself …” but what if your younger self could advise you instead? I wish you the best 😊
this girl is a lost case, my friend, there is nothing intelligent about her, she has a burnt brain, a washed mentality... her soul is lost... she has no self... I can talk about her for centuries, but why should I waste my time on a stupid bit*h... stop it boy... get some help...she is already filthy in mind, spirit and body... why are she telling us how promiscuous she whas... dose she have any dignity towards herrself, principles, consideration, dose she value anything,dose she have any respect for herself... try meditate... I have AUDHD im 26 im never go to party my hole life or having sex becaouse im holly, pure im enlightehed... I dont whant to filth my self with you so calld people or this ''world''... I don't want to cooperate with people... it's the same as taking a painting from Picasso and throwing it among the pigs... I love and appreciate myself and my holy spirit too much...❤✌that is truu hapines and reality... inner pice, love, silencie... may light shine up on you my friend..
I'm an ex-full-time partyer, been and done it all a thousand times over, now I'm an addictions counsellor. I'm not against drugs or drug taking, it'd be very hypocritical if I was. The important questions to answer for me is this: What are the most important things in your life? How are those things affected by your use? If the answer is that the important things (relationships, job, kids, health, mental health etc) are being negatively affected then it's time to reevaluate. I can assure you that just because you stop using doesn't mean you stop living. I'm happier now than I ever was when I was using, and it's real.
Moderation is key! Gary has the right idea and saw he was drinking water through the day/night so a plus. Raving at that age looks like great opportunity for exercise for physical health and the social interactions at these events must be great for mental health as well. From what I see, keep on keeping on Gary!
Dancing is exercise and keeps you young. Also movement is treatment for arthritis. I wouldn’t continue using drugs though…at some point you just become good at it, and no longer need “performance enhancers”…
Literally the only healthy thing is moving around. These dudes are doing drugs, and staying up all night. How is that the right idea? All I can say is that if he's truly happy, then so be it, but if he actually wants to keep living he needs to at least subtract the drugs from the raving.
This gives me hope. I'm 27 and depression has caused me to miss out so much on life. I hope someday I can rave in my 30s, 40s, and 50s and have a good time, even if I break my hip doing so.
Bro I literally started being a raver when I was around that age. You got time. As long as you're cool and understand the culture people will be cool to you. The only time I saw someone who was older who was shunned was this dude who was obviously there just to pick up girls and didn't know anything about rave scene culture. Stuck out like a sore thumb. Start with the artists you really really love and go to those shows and make friends from there. It'll be easier that way because you'll have a good reason to be there: You're going to see one of your favorite artists. 🤷 Also festival culture is great immersion too. So yeah, go for the music and everything else will kinda fall into place. If LOVE EDM I think you'll find a group of people as excited about it as you are. Everything else with like drug culture is just a side show to the main event.
Hey bud I was there as well. What I can tell you that helped to me was positive affirmations to myself in the mirror and you HAVE TO ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT. Do this time and time again my friend until you feel it. This also helped my internal thoughts. Peter life is for our experience, love yourself and try and find what you enjoy.
Former junkie checking in. My late teens were spent on lsd and molly then when I was 23 I got into dope and crack stayed on that train till about 29 when I got off methadone. Immediately went back to molly, acid, ketamine, nitrous, weed... still going at 35 and my life is infinitely better now than then. In all aspects. My health is better my social circles are not all about drugs, though we do them, and I have all the trappings of an adult existence but still feel like im young. You can do it if you want.
Psychedelics definitely have potential to deal with health issues like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them but it's just hard to source out here.
I was having this constant and unbearable anxiety because of university stress. Not until I came across Ted Winston, a very intelligent mycologist, He saved my life honestly.
I was early raver back in my late twenties and it carried on till I found myself addicted I'm grateful now that I am clean and sober one day and a time.
@@nataliezementbeisser1492 Within about 10s of his appearance, I knew I'd met at least 10 people that are so similar to him they'd get on like a house on fire
I love these kinds of documentaries. I think the real problem is not that they are still at the party’s but that people think going out and having fun isn’t something you should do when you are older and people expect you to act more „responsible“. I think there is nothing irresponsible in partying and having fun, especially if you do it like Gary with lots of experience and caution.
Thank you! Why is this even a topic!? Life doesn't stop until your dead! The obsession with age and growing old...is absolutely absurd, considering its a part of LIFE
@@STOPLISTENANDTHINK most people who don't live responsibly also have extremely miserable lives. And as someone who's brother tried coping with life by doing drugs that killed him before he turned 18, I think these people are idiots because drugs are one of the dumbest and most easily avoided ways of dying. You can have fun without destroying yourself
I'm 28 and my parents are 63 and 56, I can't keep up with them. Dad DJs at clubs and underground raves every weekend, Mum is there as his No.1 groupie. Most awesome parents ever!
I’m 50 this year. I can still drop a good 3 deck mix. And even tho I’m arthritic I can still cut a back to back windmill. But sometimes I do get emotional when listening to the old school vibes I do miss the chaos and laughter. One love to all be kind to each other.👏👏👏🇬🇧
After decades of recreational and psychedelic drug use there is one thing old dude is forgetting; you have to feed the body nutrients and vitamins with proper rest intervals to feel the drugs. Otherwise you're just chasing the day-glow DRAGON.
☝🏼True here- age is import but physical mental spiritual health goes a long way to enjoying life post 50. I'm 56, in amazing health and my life pretty much rules. After decades of chemical abuse, I'm feeling pretty much right on...
Yeah I don't think it really matters if you're a serious drug user; you can eat healthy all you want but if you're taking heroin all day long it's not going to matter much.
I'm 67, still teaching high school, traveling. I partied very hard until it wasn't fun anymore. Getting sober (alcohol, prescription pills) in 2013 sort of shifted things for me. No regrets! I have no problem with people my age partying; it just isn't my thing anymore.
thats the best and easiest way to quit i find, i quit weed and alcohol that way when it just wasn't fun anymore, smoking is the only thing i struggle with quitting, but i have never been a huge smoker, no more than 8-10 a day and i can get by on 4 a day without much issue, but totally quitting is hard and most of the issue comes from boredom and habit and not addiction, i spent 5 days in hospital a few years ago and they gave me a nicotine patch the first day and i never asked for another after that one, i found it didnt make me feel any better and i didnt feel any worse without it, but i was distracted the whole time i was there, boredom has been the source of almost all my desires through life to consume drugs, part of it was also depression when i was younger but i got over that when i found out i had ADHD and that was what was causing my despression since it took away my ability to focus and also my energy.
Eventually the “no hangovers” turn into a total suck-ass the next day.. Then the hangover eventually graduates from Masters to a PHD and lasts at least 3 days. Including extreme, debilitating exhaustion. For some of us, after so many morning-afters feeling completely worthless, stripped of dopamine & serotonin - you eventually make the decision that it’s just NOT WORTH IT anymore 😂
As someone who partied for a living for many years, it’s fun until it’s not and then it’s fun again. There’s just an emptiness that comes with it in the early hours of the morning when the birds are chirping and the Sunday joggers have come out, that can’t be explained to anybody who hasn’t experienced it.
I'm 61 and my husband is 64. We went to a party just last night. we had a blast! But we're not into the raves or drugs. Hubby quit smoking mj just 2 years ago. Funnily enough, right when it became legal in Canada. But we're not ready to sit in rocking chairs on the porch, and we hope to never grow tired of having fun. We don't feel like grown-ups, and we're still waiting on that. My mother is 86, and she drives a big pickup, and goes camping all summer by herself. She still enjoys life too, and I hope to live as long and as happily as her!
Yeah, but my point is here that everyone quits partying in their late 20s not just because of raising kids and leading careers, but because they're physically unable to handle it. Chubbyemu intro music starts playing otherwise. You can enjoy life more thoroughly sober ultimately.
I think there are plenty of serious minded teens with Aspergers who study hard and work hard and want to make a contribution to society except they're lonely and not allowed into that society. They watch as other people have fun and joke and go out on weekends, they watch with envy the beautiful girls among those groups of fun people. And they have no idea how to be part of that, how to have fun laughing beautiful friends like that. They think maybe if I study harder and work harder and make more money they will accept me.
@@hufficag I'd addendum to that, that it's disastrous for them or anyone frankly aspergers or not to think that doing drugs to be "cool" when it's a stupid idea that'll leave you surrounded by people who aren't really your friends. If you want to test this, go two months without seeing your drinking buddies and see how things change with you being sober and them not. Their lives revolve around substance abuse, not each other, it's just they abuse substances in the same spot. It's one of the most horrible ideas that a smart kid could ruin themselves just to hang out with people that are actually uncool and bydlo and wreck their health and mind in the process.
Ive been so many british festivals and met loads of heads like this. Absolute salt of the earth. Im 30 now and have effectively retired apart from the occasional rave every few years, but i have so many amazing life changing memories. some things are better to quit while youre ahead ❤
I remember taking a 4 year tolerance break off of all substances that I took on regular basis and it was one of the best things I ever did, now I always moderate and test all my drugs, I will never bender again.
@@Kaiyats you can buy test strips specifically for testing for fentanyl. Its being cut into allsorts these days sadly so itd be worth getting some, i bet mac miller wishes hed used one!
@@tibicenlinnei4014 fent is the worst drug ever. Kills you easy, waaaay more potent then heroin with less euphoria, shorter acting time and more death. Stupid drug!
Damn. "Maybe your a bit sad?" "I have no idea, i wouln't allow myself to think it." That hit home. That was kinda me 2-3 years ago, just numbing everything away but goddamn does life get boring if u do this. Glad I got away from that mindset and sad that Dave (and for sure many other people) have lived their whole life like that.
This seems like a way better way to age than what I see in my daily life. Fat immobile, bitter yelling at the TV, wasting away in a casino. I found it rather sweet.
If you are 60/70/80 and going to Raves, taking drugs and enjoying life, who’s to say that the “dangers” even matter, at that point in life one has lived a full lifetime and if they perish doing something they love then is it even wrong? I say regardless of the negative impacts that these ppl are very aware of, they are happy, they are living exciting lives instead of just getting old and dying from old age! I support this 💯, especially bc I myself am a lifetime raver, I started in 1995, almost 30yrs ago! I love this!
@alicewolfson4423 same age here and riding my KTM Duke to raves and rock festivals where I get more stoned than when I was young and a hippy in the times of sex, drugs and rock&roll. Of course, I'm not crazy, so, for instance, I eat space cookies instead of smoking joints, and I never begin with coke, although I usually have a bit for later in the night. My preferred drugs are pot, MDMA, DMT, acid when available, and coke, although not much, like a couple of grams for a week long rave like the Boom. I certainly know that any day in one of my 6 to 12 hours dancing, I can have an heart attack or whatever, but that would be *good*, nor bad for me, as I don't want to end like a vegetable in a parking for old farts. 😀 And what a compliment when youngsters tell me that they want to be like me when they get old. 😊
As a 65 year old myself who still engages in a party lifestyle, I understand each of these people. At this moment I'm limiting my intake to Suboxone and cannabis. Being an ex heroin addict I've put my body through quite a bit of turmoil in the past. My message to other people in my situation is simply cut out the heavy narcotics and medicate with cannabis. Stay strong.
I'm 34 I'm a recovering fentynal addict. Subvoxen and cannabis saved my life. I too have put my body thru hell but I learned your body is very resilient. I damaged my body so much but I watched it slowly heal its self. It can be done
Subutex & thc is criticalll for my recovery! Which is also from herion/fentanyl. *** BUT, this doesn't work for everyyybody. *** BUT, it has saved millions of lives! Some people are unable to use marijuana in a medicinal way. I suggest to anyone to find what works for you,b& fucking run with it! Stick with it! No matter what
45 Here...was a heroin addict for 20 years or so. Now on MAT and lifesaving cannabis. Perhaps some psilocybin once or twice a year to reset a bit and gain a different perspective. Kudos to everyone here - we are winning the battle!
" You can always add on, you cant take off " That's advice I've always told to others and is 100% true. Also to add to that, you should always respect any substance you choose to do, otherwise it'll do you and that's never good. You should always do the drug, not let the drug do you. If you choose to dance with the demons, You better respect the devil or they will deliver you to him.
@Harry Daveyits it's like telling people to just not have sex if they dont wanna get pregnant, people are gonna have sex , so just teach them how to do it safely
What scares me most about the scene today is the prevalence of fentanyl in street drugs, especially where I live. It's sooo easy to mix the drugs wrong, leaving "hot spots" in a batch no matter how hard you try. When the difference between life and death is literally the weight of a grain of rice, you can see how easy it is to overdose. And don't get me going on bogus psychedelics. What we used to call "dirty acid" turned out to be totally different compounds. It's a crazy world we live in!!
NBoMe hasn't been around for many years now. LSD is super easy to get and there are actually a lot of fantastic rc psychedelics around these days (4 substituted tryptamines, 1p-lsd/al-lad etc) that you can just order legally on the internet. Really easy to get proper psychedelics. Just test your stuff. Always got my stuff on the darknet and never received something other than what I ordered.
@@InnerPeaceBeauty I too feel sorry for the guy, the contrast between Gary and Dave was massive. Gary was together and moderated "you can always add on you can't take off" I could have done with him in my day. He was happy, healthy, chatty and social. Dave struck a very isolated figure, you can't say he looked healthy all he was doing was consuming I question if he could stop without help. Even when they went out it looked so depressing and isolated he couldn't make eye contact with her as she interviewed him, just staring straight ahead. When she began to ask about potential trauma he began to rub his left hand and move it about. I know those movements from my own experiences, he looked like he was having a freak out and was feeling it in his left arm, which could mean he was feeling like he was having heart problems. Of course I could be projecting but it brought me back to my last days i felt that panic again and my heart went out to him in that clip. I worry for him, a lot. I've been to Bristol a lot, its an amazing city but I'm glad I never lived there. I'd have definetly lost myself there.
I used to rave in the 90s.Im 45 stop 20 years ago. No one talks about the depression from all the drug use and all the serotonin that was stolen it does build up slowly but you're never quite the same.
yea definitely true when I was rav’n every weekends taking E. It really put me in a slump during the week. That’s when I started taking 1.5/2.0 grams of 🍄 and it was so much better to Rave on as it felt natural and clean.
SAM-e my friend, start taking that supplement. Or rather, look into it first. It's a damn shame things like this aren't prescribed by docs. It's a natural substance in your body that can be built back up easily
I was thinking the same thing. I like her accent. I'd love to meet her. She's my kind of lady for sure. easy going non judgmental. Kool chick. Hard to find Josh.
41, professional dj, and still party every weekend. Be safe and moderate what you put in your body. Only you are responsible for yourself. There’s no age restriction when it comes to having fun.
46, Been raving since the 90s still hit a 2-3 events every summer. Much more moderate these days, but.............. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
I'm curious what your opinion would be on a song called "Anax" it's an edm song but it slowly ramps up the beats until it's pretty sick in my opinion. Always made me go crazy but I'm sure you'd say it's garbage. These dudes are into a totally different kind of music lol
Now Dave is the epitome of Dave the Rave… in both the positive and negative aspects. I really hope he’s doing well as I write this. He seems like a very genuine and earnest kind spirit. Big up Dave!
It's nice to see older people that are still having fun. I've never been big on parties, even in college, but do what makes you happy as long as it doesn't harm others.
Me and my buddies used to get wrecked and beat the hell out of each other with sticks. It was so much fun!! I I went to a rave twice and seemed like everyone was huffing vapo rub and there was always a group writhing around on the floor in the corner. I went straight back to riverbank stickfights after that.
VICE needs to do a documentary on all the STIs going around old folks' homes. I'm not kidding. It's actually one of the hugest growth centers for sexually transmitted disease.
Dave is every old drug addict/alcoholic in every neighborhood bar, probably depressed, lonely, and keeping his demons at bay by never being straight. I've been there, done that, and I'm glad I don't have to live like that anymore. But you have to have something left to live for, and most of these people have no lives to speak of other than their party friends, who really aren't their friends. Sad as hell really.
This situation is the same across all elements of society. Drugs don’t necessarily have to be a part of it. Suicides in Japan are very high for this reason. I know the way I would prefer to go out. Loneliness is endemic!
Totally pathetic. Grow up & act your age. Like a big high kid. Using drugs to hide from life, telling others to use in moderation? Gross & dangerous. Prob go after 20 yr olds too😐
You've interviewed an older raver of a similar age and mindset to myself who still likes to party and take a few drugs now and then, alongside two chronic drug addicts. The first is one of many people of my generation who still like to party from time to time. The second and third are part of a dying (literally) tradition of chronic drug abuse and most of us older ravers would see them as having little in common with us beyond being a scary example of what we could have become had we not taken a step back at some point in our lives.
Fr. Im sitting here anxious from my 1/3rd addedall prescription. Forgot i used to live this rave life from 15 - 19 years old lmao. And im only 25. Old dudes rolling off a half gram and blow… nah i aint worried about my measly baby prescription anymore 💀
The rave scene in the US is a lot more niche than in the UK, but I’ve seen one of these guys. He’s always having a blast in the pit. All power to him, I’d say. We all gotta go down someday, might as well go down swinging.
I went to my first rave back in 1997. I was 16 around that time. Now im 42 and still going to underground raves. I will be the last man standing. To be a junky or enjoying the life is a huge difference. Im a project manager and never skip a day off work 👊
Same. I never skip a day of work and simply enjoy the community that raves bring together. I'm a Radiologic Technologist. As long as you take care of business, you should be able to do whatever you want.
@@patrickharris5917 so true. I've heard this from so many who started off saying the same things...they think they can control it, they still are responsible and work. Years later I see them full blown junkies who've lost everything.
I've never missed a day of school and now work. I've never let my partying get in the way of my work. "Where are you from that "Raves" still exist????"
Garry is awesome, there is nothing wrong with going to raves as a senior, though I do think that there comes a point where you need to draw a line on the substance that you take. Your body does degrade over time after all. But then again everyone is different, some can handle it, others can't. But keep on raving Garry. What a legend
Your body gets immune to substances the longer you do it and you can't get the same feeling without it adversely affecting your life and health. They all have a shelf life.
I used to do drugs all day and all night for years. It sucked stopping and I went through a 2 to 3 year long depression after I stopped but I can honestly say things have gotten much better since then. I am actually very proud that I can now go to parties and shows without feeling pressured to do drugs in the slightest though I'd be lying if I said I never felt at all tempted but with time it has only gotten easier and easier to thew point where I honestly don't even think about it anymore and can finally start focusing on things that actually matter in life.
I'm in the same place dude. The worst thing was the brain fog for about three months after I stopped. I genuinely thought that that I had lost most of my brain's cognitive function - like the most I could achieve is a shelf stacker at a supermarket. It was the worst depressive state I've ever been in. Five years later I'm a Marketing Director with all the opportunities I could dream of. Life is so much better without the heavy session.
It's nice when it happens like this, I think getting a little older could have some perks. I feel like I'm getting closer to that point. I feel like going to the store now. But for 2 24oz beers not 3 40s like my younger years
I've just been through rehab for drugs and alcohol I've destroyed everything good in my life. I'm 34 been an addict since 13. I urge anyone who thinks it's a problem to seek help. Don't want anyone to lose and destroy life like I have
Me too, similar story. Good luck with your sobriety. I'm watching this and thinking what a way to keep living. Drugs and me means destruction like jumping off buildings etc. Keep pressing on with your sobriety.
I don't know you, but I'm proud of you.. You're still young, please don't think you've wasted it all.. Think of it like your 20s were the fun years, 30s are the practice years where we figure it all out and the 40 and beyond is enjoying it all.. You've got this!!
I'm 34 I was an addict for over 7 years. I have a year sober and what sucks the most is realizing how far behind in life u are from your peers. I have a lot of making up to so but it's well worth it.
I’m proud of you for getting help. Don’t feel like you’ve destroyed your life - you’ve got a lot of years left to leave clean and healthy and fix things! ♥️
Bless you all for kind words. I'm 60days clean now. So have chance to rebuild .the party stopped being fun for me a long time ago. AA and rehab have saved my life
This was awesome to watch. I grew up in the scene. 13 yrs old at my first rave. I’m 34 yrs young now and haven’t been to a rave in 15yrs or so. Seeing people going strong and living their lives in inspiring. Tons of love to all of u! PLUR ❤️
Right on man im 30 but still look like im 19 lol everytime I buy alcohol they still try to test me thinking I have a fake ID then look at me like im crazy when they see im actually 30 and I still feel young well I have always been a late bloomer I even still played with toys when I was a teenager lol.
As someone who once upon a time lived this life for far more than a decade, I got bored of it after many many enjoyable years that definitely had an impact on my life and my sobriety. It’s definitely a part of my life that was the most fun and exciting, with long-standing friendships with some excellent excellent humans that spans across the world. Most of them are either still active in a more measured way or it’s still their lifestyle. Even fewer, like me, choose sobriety and while I love me a bangin sunrise set when I get the chance, I’m nourishing my soul in more sustainable ways that work for me. I still love to find new EM, and chase the bass, that will always remain. 🎵
Aww this girl is adorable. She's just so chill and comfortable talking. I think she's the real Rockstar in this. When I drink or do stuff I feel like it's to try to be this comfortable in my own skin.
I am a former partier who’s been sober for double digits and partied at underground raves in the 90s. Our bodies, particularly our brains, are not impervious to damage. For example I hardly remember anything that happened from the years when I smoked weed all the time, like when me and my bff first clicked, stuff like that. Also when I later confronted my Deeper emotional issues in therapy, I almost immediately stopped clicking with people in the scene. It’s fundamentally escapism, and as long as you don’t want to confront how you really feel you will enjoy partying and doing drugs, which as she said is your choice, but there are long term consequences. Quoting Wyatt Earp in tombstone “there’s no money in it”
An old man once said he had spent 95% of his money on wine, woman, and song. When asked what he spent the other 5% on. He laughed and said “Oh geez, I wasted that!
Had that "moderation awareness" phase for the very first time on a forest psy party last month. I got a couple of different E pills and out of curiosity I looked them up on a pill database. Both of them seemed to be supercharged with mdma, a much higher dose than normal so I split them in 3 portions and took 1/3rd per hour. I ended up just getting a nice energy boost everytime , got throughout the night enjoying the forest and the sets and went back home the other morning with a smooth comedown and a big smile over how nice that night was. Best thing ever.
when i was 19-24 in 1998-2003 i would buy a 10 stack of X for the weekend and had a time based routine..always did the samething.. always strtd off w half a pill..and then every 1-2 hrs another half at a time for up to 6 hrs MAX..then after my 6 hr alarm went off no more X until come down. Then one last halfer and a joint of some good weed to set the mood for end of the night w headphones and trance music.. (ALWAYS PAUL OAKENFOLD) OMFG WHAT An END OF THE NIGHT RIDE THAT WAS! Always knew when to says stop tho never over did anything .plus can only do so much b4 it's a waste of $ & X .😑😊🤩🥳🥴😵💫🤤😪😴
It's so lovely reading the comments from an older generation still so young at heart. Hopefully my generation when it reaches this age will have a lot more kindred spirits to dance with :) x
This documentary also doesn't show the side of raving, EDM and dance culture that stays mostly sober. I've been enjoying festivals, dance parties, edm shows etc. for over a decade completely sober and never having more fun. It also provides me with tons of cardiovascular exercise and peace of mind I wouldn't be experiencing otherwise which I credit to looking like I'm teenager despite being over 30.
Best way they can do that is to stop abusing these drugs. Nothing inherently wrong with the drugs, nor even the consumption of them, just the people using them in this setting. This isn't good or badass or respectable. They're just junkies. Nothing special, just people who have no self control. Don't glorify this behavior. This is a bad way to take drugs. Pure stupidity.
The chick interviewing comes across as a genuinely kind human. Enjoyed everyone good luck to all and by the way dying in your sleep is that bad, I know I have done it ❤️
I used to got to alot of parties between 2005 and 2009 and I also took alot of drugs in private settings. Aside from smoking weed, I used to love and I mean LOVE ecstasy. I was also very into acid and mushrooms. A problem started to come along when I could not get high on ecstasy without feeling the comedown even during the high. I just could'nt do it without that horrible feeling creeping in almost instantly. The comedowns started lasting weeks and I had started getting sleep paralysis. I tried it again a few times in 2015 but the comedowns were too much for me. As for psychedelics I had to stop that too. After I had a sort of out of body experience I began feeling I was starting to "know too much" and it really scared me. It's probably for the best I stopped but I do miss those 4 years before it went pear shaped. One thing I don't miss is that feeling when you are laid in bed the "morning" after, absolutely exhausted but unable to sleep with only that horrible feeling of emptiness and anxiety for company. Unfortunately for me it's definitely not worth it any more.
I had that same feeling after years of taking ccc or coricidin cough and cold. I was having to take 32 at a time twice a day to feel anything and eventually just the taste of the outside coating of that pill would make my throat try to close up when i would try and swallow them. I moved to delsym because of that and was measuring out teaspoons to equal 32 of them because each spoonful is the same as 1 pill. Now i cant taste orange or grape without the throat doing that closing/ gag. The delsym is so nasty its got a gritty thickness to it. Blah. Eventually it completely stopped giving that "happiness of a child" feeling.... and just gave me a feeling of complete dread and anxiety so i stopped and havent taken any bn in about 6 or 7 years. I recently tried mushrooms and they didnt even work... just the feeeling of impending doom and weird geometric visuals of an outline if a woman holding a blooming lotus or water lily. After that i decided that i should stop because i most likely used up every little drop of serotonin left in my body so from now on its just psychedelic induced anxiety. And that isn't fun.... at all. 💝
I know exactly what you mean with that horrible emptiness and anxiety. The ONLY thing and i mean ONLY thing that filled the void and took away anxiety, insomnia, lust, anger, loneliness was when i literally cried out to God with my all of my strength and Jesus came to my heart and filled it with love - no joke. This was 18yrs ago. Used to be involved with organized crime. I’m from Medellin Colombia. Totally different human today and I thank God for it.
@@arealgem9404 I had a very different experience with the christian God. The self proclaimed father of all and the father of lies are one and the same. Your progress as a human is due to you alone, faith is a component of your own will. The change you've made is yours alone. All I can hope is that maybe one day as many of you 'good' Christians will one day see your scripture for the diabolical thing that it is and yet retain that mental fortitude that it afforded you. I wish only elevation and evolution for you folk.
I always thought i was the lone weirdo in that regards. One night, on x with all my friends but my night went differently. Everything slowed down, I started seeing the people I called friends and family for not just the persona they put out to the world but the bad too, like everything lit up and there was no dark shaded places to hide their true selves. My true self even. I had tried twice after that time to do some x however now that the lid were pulled back i could never close it shut again. It forever changed me and the way i saw people, the way i studied people and then in turn interact with them.
@@charlotteatewilbur8838 you should let the hate you carry in your heart go. You did not meet the “Christian God” as you state and the manner in which you speak shows it. My own will could not have been able to transform my heart.
32 years raving, 49 now and called it quits. Never went too hard but probably harder than many, always the last one out of the club, then the after parties. Now I keep really fit with walks, biking and reasonably healthy food. I only vape, even stopped alcohol. There’s a time to kick it and never look back. It had its place but you gotta move on.
I'm 47 in a few weeks and was lucky enough to be doing all this in the 90s. These days I still party and still have my E and Coke when I want it. I DJ and work in the music industry and it is everywhere from teenagers to retirees. Enjoy your life. You only get one.
@@richardwachs7539 You'd be surprised. I'd wager that most drugs aren't. You only hear about dirty batches, not the thousands of pounds of the batches that are great.
@@dundermiflin3523 yeah, you find them in Devorce court, On Jerry Springer, and in the Food stamp offices. This is the "Look good scene" they won't show ODs on vice.
@@on-the-rocks everything happens everywhere, but in general, partying in America is very low compared to other nations. it makes sense if you've ever been to the USA, in literally every city except new York, everything closes at 8pm
Ah no, to me he is a self punishing. Maybe as a child taught not to share how he feels or was punished for it. He seems numb and like a high functioning chronically depressed person.
@@bouncecat In the three minutes they spoke he revealed so much: - absent father - sent to an unsafe boarding school - by 11yo people had given him joints to smoke - poverty - loneliness - deep and romantic thinker, probably a highly sensitive person and imagine what he won't say because it is too much to reveal. poor guy.
As an ex-raver myself, 10+ years of raves and parties, having met young and old partiers, l say it's important to know when to hang it up, try out new things. Get into different social circles. Raves can be a huge rush, but it's easy to lose yourself in it. Of course, figuring out for yourself when is the proper amount of time will vary from person to person. Just remember though, whatever time you spent in it you won't get back.
my grandpa told me he was on speed for a week about a month ago and he is 84 Years old and been trough multiple strokes he is a mad man. Its a miracle he is alive. He has partied all his life and still does.
thats amazing. I stil score my old aunties crystal/coke sometimes when they like to get down. You know about 714's, then you know whatsup!! My Mum schooled me on those babies & black beauties, she actually found an old stash of them like ten yrs back - those ludes were still pretty good, she said. The way she describes it, I think they are kinda like doing K, maybe a bit mescaliney K.
Here in the US, nursing and assisted living homes, however you want to call them 65+ have high rates of drug use and std's. In fact the highest concentration of std infection in one age group
Sadly this is true. Our elderly, wanting to enjoy the end years, take risks. Risks they probably never took in their younger years. Foolishly having unprotected sex since pregnancy is no longer a concern for them.
My 20s I was hitting coke regularly. Now I’m 33 years old and I gave up that lifestyle about 3 years ago and started saving money, eventually I bought my own place. There’s no need to get twizzled every day or even every weekend go make something of your life. Make your loved ones proud.
I’m not surprised that most of them are still going. I feel like the main concerns with drug abuse are 1) what if the person dies too young or 2) their bodies decline so much that they can know longer function physically and/or mentally? Their drug abuse definitely isn’t something to be admired but all of the folks featured in this video have already lived this long and retained enough mental & motor capabilities to STILL enjoy these wild ass parties. Even if they died the next week, it could still be argued that they had long, pretty full lives before they went. So I honestly don’t blame them
The main problem with drug use and abuse is it's usually (almost always) a form of escapism. And as with everything in life, when you prioritise expedience and getting high and escapism instead of actually facing up to your issues, and the undertaking of voluntary responsibility, long-term you pay the price. Not just in terms of health (physical health), in fact much more importantly than that, you pay the price in terms of being nihilistic and goalless (which certainly affects your mental health). What an empty, pointless existence. You could put across the very vague and superficial argument of 'having a good time', but that's kind of meaningless and doesn't stand up to scrutiny. If you've ever done drugs or partied and then 'wised up', you'll realise it's all relative, it doesn't bring about any pleasure long-term. Only when it's in contrast to a more serious side of existence can it be worthy of inclusion in moderation. On it's own, it'd soon become not just chore-like, but dark and depressing. I can't help but think people like this, while putting a brave face on it for their own egos, are hiding from their dark demons. I'm not a naysayer, just a realist.
It ended when my body told me in Medellin Colombia, that I'm going to have a stroke if I keep doing this stuff. I listened and don't mess with it anymore. I was never addicted, but messed with it off and on since 1979
As an autistic with asd, lsd made my mind open up. I forgave myself and also came to understand peoples emotions and words much better on the drug than without. I was happy, so happy and I felt normal and full of love. I wont ever forget download 2018 🙏.
45 here, former rave producer and ocasionally DJing nowdays. One thing I miss for sure is the real good electronic music from 20 years ago and back, not the EDM popy tunes but the mental beats that really made you dance. Times changes, beats changes
I agree I used to rave back in early 2000s and the music was so different. I was into trance, old tiesto, armin, Paul oakenfold, PVD, etc. Don’t Larry like that anymore but those were some of my funnest times a a young adult.
WATCH MORE: From Medellin’s elite clubbers to the cartel queens that run the underworld, all of a sudden everyone in Colombia seems to be snorting pink “cocaine". - th-cam.com/video/VOjAlLoXOhQ/w-d-xo.html
this was a fun and informative watch, but y'all missed two devastatingly unhealthy drugs on the tables-- tobacco and alcohol
i watch this over week its a grate watch and the quees pretty hot
Tir Dhondy is beautiful 😍
The title sounds like an ominous peom
Funny I've had that years ago I forget why it's considered so good .THE FISHSCALE OH THAT MAKES Y STOMACH CRAMP AFTER 20 YRS
As an autistic, I went to an outdoor festival and took E. It was mind blowing - I saw, in slow motion, how people interact, communicate with body language, all the social clues were so obvious. I was able to look into people's eyes for the first time! I will never forget that experience
So cool to hear your experience 👌😃
Same. Though my Autism was undiagnosed then (42 now), rolling was the only time I felt "normal"; having the confidence and wherewithal to socialize in any setting with (almost) anyone while exercising full control over my body: facial expressions, gait; hell even my dancing wasn't half-bad sometimes.
It was empowering!
Unfortunately, the experience being irresistible and the appetite for more 'normality' insatiable, it became a habit indulged in too frequently, and there's a price to pay for saturating your brain with serotonin on a regular basis. Plus, the tabs themselves were becoming adulterated post-2002-ish and I ended up poisoning myself.
I no longer possess my once impressive faculty for math, and now speak haltingly when searching for words which once came so quickly and naturally to weave eloquent, if aspberger's-shaded diction.
But hey, I got a precious daughter out of the bargain. I wouldn't have met her mom had I not been partying.
Don't damage that beautiful brain of yours!
High addiction rates in people with undiagnosed autism and adhd . I've struggled my whole life because of exactly this . Hope your all good buddy
That could be a fascinating research study
@@stephenjemyers I was unaware of that fact, but it makes perfect sense. Self-medication for a maddening, mystery affliction none would identify for me - much less explain to me.
You understand. I appreciate the well wishes and sentiment, and hope you're doing alright yourself, man.
Taking it one day at a time here.
‘You can always take more.. but you can never take less’
‘Don’t be daft, start with a half’
Words to live by in this scene. Literally.
That black girl is having fun 0:14
If its magic mushrooms it's the opposite. The key is eating the right amount at once. Eating half a dose now and half a dose later is just the same as eating half a dose
then there was me QUAD DROP
@@irieite9666 I find the same thing with LSD just take the full tab dont take half wait 2 hours than take the other its just gonna extend your half trip
at this age you go better by: be smarter, take a quarter
I've been a drug addict my whole life, started sniffing airplane model glue in 1968, I was 8, followed by weed, of coarse alcohol, hash, acid, mescaline, shrooms, speed, cocaine, heroin, in about that order. It's the heroin that takes the most from you, I was a hard worker, a functioning addict, but again the heroin made it near impossible to keep steady control, it just consumes you, every thought is next hit, I'm 62 now, have no idea how I've survived the countless od's, on a suboxone program, it's saved me, although I still freebase cocaine, it's crack with the baking soda cooked out, brings cocaine back to it paste form basically, pure. Drugs have taken all from me, family, I'm completely isolated, I don't feel sorry for myself but I love my family and their not around. I never talk about this, I'm sorry to bore you if you've read this but I actually feels kinda freeing to print out my story. Good luck 🙏
Well done for admitting the truth, all the best to you buddy, you seem to be alive now and you've begun to respect your health to some extent, maybe you have a chance to make connections with other people one day soon, even if your family aren't around
Hey thanks for sharing. Sometimes it’s just a matter of reaching out and grabbing lunch more often. Wish you well sir 🙏
god bless
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. ❤ john 3:16
Hope you get help buddy. We all have our demons we try to work through and we’re only as good as our current moment. Praying for you
I was Daves neighbour, he died in December. he was a lovely bloke had his issues but was a good hearted guy that would go right out of his way for you if he liked you, half of the stuff said in this doc was exaggerated. RIP mate
Ahhh that’s sad
Rest in peace dave
Legend
RIP, did you know how he passed, did the drugs get him in the end?
@@jo18533he said he had throat cancer
@@jo18533 no poor guy got cancer, had a very brave battle but lost unfortunately
Gary’s the kind of guy if you were having an emotional one at a party he would halt his own fun to talk you back to smiling again. Or at the very least listen to you and offering sound advice. Best wishes for him x
I've needed folks like that on a couple of acid trips. I would just think of my friend Rob that was shot and killed and just kept crying it was odd, felt better afterwards though
He certainly is Danny, known him for 25 years, that's why they call him Papa Hard-core 😁 He us some buzz and the stories lol
Yes, agree! Over my raving years, I've met a number of Garys, especially on the gay scene. They're the characters who make the rave community so magic.
Yep. I’m a bit of a mom within our little Jamband scene. Everyone knows that I will always have an antacid, aspirin, ibuprofen, hand sanitizer, Kleenex Etc. I’m packin’ & I don’t bogart! 🤣
Nah, he'd just give you another line.
Gary seems like the sound mate who likes to have fun but also wants to make sure that everyone stays having fun and doesnt take it too far
More is better. Always.
Gary is straight up my uncle
Its call 'responsible drugs use' my dude :)
@@melaniecotterell8263 Wonder how your life is going lol
@@melaniecotterell8263 ur that dude at a rave who you can't even talk to cuz you're so off your head on e
I was a major DJ in Philly for over 20 years. I used to play at the huge clubs on Delaware Ave. At 40 on my birthday after going through an 8-ball, and watching my friends drop like flies I knew it was time to stop. Over 70% of my friends as well as my younger sister are now dead. A good friend of mine just died last week. Dont kid yourself. A functional drug user is still a drug user. All it takes is the wrong mix of coke and Fentanyl and youre done. Im turning 60 next month. Im happy and sad as I survived but most of my friends didnt.
Be happy my bro! Everyone has there time eh. At least it wasn't war and violence that took ya friends.
Fentanyl is an American issue
@@smellex1231 Was it not, though? 🤔
Die Alone.
I live out west now but shout out to that area. Even the palace skate ring. Wow
This girl is emotionally intelligent and was the perfect girl to do this report. Not patronizing or treating them like freaks and honest about her own experiences and concerns. I thought for sure after he said throat cancer he was going to get told off for smoking as it the typical crap that people spout (as if the person hasnt already heard about the link) but I was pleasantly surprised when she didnt do that, and treated him like an adult instead, who is making his own decisions.
I'd appreciate your comment.
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Right?? A true journalist. No matter how painful it might feel they must remember it's not their place to alter the environment or subjects they are reporting on
Very weird to glorify throat cancer and continued abuse like this
Emotion and intelligence are mutually exclusive.
“Dave lives in a nice house, in a quaint neighborhood and has been partying and using hard drugs for over 50 years. He must be a functioning and responsible drug addict…” (Camera spans to axe lodged in tv)
I thought I saw that! Then thought I was crazy and it must be a reflection 😆
@@missb9279 And the journalist also points it out and mentions it explicitly, so that's helpful.
I bet that house belonged to his parents.
@@sidneyboo9704 i bet your house belonged to someones parents
@@MrJkeegan until she bought it? Lol ya prolly 🤷🏼♂️🤨😂
I think she’s referring to his home being a paid for gift instead of him purchasing it lol
I'm 60. I still party like it's 1979. Just not every day like I used to. I think what people fail to understand is that you are who you are. Just because you're wearing an old man suit of skin doesn't really change much. We still dig the same stuff we did when we were teenagers.
Well said
True our bodies might age but we always stay young in the mindset!😜✌
Ok grandpa
F that I'm 71 out party all them dopers
Right on brother! 🤟
Opioid addiction actually destroyed my life. I started doing drugs 18 years ago as a teenage. Got addicted to opioid. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Was actually diagnosed with OCD. Not until my husband recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 3 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
Thanks for sharing your story. That's rough I sympathize. Save your health save your mind. Life is better without heroin, cocaine, alcohol and cigarettes. And you have more money in your pocket. God bless everyone who has rejected the devils intentions to be addicted to alcohol and cigarettes etc which can cause so much damage to health. I will pray for you all.
Can you help me with the reliable source 🙏. I'm 56 and have suffered for years with addiction, anxiety and severe ptsd, I got my panic attacks under control myself years ago and they have come back with a vengeance, I'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't get the full satisfying breath out, it's absolutely crippling me, i live in Germany. I don't know much about these mushrooms. Really need a reliable source!! Can't wait to get them
Hey! Yes sure of Predroshrooms
Where do I reach this dude? If possible can I find him on Google
Yes he's Predroshrooms. I know few friends who no longer suffer ptsd and anxiety with the help of shrooms. Never had to take shrooms after then.
Watching Dave gave me a bit of an anxious feeling. The bloke isn't a raver, he's a drug addict who uses to numb a lot of pain. I think he hides behind the jack the lad persona.. of course I could be completely wrong and I hope I am but something seems very off with him.
Totally agree. I saw this for the first time a couple of days ago and have watched it several times now. Dave is the person who affected me the most and I’ve thought about him a lot seen I first saw it. I thought I’d find it entertaining, seeing a fucked up old guy - which sounds bad in itself - but I just saw a lonely old guy that’s self-medicating to an extreme degree to numb some serious mental health issues. I know I sound OTT but, yeah, it got to me.
He is tweaking hard during this interview.. he denies it but it’s a fact
@@jerrywbrice he didn't want her to leave sad
A lot of ravers, festival goers, hippies, whatever labels people wanna give are also that. I have known thousands of people that find any excuse to go to any event in order to feel less guilty about their drug use. Myself included.
@@ryspace Have you graduated to needle yet,?
This is one of the problems with our ageist culture these days. It’s looked down on and like they’re tragic/pathetic to still do what they like(going to raves). In my eyes these older people are the real ones; they aren’t just doing it because they’re 22 and it’s the cool thing to do but because they’re truly into it.
I‘m not sure. I get your point but Dave does seem like a tragic person, an authentically tragic person though, a "real one"
well doing party drugs isn't really good for your heart and brain, sure your body can take it at 20, but at 40+ your doing serious damage to yourself
I think it's more about taking care of your health, like not eating meth.
The face says it all. For most of these people they lose the ability to feel good with a cup of coffee , A good movie , A romantic dinner , At the end of the day the brain and body is unable to settle for simple pleasures, Get it together there might be not much time left.
@@sharm999 people don't have to like the stuff you like. I never have found joy in a cup of coffee. 🤷
This lady is a fabulous interviewer. She’s a natural empath. So engaging and aware.
Ecstasy will do that. Trust this. You'll never meet a more sincere and connected interviewer than someone...anyone, whose molly just dropped. Also it will change your psychology to that effect for years after several uses.
She is a headcase judging people more than twice her age.
She’s obviously not shy to partying. When you’ve been around drugs and party’s you’ve seen the best and worst of people, nothing is suprising after that. You allow yourself to hear people’s story’s not just the cover.
this girl is a lost case, my friend, there is nothing intelligent about her, she has a burnt brain, a washed mentality... her soul is lost... she has no self... I can talk about her for centuries, but why should I waste my time on a stupid bit*h... stop it boy... get some help...she is already filthy in mind, spirit and body... why are she telling us how promiscuous she whas... dose she have any dignity towards herrself, principles, consideration, dose she value anything,dose she have any respect for herself... try meditate... I have AUDHD im 26 im never go to party my hole life or having sex becaouse im holly, pure im enlightehed... I dont whant to filth my self with you so calld people or this ''world''... I don't want to cooperate with people... it's the same as taking a painting from Picasso and throwing it among the pigs... I love and appreciate myself and my holy spirit too much...❤✌that is truu hapines and reality... inner pice, love, silencie... may light shine up on you my friend...
I raved for 10 years, stopped in my mid 30s. I have zero regrets, they were by far the best years of my life. I saw life from a different angle, where there was no stress or care in the world. Now I'm stuck in a dead end marriage with a narcassistic train wreck of a woman who makes my life a misery...if only I could turn back the clock.
Dam bro I'll learn from this
It’s never too late to do changes. I suggest you to see yourself from the perspective you would see you when you were young. What would your young self suggest you to do in that situation? We are always saying “oh if I could go back and talk to myself …” but what if your younger self could advise you instead? I wish you the best 😊
Never to late to make changes
Anything is possible. Go chase it
If its scary do it! Change is scary!
I love this woman - she's so professional and genuinely curious and respectful. Love to see it.
this girl is a lost case, my friend, there is nothing intelligent about her, she has a burnt brain, a washed mentality... her soul is lost... she has no self... I can talk about her for centuries, but why should I waste my time on a stupid bit*h... stop it boy... get some help...she is already filthy in mind, spirit and body... why are she telling us how promiscuous she whas... dose she have any dignity towards herrself, principles, consideration, dose she value anything,dose she have any respect for herself... try meditate... I have AUDHD im 26 im never go to party my hole life or having sex becaouse im holly, pure im enlightehed... I dont whant to filth my self with you so calld people or this ''world''... I don't want to cooperate with people... it's the same as taking a painting from Picasso and throwing it among the pigs... I love and appreciate myself and my holy spirit too much...❤✌that is truu hapines and reality... inner pice, love, silencie... may light shine up on you my friend..
I'm an ex-full-time partyer, been and done it all a thousand times over, now I'm an addictions counsellor. I'm not against drugs or drug taking, it'd be very hypocritical if I was. The important questions to answer for me is this: What are the most important things in your life? How are those things affected by your use?
If the answer is that the important things (relationships, job, kids, health, mental health etc) are being negatively affected then it's time to reevaluate. I can assure you that just because you stop using doesn't mean you stop living. I'm happier now than I ever was when I was using, and it's real.
You can have both, but hardly together, just sometimes these two worlds match at the same time.
That black girl is having fun 0:14
counsellor the worst
@@reggaefan2700 how many times are you going post this comment? Geez
@@MM-lo8dn Which one?
Garry truly is a rave scene legend, the guy is so down to earth and its a pleasure to now call him a good pal ... see you soon at Reunion Gaz ✌
what a sk !! (dw its a compliment :))
Lmao okay weirdo
@@nachospopthe3rd564 aye very good🙄
So you plan to waste your life just for pleasure?
@@JosephStalin-yk2hd let people enjoy things. It's their life.
"Every leaf on every tree has a meaning."
-"Maybe the mdma has kicked in."
Classic...
Rolling 💯 10 deep????
"Were the drugs a part of the biker life?"
"no, boarding school."
way too accurate for most people XD
Moderation is key! Gary has the right idea and saw he was drinking water through the day/night so a plus. Raving at that age looks like great opportunity for exercise for physical health and the social interactions at these events must be great for mental health as well. From what I see, keep on keeping on Gary!
Dancing is exercise and keeps you young. Also movement is treatment for arthritis. I wouldn’t continue using drugs though…at some point you just become good at it, and no longer need “performance enhancers”…
Literally the only healthy thing is moving around. These dudes are doing drugs, and staying up all night. How is that the right idea?
All I can say is that if he's truly happy, then so be it, but if he actually wants to keep living he needs to at least subtract the drugs from the raving.
You literally have no clue what being healthy is do you? Jesus.
Maybe if he's sober. He just said his friend just died from raving so.....
Exactly
This gives me hope. I'm 27 and depression has caused me to miss out so much on life. I hope someday I can rave in my 30s, 40s, and 50s and have a good time, even if I break my hip doing so.
Bro I literally started being a raver when I was around that age. You got time.
As long as you're cool and understand the culture people will be cool to you.
The only time I saw someone who was older who was shunned was this dude who was obviously there just to pick up girls and didn't know anything about rave scene culture. Stuck out like a sore thumb.
Start with the artists you really really love and go to those shows and make friends from there. It'll be easier that way because you'll have a good reason to be there: You're going to see one of your favorite artists. 🤷 Also festival culture is great immersion too.
So yeah, go for the music and everything else will kinda fall into place. If LOVE EDM I think you'll find a group of people as excited about it as you are. Everything else with like drug culture is just a side show to the main event.
Hey bud I was there as well. What I can tell you that helped to me was positive affirmations to myself in the mirror and you HAVE TO ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT. Do this time and time again my friend until you feel it. This also helped my internal thoughts. Peter life is for our experience, love yourself and try and find what you enjoy.
I go to raves a lot and I can tell you the amount of 30 y.os that are still partying is huge, so you still have time.
Former junkie checking in. My late teens were spent on lsd and molly then when I was 23 I got into dope and crack stayed on that train till about 29 when I got off methadone. Immediately went back to molly, acid, ketamine, nitrous, weed... still going at 35 and my life is infinitely better now than then.
In all aspects. My health is better my social circles are not all about drugs, though we do them, and I have all the trappings of an adult existence but still feel like im young. You can do it if you want.
Look into microdosing psilocybin ( mushrooms) if your depression is really bad.
"There's an axe in the TV" "It was too loud, I wanted it quieter" 😂😂😂
That made me laugh hella lmfao
Psychedelics are just an amazing discovery. It's quite fascinating how effective they are for depression and stress..saved my life.
Psychedelics definitely have potential to deal with health issues like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them but it's just hard to source out here.
I'm feeling the same way too. I put so much on my plate and it definitelv affects mv stress and anxietv levels
I was having this constant and unbearable anxiety because of university stress. Not until I came across Ted Winston, a very intelligent mycologist, He saved my life honestly.
Is he on insta ?
HE’S MOSTLY ON INSTA , USING THE USERNAME
I was early raver back in my late twenties and it carried on till I found myself addicted I'm grateful now that I am clean and sober one day and a time.
I hope Dave’s ok he seems like a genuine guy.
He never was ok.
But yes he is genuine.
Dave is like a british Hunter S. Thompson
@@nataliezementbeisser1492 Within about 10s of his appearance, I knew I'd met at least 10 people that are so similar to him they'd get on like a house on fire
He's fu@king dehydrated is what he is !! Old skool Bristol legend :-)
Who's Dave !?
I love these kinds of documentaries. I think the real problem is not that they are still at the party’s but that people think going out and having fun isn’t something you should do when you are older and people expect you to act more „responsible“. I think there is nothing irresponsible in partying and having fun, especially if you do it like Gary with lots of experience and caution.
It quite the opposite people think going out doing drugs and drinks is the definition of fun
Dude theres not a lot of old drug users for a reason...
Thank you! Why is this even a topic!? Life doesn't stop until your dead! The obsession with age and growing old...is absolutely absurd, considering its a part of LIFE
@@STOPLISTENANDTHINK most people who don't live responsibly also have extremely miserable lives. And as someone who's brother tried coping with life by doing drugs that killed him before he turned 18, I think these people are idiots because drugs are one of the dumbest and most easily avoided ways of dying.
You can have fun without destroying yourself
@@tylerandleahcanadian3888 Britain is full of them u crank
The morning after the party with no sleep. You get to a point you don’t want to be around anyone. Your dopamine is gone.
"a little dab o' speed" can not get the image of Spud getting ready for his job interview, out of my head. Great vid cheers.
MAN ALIVE this vid keeps on giving "does it worry you seeing that amount of cocain on the table?".... it should.
choose life 😊
Speed goes a long way mending a truly broken heart...
I'm 28 and my parents are 63 and 56, I can't keep up with them. Dad DJs at clubs and underground raves every weekend, Mum is there as his No.1 groupie. Most awesome parents ever!
*most absent parents ever
@@janu4rymusic He's 28. Not 12.
Are your elderly parents doing drugs?
@@larryc1616 He didn't say they were doing drugs. If you count alcohol as a drug, the answer is yes.
@@vinstinct that's why I'm asking him because I don't know and he didn't say. But how would you know?🤔
I’m 50 this year. I can still drop a good 3 deck mix. And even tho I’m arthritic I can still cut a back to back windmill. But sometimes I do get emotional when listening to the old school vibes I do miss the chaos and laughter. One love to all be kind to each other.👏👏👏🇬🇧
❤
🤗😎❤️
Sound. Fellow arthritic DJ
OMG I just turned 60 and have no children and I still LOVE psychedelics and ecstasy and club music! These are my people!!!!
After decades of recreational and psychedelic drug use there is one thing old dude is forgetting; you have to feed the body nutrients and vitamins with proper rest intervals to feel the drugs.
Otherwise you're just chasing the day-glow DRAGON.
True that
Very true
Perhaps that's why 65 is not only his age, it's his current weight.
☝🏼True here- age is import but physical mental spiritual health goes a long way to enjoying life post 50. I'm 56, in amazing health and my life pretty much rules. After decades of chemical abuse, I'm feeling pretty much right on...
Yeah I don't think it really matters if you're a serious drug user; you can eat healthy all you want but if you're taking heroin all day long it's not going to matter much.
"When Gary's at the rave you things are alright. "
We could use more folks like him around.
Yup got me wanting to go now 🤣
Hit me up😆 bring me some extras though. 44yrs strong
@@chrisw5150 I’m with you let’s go bro
That black girl is having fun 0:14
@@reggaefan2700 lmaoooo
I'm 67, still teaching high school, traveling. I partied very hard until it wasn't fun anymore. Getting sober (alcohol, prescription pills) in 2013 sort of shifted things for me. No regrets! I have no problem with people my age partying; it just isn't my thing anymore.
thats the best and easiest way to quit i find, i quit weed and alcohol that way when it just wasn't fun anymore, smoking is the only thing i struggle with quitting, but i have never been a huge smoker, no more than 8-10 a day and i can get by on 4 a day without much issue, but totally quitting is hard and most of the issue comes from boredom and habit and not addiction, i spent 5 days in hospital a few years ago and they gave me a nicotine patch the first day and i never asked for another after that one, i found it didnt make me feel any better and i didnt feel any worse without it, but i was distracted the whole time i was there, boredom has been the source of almost all my desires through life to consume drugs, part of it was also depression when i was younger but i got over that when i found out i had ADHD and that was what was causing my despression since it took away my ability to focus and also my energy.
Eventually the “no hangovers” turn into a total suck-ass the next day..
Then the hangover eventually graduates from Masters to a PHD and lasts at least 3 days. Including extreme, debilitating exhaustion.
For some of us, after so many morning-afters feeling completely worthless, stripped of dopamine & serotonin - you eventually make the decision that it’s just NOT WORTH IT anymore 😂
As someone who partied for a living for many years, it’s fun until it’s not and then it’s fun again.
There’s just an emptiness that comes with it in the early hours of the morning when the birds are chirping and the Sunday joggers have come out, that can’t be explained to anybody who hasn’t experienced it.
Yeeesss. I remember leaving parties at the same time people were going to work realizing that day was screwed and the come down sucked.
This is the content I come to TH-cam for. Fantastic.
Get a life !
dave is a tragic character but you can tell he is a good guy who has had a hard time. drugs become a way of coping for many. me included.
Spelled "badass" wrong . Tragically hip maybe 😎
And that approach never ends well
@@KatJ3st beats being a sober pain in the arse 🤣
@@longdong3889 this
@@longdong3889 i didnt mean tragic as to be offensive, it was more from an angle of pity
I'm 61 and my husband is 64. We went to a party just last night. we had a blast! But we're not into the raves or drugs. Hubby quit smoking mj just 2 years ago. Funnily enough, right when it became legal in Canada. But we're not ready to sit in rocking chairs on the porch, and we hope to never grow tired of having fun. We don't feel like grown-ups, and we're still waiting on that. My mother is 86, and she drives a big pickup, and goes camping all summer by herself. She still enjoys life too, and I hope to live as long and as happily as her!
Yeah, but my point is here that everyone quits partying in their late 20s not just because of raising kids and leading careers, but because they're physically unable to handle it. Chubbyemu intro music starts playing otherwise. You can enjoy life more thoroughly sober ultimately.
@@pandemicneetbux2110 bless you your mother and your husband
I think there are plenty of serious minded teens with Aspergers who study hard and work hard and want to make a contribution to society except they're lonely and not allowed into that society. They watch as other people have fun and joke and go out on weekends, they watch with envy the beautiful girls among those groups of fun people. And they have no idea how to be part of that, how to have fun laughing beautiful friends like that. They think maybe if I study harder and work harder and make more money they will accept me.
Definitely can party w/o drugs. Enjoy!😃
@@hufficag I'd addendum to that, that it's disastrous for them or anyone frankly aspergers or not to think that doing drugs to be "cool" when it's a stupid idea that'll leave you surrounded by people who aren't really your friends. If you want to test this, go two months without seeing your drinking buddies and see how things change with you being sober and them not. Their lives revolve around substance abuse, not each other, it's just they abuse substances in the same spot. It's one of the most horrible ideas that a smart kid could ruin themselves just to hang out with people that are actually uncool and bydlo and wreck their health and mind in the process.
Ive been so many british festivals and met loads of heads like this. Absolute salt of the earth. Im 30 now and have effectively retired apart from the occasional rave every few years, but i have so many amazing life changing memories. some things are better to quit while youre ahead ❤
I remember taking a 4 year tolerance break off of all substances that I took on regular basis and it was one of the best things I ever did, now I always moderate and test all my drugs, I will never bender again.
Yes. Testing is so important now. I got some MDMA that had synthetic fentanyl cut into it. If I had taken it, I may be dead. My friend too.
@@tibicenlinnei4014 I have reagent kits but how did you know about the fentanyl, what did you use to test it
Absolutely under control I love that
@@Kaiyats you can buy test strips specifically for testing for fentanyl. Its being cut into allsorts these days sadly so itd be worth getting some, i bet mac miller wishes hed used one!
@@tibicenlinnei4014 fent is the worst drug ever. Kills you easy, waaaay more potent then heroin with less euphoria, shorter acting time and more death. Stupid drug!
Damn. "Maybe your a bit sad?"
"I have no idea, i wouln't allow myself to think it."
That hit home. That was kinda me 2-3 years ago, just numbing everything away but goddamn does life get boring if u do this.
Glad I got away from that mindset and sad that Dave (and for sure many other people) have lived their whole life like that.
There's always something to be sad about. If you're just gonna be sad unless things are perfect, you'll always be sad.
This seems like a way better way to age than what I see in my daily life. Fat immobile, bitter yelling at the TV, wasting away in a casino. I found it rather sweet.
Its all about where you are living. I miss living in the UK because the night life scene was so good.
Well Dave did put an axe through his tv lol
go rip some lines of ket pops, like is too short to worry about "what if."
Those aren't the only two options....
Go to a gym, get into a martial art. Study. Improve yourself.
If you are 60/70/80 and going to Raves, taking drugs and enjoying life, who’s to say that the “dangers” even matter, at that point in life one has lived a full lifetime and if they perish doing something they love then is it even wrong? I say regardless of the negative impacts that these ppl are very aware of, they are happy, they are living exciting lives instead of just getting old and dying from old age! I support this 💯, especially bc I myself am a lifetime raver, I started in 1995, almost 30yrs ago! I love this!
I'm 72 and fully agree with what you say.
@alicewolfson4423 same age here and riding my KTM Duke to raves and rock festivals where I get more stoned than when I was young and a hippy in the times of sex, drugs and rock&roll. Of course, I'm not crazy, so, for instance, I eat space cookies instead of smoking joints, and I never begin with coke, although I usually have a bit for later in the night. My preferred drugs are pot, MDMA, DMT, acid when available, and coke, although not much, like a couple of grams for a week long rave like the Boom.
I certainly know that any day in one of my 6 to 12 hours dancing, I can have an heart attack or whatever, but that would be *good*, nor bad for me, as I don't want to end like a vegetable in a parking for old farts. 😀
And what a compliment when youngsters tell me that they want to be like me when they get old. 😊
Not exactly disagreeing but also 60 is not that old, you could still have 40 years left
@@ohno-wi1vb absolutely true; I don’t condone hardcore drug use I am just saying for raves and party drugs like hallucinogenic type etc
As a 65 year old myself who still engages in a party lifestyle, I understand each of these people. At this moment I'm limiting my intake to Suboxone and cannabis. Being an ex heroin addict I've put my body through quite a bit of turmoil in the past. My message to other people in my situation is simply cut out the heavy narcotics and medicate with cannabis. Stay strong.
I'm 34 I'm a recovering fentynal addict. Subvoxen and cannabis saved my life. I too have put my body thru hell but I learned your body is very resilient. I damaged my body so much but I watched it slowly heal its self. It can be done
I'm 40 and same I was on herion for 20 plus years suboxon and weed did the trick for me to been clean 6 years now
Same here
Subutex & thc is criticalll for my recovery! Which is also from herion/fentanyl.
*** BUT, this doesn't work for everyyybody. *** BUT, it has saved millions of lives! Some people are unable to use marijuana in a medicinal way.
I suggest to anyone to find what works for you,b& fucking run with it! Stick with it! No matter what
45 Here...was a heroin addict for 20 years or so. Now on MAT and lifesaving cannabis. Perhaps some psilocybin once or twice a year to reset a bit and gain a different perspective. Kudos to everyone here - we are winning the battle!
" You can always add on, you cant take off "
That's advice I've always told to others and is 100% true.
Also to add to that, you should always respect any substance you choose to do, otherwise it'll do you and that's never good.
You should always do the drug, not let the drug do you.
If you choose to dance with the demons, You better respect the devil or they will deliver you to him.
I'm not english, what exactly does that sentence actually mean?
When i use to use in younger days,I use to say use and dont abuse,But never took my own advice...lol I dont miss it,life is better sober.
@@skystonestonesky2227 nothing because demons and the devil are all the same thing. The devil is just a demon with a higher rank
@Harry Davey there is always one guy....
@Harry Daveyits it's like telling people to just not have sex if they dont wanna get pregnant, people are gonna have sex , so just teach them how to do it safely
I wish more Vice bits were like this; just deliver the unvarnished subject, as objectively as possible. Well done, this.
There's an axe in the TV.
this girl just got paid to hang out with old ravers. Sign me up!
as a young men (22) I’ve met a lot old raver’s who were safely doing drugs, i always found them kind & inspirational
What scares me most about the scene today is the prevalence of fentanyl in street drugs, especially where I live. It's sooo easy to mix the drugs wrong, leaving "hot spots" in a batch no matter how hard you try. When the difference between life and death is literally the weight of a grain of rice, you can see how easy it is to overdose.
And don't get me going on bogus psychedelics. What we used to call "dirty acid" turned out to be totally different compounds. It's a crazy world we live in!!
Yup I remember dirty L
Gotta go to dance safe. Com & get your testers.
NBoMe hasn't been around for many years now. LSD is super easy to get and there are actually a lot of fantastic rc psychedelics around these days (4 substituted tryptamines, 1p-lsd/al-lad etc) that you can just order legally on the internet. Really easy to get proper psychedelics. Just test your stuff. Always got my stuff on the darknet and never received something other than what I ordered.
@@McFwoupson respect, I really wanna start using the dark net for that kinda stuff but don’t know much about it.
Fentanyl the size of a grain of rice can kill 10 folks with zero tolerance
"Dark-web" - "instergram" practically the same thing but a lot if scanners too, calling it the "new scammers boom"
"Dave needs a joint, so we're heading outside".
Dave the fucking legend.
I feel a bit sorry for him
@@getthepicture1000 same.. Not allowing himself to feel anything, at all..
@@InnerPeaceBeauty fried from using way too much mdma way too often. aka your average british drug user lol
@@InnerPeaceBeauty I too feel sorry for the guy, the contrast between Gary and Dave was massive. Gary was together and moderated "you can always add on you can't take off" I could have done with him in my day. He was happy, healthy, chatty and social.
Dave struck a very isolated figure, you can't say he looked healthy all he was doing was consuming I question if he could stop without help.
Even when they went out it looked so depressing and isolated he couldn't make eye contact with her as she interviewed him, just staring straight ahead. When she began to ask about potential trauma he began to rub his left hand and move it about. I know those movements from my own experiences, he looked like he was having a freak out and was feeling it in his left arm, which could mean he was feeling like he was having heart problems. Of course I could be projecting but it brought me back to my last days i felt that panic again and my heart went out to him in that clip.
I worry for him, a lot.
I've been to Bristol a lot, its an amazing city but I'm glad I never lived there. I'd have definetly lost myself there.
I used to rave in the 90s.Im 45 stop 20 years ago. No one talks about the depression from all the drug use and all the serotonin that was stolen it does build up slowly but you're never quite the same.
That’s why people won’t stop. You don’t face that depression fully until you do. But it slowly gets worse with each bump.
It's true for me
yea definitely true when I was rav’n every weekends taking E. It really put me in a slump during the week. That’s when I started taking 1.5/2.0 grams of 🍄 and it was so much better to Rave on as it felt natural and clean.
SAM-e my friend, start taking that supplement. Or rather, look into it first. It's a damn shame things like this aren't prescribed by docs. It's a natural substance in your body that can be built back up easily
That's why you take 5htp and NAC
This journalist is good. She goes in open minded and doesn’t judge the people she is interviewing like some of vice other hosts
I was thinking the same thing. I like her accent. I'd love to meet her. She's my kind of lady for sure. easy going non judgmental. Kool chick. Hard to find Josh.
41, professional dj, and still party every weekend. Be safe and moderate what you put in your body. Only you are responsible for yourself.
There’s no age restriction when it comes to having fun.
46, Been raving since the 90s still hit a 2-3 events every summer. Much more moderate these days, but..............
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
41 ain't old
I'm curious what your opinion would be on a song called "Anax" it's an edm song but it slowly ramps up the beats until it's pretty sick in my opinion. Always made me go crazy but I'm sure you'd say it's garbage. These dudes are into a totally different kind of music lol
No age restriction to having? Might wanna edit that
Man how cool would a British friend be
Now Dave is the epitome of Dave the Rave… in both the positive and negative aspects. I really hope he’s doing well as I write this. He seems like a very genuine and earnest kind spirit. Big up Dave!
I can’t help but love Dave! Wish him all the best!
he needs to grow up
@@6AlphaMikeCharlie9 You can be an adult without being boring though
@@merlin9702 hes not acting like an adult at all
@@6AlphaMikeCharlie9on about grow up u got 69 in ur name 🤦♂️
It's nice to see older people that are still having fun. I've never been big on parties, even in college, but do what makes you happy as long as it doesn't harm others.
I miss those days. Maybe I should visit Britain.
@@GeoffRosenstein they were f**king bangin'! I miss them so much...48yo and want back in 🤩🤩
Me and my buddies used to get wrecked and beat the hell out of each other with sticks. It was so much fun!! I I went to a rave twice and seemed like everyone was huffing vapo rub and there was always a group writhing around on the floor in the corner. I went straight back to riverbank stickfights after that.
VICE needs to do a documentary on all the STIs going around old folks' homes. I'm not kidding. It's actually one of the hugest growth centers for sexually transmitted disease.
@@longdong3889 lol us too
" I dont feel boredom or loneliness , that's a state of mind " spoken like a true addict
Dave is every old drug addict/alcoholic in every neighborhood bar, probably depressed, lonely, and keeping his demons at bay by never being straight. I've been there, done that, and I'm glad I don't have to live like that anymore. But you have to have something left to live for, and most of these people have no lives to speak of other than their party friends, who really aren't their friends. Sad as hell really.
yeah that seemed pretty apparent, he doesn't exactly have peers his own age just the young people partying
This situation is the same across all elements of society. Drugs don’t necessarily have to be a part of it. Suicides in Japan are very high for this reason. I know the way I would prefer to go out. Loneliness is endemic!
Totally pathetic. Grow up & act your age. Like a big high kid. Using drugs to hide from life, telling others to use in moderation? Gross & dangerous. Prob go after 20 yr olds too😐
What are doing men of his age ?
Looking at tv all day, fishing ?
I don't know, it must be very boring...
@@grifyn882hey I’m 28 and love fishing, it’s a thing where if you don’t catch any fish at least you had a good time with nature
You've interviewed an older raver of a similar age and mindset to myself who still likes to party and take a few drugs now and then, alongside two chronic drug addicts. The first is one of many people of my generation who still like to party from time to time. The second and third are part of a dying (literally) tradition of chronic drug abuse and most of us older ravers would see them as having little in common with us beyond being a scary example of what we could have become had we not taken a step back at some point in our lives.
That is very well said
Fr. Im sitting here anxious from my 1/3rd addedall prescription. Forgot i used to live this rave life from 15 - 19 years old lmao. And im only 25. Old dudes rolling off a half gram and blow… nah i aint worried about my measly baby prescription anymore 💀
ravers are pathetic no matter the age or circumstance.
@@oldemonteef hahaaa, ain’t you all high and mighty…
@Juana Basurto lol im sure this dude whos raved a ton has tried shrooms man. who hasnt really. enjoy the start to your journey.
Everything in moderation.. I'm now 43 and still goin strong and healthy.. I'm off to ibiza next week oi oi rave till the grave ❤️
Damn I want to go to Ibiza .. enjoy my friend
@@dynochronlock I will brother I'll drop for all 😁🙈
Have fun!
I went last month. I'm 48 and still miss space.
Drop one for me mate (48 yo who misses the best times)!! Have an absolute sesh 😍😍🤩🤩😛😛
The rave scene in the US is a lot more niche than in the UK, but I’ve seen one of these guys. He’s always having a blast in the pit. All power to him, I’d say. We all gotta go down someday, might as well go down swinging.
I went to my first rave back in 1997. I was 16 around that time. Now im 42 and still going to underground raves. I will be the last man standing. To be a junky or enjoying the life is a huge difference. Im a project manager and never skip a day off work 👊
Same. I never skip a day of work and simply enjoy the community that raves bring together. I'm a Radiologic Technologist. As long as you take care of business, you should be able to do whatever you want.
Fine line
@@patrickharris5917 so true. I've heard this from so many who started off saying the same things...they think they can control it, they still are responsible and work. Years later I see them full blown junkies who've lost everything.
I've never missed a day of school and now work. I've never let my partying get in the way of my work.
"Where are you from that "Raves" still exist????"
Your boss knows.
Garry is awesome, there is nothing wrong with going to raves as a senior, though I do think that there comes a point where you need to draw a line on the substance that you take. Your body does degrade over time after all. But then again everyone is different, some can handle it, others can't. But keep on raving Garry. What a legend
i love the IA pfp bro
He’s a loser
Getting older means slowing down. ...... so stimulants get more appealing but so does sleep 😊
Shouldn't do it when you're old. It'll shorten your life!
Your body gets immune to substances the longer you do it and you can't get the same feeling without it adversely affecting your life and health. They all have a shelf life.
I used to do drugs all day and all night for years. It sucked stopping and I went through a 2 to 3 year long depression after I stopped but I can honestly say things have gotten much better since then. I am actually very proud that I can now go to parties and shows without feeling pressured to do drugs in the slightest though I'd be lying if I said I never felt at all tempted but with time it has only gotten easier and easier to thew point where I honestly don't even think about it anymore and can finally start focusing on things that actually matter in life.
I think it's a lot harder for many regular drug users just for the depression that follows. Well done!
Respect bro
💯 man, ?, How'd you beat that long two, three year depression?? Currently going through it now and excercise seems to be it..
I'm in the same place dude. The worst thing was the brain fog for about three months after I stopped. I genuinely thought that that I had lost most of my brain's cognitive function - like the most I could achieve is a shelf stacker at a supermarket. It was the worst depressive state I've ever been in. Five years later I'm a Marketing Director with all the opportunities I could dream of.
Life is so much better without the heavy session.
It's nice when it happens like this, I think getting a little older could have some perks. I feel like I'm getting closer to that point. I feel like going to the store now. But for 2 24oz beers not 3 40s like my younger years
"Abstinence is not the answer. Education and moderation are the must." Perry Farrel
One-size-fits-all answers are not the answer. To each their own!
I've just been through rehab for drugs and alcohol I've destroyed everything good in my life. I'm 34 been an addict since 13. I urge anyone who thinks it's a problem to seek help. Don't want anyone to lose and destroy life like I have
Me too, similar story. Good luck with your sobriety. I'm watching this and thinking what a way to keep living. Drugs and me means destruction like jumping off buildings etc. Keep pressing on with your sobriety.
I don't know you, but I'm proud of you.. You're still young, please don't think you've wasted it all.. Think of it like your 20s were the fun years, 30s are the practice years where we figure it all out and the 40 and beyond is enjoying it all.. You've got this!!
I'm 34 I was an addict for over 7 years. I have a year sober and what sucks the most is realizing how far behind in life u are from your peers. I have a lot of making up to so but it's well worth it.
I’m proud of you for getting help. Don’t feel like you’ve destroyed your life - you’ve got a lot of years left to leave clean and healthy and fix things! ♥️
Bless you all for kind words. I'm 60days clean now. So have chance to rebuild .the party stopped being fun for me a long time ago. AA and rehab have saved my life
This was awesome to watch. I grew up in the scene. 13 yrs old at my first rave. I’m 34 yrs young now and haven’t been to a rave in 15yrs or so. Seeing people going strong and living their lives in inspiring. Tons of love to all of u! PLUR ❤️
Right on man im 30 but still look like im 19 lol everytime I buy alcohol they still try to test me thinking I have a fake ID then look at me like im crazy when they see im actually 30 and I still feel young well I have always been a late bloomer I even still played with toys when I was a teenager lol.
So you raved from 13 to 19? That’s pretty lame
So you're 34 and havent raved for 15 years?? Uhhhmmm ok
That's was a wild tale for attention. Seems like people caught on to the bs early. These comment sections are full of people like these.
I started raving at 29 back in 92.
As someone who once upon a time lived this life for far more than a decade, I got bored of it after many many enjoyable years that definitely had an impact on my life and my sobriety. It’s definitely a part of my life that was the most fun and exciting, with long-standing friendships with some excellent excellent humans that spans across the world. Most of them are either still active in a more measured way or it’s still their lifestyle. Even fewer, like me, choose sobriety and while I love me a bangin sunrise set when I get the chance, I’m nourishing my soul in more sustainable ways that work for me. I still love to find new EM, and chase the bass, that will always remain. 🎵
Spot on. I've sobered up at 41 years old. I don't drink or smoke weed anymore. I miss the life but am not going back.
Aww this girl is adorable. She's just so chill and comfortable talking. I think she's the real Rockstar in this. When I drink or do stuff I feel like it's to try to be this comfortable in my own skin.
She's an incredible interviewer, no judgement, just an empathetic and attentive observer.
I am a former partier who’s been sober for double digits and partied at underground raves in the 90s. Our bodies, particularly our brains, are not impervious to damage. For example I hardly remember anything that happened from the years when I smoked weed all the time, like when me and my bff first clicked, stuff like that. Also when I later confronted my Deeper emotional issues in therapy, I almost immediately stopped clicking with people in the scene. It’s fundamentally escapism, and as long as you don’t want to confront how you really feel you will enjoy partying and doing drugs, which as she said is your choice, but there are long term consequences.
Quoting Wyatt Earp in tombstone “there’s no money in it”
Damn that was good kirsten.
So money is now your doc?
I definitely click with this
spot on
'as long as you don’t want to confront how you really feel you will enjoy partying and doing drugs.'
This. so much this.
An old man once said he had spent 95% of his money on wine, woman, and song. When asked what he spent the other 5% on. He laughed and said “Oh geez, I wasted that!
W C Fields!
"There's an axe in the TV!"
"It was too loud. I wanted it quieter." 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀💀
It’s amazing how fragile the human body is, and how durable it is at the same time. This lot make me feel soft at 26!
Like a pot plant!
What ? They are walking pathetic corpses. Physically and mentally weak and ill
Had that "moderation awareness" phase for the very first time on a forest psy party last month. I got a couple of different E pills and out of curiosity I looked them up on a pill database. Both of them seemed to be supercharged with mdma, a much higher dose than normal so I split them in 3 portions and took 1/3rd per hour. I ended up just getting a nice energy boost everytime , got throughout the night enjoying the forest and the sets and went back home the other morning with a smooth comedown and a big smile over how nice that night was. Best thing ever.
So wack
when i was 19-24 in 1998-2003 i would buy a 10 stack of X for the weekend and had a time based routine..always did the samething.. always strtd off w half a pill..and then every 1-2 hrs another half at a time for up to 6 hrs MAX..then after my 6 hr alarm went off no more X until come down. Then one last halfer and a joint of some good weed to set the mood for end of the night w headphones and trance music..
(ALWAYS PAUL OAKENFOLD) OMFG WHAT An END OF THE NIGHT RIDE THAT WAS! Always knew when to says stop tho never over did anything .plus can only do so much b4 it's a waste of $ & X
.😑😊🤩🥳🥴😵💫🤤😪😴
If you took the whole thing at once you think it would have hit you too hard?
Many pills have anything up tp 0.3g of md in these days, too much for many if not most all at once
@@davecroft It's more a matter of higher dosage than substances they use to cut them?
It's so lovely reading the comments from an older generation still so young at heart. Hopefully my generation when it reaches this age will have a lot more kindred spirits to dance with :) x
This documentary also doesn't show the side of raving, EDM and dance culture that stays mostly sober. I've been enjoying festivals, dance parties, edm shows etc. for over a decade completely sober and never having more fun. It also provides me with tons of cardiovascular exercise and peace of mind I wouldn't be experiencing otherwise which I credit to looking like I'm teenager despite being over 30.
Wait where do I find these people ! I also go to shows sober
It's vice. I'm sure an outlet exists that would be into that. I'll bet lots of people are sober tho. Drugs aren't for everyone music usually is
Yeah that’s more for chicks lol
Worked with a sound guy at a music venue who was like 60 and smashed the speed every gig he worked. We were all like 25 and kind of in awe of him 🤣
You should feel sad for him.
Didn’t realise people still did speed
@@thelittlesthobo7100
You didn't realize people still did meth?
@@mykull666 people don’t realize speed is meth lol
@@RTFMhvac people don't realise speed is amphetamine in the eu/uk. It is very different to methamphetamine in terms of how damaging it is.
Gary is a beautiful soul. Much love to all of these crazy bastards, I hope they stay safe and fulfilled.
Maybe u can get up with these wonderful souls and drain their hose's and get Gary fully fulfilled.
@@wildestcowboy2668 are you ok?
@@imonahorse that boy high af
@@justme2946 Higher than a MF but statin FACTS bone! U be safe playa.
Best way they can do that is to stop abusing these drugs. Nothing inherently wrong with the drugs, nor even the consumption of them, just the people using them in this setting. This isn't good or badass or respectable. They're just junkies. Nothing special, just people who have no self control. Don't glorify this behavior. This is a bad way to take drugs. Pure stupidity.
The chick interviewing comes across as a genuinely kind human. Enjoyed everyone good luck to all and by the way dying in your sleep is that bad, I know I have done it ❤️
Yeah she seems kinda fun and cool. Not prejudiced against the old guys.
She's cute
THEN WHO IS PHONE
She openly allowed and viewed drug use! She is responsible!!
@@loolfactorie looniefactorie
Dave reminds me of my dad. Old school bikers had a different mindset. Saw a comment he passed. Rip mate x
I used to got to alot of parties between 2005 and 2009 and I also took alot of drugs in private settings. Aside from smoking weed, I used to love and I mean LOVE ecstasy. I was also very into acid and mushrooms. A problem started to come along when I could not get high on ecstasy without feeling the comedown even during the high. I just could'nt do it without that horrible feeling creeping in almost instantly. The comedowns started lasting weeks and I had started getting sleep paralysis. I tried it again a few times in 2015 but the comedowns were too much for me.
As for psychedelics I had to stop that too. After I had a sort of out of body experience I began feeling I was starting to "know too much" and it really scared me. It's probably for the best I stopped but I do miss those 4 years before it went pear shaped. One thing I don't miss is that feeling when you are laid in bed the "morning" after, absolutely exhausted but unable to sleep with only that horrible feeling of emptiness and anxiety for company. Unfortunately for me it's definitely not worth it any more.
I had that same feeling after years of taking ccc or coricidin cough and cold. I was having to take 32 at a time twice a day to feel anything and eventually just the taste of the outside coating of that pill would make my throat try to close up when i would try and swallow them. I moved to delsym because of that and was measuring out teaspoons to equal 32 of them because each spoonful is the same as 1 pill. Now i cant taste orange or grape without the throat doing that closing/ gag. The delsym is so nasty its got a gritty thickness to it. Blah. Eventually it completely stopped giving that "happiness of a child" feeling.... and just gave me a feeling of complete dread and anxiety so i stopped and havent taken any bn in about 6 or 7 years. I recently tried mushrooms and they didnt even work... just the feeeling of impending doom and weird geometric visuals of an outline if a woman holding a blooming lotus or water lily. After that i decided that i should stop because i most likely used up every little drop of serotonin left in my body so from now on its just psychedelic induced anxiety. And that isn't fun.... at all. 💝
I know exactly what you mean with that horrible emptiness and anxiety. The ONLY thing and i mean ONLY thing that filled the void and took away anxiety, insomnia, lust, anger, loneliness was when i literally cried out to God with my all of my strength and Jesus came to my heart and filled it with love - no joke. This was 18yrs ago.
Used to be involved with organized crime. I’m from Medellin Colombia. Totally different human today and I thank God for it.
@@arealgem9404 I had a very different experience with the christian God. The self proclaimed father of all and the father of lies are one and the same. Your progress as a human is due to you alone, faith is a component of your own will. The change you've made is yours alone. All I can hope is that maybe one day as many of you 'good' Christians will one day see your scripture for the diabolical thing that it is and yet retain that mental fortitude that it afforded you. I wish only elevation and evolution for you folk.
I always thought i was the lone weirdo in that regards. One night, on x with all my friends but my night went differently. Everything slowed down, I started seeing the people I called friends and family for not just the persona they put out to the world but the bad too, like everything lit up and there was no dark shaded places to hide their true selves. My true self even. I had tried twice after that time to do some x however now that the lid were pulled back i could never close it shut again. It forever changed me and the way i saw people, the way i studied people and then in turn interact with them.
@@charlotteatewilbur8838 you should let the hate you carry in your heart go. You did not meet the “Christian God” as you state and the manner in which you speak shows it.
My own will could not have been able to transform my heart.
32 years raving, 49 now and called it quits. Never went too hard but probably harder than many, always the last one out of the club, then the after parties. Now I keep really fit with walks, biking and reasonably healthy food. I only vape, even stopped alcohol. There’s a time to kick it and never look back. It had its place but you gotta move on.
Nice!
wise words
Well done mate hope all is well with you!
I'm 47 in a few weeks and was lucky enough to be doing all this in the 90s. These days I still party and still have my E and Coke when I want it. I DJ and work in the music industry and it is everywhere from teenagers to retirees. Enjoy your life. You only get one.
get a fentanyl testing kit .....I bet you 100 bucks that your drugs are dirty
Your living the life!
@@richardwachs7539 You'd be surprised.
I'd wager that most drugs aren't.
You only hear about dirty batches, not the thousands of pounds of the batches that are great.
@@alymac1997 aye I"m blessed!
You maybe only get one, others get more than one.
This seriously gives me hope for the future. Good for them. Live life the way you want to.
Honestly fair play to these guys
I hate people that say ‘dont wanna be 40 years old clubbing’ like have fun and dont be ashamed
Are there any of these folks in the US?
@@dundermiflin3523 older people that party exist in every country in the world
@@dundermiflin3523 yeah, you find them in Devorce court, On Jerry Springer, and in the Food stamp offices. This is the "Look good scene" they won't show ODs on vice.
@@on-the-rocks everything happens everywhere, but in general, partying in America is very low compared to other nations. it makes sense if you've ever been to the USA, in literally every city except new York, everything closes at 8pm
@@tortellinifettuccine I live in Miami, go to club space nearly every weekend, and there is never a shortage of older people
Dave seems like a blank piece of paper. He has mastered hiding his emotions and feelings.
Ah no, to me he is a self punishing. Maybe as a child taught not to share how he feels or was punished for it. He seems numb and like a high functioning chronically depressed person.
Feel sorry for him really. Seems like a lovely guy
notice how they all wear sun glasses, even at night and in-doors.
@@bouncecat In the three minutes they spoke he revealed so much:
- absent father
- sent to an unsafe boarding school
- by 11yo people had given him joints to smoke
- poverty
- loneliness
- deep and romantic thinker, probably a highly sensitive person
and imagine what he won't say because it is too much to reveal. poor guy.
He looks like a walking carcass.
“Rave till the bloody grave!” I’ve never been to a rave but that quote is life
Rave to the grave is a popular quote ravers use lol I have actually used that alot when at or preparing/pregaming for a rave 💙🥰
A dnt support taking drugs, bt tu each is own, that quote though smthing i can live by, ☝☝ am already high on life!!
@@adriansteve8159 same. Can’t touch the wild drugs but music, food and the things you love will give you a great feeling for sure.
As an ex-raver myself, 10+ years of raves and parties, having met young and old partiers, l say it's important to know when to hang it up, try out new things. Get into different social circles. Raves can be a huge rush, but it's easy to lose yourself in it. Of course, figuring out for yourself when is the proper amount of time will vary from person to person. Just remember though, whatever time you spent in it you won't get back.
my grandpa told me he was on speed for a week about a month ago and he is 84 Years old and been trough multiple strokes he is a mad man. Its a miracle he is alive. He has partied all his life and still does.
thats amazing. I stil score my old aunties crystal/coke sometimes when they like to get down. You know about 714's, then you know whatsup!!
My Mum schooled me on those babies & black beauties, she actually found an old stash of them like ten yrs back - those ludes were still pretty good, she said. The way she describes it, I think they are kinda like doing K, maybe a bit mescaliney K.
Here in the US, nursing and assisted living homes, however you want to call them 65+ have high rates of drug use and std's. In fact the highest concentration of std infection in one age group
Huh? 😆 how did u come to this conclusion
Sadly this is true. Our elderly, wanting to enjoy the end years, take risks. Risks they probably never took in their younger years. Foolishly having unprotected sex since pregnancy is no longer a concern for them.
They're the hippie era. Both my gma and gpa were addicts + STDs
Total lie !
this video kind of gives us a clue why mr depp is always in england
My 20s I was hitting coke regularly. Now I’m 33 years old and I gave up that lifestyle about 3 years ago and started saving money, eventually I bought my own place. There’s no need to get twizzled every day or even every weekend go make something of your life. Make your loved ones proud.
Finally someone else that says twizzled
Yeah at 30 youbshould atleast get your life moving. But wasting 20 alone in work would be huge regret at older age.
Her face at 8:09 when he was eating the coke 😂😂 “Do you get the feeling that if you Staphd this you’d have problems?”
Lol this is the content I'm looking for on a Saturday morning while I do my laundry 😂
Literally same 🤣
I’m not surprised that most of them are still going. I feel like the main concerns with drug abuse are 1) what if the person dies too young or 2) their bodies decline so much that they can know longer function physically and/or mentally? Their drug abuse definitely isn’t something to be admired but all of the folks featured in this video have already lived this long and retained enough mental & motor capabilities to STILL enjoy these wild ass parties. Even if they died the next week, it could still be argued that they had long, pretty full lives before they went. So I honestly don’t blame them
The blokes best mate literally died from it and they carried on without hesitation taking drugs
The main problem with drug use and abuse is it's usually (almost always) a form of escapism. And as with everything in life, when you prioritise expedience and getting high and escapism instead of actually facing up to your issues, and the undertaking of voluntary responsibility, long-term you pay the price. Not just in terms of health (physical health), in fact much more importantly than that, you pay the price in terms of being nihilistic and goalless (which certainly affects your mental health). What an empty, pointless existence. You could put across the very vague and superficial argument of 'having a good time', but that's kind of meaningless and doesn't stand up to scrutiny. If you've ever done drugs or partied and then 'wised up', you'll realise it's all relative, it doesn't bring about any pleasure long-term. Only when it's in contrast to a more serious side of existence can it be worthy of inclusion in moderation. On it's own, it'd soon become not just chore-like, but dark and depressing. I can't help but think people like this, while putting a brave face on it for their own egos, are hiding from their dark demons. I'm not a naysayer, just a realist.
I am also 53 now and u may be surprised I do not feel old enough to die.
UncleYT then it’s a good thing you aren’t doing drugs like them then.
Boris Johnson I know. We both saw the same video.
This documentary is going to be a treasure trove for psytrance and rave samples.
It ended when my body told me in Medellin Colombia, that I'm going to have a stroke if I keep doing this stuff. I listened and don't mess with it anymore. I was never addicted, but messed with it off and on since 1979
As an autistic with asd, lsd made my mind open up. I forgave myself and also came to understand peoples emotions and words much better on the drug than without. I was happy, so happy and I felt normal and full of love. I wont ever forget download 2018 🙏.
Are you clinically diagnosed or just in the recent craze of googling something and calling yourself autistic?
Same bro
Tautology
These geezers are legends in their own rights. Good bless everyone, it's not always about addiction, sometimes it's just about the experience
Exactly 💯
These people are delusional losers. but to each their own.
45 here, former rave producer and ocasionally DJing nowdays. One thing I miss for sure is the real good electronic music from 20 years ago and back, not the EDM popy tunes but the mental beats that really made you dance. Times changes, beats changes
47 and totally agree 👌
you do know that that kind of music is still being produced. It's just not in the mainstream
I agree I used to rave back in early 2000s and the music was so different. I was into trance, old tiesto, armin, Paul oakenfold, PVD, etc. Don’t Larry like that anymore but those were some of my funnest times a a young adult.
I feel that man!
@@jsplit9716 which is good