considering more than a third of them did not WANT to be found, less of a fetch quest more of an escort hostiles quest. And (gasp) big E failed more than a few of his charisma checks during this.
one thing I have always wondered but no one has ever mentioned is...the Old ones were Masters of designing life forms , what if when the Emperor went into the Warp portal , what if he found an Old one Laboratory hidden away inside the Warp , perhaps the "chaos power" he made a deal with was one of the Last old ones ? it might explain how he gained "help from the warp" without actually gaining it from the big 4 , and why the big 4 needed to drag them into the warp and scatter them as they had no direct influence on them until they had
Sorry for the late episode, TH-cam decided that my upload was problematic and demanded a re-uploade something i didn't notice until well past the usual time! tihi :P
12:30 Khorne doesn't lie. Ever. If Khorne is saying that it's what happens, then that's what he believes happened (He may have been tricked, admittedly, but still). Of course, it could just be Tzeentch fucking with us and pretending to be Khorne. Also: Death Korps lore when?
take you book and shuff it wear the sun ain't shining shiny boy. like what was you thinking? that all the LOYAL primachs would become traitors and therefore fuck the Legions ability to wage war, and give the enemy's more chapters to convert. distribute planets worth of gear to a bunch of non primarch lead military groups and think they will not lose this to the enemy's. and almost splitting the loyal chapters into an other civil war after Horus Heresy.
I do want to see the Lorgar video since Arch was already able to make, on the surface, one of the least sympathetic Primarchs (Konrad "Flays People Alive" Curze) a tragic character, so I want to see him try to make Lorgar sympathetic
Kind of hard to pull off a plan when your primary instrument is stolen and then used by someone else for several years, if not decades, who has no idea of the instrument's true purpose.
Matt Ward there are the 18 we're aware of the two missing Primarchs and Omegon who is technically alongside Alpharius shares the title of the 20th Primarch
Ultrasmurf inquisitors... Implying that Rawbut Girlyman's vain glory seekers control in any fashion the Inquisition... Implying Robot Gorillaman's toilet seat bearers are not already heretical... Implying that Robert Gullible's blue balls brigade's "spiritual liege" angle isn't EXTRA heretical... Implying that Rowboat Jellyman's attempted founding of the Imperium Secundus was not Exterminatus grade heretical... Implying that Papa Smurf Marienus Calgar can do something which requires genuine logical thought , planning or anything other than parroting back the writings of the Codex Astartes like a retarded ambulatory organic audiobook. More useless than a servitor who's only programmed task is to wipe someone's ass... Implying that Manliest Cattleguard can relay an understandable message coherently with those comedic oversized cybernetic boogerhooks or his undersized Obsessive compulsive, Codex Astartes addled pea sized brain... Implying Pimp daddy Calgon's actions in letting the Tau evacuate a Tyranid infested world are not "Cleansing by blessed Promethium" levels of heretical... Implying that Wimpy Smurf Meatiest Cornrows' humiliating defeat and loss of all four limbs , a good chunk of his body , and his left eye to a laughably failed encounter with the Tyranid Swarmlord Gargamel wasn't absolutely hilarious... Your deeds and words have been logged, please report to your nearest commissar for re-education.
I love how one single sentence from Arch has immediately devolved the comments from discussion on the lore to a political warscape. That sentence has pulled focus pretty well.
You forgot to mention, that Kor Phaeron and Erebus, according to new HH books were closeted Chaos cultists, and when the big E made Lorgar and Word Bearers take a knee they went to him like the friendly merchants they were, rubbing their hands and guided him straight to big 4. Also in Prospero Burns, Russ mentions that this would be not the first time he is sent to slay a brother primarch, so he might know more about his missing brothers.
They Told Me I Could Become Anything, So I became an Eggplant +Yes. You may press the button to deliver the Emperors Holy Wrath upon the heretics. GLORY TO THE EMPEROR Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment+
Damn, and there i expected a short rundown of all the primarchs or something superficial like that. This was pretty awesome to hear, a bit more in-depth information - but i'd really like to hear the stories of the rest of the primarchs, in the style you already did. Keep it up, those are great videos!
Anonymous247n Well my little friend. Maybe we will hear the lore on other primarchs in the year 35765, when we serve as Servoheads on behalf of commisars. Arch nowadays has more "hinted at" lore videos open, than money in his bank account.
From what I know the Emperor tried to destroy chaos by purging religion from the Galaxy, mistakenly believing that it was faith in general that empowered the Chaos Gods and not emotion and worship of the chaos Gods.
Cure4Living Either way his biggest mistake was not telling them about Chaos. It's best to tell someone the Truth the first time they ask, because if they find out the Truth from someone else it will be a hundred times worse than if you had just told them up front.
Emmett Leone-Woods well if he would have just told them think about those who would willing serve chaos to have a better life many would it would be crazy af
Do you think you could make a 40k lore video on some of the 21st cursed founding chapters like the Minotaur's & Carcharodons? There is a lot of scattered information on the topic and I think you could present it quite well.
You know, listening to this again gave me an idea. I recently watched a video that asked what exactly the Emperor is. One of the possibilities is that he is in fact, a god or godlike entity, but one separate from god in the sense of Chaos. But there is another possibility that this made me consider. You said the Warp is pure energy, neither good nor bad. Chaos represents not evil but disorder. What if big E represents order? when a storm on earth occurs, its due to an imbalance in the properties of the atmosphere. the storm persists until the imbalance is resolved. what if big E is the Warp balancing out? if the warp went to shit during the war in heaven the imbalance was building. the fall of the Eldar was the storm surge. Big E could then be the re-balance needed to resolve the cause of the storm; the Chaos gods. it would make sense then that he would be the Anathema in the most literal sense. he could have also discovered that purpose once he entered the portal on Molek.
I agree, I believe that the emperor was at least a demigod, and his whole secular emperial truth was his attempt at starving chaos. He knew gods where real prior to his crusade, he knew his imperial truth was in fact a lie..
+Catasstrophy no you fool, metal for the rapening come on man, metal is truly the music of hate fucking. Even slaanesh bows to the might of metallic majesty!
24:26 In one of the Horus Heresy books, I can't remember which one. It is suggested the Chaos Gods chose which planets they would land on. There was a conversation between two servants of Khorne and Tzeentch (I think it was Tzeentch) and they talked about why some Primarchs were chosen to land on the planets they landed on and not others. If I had to guess it was in Fear to Tread.
Disagree. His greatest achievement was supposed to be the construction of the Golden Throne, which would have sealed off the universe from chaos and created a system that allows safe travel for the Imperial ships. Unfortunately though he got a dm while making it and the dm mighta blew it to pieces. Oh yeah also small thing. The primarch outdate the Golden Crusade because they were needed for the geneseed for the Astartes.
The original lore presented in the Compilation, was an off hand remark in the description of the Mk 1 Power armor. It was called thunder armor bearing the thunder symbol which was the pre equila symbol of the emperor. "Thunder Warrior" was a more of a catch phrase for Imperial warriors. The armor was contemporary in design and capabilities with the rest of the armies found on Terra and the (terra formed) Moon - mainly favored wrestling moves evidently (which was customary). A few suits of Mark 1 are still found as revered artifacts in founding chapter armories. The Mark 2's were developed for the first steps Great Crusade and don't look too far off of the mark 6 (beaked helmets). Of course this was written a good decade before the concept of the Thunder Warriors being something separate from Space Marines was even a sparkle in somebody's eye.
From The First Heretic Book: When Argel Tal of the Word Bearers was sent back in time by chaos and entered the facility of the Primarch Project. Argel Tal found that the entire facility was protected by the largest, most powerful Gellar field ever made. He cut though cables powering the Gellar field destroying it as well as his swords. This is how the Chaos Gods were able to cast out the Primarchs. It was not planned by the Empreror nor was it any accident.
The emperor himself was being created by a ritual that combined the souls of an unknown number of pykers, resulting in a super soul that was born as a regular human. I hypothesize that the primarks were created from splinters of the emperor’s own soul. As certain aspects of his own personality. He could only do 20 because he could not afford to spend more of his soul and he couldn’t create them with whatever personality he wanted because the splinter portion of soul had to match in to a functional character. When the primarks were sucked in to the wrap vortex inside his laboratory and drifted though the immaterium, the realm of ideas and thoughts, the composition of their souls subconsciously stirred towards worlds that were “in tune“ to them maybe the chaos gods “helped” in order to have a chance to corrupted them on their way to dominance over these worlds. May be the could have destroyed them but their ultimate goal was to bring down the Emperor and his plan to eradicate them. I bet they knew he would never ever came to the idea that his very own Soul would ever betray him. So if they were able to corrupt some of the primarks it be their best chance. That they took so much effort in this plan shows how treated they were by the emperor. Conquering the Galaxy pacify all worlds, destroy religion of any form and ban the use of pykic powers would have probably drained the chaos entity’s dry. At the point in time when everyone in the galaxy would have forgotten about them they would have sensed to exist (unfortunately that meant that all of the Eldar would have to be put to death as well since they would never forget) But look how well it worked. The imperium as it is in the forty-first millennium is the perfect breeding ground and play garden for chaos. Religious believe, powerful enough to shape the immaterium is everywhere. The Galaxy is constantly immerged in pain and suffering, bloodshed, death and corruption. There is only war. The chaos gods won 10000 years ago and now there just toying with their pray. I see 3 ways to get out of it: First the Eldar way. Kill the entirety of the galaxy and chaos will cease to exist. Second the tyrranid way: Eat the galaxy and move on --> same outcome. or the most difficult way continue the emperors plan with or without him. Every thing else will just keep the game of chaos gong.
Arch, you have the best by far, lore videos on TH-cam for Warhammer Fantasy and 40k. I do love your stuff. HOWEVER I do have one criticism. It has nothing to do with content, but more to do with you mastery of making a compelling statement in your video and then stating "but that is a point for another day / video". And then never making said video to expound on that point. And again this is not a harsh criticism, it is merely to say that I want more videos, more often! :) And yes I am well aware of your personal time constraints and production costs. And I appreciate all that you produce. I guess what I am trying to say is that I am an addict that is not getting their "fix" as often as one would like. Have a good day. :) Edit: #blamelorgar
yomanyo327 judging by the fact that he lacks one arm, and is literally a chair bound quadriplegic skeleton with a glass eye, i'd say no. But that won't stop the custodes from brushing them.
Arch, don't blame golden child Lorgargler, blame instead his vainglorious adoptive father/kidnapping old creep, Keeper of the Faith, Kor Phaeron, and blame also the sniveling, worm-tongued, first son of Chaos, self-named, Hand of Destiny, a.k.a., First Chaplain, Erebus. Besides, Lorgar suffered from affluenza, a very potent disease of the mind.
16:14 my personal theory is that the Emperor knew Chaos was a thing, but wasn't aware that it was guided by the intelligence of the Chaos GODS. The shamans he had formed from had lived in a time before the chaos gods were a thing (Khorne formed in the middle ages, iirc), and had mostly dealt with proto-demons and warp beasts. So he knew that Chaos and the Warp were dangerous, but he thought of them like weather patterns or diseases: they can cause massive devastation, but they don't think and plan about it. It just kinda happens. At the same time, the Chaos Gods saw the Emperor as just another juicy candidate for bending to their will, perhaps Tzeentch given his tendency (at this stage) to work from the shadows. The idea that even the strongest psyker could truly pose a threat to chaos never even crossed their minds. So when the Emperor started to gather warp energy to form the Primarchs and met the chaos gods, it was a major eye-opener for both parties.
to me Guilliman and Dorn are the Greatest of the Primarchs they actually built empires and sought to maintain the Imperium OF MAN after the Emperor got interred on the golden throne Russ,Corax, and Jaghatai just fucked of to the warp and are Probably dead or have become the chaos gods fuck toys Curse them they just decided to leave and left Dorn and Rouboutte to maintain a galaxy spanning empire they are both dead and gone but they held true to the emperors IMPERIAL TRUTH
"What in the wolf did you just howlin' say about me, ya little milksop? I'll have you know I was throned the top of my tribe in the Kingdom of the Russ, and I've been involved in numerous executions of traitor primarchs, and I have over 300 million confirmed kills. I am trained in wolf warfare and I am the top CQC-expert in all of the Imperium. Ye' are NOTHIN' to me but just ANOTHER NANCY LIONLOVER BITCH." -Leman Russ
Blitzer Tac leading humanity toward the emperors flawed vision yes you want Dorn or Papa Smurf but to lead in the utter absence of imperial contact........Russ all the way.
It's an interesting decision to treat a subject that is entirely fictional like it is factual and has actually happened, or will actually happen more like. It makes it all the more intriguing and fun to listen to I guess. Anyway, your warhammer videos are always a delight to watch.So keep up the good work!
thanks for a great video arch. Speaking of the two we never speak of, considering they were used purely for those who wanted to create custom legions, have any of you created a custom legion? If so then tell me what they were below, I tend to love fan content considering that fans actually care for the series they're fans of.
One idea that supports arch's theory on the idea that whatever scattered the Primarchs was part Chaos and part Imperial in nature is that when the pods were scattered they were drawn to planets where the populations psychic emanations closet resembled their own minds, either via the Emperor guide the pods after the warp storm or Chaos' psychic nature connecting them to those populations. Hence why the pods ended up on planets with some kind of population as opposed to deep space. These could have been the worlds the Emperor intended his sons to draw their legions from in the future. Hence why Russ would end up on a savage, feral world, Magnus would end up on a world full of psykers, Angron on a world stocked with murderers and gladiators, ect. And it would explain why some of the Primarchs would have their worldviews fulfilled and others distorted and changed. Arch does a great job combining actual history and sociology with all these science fiction theories. JT
+MrMortull Well, they're playable(At least to SOME extent) in Battlefleet Gothic, as mercenaries in the service of the Tau, along with Kroot. They're also fucking overpowered with their Prow Cutting Beams. "Demiurg Brotherhood responding." Also, Battlefleet Gothic is fucking amazing and captures the essence of 40k perfectly and everyone who is even REMOTELY interested in 40k should give it a try.
Fantastic information Arch. I have just recently decided to explore deeper into the Warhammer 40k universe as previously I focused on reading only the old world novels and playing their respective games. The Horus Heresy series has been fascinating and while perusing novels at Barnes and Noble the other day I saw a Space Wolf omnibus by William King that looked promising but it got me wondering if there are any novels that delve into Leman Russ and his life as a primarch. Much love and thanks for your time.
One way you can improve is by not just doing a long ass 30 minute video with one picture show us some pictures about the subject matter you're currently covering.
two points. I always thought the emperor created the stable portal and forced a confrontation with chaos as more of a confirmation of his suspicions. prior to that event he had worked in the material world and had "whispering" from chaos. My thoughts where that he was aware of them and wanted to confirm his feelings before committing to a plan of action. the second theory I had was that the organized spreading of the emperor's sons was a split second intervention on his part when the separation occurred. he couldn't prevent their departure but he guided their destinations.
The Emperors influence on the age of technology is quite plausible as he may have had an idea or suspiscion of the threat of Chaos and its link to superstition etc. long before he knew any details. About the thought that one or more national leaders is a Chaos god (or worshiper thereof), that would explain some of the leaders we have seen in human history.
wasnt there some prof that the scattering was pratial controlled. i dont remember the name of the book but, i think its the night hunter who is told, that he was supposte to go to Nocturne, and vulkan was to arrive on Nostramo, but the chaos gods change their distination....
To be fair to angron he DID have a peice of technology desinged to make him angry and savage forcible put in his brain by the rulers of the planet he landed on, it could not be safely removed and made his decisions worse.
there is more information on how the emperor fought chaos before the age of strife in several of the short stories. On the subject of who came first I suspect that the Castodias came first and that the thunder warriors were the first attempt at mass producing an army. While the thunder warriors were in ways similar to the Castodians unlike astartes the thunder warriors had no singular genetic base template for their gene enhancements or said enhancements where based on the flawed human gene pool of earth. The primarchs where I think intended for the roles and missions you stayed but I suspect the original intent was for them to lead armies of Thunder warriors into battle. I also think that the emperor tried to fix the Thunder warriors but in a mirror of Lore and Data found the problem to complex and proceeded to the next logical step which turned out to be the space marines.
Trump is a buffoon but Hillary is a blood thirst evil woman suported by all the military companys . The European media is trying too discredit Trump 24/7 , they treat him worst than Putin xD
There was a part during the conversation of the emperor and the last priest on earth regarding things gestating in his underground laboratory to use to conquer the galaxy.
Why do all of my favorite youtubers have to bring up politics all the time? I hear enough about that at work (I live in a heavy Trump area where everyone needs to make their opinion your business).
Yeah, that annoyed me as well. Hillary wasn't my favorite candidate, but if she's a Chaos God, she's Tzeentch to Trump's Slaanesh. We're not in a good place right now.
If I recall corectly. In old canon there were some metions that Emperor gained his knowledge to make Primarch from Chaos Gods. That's how Gods got knowledge of Primarch project. Another thing is. If chaos gods knew emperor as Anatema and gained knowledge of his primarch project, why they only scattered primarchs instead of destroing them with whole project? It was not some demon incursion but Chaos portal opened that snuffed primarchs and scattered them. With all the power Gods hold over immaterium they could land those primarchs on dead worlds, void, xeno worlds or much much different time. But they safetly landed on human inhabited planets, that even suited theire in builded traits like with Magnus, Sanguinius, or Leman Russ. We are told that it was Chaos Gods attempt to set back emperor in his conquest. But end point is that it created pockets of well organised areas ready to be incorporated during Great Crusade. Is that not suspicious that gods failed so much, it almost look like it supported emperor plan?
It's not that they were "guided" per sey... just that they were going to be drawn to a matching warp energy signature. So the fact that they were drawn to worlds almost tailor made for them is a cause of why the were there. The only thing that explains travel to populated worlds at that distance is that their presence IS the explination.
If the Primark's were part warp thing It makes sense that some rebelled and went like a teen with a stepdad Told the emperor to fuck off and went with their "parents"
were their any records on terra or elsewhere in the solar system regarding the locations of human inhabited worlds? i have never thought about it before but the crusade must have had at least a rough idea of where to look as by all accounts the milky way is quite large and contains lots of stars and planets.
*Angron slaughters his way into the Emperors office. Bloodspattered custodians falling left and right* " I have come, to apply for the govenourship of the segmentum tempestus. I brought my CV" *Angron proceeds to toss a human skin bound dossier on the desk so thick it breaks the desk, crushing the Techpriest underneath.* " Have you now my son.." *Ths big Muscly sunradiant awesomeness that was the Emperor tosses his spanner away from the big chair he is building and sits down* "And how, Angron. Can you govern a full 4th of my Imperium of man with all the complaining and trifle human error and adepta constantly pressing you" *Angron grins slightly.. Picking his teeth with what appears to be one of Fulgrims sharpened teeth as a toothpick* "Well, Father. They cant.. Well. Not really" *The Emperor looks visibly annoyed as two techpriests pass with electromops and begin loudly chanting the Rite Of Cleaning in binaric code as they remove the dead custodians* "What do you mean they.. Cant" *Angron tilts his head slightly crushing the skull of one of the techpriests in frustration* "They cant complain if they are dead!" *The glorius radiant lightbulbmass of big E facepalms himself in all his glorius might* "Angron. You. Cant. Have. The. Job." *Angron goes bananas*
In the "Pharos" book they basically confirm that the Emperor himself planned to scatter the primarchs on their various different homeworlds through Curzes dialogue with Sanguinius (and that probably all of the Heresy is part of the Emperors plan). What do you think about that?
Maybe the teleportation was a feature designed by The Emperor, only it was triggered somewhat improperly and immaturely by the chaos. Primarchs might have been meant to develop in proper conditions under oversight of the emperor, and only after that they were supposed to be spread teleported throughout the galaxy. Maybe the guidance system was made to guide to any imperial planet of your choice and 20 planets were just picked at random, or perhaps even handpicked by some chaos god or such.
It is mentioned in Vengeful Spirit that The Emperor went to Molech millennia before He appeared there ahead of the Great Crusade. Also Horus didn't "steal" the Chaos God's powers, The Emperor did, Horus however, earned it by fighting in the Warp for the various Gods. The Emperor and Horus both apparently spent about 300 years in the Warp however only seconds had passed in the Material realm.
Yuvath gate? The godemperor _was_ looking at making the equivalent of autonomous roomba he could program to clean up his galaxy and needed a power source.
I think that there's something to the theory that the Emperor knew that the Primarchs would be scattered/messed with by Chaos in some way. One of the Horus Heresy books states that the Emperor "new that his sons must be of humanity in order to lead humanity," and the theme of Space Marines and Primarchs contemplating their humanity is really key to their character. Maybe Big-E new that the Chaos gods would try to scatter his sons, but played into their hand to make them think they won while still serve his own purpose (complicated, but plausible)? Perhaps this was something he foresaw and could not find a way around, so he rolled with it? Just a thought.
i thought one of the missing ones was chosen as thePrimarch of the grey knights and therefore thats the reason hes not in records as that entire chapter was removed until the first date in which they return which was when they were needed
I always thought the golden age of tech was ruined by chaos, specifically corruption of all the AI, and not predicted by big E. I think after that he decided to find out just what kind of creatures caused this he went to find out why. I suspect when they told him why, for food and sport, he got pissed as hell.
29:46 didn't you tell in some other video that E wasn't that genocidal concerning aliens as long as they were no threat to the humanity and the whole xeno scum exterminatus thing started way after he took a seat?
Do you think the primarchs ending up on human worlds could've had something to do with them being somehow imbued with the will to lead people and thus being subconsciously drawn to human worlds with people similar to them as they passed through the wrap?
It is hard to tell what you mean about pre-Horus Heresy lore concerning the Primarchs, so I won't comment about this. But it is pretty clear from the book "the Outcast Dead" that Arik Taranis is the Primarch of the Thunder Warriors. There are several clues, but the most telling is at the very end of the book, when he is able to produce an organ that will allow both Ghota and Arik to live, he tells Ghota that they have succeeded, "Yes, my son, ... life".
new idea for a drinking game. Every time he says "we'll get into that some other time" take a shot, i guarantee you'll be fucked up by the end of the video
Can a chaos mutation only be given to a willing host? Or can it be given to anyone at anytime? If that's so, the. What's stopping Khorne from giving vast chunks of empire soldiers tentacles growing out of their faces?
I do like the thought of that each Primarch was made for a certain purpose. Makes me kinda want to think about what were each of their purpose in the Emperor’s grand plan.
Quest Accepted: Collect 20 Primarchs
Even in the Grim Darkness of the Far Future, fetch quests are where everyone starts out if not dealing with rats.
considering more than a third of them did not WANT to be found, less of a fetch quest more of an escort hostiles quest. And (gasp) big E failed more than a few of his charisma checks during this.
They'll have to deal with rats eventually.... _Skaven will come_
*21
Gotta catch 'em all!
@@Morec0 In 40k they are called Tyranids
"Join their slightly glowing father in rampaging through the galaxy with chainsaws and flamethrowers"
What could go wrong?
Best bring your sons to work day ever, with the bonus of being everyday.
Who is definitely not a god
Sounds like my kind of fun.
one thing I have always wondered but no one has ever mentioned is...the Old ones were Masters of designing life forms , what if when the Emperor went into the Warp portal , what if he found an Old one Laboratory hidden away inside the Warp , perhaps the "chaos power" he made a deal with was one of the Last old ones ?
it might explain how he gained "help from the warp" without actually gaining it from the big 4 , and why the big 4 needed to drag them into the warp and scatter them as they had no direct influence on them until they had
That sounds like an excellent explanation.
I like this idea! It makes some pretty good sense.
I really like this idea as well
I'm considering this canon now, and I have zero fucks about what GW has to say about this.
"Magic pain glove, I am lost on this heretical ship. Tell me what I should do?"
*hand falls off*
Wind Wind "Your services are no longer required" >:(
FatLeon93 "Do you know what your fists are up to now?"
I love Rogal Dorn.
Magic pain glove is my greatest creation.
Sorry for the late episode, TH-cam decided that my upload was problematic and demanded a re-uploade something i didn't notice until well past the usual time! tihi :P
I cum everytime I see another of these 40k lore videos being uploaded
+Max Vemic Delightful.
Arch Warhammer LOVE THE VIDS DEATH TO THE ENEMIES OF LORD ARCH BLESSED BE THE EMPEROR
Max Vemic same
Arch Warhammer you word still reach us my lord.
#blamelorgar
#blamelorgar2
#emperordammitlorgar
#Magnusdidnothingwrong
#BlameLogar 4ever
#itsmorphololologistfault
12:30 Khorne doesn't lie. Ever. If Khorne is saying that it's what happens, then that's what he believes happened (He may have been tricked, admittedly, but still). Of course, it could just be Tzeentch fucking with us and pretending to be Khorne.
Also: Death Korps lore when?
*IncomprehensibleEldritchSpessOctopussGiggles*
If Lorgar had spent some time with my magic pain glove he would not betrayed Emperor.
Greetings, brother! How do you fare on this day?
Go away Papa Smurf.
Gary Matthews Chaos spawn?
take you book and shuff it wear the sun ain't shining shiny boy. like what was you thinking? that all the LOYAL primachs would become traitors and therefore fuck the Legions ability to wage war, and give the enemy's more chapters to convert. distribute planets worth of gear to a bunch of non primarch lead military groups and think they will not lose this to the enemy's. and almost splitting the loyal chapters into an other civil war after Horus Heresy.
***** HERETIC!!!.........(slipping a small note of cash into you pocket when nobody ain't looking and a pamphlet of the god emperor)
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOOD!SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!*
LUCK FOR THE LUCKY CARMS!!!
I know you and we are one
"Lorgar was a massive quivering vagina"
-Arch Lorgar video, 2033
#BlameLogar
Let's do it!
Scytale of Riviera #BlameLogar
Scytale of Riviera a bit optimistic, I'd say 2076
#blamelorgar
I really want you to do a video on a specific Primarch. I loved the Konrad Curze video.
Quartz
Yup I want one on all the Primark's
there's already one for Konrad
there's already one for Konrad
I do want to see the Lorgar video since Arch was already able to make, on the surface, one of the least sympathetic Primarchs (Konrad "Flays People Alive" Curze) a tragic character, so I want to see him try to make Lorgar sympathetic
Man hearing you describe the original purpose of the primarch project makes what happened all the more sad, maybe he really did have a plan.....
Kind of hard to pull off a plan when your primary instrument is stolen and then used by someone else for several years, if not decades, who has no idea of the instrument's true purpose.
21 primarchs? Arch be prepared for my Ultramarine Inquisitors
Matt Ward there are the 18 we're aware of the two missing Primarchs and Omegon who is technically alongside Alpharius shares the title of the 20th Primarch
Ultrasmurf inquisitors...
Implying that Rawbut Girlyman's vain glory seekers control in any fashion the
Inquisition...
Implying Robot Gorillaman's toilet seat bearers are not already heretical...
Implying that Robert Gullible's blue balls brigade's "spiritual liege" angle isn't
EXTRA heretical...
Implying that Rowboat Jellyman's attempted founding of the Imperium Secundus was not Exterminatus grade heretical...
Implying that Papa Smurf Marienus Calgar can do something which requires genuine logical thought , planning or anything other than parroting back the writings of the Codex Astartes like a retarded ambulatory organic audiobook. More useless than a servitor who's only programmed task is to wipe someone's ass...
Implying that Manliest Cattleguard can relay an understandable message
coherently with those comedic oversized cybernetic boogerhooks or his
undersized Obsessive compulsive, Codex Astartes addled pea sized brain...
Implying Pimp daddy Calgon's actions in letting the Tau evacuate a Tyranid infested world are not "Cleansing by blessed Promethium" levels of heretical...
Implying that Wimpy Smurf Meatiest Cornrows' humiliating defeat and loss of all four limbs , a good chunk of his body , and his left eye to a laughably failed encounter with the Tyranid Swarmlord Gargamel wasn't absolutely hilarious...
Your deeds and words have been logged, please report to your nearest commissar for re-education.
i count both Omegon and Alpharius
Someone's salty.
couldn't Omegon be one of the missing ones?
This man says that the god emperor of mankind can't watch over all of us ? HERESY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BURN THE HERATIC!!
+owen Purge the unclean.
mrwarblunt BURN THE WITCH!!!BUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRN!!!
HAPPY DISASTER let's rally under you and purge this heretic in the name of the god emperor of mankind
he can't while leading a crusade in person he can on the golden throne that helps him focus his almost unlimited power( as nothing is truly unlimited)
I love how one single sentence from Arch has immediately devolved the comments from discussion on the lore to a political warscape. That sentence has pulled focus pretty well.
"Arch Warhammer was found dead from 11 bolted blasts to the back of the head. It has been ruled a suicide"
You forgot to mention, that Kor Phaeron and Erebus, according to new HH books were closeted Chaos cultists, and when the big E made Lorgar and Word Bearers take a knee they went to him like the friendly merchants they were, rubbing their hands and guided him straight to big 4.
Also in Prospero Burns, Russ mentions that this would be not the first time he is sent to slay a brother primarch, so he might know more about his missing brothers.
One of the missing primarchs definitely turned to chaos and was killed by the other primes i remember a very long reddit post about it
I find it amusing that Arch's comment section often may as well be that of Text to Speech Device.
Venalitor you are so right
Particularly about Rogal's Magic Pain Glove.
Venalitor we're 40k fans; shitposting and legit conversation are our only two settings
VULKAN LIVES! VULKAN LIVES!
VULKAN LIVES! VULKAN LIVES!
VULKAN LIVES! VULKAN LIVES!
Rhys Jones of course he does, he can't die 😂
VULKAN LIVES! VULKAN LIVES!
Looks like I've started something here.
The CNN thing made me laugh way more than it should have :D
the Chaos News Network
DID SOMEBODY SAY CHAAAAAOS?!?!?!
**Looks at Exterminatus Button with Glee**
**Whisper** Can I Press it~?
They Told Me I Could Become Anything, So I became an Eggplant
+Yes. You may press the button to deliver the Emperors Holy Wrath upon the heretics.
GLORY TO THE EMPEROR
Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment+
Surprised he didn’t also mention Fox News... 😎
#blameLorgar
#BlameLorgar
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#BlameLorgar
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12:25 haha, even five years ago you saw that hell hole for what it was.
Damn, and there i expected a short rundown of all the primarchs or something superficial like that. This was pretty awesome to hear, a bit more in-depth information - but i'd really like to hear the stories of the rest of the primarchs, in the style you already did. Keep it up, those are great videos!
Anonymous247n Well my little friend. Maybe we will hear the lore on other primarchs in the year 35765, when we serve as Servoheads on behalf of commisars. Arch nowadays has more "hinted at" lore videos open, than money in his bank account.
GUISE. WE GOTTA MAKE THIS #BlameLorgar THING A REALITY.
not enough gasmasks
BURN THE HERATIC
#BlameLogar
*digging a trench*
Soldier From Krieg
Ok thats a fucking cool name.
Lucas Ayres thanks, you know what Krieg means?
From what I know the Emperor tried to destroy chaos by purging religion from the Galaxy, mistakenly believing that it was faith in general that empowered the Chaos Gods and not emotion and worship of the chaos Gods.
Cure4Living Either way his biggest mistake was not telling them about Chaos. It's best to tell someone the Truth the first time they ask, because if they find out the Truth from someone else it will be a hundred times worse than if you had just told them up front.
Emmett Leone-Woods if they had known the truth then A LOT of people would join out of selfishness. Humans being selfish and curious creatures
Mann Tau I'd say you'd be better off without those people. Let them weed themselves out.
I think it was meant to weaken them not destroy them
Emmett Leone-Woods well if he would have just told them think about those who would willing serve chaos to have a better life many would it would be crazy af
thank you all mighty Arch, your ramblings leave much to go on :) Nurgle is love, Nurgle is life ;)
keep it up arch! I love your videos. always interesting, and I personally find them extremely calming/relaxinf
I would love to see a Primarch series done by Arch where he goes into detail about them like his Konrad Curze video
“They were also statesmen, philosophers, craftsmen, and judges.”
And one serial killer (Konrad Curze)…
Do you think you could make a 40k lore video on some of the 21st cursed founding chapters like the Minotaur's & Carcharodons? There is a lot of scattered information on the topic and I think you could present it quite well.
You know, listening to this again gave me an idea. I recently watched a video that asked what exactly the Emperor is. One of the possibilities is that he is in fact, a god or godlike entity, but one separate from god in the sense of Chaos. But there is another possibility that this made me consider. You said the Warp is pure energy, neither good nor bad. Chaos represents not evil but disorder. What if big E represents order? when a storm on earth occurs, its due to an imbalance in the properties of the atmosphere. the storm persists until the imbalance is resolved. what if big E is the Warp balancing out? if the warp went to shit during the war in heaven the imbalance was building. the fall of the Eldar was the storm surge. Big E could then be the re-balance needed to resolve the cause of the storm; the Chaos gods. it would make sense then that he would be the Anathema in the most literal sense. he could have also discovered that purpose once he entered the portal on Molek.
I agree, I believe that the emperor was at least a demigod, and his whole secular emperial truth was his attempt at starving chaos. He knew gods where real prior to his crusade, he knew his imperial truth was in fact a lie..
You make so ficking good lore video's
+Catasstrophy no you fool, metal for the rapening come on man, metal is truly the music of hate fucking. Even slaanesh bows to the might of metallic majesty!
Everybody knows the God Emperor is the way to go.
If you disagree with that opinion, you'll get shot.
By me.
I'm not a fan of Space Communism and sneaky Ethereal manipulation, but your Earth Caste is BADASS.
24:26 In one of the Horus Heresy books, I can't remember which one. It is suggested the Chaos Gods chose which planets they would land on. There was a conversation between two servants of Khorne and Tzeentch (I think it was Tzeentch) and they talked about why some Primarchs were chosen to land on the planets they landed on and not others. If I had to guess it was in Fear to Tread.
Disagree. His greatest achievement was supposed to be the construction of the Golden Throne, which would have sealed off the universe from chaos and created a system that allows safe travel for the Imperial ships. Unfortunately though he got a dm while making it and the dm mighta blew it to pieces.
Oh yeah also small thing. The primarch outdate the Golden Crusade because they were needed for the geneseed for the Astartes.
The original lore presented in the Compilation, was an off hand remark in the description of the Mk 1 Power armor. It was called thunder armor bearing the thunder symbol which was the pre equila symbol of the emperor. "Thunder Warrior" was a more of a catch phrase for Imperial warriors. The armor was contemporary in design and capabilities with the rest of the armies found on Terra and the (terra formed) Moon - mainly favored wrestling moves evidently (which was customary). A few suits of Mark 1 are still found as revered artifacts in founding chapter armories. The Mark 2's were developed for the first steps Great Crusade and don't look too far off of the mark 6 (beaked helmets). Of course this was written a good decade before the concept of the Thunder Warriors being something separate from Space Marines was even a sparkle in somebody's eye.
off topic but am I wrong in saying this that chaos is basically a reset button for warhammer?
From The First Heretic Book: When Argel Tal of the Word Bearers was sent back in time by chaos and entered the facility of the Primarch Project. Argel Tal found that the entire facility was protected by the largest, most powerful Gellar field ever made.
He cut though cables powering the Gellar field destroying it as well as his swords.
This is how the Chaos Gods were able to cast out the Primarchs.
It was not planned by the Empreror nor was it any accident.
#Blamelogar
You had one job.
Lorgar*
The emperor himself was being created by a ritual that combined the souls of an unknown number of pykers, resulting in a super soul that was born as a regular human.
I hypothesize that the primarks were created from splinters of the emperor’s own soul. As certain aspects of his own personality. He could only do 20 because he could not afford to spend more of his soul and he couldn’t create them with whatever personality he wanted because the splinter portion of soul had to match in to a functional character.
When the primarks were sucked in to the wrap vortex inside his laboratory and drifted though the immaterium, the realm of ideas and thoughts, the composition of their souls subconsciously stirred towards worlds that were “in tune“ to them maybe the chaos gods “helped” in order to have a chance to corrupted them on their way to dominance over these worlds. May be the could have destroyed them but their ultimate goal was to bring down the Emperor and his plan to eradicate them.
I bet they knew he would never ever came to the idea that his very own Soul would ever betray him. So if they were able to corrupt some of the primarks it be their best chance. That they took so much effort in this plan shows how treated they were by the emperor. Conquering the Galaxy pacify all worlds, destroy religion of any form and ban the use of pykic powers would have probably drained the chaos entity’s dry. At the point in time when everyone in the galaxy would have forgotten about them they would have sensed to exist (unfortunately that meant that all of the Eldar would have to be put to death as well since they would never forget)
But look how well it worked. The imperium as it is in the forty-first millennium is the perfect breeding ground and play garden for chaos. Religious believe, powerful enough to shape the immaterium is everywhere. The Galaxy is constantly immerged in pain and suffering, bloodshed, death and corruption. There is only war. The chaos gods won 10000 years ago and now there just toying with their pray.
I see 3 ways to get out of it:
First the Eldar way. Kill the entirety of the galaxy and chaos will cease to exist.
Second the tyrranid way: Eat the galaxy and move on --> same outcome.
or the most difficult way continue the emperors plan with or without him.
Every thing else will just keep the game of chaos gong.
Again, no mention of Thunder Lords. Is it deliberate or just an oversight?
Hieronymus Rhodes agreed...HUH!?!
*****
Thunder warriors' leaders, proto-primarchs you might even say.
Arch, you have the best by far, lore videos on TH-cam for Warhammer Fantasy and 40k. I do love your stuff. HOWEVER I do have one criticism. It has nothing to do with content, but more to do with you mastery of making a compelling statement in your video and then stating "but that is a point for another day / video". And then never making said video to expound on that point. And again this is not a harsh criticism, it is merely to say that I want more videos, more often! :) And yes I am well aware of your personal time constraints and production costs. And I appreciate all that you produce. I guess what I am trying to say is that I am an addict that is not getting their "fix" as often as one would like. Have a good day. :)
Edit: #blamelorgar
does the emperor need to wash his teeth?
yomanyo327 judging by the fact that he lacks one arm, and is literally a chair bound quadriplegic skeleton with a glass eye, i'd say no. But that won't stop the custodes from brushing them.
Mitchell Amadeus Shatterhead they'll brush some other things too😏😏😏
James.T .Adams please leave pillar man.
(reference to the customs in tts)
Arch, don't blame golden child Lorgargler, blame instead his vainglorious adoptive father/kidnapping old creep, Keeper of the Faith, Kor Phaeron, and blame also the sniveling, worm-tongued, first son of Chaos, self-named, Hand of Destiny, a.k.a., First Chaplain, Erebus. Besides, Lorgar suffered from affluenza, a very potent disease of the mind.
Wait so Russ isn't a space Viking? It's just him playing his part, so what's he really like then?
Zeno Blues "A Furry Fuck!!!"
-Magnus the Red
Commissar Thomas
😂
That is the best
he was still a space viking, but he knew he was just a cog in the machine.
A furry.
Zeno Blues basically someone who tried to kill Magnus the red. And that furry fuck DID NOT SUCCEED
Very nice , always fun to listen to lore with your colorful explanations !
The CNN and Clinton comments earned my subscription.
16:14 my personal theory is that the Emperor knew Chaos was a thing, but wasn't aware that it was guided by the intelligence of the Chaos GODS. The shamans he had formed from had lived in a time before the chaos gods were a thing (Khorne formed in the middle ages, iirc), and had mostly dealt with proto-demons and warp beasts. So he knew that Chaos and the Warp were dangerous, but he thought of them like weather patterns or diseases: they can cause massive devastation, but they don't think and plan about it. It just kinda happens.
At the same time, the Chaos Gods saw the Emperor as just another juicy candidate for bending to their will, perhaps Tzeentch given his tendency (at this stage) to work from the shadows. The idea that even the strongest psyker could truly pose a threat to chaos never even crossed their minds.
So when the Emperor started to gather warp energy to form the Primarchs and met the chaos gods, it was a major eye-opener for both parties.
to me Guilliman and Dorn are the Greatest of the Primarchs they actually built empires and sought to maintain the Imperium OF MAN after the Emperor got interred on the golden throne Russ,Corax, and Jaghatai just fucked of to the warp and are Probably dead or have become the chaos gods fuck toys Curse them they just decided to leave and left Dorn and Rouboutte to maintain a galaxy spanning empire they are both dead and gone but they held true to the emperors IMPERIAL TRUTH
Abbadon380 ye would say that ya traitorous milksop! Have ye no wooooolves?
"What in the wolf did you just howlin' say about me, ya little milksop? I'll have you know I was throned the top of my tribe in the Kingdom of the Russ, and I've been involved in numerous executions of traitor primarchs, and I have over 300 million confirmed kills. I am trained in wolf warfare and I am the top CQC-expert in all of the Imperium. Ye' are NOTHIN' to me but just ANOTHER NANCY LIONLOVER BITCH."
-Leman Russ
You forgot The Lion, he wasn't the best socialite, but he fought bloody hard for the Imperium
Blitzer Tac leading humanity toward the emperors flawed vision yes you want Dorn or Papa Smurf but to lead in the utter absence of imperial contact........Russ all the way.
you forget the Angel who was a less powerful Emperor figure
It's an interesting decision to treat a subject that is entirely fictional like it is factual and has actually happened, or will actually happen more like. It makes it all the more intriguing and fun to listen to I guess. Anyway, your warhammer videos are always a delight to watch.So keep up the good work!
Vent.... Du er norsk?? Mind = Blown
Imponerende dialekt Arch 😂
Love going back an re watching these videos, and commenting again to help the channel recoup from the hack
lorgar was not the problem, Erebus is the badboy
thanks for a great video arch. Speaking of the two we never speak of, considering they were used purely for those who wanted to create custom legions, have any of you created a custom legion? If so then tell me what they were below, I tend to love fan content considering that fans actually care for the series they're fans of.
I too identify as a blue whale ^^
Calimero Hœnir
Your profile pic tells us as such
Heretic!
One idea that supports arch's theory on the idea that whatever scattered the Primarchs was part Chaos and part
Imperial in nature is that when the pods were scattered they were drawn to planets where the populations
psychic emanations closet resembled their own minds, either via the Emperor guide the pods after the warp
storm or Chaos' psychic nature connecting them to those populations. Hence why the pods ended up on
planets with some kind of population as opposed to deep space. These could have been the worlds the
Emperor intended his sons to draw their legions from in the future.
Hence why Russ would end up on a savage, feral world, Magnus would end up on a world full of psykers,
Angron on a world stocked with murderers and gladiators, ect. And it would explain why some of the
Primarchs would have their worldviews fulfilled and others distorted and changed.
Arch does a great job combining actual history and sociology with all these science fiction theories.
JT
what if malice gave the emperor the knowledge
shadowfox2300 He doesn't exist, stop talking about it.
*Chants* Malal, Squats, Zoats...
Old Lore never dies! It just moves into the brains of neckbeards and people who like to argue. XD
For real? I'd love to have my Space Dwarves back.
+MrMortull
Well, they're playable(At least to SOME extent) in Battlefleet Gothic, as mercenaries in the service of the Tau, along with Kroot.
They're also fucking overpowered with their Prow Cutting Beams.
"Demiurg Brotherhood responding."
Also, Battlefleet Gothic is fucking amazing and captures the essence of 40k perfectly and everyone who is even REMOTELY interested in 40k should give it a try.
You're my favorite lore guy right after bruva alfabusa
PRAISE THE SEVENTEENTH! PRAISE AURELIAN!
Mmmmm, making my Friday all sorts of awesome. Thanks Arch!
i feel like i am in a school again but more fun xD
Fantastic information Arch. I have just recently decided to explore deeper into the Warhammer 40k universe as previously I focused on reading only the old world novels and playing their respective games. The Horus Heresy series has been fascinating and while perusing novels at Barnes and Noble the other day I saw a Space Wolf omnibus by William King that looked promising but it got me wondering if there are any novels that delve into Leman Russ and his life as a primarch. Much love and thanks for your time.
One way you can improve is by not just doing a long ass 30 minute video with one picture show us some pictures about the subject matter you're currently covering.
He usually does. He said he got lazy on this one.
Glad to hear it.
two points. I always thought the emperor created the stable portal and forced a confrontation with chaos as more of a confirmation of his suspicions. prior to that event he had worked in the material world and had "whispering" from chaos. My thoughts where that he was aware of them and wanted to confirm his feelings before committing to a plan of action. the second theory I had was that the organized spreading of the emperor's sons was a split second intervention on his part when the separation occurred. he couldn't prevent their departure but he guided their destinations.
Hail Sanguinius!
The most perfect of Primarches!
daddys fabolous hawk boy died for papa emps
The right way to go.
Indeed, except he died to FUCKING HORUS!
I'll support a guy both noble and badass enough to break a Bloodthirster's spine over his knee any day. Damned shame that Horus got the better of him.
The Emperors influence on the age of technology is quite plausible as he may have had an idea or suspiscion of the threat of Chaos and its link to superstition etc. long before he knew any details. About the thought that one or more national leaders is a Chaos god (or worshiper thereof), that would explain some of the leaders we have seen in human history.
I couldn't NOT hit like when you likened Clinton to a Chaos god.
LordDemosair clintinious,chaos god of bitchyness,lies,and feminism
wasnt there some prof that the scattering was pratial controlled. i dont remember the name of the book but, i think its the night hunter who is told, that he was supposte to go to Nocturne, and vulkan was to arrive on Nostramo, but the chaos gods change their distination....
To be fair to angron he DID have a peice of technology desinged to make him angry and savage forcible put in his brain by the rulers of the planet he landed on, it could not be safely removed and made his decisions worse.
#BlameLogar
there is more information on how the emperor fought chaos before the age of strife in several of the short stories.
On the subject of who came first I suspect that the Castodias came first and that the thunder warriors were the first attempt at mass producing an army. While the thunder warriors were in ways similar to the Castodians unlike astartes the thunder warriors had no singular genetic base template for their gene enhancements or said enhancements where based on the flawed human gene pool of earth. The primarchs where I think intended for the roles and missions you stayed but I suspect the original intent was for them to lead armies of Thunder warriors into battle. I also think that the emperor tried to fix the Thunder warriors but in a mirror of Lore and Data found the problem to complex and proceeded to the next logical step which turned out to be the space marines.
#blamelogar
3:15 Constable Kurze on duty... that would've been pretty cool.
So, is Arch a Trump supporter? Or does he just dislike Clinton and Trump both?
they are both terrible but Clinton is just worse,
Why do you say that?
Cuz he's right.
That description describes both pretty well.
Trump is a buffoon but Hillary is a blood thirst evil woman suported by all the military companys .
The European media is trying too discredit Trump 24/7 , they treat him worst than Putin xD
There was a part during the conversation of the emperor and the last priest on earth regarding things gestating in his underground laboratory to use to conquer the galaxy.
Why do all of my favorite youtubers have to bring up politics all the time? I hear enough about that at work (I live in a heavy Trump area where everyone needs to make their opinion your business).
Yeah, that annoyed me as well. Hillary wasn't my favorite candidate, but if she's a Chaos God, she's Tzeentch to Trump's Slaanesh. We're not in a good place right now.
Are you sure Trump isn't Nurgle?
If I recall corectly.
In old canon there were some metions that Emperor gained his knowledge to make Primarch from Chaos Gods. That's how Gods got knowledge of Primarch project.
Another thing is. If chaos gods knew emperor as Anatema and gained knowledge of his primarch project, why they only scattered primarchs instead of destroing them with whole project?
It was not some demon incursion but Chaos portal opened that snuffed primarchs and scattered them. With all the power Gods hold over immaterium they could land those primarchs on dead worlds, void, xeno worlds or much much different time.
But they safetly landed on human inhabited planets, that even suited theire in builded traits like with Magnus, Sanguinius, or Leman Russ. We are told that it was Chaos Gods attempt to set back emperor in his conquest. But end point is that it created pockets of well organised areas ready to be incorporated during Great Crusade. Is that not suspicious that gods failed so much, it almost look like it supported emperor plan?
Post 40k lore more often please! I love to listen to it.
It's not that they were "guided" per sey... just that they were going to be drawn to a matching warp energy signature.
So the fact that they were drawn to worlds almost tailor made for them is a cause of why the were there.
The only thing that explains travel to populated worlds at that distance is that their presence IS the explination.
You are norwegian? Cool. You and BM are probably the best exports of that country.
If the Primark's were part warp thing
It makes sense that some rebelled and went like a teen with a stepdad
Told the emperor to fuck off and went with their "parents"
that's what mortarian did, in mortarian's heart he says something like, "I am the son of a demi-god and son of a true god" papa nurgle
were their any records on terra or elsewhere in the solar system regarding the locations of human inhabited worlds? i have never thought about it before but the crusade must have had at least a rough idea of where to look as by all accounts the milky way is quite large and contains lots of stars and planets.
*Angron slaughters his way into the Emperors office. Bloodspattered custodians falling left and right*
" I have come, to apply for the govenourship of the segmentum tempestus. I brought my CV"
*Angron proceeds to toss a human skin bound dossier on the desk so thick it breaks the desk, crushing the Techpriest underneath.*
" Have you now my son.."
*Ths big Muscly sunradiant awesomeness that was the Emperor tosses his spanner away from the big chair he is building and sits down*
"And how, Angron. Can you govern a full 4th of my Imperium of man with all the complaining and trifle human error and adepta constantly pressing you"
*Angron grins slightly.. Picking his teeth with what appears to be one of Fulgrims sharpened teeth as a toothpick*
"Well, Father. They cant.. Well. Not really"
*The Emperor looks visibly annoyed as two techpriests pass with electromops and begin loudly chanting the Rite Of Cleaning in binaric code as they remove the dead custodians*
"What do you mean they.. Cant"
*Angron tilts his head slightly crushing the skull of one of the techpriests in frustration*
"They cant complain if they are dead!"
*The glorius radiant lightbulbmass of big E facepalms himself in all his glorius might*
"Angron. You. Cant. Have. The. Job."
*Angron goes bananas*
In the "Pharos" book they basically confirm that the Emperor himself planned to scatter the primarchs on their various different homeworlds through Curzes dialogue with Sanguinius (and that probably all of the Heresy is part of the Emperors plan).
What do you think about that?
Maybe the teleportation was a feature designed by The Emperor, only it was triggered somewhat improperly and immaturely by the chaos. Primarchs might have been meant to develop in proper conditions under oversight of the emperor, and only after that they were supposed to be spread teleported throughout the galaxy. Maybe the guidance system was made to guide to any imperial planet of your choice and 20 planets were just picked at random, or perhaps even handpicked by some chaos god or such.
It is mentioned in Vengeful Spirit that The Emperor went to Molech millennia before He appeared there ahead of the Great Crusade. Also Horus didn't "steal" the Chaos God's powers, The Emperor did, Horus however, earned it by fighting in the Warp for the various Gods. The Emperor and Horus both apparently spent about 300 years in the Warp however only seconds had passed in the Material realm.
Yuvath gate? The godemperor _was_ looking at making the equivalent of autonomous roomba he could program to clean up his galaxy and needed a power source.
I think that there's something to the theory that the Emperor knew that the Primarchs would be scattered/messed with by Chaos in some way. One of the Horus Heresy books states that the Emperor "new that his sons must be of humanity in order to lead humanity," and the theme of Space Marines and Primarchs contemplating their humanity is really key to their character. Maybe Big-E new that the Chaos gods would try to scatter his sons, but played into their hand to make them think they won while still serve his own purpose (complicated, but plausible)? Perhaps this was something he foresaw and could not find a way around, so he rolled with it? Just a thought.
Learn from Logar kids, chaos is a gateway drug.
i thought one of the missing ones was chosen as thePrimarch of the grey knights and therefore thats the reason hes not in records as that entire chapter was removed until the first date in which they return which was when they were needed
Nope, loyalists from the traitor legions.
I always thought the golden age of tech was ruined by chaos, specifically corruption of all the AI, and not predicted by big E. I think after that he decided to find out just what kind of creatures caused this he went to find out why. I suspect when they told him why, for food and sport, he got pissed as hell.
29:46 didn't you tell in some other video that E wasn't that genocidal concerning aliens as long as they were no threat to the humanity and the whole xeno scum exterminatus thing started way after he took a seat?
Do you think the primarchs ending up on human worlds could've had something to do with them being somehow imbued with the will to lead people and thus being subconsciously drawn to human worlds with people similar to them as they passed through the wrap?
The Crusade was going great.
Then Lorgar found religion...
It is hard to tell what you mean about pre-Horus Heresy lore concerning the Primarchs, so I won't comment about this. But it is pretty clear from the book "the Outcast Dead" that Arik Taranis is the Primarch of the Thunder Warriors. There are several clues, but the most telling is at the very end of the book, when he is able to produce an organ that will allow both Ghota and Arik to live, he tells Ghota that they have succeeded, "Yes, my son, ... life".
magnus:
i hate my father becasue i dont have spines
new idea for a drinking game. Every time he says "we'll get into that some other time" take a shot, i guarantee you'll be fucked up by the end of the video
Can a chaos mutation only be given to a willing host? Or can it be given to anyone at anytime? If that's so, the. What's stopping Khorne from giving vast chunks of empire soldiers tentacles growing out of their faces?
I do like the thought of that each Primarch was made for a certain purpose. Makes me kinda want to think about what were each of their purpose in the Emperor’s grand plan.
"My video on Lorgar will be rather sympathetic to him"
The video on Lorgar: "he is the closest thing to evil on 40k"