This is a great and very informative video! For those looking to get a GT-2, you can get a similar adapter to the GA-2 from JJC that’s made of aluminum, not plastic, without the contacts (so it didn’t force the crop mode) for around $20 USD. I’ve tried both, and the JJC one is vastly superior and gives more flexibility. Just some food for thought!
Careful with those adapters. They work, but the camera doesn't recognize them. This means that distortions of the teleconverter are not corrected and - more importantly - the shake reduction system will not work correctly. The shake reduction of the GRIII is affected by the focal length. I use the JJC adapter for filters only, not the converter.
Thanks, for the test and tip! I would agree that using the GT-2 on a GRIII to get the focal length of the GRIIIx would detract from the compactness and simplicity of the GR III/x. However, if you have the GRIIIx and want to have the option to get more reach from time to time it is a small thing to bring.
I am also interested to try this, I think GA-2 is 49mm, a seller of GW-4 told me that it is 43mm, I have the GR3x, can you confirm this combination works fine? thanks
When you mount the GA-2 even without a lens, does it automatically enable crop mode? I have it but not the lens and have not noticed it enableing crop mode for me, i donot have the electrical contacts covered
Thanks: some may wish to use this type of extension lens but I think it detracts from the whole idea of the GR3X camera. A point and shoot camera should simply fit in your pocket and additional features and add-ons detract from that. Just my thoughts.
My E-PL7 is the same size as the Ricoh GR3X and fits in jeans pocket with the PZ14-42 on. The PZ45-175 is the size of a can of tonic water. Both lenses can carry the DMW-GTC1 x2 TC which is the size of an eggcup. Me, I prefer a little more versatility than a fixed lens. Mind you, I used an Instamatic 127 film (Agfa ISO-Pak) for years - fixed focus lens, 1/30 or 1/60, press the shutter.
Hello, Mr. Sulanto, I wanted to ask you if you can compare two shots of the same subject taken one with the 71mm crop and the other with the GT-2…I haven't found any reviews that have done so…and it would be interesting to see if there are any great differences…besides of course the different file size. Thank you.
I have the old GW-3 wide angle converter from my old GR and it seems to work quite well with the GR3. Only the old GH-3 plastic adapter doesn't fit, I'm debating whether I should file off the plastic rail on the old adapter or get the GA-1 adapter and try to use it with the GW-3.
Thank you again, another great video. I tend to agree, the neat as-is little tech of the GR3/x is simply good as-is. Like the saying less is more. This being said though, I would like to know the physical limitations the make the GR3 not desirable for a telephoto lens converter. I would consider a converter to say more of a 35/40mm equiv. focal length with my GR3 when say I want to setup some portrait shots. Do you know why they only have wide converter for the GR3?
Nice, simple clip-on clip-off. The DMW-GTC1 is similar small and quick clip-on TC for the MFT PZ14-42 (although I use it on the PZ45-175), but I wish it had decent caps that didn't slip off in the pocket so it gets covered in fluff.
Nice video! I just got my gt-2 lens and strated testing out. by the way, where did you get that lens cap at 5:08 ? cause mine didn't come with the lens cap.
Yeah - Olympus do not seem to have a rational numbering system for their lens-front adapters. The IS300 is similar fitting to my Camedia 2040Z (2Mp!!!). I have got away with using an Oly 0.8x wide on MFT, it's a bit of a waste of milk and better to use a proper wide lens. I picked up that lens because I wanted the discontinued adapter tube it came with to use the 2040Z with an IR filter. The Panasonic DMW-GTC1 rocking horse poo does work though if the lens has a small enough iris. The rear lens of the converter is quite small and won't play the game with a large front element or a fast prime. With these lenses there is a small range of focus distances, analogy eye-relief, outside of which they will not work - like when putting them on the wrong lens with a stack of adapter rings.
It's not recommended to use additional lenses like telephoto on a Ricoh GR camera becoz it causes tunnel distortion and 30% of the picture around the border becomes too soft and unusable. Ricoh anticipated people using external lenses and they have two features in the settings, 1) crop factor and 2) option to let the sensor know you are using extended lens. One good thing using external lens is you can always use a 21mm wider lens without crop factor or softer border in the picture.
Question is, why is there no Wide Angle Adapter for the GR3x and no Tele Adapter for zhe GR3? Are they assuming that a typical GR-Shooter will purchase both, the GR3 and GR3x most of the time?
That is a very good question. I think it's possible to use those tele and wide adapters also on the "wrong" camera, if you have the adapter tube that fits on the camera. I think both adapters have the same 49mm thread. I have not tried that though. Of course that's not what Ricoh intended, I suppose.
I think they are genuinely going for a pure approach of accessories designed to work with specific cameras and lenses, trying to offer an additional optic that doesn’t degrade or depart too much from the original design. So the wide angle won’t work well enough with the x and the tele with the iii. I have sympathy with them but as soon as you created optional lenses for the GR cameras you walked away from what makes it so great, pocketability and instant start up, shoot etc. A bit like the Olympus pro primes (I might let off the 20mm F1.4) as soon as you create these bigger and heavier and better lenses you ask the question why M43, as soon as you buy all these things to screw onto a GR, why not buy a system camera? There will be some users who can get more from their GR with these additional accessories, no harm, no foul.
@@petegleeson1 hello, I am using a standard ricoh gr iii und some times, not often, I miss a 50mm standard lens. So I would be very interested to see some sample pictures from the ricoh gr iii gt-2 combo.
Thank you for the video and testing. I think that camera companies are really forced to offer accessories like this. Even cell phones now have similar accessory lenses so they have to keep up. The two piece design might mean that additional cameras will use the same optics, but perhaps a different adapter, or the same adapter will support more optics in the future. This probably sounds terrible to a real photographer, but I sometimes use my lumix G9 plus PL 42.5 lens with the electronic magnifying to get the picture that I want, even though it crops the sensor. Honestly I wish there were more magnifying steps available. We need to be flexible with how people use cameras in less than ideal situations and budgets so that camera companies stay in business. Again, thank you for your great ongoing work and dedication.
What is the difference of using a teleconverter lens vs just straight up cropping my shot using the standard lens? I'm still very new to photography and thinking of buying a gr3x soon! Does it zoom while keeping more details/sharpness? Because I know that cropping too much will sort of blur or make you lose megapixels. I really do love the standard lens of GR3X but id liek to use a zoom fucntion especially when Im quite far like shooting a perfomance or something I cannot physically get closer. TY!
With the teleconverter you'll get more pixels in your final photo compared to cropping. That essentially means better image quality. If you really want a zoom lens then you'll have to look for another camera. The GR3/x is all about one single focal length in my opinion.
@@mattisulanto Thanks for the reply! I actually need a compact one too! I often attend concerts when im not travelling and they wont allow cameras that are professional looking or ones that are as big as an X100V. So Im torn between GR3X + GT2 or a Sony RX100VII. I just really prefer the image quality and color of the ricoh. The GT2 zoom + if I crop it, that should be enough I guess? If I were on the front-ish/VIP section. I currently only use my S22 Ultra and often go for x10 or x30 zoom, it does the job but im not so happy with the quality at most times. Apologies for the long reply! Guess I just need a second opinion on GR3X vs RX100VII. I'm happy to show sample photos from my S22 and how far I was from the stage, if that would help :D
@@min10596 I'm afraid you'll have to decide that on your own. Would be the best if you could borrow the Sony and see what it can do, but may not be possible. Every camera is a compromise and you have to choose the best one for you.
Hi, I am interested to use the GT-2 on a Lumix LX 100ii. Is it possible to connect the gt-2 with a 43mm-to-49mm-adapter with the GT-2 and in your opinion, could this work? Thanks Siegfried
Now that would be an experiment and there is only one way to find out. Try it and see. The GT-2 has glass elements and I think it's a little heavy to be mounted on the zoom of the LX100.
@@mattisulanto : Thank You, indeed the weight with around 200g could be a problem. I first want to try the Panasonic DMW-GTC1 GU Tele-Konverter, which is just 80 g.
Thanks for the speedy response Matti, much appreciated. I've tried to find out but nowhere seems to mention it. Do you happen to remember if there were any theads there?
I,personally believe,that one SHOULD stick to what one choose before!!! Fixed lens camera are just like that....and in this case th GrIII with the converter is just huge....😒 I have the Fujifilm X100V and yes,sometimes i use the digital zoom 🤭🤭 but is only a fraction of the photos i take. To solve this "problem" i bought a Xpro 3 and the 35mm f1.4.😁
Olympus have done and still do lens front converter lenses mainly intended for their compact cameras (e.g. Camedia), they also use separately sold tubes to adapt them because the lenses fit several cameras all with oddball size threads like 40.5mm. Lumix bridge cameras have similar but not as an extensive (and confusing) range. The pop-out lens mechanisms are too weak to carry such chunks of glass, the lenses proper rarely have filter threads. There are a number of cheap after-market lenses available, these are generally rubbish. The own brand lenses are effective. The separately sold tubes (aka adapter rings) allow the use of things like microscope adapters (an Olympus speciality), general camera filters (typically polarising), and "macro filters" (close focus lenses). Both Olympus and Panasonic have made lens front TC for some of their MFT. They're not well advertised. These are quite good and can be adapter-ringed onto other lenses despite their special fixings. E.g. the DMW-GTC1 can be adapted to the PZ 45-175 even though it vignettes like hell at the wide end (but you only use a x2 at the long end). With the intended PZ 14-42 it is easier to carry a longer lens but the tiny PZ 45-175 is fun pushed out to 350mm with the TC hidden inside the hood.
this is the pt where i think Sony's RX100 series (up to the rx100v) shine. So much more compact, better image stabilization, and being able to zoom with maximum aperture of f2.8
If you want other lenses, you bought the wrong camera; its genius is the form factor and the image quality. Plenty of other good choices for lens versatility.
@@mattisulanto haha it's just nostalgia of playing the game map..... I'm using Lumix g9 with 12-35mm f2.8 because of ur recommendation and I still love it!! it is a beast. i'm considering the Ricoh for 2nd camera but still hesitate.....
@@arkeneumnoah5461 I wouldn’t hesitate if you have the ££ or euros or dollars. They are a fab addition to a system set up for the many times you dont want to lug a system around, or you want to be as invisible as possible. The shooting experience is also (for me at least) different again, it encourages its own approach. Plus when I am somewhere rough it disappears into my coat pocket!
@@mattisulanto GW-4 is the x0.75 wide angle conversion lens for the griii. I got the griiix but occasionally want to shoot a little wider, after doing a bit of research online I found that GW-4 works quite well griiix so I went out and got one(the resulting 30mm equivalent focal length comes out with good results although not quite as sharp in general). However I saw in some forums that the GT-2 does not play nice with griii.
They don't include the kit because they want to rip off their customers! Also the fact that the GA1 and GA2 do not interchange between the 3 and the 3x is another pain.
This is a great and very informative video! For those looking to get a GT-2, you can get a similar adapter to the GA-2 from JJC that’s made of aluminum, not plastic, without the contacts (so it didn’t force the crop mode) for around $20 USD. I’ve tried both, and the JJC one is vastly superior and gives more flexibility. Just some food for thought!
Thanks for the tip.
Careful with those adapters. They work, but the camera doesn't recognize them. This means that distortions of the teleconverter are not corrected and - more importantly - the shake reduction system will not work correctly. The shake reduction of the GRIII is affected by the focal length. I use the JJC adapter for filters only, not the converter.
Thanks
Thank you so much!
Thanks!
Thank You!
Thanks, for the test and tip! I would agree that using the GT-2 on a GRIII to get the focal length of the GRIIIx would detract from the compactness and simplicity of the GR III/x. However, if you have the GRIIIx and want to have the option to get more reach from time to time it is a small thing to bring.
Thanks for watching.
There are tons and tons of 49mm thread tele conversion lenses on ebay, i'm wondering how a 2X conversion lens would fare. I'll try it out. lol
I am using the GW-4 with the GA-2 adapter. Works opposite and turns the GRiiiX to a 30mm. Happy with it, will use it more for landscape.
Thanks. That sounds interesting.
I am also interested to try this, I think GA-2 is 49mm, a seller of GW-4 told me that it is 43mm, I have the GR3x, can you confirm this combination works fine? thanks
@@dee_seejay so, gt-4 has 43mm or 49mm ring? If the seller has a 43mm gt-4, that is the right lens? Thanks
@@dee_seejay thanks!!!
When you mount the GA-2 even without a lens, does it automatically enable crop mode? I have it but not the lens and have not noticed it enableing crop mode for me, i donot have the electrical contacts covered
Thanks: some may wish to use this type of extension lens but I think it detracts from the whole idea of the GR3X camera. A point and shoot camera should simply fit in your pocket and additional features and add-ons detract from that. Just my thoughts.
Thanks for sharing. We seem to share the same view😀
My E-PL7 is the same size as the Ricoh GR3X and fits in jeans pocket with the PZ14-42 on. The PZ45-175 is the size of a can of tonic water. Both lenses can carry the DMW-GTC1 x2 TC which is the size of an eggcup.
Me, I prefer a little more versatility than a fixed lens. Mind you, I used an Instamatic 127 film (Agfa ISO-Pak) for years - fixed focus lens, 1/30 or 1/60, press the shutter.
Hello, Mr. Sulanto, I wanted to ask you if you can compare two shots of the same subject taken one with the 71mm crop and the other with the GT-2…I haven't found any reviews that have done so…and it would be interesting to see if there are any great differences…besides of course the different file size. Thank you.
Unfortunately I have returned the GT-2 already, since it was only on loan.
@@mattisulanto Thanks for your quick response.
I have the old GW-3 wide angle converter from my old GR and it seems to work quite well with the GR3. Only the old GH-3 plastic adapter doesn't fit, I'm debating whether I should file off the plastic rail on the old adapter or get the GA-1 adapter and try to use it with the GW-3.
Thanks for that info.
Thank you again, another great video. I tend to agree, the neat as-is little tech of the GR3/x is simply good as-is. Like the saying less is more. This being said though, I would like to know the physical limitations the make the GR3 not desirable for a telephoto lens converter. I would consider a converter to say more of a 35/40mm equiv. focal length with my GR3 when say I want to setup some portrait shots. Do you know why they only have wide converter for the GR3?
Nice, simple clip-on clip-off.
The DMW-GTC1 is similar small and quick clip-on TC for the MFT PZ14-42 (although I use it on the PZ45-175), but I wish it had decent caps that didn't slip off in the pocket so it gets covered in fluff.
Nice video! I just got my gt-2 lens and strated testing out. by the way, where did you get that lens cap at 5:08 ? cause mine didn't come with the lens cap.
Very interesting, I have a 1.45 converter for my old Olympus IS300 camera and I noticed something similar when I used it with my EM5
Thanks for sharing.
Yeah - Olympus do not seem to have a rational numbering system for their lens-front adapters. The IS300 is similar fitting to my Camedia 2040Z (2Mp!!!).
I have got away with using an Oly 0.8x wide on MFT, it's a bit of a waste of milk and better to use a proper wide lens. I picked up that lens because I wanted the discontinued adapter tube it came with to use the 2040Z with an IR filter.
The Panasonic DMW-GTC1 rocking horse poo does work though if the lens has a small enough iris. The rear lens of the converter is quite small and won't play the game with a large front element or a fast prime.
With these lenses there is a small range of focus distances, analogy eye-relief, outside of which they will not work - like when putting them on the wrong lens with a stack of adapter rings.
It's not recommended to use additional lenses like telephoto on a Ricoh GR camera becoz it causes tunnel distortion and 30% of the picture around the border becomes too soft and unusable. Ricoh anticipated people using external lenses and they have two features in the settings, 1) crop factor and 2) option to let the sensor know you are using extended lens. One good thing using external lens is you can always use a 21mm wider lens without crop factor or softer border in the picture.
Question is, why is there no Wide Angle Adapter for the GR3x and no Tele Adapter for zhe GR3? Are they assuming that a typical GR-Shooter will purchase both, the GR3 and GR3x most of the time?
That is a very good question. I think it's possible to use those tele and wide adapters also on the "wrong" camera, if you have the adapter tube that fits on the camera. I think both adapters have the same 49mm thread. I have not tried that though. Of course that's not what Ricoh intended, I suppose.
I think they are genuinely going for a pure approach of accessories designed to work with specific cameras and lenses, trying to offer an additional optic that doesn’t degrade or depart too much from the original design. So the wide angle won’t work well enough with the x and the tele with the iii. I have sympathy with them but as soon as you created optional lenses for the GR cameras you walked away from what makes it so great, pocketability and instant start up, shoot etc. A bit like the Olympus pro primes (I might let off the 20mm F1.4) as soon as you create these bigger and heavier and better lenses you ask the question why M43, as soon as you buy all these things to screw onto a GR, why not buy a system camera? There will be some users who can get more from their GR with these additional accessories, no harm, no foul.
@@petegleeson1 hello, I am using a standard ricoh gr iii und some times, not often, I miss a 50mm standard lens. So I would be very interested to see some sample pictures from the ricoh gr iii gt-2 combo.
Thank you for the video and testing. I think that camera companies are really forced to offer accessories like this. Even cell phones now have similar accessory lenses so they have to keep up.
The two piece design might mean that additional cameras will use the same optics, but perhaps a different adapter, or the same adapter will support more optics in the future.
This probably sounds terrible to a real photographer, but I sometimes use my lumix G9 plus PL 42.5 lens with the electronic magnifying to get the picture that I want, even though it crops the sensor. Honestly I wish there were more magnifying steps available.
We need to be flexible with how people use cameras in less than ideal situations and budgets so that camera companies stay in business.
Again, thank you for your great ongoing work and dedication.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
Thank you for this information.
Glad it was helpful!
What is the difference of using a teleconverter lens vs just straight up cropping my shot using the standard lens? I'm still very new to photography and thinking of buying a gr3x soon! Does it zoom while keeping more details/sharpness? Because I know that cropping too much will sort of blur or make you lose megapixels. I really do love the standard lens of GR3X but id liek to use a zoom fucntion especially when Im quite far like shooting a perfomance or something I cannot physically get closer. TY!
With the teleconverter you'll get more pixels in your final photo compared to cropping. That essentially means better image quality. If you really want a zoom lens then you'll have to look for another camera. The GR3/x is all about one single focal length in my opinion.
@@mattisulanto Thanks for the reply! I actually need a compact one too! I often attend concerts when im not travelling and they wont allow cameras that are professional looking or ones that are as big as an X100V. So Im torn between GR3X + GT2 or a Sony RX100VII. I just really prefer the image quality and color of the ricoh. The GT2 zoom + if I crop it, that should be enough I guess? If I were on the front-ish/VIP section. I currently only use my S22 Ultra and often go for x10 or x30 zoom, it does the job but im not so happy with the quality at most times. Apologies for the long reply! Guess I just need a second opinion on GR3X vs RX100VII. I'm happy to show sample photos from my S22 and how far I was from the stage, if that would help :D
@@min10596 I'm afraid you'll have to decide that on your own. Would be the best if you could borrow the Sony and see what it can do, but may not be possible. Every camera is a compromise and you have to choose the best one for you.
@@mattisulanto Gotcha Thanks! I'll see if I can try one out. because unfortunately they dont have return policy here in where I live.
any of you guys getting the lens error when accidentally hitting the macro setting when the converter is on?
I can't say I have noticed.
Hi, I am interested to use the GT-2 on a Lumix LX 100ii. Is it possible to connect the gt-2 with a 43mm-to-49mm-adapter with the GT-2 and in your opinion, could this work? Thanks Siegfried
Now that would be an experiment and there is only one way to find out. Try it and see. The GT-2 has glass elements and I think it's a little heavy to be mounted on the zoom of the LX100.
@@mattisulanto : Thank You, indeed the weight with around 200g could be a problem. I first want to try the Panasonic DMW-GTC1 GU Tele-Konverter, which is just 80 g.
Hi, Can you fit a filter to the front of the Teleconverter? If so, what size is it? Thx
Unfortunately I can't access the GT-2 right now and can't double check that. Maybe you can find that info elsewhere.
Thanks for the speedy response Matti, much appreciated. I've tried to find out but nowhere seems to mention it. Do you happen to remember if there were any theads there?
@@MeanGreeny At the moment I'm literally 10000km away from the GT-2🙂Unfortunately I don't remember if there were any threads or not.
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You can use a 62mm filter on the GT-2 - I use one myself and it works great!
Thank goodness you didn’t do another video telling us why our gear is good enough ;D
Tell me about it. I almost did😀
I,personally believe,that one SHOULD stick to what one choose before!!! Fixed lens camera are just like that....and in this case th GrIII with the converter is just huge....😒
I have the Fujifilm X100V and yes,sometimes i use the digital zoom 🤭🤭 but is only a fraction of the photos i take. To solve this "problem" i bought a Xpro 3 and the 35mm f1.4.😁
Thanks for sharing.
@@mattisulanto I (we) should thank you for your hard work in the making of this videos! Cheers from Switzerland! 🇨🇭
Nice add-on for occasional use. But no replacement for a system camera.
Thanks. No system camera for sure.
Wonderful hat! With love from Ukraine!❤
Thanks.
Hi, Could the original GR3 use GT-2?
Unfortunately I don't know. Maybe you visit Ricoh home page and see if they have any compatibility info.
thanks for sharing idea! now I cleared my filfthy desire of money wasting. Kittos Paljon!
Glad I could help!
Olympus have done and still do lens front converter lenses mainly intended for their compact cameras (e.g. Camedia), they also use separately sold tubes to adapt them because the lenses fit several cameras all with oddball size threads like 40.5mm. Lumix bridge cameras have similar but not as an extensive (and confusing) range. The pop-out lens mechanisms are too weak to carry such chunks of glass, the lenses proper rarely have filter threads. There are a number of cheap after-market lenses available, these are generally rubbish. The own brand lenses are effective.
The separately sold tubes (aka adapter rings) allow the use of things like microscope adapters (an Olympus speciality), general camera filters (typically polarising), and "macro filters" (close focus lenses).
Both Olympus and Panasonic have made lens front TC for some of their MFT. They're not well advertised. These are quite good and can be adapter-ringed onto other lenses despite their special fixings. E.g. the DMW-GTC1 can be adapted to the PZ 45-175 even though it vignettes like hell at the wide end (but you only use a x2 at the long end). With the intended PZ 14-42 it is easier to carry a longer lens but the tiny PZ 45-175 is fun pushed out to 350mm with the TC hidden inside the hood.
Thanks for sharing.
Ohhh cool
this is the pt where i think Sony's RX100 series (up to the rx100v) shine. So much more compact, better image stabilization, and being able to zoom with maximum aperture of f2.8
Yes, if you need zoom the RX100 is a much better choice.
Kudos for the hat!
Thank you.
If you want other lenses, you bought the wrong camera; its genius is the form factor and the image quality. Plenty of other good choices for lens versatility.
Thanks for sharing.
00:48 this remind me of counter strike lol
I hope that is a positive comment😀
@@mattisulanto haha it's just nostalgia of playing the game map..... I'm using Lumix g9 with 12-35mm f2.8 because of ur recommendation and I still love it!! it is a beast. i'm considering the Ricoh for 2nd camera but still hesitate.....
@@arkeneumnoah5461 I wouldn’t hesitate if you have the ££ or euros or dollars. They are a fab addition to a system set up for the many times you dont want to lug a system around, or you want to be as invisible as possible. The shooting experience is also (for me at least) different again, it encourages its own approach. Plus when I am somewhere rough it disappears into my coat pocket!
i went the other way and got the gw4 :D
Thanks for sharing. I have no idea what the gw4 might be, though😀
@@mattisulanto GW-4 is the x0.75 wide angle conversion lens for the griii. I got the griiix but occasionally want to shoot a little wider, after doing a bit of research online I found that GW-4 works quite well griiix so I went out and got one(the resulting 30mm equivalent focal length comes out with good results although not quite as sharp in general). However I saw in some forums that the GT-2 does not play nice with griii.
Imagine, in the USA it is not on the market and cannot be bought....
Nice beanie 🇺🇦✌️
Thanks!
They don't include the kit because they want to rip off their customers! Also the fact that the GA1 and GA2 do not interchange between the 3 and the 3x is another pain.
Nice but..... keep it simple.
Yep😀
Wouldn't it be much more clever for Ricoh to make a G3y with a prime 2,8/60mm (equiv. 90mm)? That would be something really unique on the market.
Maybe they'll come up with something like that in the future.
Thanks
Thanks so much!