Doctor Sleep Reaction: th-cam.com/video/D-ZPsrgRfPk/w-d-xo.html We have FULL LENGTH REACTIONS on our Patreon and EARLY ACCESS to Midsommar, Everything Everywhere All at Once, Reservoir Dogs, and Pulp Fiction! ▶ www.patreon.com/c/raggedypack Come hang out in our Discord! ▶ discord.gg/HQFtGkCf37
Shelley Duvall doesn't get enough credit for how brilliantly she played Wendy. She comes across as such a weak fool at the beginning, but when push comes to shove she rises to every occasion and got her son snd herself out of there alive and then drives a freaking tank down a mountain. Wendy is an absolute gangster.
I try to defend her often. I think some of the disconnect comes from Nicholson having so much natural charisma to most people, and Shelley not being conventionally attractive by Hollywood’s ridiculous standards. Kubrick was absolutely genius in his ability to manipulate the audience into somewhat sympathizing with Jack. Wendy put her neck on the line trying to protect Danny despite her frailty compared to her husband, and despite having no reason to think anyone would be coming to help. She tried at every turn to break him out his moods with kindness, and yet people dump on her all the time. I say she’s a hero.
@stevesheroan4131 YES!! King himself doesn't even see the disconnect - while he's complained about this movie since it came out - most likely due to the fact that it was semi-autibiogrsphical while he was struggling with his own alcoholism. Book-Wendy is a drop-dead gorgeous, highly intelligent blonde. In other words, someone who would never be with a guy like Jack in a million years. Kubrick was 100% correct to make this change, and Shelley knocked it out of the park. The other complaint I hear most often is that Jack starts out too crazy in the movie, which has always baffled me because the first paragraph of the book describes Jack having to literally fight the urge to physically attack Ullman during his interview. Movie-Jack acts exactly like who he is; an alcoholic loser in constant denial over just how close to going over the edge he really is. I think we've all known people/couples like this.
@ I know it all too well, because I used to be the Jack in a relationship like that. I’m much reformed from those days, and this movie is a reminder to not go back down that road for me. I give the book and movie equal credit, and I think they both reach their goals, they just have very different goals. I wonder if fans of the book would still be so up in arms if Kubrick had called the movie “The Caretaker” and said it was loosely based on the Steven King book called The Shining. Maybe some of them could find the value in both under that premise, maybe even Steven King himself.
@stevesheroan4131 I'm really glad you are doing so well. The book is great, I just don't think it's the holy grail some fans seem to regard it as, and you're right they are both different enough to be enjoyed on their own terms. Ironically, King did finally produce his vision for the book, as a 3-part miniseries in 1999, starring Steven Weber and Rebecca' De Morney as Jack and Wendy, and Uh-Huh from The Little Rascals as Danny, and the nicest thing I can sat about it is that it's kind of fun in a MST3K kind of way. Doctor Sleep somehow managed to do the impossible; brought closure to fans of both the original film, and the book.
Nah, the thoughts just popped into his head (has happened to me before, no lie) lol. I don't know whose thoughts they are, there's no "voice", it's just the words. Weird when it happens, even for me. But cool too.
Y'all nailed it. Jack had the Shining too but he didn't believe or know that it was just visions from the past. Because of that, the spirits in the hotel were able to manipulate him, because he thought everything was real. Danny knew they were just visions of the past, so Chef Halloran really saved him in the beginning of the movie.
Funny Matthew mentioned the hotel manager being smug. The famous opening sentence of King's novel is... "Jack Torrance thought: Officious little prick." While sitting in the interview with Mr. Ullman.
Not having seen any Jack Nicholson movie is one thing, but not even knowing of him must be embarrassing, especially when you run a movie reaction channel.
@@TR13400actually, here's an interesting fact!! there's not much gore in that film at all. the atmosphere is just so oppressive and terrifying, so well done, that people come away thinking it was much more violent than it actually was.
Yeah, and nowadays they'd have to preach at you about identity politics and crap on about somebody's "journey" etc. Go check out these films from the 1970s and 1980s (I have included short extracts from their respective wikis) - nowadays, Barbie lol: THE EXORCIST (1973) "Regan's condition worsens as her body becomes covered with sores. The detective visits, telling Chris that the only plausible explanation for the man's death is that he was pushed from Regan's window. As the detective leaves, Regan has another violent fit, stabbing her vagina with a crucifix and turning her head backwards." TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE (1974): "Hoping to barter for gas, Kirk enters the house. A large man wearing a mask made of skin attacks Kirk with a hammer, killing him. When Pam enters the house, she finds its living room strewn with human and animal bones. The man grabs her, impales her on a meat hook, and starts up a gas-powered chainsaw to dismember Kirk's body as Pam watches. In the evening, Jerry searches for Pam and Kirk. When he enters the other house, he finds Pam's nearly-dead, spasming body in a chest freezer. The masked man kills Jerry with a hammer." IN THE REALM OF THE SENSES (1976): "In 1936 Tokyo, Sada Abe is a former prostitute who now works as a maid in a hotel. The hotel's owner Kichizo Ishida molests her, and the two begin an intense affair that consists of sexual experiments and various self-indulgences. Ishida leaves his wife to pursue his affair with Sada. Sada becomes increasingly possessive and jealous of Ishida, and Ishida more eager to please her. Their mutual obsession escalates until Ishida finds that she is most excited by strangling him during lovemaking, and he is killed in this fashion. Sada then severs his penis. While she is shown next to him naked, it is mentioned that she will walk around with his penis inside her for several days. Words written with blood can be read on his chest: "Sada Kichi the two of us forever." COME AND SEE (1985): "Flyora is taken to the village of Perekhody, where they hurriedly discuss a fake identity for him, while an SS Einsatzkommando unit, accompanied by collaborators from the Russian Liberation Army and Schutzmannschaft Batallion 118, surround and occupy the village. Flyora tries to warn the townsfolk as they are being herded to their deaths, but is forced to join them inside a barn church. Flyora and a young woman are allowed to escape the church, but the latter is dragged by her hair into a truck to be gang raped. Flyora is forced to watch as several Molotov cocktails and grenades are thrown onto and within the church before it is further set ablaze with a flamethrower as other soldiers shoot into the building." PLATOON (1986): "Barnes aggressively interrogates the village chief about whether the villagers have been aiding the NVA, and kills his wife when she confronts him. Elias then gets into a physical altercation with Barnes over the killing before Wolfe pacifies them and orders the supplies destroyed and the village razed. Taylor later prevents two girls from being gang-raped by some of Barnes' men. Overwhelmed, Taylor breaks down sobbing as he glares down at multiple craters full of corpses, narrating how the war has changed him forever." SOCIETY (1989): "An ordinary teenage boy discovers his family is part of a gruesome orgy cult for the social elite. They rip each other's bodies inside out." THE COOK, THE THIEF, HIS WIFE AND HER LOVER (1989): "Forced to accompany Spica is his reluctant yet elegant wife, Georgina, who soon catches the eye of a quiet regular at the restaurant: bookshop owner Michael. Under her husband's nose, with the help of the restaurant staff, Georgina carries on an affair with Michael. Ultimately, Spica learns of the affair, forcing Georgina to hide out at Michael's book depository. Boarst sends food to Georgina through his young employee Pup, a boy soprano who sings while working. Spica tortures the boy before finding the bookstore's location written in a book the boy is carrying. Spica's men storm Michael's bookshop while Georgina is visiting the boy in hospital. They torture Michael to death by force-feeding him pages from his books. Georgina discovers his body when she returns. Overcome with rage and grief, she begs Boarst to cook Michael's body, and he eventually complies. Together with all the people that Spica wronged throughout the film, Georgina confronts her husband finally at the restaurant and forces him at gunpoint to eat a mouthful of Michael's cooked body. Spica obeys, gagging. Georgina then shoots him in the head, calling him a cannibal."
Omg......you guys definitely need to watch more Jack Nicholson. Check out The Departed, Wolf, Witches of Eastwick, A Few Good Men, As Good As it Gets, Batman and One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest. He is a legend.
@deadsetondreams1988 this is way more suspenseful though. It builds throughout the whole movie, I think he'd hate that and still hide his eyes. Whereas with the Terrifier movies and most slashers, they have the release/relief of a kill happening so you know you have some time until something else happens. When you watch this the first time, the atmosphere makes it feel like something heinous could happen at any moment.
The overhead shot of the maze was a matte painting combined with live-action footage shot from the top of a tall building. It's a latent image matte, which is basically a composite done without any compositing equipment or software. You shoot your live footage with the parts of the frame that will be replaced by the painting blacked out. Then you shoot the painting on the same film frames with the live footage area blacked out.
FUN FACT: Jim Carrey first became popular, in part, from his impressions, most notable of which his imitation of Jack Nicholson's contorted facial expressions. "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" garnered Jack Nicholson one of his three Oscars.
In the book, Dick saved the day. The bear costume / guy in tux = a former owner of the hotel + his lover. The character Dick also makes an appearance in the 'IT' book - he was a cook in the Army with Mike Hanlon's dad. Jack Nicholson was a real fireman and was too efficient at chopping down the doors. A chair behind Jack when he is typing disappears then reappears in another shot.
Shelley Duvall won a Razzie ( worst performance award) for this. I dont get it, she's so believable, mostly because Kubrick was emotionally and mentally torturing her during the shoot. She never fully recovered and her story is a sad tale. RIP SHELLEY. AN ICON.
@@AubreyHodgson-qi6jv Shelley Duvall has addressed this rumor, and it has been totally debunked. In fact, she has said nothing but great things about him and even mentioned how they both sat and cried together once the shoot was complete, can link to this interview for anyone curious about their relationship. Wish people could appreciate The Shining without bringing up the same rumor every time.
That's unmitigated b.s. Duvall was a professional actor well aware of not only the prestige of making a Kubrick film but how demanding a director he was. She was dealing with mental issues that had he been aware of he probably wouldn't have hired her. She delt with these problems before the Shining and after as well. Kubrick is certainly not responsible.
You can see quite a lot of "Kubrick shots" in modern movies, the amount of respect for his work is amazing - and very well deserved. The latest and brightest example is "The Substance".
Stanley Kubrick was well known for using super cool aesthetics. You guys must go and binge on his great films. Start with 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, then jump to A CLOCKWORK ORANGE, follow it with BARRY LYNDON, DR. STRANGELOVE and keep it going .......... You will be mesmerized !!
"Cameraman's just on a big wheel behind him," had me rolling.... This, Full Metal Jacket and A Clockwork Orange are peak Kubrick if you want to see more of his genius.
Jack Nicholson is one of the biggest actors from the 60s and 70s, and even did movies beyond that. A deep rabbit hole. Easy Rider and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest were two of his other more famous movies.
this was soo satisfying to watch cos youse guys were very attentive and drew lots of connections in an especially dense film 😂 altogether each of you caught quite a lot more than most reactors ive seen; yes to MORE KUBRICK 😂😂😂😂
No CGI, but a hefty dose of steadycam, which was almost unique to this film when it came out. All of the interior shots are sets, and ungodly amounts of lights had to be used to imitate natural sunlight. The layout of the hotel set is actually physically impossible, which just adds to the disorienting feeling. I’m sure others have already added some of these obligatory and ubiquitous tidbits.
stephen king notoriously hates this film and says it’s one of his least favourite adaptations of his books. when writing the book he said he wrote jack to be a genuinely good husband and father who then becomes insane but kubrick said whilst reading the book he saw jack as a narcissist who believed he was a good husband and father but underneath was always a monster, so that’s how he wanted him to be portrayed.
Stephen King actually really disliked this movie. He said it was a good Stanley Kubrick but it wasn't his book. Having seen this and read the book, I agree. They're both fantastic but completely different.
@@paulc8588 The thing that a lot of people don't seem to understand is that a work of literature and a film are two DIFFERENT art forms. What works in one doesn't necessarily translate to the other. Films by necessity are also relatively short. Moreover, a director is entitled to his artistic vision for his film. The King novel was over 400 pages long. Things are going to be left out and changed of necessity. Personally, I'm not a Stephen King fan, but I like Kubrick's movie. It must be due to Kubrick.
Most definitely. I’ve literally owned it since it came out on Blu-ray. But never watched it until about 2 weeks ago… I was so pissed at myself for waiting so long because it was AMAZING!!! I will never forgive myself lol
Fun fact, this film was the first to do fuull on steadycam for its close shots, especially danny running, kubrick contacted the guy who created it, and seen a couple of scenes from another film and asked him to refine his invention for the type of shots he was wanting and the guy fixed his design for that type of steady cam in full sprint, and was the film that showed his invention and how much it would change filmmaking, and kubrick as a visionary to try that sort of filming shows why hes the greatest director of all time, and thank god he put faith into the steady cam creator when no one else would, without this film, the entire cinema experiences would have been truly nonexistent, i know its something everyone sees and isnt impressed with due to the fact its become a massive part of the cinema, but it was beyond revolutionary, and since youre new to kubrick, his films have meaniing in every shot, if he shows something its for a reason, especially the shots you thought werent necessary with throwing the ball and the reason was to show how big and empty it was compared to jack showing how massive the hotel was and how easyy it is to get lost and feel isolated even in such a big place, to really show how crazy it is claustrophobic while at the same time massive/
This is my favourite horror film because the idea of cabin fever is so real that it feels like a more believable type of horror. I mean I’ve read the book and there’s a lot of differences between the two. The one major plot that’s not in the movie is the supernatural element. I think if there was more of that in here then it would make sense for Jack to unravel and become more psychotic, especially as he was battling alcoholism. But the main reason why I love this movie is Jack Nicholson. He was outstanding and my favourite scene is the one where he’s walking up the stairs whilst Wendy is swinging the baseball bat. That whole dialogue was 👌🏻👏🏻🙌🏻
The furry and the guy in the tux Wendy sees getting it on in the room are Harry Derwent, the original owner / manager of the hotel and his furry friend Roger. They both have a bigger part in King's novel so it's kind of an easter egg for those who love the book, and everyone else is like WTF.
Roger's unrequited love and his abuse by Derwent in the novel breaks my heart. The hotel keeps Roger's ghost replaying his mistreatment on repeat; what hell!
In the book, Dick doesn’t die. That was a decision made for the movie. It’s part of why Stephen King hates this movie. Also for Cojo, Hill house was based on a novel written in 1959. Flannigan probably did take some inspiration but the original novel /movie came out decades earlier.
Jack dying makes the story better..in my opinion.. makes the horror more realistic because it makes sure that the evil ghosts has someone pay with their life in the end. With the other version.. yeah
This is actually the first reaction I've watched where anyone's commented on the cool effect with Wendy and Danny walking in the model maze. I saw this in the theatre, although 4 years after the film's premiere, and that particular shot amazed me! And it's not CGI, of course - computer graphics were very primitive back in 1980. I guess I am a bit of a purist who tend to dislike it when films don't adhere to the source material as much as is reasonable. "The Shining" is one of the few exceptions, I consider it one of my favourite horror films of all time. 😮 Each and every actor did a superb job (with Jack's Jack becoming iconic), the music/ambiance really help to increase the tension, the overall sound design is great, and Kubrick's direction was of course masterful.
Haunting of Hill House and Bly Manor are books. Flanagan didn't just come up with them. He expanded them and tied many stories together. He is still a genius, and was likely inspired in how he did them by Kubrik, but he didn't get story inspiration here.
Barman 33:27= Doctor Tyrell in BladeRunner (I can never get over that when it gets to the bar scene!) And yes he literally stated that he'd 'give his soul for a glass of beer' that was the entry sign to the hotel enetity! Fantastic reaction guys and yep sooo many epic shots, closeup rushes, wide pans and almost reluctant shifts, makes even the walls and ceilings feel creepy! Thanks guys!
This was great to watch. You guys were pretty perceptive with this film, figuring out that Jack had the Shining and that the hotel used it to tempt him and turn him, and your sympathy for Wendys plight- Most people miss a lot of the details.
I rather doubt that Mike Flannagan was inspired by the remote location of The Shining. Bly Manor (The Turn of the Screw - 1898) is set at a remote estate. Hill House (The Haunting of Hill House - 1958) is set at a house several miles outside of town. Being in an isolated situation is a standard trope for horror.
That opening theme is a multi-century old piece of music called Dies irae. It is the death march and it's been used to convey death and foreboding in countless works.
You probably recognize "Lloyd" from his role as the CEO of the Tyrell Corp. in Blade Runner. Joe Turkel was a great character actor who was in a couple of Kubrick's earlier films as well. He died at 95 in 2022. BTW Grady was also Alex's parole officer or therapist or something in A Clockwork Orange.
This movie still holds the record for the most repeated scene. 137 times her opening the main door. Why so often? Well, she just came to the scene from breakfast and well rested. She was in a good mood and Stanley wanted her to be frantic and out of her mind, so he made her do it over and over and over again, until she almost went mad to get the right expression from her. Stanley was a genius!
It took 127 takes for Kubrick to be happy with the baseball bat scene on the stairs. Shelley is exhausted. In real live due to swinging that bat in 127 takes. And it took them forever to get the blood coming out of the elevator just right.
Good call noticing the girls wore the same color as the title sequence, something new to see in each viewing. Just realized the bathroom is a similar shade too.
Except for the obvious aerial shots, those were all sets which replicated real locations more or less. In fact, in the exterior shot when Jack and Wendy were being shown around the Hotel, that was a mock-up of the actual facade. The Maze was also a set. Apparently, the Maze was big enough that the cast and crew would get lost in it. You actually don't see it in the aerial shots by the way. The "snow" was a mixture of Styrofoam and salt. I wonder how healthy it was. This was also one of the first films to use the Steadicam. In fact, the inventor, Garrett Brown, was the operator. There was a penultimate scene, right before the photo reveal, that was deleted soon after the film was released. It shows Wendy in hospital being visited by Ullman, the Hotel manager. He tells her everything at the Hotel is normal. No damage. No Jack. Possibly no Hallorann, either. The excised film was destroyed. To see a recreation of the lost scene, look on YT for "The Shining - Hospital Scene AI Reconstruction." Someone who actually saw the film with the deleted scene wrote the following as a comment in that video: Okay -- I have a lot of helpful specifics to offer here because I'm one of the few people lucky enough to have seen that infamous cut scene because I saw 'The Shining' on its opening day. I also had a detailed phone conversation with Barry Nelson (who played the Hotel manager, Ullman) about that sequence several years later. So -- to begin with, there were ZERO flashbacks during the scene to earlier events. And even though the first and final sequences in the hospital corridor WERE filmed, they were NOT in the film as (briefly) released to the public. What I saw was Ullman entering Wendy's hospital room, giving her the flowers, and then talking with her -- all the dialogue between them being pretty much exactly as presented in the reconstruction. With one HUGE exception. The scene was TWICE as long. This was due to much slower pacing with the almost Pinteresque pauses and hesitancy often typical of dialogue in a Kubrick film. There's also something architectural weird going on here in the AI version. In the actual scene I saw, when Ullman entered Wendy's room, she was to his LEFT, her bed against the wall to his far left. And whether he went to the side of the bed nearest the door or the windows -- i.e. to Wendy's right or her left -- when he gave her the flowers and then moved to the opposite side of the bed, I can no longer recall. And I also can't remember whether he stood the whole time or sat for part of their visit. But I do remember that when Ullman left Wendy's room THAT is where the film cut to the slow dolly into the close-up of the black & white Independance Day Ball photo with Jack and the party guests. However, Barry Nelson told me himself -- long before the script pages for the scene appeared online -- that he did shoot the scene where he greets Danny and speaks with the nurse. And then, after his visit with Wendy, a different final scene with Danny played out. Specifically, Ullman passed by Danny who was playing with his toy cars and trucks in the hospital corridor, much as he did in the hallway of The Overlook. And then, as Ullman says a passing goodbye to Danny and presses the call-button as he reaches the hospital elevators, he turns back to Danny remembering something. Then, reaching into his pocket, he withdraws the now infamous yellow tennis ball (the same one Jack was tossing against the wall and rolled down the carpet to Danny, later) and says "Here Danny...You forgot something" or "I forgot something" or just simply "Here, Danny..." and then rolls the ball down the hospital corridor to Danny who picks it up in an exact echo of the scene outside Room 237. And as Danny looks at Mr. Ullman, his eyes wide with sudden fear, Ullman just smiles benignly and steps into the elevator which closes leaving Danny still holding the tennis ball and staring in fear. And, like the AI reconstruction, that WOULD have been the cut to the final shot of the July 4th Ball photo. BUT with just the conversation between Ullman and Wendy, the scene felt tacked on, with no real resolution. Whereas, IF the scene AS DESCRIBED to me by Barry Nelson were to have been left in the film intact, I think it would have been chilling indeed, leaving no doubt as to Ulman being unambiguously in league with the dark forces inhabiting both The Overlook and Mr. Ullman himself. Could Ullmann's name be suggestive, too? Ullmann as in Nullmann or No-man??
22:35 it was indeed a zoom in digital effect on a miniature of the maze. Also… TUESDAY!!!! Edit: Also also, Dick not surviving in the movie adds to the cold nature of the film. It’s not just the scenery that’s icy, it’s the heart (right where Hollaran got axed). King criticized Kubrick’s script for “setting out to hurt people” in his eye. I don’t think King realized how right he was. This film is harsh. The family dynamics and constantly unsettling facial expressions (with unorthodox casting) really adds to the sense that nothing is quite right. Annnnd, the scenes that seem kind of pointless are interesting if you examine the layouts. Furniture will move around between shots and rooms will be in places that can not possibly exist. Kubrick indeed did this on purpose.
There's a reason Kubrick is considered a master filmmaker, and one of the greatest of all time. Keep watching Kubrick guys, I suggest Full Metal Jacket, A Clockwork Orange, and then Dr. Strangelove.
This was such a surprise getting this. I thought you'd lot had watched this before. This is a film that is those re watchable to pick up on extra bits that you missed before.
Well thank goodness ol cynical Mathew liked this. I was getting worried there for a moment and was ready to spit up my water if he said he didn't like it.😅😜 Great reaction guys and yes, this is top tier film masterpiece.
I'll even go further with Cojo and say that Jack Nicholson has the facially expressiveness of both Jack Black and Jim Carrey given Nicholson's super aggressive smile and method acting ability
LORRAINE MASSEY: First, instead of Room 237 as in the film, the book sets Lorraine Massey in The Overlook's Room 217, soaking in the tub. Unlike Mrs. Grady, whose caretaking husband axed her and her daughters, Mrs. Massey was the wife of a New York lawyer, and her death was solitary. Known for canoodling the hotel's young bellhops, Lorraine Massey found herself suddenly abandoned at The Overlook when her newest young lover drove off without her in her Porsche. Instead of accepting a ride home from hotel staff, Mrs. Massey tried to drink away her sorrows, and when that didn't work, she slit her wrists in the tub.
I saw this for the first time in 1981 when I was 10. My parents were cool and knew I loved scary movies. They never censored what I could see. I was shocked you guys have never seen a Jack Nicholson movie but in my mind I'm the same age as you.
The Overlook sets were all constructed INDOORS. When you look through the windows you are looking at indoor studio lights shining through. It's mind-blowing, isn't it? By the way- no CGI in 1979-80.
He cut the spark plugs leading into the distributor cap and pulled the cap from its gearing. It's worse that cutting a battery, as even if another battery or battery cable could be sourced, you'd need a bunch of new wires - 1 wire per cylinder - to ever get the engine to run.
... well in the book Hallorann lives, but Kubrick hated Scatman Crothers so much and did everything he could to get him to quit in favor of the actor the he originally wanted, Slim Pickens, he decided to kill the character off rather than have him be the "hero"
This movie is being referenced by many other movies. One being Jurassic Park kitchen scene where the kids were hiding in the kitchen cabinet from the raptors as Danny was hiding from Jack in The Shining.
Never watched a movie reaction before but I was up till 3 am reading this book and you popped up in the algorithm (creepy much) so I had to check it out. Fun guys!
If Dick Halloran hadn't arrived when he did, Jack would have murdered Wendy. Dick prevented that and also provided the snow cat for them to escape. Having said that, the book is quite different to the movie. You should definitely check out the sequel, Doctor Sleep. It manages to stay true to the established world of both King's first book and Kubrick's movie version (which King famously hated).
Now you just have to hop on over to the Stanley Hotel (which is the main inspiration for the Overlook) for a nice, relaxing stay. Remember, all work and no play…
The lady in the tub is not Grady's wife, but just another of the tragic figures from the Overlook's past. Fun fact... the actor playing Ullman was the first actor to ever portray James Bond, in a British TV production of Casino Royale
"he definitely has the Shining" when you see him gazing off with that crazed look while Wendy and Danny are running in the snow you hear a similar high pitched noise that you also heard when Danny was talking to Halloran. and when he goes into the bar for the first time the music plays with a similar high pitched noise. Also when Danny sees the girls he covers his eyes and they go away. When Jack is in the bar he has his eyes covered and then pulls his hands away and all of sudden he can see the bartender and the bar is fully stocked. He definitely has the Shining. He can see entire ballrooms filled with ghosts. and can have full on conversations with them. Definitely has the Shining. However, he doesnt' realize he has it. In the book, which is different than the movie, Halloran tries to guess whether Jack has the Shining and says he has something but he's too closed to say for sure what it is. But it's clear he also has the shining. And Halloran mentions that his grandmother also has the shinning so it may be hereditary. Danny probably got the shining because Jack already had it.
I didn’t see anyone talking about it, but the lodge that they show from the outside is Timberline Lodge which is in Oregon. It’s about an hour and a half from where I live but it’s literally so stunning up there. Just recently drove up there and absolutely love that it makes me think of this movie since I’m a big horror and Stephen king fan!
Surprised you guys never heard of Jack THE Nicholson haha! His son Ray Nicholson is in the new Smile 2 movie and it's amazing the resemblance! Glad you watched this classic.
A decent and intelligent reaction to a complex classic film. A film I'd classify as psychological horror. I'm glad you saw a connection to Flanagan's _Hill House._ It's actually a somewhat complicated relationship. Although I don't often subscribe to his themes, I do recognize Kubrick as a great filmmaker, and "The Shining" (TS) is certainly a masterpiece of cinema. I like it very much even though I'm not a fan of Stephen King or his books. This must be due solely to Kubrick. Well, let's also give credit to the actors and the production crew, too. As great as Nicholson and Duvall were in the film, that little boy, Danny Lloyd, really made the movie for me. I think he was five when he started filming TS. For a child that age, he was just outstanding. He himself came up with the finger puppet for Tony, his alter ego. Kudos, also, to Philip Stone and Joe Turkel for being quietly sinister and menacing. I don't want to forget good-guy Scatman Crothers, either. Well-done Scatman. Then there's the Overlook. Not only is it alive, but it is the personification of evil. TS has all the Kubrick touches. All those long hallway and hedge maze shots are one-point-perspective. That's a Kubrick trademark. Also, don't some of those nighttime hedge maze shots remind you of HAL's "eye" in 2001 a bit? They do me. Another characteristic of Kubrick is his focus on intense person-to-person interactions. Yeah, TS has just a little bit of that. By the way, isn't it weird HAL in 2001 acts like a person, and the people act like computers/robots? Those long tracking-shots as people move about the hotel are another Kubrick trait. The musical score as an integral part of the narrative of TS is also textbook Kubrick. Kubrick was a perfectionist, and that is reflected in his films. For example, background is as significant as foreground. Why does Jack's typewriter change color? Is it because Jack has been transformed? Oh, "All work and no play" goes back to at least 1659. It didn't originate with TS although it certainly fits. Why do bits of the hotel, like the furniture, for example, appear, disappear or move about? Is it because the hotel is alive? The answer is yes by the way. It's definitely not due to continuity problems. Finally, Kubrick always forces the viewer to think about and dissect his films. That certainly happens in TS. As a result, we and Kubrick share in a common creative impulse when watching TS. The film becomes a living thing. Here are a _few_ things I've noticed about TS. The film is replete with mirrors. They're everywhere. Watch how they affect Jack. Are they how the hotel projects its power? A portal of sorts? Do they also absorb power? Are they its eyes as well? Likewise, there are mazes everywhere. There's the obvious hedge maze, but the hotel itself is a maze, and so is the hallway carpet. Early on, Wendy remarks on the need for breadcrumbs, a reference to Hansel and Gretel and the maze-like quality of the hotel. TS is a variation of Theseus and the Minotaur with Danny as Theseus, Tony as Ariadne etc. Wendy also says the hotel is like a ghostship. Like in Hill House, the Hotel feeds off Danny and Jack's shining power and gets more powerful as time passes. The hotel wants Danny dead so it can absorb him and his power. Did you notice all the knives pointed at Danny's head on several occasions in the film? When Hallorann and Danny are talking in the kitchen bits of the conversation were telepathic. Numbers seem to come up a lot in the film. For example, Danny wears a shirt with 42 on the sleeve, the tv with no power cord is showing "Summer of 42," and room 237 is 2x3x7=42. Kubrick's wife said "The Summer of 42" was one of his favourite movies along with "The Bank Dick." The latter is a great movie with W. C. Fields. I love it when Danny asks Jack if he feels bad. That can be taken two ways as in do you feel evil or do you feel unwell. And, of course, Jack repeats the girls saying forever and ever, meaning I want to join with the hotel in death. Jack does, of course, sell his soul for a drink. Is that why Lloyd the bartender won't take his money? Jack's already paid in-full? The people and things Danny and Jack see are real, but only people with shining can see them at first. When Jack returns to the ballroom where the 1920s party is going on, a woman walks by him with a bloody handprint on her backside. This is about the time the advocaat is spilled on him. Jack also wipes some advocaat on Grady's back. In the bathroom scene, it's clear Grady's girls also had "the shine" and wanted to destroy the hotel, but they were killed instead and absorbed. Grady himself, probably like Jack, also had "the shine." In the conversation between Jack and Grady, Grady switches between Grady and the entity of the hotel. Jack may also switch with the "caretaker." When Jack and Wendy are being shown their apartment, Jack eyes the two departing young ladies. A sign of his lechery? Ditto the girlie magazine he's reading in the lobby early on. He definitely has a wandering eye. Even early on, he doesn't seem to hold Wendy in high regard. When Jack enters room 237, the carpet there is obviously suggestive of the sex act. Very phallic etc. Sex, in one way or other, features in many Kubrick films. Room 237 is the heart of the hotel. The nude woman represents the hotel seducing Jack. The heartbeat we hear is the hotel's and signals the hotel's malevolent activity and increasing power. We hear it overtly later in the film but weakly earlier when Danny is riding the trike on/off the carpet and when Jack is bouncing the ball. The high-pitched tone indicates "shining" is happening. So, Jack clearly shines, too. He's one of those who doesn't realize he has it. Jack several times in the film exhibits the Kubrick glare or stare, a shot of a man glowering up at the camera from beneath lowered brows, an indicator of danger or madness. You see it in "Full Metal Jacket." And I think HAL in 2001 also shows it. Doesn't HAL's red pupil change size? When Jack goes on his rant about his obligations to the hotel before Wendy conks him, he's not talking about Ullmann and co. He's talking about "the hotel," the thing that's alive. That's who he's made the contract and sold his soul to. Remember Lloyd the bartender's ominous hotel remarks. REDRUM is MURDER backwards, and it signifies anti-murder. It's a totem that protects against murder. That's why Danny writes it on the bathroom door. Jack can batter the door, but he won't get in. Danny is also warning Wendy and arming her as a result of his REDRUM recital. The photos are part of the hotel like the typewriter and furniture. When Jack dies, he's absorbed by the hotel and winds up in the 1920s photo. Towards the end, the hotel's evil spirit, the caretaker, may have abandoned Jack to die in the maze. He did fail in his task. That ball in the photo was the same one where the advocaat was spilled. So, he was there in 1921, and he wasn't. Kubrick deleted a final scene from TS. Wendy was in hospital and Ullman was visiting. He told her all was normal at the hotel. No Jack. No Hallorann. I've watched several reactions to TS, and I'm amazed at some of the observations. Got some beefs. A lot of people don't make a connection between Danny's first vision of the blood elevator, which signifies all the death at the hotel, and his passing out. They disassociate these two events when clearly they go together as the image of Danny's horrified face shows. From the get-go, it's clear Danny can see past events and future events. He knows Jack got the job and is going to call Wendy. He knows he doesn't want them to go to the hotel. He knows the hotel signifies danger. Why don't people notice that Danny's shirt and jumper are torn when he come to the Colorado Lounge after being strangled? Danny's clearly in shock, too. When Danny is foaming at the mouth and Hallorann is having his mini-fit, Danny is clearly communicating with Hallorann there is danger, come and help. How can Wendy be so sound asleep before Danny wakes her? Come on, the poor woman has been on edge for weeks. She hasn't been sleeping well. Now that she's locked crazy Jack up, she literally passes out, thinking they're safe. After Danny slides down from the bathroom window, why are people surprised he comes back into the hotel? It's freakin' cold outside. Do you live at the equator or something? After Jack kills Hallorann and Danny screams, why are people surprised when Danny bolts his hiding place? It's not a hiding place anymore, Jack knows where he is. Anyway, the hotel will lead him to Danny. Danny runs outside because he's actually luring Jack into the maze to meet his fate. Danny is the hero of TS, he's Theseus, who killed the monster in the maze.
And yet, for all of Kubrick’s “genius,” dude was too fucking lazy to actually use the music Wendy Carlos and Rachel Elkind written for The Shining instead of simply rehashing and reusing older classical music. With that being said, he’s indirectly responsible for why I started to listen to more of Krzysztof Penderecki’s musical works.
@@rodgill9376 Well, he obviously thought what he picked worked better. Given people often comment on how effective the score is, it seems he made the correct choice. That doesn't mean that what Carlos and Elkind wrote wasn't quality, it just didn't achieve the mood/atmosphere Kubrick was looking for.
The insane thing is that while it’s based on a real hotel in the U.S., the interiors of this is actually all a SET! Kubrick had his set designers meticulously copy the layout and design of the real hotel. If you watch the documentary that’s on TH-cam by Kubrick’s daughter you’ll see it. Amazing.
I'm so excited about this, can't believe you guys have never seen this. Your about to be terrified, RIP to the legend shelly duval (excuse spelling), this film with stay with you forever
Doctor Sleep Reaction: th-cam.com/video/D-ZPsrgRfPk/w-d-xo.html
We have FULL LENGTH REACTIONS on our Patreon and EARLY ACCESS to
Midsommar, Everything Everywhere All at Once, Reservoir Dogs, and Pulp Fiction!
▶ www.patreon.com/c/raggedypack
Come hang out in our Discord!
▶ discord.gg/HQFtGkCf37
"Who is Jack Nicholson?"WOW he is one of the best actors in the world
Cojo needs to watch A Clockwork Orange next, if he wants more iconic Kubrick. Then Full Metal Jacket and If..
"Who is Jack Nicholson"? 🙂 The most nominated male actor in the history of the Academy Awards.
Tied for the most wins as well.
Shelley Duvall doesn't get enough credit for how brilliantly she played Wendy. She comes across as such a weak fool at the beginning, but when push comes to shove she rises to every occasion and got her son snd herself out of there alive and then drives a freaking tank down a mountain. Wendy is an absolute gangster.
I try to defend her often. I think some of the disconnect comes from Nicholson having so much natural charisma to most people, and Shelley not being conventionally attractive by Hollywood’s ridiculous standards. Kubrick was absolutely genius in his ability to manipulate the audience into somewhat sympathizing with Jack. Wendy put her neck on the line trying to protect Danny despite her frailty compared to her husband, and despite having no reason to think anyone would be coming to help. She tried at every turn to break him out his moods with kindness, and yet people dump on her all the time. I say she’s a hero.
@stevesheroan4131 YES!! King himself doesn't even see the disconnect - while he's complained about this movie since it came out - most likely due to the fact that it was semi-autibiogrsphical while he was struggling with his own alcoholism. Book-Wendy is a drop-dead gorgeous, highly intelligent blonde. In other words, someone who would never be with a guy like Jack in a million years. Kubrick was 100% correct to make this change, and Shelley knocked it out of the park. The other complaint I hear most often is that Jack starts out too crazy in the movie, which has always baffled me because the first paragraph of the book describes Jack having to literally fight the urge to physically attack Ullman during his interview. Movie-Jack acts exactly like who he is; an alcoholic loser in constant denial over just how close to going over the edge he really is. I think we've all known people/couples like this.
@ I know it all too well, because I used to be the Jack in a relationship like that. I’m much reformed from those days, and this movie is a reminder to not go back down that road for me. I give the book and movie equal credit, and I think they both reach their goals, they just have very different goals. I wonder if fans of the book would still be so up in arms if Kubrick had called the movie “The Caretaker” and said it was loosely based on the Steven King book called The Shining. Maybe some of them could find the value in both under that premise, maybe even Steven King himself.
@stevesheroan4131 I'm really glad you are doing so well.
The book is great, I just don't think it's the holy grail some fans seem to regard it as, and you're right they are both different enough to be enjoyed on their own terms.
Ironically, King did finally produce his vision for the book, as a 3-part miniseries in 1999, starring Steven Weber and Rebecca' De Morney as Jack and Wendy, and Uh-Huh from The Little Rascals as Danny, and the nicest thing I can sat about it is that it's kind of fun in a MST3K kind of way.
Doctor Sleep somehow managed to do the impossible; brought closure to fans of both the original film, and the book.
"Is he telepathic?"
Cojo: "Nah, he's not. I think he was just reading his thoughts."
@@judson9223 Haha 😆😆😆
@@judson9223 😹😹😹😹
Nah, the thoughts just popped into his head (has happened to me before, no lie) lol. I don't know whose thoughts they are, there's no "voice", it's just the words. Weird when it happens, even for me. But cool too.
😹😹😹
@@w1975bright brother- that’s telepathy. Doesn’t necessarily have to be intentional. We all have moments of this… some far more than others.
Y'all nailed it. Jack had the Shining too but he didn't believe or know that it was just visions from the past. Because of that, the spirits in the hotel were able to manipulate him, because he thought everything was real. Danny knew they were just visions of the past, so Chef Halloran really saved him in the beginning of the movie.
The way I understood it--at least in the book--is that the hotel feeds on Shining and becomes increasingly real.
@@nathanhall9345 You cannot compare the movie to the book, they are different beasts
Damn! As much as i have watched this movie, i never picked up on that.
I couldn’t help laughing when you commented on the camera shots, zooms, etc…Stanley Kubrick was one of the greatest directors of our time.
🖤🌹🖤🧛🏻♀️
Tony is Danny's protector, he emerges when Danny is in danger, then Danny comes back when the danger passes.
"Who is Jack Nicholson?" You boys are so adorable. 🤗
Cultural ignorance
I did the same thing to my aunt when I was their age. Lol it just means we are getting older 😂
@@Jiff321 our culture isn't the same as theirs
They're not THAT young. I'm suprised they didn't remember Jack.
how old are these guys anyway? They ain't in their early 20s
Tony is his psychic/shining ability. It's a child's way of understanding his ability. He separates it from himself
That means Doctor Sleep has to be next guys. Finish it up with part two of the Danny Torrence story!!
Actually, Danny Lloyd, who played Danny in the Kubrick film, has a bit part in _Doctor Sleep._ A nice touch.
Ohhhh that movie is amazing
Came here to second this. Dr. Sleep is a MUST watch.
@@wilhelm-z4t and they snuck him in so good!!!
Loved Dr.Sleep
Funny Matthew mentioned the hotel manager being smug. The famous opening sentence of King's novel is...
"Jack Torrance thought: Officious little prick."
While sitting in the interview with Mr. Ullman.
Not having seen any Jack Nicholson movie is one thing, but not even knowing of him must be embarrassing, especially when you run a movie reaction channel.
It’s funny how they’re amazed showing such graphic stuff in the 80s. Back then movies were relentless. They’ve actually softened up since then
Lol Texas Chainsaw is one of the most twisted films i seen
@@TR13400 Nah, try Last House on the Left.
@@TR13400actually, here's an interesting fact!! there's not much gore in that film at all. the atmosphere is just so oppressive and terrifying, so well done, that people come away thinking it was much more violent than it actually was.
@@atlas6864 Yes, non-stop gore is boring and is the sign of a poor director
Yeah, and nowadays they'd have to preach at you about identity politics and crap on about somebody's "journey" etc.
Go check out these films from the 1970s and 1980s (I have included short extracts from their respective
wikis) - nowadays, Barbie lol:
THE EXORCIST (1973) "Regan's condition worsens as her body
becomes covered with sores. The detective visits, telling Chris that
the only plausible explanation for the man's death is that he was
pushed from Regan's window. As the detective leaves, Regan has another
violent fit, stabbing her vagina with a crucifix and turning her head
backwards."
TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE (1974): "Hoping to barter for gas,
Kirk enters the house. A large man wearing a mask made of skin attacks
Kirk with a hammer, killing him. When Pam enters the house, she finds
its living room strewn with human and animal bones. The man grabs her,
impales her on a meat hook, and starts up a gas-powered chainsaw to
dismember Kirk's body as Pam watches. In the evening, Jerry searches
for Pam and Kirk. When he enters the other house, he finds Pam's
nearly-dead, spasming body in a chest freezer. The masked man kills
Jerry with a hammer."
IN THE REALM OF THE SENSES (1976): "In 1936
Tokyo, Sada Abe is a former prostitute who now works as a maid in a
hotel. The hotel's owner Kichizo Ishida molests her, and the two begin
an intense affair that consists of sexual experiments and various
self-indulgences. Ishida leaves his wife to pursue his affair with
Sada. Sada becomes increasingly possessive and jealous of Ishida, and
Ishida more eager to please her. Their mutual obsession escalates
until Ishida finds that she is most excited by strangling him during
lovemaking, and he is killed in this fashion. Sada then severs his
penis. While she is shown next to him naked, it is mentioned that she
will walk around with his penis inside her for several days. Words
written with blood can be read on his chest: "Sada Kichi the two of us
forever."
COME AND SEE (1985): "Flyora is taken to the village of
Perekhody, where they hurriedly discuss a fake identity for him, while
an SS Einsatzkommando unit, accompanied by collaborators from the
Russian Liberation Army and Schutzmannschaft Batallion 118, surround
and occupy the village. Flyora tries to warn the townsfolk as they are
being herded to their deaths, but is forced to join them inside a barn
church. Flyora and a young woman are allowed to escape the church, but
the latter is dragged by her hair into a truck to be gang raped.
Flyora is forced to watch as several Molotov cocktails and grenades
are thrown onto and within the church before it is further set ablaze
with a flamethrower as other soldiers shoot into the building."
PLATOON (1986): "Barnes aggressively interrogates the village chief
about whether the villagers have been aiding the NVA, and kills his
wife when she confronts him. Elias then gets into a physical
altercation with Barnes over the killing before Wolfe pacifies them
and orders the supplies destroyed and the village razed. Taylor later
prevents two girls from being gang-raped by some of Barnes' men.
Overwhelmed, Taylor breaks down sobbing as he glares down at multiple
craters full of corpses, narrating how the war has changed him
forever."
SOCIETY (1989): "An ordinary teenage boy discovers his
family is part of a gruesome orgy cult for the social elite. They rip
each other's bodies inside out."
THE COOK, THE THIEF, HIS WIFE AND HER LOVER (1989): "Forced to accompany
Spica is his reluctant yet elegant wife, Georgina, who soon catches the eye of a quiet regular at the
restaurant: bookshop owner Michael. Under her husband's nose, with the
help of the restaurant staff, Georgina carries on an affair with
Michael. Ultimately, Spica learns of the affair, forcing Georgina to
hide out at Michael's book depository. Boarst sends food to Georgina
through his young employee Pup, a boy soprano who sings while working.
Spica tortures the boy before finding the bookstore's location written
in a book the boy is carrying. Spica's men storm Michael's bookshop
while Georgina is visiting the boy in hospital. They torture Michael
to death by force-feeding him pages from his books. Georgina discovers
his body when she returns. Overcome with rage and grief, she begs
Boarst to cook Michael's body, and he eventually complies. Together
with all the people that Spica wronged throughout the film, Georgina
confronts her husband finally at the restaurant and forces him at
gunpoint to eat a mouthful of Michael's cooked body. Spica obeys,
gagging. Georgina then shoots him in the head, calling him a
cannibal."
It’s so weird to now be the age where I see younger people asking stuff like “ who’s Jack Nicholson”?!😂. Is this what my parents felt like?
Omg......you guys definitely need to watch more Jack Nicholson. Check out The Departed, Wolf, Witches of Eastwick, A Few Good Men, As Good As it Gets, Batman and One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest. He is a legend.
I love Witches of Eastwick, so campy!!!
Lesser known, but About Schmidt is a fabulous and sadly underrated Nicholson movie!
Chinatown!
That diner scene from Five Easy Pieces 🤌🏽
The Departed!! One of my all time favorites!
RIP Shelley Duvall July 7, 1949 - July 11, 2024
Blake playing it safe this time lol
Lol lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 yer did you watch the reaction to terrifier 3 lol lol 😂😂😂😂😂 that’s was priceless but I felt same as Blake to be fair
This is tame compared to other stuff they've watched too, especially the Terrifier series!!
@deadsetondreams1988 this is way more suspenseful though. It builds throughout the whole movie, I think he'd hate that and still hide his eyes. Whereas with the Terrifier movies and most slashers, they have the release/relief of a kill happening so you know you have some time until something else happens. When you watch this the first time, the atmosphere makes it feel like something heinous could happen at any moment.
Blake simply couldn't handle it. It's ok, he's a delicate flower. ;)
@@wahn10 he could've just been busy too. You don't have to cinnamon roll him.
The overhead shot of the maze was a matte painting combined with live-action footage shot from the top of a tall building. It's a latent image matte, which is basically a composite done without any compositing equipment or software. You shoot your live footage with the parts of the frame that will be replaced by the painting blacked out. Then you shoot the painting on the same film frames with the live footage area blacked out.
FUN FACT: Jim Carrey first became popular, in part, from his impressions, most notable of which his imitation of Jack Nicholson's contorted facial expressions. "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" garnered Jack Nicholson one of his three Oscars.
Foreshadowing: Go back to the 5 minute mark and look at Jack's tie. It IS the maze.
Never knew that. Thanks!
In the book, Dick saved the day. The bear costume / guy in tux = a former owner of the hotel + his lover. The character Dick also makes an appearance in the 'IT' book - he was a cook in the Army with Mike Hanlon's dad. Jack Nicholson was a real fireman and was too efficient at chopping down the doors. A chair behind Jack when he is typing disappears then reappears in another shot.
It has been such a long time since I've read IT that I forgot that Dick was in that book. Thanks for the reminder!
in the book Jack, at the very end, comes back to sanity and saves the day
Shelley Duvall won a Razzie ( worst performance award) for this. I dont get it, she's so believable, mostly because Kubrick was emotionally and mentally torturing her during the shoot. She never fully recovered and her story is a sad tale. RIP SHELLEY. AN ICON.
I will never respect Kubrick as a director because of the way he tortured Shelley Duvall.
She had a good career well after this movie; people forget that.
She's annoying in it. I wouldn't want to spend months alone with her in a hotel
@@AubreyHodgson-qi6jv Shelley Duvall has addressed this rumor, and it has been totally debunked. In fact, she has said nothing but great things about him and even mentioned how they both sat and cried together once the shoot was complete, can link to this interview for anyone curious about their relationship. Wish people could appreciate The Shining without bringing up the same rumor every time.
That's unmitigated b.s. Duvall was a professional actor well aware of not only the prestige of making a Kubrick film but how demanding a director he was. She was dealing with mental issues that had he been aware of he probably wouldn't have hired her. She delt with these problems before the Shining and after as well. Kubrick is certainly not responsible.
LOL Matthew assuming blood in a horror movie is prune juice 😆
You can see quite a lot of "Kubrick shots" in modern movies, the amount of respect for his work is amazing - and very well deserved. The latest and brightest example is "The Substance".
This is the 80s! How’d they do this shot? It’s called filming on location, a little thing they had to do before CGI crap.
Stanley Kubrick was well known for using super cool aesthetics. You guys must go and binge on his great films. Start with 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, then jump to A CLOCKWORK ORANGE, follow it with BARRY LYNDON, DR. STRANGELOVE and keep it going .......... You will be mesmerized !!
Absolutely! There's a reason why he's the GOAT
Absolutely agreed !!! - I may add Full Metal Jacket to that list.
He is the Greatest.
"Cameraman's just on a big wheel behind him," had me rolling.... This, Full Metal Jacket and A Clockwork Orange are peak Kubrick if you want to see more of his genius.
Jack Nicholson is one of the biggest actors from the 60s and 70s, and even did movies beyond that. A deep rabbit hole. Easy Rider and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest were two of his other more famous movies.
When he said [“This would be the first time I’m seeing these actors”] - so that would be including Jack Nicholson - I almost turned this sh*t off!
The entire hotel was a huge set.
this was soo satisfying to watch cos youse guys were very attentive and drew lots of connections in an especially dense film 😂 altogether each of you caught quite a lot more than most reactors ive seen; yes to MORE KUBRICK 😂😂😂😂
No CGI, but a hefty dose of steadycam, which was almost unique to this film when it came out. All of the interior shots are sets, and ungodly amounts of lights had to be used to imitate natural sunlight. The layout of the hotel set is actually physically impossible, which just adds to the disorienting feeling. I’m sure others have already added some of these obligatory and ubiquitous tidbits.
This movie is what I imagine by now to be a cult classic.Incredible movie for its day and still standing the test of time . Brilliant
stephen king notoriously hates this film and says it’s one of his least favourite adaptations of his books. when writing the book he said he wrote jack to be a genuinely good husband and father who then becomes insane but kubrick said whilst reading the book he saw jack as a narcissist who believed he was a good husband and father but underneath was always a monster, so that’s how he wanted him to be portrayed.
Stephen King actually really disliked this movie. He said it was a good Stanley Kubrick but it wasn't his book. Having seen this and read the book, I agree. They're both fantastic but completely different.
Kubrick made this story into his own cypher, most people are not intelligent enough to see it, including King.
@@paulc8588 The thing that a lot of people don't seem to understand is that a work of literature and a film are two DIFFERENT art forms. What works in one doesn't necessarily translate to the other. Films by necessity are also relatively short. Moreover, a director is entitled to his artistic vision for his film. The King novel was over 400 pages long. Things are going to be left out and changed of necessity. Personally, I'm not a Stephen King fan, but I like Kubrick's movie. It must be due to Kubrick.
From what I remember, King liked the 90s tv remake better.
@@w1975b Well, he would. He wrote the teleplay for it. I believe he was also a major force behind the production.
definitely! it's my favourite book and my favourite film for completely different reasons lol
Never seen this movie?? You gotta be kidding me
And they tried to be comedians the whole time, which they most certainly are not.
YOU HAVE TO WATCH DR SLEEP!
Yes please! Especially having watched/watching the Flannigan universe!
Most definitely. I’ve literally owned it since it came out on Blu-ray. But never watched it until about 2 weeks ago… I was so pissed at myself for waiting so long because it was AMAZING!!! I will never forgive myself lol
@ the directors cut or the theatrical?
I prefer the Director's cut.
Horrible sequel. Big let down for me. To each their own they say.
The Barman was the same actor who played the android/Synth creator in Blade runner
ELDON TYRELL. I've watched Blade Runner at least 25 times !!
Yep. Joe Turkel, who passed away 2 years ago.
Fun fact, this film was the first to do fuull on steadycam for its close shots, especially danny running, kubrick contacted the guy who created it, and seen a couple of scenes from another film and asked him to refine his invention for the type of shots he was wanting and the guy fixed his design for that type of steady cam in full sprint, and was the film that showed his invention and how much it would change filmmaking, and kubrick as a visionary to try that sort of filming shows why hes the greatest director of all time, and thank god he put faith into the steady cam creator when no one else would, without this film, the entire cinema experiences would have been truly nonexistent, i know its something everyone sees and isnt impressed with due to the fact its become a massive part of the cinema, but it was beyond revolutionary, and since youre new to kubrick, his films have meaniing in every shot, if he shows something its for a reason, especially the shots you thought werent necessary with throwing the ball and the reason was to show how big and empty it was compared to jack showing how massive the hotel was and how easyy it is to get lost and feel isolated even in such a big place, to really show how crazy it is claustrophobic while at the same time massive/
This is my favourite horror film because the idea of cabin fever is so real that it feels like a more believable type of horror. I mean I’ve read the book and there’s a lot of differences between the two. The one major plot that’s not in the movie is the supernatural element. I think if there was more of that in here then it would make sense for Jack to unravel and become more psychotic, especially as he was battling alcoholism. But the main reason why I love this movie is Jack Nicholson. He was outstanding and my favourite scene is the one where he’s walking up the stairs whilst Wendy is swinging the baseball bat. That whole dialogue was 👌🏻👏🏻🙌🏻
The furry and the guy in the tux Wendy sees getting it on in the room are Harry Derwent, the original owner / manager of the hotel and his furry friend Roger. They both have a bigger part in King's novel so it's kind of an easter egg for those who love the book, and everyone else is like WTF.
Roger's unrequited love and his abuse by Derwent in the novel breaks my heart. The hotel keeps Roger's ghost replaying his mistreatment on repeat; what hell!
In the book, Dick doesn’t die. That was a decision made for the movie. It’s part of why Stephen King hates this movie. Also for Cojo, Hill house was based on a novel written in 1959. Flannigan probably did take some inspiration but the original novel /movie came out decades earlier.
I read somewhere that King took inspiration for the Overlook from the original Hill House book, so if that's true it's just a full circle.
Came here to say this. 😉 The original novel for Hill House was by Shirley Jackson.
Jack dying makes the story better..in my opinion.. makes the horror more realistic because it makes sure that the evil ghosts has someone pay with their life in the end. With the other version.. yeah
FYI the tricycle riding goes in the same patterns as Danny’s escape-
😳 Scary that you even know that lol! 😳😅👍
@ I’ve watched this movie a million times. Tuesday still scares me 🤣
This is actually the first reaction I've watched where anyone's commented on the cool effect with Wendy and Danny walking in the model maze. I saw this in the theatre, although 4 years after the film's premiere, and that particular shot amazed me! And it's not CGI, of course - computer graphics were very primitive back in 1980.
I guess I am a bit of a purist who tend to dislike it when films don't adhere to the source material as much as is reasonable. "The Shining" is one of the few exceptions, I consider it one of my favourite horror films of all time. 😮 Each and every actor did a superb job (with Jack's Jack becoming iconic), the music/ambiance really help to increase the tension, the overall sound design is great, and Kubrick's direction was of course masterful.
Haunting of Hill House and Bly Manor are books. Flanagan didn't just come up with them. He expanded them and tied many stories together. He is still a genius, and was likely inspired in how he did them by Kubrik, but he didn't get story inspiration here.
Jack Nicholson sounds like a very familiar name?? You guys are orphans from Point Nemo, aren't you...🧐
There's a reason why Stanley Kubrick is still considered a giant among filmmakers. Literally every feature is studied and admired.
Barman 33:27= Doctor Tyrell in BladeRunner (I can never get over that when it gets to the bar scene!)
And yes he literally stated that he'd 'give his soul for a glass of beer' that was the entry sign to the hotel enetity!
Fantastic reaction guys and yep sooo many epic shots, closeup rushes, wide pans and almost reluctant shifts, makes even the walls and ceilings feel creepy!
Thanks guys!
The mood of the cinematography and music combined is unique. It really draws you into the weirdness. Glad you guys appreciated that.
Please watch Twin Peaks. It's a Classic.
Absolutely, at least season 1.
This was great to watch. You guys were pretty perceptive with this film, figuring out that Jack had the Shining and that the hotel used it to tempt him and turn him, and your sympathy for Wendys plight- Most people miss a lot of the details.
Tony is the protective mechanism that Danny's psyche created to deal with the horror of his abusive father.
I rather doubt that Mike Flannagan was inspired by the remote location of The Shining. Bly Manor (The Turn of the Screw - 1898) is set at a remote estate. Hill House (The Haunting of Hill House - 1958) is set at a house several miles outside of town. Being in an isolated situation is a standard trope for horror.
I love watching this every October. Masterclass of suspense and mood.
The opening shot is Timberline Lodge at Mount Hood in Oregon.
The rest of it filmed in England.
That opening theme is a multi-century old piece of music called Dies irae. It is the death march and it's been used to convey death and foreboding in countless works.
You guys make me feel my age! LOL!
"It's time to look in the Mirror, Jack!"
no - that's when things go wrong. every ghost is a scene with a mirror. no mirrors.
You probably recognize "Lloyd" from his role as the CEO of the Tyrell Corp. in Blade Runner. Joe Turkel was a great character actor who was in a couple of Kubrick's earlier films as well. He died at 95 in 2022. BTW Grady was also Alex's parole officer or therapist or something in A Clockwork Orange.
You're thinking of Aubrey Morris, as Mr. Deltoid. Philip Stone (Grady) played Alex's father.
Grady was Alex's dad.
This movie still holds the record for the most repeated scene. 137 times her opening the main door.
Why so often?
Well, she just came to the scene from breakfast and well rested. She was in a good mood and Stanley wanted her to be frantic and out of her mind, so he made her do it over and over and over again, until she almost went mad to get the right expression from her.
Stanley was a genius!
It took 127 takes for Kubrick to be happy with the baseball bat scene on the stairs. Shelley is exhausted. In real live due to swinging that bat in 127 takes. And it took them forever to get the blood coming out of the elevator just right.
A Masterpiece of a movie!
Good call noticing the girls wore the same color as the title sequence, something new to see in each viewing. Just realized the bathroom is a similar shade too.
Except for the obvious aerial shots, those were all sets which replicated real locations more or less. In fact, in the exterior shot when Jack and Wendy were being shown around the Hotel, that was a mock-up of the actual facade. The Maze was also a set. Apparently, the Maze was big enough that the cast and crew would get lost in it. You actually don't see it in the aerial shots by the way. The "snow" was a mixture of Styrofoam and salt. I wonder how healthy it was. This was also one of the first films to use the Steadicam. In fact, the inventor, Garrett Brown, was the operator. There was a penultimate scene, right before the photo reveal, that was deleted soon after the film was released. It shows Wendy in hospital being visited by Ullman, the Hotel manager. He tells her everything at the Hotel is normal. No damage. No Jack. Possibly no Hallorann, either. The excised film was destroyed. To see a recreation of the lost scene, look on YT for "The Shining - Hospital Scene AI Reconstruction." Someone who actually saw the film with the deleted scene wrote the following as a comment in that video:
Okay -- I have a lot of helpful specifics to offer here because I'm one of the few people lucky enough to have seen that infamous cut scene because I saw 'The Shining' on its opening day. I also had a detailed phone conversation with Barry Nelson (who played the Hotel manager, Ullman) about that sequence several years later.
So -- to begin with, there were ZERO flashbacks during the scene to earlier events. And even though the first and final sequences in the hospital corridor WERE filmed, they were NOT in the film as (briefly) released to the public. What I saw was Ullman entering Wendy's hospital room, giving her the flowers, and then talking with her -- all the dialogue between them being pretty much exactly as presented in the reconstruction. With one HUGE exception. The scene was TWICE as long. This was due to much slower pacing with the almost Pinteresque pauses and hesitancy often typical of dialogue in a Kubrick film. There's also something architectural weird going on here in the AI version. In the actual scene I saw, when Ullman entered Wendy's room, she was to his LEFT, her bed against the wall to his far left. And whether he went to the side of the bed nearest the door or the windows -- i.e. to Wendy's right or her left -- when he gave her the flowers and then moved to the opposite side of the bed, I can no longer recall. And I also can't remember whether he stood the whole time or sat for part of their visit. But I do remember that when Ullman left Wendy's room THAT is where the film cut to the slow dolly into the close-up of the black & white Independance Day Ball photo with Jack and the party guests.
However, Barry Nelson told me himself -- long before the script pages for the scene appeared online -- that he did shoot the scene where he greets Danny and speaks with the nurse. And then, after his visit with Wendy, a different final scene with Danny played out. Specifically, Ullman passed by Danny who was playing with his toy cars and trucks in the hospital corridor, much as he did in the hallway of The Overlook. And then, as Ullman says a passing goodbye to Danny and presses the call-button as he reaches the hospital elevators, he turns back to Danny remembering something. Then, reaching into his pocket, he withdraws the now infamous yellow tennis ball (the same one Jack was tossing against the wall and rolled down the carpet to Danny, later) and says "Here Danny...You forgot something" or "I forgot something" or just simply "Here, Danny..." and then rolls the ball down the hospital corridor to Danny who picks it up in an exact echo of the scene outside Room 237. And as Danny looks at Mr. Ullman, his eyes wide with sudden fear, Ullman just smiles benignly and steps into the elevator which closes leaving Danny still holding the tennis ball and staring in fear.
And, like the AI reconstruction, that WOULD have been the cut to the final shot of the July 4th Ball photo.
BUT with just the conversation between Ullman and Wendy, the scene felt tacked on, with no real resolution. Whereas, IF the scene AS DESCRIBED to me by Barry Nelson were to have been left in the film intact, I think it would have been chilling indeed, leaving no doubt as to Ulman being unambiguously in league with the dark forces inhabiting both The Overlook and Mr. Ullman himself. Could Ullmann's name be suggestive, too? Ullmann as in Nullmann or No-man??
22:35 it was indeed a zoom in digital effect on a miniature of the maze.
Also… TUESDAY!!!!
Edit: Also also, Dick not surviving in the movie adds to the cold nature of the film. It’s not just the scenery that’s icy, it’s the heart (right where Hollaran got axed). King criticized Kubrick’s script for “setting out to hurt people” in his eye. I don’t think King realized how right he was. This film is harsh. The family dynamics and constantly unsettling facial expressions (with unorthodox casting) really adds to the sense that nothing is quite right.
Annnnd, the scenes that seem kind of pointless are interesting if you examine the layouts. Furniture will move around between shots and rooms will be in places that can not possibly exist. Kubrick indeed did this on purpose.
There's a reason Kubrick is considered a master filmmaker, and one of the greatest of all time. Keep watching Kubrick guys, I suggest Full Metal Jacket, A Clockwork Orange, and then Dr. Strangelove.
Not to forget 2001 A Space Odyssey
Please, i recommend you watch the sixth sense, such phenomenal acting in that film. Thank you for another great reaction.
Silver Bullet is another really good horror movie based on a Stephen King story.
This was such a surprise getting this. I thought you'd lot had watched this before. This is a film that is those re watchable to pick up on extra bits that you missed before.
Well thank goodness ol cynical Mathew liked this. I was getting worried there for a moment and was ready to spit up my water if he said he didn't like it.😅😜 Great reaction guys and yes, this is top tier film masterpiece.
I'll even go further with Cojo and say that Jack Nicholson has the facially expressiveness of both Jack Black and Jim Carrey given Nicholson's super aggressive smile and method acting ability
This movie has so many layers, people could spend a lifetime trying to figure it out.
LORRAINE MASSEY: First, instead of Room 237 as in the film, the book sets Lorraine Massey in The Overlook's Room 217, soaking in the tub. Unlike Mrs. Grady, whose caretaking husband axed her and her daughters, Mrs. Massey was the wife of a New York lawyer, and her death was solitary. Known for canoodling the hotel's young bellhops, Lorraine Massey found herself suddenly abandoned at The Overlook when her newest young lover drove off without her in her Porsche. Instead of accepting a ride home from hotel staff, Mrs. Massey tried to drink away her sorrows, and when that didn't work, she slit her wrists in the tub.
I saw this for the first time in 1981 when I was 10. My parents were cool and knew I loved scary movies. They never censored what I could see. I was shocked you guys have never seen a Jack Nicholson movie but in my mind I'm the same age as you.
The Overlook sets were all constructed INDOORS. When you look through the windows you are looking at indoor studio lights shining through. It's mind-blowing, isn't it? By the way- no CGI in 1979-80.
The maze was a set they built on a stage. But it was big enough they needed a map to it.
They were "bare cheeks".😂😂😂 I busted out laughing 😂
And Danny grows up to be Ewan McGregor, AKA Obi-Wan.
He cut the spark plugs leading into the distributor cap and pulled the cap from its gearing. It's worse that cutting a battery, as even if another battery or battery cable could be sourced, you'd need a bunch of new wires - 1 wire per cylinder - to ever get the engine to run.
... well in the book Hallorann lives, but Kubrick hated Scatman Crothers so much and did everything he could to get him to quit in favor of the actor the he originally wanted, Slim Pickens, he decided to kill the character off rather than have him be the "hero"
This movie is being referenced by many other movies. One being Jurassic Park kitchen scene where the kids were hiding in the kitchen cabinet from the raptors as Danny was hiding from Jack in The Shining.
Never watched a movie reaction before but I was up till 3 am reading this book and you popped up in the algorithm (creepy much) so I had to check it out. Fun guys!
Lol, that is uncanny
If Dick Halloran hadn't arrived when he did, Jack would have murdered Wendy. Dick prevented that and also provided the snow cat for them to escape. Having said that, the book is quite different to the movie. You should definitely check out the sequel, Doctor Sleep. It manages to stay true to the established world of both King's first book and Kubrick's movie version (which King famously hated).
Now you just have to hop on over to the Stanley Hotel (which is the main inspiration for the Overlook) for a nice, relaxing stay. Remember, all work and no play…
Bellas cameos always make me happy ❤️
I just love Stephen Kings' works, even if this isn't quite faithful to the books. I keep them separate.
The lady in the tub is not Grady's wife, but just another of the tragic figures from the Overlook's past. Fun fact... the actor playing Ullman was the first actor to ever portray James Bond, in a British TV production of Casino Royale
REDRUM REDRUM was a Famous Horse also
"he definitely has the Shining" when you see him gazing off with that crazed look while Wendy and Danny are running in the snow you hear a similar high pitched noise that you also heard when Danny was talking to Halloran. and when he goes into the bar for the first time the music plays with a similar high pitched noise. Also when Danny sees the girls he covers his eyes and they go away. When Jack is in the bar he has his eyes covered and then pulls his hands away and all of sudden he can see the bartender and the bar is fully stocked. He definitely has the Shining.
He can see entire ballrooms filled with ghosts. and can have full on conversations with them. Definitely has the Shining. However, he doesnt' realize he has it. In the book, which is different than the movie, Halloran tries to guess whether Jack has the Shining and says he has something but he's too closed to say for sure what it is. But it's clear he also has the shining. And Halloran mentions that his grandmother also has the shinning so it may be hereditary.
Danny probably got the shining because Jack already had it.
I didn’t see anyone talking about it, but the lodge that they show from the outside is Timberline Lodge which is in Oregon. It’s about an hour and a half from where I live but it’s literally so stunning up there. Just recently drove up there and absolutely love that it makes me think of this movie since I’m a big horror and Stephen king fan!
I love The Shining ❤️ It's a great movie 🎬 And I love this reaction ❤️ I hope you guys are well and having a great day 😊
In the book Dick lived.
Surprised you guys never heard of Jack THE Nicholson haha! His son Ray Nicholson is in the new Smile 2 movie and it's amazing the resemblance! Glad you watched this classic.
Awesome Movie and Work Broos, Thanks!!😎👍👍 Christmas Greetings🎄🎁🎁 from Helsinki, Finland🇫🇮🇺🇸🇫🇮🇺🇸
2:35 DOGGIEEEE ❤
Casually thrown to the side 😂
lol great funny reaction guys!
Can’t wait for Doctor Sleep! 🍿
All 4 of them "ohhhh!" in the bathroom/mirror scene lol
A decent and intelligent reaction to a complex classic film. A film I'd classify as psychological horror. I'm glad you saw a connection to Flanagan's _Hill House._ It's actually a somewhat complicated relationship.
Although I don't often subscribe to his themes, I do recognize Kubrick as a great filmmaker, and "The Shining" (TS) is certainly a masterpiece of cinema. I like it very much even though I'm not a fan of Stephen King or his books. This must be due solely to Kubrick. Well, let's also give credit to the actors and the production crew, too. As great as Nicholson and Duvall were in the film, that little boy, Danny Lloyd, really made the movie for me. I think he was five when he started filming TS. For a child that age, he was just outstanding. He himself came up with the finger puppet for Tony, his alter ego. Kudos, also, to Philip Stone and Joe Turkel for being quietly sinister and menacing. I don't want to forget good-guy Scatman Crothers, either. Well-done Scatman. Then there's the Overlook. Not only is it alive, but it is the personification of evil.
TS has all the Kubrick touches. All those long hallway and hedge maze shots are one-point-perspective. That's a Kubrick trademark. Also, don't some of those nighttime hedge maze shots remind you of HAL's "eye" in 2001 a bit? They do me. Another characteristic of Kubrick is his focus on intense person-to-person interactions. Yeah, TS has just a little bit of that. By the way, isn't it weird HAL in 2001 acts like a person, and the people act like computers/robots? Those long tracking-shots as people move about the hotel are another Kubrick trait. The musical score as an integral part of the narrative of TS is also textbook Kubrick. Kubrick was a perfectionist, and that is reflected in his films. For example, background is as significant as foreground. Why does Jack's typewriter change color? Is it because Jack has been transformed? Oh, "All work and no play" goes back to at least 1659. It didn't originate with TS although it certainly fits. Why do bits of the hotel, like the furniture, for example, appear, disappear or move about? Is it because the hotel is alive? The answer is yes by the way. It's definitely not due to continuity problems. Finally, Kubrick always forces the viewer to think about and dissect his films. That certainly happens in TS. As a result, we and Kubrick share in a common creative impulse when watching TS. The film becomes a living thing.
Here are a _few_ things I've noticed about TS. The film is replete with mirrors. They're everywhere. Watch how they affect Jack. Are they how the hotel projects its power? A portal of sorts? Do they also absorb power? Are they its eyes as well? Likewise, there are mazes everywhere. There's the obvious hedge maze, but the hotel itself is a maze, and so is the hallway carpet. Early on, Wendy remarks on the need for breadcrumbs, a reference to Hansel and Gretel and the maze-like quality of the hotel. TS is a variation of Theseus and the Minotaur with Danny as Theseus, Tony as Ariadne etc. Wendy also says the hotel is like a ghostship.
Like in Hill House, the Hotel feeds off Danny and Jack's shining power and gets more powerful as time passes. The hotel wants Danny dead so it can absorb him and his power. Did you notice all the knives pointed at Danny's head on several occasions in the film? When Hallorann and Danny are talking in the kitchen bits of the conversation were telepathic. Numbers seem to come up a lot in the film. For example, Danny wears a shirt with 42 on the sleeve, the tv with no power cord is showing "Summer of 42," and room 237 is 2x3x7=42. Kubrick's wife said "The Summer of 42" was one of his favourite movies along with "The Bank Dick." The latter is a great movie with W. C. Fields.
I love it when Danny asks Jack if he feels bad. That can be taken two ways as in do you feel evil or do you feel unwell. And, of course, Jack repeats the girls saying forever and ever, meaning I want to join with the hotel in death. Jack does, of course, sell his soul for a drink. Is that why Lloyd the bartender won't take his money? Jack's already paid in-full? The people and things Danny and Jack see are real, but only people with shining can see them at first. When Jack returns to the ballroom where the 1920s party is going on, a woman walks by him with a bloody handprint on her backside. This is about the time the advocaat is spilled on him. Jack also wipes some advocaat on Grady's back.
In the bathroom scene, it's clear Grady's girls also had "the shine" and wanted to destroy the hotel, but they were killed instead and absorbed. Grady himself, probably like Jack, also had "the shine." In the conversation between Jack and Grady, Grady switches between Grady and the entity of the hotel. Jack may also switch with the "caretaker." When Jack and Wendy are being shown their apartment, Jack eyes the two departing young ladies. A sign of his lechery? Ditto the girlie magazine he's reading in the lobby early on. He definitely has a wandering eye. Even early on, he doesn't seem to hold Wendy in high regard.
When Jack enters room 237, the carpet there is obviously suggestive of the sex act. Very phallic etc. Sex, in one way or other, features in many Kubrick films. Room 237 is the heart of the hotel. The nude woman represents the hotel seducing Jack. The heartbeat we hear is the hotel's and signals the hotel's malevolent activity and increasing power. We hear it overtly later in the film but weakly earlier when Danny is riding the trike on/off the carpet and when Jack is bouncing the ball. The high-pitched tone indicates "shining" is happening. So, Jack clearly shines, too. He's one of those who doesn't realize he has it.
Jack several times in the film exhibits the Kubrick glare or stare, a shot of a man glowering up at the camera from beneath lowered brows, an indicator of danger or madness. You see it in "Full Metal Jacket." And I think HAL in 2001 also shows it. Doesn't HAL's red pupil change size?
When Jack goes on his rant about his obligations to the hotel before Wendy conks him, he's not talking about Ullmann and co. He's talking about "the hotel," the thing that's alive. That's who he's made the contract and sold his soul to. Remember Lloyd the bartender's ominous hotel remarks. REDRUM is MURDER backwards, and it signifies anti-murder. It's a totem that protects against murder. That's why Danny writes it on the bathroom door. Jack can batter the door, but he won't get in. Danny is also warning Wendy and arming her as a result of his REDRUM recital.
The photos are part of the hotel like the typewriter and furniture. When Jack dies, he's absorbed by the hotel and winds up in the 1920s photo. Towards the end, the hotel's evil spirit, the caretaker, may have abandoned Jack to die in the maze. He did fail in his task. That ball in the photo was the same one where the advocaat was spilled. So, he was there in 1921, and he wasn't. Kubrick deleted a final scene from TS. Wendy was in hospital and Ullman was visiting. He told her all was normal at the hotel. No Jack. No Hallorann.
I've watched several reactions to TS, and I'm amazed at some of the observations. Got some beefs. A lot of people don't make a connection between Danny's first vision of the blood elevator, which signifies all the death at the hotel, and his passing out. They disassociate these two events when clearly they go together as the image of Danny's horrified face shows. From the get-go, it's clear Danny can see past events and future events. He knows Jack got the job and is going to call Wendy. He knows he doesn't want them to go to the hotel. He knows the hotel signifies danger.
Why don't people notice that Danny's shirt and jumper are torn when he come to the Colorado Lounge after being strangled? Danny's clearly in shock, too. When Danny is foaming at the mouth and Hallorann is having his mini-fit, Danny is clearly communicating with Hallorann there is danger, come and help.
How can Wendy be so sound asleep before Danny wakes her? Come on, the poor woman has been on edge for weeks. She hasn't been sleeping well. Now that she's locked crazy Jack up, she literally passes out, thinking they're safe.
After Danny slides down from the bathroom window, why are people surprised he comes back into the hotel? It's freakin' cold outside. Do you live at the equator or something?
After Jack kills Hallorann and Danny screams, why are people surprised when Danny bolts his hiding place? It's not a hiding place anymore, Jack knows where he is. Anyway, the hotel will lead him to Danny. Danny runs outside because he's actually luring Jack into the maze to meet his fate.
Danny is the hero of TS, he's Theseus, who killed the monster in the maze.
And yet, for all of Kubrick’s “genius,” dude was too fucking lazy to actually use the music Wendy Carlos and Rachel Elkind written for The Shining instead of simply rehashing and reusing older classical music. With that being said, he’s indirectly responsible for why I started to listen to more of Krzysztof Penderecki’s musical works.
@@rodgill9376 Well, he obviously thought what he picked worked better. Given people often comment on how effective the score is, it seems he made the correct choice. That doesn't mean that what Carlos and Elkind wrote wasn't quality, it just didn't achieve the mood/atmosphere Kubrick was looking for.
The insane thing is that while it’s based on a real hotel in the U.S., the interiors of this is actually all a SET! Kubrick had his set designers meticulously copy the layout and design of the real hotel. If you watch the documentary that’s on TH-cam by Kubrick’s daughter you’ll see it. Amazing.
I'm so excited about this, can't believe you guys have never seen this. Your about to be terrified, RIP to the legend shelly duval (excuse spelling), this film with stay with you forever
"Jack Nicholson - sounds familiar" Oh you kids 🤣
Just one of the biggest movie stars ever. Got 3 best actor oscars in three decades (70s, 80s and 90s)