Recap Your Speakers, Crossover Recapping Wharfedale Diamond 3. Mondorf Ecap Capacitor Bipolar Alcap

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  • After recapping the top end was more present with nice fine detail with a longer decay.
    A little brigher without becoming to bright.
    Mids were a little more present, soundstage was a little wider beyond speakers with some more depth.
    Maybe a tad more detail in the lower frequencies.
    I did not include a sound test as my room at the moment has to many reflections, but I will in a future video have a before and after test.
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  • @kevinsheppard6085
    @kevinsheppard6085 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really enjoyed this one, and it's given me a bit of a inspiration to look out for something old, cheap but good to have a go at. My biggest issue is I have quite a few pairs of bookshelf speakers. However I acquired a pair of Dali Oberon 1's pretty cheaply and literally fell in love with them on first listen, and now every thing else I try I go straight back to the Dali's after a brief swap.

    • @MichaelYates
      @MichaelYates  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Kevin, once you get a good pair they can become very hard to beat as so many just average pairs about. Though still fun trying them all out.

  • @dittonworks
    @dittonworks ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice one mate.

    • @MichaelYates
      @MichaelYates  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Kevin, All the best mate

  • @GlutenFreeRange
    @GlutenFreeRange ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Michael I to have recapped my diamond 2's and I can hear the difference was pretty amazed TBH . I recommend doing it 😀

    • @MichaelYates
      @MichaelYates  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am pleased that the recap went well. Thanks for letting us know

  • @adrianred236
    @adrianred236 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In this use case, which way around you put the caps won't matter.

  • @hugobloemers4425
    @hugobloemers4425 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That was a good trade off for the amount of money spend on these speakers. I would have soldered the drivers. I do not like these fast-on connectors.

    • @MichaelYates
      @MichaelYates  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was going to soldier the wires here, but I wanted to return for a sound test with old crossover as well and might try and get hold of a 2.2uf Mondorf to finish this pair off. Then soldier.

  • @soundsofthe70s73
    @soundsofthe70s73 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Got Diamond 1's and you have me pondering a recap. So ive pulled the trigger and ordered all the caps and resistors as you did. Waiting for the postie now

    • @MichaelYates
      @MichaelYates  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Please come back at let us know how it all went

    • @soundsofthe70s73
      @soundsofthe70s73 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MichaelYates I will do so

    • @stevecoleman3724
      @stevecoleman3724 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also have a working pair of Diamond 1's that have never been opened and stored for 30+ years. I am going to recap them and would be very interested how your experience went and what capacitors you used.

    • @soundsofthe70s73
      @soundsofthe70s73 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did the speakers late last night and been listening to them today. They sound much better with more detail especially in the top end. Thanks Michael for this video as I would have not even bothered to do them and very pleased I did. I have a load of vinyl to replay now on my new speakers.

    • @soundsofthe70s73
      @soundsofthe70s73 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevecoleman3724 I got them done last night and well worth the effort. I ordered Mundorf Caps and very pleased with the results. More detail and its very easy to hear the before and after. Top end is very nice indeed.

  • @CM-dw3gh
    @CM-dw3gh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Capping speakers is so rewarding and a breeze compared to Amps I found. The last i did was for some NAD 8025's. Sad theres no reason to do my new speakers, maybe in a few years time. The added problem is they dont use screws now so god knows how you get the drivers out without longterm damage. Its for this reason ill stick to older speakers if buying any in the future.
    Great vids mate

    • @MichaelYates
      @MichaelYates  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the comment, I know what you mean by a lot new speakers not having any screws, will be a pain in years to come to recap them. Nice to have a nice smooth looking finish, but nothing wrong with screws.

  • @D1N02
    @D1N02 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rauh is pronounced like row (As in fight. Not in a boat or theatre) without pronouncing the w at the end. Maybe I'll pick up some diamond 3's at some point. I've been watching the Haycross audio channel. Interesting stuff.

    • @MichaelYates
      @MichaelYates  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Yes Haycross Channel is doing some excellent work re-building cabinets and crossovers for various speakers. He knows far far more than me about how speakers tick. Just a basic recap here but came off pretty well. Be interesting to hear what you think of the old diamond 3's if you do come across a pair.

    • @D1N02
      @D1N02 ปีที่แล้ว

      I finally got some. Didn't like what I heard and figured the caps were out of spec. Started by measuring the tweeters. They measure 5.1 Ohm (so I am guessing they are 6 ohm and the 2 ohm resistor is there to make them 8), but hey what is that red lacquer on the binding post? That can't be good, lets get that of with some steel wool, which instantly clung to the magnet (duh) let's wipe that off. Ok now I snapped the lead wire to the voice coil. Tried to fix it but burned it with my soldering iron... So now looking for a new tweeter.
      I found out the big 450Mfd Cap is in the woofer section. Just there to protect it from rumble and bass spikes from careless users. The woofer isn't actually crossed over other than by the speaker itself, so I am going to remove the 450Mfd altogether. I'll look for some film caps for the tweeter. The tweeters are ferrofluid by the way (took of the magnet which is glued) so a potential problem in the future when they dry out. I don't think the voice coils can be replaced. It's all glued to the plastic front.

  • @matthewtaylor7355
    @matthewtaylor7355 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Recapped my tannoy turnburys.. Bass even more propulsive and deeper tighter.. Etc with mundorf evo oil.. Jantzen on the tweeter... More detail faster.. Now sound euphonic rich with my musical paradise 301.. 289 GBP from China.. Sounds like the review in those mags... Ur Cockney Accent makes a change from the usual middle class ******

    • @MichaelYates
      @MichaelYates  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment and letting us know how much of a difference a re-cap did, Those Tannoy Turnburys look amazing and bet they sound fanatastic.

  • @celloting01
    @celloting01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    (Sorry, Michael, have to revise my original comment). Re the bass, the original Elcap caps (still available) were electrolytic and they would produce punchier bass than the Mundorf Ecap caps being polypropylene are known not to sound as punchy and can sound 'plasticky'. Yes, they do sound brighter, but not as smooth as paper in oil. If you can find PIO caps for the tweeter, that would be preferable. I'd replace the 450uF with new Elcap (at slightly higher value, 470uF), and you'll find the bass will sound more solid with more oomph than polyprop film caps. Also worth noting that the ferrofluid (Aliexpress) in the tweeters may have dried up somewhat and can benefit from refilling. PS: Also worth noting that the original rubber surrounds would have hardened somewhat and don't sound as good as new, obviously and I've replaced mine with foam surrounds, being more pliable, can reveal more details and sound more musical. Only pain is having to replace them every 10-15 years.

    • @MichaelYates
      @MichaelYates  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the extra information. I will look in to the paper oil 450uf cap, as I will be returning to do a little more work on these and a pair of diamond 2's soon

    • @TheMildperil
      @TheMildperil ปีที่แล้ว

      Mundorf E caps are also Electrolytic.

    • @matthewtaylor7355
      @matthewtaylor7355 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Poly caps can sound very different.. So electrolytics

  • @bobsbits5357
    @bobsbits5357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    the only thing the new windows 10 don't like the old gear and my macker lady is asking why
    i have 2 sony tc755 please don't buy this make the parts are going bad in the transport logic not just th caps
    it the trans as well they are all going bad i have a 3rd one that is ok one year ago all 3 were 100%
    so if you see any gear on ebay it's a lotto big time in the bigger decks there's alot to do when getting gear in mic you been lucky so far
    the my mate vince he had alot of bad luck
    so if you have things that turn out bad please make video's about it it will have ones
    just get in the game i am picking up gear right now for video's
    a digit now unit has come saves the need of the computer just time i am waiting for
    i can film and edit at same time pic's is great plan keep doing it bob

    • @MichaelYates
      @MichaelYates  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment and information Bob it all helps other people. Yes I find a still picture is better than a shaky video to see what is happening. When you get your channel up and running please leave a link to it.

    • @bobsbits5357
      @bobsbits5357 ปีที่แล้ว

      hi it will be up there's alot of things
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      some one off things i have the uc start up
      team behide me and there's targets i have to
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      the sony tc755 decks real life what they are
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      the same with teac 44 80-8
      waiting for me is better in the long run
      otari dp2700
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