Planet Coaster - Jägerhorn Mountain Train (Part 1) - Coaster Building & Terraforming
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- All aboard the Jägerhorn Mountain Train! In this series I will be working on a heavily themed, realistic mine train coaster similar to Big Thunder Mountain Railroad and Expedition Everest - but with a European Alpine theme. Featuring rugged rocky cliffs, intricate manicured foliage and nostalgic Swiss Chalet style architecture, it'll make you feel like you're flying through the high European Alps. Hopefully. Don't tell anyone, but miniature railroads have also been an unusual inspiration for this ride. And if anything, it's a comeback for the old 'mine train' coaster in Grizzly Valley; after more than a year of waiting, a realistic sequel is finally here!
In this first part I will be working on major parts of the layout, as well as shaping the mountain it curves around using the terraforming and terrain painting tool. Also, quite a bit of scenery detailing is done to get an idea of what the coaster will eventually look like - most of all, lots of rockwork, themed catwalks around the entire ride, and upside down bushes and sunken trees to create the sub-alpine highland look.
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"Just a little mine train"...
[2 years later]
Arguably the most detailed, best looking Planet coaster Ride in existance, finished.
Thank you! :D
2 years later? I'm starting this series for the first time; I suppose I'm in for a real treat.
Yes, as a German, I obviously like this. #Instalike ;-)
Rudi Rennkamel ich auch
Rudi Rennkamel yes, as a Swiss I like it even more already, looks awesome!
man kann gar nicht anders :D
David Spring schwiiz jaa
As a fellow german, not only your name is awesome - but also your newest creation - the watch go karts ;D @Silvarette - Your builds man, are something to behold. Srysly
Another note: A mine train coaster is probably my favorite coaster to just watch and look at. Fascinating, and beautiful.
Same here! :)
DjTechnoid Same dude.
Me and my dad love looking at them to see if we came try match them to real trains love the art work the makers must do
Silv,
If you want your catwalks to look a little more prototypical to Vekoma, lift them up 0.3-0.5 meters. they should be level with the step to enter the car, just like the station platform, so guests don't get caught between the rail and the car.
Very nice speed throughout the whole track. This ride has very nice banking as well, so although it isnt super tall there are very fun moments that happen that experienced roller coaster fans would enjoy. I am also a fan of the Catwalks and the variation you included with those catwalks. I am sure you will nail the buildings as always.
Is it just me or does someone else want custom trains or the possibility to change the train of a track type?!
Definitely! There are quite a few car types I'd like to have on different tracks in the game.
Suspended wooden coaster let's goooooooo
Well not quite that, but the boomerang's cars on regular corkscrew coaster tracks for Vekoma Loopers, the megacoaster cars on the eurofighter tracks for Intamin Blitz coasters and the Giovanola Inverted cars on the corkscrew coaster tracks for Vekoma SLC's to name some examples.
hahahahaha
I just want to change the color
Little question/request: is there a chance you give us a sort of 'behind the scenes' in which you show us sketches you made for your coasters/parks? I think that would be incredibly interesting! :)
Keep up the awesome work, Silv, your creations always give me the perfect escapism feeling, the feeling of being away in a wonderful other world that I'm looking for in this game!
That second drop looks intense haha, love it!
I love the custom catwalk work, it looks great and I vote for the bare carts without the train.
Don't quote me on the 100m evacuation distance haha, it just seems like that on Big Thunder Mountain in Paris. Probably because of European regulations but I never really studied mine trains. :D
Looking forward to the next episode!
Thanks! I wasn't going to leave this Vekoma family coaster without hitting some sustained negative G's! >:D I'm really torn over the carts though, they look great bare, but the locomotive fits the theme more. Oh well, we'll see what happens in the end.
Fair enough, I shouldn't hold you accountable for any unsourced quotes. But it really seems like a ton of evacuation stairs, haha.
Miniature railroads!
The correct German Word is "Jägerhorn"
Greetings from Germany
Thanks, I made a typo in the title, thumbnail is correct :)
Luenebest HD Man trifft echt viele Deutsche im englischen TH-cam :)
Luenebest HD oder um es anders zu sagen, im internationalen TH-cam :)
Now just caps those letters in the title and you got the real german spirit! :D
GREETINGS from GERMANY!
Can you tell me how do you build through Terrain without Tunnels and afterwards gently erase terrain until the rails come visible? I don't get it.
I tried but only get ugly gaps underneath the rails😢
Silvarret's voice is pretty hot anyway... But I always love hearing him say "Hey guys, and welcome to a NEW SERIES of Planet Coaster". It's because I know Silvarret's one of the best at going above and beyond with decorating the parks, even down to tiny details you may not notice. I just like how he pushes the boundaries of what he can make, whilst making sure it is realistic too.
I could be wrong, But by deleting the main car like that it prevents the testing from being completed - thus you can't open it to the public. At least I've run into something simular
Pretty sure you can remove a piece, put it back in place for proper testing, open the ride after testing, an CTR+Z-CTR+Y the front car off while it's open, too. Should test it, in any case.
No, it sadly doesn't work
HAH! Where's your God now, Uthris? gyazo.com/43597156ca37cf2b2ef1835ce1bc26ac
Obviously I'm speaking with him...Silvarret
what how did you do that ?
Being the crazy person I am, It'd be cool if the end was a free fall drop off the Jägerhorn Mountain, and the track below is hidden in the terrain as if you would not make it to the station.
Or an average drop but since the track is in the terrain, it looks like you're gonna slide off the rails.
My gosh this is incredible. How can you still impress me even with your already incredible background..? :D
Quick notes: The first Big Thunder Mountain was made by WED and Arrow. All the other ones were Vekoma.
The catwalk thing is something from Disney, not Vekoma (their other mine trains don't have them). I guess it's both for inspections and evacuations. (Regular cast members have to walk around the track every morning before opening their attraction, after the maintenance guys already checked it)
You are really getting better and better at theme park and ride design. In fact, you are among the very few Planet Coaster builders to really dig into that. Heck, I'm sure your skills would interest real life companies.
Oh I forgot, I guess with the terain textures you can slighlty apply a change of brightness between the bottom and top of the mountain? That would be great for the forced perspective! (lighter at the top, more colorful at the bottom)
Silvarret don't tell me that building in videogames can't be art because this obviously is! Nice work done! Can't wait for the next episode.
With regards to the first catwalk you built, surely if it was an evacuation point it would need to be at parts where the coaster could stop, the first catwalk wouldn't work as the coaster would just roll back into the dip of the hill ?
Very true, but once the coaster dips in a valley, the hills need some catwalks as well so people are able to walk over the hill's catwalks to the nearest exit to a path - not sure why all these safety precautions in real life though, but for example Big Grizzly Mountain also has walkable space along the entire length of the track.
It looks so pretty and I very much prefer it to the other style of mine train coaster because it looks more like the railroad was threaded through the existing mountain. Can't wait for the next episode!
Little question, How can you place the track through the ground? It wont let me do that unless i enable auto-tunnel, which basically screws up everything :P
i know this is a late reply, but in the game's options, you can disable collision
Yeeeees!!!!! :D
@@alechuntsman9524THANK YOU
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Also, I'd recommend using Swiss Cog railways as reference, they are the only type of railways you'll find that actually do near 45 degree hills, and are quite popular in Switzerland
Can you still turn collision detection back on? For auto-creating tunnels I wonder?
Edit: Btw this really looks like a model train which is pretty amazing!!
As soon as you activate Auto-Tunnel, it still will dig into the ground and you will get your tunnels
Alright thanks :)
Still have to wait until I get my new PC for this game but I'm following everything closely :D
Michi H. And yes it is still on by default I think
Otherwise is it a option in the "game" tab where u can enable/disable these features
OMG the fountains haha... RIP framerate
Anyways, Im super hyped about this project! Something about the mine train style rides is so unique.. They are so integrated into their surroundings. Cant wait to see more progress..
I really wish I had this game - you make it look so easy
Johnnyboy2300 yeah it looks easy because he knows what he’s doing,when I play it takes like 2 hours to make i roller coaster 😂
Zou je alsjeblieft een dark ride willen maken of een achtbaan die binnen is. Soort van mix van de Vogelrok en de Fata Morgana
very nice
im austrian/german and in austria in the alps it looks exactly like that what you made there. even its not finished yet it looks really impressive and i prefer scenery coasters. not this insane coasters. perfect would be a coaster with insane sections but also with scenery. ereryone who is german and live in the alps reply this commetn im interestet how many are living in the alps and watching this video
I wonder what it would look like if you tackled America West or Sci-Fi Scenery...
Silvarret...the Bob Ross of Planet Coaster! Feck yea!
Just turned off the game about an hour ago, suddenly re-inspired to play. Woo
I don't understand how you get your track to tunnel into terrain without auto tunnel turned on 🤷🏻♂️
I just started on a alpine mine train coaster myself last night for my park after running a poll, that's what people wanted. Interesting to see your video today lol. Hope you don't mind I'll most likely steal a few ideas here :) We are even using the same coasters as inspiration with 7 Dwarves and Grizzly, and even a bit of Expedition Everest.
I'm afraid that's because of my actually, I voted for Mine Train there :p But I guess we're on the same line about these then, so of course I don't mind!
Awww.. makes sense then. I'm having a tough time with the layout on mine. In order to get a few elements that must haves for me it's turning into a longer and larger coaster than I set out to do. I've got to condense it a bit. There's a few ideas on yours layout wise I may try to implement. Looking forward to the next episode. I had seen your teases on twitter and was wondering when there would be a video.
The track layout is great so far, I love the double-down section, it feels very natural, smooth but also exciting. You could smooth the right-curve just before the double-up, it could be a bit strong for a mild coaster. (Btw. the double up wouldn't be a huge problem, you could just smooth it...)
What I don't like at all is the track just before the lift hill starts. It looks very unnatural and wouldn't be very comfortable, I think. If the section before the lift hill has to be straight (as it is now), maybe make the curve leading towards it a bit bigger.
Other than that, I agree with many of the comments: Great coaster so far - and thank you for including a POV, which makes for a great ending to actually ride through everything you did in a video. (You should include those more often.)
Hey Silv. I actually worked on BTMRR at Disneyland for several years. Its not necessarily that they have evac routes every 100ms. The attraction just utilizes its blocks so that you essentially have a SAFETY brake before each lift hill (3 lift hills) and a park brake (before the first lift hill). Keep in mind the 3rd safety brake or zone, is right before the final brake block prior to entering the station.
So as far as evac routes go, we could technically evac through the entire attraction at any point. However the safest places to obviously stop the train are in areas of control (Lift Hills, Brake Zones, and of course, the Station itself). It just so happens the attraction is designed to lose enough momentum at each point that it does roughly come out to ~100m. This is not intentionally designed for this reason, its designed for capacity. (BTM pre refurb could accomplish roughly 2300-2400 riders per hour on a 5 train operation).
I hope this helps. If you want any other insight be sure to ask!
After seeing this, dont you thin it would be an awesome feature to highlight coasters/szenery through the floor, like we could do in RCT 1, 2, 3? It maybe would make this working underground+postterraforming way easier. :D
Oh yeah, that's a good idea!
I also used lots of reference images from model railroads when I attempted to make a mine train coaster. I don't think its odd at all since people usually make a logging railroad because it has a lot of nature scenery. You can get a lot of inspiration from them.
Somehow this reminds me of the Gotthard train track which also has a church as a weenie with the track layout looping back and fourth to gain height in restricted space. www.swisstravelsystem.com/en/wassen-church.html / upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Pfaffensprung-Kehrtunnel_und_Linienentwicklung_bei_Wassen.png
This terrain hugging has been long awaited, and thank you for doing it justice with this series! Bravo!
The catwalk work here is impressive Silv.
And now I feel like an idiot when i asked the photoshop question on twitter hahahaha. Im amazingly impressed that trick works and now I want to use it on my Donkey Kong mine train were the locomotive wouldnt work theming wise.
I am trying to terraform like you but I can not. When I try to pull terrain up to the tracks i get a large ditch under it. I can not get it to pull flush like you do. When I try to put tracks through the ground like I see you doing at 4:59 I get an "Object intersection" error. The only way I can do it is to turn auto tunnel which also creates a large ditch under the track. Am I missing something?
I'm a month late but you're supposed to go into the game options and turn terrain collision off.
I did some digging and eventually figured it out lol. Thanks!
Great!!! I love BTMR at WDW, EE at WDW! This layout is amazeballs! (quote Keralis) I have a horrible computer, but I'm saving to buy one! You got me into Planet Coaster!
Great name!!!
Love from Maryland (America)
P.S. Love your vids, can't wait for pt.2!!!!
I have a game:
Take a shot every time he says a rollercoaster name (Not including Jägerhorn)
How are you creating seperate track pieces and not having to do it continually? I see you do that here, and I'm stuck on the second map in the game where it requires two go cart tracks, but there is no go cart in the ride options even after researching new rides to the end. yuck
Jägerbomb coaster might be a bit better.
The first two Big Thunders (in Disneyland and Walt Disney World) were built by Arrow Dynamics. They started working with Vekoma on the Paris version.
You think Frontier would ever add customization coaster cars? Like cars that you could attach items onto similar to the rest of the game? I think it might make the game slightly better theme wise since many coasters that do things like "Its a Pokemon ride" or "Its a recreation of this Disney World ride" are forced to use the very theme specific cars.
This is amazing! Keep it up Silvarret
It would look cool if you made pieces of the rock into a kind of more brown/sand/red texture but just a tiny bit to break up the grey. Either that or make it come parts a little darker :)
The evacuation stairs next to the helix would not be used to evacuate in that exact spot. They would lead to a brake run on a real coaster where the evacuation would take place. Something would have to go horrible wrong for the train to stop on a banked curve like that requiring passengers to evacuate like that
Outstanding job dude! I live in California and am about an hour from Yosemite. Big Thunder Mountain's terrain seems to be a mix of the Sierra Nevada's, Coastal Mountain Range, and the higher elevations surrounding the Grand Canyon. Basically it's a collection of stereo-types from all of the Western U.S. minus the beach and hippies. lol. The mountain itself is not Sierra Nevada'ish, it's seems closer to the rock formations near the Grand Canyon and in New Mexico.
Hey Silv! Would it be possible next episode or sometime to show us your sketches for planning? It'd be great to see!
It would be cool if in some parts you only make the rail visible so it looks overgrown and old. It would still make sense because the car is riding on the rail, but the wood is not visible.
American/Australian = reddish rocks, lots of verticals
European = greyish rocks, sharp peaks and ridges
Asian/coral reef = whiteish rocks, also very smooth/rounded
African = yellowish rocks, domed or flat tops
South American/pacific islands = Blackish rocks, smooth and steep
Glacial = light grey to silverish rocks, sheer surfaces
Interesting that you talk about the Miniature-Train-Method, bc that's exactly what brought me to RCT3 and now PC. It brings together both of my favorite Things, Modelling and Rollercoasters, and makes them virtual :D
A lovely look, Sil, as always. You know, I wonder about the catwalk/escape issues Disney faces---they do operate in various nations AND of course in two different U.S. states, each with their own "fine print" in safety laws. I have a feeling they've established a company-wide best/worst-case scenario where they can, at least as far as those safety issues, make it "one size fits all." As an L.A. native who's grown up with Disneyland since the start, I have had the experience of a ride shutdown and having to be evac'd on various attractions, and I also think that a lot of the extensive catwalking, even on non-speedy dark rides, was, in the case of older rides, also a product of security concerns. When you leave the rides this way you often see little areas that would have been posted with an observer/cast member to make sure nobody tried to get out of the cars or did something else that now, I'm sure, is covered by security cameras, beam-break gizmos, etc. etc.
one question: how to build the tracks under earth without making any holes ? thx for answer
Edit: i cant do this with the new update dafuq ?
Hey Silvarret, I'm not sure if you're Dutch so I'll do my best to talk English.
I just bought Planet Coaster because of your creatiions. Building a coaster looks so easy and it is!
But I came across a problem which is laying rails or another type of tracks on a raised or lowered terrain.
In this video I see you putting rails thorugh a mountain without the game refusing. When I do this it stopt me from building any further. What I then do is I make the track first and then 'grow' the mountain around it. But the terrain will always be a bit lower than the track is. I don't see this problem at your coaster in this video. You build your track on the surface where you want to. How do you do this? I hope I was clear enough. Thank you.
Good Ol' Silv, everyones building go kart tracks and here's you building a mine train coaster. I wouldnt mind not having biome painting in every map if it's due to the way the terrain maps layers, as long as they add a separate category for landscape painting that has all the textures plus a brush palette so we can 'fill concrete' squares or make artificial biomes.
Hi, I love the detail you put into your rollercoaster scnerey and how ellegent and realistic it looks :-). Ive been doing some scnenery for this Ferris wheel which has turned out quite well. It has a bit of terraforming, some nice lights, a little water pool area and is surrounded by rock formations, flowers, and different types of trees including palm trees as well as a little rock formation over parts of the path. Ive tried creating a waterfall but it doesen't look good and was wondering if you could give some advice?
Nothing will ever beat Big Thunder Mountain, I thought 7 Dwarfs Mine Train was such a disappointment when I rode it. However Expedition Everest is also one of my favourites
Wow! Awesome layout! I am really starting to enjoy a more compact layout for these kind of coasters. It makes the ride almost look larger even though it may not exactly be that tall. It also allows for some amazing sight lines as you said. On top of some beautiful scenery! Cannot wait for the next one!
I am playing planet coaster for a couple days now on PS4.
And I am trying to build this insane coaster and park you made. Thank you for this inspiration. Love this park and coaster !!!
How did you the track to go through the floor and and get the game to allow it
well this is awkward. I'm making a terrain hugging mine train too atm, but I haven't uploaded anything of it yet so now everyone's gonna feel like I copied yours : ' ) yours is way better though. waaaay better.
I've been waiting for a series like this from you for a loooooonnnnggg time, I'm a huge big thunder nerd, and a train nerd, and this is right up that alley.
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I wish you can make Final Fantasy world!!! maybe Like "Cornelia"from FF1"Besaide Island"FF10
please!!! I am from Japan!
Silv you need to check out the Minetrain called Alpenexpress Enzian in the Europa Park in Germany. Its kinda the same theme you are building and its a really fun coaster!
wow! looks absolutly amazing! i have like 500 hours in PC and think that what i build already looks amazing. But looking at you do it just brings that to another level, great built!
You should check (if you haven't yet) the colorado mine train from phantasialand ! the theming is kinda basic (and ugly we can say) but the layout is kinda crazy
when are you doing part 2?
I just got this on my xbox, How do you make this coaster go faster? It’s frustrating how slow it goes and at 0:53 how did you make the track Touch the ground like that? Did that update go to Console yet?
How does it work, that you can put the rails into the ground? Because in the normal Planet Coaster it doesn`t work. Is that an Add-On or ...? Please answer 😉
Removing collisions should really open this game up immensely more so than the content prior already had, primarily for dark rides since it's going to be so much easier to work terrain and rooms around sections of tracks. I'd love to see you try your hand at a dark ride some time soon, but I'm aware you don't necessarily have that kind of time on your hands and it would be one hell of a series on the channel.
Is it actually possible to have a separate loading and unloading station in Planet Coaster? I don't think it is, but if it is, do you have any plans of doing that? I think that'd make this more realistic to Disney roller coasters.
Totally not me coming back to this 7 years later, gathering Silv's perfect creativity for when PlanCo 2 comes out :)
You could always use Arrow tracks for mine train coasters, since many Mine Train coasters- such as Trailblazer at Hersheypark- use Arrow tracks.
How do you build the coaster so seamlessly, I have a lot of trouble with the interface, the coaster not turning where I'm pointing and always been obstructed by something
great build!!
how are the stats of the track? do you pay attention to them when building in a realistic way?
i got problems building the way i want it to look, while trying to keep good stats.
any tips?
I just recently went to Disney World and this reminds me of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad !!!! makes me miss it 😢😊
it's 80F outside right now, but i can't, in good conscience, settle in to watch one of silv's videos without a cup of hot chocolate. so suffer i will in the name of quality entertainment.
Its like if th planet coaster community are the pupils and Silvarret is the teacher, beacuse 50% of everithing in planet coaster is made by Silvarret, the master of planet coaster
Catwalks inside Everest are pretty obvious. There is a walkway pretty much along the track 75% of the ride.
Hi, please, how did you make the roller coaster over the terrain and didn't deform it? At the beginning, as you build the track after lift?
When I put on Surface lock it won't work! Plz help
My man, do you know what auto-tunneling is
Terrain at the time when this was recording didn't work the way it does now :I
you can do doubling coasters up to 5 coasters! you should make one!(P.S. Nerdcubed said he would love to see you make one)
Disney 'the only company that spends $300 million on theme park props in 1 ride'
hey, you should make an outback Australian town, weather it is an old or modern style. i have always thought they have a very nice and defined style.
Can you toggle the collision detection on and off? I think there are situations where it might be useful, like ensuring realistic spacing between rides.
Colorado Adventure in Germany is one of these Minecoaster things too i think, they have pretty similar minecarts and tracks :D
If you like coasters that interact with the terrain a lot, you'd love Tennessee Tornado. It's an Arrow Custom Looper that plays mine train when it's not taking you through three of the largest inversions on any Arrow Custom Looper, and unlike most Arrows it's actually pretty smooth.
Yeah, although I've never been on it, it looks great - definitely a shame Arrow went bankrupt not too long after.
When he references mini trains, is he talking about narrow gauge or the large functioning models like say in zoos or the train in a park nearby dover ohio.
Silv, what's your view on making standalone coasters versus complete parks? I started focussing more on standalone coasters but my latest coaster actually branched out into a whole park. What should I do?
That's the opposite of a problem, man! Most people just focus on standalone coasters because during the building of parks you may lose interest.
@Silvarret Look at Colorado Phantasialand and tell me what you think about it Silv and get some insperation :D
So new player/newish PC gamer, how is he getting the track to go beneath the terrain without building a tunnel first?
I like the double-up!! If you don't keep it there then at least put it somewhere else, reminds me of a couple of rollercoasters I know here in the states
If you want to see more planet coaster videos, check out the channel PB&J!
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How? how silv. ... this hole coaster is super awesome and there is a lot of time gone in to it but the thing I liked the most was the trick with he cars XD
Where Can i finde the settings that allows the coaster to go over or inside the tarain like your does.
Tis is absolutely fantastic. Suddenly I feel like I'm the less creative man on earth!
I'm watching this while waiting in line for Big Thunder Mountain Railroad at Disney!