@@SnackBar762 It was more a sarcastic comment from my side, hinting that, like most narratives coming out of North Korea, the narrative is curated by the regime
@ "Accordingly, on the day of the founding of the nation, the great leader Comrade Kim Il Sung clearly stated the fundamental direction and position of establishing the national flag that the national flag of the republic to be founded in the future should be truly Korean in name and reality, both in its form and in its content, and he personally gave specific instructions on the ideological content that should be contained in the national flag and the means of expressing it. It was one day in January, Juche 37 (1948). The great leader , who was present with the national emblem and the national flag designers, appreciated their efforts and said that the work of establishing the national emblem and the national flag was a very important state affair, adding that making a good national emblem and national flag is of great significance in shining the dignity and honor of our country that had lost its light on the world map in the past and in enhancing the national pride and self-esteem of our people. The hearts of the draftsmen were filled with excitement as they realized once again how important and responsible a project they were involved in. That day, the Fatherly Leader said that it was good to use red, white and blue as the colors of the national flag, saying that the red of the national flag symbolizes the blood shed by the anti-Japanese martyrs and Korean patriots and the invincible might of our people who are firmly united around the Republic, that the white of the national flag symbolizes that our country is a single-ethnic state with one blood, language and culture living innocently in the same land, and that the blue color symbolically shows the courageous appearance of our people struggling to build a democratic new society and the spirit of the Korean people struggling for world peace and progress. The Fatherly Leader went on to give specific instructions that drawing a five-pointed star in the white circle of the national flag would visualize the traditions inherited by our Republic, the wise spirit of our advancing people and the splendid development prospects of the country. Under the direct guidance of the great leader, the red flag of the Korean Republic was completed." www.ryongnamsan.edu.kp/univ/ko/research/articles/96e07156db854ca7b00b5df21716b0c6 No mention of the USSR here
A small one-person channel that delves deep into seemingly obscure yet very important and relevant topics concerning world history? You have a lot of potential and got my sub, keep up the good work!
Literally, everyone forgets both sides were essentially puppet states for the Soviets and Americans. They were just buffer states whose goals for liberation were snatched from the two imprealist power. The only good thing America did was let the dictators collapse in the 80s.
The funny thing about those comments saying it’s not Russia it’s the USSR is every single good thing the Soviet Union does people say that Russia did that ignoring all the republics but when the USSR does something bad that wasn’t Russia it was Russia and the republics. It’s like when during ww2 they ignore the contributions of all the republics but say it was Russia who won the war.
wrong, it's the opposite. When ex-soviet countries or others abroad say something positive about USSR, they always find Armenians, Ukrainians etc. in there, but all the bad stuff is left to Russians but to be fair, Slavs did like 99% of effort on the Eastern front.
As a Russian I see the USSR as just one of the many iterations of our statehood. The words 'Russia' and 'USSR' are synonymous to me. Also, are those comments (I have yet to see them) saying that a bureucrat of ours designing the flag of the DPRK is a bad thing? How is that so?
When I was in the US Army as a Korean linguist, we were told that the NK flag was just one of many designed by a COMINTERN office back in the 1930s, intended to replace those of countries "liberated" from capitalism.
@@LeftHandedAsians This was at the Psychological Operations unit at Fort Brag, back in the early 1980s. The Korea section was a couple of very old guys (WWII veterans) who had worked Korean since 1945.
Not Russia, but the Soviet Union. Russia officially was a part of it (as Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic - RSFSR). Other republics had their separate flags and anthems. And Lebedev was a major general, not bureaucrat.
The funny thing about this comment is every single good thing the Soviet Union does they say that Russia did that ignoring all the republics but when the USSR does something bad that wasn’t Russia it was Russia and the republics
And yet Japan’s constitution preserved the monarchy, preserved the symbols, rearranged the government structure to the Westminster system. The Americans didn’t need to keep the Emperor. They could’ve easily got rid of the Japanese throne, but they understood that the Emperor was crucial to not being seen as oppressors by the Japanese people.
@@authorofone Yeah, they preserved a few old symbols to create the illusion of continutiy and sovereignty to avoid the possibility of open revolt. A little bone for the dog from the owner's table.
It's interesting how there's many people in the comments who believe that a Korean reunification is realistic or even desirable, but absolutely wouldn't say the same about a Chinese, Yugoslav or Soviet reunification. Simply because the dominant narrative they've told is that one is good and moral and another is evil and unacceptable. As a post Soviet person, tbh, I believe that a Soviet reunion is actually more likely because the living conditions and culture between post Soviet states is much closer than between modern day North and South Korea. Although to be honest there isn't any "objective" reason why any country should or shoudn't be reunified, and it obviously will depend on the ruling ideology. But neither is actually "objectively correct".
@LeftHandedAsians that is pretty much true, the tay son flag is an inverted scheme color of the nguyen dynasty flag, you can look it up later on. Although it does definitely not have the modern style to it, it was yellow fins-red background and yellow circle symbolizing the sun.
@@LeftHandedAsians both the south and the north acknowledge this, as in the indepdent research in 1972 - Việt Phong Sử 1972 - Trần Huy Liệu 2000 "History of Hanoi" - Lịch Sử và Văn Hóa Việt Nam (history of Vietnam) - University of California Berkeley -
Academic works back in the Southern Regime of Republic of Vietnam(1954-1975) also recognize the flag as in Quân Lực Việt Nam Chống Bắc Và Nam Tiến( translated as : Armed Forces of Vietnam, Against the North and Southward ) by University of Michigan in 1968 As with state publisher "Lịch Sử Thủ Đô"(history of the capital) (2000) by Hanoi Publisher
As a Russian I wanna thank you for making this video. This is a part of history not many people in either the West or here are aware of. I find it very curious that we essentially created the DPRK. I live in Saint Petersburg, and it is here that the first head of the Soviet Civil Administration in Korea, a man by the name of Terenty Shtykov, is buried. That man is essentially the true founder of the North Korean state, while Kim Il Sung, with all due respect, was just a head of state chosen by the Civil Administration at first.
@@jyy9624Do you know that they were the first country that made it to the stratosphere? That’s why there was a space race. What about the atomic bombs made by the US that still has effects today?
History can be distorted but I like the old Taegukgi flag of the Korean Govt in Exile, and also the PRK flag during Korea’s trusteeship which both the USSR and US hated.
Ancient flag wins,New flag other flag that came with a bucket of little green army men ,the new flag basically says military stockpile of expendable human bodies while Moscow eats caviar.
@yumallah sounds ancient to me, I wasn't around at the time,perhaps you were that's cool ,the symbolism is ancient you gots to know where I'm coming from GET THE F#@× OUTA HERE with the time leaping troll shit ,I don't feel like arguing on the lame @$$ enternet on topics most MFRs not be trippin on. 👋
6:09 para mi Cuba debió rediseñar su bandera. La que llevan fue inspirada por la bandera de EEUU y creada en EEUU. O sea, es una bandera que representa cuando se volvieron colonia de EEUU.
very well done! it must be said, to the tankies, that even if one thinks the soviet union was an equal union, the videos use of 'russia' instead of 'the soviet union' is justified. as the flag came from moscow with russian text accompanying by it
all you showed was an unreliable anecdote from a guy lost most of his memory. his anecdote didnt even claim the flag was designed from the soviet union, also lebedev never abolished the taegukgi flag which makes the anecdote even more dubious. kim il sung and neither the north korean government claimed that kim il sung himself designed the flag. it was actually Kim Chu-gyong who designed the flag. he was awarded in 1978 for his designs.
Kim Ju-gyong was originally credited with the design but it is now credited to Kim Il-sung If you can read Korean, here is one example: Kim Il-sung University's (North Korean) website claims that Kim Il-sung designed the flag: www.ryongnamsan.edu.kp/univ/ko/research/articles/96e07156db854ca7b00b5df21716b0c6 There is no mention of Kim Ju-gyong in this article from a North Korean government-run institution on a North Korean website. Pak Il was still pretty sharp when he gave his interviews regarding the flag and his story was corrborated by another former high-ranking DPRK official from the time. It's still the most reliable story we have regarding the flag. Also, he claimed that the design was sent in from Moscow with its symbolism provided for only in Russian. Sounds pretty clear that it was from the USSR, no? Even if the official designer is unknown. And what do you mean that Lebedev never abolished the flag? You mean like officially? If so, forcefully changing another country's flag is not something the USSR would have done in an open and official manner. That's horrible optics. It would make more sense for them to make it seem like it was out of their own desire
@@LeftHandedAsians Kim Il-sung University never claimed that kim il sung designed the flag, if u read the article it says that he instructed the "designers" to make the flag. so no he was not the designer. "pretty clear that it was from the USSR, no? Even if the official designer is unknown." where does he say who the designer of the flag was? Nowhere. only evidence is Kim Chu-gyong and some guidance from kim il sung. what ur saying is a totally different claim of the documents came from not the design. Pak-Il has no information on how the soviets obtained the flag design. It could be that they obtained it from north korea. Also USSR never abolished the flag, it was the north koreans themselves who did it.
It says that he gave the basic guidelines as to what the flag should look like, even if he didn't come up with the exact final design: red, white, and blue, with a star in a white circle; he also provided the symbolism as to what all of this would mean If the design was from North Korea with its symbolism defined by Kim Il-sung, then the USSR and DPRK would not have made Lebedev's official interpreter translate the Russian-only document explaining the flag's symbolism into Korean for other members of the government in Pyongyang, as they would already have known what it meant And like I said, the USSR wouldn't have changed the flag in an official capacity
@ none of that proves he was the designer of the flag. I said he was guiding the designers he didnt make the flag. His flag designers did however. important disctinction. And no such document ever existed. its only a claim he made and also if it was true that the documents exists. soviet archives and Lebedev's documents and memoires would've proven it. And also Pak didnt even remember the exact details in the document in the korean interview further proving his memory loss. Since we know that the symbolism provided by russia was contradicted by kim il sungs and north korea's official interpretation. it is a dubious source. Where did i say anything about translation? I only assumed that the design flag could've been stolen by russia and then reinterpreted by russia. None of this contradicts who the designer of the flag was. "Official capacity" you havent proven that lol
The thing with North and South Korea is: Even tho it is one Ethnicity, the differences are TOO big now to ever unify to one united Country. Take an Example of the Arab World: They all are Arabs, one ethnicity, but were divided into many Pieces. Now, the differences are too big for them to ever unite again. This is a Fact that we all have to accept. And i don‘t see the Kims as communist leaders, but more as a Dynasty, wich were the same as the previous dynasties in the Korean History… By the way: Super Educational Video! Love from Moscow!
This makes no sense. There is no such thing as "Too big to unify". Literally look to North Korea's longest land border, China. The PRC is extremely united, while also being centralized. The Arab example is like comparing a shattered glass pane to a snapped pencil. There is no limit to uniting a population. While it may seem that North and South Koreans are too different, they still share many cultural bonds. While capitalism has used South Korea like a [-----]light, that doesn't mean a cultural revolution cant change it.
@@NKVD.Officer the definition of one ethnonation usually being "one culture, one ethnicity, one people" doesnt really apply to both Koreas anymore China despite its divisions have its Chinese identity live on despite centuries of dynastic rule and 3,5 decades of division under warlords North Korea and South Korea arent one nation anymore
@@3dcomrade I somewhat agree, but its not set in stone like other divided populations. This division hasnt even existed for 100 years. The division you speak of is superficial.
are you gonna ignore that primary language of siviet union was russian and that its capital was in moscow, which is part of russia or that soviet union came out of russian empire? IT wasnt a part of IT was soviet union
You need to look up for the French Revolution of 1789, you will better understand the centralization of power, language and national. Also, pre-revolutionary Russian writing system was complicated to learn and most of population was illiterate, so the Bolshevik Revolution simplified the Russian writing. Finally, you forget the fact that you can an administrative language (for bureaucracy and stuff) while speaking your native tongue (e.g : Georgian (Stalin's tongue btw).
@@jeffkardosjr.3825Russia WAS the Soviet Union. It's like saying that the British Empire wasn't British. The Soviet Union was born out of the Russian Empire, and was a continuation of the Russian Empire.
4:21 Perfect example of the soullessnes and tyranny of the Soviet Union. A large faceless machine ruled by petty beurocrats with no respect for anything that wasnt material.
@@yumallahHe mentioned the Soviet Union, not Russia. Considering modern day Russia bombs Soviet cities and hospitals, I would say that your government can't really claim the legacy of the Soviet Union, whether in cultural, scientific or technological achievements. If anything, the current day Russia seem to have an anti-Soviet regime, probably a puppet one set up by the USA. Otherwise, their actions are simply unexplainable. If one US state started to invade another US state under completely made up pretexts, would you actually believe Americans actually wanted this and it would've been in their great interests?
What L? It is the Soviets in 1945 and late 40's, who by their actions decided the fate of Asia. Geopolitical events that put Japan in their place and still pay off for Russia to this day, in South and East Asia.
Well the North Koreans don't do the pledge because they don't know how to PLEDGE ALEGIANCE TO THEE: TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE AND INDIVISIBLE Normal stuff I did as a kid.
Idk in my opinion a communist country creating flag for another communist country doesn’t sound that humiliating, as one of the main aspects of communism are cosmopolitanism and internationalism☝️🤓
The leaders of USSR were not all ethnic Russians (both during and after Bolshevik Revolution). Lenin was from a certain Jewish adjacent ethnicity, Stalin (real name Zhukavshvili) was Georgian (he treated better his native Gergion Soviet Republic than the rest of USSR during his whole reign). USSR's doctrine (which was fanatical) is based upon the "internationale" Marxism and it does not care for the individual culture and religion (any religion was forbidden). Language is tied to one's religion (e.g Polish = based on Latin ; Russian = based Cyrillic).
From what I know the origins of the Chinese flag are better documented, with the PRC requesting flag designs from the public in several newspapers and choosing one out of a few thousand designs submitted No doubt that they were influenced by the USSR, though
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I can’t believe Kim Il Sung lied to me
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@@SnackBar762 about inventing the flag himself
@@SnackBar762 It was more a sarcastic comment from my side, hinting that, like most narratives coming out of North Korea, the narrative is curated by the regime
@ "Accordingly, on the day of the founding of the nation, the great leader Comrade Kim Il Sung clearly stated the fundamental direction and position of establishing the national flag that the national flag of the republic to be founded in the future should be truly Korean in name and reality, both in its form and in its content, and he personally gave specific instructions on the ideological content that should be contained in the national flag and the means of expressing it.
It was one day in January, Juche 37 (1948).
The great leader , who was present with the national emblem and the national flag designers, appreciated their efforts and said that the work of establishing the national emblem and the national flag was a very important state affair, adding that making a good national emblem and national flag is of great significance in shining the dignity and honor of our country that had lost its light on the world map in the past and in enhancing the national pride and self-esteem of our people.
The hearts of the draftsmen were filled with excitement as they realized once again how important and responsible a project they were involved in.
That day, the Fatherly Leader said that it was good to use red, white and blue as the colors of the national flag, saying that the red of the national flag symbolizes the blood shed by the anti-Japanese martyrs and Korean patriots and the invincible might of our people who are firmly united around the Republic, that the white of the national flag symbolizes that our country is a single-ethnic state with one blood, language and culture living innocently in the same land, and that the blue color symbolically shows the courageous appearance of our people struggling to build a democratic new society and the spirit of the Korean people struggling for world peace and progress. The Fatherly Leader went on to give specific instructions that drawing a five-pointed star in the white circle of the national flag would visualize the traditions inherited by our Republic, the wise spirit of our advancing people and the splendid development prospects of the country.
Under the direct guidance of the great leader, the red flag of the Korean Republic was completed."
www.ryongnamsan.edu.kp/univ/ko/research/articles/96e07156db854ca7b00b5df21716b0c6
No mention of the USSR here
Bro what 💀
Probably the best pronunciation of Russian names I’ve ever heard by a non-native speaker
I tried my best 😂
I agree
A small one-person channel that delves deep into seemingly obscure yet very important and relevant topics concerning world history? You have a lot of potential and got my sub, keep up the good work!
Thank you so much!
So tragic that the flag of Korea’s empire, and liberation struggle has been effectively stollen from the conscious of North Koreans
Yeah, honestly sad what's happened
It'd be very strange for two countries at war to have effectively the same flag though.
The Korean War is best seen as a civil war
@@big.atom37 shouldve changed it up a little bit if both were vying to be the real korea
Literally, everyone forgets both sides were essentially puppet states for the Soviets and Americans.
They were just buffer states whose goals for liberation were snatched from the two imprealist power.
The only good thing America did was let the dictators collapse in the 80s.
The funny thing about those comments saying it’s not Russia it’s the USSR is every single good thing the Soviet Union does people say that Russia did that ignoring all the republics but when the USSR does something bad that wasn’t Russia it was Russia and the republics. It’s like when during ww2 they ignore the contributions of all the republics but say it was Russia who won the war.
Hey man. I love your GTA videos ❤❤
wrong, it's the opposite. When ex-soviet countries or others abroad say something positive about USSR, they always find Armenians, Ukrainians etc. in there, but all the bad stuff is left to Russians
but to be fair, Slavs did like 99% of effort on the Eastern front.
Holy hell, can you even speak English?
Standard ideologue behavior.
As a Russian I see the USSR as just one of the many iterations of our statehood. The words 'Russia' and 'USSR' are synonymous to me. Also, are those comments (I have yet to see them) saying that a bureucrat of ours designing the flag of the DPRK is a bad thing? How is that so?
When I was in the US Army as a Korean linguist, we were told that the NK flag was just one of many designed by a COMINTERN office back in the 1930s, intended to replace those of countries "liberated" from capitalism.
Interesting! When was this? And who exactly was it that told you?
I am leaving a comment to be notified in case this dicussion advances further
The CCP was made by Soviet Russians too and it's flag too, even the name was chosen by them.
@@LeftHandedAsians This was at the Psychological Operations unit at Fort Brag, back in the early 1980s. The Korea section was a couple of very old guys (WWII veterans) who had worked Korean since 1945.
@@zawzawaung6789 Wow! I wonder if any of that information made it into records that could be FOIAed, or is available in Russian archives
They just simply thought that the taegeukki is an old order, while they're are an a new order
Please keep on going. ❤
This channel is so educational I love it
Thank you so much for watching 😂
Not Russia, but the Soviet Union. Russia officially was a part of it (as Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic - RSFSR). Other republics had their separate flags and anthems. And Lebedev was a major general, not bureaucrat.
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The bureaucrat part isn't in reference to Lebedev, who didn't make the flag
I like the flag of DPRK 🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵
This is the same vibe as the guy who say America is a continent when people talk about american
The funny thing about this comment is every single good thing the Soviet Union does they say that Russia did that ignoring all the republics but when the USSR does something bad that wasn’t Russia it was Russia and the republics
this is so interesting, especially the modern interviews with pak great vid!
Thank you so much! So happy you found it interesting 😂
Korean Empire’s anthem was made in Europe, by Scottish man
Franz Eckert was a German from Silesia!
No way only 200 views?
this is a hidden gem
Thank you 😭
@@LeftHandedAsiansPeople need to know why!
And Japan's constitution was created by the Yankees.
And you were created by Blacks
Nice whataboutism you've got there
@@Asbestos_I hope you are happy ignoring obvious things 🤗
And yet Japan’s constitution preserved the monarchy, preserved the symbols, rearranged the government structure to the Westminster system.
The Americans didn’t need to keep the Emperor. They could’ve easily got rid of the Japanese throne, but they understood that the Emperor was crucial to not being seen as oppressors by the Japanese people.
@@authorofone Yeah, they preserved a few old symbols to create the illusion of continutiy and sovereignty to avoid the possibility of open revolt. A little bone for the dog from the owner's table.
It's interesting how there's many people in the comments who believe that a Korean reunification is realistic or even desirable, but absolutely wouldn't say the same about a Chinese, Yugoslav or Soviet reunification.
Simply because the dominant narrative they've told is that one is good and moral and another is evil and unacceptable.
As a post Soviet person, tbh, I believe that a Soviet reunion is actually more likely because the living conditions and culture between post Soviet states is much closer than between modern day North and South Korea.
Although to be honest there isn't any "objective" reason why any country should or shoudn't be reunified, and it obviously will depend on the ruling ideology. But neither is actually "objectively correct".
A most fascinating story. Thank you.
Thank you for watching!!
Excellent video, very interesting subject! You deserve way more views :)
Thank you so much!
dude this video should have a million views, its just so good
Thank you so much!
I can't believe what I just heard, this is so... indescribable, as a Vietnamese
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One correction though. The Vietnamese flag was designed based off the previous Tay Son Dynasty flag.
Is that true? I've heard that the Tay Son flag with the yellow disc circulating online is a modern creation
@LeftHandedAsians that is pretty much true, the tay son flag is an inverted scheme color of the nguyen dynasty flag, you can look it up later on. Although it does definitely not have the modern style to it, it was yellow fins-red background and yellow circle symbolizing the sun.
@@LeftHandedAsians both the south and the north acknowledge this, as in the indepdent research in 1972
- Việt Phong Sử 1972
- Trần Huy Liệu 2000 "History of Hanoi"
- Lịch Sử và Văn Hóa Việt Nam (history of Vietnam) - University of California Berkeley
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Academic works back in the Southern Regime of Republic of Vietnam(1954-1975) also recognize the flag as in Quân Lực Việt Nam Chống Bắc Và Nam Tiến( translated as : Armed Forces of Vietnam, Against the North and Southward ) by University of Michigan in 1968
As with state publisher "Lịch Sử Thủ Đô"(history of the capital) (2000) by Hanoi Publisher
Nah, the flag have nothing to do with Tay Son flag, it's just a pure communist flag (there is no source of Tay Son flag ever exist)
As a Russian I wanna thank you for making this video. This is a part of history not many people in either the West or here are aware of. I find it very curious that we essentially created the DPRK. I live in Saint Petersburg, and it is here that the first head of the Soviet Civil Administration in Korea, a man by the name of Terenty Shtykov, is buried. That man is essentially the true founder of the North Korean state, while Kim Il Sung, with all due respect, was just a head of state chosen by the Civil Administration at first.
Do you not know you also created stasi getmany
@@jyy9624Do you know that they were the first country that made it to the stratosphere? That’s why there was a space race. What about the atomic bombs made by the US that still has effects today?
History can be distorted but I like the old Taegukgi flag of the Korean Govt in Exile, and also the PRK flag during Korea’s trusteeship which both the USSR and US hated.
Thank you for watching! I'd really love to visit St. Petersburg someday
@@AceKing-h3j I know dumb commies with German and British tech just like I know dumb japanese
Underrated. I’ve never really wondered about this, but it’s very interesting.
Thanks for watching!
great video and good informations!!
thank you..
Thank you so much! 😊
Times change, and with it, people. No matter how sad or brutal a history is, one must never allow nostalgia to distort reality.
Soviet made North Korea's flag: 🥱
Russian made North Korea's flag: 😳😱👀
What do you mean?
@yumallah More hype, it's boring to say that communist made a communist flag
Ancient flag wins,New flag other flag that came with a bucket of little green army men ,the new flag basically says military stockpile of expendable human bodies while Moscow eats caviar.
It's not even ancient, less than a century older than the DPRK flag.
@yumallah sounds ancient to me, I wasn't around at the time,perhaps you were that's cool ,the symbolism is ancient you gots to know where I'm coming from GET THE F#@× OUTA HERE with the time leaping troll shit ,I don't feel like arguing on the lame @$$ enternet on topics most MFRs not be trippin on. 👋
Interesting stuff! Thanks and keep it up!
Thanks for watching! :)
Awesome video in discussing the historical reality of the North Korean flag. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video
This is content I would watch late at night
Thanks for watching :)
6:09 para mi Cuba debió rediseñar su bandera. La que llevan fue inspirada por la bandera de EEUU y creada en EEUU. O sea, es una bandera que representa cuando se volvieron colonia de EEUU.
very well done!
it must be said, to the tankies, that even if one thinks the soviet union was an equal union, the videos use of 'russia' instead of 'the soviet union' is justified. as the flag came from moscow with russian text accompanying by it
all you showed was an unreliable anecdote from a guy lost most of his memory. his anecdote didnt even claim the flag was designed from the soviet union, also lebedev never abolished the taegukgi flag which makes the anecdote even more dubious. kim il sung and neither the north korean government claimed that kim il sung himself designed the flag. it was actually Kim Chu-gyong who designed the flag. he was awarded in 1978 for his designs.
Kim Ju-gyong was originally credited with the design but it is now credited to Kim Il-sung
If you can read Korean, here is one example: Kim Il-sung University's (North Korean) website claims that Kim Il-sung designed the flag: www.ryongnamsan.edu.kp/univ/ko/research/articles/96e07156db854ca7b00b5df21716b0c6
There is no mention of Kim Ju-gyong in this article from a North Korean government-run institution on a North Korean website.
Pak Il was still pretty sharp when he gave his interviews regarding the flag and his story was corrborated by another former high-ranking DPRK official from the time. It's still the most reliable story we have regarding the flag. Also, he claimed that the design was sent in from Moscow with its symbolism provided for only in Russian. Sounds pretty clear that it was from the USSR, no? Even if the official designer is unknown.
And what do you mean that Lebedev never abolished the flag? You mean like officially? If so, forcefully changing another country's flag is not something the USSR would have done in an open and official manner. That's horrible optics. It would make more sense for them to make it seem like it was out of their own desire
@@LeftHandedAsians Kim Il-sung University never claimed that kim il sung designed the flag, if u read the article it says that he instructed the "designers" to make the flag. so no he was not the designer.
"pretty clear that it was from the USSR, no? Even if the official designer is unknown."
where does he say who the designer of the flag was? Nowhere. only evidence is Kim Chu-gyong and some guidance from kim il sung. what ur saying is a totally different claim of the documents came from not the design. Pak-Il has no information on how the soviets obtained the flag design. It could be that they obtained it from north korea.
Also USSR never abolished the flag, it was the north koreans themselves who did it.
It says that he gave the basic guidelines as to what the flag should look like, even if he didn't come up with the exact final design: red, white, and blue, with a star in a white circle; he also provided the symbolism as to what all of this would mean
If the design was from North Korea with its symbolism defined by Kim Il-sung, then the USSR and DPRK would not have made Lebedev's official interpreter translate the Russian-only document explaining the flag's symbolism into Korean for other members of the government in Pyongyang, as they would already have known what it meant
And like I said, the USSR wouldn't have changed the flag in an official capacity
@ none of that proves he was the designer of the flag. I said he was guiding the designers he didnt make the flag. His flag designers did however. important disctinction.
And no such document ever existed. its only a claim he made and also if it was true that the documents exists. soviet archives and Lebedev's documents and memoires would've proven it. And also Pak didnt even remember the exact details in the document in the korean interview further proving his memory loss. Since we know that the symbolism provided by russia was contradicted by kim il sungs and north korea's official interpretation. it is a dubious source.
Where did i say anything about translation? I only assumed that the design flag could've been stolen by russia and then reinterpreted by russia. None of this contradicts who the designer of the flag was.
"Official capacity"
you havent proven that lol
There’s some controversy with the flag’s designing but North Koreans sources do give Kim il Sung a responsibility on the flag’s creation
nice video!
Thank you!
Great video
Thank you!
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Let’s hope the North once more gets to fly their historical flag which they fought for, representing freedom, and not oppression.
Kim Jong Un so much resembles his grandfather Kim Il sung
It's intentional!
It's deliberate. He's propping up his rule by making it look like he is the Kim of that Kim's line...
15:00 it is used at important events
I found this super interesting
Glad you found it interesting :)
Who thinks Kim Jong Un looks like a super sized Kim Il Sung?
What is the name of the film at 5:45?
I cannot believe samsung lied to me
Very informative much wow
Hope it was a good watch! :)
Best video ever
Thank you 😂😂
Great video!
Thank you so much'!
REALLY? I always thought their flag was bequeathed to them by Texaco! And also Vietnam's flag is Hardee's, South Korea is Pepsi, and Japan is 7up.
The thing with North and South Korea is:
Even tho it is one Ethnicity, the differences are TOO big now to ever unify to one united Country. Take an Example of the Arab World: They all are Arabs, one ethnicity, but were divided into many Pieces. Now, the differences are too big for them to ever unite again.
This is a Fact that we all have to accept.
And i don‘t see the Kims as communist leaders, but more as a Dynasty, wich were the same as the previous dynasties in the Korean History…
By the way: Super Educational Video! Love from Moscow!
That doesn't mean the two should continue to live as enemies. I hope some kind of reconciliation be made, even if reunification isnt possible.
This makes no sense. There is no such thing as "Too big to unify". Literally look to North Korea's longest land border, China. The PRC is extremely united, while also being centralized. The Arab example is like comparing a shattered glass pane to a snapped pencil. There is no limit to uniting a population. While it may seem that North and South Koreans are too different, they still share many cultural bonds. While capitalism has used South Korea like a [-----]light, that doesn't mean a cultural revolution cant change it.
@@NKVD.Officer Communism is Dead bro get over it
@@NKVD.Officer the definition of one ethnonation usually being "one culture, one ethnicity, one people" doesnt really apply to both Koreas anymore
China despite its divisions have its Chinese identity live on despite centuries of dynastic rule and 3,5 decades of division under warlords
North Korea and South Korea arent one nation anymore
@@3dcomrade I somewhat agree, but its not set in stone like other divided populations. This division hasnt even existed for 100 years. The division you speak of is superficial.
So not Russia, but the Soviet Union which Russia was part of.
are you gonna ignore that primary language of siviet union was russian and that its capital was in moscow, which is part of russia
or that soviet union came out of russian empire?
IT wasnt a part of
IT was soviet union
@shef8764 It was part of the Soviet Union. It was only one of the 15 union level republics.
The video says that the flag redesign came from Moscow
You need to look up for the French Revolution of 1789, you will better understand the centralization of power, language and national. Also, pre-revolutionary Russian writing system was complicated to learn and most of population was illiterate, so the Bolshevik Revolution simplified the Russian writing. Finally, you forget the fact that you can an administrative language (for bureaucracy and stuff) while speaking your native tongue (e.g : Georgian (Stalin's tongue btw).
@@jeffkardosjr.3825Russia WAS the Soviet Union. It's like saying that the British Empire wasn't British. The Soviet Union was born out of the Russian Empire, and was a continuation of the Russian Empire.
Of course, it’s always the USSR!!!! I knew I was suspecting that!!!!
The role of Soviet Koreans in North Korea reminds me of the role of Soviet Poles (like Konstanty Rokossowski) in Stalinist Poland
cool video!
Thank you!
Please do more videos on North Korea
I'll try my best!
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Oh really, who could've imagined? Surely there are no latin american constitutions written in Cuba, right Venezuela, Nicaragua, Ecuador, right?
Right?
4:21 Perfect example of the soullessnes and tyranny of the Soviet Union.
A large faceless machine ruled by petty beurocrats with no respect for anything that wasnt material.
Yes, we are sooo evil here in Russia, heartless monsters, right? Meanwhile wholesome USA always respects everyone and treats them with respect, right?
You just described the USA
>”Soviet Union was a faceless bureacratic monster”
>look inside
>Sweden, European Union
Says it all.
@@yumallahHe mentioned the Soviet Union, not Russia. Considering modern day Russia bombs Soviet cities and hospitals, I would say that your government can't really claim the legacy of the Soviet Union, whether in cultural, scientific or technological achievements. If anything, the current day Russia seem to have an anti-Soviet regime, probably a puppet one set up by the USA. Otherwise, their actions are simply unexplainable. If one US state started to invade another US state under completely made up pretexts, would you actually believe Americans actually wanted this and it would've been in their great interests?
South Korea was also a US colony that brutally repressed the Jeju workers and they now live in a Chaebol Dystopia
the cocaine is being sent to your neighbourhood as of writing
-CIA
@zpydd_ Yup!
Well, you’re not completely wrong
most of history always ignores the south korea fascist government and tens to paint a ridiculous cartoon villain of the DPRK
5:45 Ronald Reagan?
Yup, he seemed to be present in a number of Cold War propaganda videos I found
Common L form the soviets
😰
rare*
What L? It is the Soviets in 1945 and late 40's, who by their actions decided the fate of Asia.
Geopolitical events that put Japan in their place and still pay off for Russia to this day, in South and East Asia.
No
@@vlad_47 the americans alredy defeated japan, the soviets just landgrabed as much east asia as they could
Add subtitles
@@Zen-f8q There are subtitles!
I am from America and even I thought that Kim Il Sung made that flag 😂
Looks like their propaganda machine is working 😂
@@LeftHandedAsiansPretty much.
I knew that, I knew that from my very childhood that something is wrong with the North Korean flag , thanks for explaining in such a great way
@@HariomSinghChauhan-y9e You're welcome!
15:20
Poor horse 🐴
Was made by the Soviet Union which is different
Well the North Koreans don't do the pledge because they don't know how to
PLEDGE ALEGIANCE
TO THEE: TEXAS
ONE STATE
UNDER GOD
ONE AND INDIVISIBLE
Normal stuff I did as a kid.
What’s the song that’s playing at 7:42 ?
용서못해 by Bgm President
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Idk in my opinion a communist country creating flag for another communist country doesn’t sound that humiliating, as one of the main aspects of communism are cosmopolitanism and internationalism☝️🤓
But damn imagine leaving a British part of your flag even after decolonisation bruuuuh
Не удивлен
Not surprised
made by the USSR*
Russia ≠ USSR
Russia had the most power and influence over the other republics
@@emilv22It did. You see why we Americans had to do what we did.
@@emilv22Eastern bloc yes
The leaders of USSR were not all ethnic Russians (both during and after Bolshevik Revolution). Lenin was from a certain Jewish adjacent ethnicity, Stalin (real name Zhukavshvili) was Georgian (he treated better his native Gergion Soviet Republic than the rest of USSR during his whole reign). USSR's doctrine (which was fanatical) is based upon the "internationale" Marxism and it does not care for the individual culture and religion (any religion was forbidden). Language is tied to one's religion (e.g Polish = based on Latin ; Russian = based Cyrillic).
Made by Russia*
Russia = USSR
The USSR was the continuation of the Russian Empire, spoke Russian, with a majority Russian population.
I love ancient aliens
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@LeftHandedAsians it's unbelievable
How about China? If not the Soviet who made it, maybe inspired by it.
From what I know the origins of the Chinese flag are better documented, with the PRC requesting flag designs from the public in several newspapers and choosing one out of a few thousand designs submitted
No doubt that they were influenced by the USSR, though
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What exactly?
@@LeftHandedAsians anecdote never claimed that a soviet bureaucrat designed the flag lol
INFRARED RISING
cold war simplified
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Syria civil war wasn’t during the cold war
Bro... SOVIET FLAG was made by FRENCH!!!!!
??
@LeftHandedAsians french Revolution flag ia red and we're just copy it basically
What?
@@LeftHandedAsiansThis is what happens when people think too deeply over it.
What did you sniff?
Lol
Horrible government
Nah, the anthem and Our National Flag is played way more.