Cats - What Went Wrong?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Have you heard about the movie Cats? Have you? Here's a cursory overview of the many production failings that resulted in one of the most unfinished big budget films in recent years, employing advanced 'digital fur technology' (too little time, too little experience, a VFX client with no understanding of the technology and no desire to learn) to bring Tom Hooper's vague daydreams into your nightmares. The Waste Land it ain't.
Cats is a film that might even be worth watching. But only when drunk. And with friends. And only once. And while doing something else. In another room. Vomits.
Reddit Cats Link
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Music from other places:
Charly (Alley Cat Remix) - The Prodigy
(From: A Fistful Of Dynamite) - Banco Nacional De Mesa Verde - Morricone,
(From: Ran) - Hell's Picture Scroll - Toru Takemitsu
Scatman (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-bop) - Scatman John
Rumtumtugger from the Cats Musical.
Thanks for watching, brush your teeth.
Never cared about the musical. Never watched the movie. But I'm obsessed with reviews of the movie. Such a glorious dumpster fire.
I recommend the T.S Eliot poems.
@@thecinematicmind He deeply regretted that they were widely published. It wasn't what he wanted to be known for. He wrote them as a gift for a specific child, and had meant them for an audience of one.
Read The Waste Land.
I recommend the ralphthemoviemaker review
You need to smoke more weed, take more fun drugs and embrace british eccentricity! It’s a Glorious film ! 🤯
Watch the Maggie Mae Fish review. It's life-changing
i do wonder what the animated Spielberg version from the '90s would have been like.
I just remember growing up hearing from my parents how terrible Cats was. We rarely went the theatre, they just let me know how terrible of an idea Cats was.
@@zerphase The general feeling of the musical Cats is one either loves it or finds it very boring/uncomprehensible. There is almost no middle ground.
In Lovecraftian Lore there is a play called "The King in Yellow" the play directly connects all those acting it and viewing it to the Old One Hastur. No showing of this play has ever been completed with the sanity of the audience or the actors in it intact.
I believe this is what Cats is.
I left my sanity in Cineworld
A book by Robert W. Chambers, actually and a rather good one.
I know this is Lovecraft we're talking about, but what are the logistics of this play? How did they get through a table read? What were rehearsals like? Were the understudies told of this? What about closed and open dress rehearsals? I can get behind unfathomable, unimaginable evil, but I need answers for these questions dammit!
@@Enevan1968 I have it by my bedside right now - isn't it the case that both are true? It was written by Chambers, but it does exist as a part of the Lovecraft mythos, as many people have contributed to it over the years (Clarke Ashton Smith, for example)
@@staidenofanarchy The King in Yellow is not written by Lovecraft and Hastur is the most famous creatures not created by Lovecraft. But in my opinion The King in Yellow is an amazing read if you love cosmic horror. However, for a quick answer...
Hastur's influence spreads like a virus, hearing his name or seeing his sign will spread his influence and control. He seems to prefer to target creative types, so figures rehearsing and performing the play are now already under his influence. And they have an obsessive need to show others the Yellow Sign or spread Hasturs name. For them, what better way then an act of art?
Edit: wrote this in a rush and made it sound like Hastur was added into the mythos later. He was not. He was created by Ambrose, first made into a more Cosmic Horror story by Chambers, name dropped by Lovecraft, then made into a full fledged old one by Derleth.
Didnt mean it to come off like that
I saw this film in theatres with a friend.
It felt, like, five hours long, and at the end of this monstrosity, all we could do was laugh. Not because it was funny. No, we laughed much like a Lovecraft character laughs when exposed to an eldritch truth too terrible to comprehend; out of despair and madness.
What I'm saying is the film wasn't very good.
You need to smoke more weed and embrace british eccentricity ! 🤯
Laughing like Arya Stark when The Hound brought her to The Vale?
@@withalittlehelpfrom3 More like Walter White in the crawlspace.
I did the same thing with Assassination Nation. Me and my buddy got so delirious that we went around the theatre pointing at the screen. We were the only ones in the theatre after the one other guy in the front left 20 minutes in because we were laughing too much.
what are talking about this was a materpieace x
_"I say that because this could have made money. Not Terminator money."_
Man, this thing didn't even make Terminator: Dark Fate money, and that's just sad.
Not sad but well deserved.
The true dark fate was that we live in a world in which Cats and Terminator Dark Fate exist.
@@BaranoffIsaac I clearly disagree.
@@BaranoffIsaac there is no debating taste.
Still damned glad that we do not share our taste in movies.
@@BaranoffIsaac Finally someone who agrees with me! :D
And to you others: of course "Dark Fate" can't live up to the first two movies. Not even to the third one. But it was far more entertaining than the two movies before. To me, at least, it was a decent movie.
Why didn't the actors just wear stylised cat costumes like in the stage show? It would have been good. Or if it wasn't good it would have been less nightmarish.
I've been wondering that too. The stage production of Cats worked for YEARS with just stylised cat costumes and the limitations of effects and props for the stage. With a limited budget and an emphasis on good directing and cinematography, Cats could have been a great musical, instead of what we got.
Then again, Ryan George put it best - perhaps this was also one of those instances where the stage production should have stayed in the theatre and not be made into a movie. (and we already had a Cats "movie" to begin with, that being the 90s filming of a stage production)
Because costumes aren’t meant to be seen up close in 4k. You ever talk to someone who is wearing a ton of makeup on their face? Whether they are wearing a costume or just not good with makeup. It looks terrible.
Because they wanted to be seen to spend a lot of money because there were a lot of big names in it.
Big names, big money is all you need for big profits right?
The very definition of lazy.
@@Theyungcity23 do you seriously think it would look better than the CGI homunculi we have now. Don't forget cinema was around for decades without CGI.
@@ieuanhunt552 but 4k hasn't been around as long as cinema. With the level of detail we expect in a movie the CG costume route that we also saw in Avengers Endgame is the best route at the moment.
And the nekomata cat human fusion is what Cats is.
I LOVE, unironically, the old one, the one they filmed as "stage musical, but recorded, with extra-nice makeup for the closeups", which was indeed lots of fun. Stage dancers/singers having a good time and hamming it up to be catlike and adding funny additions in the background of any given song. I can't bring myself to watch this new one, having seen clips of some of it. I'll keep my old DVD with the obvious costumes that do way more to make me imagine singing felines than this ... thing.
The magic of fun vs 50million dollar budget? Sounds about right!
I still have a VHS wich i wach from time to time haha
I remember watching Cats as a kid, and it was a lot of fun. I know it has no clear narrative or meaning but I liked the music and the strange premise. This film version is just terrifying.
Its on blu-ray and it looks better.
TheBlankFromHeck oh it makes sense now. I was way too young to understand it back in the day when I saw it.
I also really love the old one, and having seen the new one is not as good obviously but I feel like its still CATS so you might have a good time watching it!
"The narrative momentum of a penguin climbing a greased hill."
This guy's got a way with words.
Starlight Express movie production pitch: So you know the musical, everyones on roller-skates pretending to be trains yeah? Well instead of that we want to invest $200 million into developing ground breaking technology utilising cutting edge surgery techniques with cybernetics to transform the actors real-time into terrifying human-train hybrids! Just think of the huge bank we can bring in!!!
If they really want to make another ALW movie musical, they should adapt Billy Wilder's Sunset Blvd. I'm a fan of musicals but not really an ALW fan BUT I think the music in his adaptation of Sunset Blvd. was pretty good. Not Jesus Christ Superstar good but real good.
So
Thomas the tank engine?
Call it "Starlight Express: A Marriage of Iron and Flesh"
Nice
Weyland-Yutani approves!
As someone who works in software, this is all really familiar. I think what you actually have here is basically hit and run management. The director makes a game changing decision every monday morning, emboldened by their perception of the speed of the technologies used, and everyone else barely hangs on trying to keep up with the changes.
Why didn’t they just made it fully animated, like Steven Spielberg wanted to do? They could have still had the choreography.
Maybe. But I heard a fan of the stage show say that its appeal was largely about the dancing. They would hire really great dancers to perform spectacular choreography. And all that gets lost when you digitally replace someone's body.
I've been wondering if an animated cats could work. Think is, if there was an animated Cats, it should be a straight adaptation of the original T.S. Eliot's book "Old Possum;s Book of Practical Cats", because the stage production and flow of Cats the Musical was focused on being "a play", with an emphasis on dancing.
@@iAmTheSquidThing As a fan I can confirm, the dancing and of course singing is one of the top appeals of Cats. This new movie failed to realize that so we got stuck with mediocre dancing and singing 😔. It doesn't help that they ditched almost all the stage choreography for whatever they have in the movie
It needed to be real humans in real make up on real sets, and stick to the original play. It’s not complicated people. 🤯
@@hanniffydinn6019 exactly. The 1998 filmed version did it right
There's a great tradition of James Corden being in awful movies.
I remember those days when Lesbian Vampire Killers came out. It was only the beginning of a massive shitshow of an actor’s career.
You spelt *everything* wrong
@@BaranoffIsaac one of my favourites, pity he says "i got this" so many times though
Of course. He’s an awful person
@@Imlaor25 One of the worst celebrities that's for sure
“We were just rushing...we had written it the day before....”)
You don’t say.
*artistic-merit.exe was not found*
In that scene the interviewer looks like she's just come from a root canal with inadequate anaesthesia
I love that George put Star Wars music in the background as she said that.
Having been exposed to a bit of how the creative side of the music industry ‘works’ I’m not surprised at all to find that Swift is just a lazy chancer.
@@wattage2007 as a musician i just wana say... ugh, sigh.
“What works in one medium, doesn’t always work in another”. That sentence sums up Cats biggest problem.
The Doom franchise is another example of this... Just compare Doom Eternal (game) to Doom Annihilation (direct to dvd).
P.s. Funny thing is, the Doom films always went for an 'Alien' type story, while in my personal opinion I feel they should've went closer to a 'Die-hard meets Event Horizon'.
The best thing I've heard about this movie was, "It's was the worst thing that's happened to cats since dogs." Lost my ish.
Koenshakuable best thing i heard was there was a first cut where everyone had CGI buttholes, and someone had to go in and CGI them all out ....... hahahahaha ha
It’s like the Snyder Cut...
The Sphincter Cut!!
@@allendean9807 i want it
@@allendean9807 Dang! That's like The poor bastard who had to cut down J-lo's backside in that movie Cell. (I think that's what it was called) I just remember her as the skank who stole Beat-Nut's 'Watch out now' Riff. Now I wanna listen to old hip hop. So something positive DID come out of this asshole affair... Ugh... Crazy cat ladies went crazy for a reason after all!
Thanks for the giggles!
The Last_Saint
They had to _wipe_ them all out, one by one...is the way I read it.
Where’d he put all those buttholes?
Pretty sure that was Ricky Gervais at the Golden globes. Not sure where he first heard it, though.
As someone who saw the original play, I have to admit that the movie did an excellent job of reproducing the complex set of feelings I experienced while watching my geriatric orchestra director get a lapdance from one of the male cats.
I think your comment about more pre-production rather than more post-production is pretty on-point. It's like they ran with their first ideas and just started filming.
Jamston Julian Yes - it's like it was a "24 hour film challenge" for studios.
someone probably said ‘should we do this at all?’ at some point in pre production. i’m sure they were batted away because the money people think that taking something everyone’s heard of with Andrew Lloyd Webber’s name attached and throwing a bunch of celebrities at it ‘can’t possibly fail’. and to be fair to the money people, that formula often works
I bet, the "digital Fur technology" was caused by "internet gas" : D
I want internet gas powers; it's better than Shakespeare's powers
theres actually a fur effect in after effects. it can be quite difficult to use and doesnt always achieve the best results.
Any film with James Corden and Rebel Wilson is a film I will never, ever watch.
David Cronenberg's "CATS"
would actually be better
11:46 They had the balls to submit this to the Oscars.
LOL
Nothing a trip to the vet can't take care of...
that is a brass pair. or a total lack of self-awareness...
@@daltonbedore8396 I assume it was desperation. They really wanted that Oscar. They needed it to come out around Christmas to try to make it a sentimental thing and they rushed it to achieve that goal.
Thankfully, Universal withdrew the campaign for Cats, and focused on 1917 instead.
Hollywood: "What went wrong?"
Reality: "You made Cats."
When the shot of Sir Ian McKellen came up at 4:46, I legitimately thought this was an edit from you, over-exaggerating the effect of how bad things might look if they were made at home in 5 minutes. Then, I realised, that it was from the movie. Oh my...
its creepy AF and i saw lots of stuff
Cheshire Cat I have to wonder what they had on Dench and McKellen to get them into that turkey.
James Corden is such a souless shill
Talentless too. I go by the rule of thumb that if he is involved in a production in any capacity, it will be sh*t.
I can't believe Craig Ferguson replaced the show with that asshole. Wtf was he thinking?
You forgot talentless and corporate manufactured too!
I think he works nicely with his talk-show bits as short, amusing youtube clips you sometimes watch (so, really, ALL late night at this point, with Conan being the one who showed the rest the fact that late night works perfecting for the TH-cam era).
@@xBINARYGODx Good God, man, NO! "His" bits that he does are ALL stolen from other, more talented people, in the UK.
Nothing he does is original or interesting, you're only rewarding his hackery by engaging with it.
How he got Craig Ferguson's job when he left, I'll never understand. No matter what he's doing, he is the exact same, dull, talentless and insufferable prat.
The funniest thing I've ever seen involving Corden is when he got pissy with Patrick Stewart at an award show for Stewart mocking his big belly. Now that was comedy.
The whole problem started when the studio accidentally contracted Tom Hooper instead of Tobe Hooper.
105%
I had that before, thought I was getting to meet James Wong and it was actually James Hong; true story.
Could you imagine the stink from PETA?
"Who should we get to direct?"
"Tobe Hooper."
"Uh, did you mean Tom Hooper?"
"No. Tobe Hooper."
"But...He's dead."
"Oh. Well, get Tom Hooper then. It'll be cheaper."
Except Les Miz was at hit for Universal. Tom Hooper made Les Miz, not much else to say.
The cats are closer to the size of mice when they're dancing on the table. They're way too skinny. Little tiny thin kittens.
What size are they meant to be? I always thought they were human-sized cats, but now I see that they're cat-sized humans... with cat fur and cat ears?
Human sized cats or cat sized cats, that suddenly become small enough to sit on a railroad rail like it is a stool (6:59) This movie is a disaster. It is going to axe kick Showgirls out of its number one spot in the "worst of" lists.
They seem like DT hallucinations, that's how they keep changing size too.
they seem more like rat sized...
my cats way bigger on the table than they are for sure
@@LividImp I though Gigli had long taken over that throne.
You need to smoke more weed and not think. Embrace british eccentricity! 🤯
Thank you for absolving the VFX folks... In many respects what they did should have been award-winning considering the circumstances so I understand.
This film won 6 out of 9 Golden Raspberry awards including Worst Picture of the year.
Shaine White This movie was worse than the Fanatic which is just making fun of people with mental disabilities and demonizing them? Come on
@@Theyungcity23 uh...yes, it absolutely is.
@@emarskineel how so?
@@Theyungcity23 having watched neither, save a stage production of cats.
Cats is one of the worst things ever made.
Making fun of disabled people might be funny.
Shaine White yeeesh how bad were the winners in the categories they lost?
The live recording of songs didn't work in "Les Miserables" either. Especially when Russell Crowe sang.
Poor Tugger never recovered after that one.
From what I understand part of the problem both in that movie and Cats is the actors/actresses were allowed to set the tempo of the songs with the orchestra having to work around that with the already written music. The fact that most of the actors/actresses aren't professional vocalists doesn't help either since they need coaches (and to listen to the coaches).
Quote of the video “the narrative momentum of a penguin climbing a greased hill” - Superb!
"the narrative momentum of a penguin climbing a greased hill"...a gorgeous analogy
All I remember from this movie is GENITAL CATS GENITAL CATS GENITAL CATS GENITAL CATS GENITAL CATS.
But no butthole.
Read this as Gentile Cat.
Jellicle songs for Jellicle cats
James Corden: “...with an amount of technology...” *holds finger and thumb not very far apart at all*
"what went wrong?" Hollywood overestimated the size of the furry community.
Even we thought it looked horrendous.
I didn't know that was possible
The Furrries rejected it.
Yeah most of the people I know in the furry fandom were not enthusiastic about this movie.
Dont be silly, furries are into animals not horrible humanoid mutant hairy aliens
*Looks up at noose* "not tonight, old friend"
Realizing I’m going to have to watch more footage from Cats “Maybe, we’ll see, old friend”
-"The narrative momentum of a penguin climbing a greased hill"
Georg is on fire!
George has a humor that rings with me and gets me laughing right out of the gate, thanks for another good one
Nice insights. I feel like if they'd gone with a more whimsical approach, like Rocky Horror Picture Show level, better script and VFX takes all the time it needs, it could have worked. Rocky Horror songs mostly take place indoors, but it NEVER feels cramped because of the lighting.
I never knew a cgi (trying to be sexy) cat version of Taylor Swift wearing kitten heels would be so disturbing.. ...
Oh god. I just realized you're right. They ARE kitten heels.
/facepalm
I don't think I'll ever forget this comment...
Like she is not disturbing enough
When one sees an Old movie, considered to be the times´ pinnacle of production, sometimes one wonder "wow, people thought THIS was advanced?"
This one, on the other hand, had everyone asking that mere seconds after the logos were displayed and the ACTUAL movie was show.
I can only imagine how this movie is gonna feel like in a few years from now on...
Imagine this treatment for Starlight Express. "We're calling it 'flesh train', and we think kids will love it!"
"lose $50M".. Well, we have heard rumours that studios make money losing films on purpose in order to cook the books and hide the profits.
Of course, on the face that makes as much sense as giving away a million dollars in order save 200k on taxes... So I might need an accountant here to make it clear.
Peter Gruhn SPRINGTIME FOR HITLER.....
unrelated to the video but just wanna say georg i really enjoy your channel and content, and appreciate you not having payed advertisements in your videos nor churning them out weekly for profits, thanks man.
Why couldn’t they just do makeup and costumes!?!?? Hurts my heart
Duh, because it's the 21st century!
😄 😩 😔
They could've done it as a 3D animated film, I think it would also be more commercially successful that way because more kids would want to go.
Make-up and costume, CGI animation or styled 2-D animation... But, I'm with you despite not seeing the play nor this film. Hurts my heart, and my own ticker is run on caffeine at this point.
@@cottontail1039
Exactly.
It's almost like movie makers are not interested in producing something with timeless appeal. Nah, they want their millennial shit to be immediately dated. Yeah, that's the ticket.
The play has been around forever and people still pay to see it, so why not just film the stage show for posterity? Why try to turn it into something it's not and never was?
I have nothing constructive to add, I just want to mention I'm so happy you're back and in full form. :)
Fans of the musical Cats: We'd like a film version of the musical that's true to the musical but also utilizes the technology available today to make it... Well, good.
Directors: *fur now fur now fur now fuR NOW*
I just watched it last week at a friends house, it was alright, I enjoyed it, but it made no sense, not visually, stylistically, nor conceptually, it is entertaining, but in a really weird way.
Things that bugged me: they’re cats, but they aren’t cat sized, and their size varies, and some wear clothes. They dance, but it’s rotoscoped CGI, so it’s not impressive because it’s not real. They sing, but you can’t hear the words, but the words are the story, but the story doesn’t make any sense, and some of them can’t sing or dance.
But if you ever get a chance, see it, it’s… oddly fascinating… in a turkey in a car crash kinda way.
ToddintheShadows said it best: the definition of “bad art” is art that reminds you of something else that you would rather watch instead. And basically everyone would rather just watch a tape of a stage production than this. Or rather watch The Aristocats than the fucking stage production
Hell, even an hour and a half of cat videos on youtube would be preferable.
"Jesus Christ Steve! You wanna stop drinking?"
Shoulda been Priscilla Cat-queen of the desert-ish.
Also, somebody get on that
"digital-penguin climbing a greased-hill" technology...
Stat!!
That would have at least made it fun.
can computer people do that?
@@daltonbedore8396 lol
Come back man, the world needs you
What went wrong was the creepy and disturbing designs plus not everything translates to the screen well.
A friend who loves the theatrical musical also told me that they changed quite a few things in the movie, and not for the better.
@@jcohasset23 I've never seen the play live but back when I was in high school I remember someone had it on VHS and yes they changed things quite a bit.
Shite theatre translates to the big screen as... well... shite
The play isn’t shit. I’m not saying it’s the best thing ever but it’s not shite.
They also had some really weird terrible ideas. Like... Jennyanydots causally eating some of the roaches she was training. Which looks soooooo disturbing, since the roaches had human body and face as well. While Gumbie Cat song is a nice number in the musical, in the movie it just a terrible mess, with Jennyanydots just looking like an awkward, unfunny gluton and her causally eating the roaches while they are smiling is just... disgusting.
IRL Steve here.
My apologies for the drinking, boss... With all these clips of Cats, I had to find a way to make it bearable... And to help me forget...
Hito Shura Try watching it on acid instead lol
im gonna watch this in 144p because then it might not be so disturbing
When I see how much a disaster this movie ended up being, I wonder if, at least a part of it, couldn't have been mitigated by having the actors simply wear stage outfits instead of having an army of programmers create their ridiculous CGI fur. I know at least it would have saved them a lot of money.
That's the point I think... With CGI companies Hollywood created large behemoths that have to be constantly fed with new projects. Like the Karen haircut that Karen certainly didn't need but she definitely got persuaded to by the greedy hairdresser. Hard to upkeep, looks ratty after a week but also really expensive.
@@rosewatersaffron8430 Good point about the CGI companies. It would certainly explain why we have all these unnecessary bad CGI remakes of classic Disney films, like the Lion King.
I know! You can easily do the fur as as a practical effect, so why bother with CGI? Or if you're determined to go with CGI, have the actors wear full motion capture suits, and give the computer animators the time they needed to do it right.
I agree with GRS; this movie was designed to be a cash grab, a sure thing with a built-in audience. Nobody in charge really cared about the project for its own sake; they just saw an acclaimed musical, and thought they could do it better and bigger, and cover themselves in reflected glory. It was lazy and cynical, and it justifiably failed.
Even if CATS 2019 was technologically advanced, it will age really really badly for the next 10 years.
"Jesus Christ, Steve.
*Stares down audience*
You wanna stop drinking?!" 😂
3:05 Why does the interviewer look like she's going to have an emotional breakdown? Oh wait, it's about cats...never mind.
One reason why musicals, particularly sung-through ones, tend to work better on stage than on screen is because of intermissions. I can't imagine how difficult it would be to watch CGI cats sing for two straight hours while staying engaged and taking it seriously the whole time.
There have been some good musical adaptations to movies but they tend to have down periods in them that aren't musical to provide exposition, character development, plot advances, etc.. and Cats is essentially all music. In many ways it has more in common with an opera than a standard musical.
Georg I havent watched one of your videos in about 2 years. I'm LOVING the layout. The lamp is still here and the darkness really adds to the ambiance of the video. Great job!
If this was made in the 1980's Ken Russell would of been great to make an off the wall musical.
"The narrative momentum of a penguin climbing a greased hill." 😂😂😂😂😂
Ah, a Prodigy connoisseur.
On my birthday every year since I was 16 (21 now), my grandparents let me choose from the Pantages Theater’s lineup, I put on a nice suit, and go watch a play. Lion King, Phantom of the Opera, Les Miserable, and The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time, and most recently Cats. The play is actually really good. I chose it out of morbid curiosity and went in blind. But it was pretty incredible.
I won’t watch the movie, but from the clips and stills I’ve seen, it’s an affront to god lmao. It seems so passionless. So lifeless. Probably because there’s a difference between stage and film acting. I’m sure if they had the “right” actors and enough of the “right” people behind the scenes, it could’ve actually been good. Like how the guy who played LaFou in the live action Beauty and the Beast was the only trained and experienced stage actor, and imo, he gave the best performance. But I’m not a filmmaker. So I’m probably way off.
This film makes The Room and Plan 9 seem like Metropolis and Citizen Kane...
True lmao! And it makes Troll 2 seem like Bride Of Frankenstein.
The Room is the result of a single incompetent narcissist having total control over the picture. Cats was made by an entire committee of Tommy Wiseau clones.
At least Plan 9 From Outer Space is a classic film unlike those modern "movies".
You deserve so many more subscribers. You make such interesting and well made videos. Keep it up! You're slowly becoming one of my favorites.
You ever wonder if the reason why the faces are wobbling around on the cat bodies because they thought it was about "Jelly-Cool Cats"?
Thanks for another brilliant video. Please keep up the amazing work. You're one of my absolute favourite content creators and video essay creators.
Dear all that is unholy, seriously, the intro with your reactions is beyond hysterical. You're like the Conan of the film reviews and stuff. Georg Rockall-Schmidt, I hope you don't get the Mexican beer disease. In the great words of some guy in Better of Dead... "Man... don't you hate to see that... folks throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that." Georg Rockall-Schmidt-President-2110
Little 2001 A Space Odyssey reference in the intro ?
"Better Off Dead" to be exact. :)
They absolutely killed the joy and feeling in many of the songs to force them into some kind of support structure for the plot. That is the original sin of this version of Cats. Even with that, Skimbleshanks makes it all worth it.
I LOVED Cats. Best time I've had in a movie theater in YEARS.
Modt enjoyable movie after the room
This film truly was a glimpse into Lovecraftian madness and despair
Some things are best left alone, sometimes they are already in their intended and best medium. Sometimes books and screenplays shouldn't be made into films.
I can relate to the poor planning in pre-production, and really empathize with the crew who did try.
I’ve been on shows where the green screens were poorly lit to save a few hours or days of shooting time, adding almost a year to the edit. But hey, it was work. We were well paid.
With these kinds of overviews, I think there's always a tendency to play up how traumatic it is to watch and edit the bad movie. I don't think that was the case here.
1:44..that use of Morricone's score from Duck you Sucker, my absolute favorite, was wonderful...
Back when Amblimation was still a thing in the late 80s and early 90s, an animated film adaptation of Cats was one of the considered projects, but that never got off the ground. Unfortunately, years later, the horrifying CGI version did.
So basically, instead of gorgeous hand-drawn animation, we got botched VFX that had to be "patched" post-release and Uncanny Valley CGI cat-people monstrosities. Life's a bitch.
Landon Kemp I would murder at least several people to have a 2D animated Cats musical and would still be overjoyed by a fully CG one. What we got.. i did not want
Yeah, I understand, and even if those had failed critically and/or financially, they would have at least been visually interesting. What we got fails at even being that.
@@maniacaldude Well they did make the 1998 filmed stage version, really embodies what Cats is supposed to be. Still wish they were able to make the animated version though
THREE CHEERS FOR THE LAVA LAMP..
just thought we could use some positivism here...
"What went wrong"
Over reliance on CGI when the actual Broadway show is known for its wardrobe and makeup teams with a kinda shit musical.
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"digital fur technology" and by the looks of things it means a phone app. Perhaps they should have asked Dreamworks how to do this as they got it pretty good in a movie called Shrek, in 2 0 0 1 . . .
I gotta say bro your acting in this video is captivating. I’m only 2 min in but I must say you’ve made me feel like..not so much that you’ll attack me but that I’m somewhere dangerous. Kinda like the Cheshire Cat he’s not outwardly malicious but he fits right into the madness that surrounds him
Q: "Cats: what went wrong?"
A: Yes!
Q: Cats: What went wrong?
A: Correct!
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I've never seen the play/musical, but from what I can gather, it is one of these "of its time" hype-fests (like Rent was apparently), but that was not actually good at all. A lot of these musicals seem to get by on the singing/dancing, or just general zeitgeist, when the plots are shallow. So when you transfer that to a medium like film, where you lose that intimate physicality (especially with CGI), then the shallowness comes pouring though. Some things are just not meant to be films.
Both Rent, as an early-mid 90s based story and Cats, done in the early 80s are 100% products of their time. Both still have worthy things to say though. The movie tried too hard to be more than that.
@@PixelatedH2O I hate musicals (except RHPS and Dr. Horrible's), but my wife loves them, so I hear about them all the time. We grew up in the 80s, young adults by the 90s, so Rent should have really connected with her, but I've never heard her shit on a musical like she does Rent. Her face still wrinkles up like someone farted every time it is mentioned. Everything she has told me about it does make it sound like a train wreck.
@@LividImp I was born in '82 and love both. Rent is probably one of the most emotional movies I've seen. I grew up on musicals though and love them in general.
@@PixelatedH2O She's never seen the movie, she was talking about the musical play from the 90s.
@@LividImp The musical and the movie are almost identical. The movie even has some of the same cast. I personally prefer the movie but both are great.
5:50 you included a scene from the original CATS filmed in the Adelphi Theatre, which was a magical and great experience. That's unrelated to this modern edition. One of my favourite DVDs. That one was just dancers, incredibly fit and athletic, a joy to watch.
Just think about how much money they could have saved (and Lovecraftian horror they could have avoided) by simply having attractive actors in sexy outfits wearing clip-on tails and ears.
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So I finally decided to watch this movie since everyone is saying it is so bad. I figured it would be suicide squad bad and at least give a few decent scenes.
It's worse than anything you can imagine. I literally had to force myself to continue watching it. It is insane that the studio actually released this film to theaters. This should have been shelved for 3 or 4 years then dumped on Quibi.
At least Suicide Squad have some good moments here but it doesn't do any justice because WB butchered it. And look at what happened to Jared Leto after getting a lot of backlash for portraying the Joker wrong when the writers and the costume designers seemed to get away with the karma. Remember when Batman vs. Superman failed because of how confusing the plot was but the Ultimate cut really does make sense. I feel like the downfall for Synder is sad because of his daughter's death and people keep throwing some dirt on him while WB keeps laughing with their green piece of paper. Justice Leagues is an ultimate disaster to cinema and it's pretty laughable. Joss Whedon used to be great when he's working on Avengers (2012) but became more of a hypocrite because his work isn't that good (and yet WB hired him for an obvious reason). I'm glad that Synder Cut finally give him a redemption to fix the DCEU and it proves that WB shouldn't sabotaged the cinematic works.
Cats 2019 was doomed from the start to finish when, while the plot was faithful to the musical, the designs doesn't do give anything to redeem itself because of how terrifying the designs are.
"But why make a profitable movie when you can just lose a hundred and fifty million" 😆🤣 Funniest quote and I'm using it!
Cats: What Went Wrong?
Answer: It exists.
Corden has a magical ability to turn everything into a dumpster.
A dumpster that becomes a roaring inferno.
Are we sure Tommy Wisseau couldn't have done a better job with this?
He would make the movie enjoyable
The stage show is an ensemble with the whole cast on stage most of the time. Lots of great dance and harmony singing. Hooper got big stars for a few days and so they do a solo and get going. Thus is missed one if the charms of the live show.
Yeah hmm. So who didn't let the dogs out during filming?! :-/
Thanks for the continuing free education on film!
I have never seen the live production and I only caught a few bits of the movie, but it seemed to have a pretty obvious allusion to aspiring actors hoping to be discovered on Broadway. I didn't think it was really about "cats" at all, but that was a clever way to think about strays, like aspiring artists tend to be.
This film is destined to become a cult classic...
A $90 million cult classic
Tbh $90mil is mid-level these days
As always it gets hate and in a few months or year you will see a video saying how it is secretly genius.
@@Mr_Fancypants time does weird things to movies
Uncanny Valley says otherwise.
Hi there. Maybe you wont see this. But im actually curious if you feel like the winds have changed? If the movie is becoming a cult classic. No ill will in my question. Just real curiosity.
I love your videos! This one felt really quiet though compared to others...that or I'm more deaf than I though lol
My favourite bald beard boy is back! Again!
Evil stuff. Thank you for your amazing content and cheers from Berlin