Second Todd always squicked me out badly, it’s a reason I didn’t feel bad for him when it turned out he was actually Victor. Original Todd would’ve never done this.
Everything Viki said was right. She deserved better than what Victor and Tina did that summer. And the Marty thing was just gross, even if it turned out later that he wasn’t the real Todd. This must be so complicated for Viki considering what her father did to her. And the only qualifications his loved ones had at the time was that he not be violent and manipulative.
agreed. roger howarth left oltl multiple times specifically because he did not want the show to pull a luke and laura with todd and marty, but the show did it anyway. and in fact, it's arguable that what victor did to marty was worse than what todd did to her. both because he thought he was todd and therefore, in his mind, had already raped her once before, and because marty had amnesia, didn't know who either of them were, and therefore couldn't even fight back. just disgusting on every level.
@Black Fox The very quick synopsis is Victor when he still thought he was Todd kidnapped an amnesia Affected Marty and convinced her that they were in love and then had sex with her without her knowing anything about the rape. That was in addition to planning on kidnapping Starr's baby and telling her it was dead. He also messed with Vicki's kids, Natalie and Jessica, by hiding that Jessica's split personality had come back and was holding Natalie and her boyfriend hostage
@@corrinpaul thank you so much ... I'm a GH alum but have been watching y&r since they fired Steve Burton from GH and I like Trevor St Johns work so I was curious about his time in Llanview as Todd Manning, and all that sounds terrible smh not sure I'm still interested now( I remember the original Jessica she was such a beauty)
Ohhh wow, so harsh. I know Victor really screwed up, but could not help but feel sorry for the guy. He has that tragic flaw, just like Todd. Too bad he couldn't have told Marty the truth, before Batman John did.
Victor made lots of mistakes with Marty, but I believe that he loved her and never meant to hurt her. Victor is his own worst enemy. Maybe, that's why I can't help but root for the guy.
Second Todd always squicked me out badly, it’s a reason I didn’t feel bad for him when it turned out he was actually Victor. Original Todd would’ve never done this.
I never liked Victor Lord Jr, and stuff like this proves it. Even Todd, the most evil Lord child, was more loyal to Viki and Jessica than this Schlub
Everything Viki said was right. She deserved better than what Victor and Tina did that summer. And the Marty thing was just gross, even if it turned out later that he wasn’t the real Todd. This must be so complicated for Viki considering what her father did to her. And the only qualifications his loved ones had at the time was that he not be violent and manipulative.
agreed. roger howarth left oltl multiple times specifically because he did not want the show to pull a luke and laura with todd and marty, but the show did it anyway. and in fact, it's arguable that what victor did to marty was worse than what todd did to her. both because he thought he was todd and therefore, in his mind, had already raped her once before, and because marty had amnesia, didn't know who either of them were, and therefore couldn't even fight back. just disgusting on every level.
Years later, this is still such a vomit story line.
I never watched so can you give me a quick synopsis on what happened here
@Black Fox The very quick synopsis is Victor when he still thought he was Todd kidnapped an amnesia Affected Marty and convinced her that they were in love and then had sex with her without her knowing anything about the rape. That was in addition to planning on kidnapping Starr's baby and telling her it was dead. He also messed with Vicki's kids, Natalie and Jessica, by hiding that Jessica's split personality had come back and was holding Natalie and her boyfriend hostage
@@corrinpaul thank you so much ... I'm a GH alum but have been watching y&r since they fired Steve Burton from GH and I like Trevor St Johns work so I was curious about his time in Llanview as Todd Manning, and all that sounds terrible smh not sure I'm still interested now( I remember the original Jessica she was such a beauty)
There is an irony to Vicki telling "Todd" Victor did not do this. 😄
That storyline is despicable and one that Roger refused to do.
What would Victor Sr say about both his sons going for the same women
Ohhh wow, so harsh. I know Victor really screwed up, but could not help but feel sorry for the guy. He has that tragic flaw, just like Todd. Too bad he couldn't have told Marty the truth, before Batman John did.
Victor made lots of mistakes with Marty, but I believe that he loved her and never meant to hurt her. Victor is his own worst enemy. Maybe, that's why I can't help but root for the guy.