Ha, that hug Victor gave Sam was the most affection I have seen him show Sam EVER. Being dead serious, when he got him back from M&M he acted like Sam was a trophy he won (and not his child, which is how he treated all the kids, especially Dani when he found out about her) but ever since Blair dumped him in 08' Victor literally BAILED on Sam since. It's a miracle Sam even recognizes him cause since he has only seen Sam about 3 or 4 times over the span of five years! Ok, all for tonight but all
Why did the writers always create nightmare situations for Todd perpetrated by others, then make Todd out to be the bad guy for retaliating against the wrong that was done to him.
One last thing, I can't imagine how Todd feels cause Victor helped steal eight years of his life and back in 11' no one cared what he went through and acted like "how dare he come back here," but poor wittle Victor is gone for one measly year (probably killing people for the tatoo organization which is why he keeps lying to that idiot Tea and everyone else, refusing to talk about it) and everyone is babying him and welcoming the psycho back like it's fantastic. Some Twilight Zone bs right there.
Yes!! I agree 100%! This storyline was so annoying because his family was so completely unsupportive and nasty to Todd throughout. Victor the unemotional sociopath, was the one they fell all over. Difficult to watch
This is extremely heartbreaking. Learning that the only father you have known and loved all your life is not really your father but an imposter is just horrible. Well I don't see TSJ Todd as a horrible person. He really loves his family that he's known for 8 years and if he's the only father I have known and loved for so many years and has loved me back, I don't care what a stupid DNA test says, he's my father no matter what, and I will love him forever and would not care about the real Todd.
But there's no reason for them to reject and not care about their real father. It wasn't his fault that he was held captive for 8 years and tortured. It's fine and understandable that they love Victor but that's no reason to reject Todd
Except that Todd was savagely beaten as a child and abused physically emotionally and sexually. He was essentially tortured. Jack was pampered from the day he was born. So comparing the two and acting like Jack has any reason for his behavior just doesn't fly
If the show had continued, would we have found out what Victor was doing? It was good of TSJ to come back so Victor’s family would get to find out what we all did in the last ABC episode.
Okay, so this was after the TV one Life to live went off the air? (Cause don't remember this) I believe it went to web series for a bit? If so how can I see the web series shows starting from the beginning? Especially I want to see how they brought Victor back.
I started watching this only 5 years ago and tsj Todd is the only Todd I've known till now or since I've been watching re-runs of 2011. I like the real Todd but Todd #2 or Victor, I love more
The story of RH's Todd from start to finish is on TH-cam and I'd highly recommend looking it up to see the history because it is fantastic. RH is a brilliant actor, especially as Todd.
having such a realistic death. There was no point to this return, the worst in soap history but when you think about it most just wanted him to drop it off in Tea's draws anyway. Even if TSJ returns later it will be the same halfassed writing with him always leaving cause TSJ doesn't even want to do soaps anymore so just like this time that will be a waste too. I can't stop laughing at how hilariously bad his return was. Why even bother zzzzz.
trevor should have won an emmy for the death row storyline. the writers were able to take Trevor as Todd in many directions that Roger refused to go which is understandble
Ha, that hug Victor gave Sam was the most affection I have seen him show Sam EVER. Being dead serious, when he got him back from M&M he acted like Sam was a trophy he won (and not his child, which is how he treated all the kids, especially Dani when he found out about her) but ever since Blair dumped him in 08' Victor literally BAILED on Sam since. It's a miracle Sam even recognizes him cause since he has only seen Sam about 3 or 4 times over the span of five years! Ok, all for tonight but all
Now that was the perfect ending right there between Tod and victor right there
I feel sad for jack and Sam ❤❤❤❤
Why did the writers always create nightmare situations for Todd perpetrated by others, then make Todd out to be the bad guy for retaliating against the wrong that was done to him.
One last thing, I can't imagine how Todd feels cause Victor helped steal eight years of his life and back in 11' no one cared what he went through and acted like "how dare he come back here," but poor wittle Victor is gone for one measly year (probably killing people for the tatoo organization which is why he keeps lying to that idiot Tea and everyone else, refusing to talk about it) and everyone is babying him and welcoming the psycho back like it's fantastic. Some Twilight Zone bs right there.
Yes!! I agree 100%! This storyline was so annoying because his family was so completely unsupportive and nasty to Todd throughout. Victor the unemotional sociopath, was the one they fell all over. Difficult to watch
Worst storyline on OLTL ever. They never should have tried to recast Todd. The entire storyline around it and Victor was utterly ridiculous.
Excellent comment! So true
Jack has really improved acting wise
This is extremely heartbreaking. Learning that the only father you have known and loved all your life is not really your father but an imposter is just horrible. Well I don't see TSJ Todd as a horrible person. He really loves his family that he's known for 8 years and if he's the only father I have known and loved for so many years and has loved me back, I don't care what a stupid DNA test says, he's my father no matter what, and I will love him forever and would not care about the real Todd.
Same here
But there's no reason for them to reject and not care about their real father. It wasn't his fault that he was held captive for 8 years and tortured. It's fine and understandable that they love Victor but that's no reason to reject Todd
I agree with Blair about Jack being just like Todd.
Except that Todd was savagely beaten as a child and abused physically emotionally and sexually. He was essentially tortured. Jack was pampered from the day he was born. So comparing the two and acting like Jack has any reason for his behavior just doesn't fly
Blair has no control over those kids she's a damn push over lol!
There is nothing wrong with loving Victor but Jack is a bastard.
Love RH he's is the best and he is the original todd he's way better than Victor
If the show had continued, would we have found out what Victor was doing? It was good of TSJ to come back so Victor’s family would get to find out what we all did in the last ABC episode.
Okay, so this was after the TV one Life to live went off the air? (Cause don't remember this)
I believe it went to web series for a bit?
If so how can I see the web series shows starting from the beginning?
Especially I want to see how they brought Victor back.
It was 2013, and there is a todd and Victor Playlist on TH-cam, it shows Todd and Victor's storyline from beginning until the show ended
@@infjintegrityvsnarcissism7295 , thanks
You post AMC somewhere as well?
Omg do you post full episodes? @Toddmanning69
I cried seeing TSJ Todd go. I'm positive he loves his family that he's known and grown to love for 8 years. breaks my heart to see him say goodbye
Victor aka fake Todd
I started watching this only 5 years ago and tsj Todd is the only Todd I've known till now or since I've been watching re-runs of 2011. I like the real Todd but Todd #2 or Victor, I love more
The story of RH's Todd from start to finish is on TH-cam and I'd highly recommend looking it up to see the history because it is fantastic. RH is a brilliant actor, especially as Todd.
You know nothing about Todd if you only watch 5 years..... Todd been great since 1993
He's coming back. This was just for him get off the canvas for now.
having such a realistic death. There was no point to this return, the worst in soap history but when you think about it most just wanted him to drop it off in Tea's draws anyway. Even if TSJ returns later it will be the same halfassed writing with him always leaving cause TSJ doesn't even want to do soaps anymore so just like this time that will be a waste too. I can't stop laughing at how hilariously bad his return was. Why even bother zzzzz.
trevor should have won an emmy for the death row storyline. the writers were able to take Trevor as Todd in many directions that Roger refused to go which is understandble
Because Howarth actually has integrity. He was absolutely right to refuse what some of the writers wanted.
My dream has come true Trevor St John is here