California development corps moved I to our area and are doing new construction. The retail spaces are starting at 4x the market value of ANYTHING else in the region.
This is so sad, TNT used to be such a legendary store to me back in the day where I'd look at all the vintage cards I wished I could buy. I hope magic gets new management so the saga can go on...
@@mikebulmer9823 I hate how they don't make cards like they used to back in the day how the art looks worse and I love old school magic and want the game to go back to that.
@everythingmetal9400 I mostly agree. The old art is so iconic. Part of it could just he nostalgia. I will say though I love the art they have been doing to the lands lately. I never really cared before, I'd just throw 20 into my deck. Now I want themed lands in every set.
If you consider that Hasbro's intent is to strip mine the game and make all of the money they can right this moment then these decisions seem perfectly rational.
@@davidk.1917 After that move tried to pull with the OGL I'd guarantee the reserve list is going to go eventually. No doubt as a last ditch maneuver, but it's a matter of when and not if now.
This is the first real harbinger of the Magic apocalypse… say what you want about the value of consumer sentiment and brand loyalty and all that, but this is a very definitive financial sign of massive trouble. People say a lot of things based on emotion, but companies of this size only spend their money based on how they see the future playing out and this is a big vote of no confidence in MTG’s future
People would've been tripping over themselves to buy ABU/ARN/ANQ/LEG cards at current prices less than 2 years ago. I've seen Alpha Chaos Orbs offered for 5k recently. It's wild
I checked a couple of cards (Desert Nomads and Stone-Throwing Devils), and it's pretty clear theres a HUGE demand back in '21 and the print to oblivion period (government printing money I mean, not WotC prointing cards). Now they've dropped down to levels that are STILL twice as much as they ever were before that time. It's very stark if you look on Goldfish how they leap up overnight. So don't blame WotC for reserve list cards normalising in price post-covid handouts.
I might be the odd one out, but when this all started (seemingly around the first eldraine?) I sold the majority of anything I had (not much) that was worth anything. Ever since then I have been picking up the flashy 25 cent cards and enjoying playing the game for super cheap now. I know it's not going to ever make me any money and that has made it more chill!
Man i been buying selling the Troll and Toad in the Netherlands since 1995! They are the Mastodonts of MTG if they throw in towel it Sais a lot! The come all the way to the Netherlands racking massive sales here in the past.
Do you really feel like you've moved on while you comment on magic videos about how you've moved on past magic? See ya in a few years, with many regrets.
Then stop buying ANY new magic Rudy. When the big spenders stop buying from distributors, forcing the distributors to stop buying, it will send a message they wont be able to ignore.
maybe big spender , completed his whole collection; by owning every single card in legacy format. now he doesn't need to buy anymore. so maybe thats why?
To be fair, they've also severly limited their buying of Yugioh in the last few months. Regardless T&T are the last place I would order singles, their conditioning is never correct and they're often higher on prices. Sure sometimes they ship you foils instead of normal copies by accident but I was burned on Near mint cards actually being MP twice so I avoid them.
L5R has returned in my area I believe this will be the nail in wotc. A card game that is no longer made is being played at one of lgs's i play and buy at that a scary thought. 10 to 20 former magic players playing a dead game.
The surge foil reprint is a terrible idea but so was reprinting a bunch of cards in a standard set immediately after reprinting them in Commander Masters, further lowering the value of Commander Masters whilst it's still on the shelves. It's utter incompetence.
It's called a collectible card game you dolt. That's how it was created. When a company is selling these products for overinflated values then reprints the hell out of the money cards destroying the values, what do you think will happen? Beat it dork@@user-pq8on8bx9g
This reminds me of that cartoon Recess where TJ got all the mon stickers thinking he was rich, only for the next day they were worthless and everyone was on the next fad.
This was my first thought. I've not bought anything from them myself. But that's only because I've heard nothing but bad from them to where I have absolutely 0 interest in shopping from them.
I bought from them last in 2010, they would always get my order wrong so I never again brought from them since. They seem to get a lot of Pokemon business from what I can tell at Pokémon regionals I went to this year.
You say a few times that this is one of the worst videos you've done or it's terrible. This is some vintage Rudy greatness. Thanks for staying the course. Appreciate you.
This is a great opportunity to teach your friends economics. This is exactly what the US Federal Reserve has been doing with our dollar. They are literally “reprinting” your hard work.
This is crazy..i used to buy from T&T during ebay's peak day. I got my revised dual lands from them & i always thought they're the "last bastion" interms of buying & selling singles.
As long as Cox gets that quarterly earnings bump, the rest is irrelevant to him. If he gets canned down the road because of brand dilution or whatever, he'll get a $20+ million golden parachute and buy a couple more houses/yachts and be just fine.
The money is going elsewhere.... all my colleagues who played MTG have gone to other card games or are simply spending their money on other hobbies (or simply saving it). And when that gets to the breaking point due to all the various problems already mentioned, it simply breaks the ecosystem where eventually you're left with no stores, no players, and no new influx of people wanting to get into the game.
Mtg chased set collectors away many years ago with many of the same practices being used today, and none of the game's players cared. Now they are chasing power collectors away. I am pretty confident that the game's players don't care, because they are being chased away by brand new $50.00 cards currently legal in standard. Hasbro forced wotc to kill itself for hasbros greed.
They are making way too much new products, so many that by the time they have been realeased for a week the consumers have already moved to planning around the next one coming in another couple of weeks. It is insane.
Yeah. Not only terrible pricing, but have you seen the cards they grade as Mint / Near Mint?? Their grades and conditions are _horrible_. I quit doing business with them years ago.
I never thought I would see the day that magic the gathering wasn't the most reliable card game. Wasn't one of the standards to compare other card games too.
wizards reprint-policy is the only reason I am currently spending money on a non-rotating format, pioneer. I know that if some essential cards become expensive to the point where its harming the format they will get reprinted and that will be healthy. I quit playing Legacy and sold all my reserve listed stuff because the reserve list harms the game. It's only good for speculators who haven't discovered the stock market.
I’m curious what people want. I collect and play very frequently. I play with people that love that reprints are finally making cards affordable for them. I have friends who have collected for years and are selling because of those very same reprints.
I'll be sending my textured Jeweled Lotus in! I'll gladly support you, Rudy. I just wish I knew you were based out of Jacksonville while I lived in Kingsland, GA. 😅
NNNGAAAAAME PIECES! But yea, nothing can hold value any more because it becomes “reprint equity” to sell packs. See: Ragavan, Atraxa, Jeweled Lotus, Doubling Season, etc.
These are the signs that magic is collapsing, not people speculating on the internet. I bought almost all my Alpha/Beta from Troll or AnyCraze back in the 90s. I feel for these guys, but also realize that magic needs to die. Commander is NOT magic, and it is almost all Wizards wants and it is what has destroyed the "player" side. Now that the "collector" side has collapsed, the burden has shifted to the player side and players have rejected wizards offerings.
It's not surprising that the player side has fallen off. They're both reprinting too much and collapsing any potential collector value while simultaneously jacking up the prices of new products. Hasbro has effectively put MTG into a lose-lose situation.
Commander is what WOTC supports because it organically became the largest format. Players chose to play commander over other formats and so WOTC made changes to profit from that shift. It wasn’t the other way around. If you don’t agree then it’s just you happen to fall in the minority of what formats are popular right now. You all make these claims based on your own opinion and bias and have no data/stats to base any of these assertions on. More than one card game can exists. Popularity will wain and wax.
@@patmacrotch5611that's really what the take away is I have 10 60 card decks but when my friends get together they all wanna play commander. Its just fun having your commander on the field knowing he can't just die , it is what it is tbh . 🤷 Personally I think it's a balance 60 card format is fun ur building around a theme and some general counters in addition with 20 hp it's hard to get some bs rolling if u die while ur still setting up .
FNM used to be 5-6 (or more) teenagers going to the card shop, buying boosters and maybe splurging on Legends or Antiquities boosters to go with about $20 worth of lesser priced boosters, then going to a friend's house to play past midnight in group games. Casual group games were what really made MTG. All the money and competition in MTG does not make for pure fun. It was organic. No amount of effort by Wizards other than drowning will bring back MTG's glory days.
I don't know if you know this but players were enjoying EDH before wizards tried to corner that market. It's literally the only format I play and I play it weekly.
Totally intentional. They'd rather profit than have the secondary market make a dime. It's short-term thinking, but the shareholders are gonna love Q4!🤑
It just confirms Hasbro is strategically moving to eliminate LGS’s and the secondary market from a position where they might compete with Hasbro’s bottom line. It certainly explains WOTC’s inventory dump on Amazon and other partnerships with large big box retailers (and the rollout of MTG Arena). Hasbro doesn’t want anyone other than Hasbro itself to make money off Hasbro products. I wouldn’t be surprised if Hasbro is tied up in VC funds, and as soon as they’ve extracted all the value they can out of WotC, they’ll spin it off, leaving WotC with a mountain of debt and a brand in tatters.
Last time I bought a magic product was a throne of Eldraine… Last set I collected was the complete strixhaven, Japanese collection. Magic is dead.. Good thing you moved to LEGO, you know they won’t sell out, never publicly traded, not a Fortune 500, LEGO has been my standard for 22 years now.. LEGO Castle System is the purchases..
The unstated idea years ago when Hasbro took over and gave the imperative to WoTC to double sales was to bump the stock price to prime for a takeover and give the existing C-suite a nice cushion on sale. They've really shit the bed for everyone.
WHY don’t 1000’s of MTG collectors BLAST Hasbro HQ with scathing letters addressed to the CEO? Send a LOUD message. Rudy, post the address and proofread every letter 😂 But seriously.
As a fan and supporter of FAB. I hate that I could buy the Professor but not a Rudy deck. I had to watch you burn the cards. It's more likely that LSS will read this. We are still waiting on PVE. Maybe a Rudy deck for it?
The main reason I haven't gotten Round the table is because I can't stand "the professor", throw in a cold foil Rudy, I would have gotten 2 boxes. Other than that, FaB fuckin rules.
i'd like to think WotC's downfall started when they introduced Mutate and Companion. It was one thing that they had "Bestow" but at least that was comprehensible. They need "money cards" for most every set that can't just be "reprints" and i'm still debating if Jeweled Lotus was one of those things some players chased after, some players quite MTG. The one ring is one thing, but Orcish Bowmasters and Thassa's Oracle are ruining the commander format while blue keeps getting more ways to embody "fun police" when players would rather play a different TCG because it's more fun.
MTG died in Eldraine when they started printing Yugioh card variations where every card has 10 versions and none of them feel important anymore. That was the first major sign Wizards was cashing out on people. I called it as soon as that set came out and I’ve never been more right about something in my life.
You have a point, though i'm continually surprised that Kenrith the returned king is the top competitive deck option for competitive commander. @@ImSquiggs
Almost 80% at least of our local commander scene (100+ people) are playing proxies from mtgprint or other places like that for any card over $10... just weekly buying groups to negate shipping etc. And the truth is that who cares? People just want to play... and like you just said, our local game stores have just stopped buying cards and they never have any singles... its either give TCGplayer too much money, or just play with high end proxies.
I'm so annoyed they reprinted Surge Foil chase LOTR cards... Is it even legal to sell a product to consumers based on rarity, and then completely desecrate those rarity pull rates after 4 months? Stores holding normal collector boxes will lose money, collectors lose money, LOTR fans who dont even play magic lose money... Something tells me they've gone too far this time
The issue is less about reprints IMO. The problem lies in how bad WOTC has screwed over the standard format. It has been clear that Wizards have been at war with the secondary market. These things will end up spelling the end of the game if not a new dark age.
I told you this couple months ago Prince scenario changes name to symbol get his rights of his songs all back and that lasted almost 7 or 8 years I think it was
I graciously bowed out a while ago yea I’m sitting on product but I haven’t bought anything but singles I needed because it’s utterly outrageous to even get packs unless you want to pay an inflated price at Target or whenever Amazon wants to ship my order, there’s not many LG’s around here I’d rather take the extra 30 mins drive to Rudy’s spot than goto half the others and then the other spots are not open after 6pm half the time…. It sucks
Even with the news of printing more a Lorcana card like Rapunzel Gifted with Healing is going for over $50. I don't know if it's so much Magic reprinting as much as people are starting to discover there are games that are more fun to play. Not sure how Magic becomes a fun game for everyone instead of playing because you have purchased too many cards to quit.
Seems like Wizards likes to self-destruct the value of the cards. They just love to screw over the Distributors, the LGS, and the Players. They want it both ways where the charge extremely high prices for certain boxes from sets and then reprint everything into the ground where the value of cards tank. Why should players pay these high prices for collector boxes etc to get valueless cards? I will wait awhile to buy the singles and or proxies I want. SCREW Cocks and Williams who are ruining the collectability of the game. I will continue to play Commander at our kitchen table. Thank you for the video Rudy.
I’m just wondering when people holding stock will file a class action suit. The have a fiduciary responsibility not to poison the well of the consumer base. Short term gains for long term losses?
PCG!!! Hey rudy, just check the pcg pop report, you should be adding other TCGs to your coverage e.g. Dragonball number 4 on the pop report, interestingly I don't see any one piece! Also I'm seeing the numbers grow, looking forward to my slab i sent in to see what the quality in person is like!
As someone who doesnt invest in cards or packs, it still kinda blows cuz good cards are still expensive. I think there is a good case to just start buying proxies. They could even have better art. I've held my Unlimited cards for nearly 30 years and the price never went up. While the alphas/betas were expensive back then and have done about 10x over the same time period.
This is a key point, and I like using capenna for this comparison, a set that is objectively low value, but if your goal was just to accumulate the tri lands, as many as you could, it'd be very expensive. It's hard to justify spending hundreds on a mana base you could proxy for a fraction of that.
It's a lot like Nintendo "embracing" their retro games over the past 5 years or so. No company wants people to make more money on the secondary market off their property, than what they make from selling wholesale. Wotc doesn't care about product investors, and they don't really need to.
Personally, since I have a significant income, I'd be fine if games priced out people that can't afford 150 USD cards. I see no reason why the market should allow others to get rares under 100 - 150 USD each. I say we make all card games premium products. If we let cards get to say, 20 per card we are just wasting our time. I agree with you 100%, price out players who aren't willing to invest.
Wasn't aware most players need a foil etched alternate full art whatever. If you can't see there's a balance I can't help you understand. Much better the whole game collapses and then no one can play. Then we'll all be equally screwed just like you'd prefer.
Games are luxury items. MTG is a game, ergo prices do not need to be cheap. You also act like the majority of cards cost a fortune when that's just untrue. There are plenty of cheaper options that play just fine. Starter decks and jumpstart won't win tournaments, but if anyone wants to just jump right into tourneys then they should expect it to cost them.
The problem is you have a huge disconnect between those who play the game and those who use it as an investment. One side wants to keep the other side from winning. You have the investors who want every single card to cost 80+ dollars for a play set and then you have the other side that wants every card to be 0.25.
If stores stop carrying MTG, everyone loses. Players lose because they have nowhere to play the game they love. Investors lose because an irrelevant IP is a worthless asset.
It's also a compounding problem where Wotc is still selling their product as a "premium" product, where there is little to no value unless you hit a chase card (that quickly loses its value to a reprint in months, not years.) the prices are set as if these are collector cards and they aren't anymore. If they want cheap cards, the boxes have to be less expensive. If they want premium prices for boxes, they can't have everything be a cheap game piece. They want the best of both worlds and it's just not working. All those wanting cheap game pieces aren't spending hundreds of dollars on collector boxes. Collectors aren't buying cause nothing is worth anything. It'll eventually hit a breaking point.
lol, i am both, happy to sell rares single cards for 10 to 80 $, and happy to buy rares, uncommon, common for less than a dollar, or big bundle for around 10$ for 100 cards At some points it's crazy, selling one card at 35$, and buying 500 or more than 1000 cards for that budget of one edition, one clean bundle with full sets of commons cards, uncommon and few rares. it's so much nicer to collect and play. i don't care about overpowered over expensive cards, unless i got it in a booster and can sell it
@@culturegeekgaming2390 hey I'm happy for you if you're buying and selling. Some people just aren't happy buying hundreds of dollars worth of boxes and selling one 40 dollar card they get from it to buy more singles 😂
It's a lot of things. The card sets are thematic but utterly bankrupt in terms of doing anything interesting. They attempted to push the games limits through some of the sets like Ikoria and war of the spark. Heck, the two were different directions on pushing things (Use weird evolution mechanics and make planeswalkers mainstream). However, they kind of destroyed themselves by getting rid of block sets which forced them to have some rails on what they are doing each year. It's like the cereal industry and selling sugary cereal to kids with vitamins in it to feint being healthy. It's super stimulating and might get some people into eating it just because it is sweet, but once someone gets used to the sweetness it just becomes as bland as oatmeal after a while. This is especially true when everyone also tries to be super over stimulating and throwing tons of sugar into their own foods.
We just lost a 32 yr. LGS this year. Not only is there hardly any profit. The new rental agreements with skyrocketed monthly rent is a killer too.
California development corps moved I to our area and are doing new construction. The retail spaces are starting at 4x the market value of ANYTHING else in the region.
What was the name of the game store? where at? I'm wanting to do a video on why game stores are dying...
Dude the ending was hilarious! “Eventually, all the moles are whacked, and If everyone is whacked, no body gets off” 😂😂😂
he forgot to say he is wacked lol
Given T&T's history and involvement in the early day of Magic, it's actually kind of sad.
yeah it is used them off and on, always liked the site, remember finding them in advertisements from Inquest back in the day
69 likes. No-one touch it.
Companies often forget that their golden goose needs to be alive to continue to lay golden eggs.
The golden goose needs more moms for poking in the form of Timmy Vess
This is so sad, TNT used to be such a legendary store to me back in the day where I'd look at all the vintage cards I wished I could buy. I hope magic gets new management so the saga can go on...
Regardless of making every right decision from here, it will still take years to just get the ship stable again.
I'm surprised Troll and Toad is still in business. I bought a NM foil from them online and it came with a pepperoni stuck to it 🍕
Wait...like, an actual pepperoni? I need details.
Yup, absolutely destroying all new card IP. Hate Hasbro’s mishandling 🤯 unbelievable!
Same here I can't enjoy this game anymore
It kills me. I love this game, and while I love that I can build decks on the cheap, I hate that their is no collectibility anymore.
@@mikebulmer9823 I hate how they don't make cards like they used to back in the day how the art looks worse and I love old school magic and want the game to go back to that.
@everythingmetal9400 I mostly agree. The old art is so iconic. Part of it could just he nostalgia. I will say though I love the art they have been doing to the lands lately. I never really cared before, I'd just throw 20 into my deck. Now I want themed lands in every set.
If you consider that Hasbro's intent is to strip mine the game and make all of the money they can right this moment then these decisions seem perfectly rational.
The reserved list has to be in the crosshairs at this point.
@@davidk.1917it’s seriously over if they truly reprint the RL
@@davidk.1917 After that move tried to pull with the OGL I'd guarantee the reserve list is going to go eventually. No doubt as a last ditch maneuver, but it's a matter of when and not if now.
Welcome to capitalism
The cards won't go to zero even when the reserve list cancelled
This is the first real harbinger of the Magic apocalypse… say what you want about the value of consumer sentiment and brand loyalty and all that, but this is a very definitive financial sign of massive trouble.
People say a lot of things based on emotion, but companies of this size only spend their money based on how they see the future playing out and this is a big vote of no confidence in MTG’s future
People would've been tripping over themselves to buy ABU/ARN/ANQ/LEG cards at current prices less than 2 years ago. I've seen Alpha Chaos Orbs offered for 5k recently. It's wild
Almost time to buy.
It's tempting, but we aren't there yet. We have 3-6 more months before the really good deals come.
arabian night cards prices literally dropped nearly in half
Ooh what kind of shape was it in?
No faith in the company that owns the game. No faith they’ll respect the consumer’s money, investment, or collection value.
I checked a couple of cards (Desert Nomads and Stone-Throwing Devils), and it's pretty clear theres a HUGE demand back in '21 and the print to oblivion period (government printing money I mean, not WotC prointing cards). Now they've dropped down to levels that are STILL twice as much as they ever were before that time. It's very stark if you look on Goldfish how they leap up overnight. So don't blame WotC for reserve list cards normalising in price post-covid handouts.
I might be the odd one out, but when this all started (seemingly around the first eldraine?) I sold the majority of anything I had (not much) that was worth anything. Ever since then I have been picking up the flashy 25 cent cards and enjoying playing the game for super cheap now. I know it's not going to ever make me any money and that has made it more chill!
I'm selling my more expensive cards and just sticking with the regular stuff to play with. Little intent on collecting anymore
Man i been buying selling the Troll and Toad in the Netherlands since 1995! They are the Mastodonts of MTG if they throw in towel it Sais a lot! The come all the way to the Netherlands racking massive sales here in the past.
Wizards has killed MTG. Regardless of what Rudy says. Lots of people, including myself, have quit the game and moved on.
Can i have your cards?
It's fixable but it needs competent management. Unfortunately there's no sign of that happening anytime soon. 😞
Bye Felicia
my eBay sales in the past 30 days are up, so the game is definitely alive. You just have to be picky which MTG products you buy and sale.
Do you really feel like you've moved on while you comment on magic videos about how you've moved on past magic? See ya in a few years, with many regrets.
Then stop buying ANY new magic Rudy. When the big spenders stop buying from distributors, forcing the distributors to stop buying, it will send a message they wont be able to ignore.
He'll literally never do that. He'd sooner leave the TCG market entirely before he stops "pumping and dumping" MTG
They would do that if it genuinely wasn't still profitable for them.
maybe big spender , completed his whole collection; by owning every single card in legacy format. now he doesn't need to buy anymore. so maybe thats why?
Lol yes people are buying stuff from big box stores instead of local shops. Or even amazon. They dont care
He has to service his pateron customers.
To be fair, they've also severly limited their buying of Yugioh in the last few months. Regardless T&T are the last place I would order singles, their conditioning is never correct and they're often higher on prices. Sure sometimes they ship you foils instead of normal copies by accident but I was burned on Near mint cards actually being MP twice so I avoid them.
Thank you I was looking for this comment. TNT was a failure for years and this seems more like a compounding of their own internal issues
been watching our man go over these for years and it's the first time I tell myself: "he is pissed". hug to a brother. life is interesting.
I'm neck deep in P3K and they're killing that shit man. I hear you.
You could sell it while it's still got value then? They've done a handful of reprints just to add some fake value to master sets.
L5R has returned in my area I believe this will be the nail in wotc. A card game that is no longer made is being played at one of lgs's i play and buy at that a scary thought. 10 to 20 former magic players playing a dead game.
It has? The LCG or the older TCG?
L5R was the better game
The surge foil reprint is a terrible idea but so was reprinting a bunch of cards in a standard set immediately after reprinting them in Commander Masters, further lowering the value of Commander Masters whilst it's still on the shelves. It's utter incompetence.
It's a feature not incompetence. There is no reserve list, the whole point is to keep printing drugs.
@user-pq8on8bx9g as you watched a video on a channel called Alpha Investments, about treating TCG's as investments. A bit hypocritical.
It's called a collectible card game you dolt. That's how it was created. When a company is selling these products for overinflated values then reprints the hell out of the money cards destroying the values, what do you think will happen? Beat it dork@@user-pq8on8bx9g
@@user-pq8on8bx9gLol at how little happiness you have available to you in life
I feel like wilds had better reprints than commander masters lol
This reminds me of that cartoon Recess where TJ got all the mon stickers thinking he was rich, only for the next day they were worthless and everyone was on the next fad.
That whomped.
Ajimbo
@@dogdriver70 "Economics of Recess".
@MidnightClubCountry I love how those are worthless earlier in the episode. 😂
Amazed people even buy magic from them at all 😂
Right, I know I've had nothing but negative experiences with. Haven't purchased for them in nearly a decade due to this.
This was my first thought. I've not bought anything from them myself. But that's only because I've heard nothing but bad from them to where I have absolutely 0 interest in shopping from them.
I bought from them last in 2010, they would always get my order wrong so I never again brought from them since. They seem to get a lot of Pokemon business from what I can tell at Pokémon regionals I went to this year.
You say a few times that this is one of the worst videos you've done or it's terrible. This is some vintage Rudy greatness. Thanks for staying the course. Appreciate you.
This is a great opportunity to teach your friends economics. This is exactly what the US Federal Reserve has been doing with our dollar. They are literally “reprinting” your hard work.
that's a good analogy " you can't keep playing Whack a mole cause now you're out of Moles to Whack!"
Amazing video, stay to the end people! He says it's his worst video in years, I've watched it 10 times.
I only play Magic Arena, i ain't ever playing paper unless it's whit friends whit old products we can afford.
I've sold quite a large portion of my collection to Troll and Toad over the years.
Congrats on getting into the grading business 🎉 and I agree, why would you buy any singles at this point? It’s all re-printed into oblivion.
This is crazy..i used to buy from T&T during ebay's peak day. I got my revised dual lands from them & i always thought they're the "last bastion" interms of buying & selling singles.
Que Rudy buying like crazy while the market is low. We're onto you!
As long as Cox gets that quarterly earnings bump, the rest is irrelevant to him. If he gets canned down the road because of brand dilution or whatever, he'll get a $20+ million golden parachute and buy a couple more houses/yachts and be just fine.
Brilliant conclusion and ending. It made me understand on a much deeper the entire rest of the video!
The money is going elsewhere.... all my colleagues who played MTG have gone to other card games or are simply spending their money on other hobbies (or simply saving it).
And when that gets to the breaking point due to all the various problems already mentioned, it simply breaks the ecosystem where eventually you're left with no stores, no players, and no new influx of people wanting to get into the game.
Damn... Rudy's pissed. Quote of the year "and if everybody is whacked! NOBODY GETS OFF!".
Mtg chased set collectors away many years ago with many of the same practices being used today, and none of the game's players cared. Now they are chasing power collectors away. I am pretty confident that the game's players don't care, because they are being chased away by brand new $50.00 cards currently legal in standard. Hasbro forced wotc to kill itself for hasbros greed.
MTG needs to focus more on making NEW products that consumers want, instead of just reprinting
Sign of a dying company
was lord of the rings a reprint set?
Wotc needs to stop putting out products so the cards actually have time to hangout.
They are making way too much new products, so many that by the time they have been realeased for a week the consumers have already moved to planning around the next one coming in another couple of weeks. It is insane.
11:36 Wizards you are pissing Rudy off!!! 😡
I love MTG so much but I just can't do it anymore.. I want the old days back god damnit..
I'm still buying single for my commanders from time to time, but I'm more interested about Lorcana restock than magic spoilers nowaday.
Troll and Toad, the shop nobody wanted to trade their cards with 25 years ago because of their terrible pricing
For real. Troll and Toad has always been ass.
Yeah. Not only terrible pricing, but have you seen the cards they grade as Mint / Near Mint?? Their grades and conditions are _horrible_. I quit doing business with them years ago.
I never thought I would see the day that magic the gathering wasn't the most reliable card game.
Wasn't one of the standards to compare other card games too.
wizards reprint-policy is the only reason I am currently spending money on a non-rotating format, pioneer. I know that if some essential cards become expensive to the point where its harming the format they will get reprinted and that will be healthy. I quit playing Legacy and sold all my reserve listed stuff because the reserve list harms the game. It's only good for speculators who haven't discovered the stock market.
this is peak deranged rudy in the thumbnail. this is gonna be good
I’m curious what people want. I collect and play very frequently.
I play with people that love that reprints are finally making cards affordable for them.
I have friends who have collected for years and are selling because of those very same reprints.
I really need to start selling off my non reserved list cards
@@RazzleDazzle23 nah I’ve got plenty of stuff still worth a chunk of change
This is one of the best videos Rudy's ever made. Raw, Honest and all over the place. Love it! 😂
I'll be sending my textured Jeweled Lotus in! I'll gladly support you, Rudy. I just wish I knew you were based out of Jacksonville while I lived in Kingsland, GA. 😅
NNNGAAAAAME PIECES! But yea, nothing can hold value any more because it becomes “reprint equity” to sell packs. See: Ragavan, Atraxa, Jeweled Lotus, Doubling Season, etc.
These are the signs that magic is collapsing, not people speculating on the internet.
I bought almost all my Alpha/Beta from Troll or AnyCraze back in the 90s. I feel for these guys, but also realize that magic needs to die.
Commander is NOT magic, and it is almost all Wizards wants and it is what has destroyed the "player" side. Now that the "collector" side has collapsed, the burden has shifted to the player side and players have rejected wizards offerings.
It's not surprising that the player side has fallen off. They're both reprinting too much and collapsing any potential collector value while simultaneously jacking up the prices of new products. Hasbro has effectively put MTG into a lose-lose situation.
Commander is what WOTC supports because it organically became the largest format. Players chose to play commander over other formats and so WOTC made changes to profit from that shift. It wasn’t the other way around. If you don’t agree then it’s just you happen to fall in the minority of what formats are popular right now.
You all make these claims based on your own opinion and bias and have no data/stats to base any of these assertions on.
More than one card game can exists. Popularity will wain and wax.
@@patmacrotch5611that's really what the take away is I have 10 60 card decks but when my friends get together they all wanna play commander. Its just fun having your commander on the field knowing he can't just die , it is what it is tbh . 🤷
Personally I think it's a balance 60 card format is fun ur building around a theme and some general counters in addition with 20 hp it's hard to get some bs rolling if u die while ur still setting up .
FNM used to be 5-6 (or more) teenagers going to the card shop, buying boosters and maybe splurging on Legends or Antiquities boosters to go with about $20 worth of lesser priced boosters, then going to a friend's house to play past midnight in group games. Casual group games were what really made MTG.
All the money and competition in MTG does not make for pure fun.
It was organic.
No amount of effort by Wizards other than drowning will bring back MTG's glory days.
I don't know if you know this but players were enjoying EDH before wizards tried to corner that market. It's literally the only format I play and I play it weekly.
The last 30 seconds of this video is chaotic gold
lorcana sold out everywhere and rudy refuses to talk about it cause he's got no vested interest in it lolol
Wild man Rudy, live from 3rd floor basement. Love it.
O well more videos on sorcery and other games.
Not trying you grading service but I will occasionally watch your videos
Wizards of the Coast earned this ending.
Totally intentional. They'd rather profit than have the secondary market make a dime. It's short-term thinking, but the shareholders are gonna love Q4!🤑
It just confirms Hasbro is strategically moving to eliminate LGS’s and the secondary market from a position where they might compete with Hasbro’s bottom line. It certainly explains WOTC’s inventory dump on Amazon and other partnerships with large big box retailers (and the rollout of MTG Arena). Hasbro doesn’t want anyone other than Hasbro itself to make money off Hasbro products. I wouldn’t be surprised if Hasbro is tied up in VC funds, and as soon as they’ve extracted all the value they can out of WotC, they’ll spin it off, leaving WotC with a mountain of debt and a brand in tatters.
"If everybody's whacked, then nobody gets off!"
Hasbro destroyed our childhoods the day they bought WOTC.
Rudy kind of looks like Toad from Super Mario in the thumbnail on this vid 🍄
Rudy just tried to buy a shirt no more large. I fwy so ima support
Remember folks, at one time WoTC had Pokeman, Star Wars, and a straight up murdered Harry Potter tcg....
My old man still has a full set of WOTC Harry Potter cards. 😂
Last time I bought a magic product was a throne of Eldraine…
Last set I collected was the complete strixhaven, Japanese collection. Magic is dead.. Good thing you moved to LEGO, you know they won’t sell out, never publicly traded, not a Fortune 500, LEGO has been my standard for 22 years now.. LEGO Castle System is the purchases..
A true masterpiece of a video,
The beginning of the _actual_ end for Magic?
Yep it's only going to get worse from here on out
On the contrary, this was an AMAZING video.. 😂🤣
Thank you Hasbro for defecating on the game, the players and the stores. As long as you make money for your shareholders the world is good?!
You're the best Mr Wizard 😉❤️🔥
The unstated idea years ago when Hasbro took over and gave the imperative to WoTC to double sales was to bump the stock price to prime for a takeover and give the existing C-suite a nice cushion on sale.
They've really shit the bed for everyone.
WHY don’t 1000’s of MTG collectors BLAST Hasbro HQ with scathing letters addressed to the CEO? Send a LOUD message. Rudy, post the address and proofread every letter 😂 But seriously.
"No card is safe, no format stable
As reprint sets destroy your singles
Old man rudy told you so
Reserved list to the moon"
premium foils pack fresh pringles
As a fan and supporter of FAB. I hate that I could buy the Professor but not a Rudy deck. I had to watch you burn the cards. It's more likely that LSS will read this. We are still waiting on PVE. Maybe a Rudy deck for it?
The main reason I haven't gotten Round the table is because I can't stand "the professor", throw in a cold foil Rudy, I would have gotten 2 boxes. Other than that, FaB fuckin rules.
Yup, stopped buying magic this year, went huge into flesh and blood and am so happy i did
i'd like to think WotC's downfall started when they introduced Mutate and Companion. It was one thing that they had "Bestow" but at least that was comprehensible. They need "money cards" for most every set that can't just be "reprints" and i'm still debating if Jeweled Lotus was one of those things some players chased after, some players quite MTG. The one ring is one thing, but Orcish Bowmasters and Thassa's Oracle are ruining the commander format while blue keeps getting more ways to embody "fun police" when players would rather play a different TCG because it's more fun.
MTG died in Eldraine when they started printing Yugioh card variations where every card has 10 versions and none of them feel important anymore. That was the first major sign Wizards was cashing out on people.
I called it as soon as that set came out and I’ve never been more right about something in my life.
You have a point, though i'm continually surprised that Kenrith the returned king is the top competitive deck option for competitive commander. @@ImSquiggs
Almost 80% at least of our local commander scene (100+ people) are playing proxies from mtgprint or other places like that for any card over $10... just weekly buying groups to negate shipping etc. And the truth is that who cares? People just want to play... and like you just said, our local game stores have just stopped buying cards and they never have any singles... its either give TCGplayer too much money, or just play with high end proxies.
Rudy nice finished! 😂😂
BIG restock. shirts are so nice
The ending of this video was epic😂
BOOBY TRAP from Tempest! I'm telling you! Good card on TCG player in NM!
1.2k views 13 minutes ago.
TNT end all Taco purchasing!!! OMG!!! I'm sooo hungry!!
I'm so annoyed they reprinted Surge Foil chase LOTR cards... Is it even legal to sell a product to consumers based on rarity, and then completely desecrate those rarity pull rates after 4 months? Stores holding normal collector boxes will lose money, collectors lose money, LOTR fans who dont even play magic lose money... Something tells me they've gone too far this time
Rudy is slowly turning into Oliver Platt
Chicago MED Oliver Platt or The Three Musketeers Oliver Platt ?
@@ThePenitentSquirrel Ready to Rumble Oliver Platt
@@tartuffethespry My god lmao
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The issue is less about reprints IMO. The problem lies in how bad WOTC has screwed over the standard format. It has been clear that Wizards have been at war with the secondary market. These things will end up spelling the end of the game if not a new dark age.
Yea man I’m thinking about selling my whole collection and moving into Pokémon tbh.
I told you this couple months ago Prince scenario changes name to symbol get his rights of his songs all back and that lasted almost 7 or 8 years I think it was
I mean I wish I had an argument but I agree. Buying standard boxes is fun but I’ve cut way back due to lack of value
I graciously bowed out a while ago yea I’m sitting on product but I haven’t bought anything but singles I needed because it’s utterly outrageous to even get packs unless you want to pay an inflated price at Target or whenever Amazon wants to ship my order, there’s not many LG’s around here I’d rather take the extra 30 mins drive to Rudy’s spot than goto half the others and then the other spots are not open after 6pm half the time…. It sucks
Great video ❤😂
Even with the news of printing more a Lorcana card like Rapunzel Gifted with Healing is going for over $50. I don't know if it's so much Magic reprinting as much as people are starting to discover there are games that are more fun to play. Not sure how Magic becomes a fun game for everyone instead of playing because you have purchased too many cards to quit.
Seems like Wizards likes to self-destruct the value of the cards. They just love to screw over the Distributors, the LGS, and the Players. They want it both ways where the charge extremely high prices for certain boxes from sets and then reprint everything into the ground where the value of cards tank. Why should players pay these high prices for collector boxes etc to get valueless cards? I will wait awhile to buy the singles and or proxies I want. SCREW Cocks and Williams who are ruining the collectability of the game. I will continue to play Commander at our kitchen table. Thank you for the video Rudy.
I’m just wondering when people holding stock will file a class action suit. The have a fiduciary responsibility not to poison the well of the consumer base. Short term gains for long term losses?
3:17 wtf rudy did you get a nose piercing or what? this rudy cinematic universe is only getting weirder ( o.o)
I've seen Rudy with a small little stud nose ring, that looks like the back of a MTG card.
PCG!!! Hey rudy, just check the pcg pop report, you should be adding other TCGs to your coverage e.g. Dragonball number 4 on the pop report, interestingly I don't see any one piece! Also I'm seeing the numbers grow, looking forward to my slab i sent in to see what the quality in person is like!
As someone who doesnt invest in cards or packs, it still kinda blows cuz good cards are still expensive. I think there is a good case to just start buying proxies. They could even have better art. I've held my Unlimited cards for nearly 30 years and the price never went up. While the alphas/betas were expensive back then and have done about 10x over the same time period.
This is a key point, and I like using capenna for this comparison, a set that is objectively low value, but if your goal was just to accumulate the tri lands, as many as you could, it'd be very expensive. It's hard to justify spending hundreds on a mana base you could proxy for a fraction of that.
one of the most messy vids iv seen you make in a while and i loved every sec of it lol
It's a lot like Nintendo "embracing" their retro games over the past 5 years or so. No company wants people to make more money on the secondary market off their property, than what they make from selling wholesale. Wotc doesn't care about product investors, and they don't really need to.
Rudy when can I start submitting my boxed Lego sets, to your grading company?
Just keep printing! What could go wrong? Sounds like our government... These idiots just keep ruining everything.
Personally, since I have a significant income, I'd be fine if games priced out people that can't afford 150 USD cards. I see no reason why the market should allow others to get rares under 100 - 150 USD each. I say we make all card games premium products. If we let cards get to say, 20 per card we are just wasting our time. I agree with you 100%, price out players who aren't willing to invest.
Wasn't aware most players need a foil etched alternate full art whatever. If you can't see there's a balance I can't help you understand.
Much better the whole game collapses and then no one can play. Then we'll all be equally screwed just like you'd prefer.
Games are luxury items. MTG is a game, ergo prices do not need to be cheap. You also act like the majority of cards cost a fortune when that's just untrue. There are plenty of cheaper options that play just fine. Starter decks and jumpstart won't win tournaments, but if anyone wants to just jump right into tourneys then they should expect it to cost them.
@@Mirthful_Midoritourneys are not the primary driver of prices these days. Commander is the center of the game
Bingo
Rudy’s blood pressure through the roof this video🤣
The problem is you have a huge disconnect between those who play the game and those who use it as an investment. One side wants to keep the other side from winning. You have the investors who want every single card to cost 80+ dollars for a play set and then you have the other side that wants every card to be 0.25.
If stores stop carrying MTG, everyone loses. Players lose because they have nowhere to play the game they love. Investors lose because an irrelevant IP is a worthless asset.
It's also a compounding problem where Wotc is still selling their product as a "premium" product, where there is little to no value unless you hit a chase card (that quickly loses its value to a reprint in months, not years.) the prices are set as if these are collector cards and they aren't anymore.
If they want cheap cards, the boxes have to be less expensive. If they want premium prices for boxes, they can't have everything be a cheap game piece. They want the best of both worlds and it's just not working.
All those wanting cheap game pieces aren't spending hundreds of dollars on collector boxes. Collectors aren't buying cause nothing is worth anything. It'll eventually hit a breaking point.
lol, i am both, happy to sell rares single cards for 10 to 80 $, and happy to buy rares, uncommon, common for less than a dollar, or big bundle for around 10$ for 100 cards
At some points it's crazy, selling one card at 35$, and buying 500 or more than 1000 cards for that budget of one edition, one clean bundle with full sets of commons cards, uncommon and few rares.
it's so much nicer to collect and play. i don't care about overpowered over expensive cards, unless i got it in a booster and can sell it
@@culturegeekgaming2390 hey I'm happy for you if you're buying and selling. Some people just aren't happy buying hundreds of dollars worth of boxes and selling one 40 dollar card they get from it to buy more singles 😂
It's a lot of things. The card sets are thematic but utterly bankrupt in terms of doing anything interesting. They attempted to push the games limits through some of the sets like Ikoria and war of the spark. Heck, the two were different directions on pushing things (Use weird evolution mechanics and make planeswalkers mainstream). However, they kind of destroyed themselves by getting rid of block sets which forced them to have some rails on what they are doing each year.
It's like the cereal industry and selling sugary cereal to kids with vitamins in it to feint being healthy. It's super stimulating and might get some people into eating it just because it is sweet, but once someone gets used to the sweetness it just becomes as bland as oatmeal after a while. This is especially true when everyone also tries to be super over stimulating and throwing tons of sugar into their own foods.