Why has Lok Sabha expelled Mahua Moitra? Ethics panel report, ‘kangaroo court’ justice, BJP U-turn
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Trinamool Congress member Mahua Moitra, among the most vocal Opposition MPs, was expelled from the Lok Sabha Friday over ‘cash-for-query’ allegations. In Ep 1364 of Cut The Clutter, Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta explains the allegations against her, how they came to light, and past examples of MPs facing action over ethics-related issues.
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2:55 - BJP MP Nishikant Dubey wrote to LS Speaker on 15 Oct complaining about TMC’s Mahua Moitra
7:45 - Hiranandani said in affidavit that Moitra shared with him her Parliamentary portal ID, password
12:35 - Ethics panel sought information from MHA, MEA & MeitY
15:35 - Ethics panel cited TV interview to say Moitra ‘accepted that Hiranandani gave her gifts’
20:05 - RJD MP was suspended from 30 LS sittings for misusing parliamentary privilege
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Watch Former Lok Sabha Secretary General PDT Achary and ThePrint's DK Singh & Sourav Roy Barman conversation here: • TMC MP Mahua Moitra’s ...
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@@cmkar1013Lllllllllllll 13:16
It is disgusting, how this type of BAZZZZAARU high society caallll girllllll found their way to Parllliamenttt, those who can sell anything for bag perfume and others
Quantum of punishment can be debated, but it is foolish to defend her wrongdoing. Mahua Moitra admitted to sharing passwords with a private entity (not her secretary). There is evidence of multi-country access. Hira Nandani is a competitor to Adani. Clearly, Hira Nandani had a beef with Adani. Access to Parliamentary servers is not her personal property. Even employees cannot give their relatives access to their company property. Secondly, we had a situation in the past where terrorists entered the parliament through the brand power of the "ambassador" vehicle. Should we be so lax about national security?
Yes she is not naive to share the password with a business person, even if he is a friend.
But main problem was how they behaved in the ethics committee. How can a recommendation be given without asking any questions from a person who has said that she has taken money from her?
He should have given proof that he has given money in exchange for questions being asked and not as a friend/boy friend//or whatever the relationship is.
Also, why will someone ask a businessman to pay/expend to renovate her government building?
Hiranandani should have been questioned and after that they could have given the same recommendation.
Man you bot or something? I saw this same commnet in some other video as well.
@@BharatThatIsIndia She admitted taking "gifts". Whether it constitutes "cash for query" is for the courts to decide. I'll merely go with facts: 1) Hiranandani is an Adani competitor. He benefits from bad press to Adani. 2) Her expulsion is in line with the precedent set by UPA with the 2005 "Cash for query" case.
The "should" and "would" are personal opinions.
Personally, I do not think she should have been expelled. A DISCREDITED critic is better than an EXPELLED one. It is highly unlikely that it's a thoughtless, overconfident decision from Modi. I think it's about sending out a message that you cannot corner the government on Adani. Quite frankly, I think it's fine. Every political party cozies up to Corporates. Without the Ambani and the NSE 200s, we would have been in a state of civil war. However, the Adani tirade is a deliberate attempt to obfuscate a usual G2B dealing to create unrest against the Govt. It did not cost Modi any election, but it cost us Green Revolution 2.0 (farm laws). I am from Maha, and I can vouch for their importance, esp for vegetables. Also, we live in an era of echo chambers - the Left will overlook her "fallacies", while the right ecosystem will latch on to these very "fallacies". Mahua never really captured the admiration of centrists. It's not enough to deviate most of the centrists from Modi, esp not with the Ram Mandir inauguration coming up.
These are my views.
@@sleepingduty2987 You saw a similar comment (not exact) in DK Singh's Political Adda video. Both videos are on the same topic. Hence, I retained the same argument here with newer nuances of the 2005 MP expulsion. It's a free-speech country.
of course so far it is.@@sankalp6872
She literally admitting she shared login details
...but her argument is she did nothing wrong and playing victim card😂😂😂
there is no rule that prevents sharing MP login details. Everyone who works at the MP's office will know the login details of NIC website. IT Act doesn't apply to this matter either.
@@gormint3997oh dear intellectual there's literally a form where u sign stating that the password wouldn't be shared and kept confidential, u think u r only the smartass here 😂😂😂
She is a woman....awwww...send her to a woman's prison then
@@gormint3997is it ,sharing login credentials is not criminal offence under it act?
What if she is shared confidential matter or some one put malware in the system
U must be relative of moira mitra😊
Gormit there is a rule gawar. Mp have to sign a form keepin all this a secret. Go see mp heena gavit speech
Now she can play victim card officially 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
The sad part is even after incriminating evidence has been found against her regarding this scam. She seems to be in complete denial and displays victim card politics through extreme behaviour..
Sanghi theetam 💩
@@Ragnar638 sickular 💩
Even women discrimination card was brought in by a fellow MP from the same party as her.
@@Ragnar638barbarian
I think the way she acted bringing the bags etc into the ethics committee meeting etc suggests she has some serious mental problems.
Lets understand this way, if an officer of Indian Armed forces found guilty of espionage and treachery. The officer is expelled 1st then proceedings begin against the accused. A parliamentarian who enjoys priveleges, immunity must be learned enough to know ethical conduct of misusing credentials which can lead to espionage and endangering national security. SHE IS A WILFUL TRAITOR, AND SHE IS PROUD OF IT. Period.
If it's treachery to question the government connections with adani and clear case of crony capitalism than all but andhbhakts must be traitors which fits pretty well with andhbhakt world view.
👍
India is not ruled by army
a cancer growing in our home.
So true. Sharing login details is such a danger to the country.
We don't even share share details of our gadgets with anyone, not of our friends , however close they may be.
I don't understand why these ""educated/ experienced" journalists try to justify unjustifiable? Moitra herself has admitted to the crime. Rest of the issues are irrelavent.
and when they loose they blame evms they think common man is a fool
Coupta Ji's reputation as a journalist precedes him!!
@@anilblobo yes he exposed himself in 2019
Whatever comes of this situation atleast common man of india is now aware of all the luxury brands in world 🤣
That the fancy dress competitor wears .......😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The glasses she was wearing yesterday are atleast $400!
New luxury (b)rand Mahua
@@kubssharma why don't u list the price if garments and accessories if Modi too and who pays for it. She earned and buys what itches u. U mirond can't answer questions but talk nonsense
@@hetaldesai5207 if u are not able to answer you people rant and talk nonsense is that the idealogy teaches now I know the type mentality ur group has 😐😐😐😐😐😐😐
She is a culprit
Just shocking how Shekhar Gupta is defending the wrongdoings of Mauha Moitra. Does Shekhar Gupta allow his employees to share their login credentials and write reports on their behalf? Shameful man.
He is not defending her. He is husy saying facts. How a normal person with common sense can she how the proceedings went, without giving the proper medium for the accused to defend themselves. You sound you lack that commonnsense. Well what can we say, common sense is very rarely found these days.
He is giving a neutral opinion, just laying out facts as a true journalist should.
@@tjkarna2998 yes he did don't sugarcoat MrGupta.
He is currupt biased journo who's org is paid by anti india Soros. His bias is obvious. He isn't neutral.
there was no random allegations. There is online trail to prove her acc was accessed 42 times in Dubai, rest times in uk, usa, nepal and simultaneously login in different cities of India. When her passport details show she was never in these countries when the login happened. She lied she didn't know hiranandani or shared passwrd or took gifts. She only admitted after hiranandani admitted his crimes and submitted affidavit. It's then this currupt mahua admitted to knowin him and sharing passwrd and askin question on his behalf. Every mp has to sign form u will not share ur login credentials or ask questions based on others agenda or paid question. She took oath and violated it. She is currupt person who sells herself and nation for a Gucci bag. She shud be in jail. Shame on her
Exactly!
Why was she caught so fast? That is the problem our "journalists" are asking
You have a problem if things are slow, you have a problem if it’s fast 🤦🏾♂️
So called journalists
except she was just accused with random allegations. None of the legally correct accusations they brought upon her was proven by them. They didn't keep a scope for cross-examination. Did witch-hunting and expelled her.
@@user-bw8yn3zr1smaybe we need to see the fair points on both sides. There WAS wrongdoing on Ms. Moitra's part, she even went on to admit that herself, BUT the point here is not that, it's that she didn't get a fair trial, and the committee acted in a partisan manner. It wasn't a witch hunt, but not a fair trial either. She should have been expelled (if found guilty) only after consensus with the opposition. Parliament should have a high bar for expulsion or else, expulsion may used for targeting of opposition, and may happen to anyone's team (saffron team, blue team, green team, etc....)
User there was no random allegations. There is online trail to prove her acc was accessed 42 times in Dubai, rest times in uk, usa, nepal and simultaneously login in different cities of India. When her passport details show she was never in these countries when the login happened. She lied she didn't know hiranandani or shared passwrd or took gifts. She only admitted after hiranandani admitted his crimes and submitted affidavit. It's then this currupt mahua admitted to knowin him and sharing passwrd and askin question on his behalf. Every mp has to sign form u will not share ur login credentials or ask questions based on others agenda or paid question. She took oath and violated it. She is currupt person who sells herself and nation for a Gucci bag. She shud be in jail. Shame on her
I work with MNC if I share my login password my company would fire me..
They would discipline me if I left my cube keeping my laptop unlocked..
Bharat is not a profit making corporate entity answerable to only a few shareholders. And an MP is not an employee of Bharat Sarkar. I am sorry for your simplistic analogies.
@@pushpindersingh1819do behave naive and try to make opposite meaning of what I said . Bharat is answerable to 140 crore Indians. So if small Corp is so strict Bharat sarkar has to be a million times more strict about sharing the passwords small profit making Corp is so strict about sharing passwords ..
@@pushpindersingh1819 It is an even greater offense, in fact a matter of national security. So expelling her is the least that needs to be done.
I think the actions in both cases(Moitra and 2005) were correct and apt. Opposition parties will retaliate like this only(earlier it was the BJP and now it is the present opposition). It is because, till now we as a country have not learned how to accept mistakes.
You can't expect more from Shekar Gupta. He is a chamcha for all wrong doers.
Its simply amazing how even seasoned journalist / editors in the Indian Press don't want to evaluate the facts & merits of the case in question as a reasonable observer...A committee conducts an inquiry to validate facts, it is not a court where people get to cross question witnesses etc.. She has accepted giving the password.. there is clear evidence of login from outside India.. The questions are all one-sided & loaded .... Its an open and shut case of ethics violation attracting immediate dismissal even in a private enterprise
Lol… Seasoned… he may be BUT expecting these snakes to evaluate on facts… paleeeez … don’t expect that!
😂😂everyone is an expert these days on ethics committee!!
❤ IT EXPERT ... This Act is wrong ...however the Investigation and Punishment is highly SELECTIVE therefore BIASED and POLITICALLY MOTIVATED
@@jhgftu4736as of selective , opposition should find out which bjp leaders have shared passwords as well..
And that doesn’t mean she should not be rusticated
Everyone should be rusticated
And so much for BJP's U turn on ethics 😊
Shekarji, All the examples are fine. You know in decent ethical corporate companies if you share your email passwords (anyone) you are terminated without any notice immediately.This is Loksabha so there can’t be no compromise. I think the opposition is very stupid defending such compromises.
Might have been influenced and fell to her trap in the manner Dansh Ali Mamta, Mamata proxy banarbee or some body...
Yes. It is considered an ethical issue
Shekhar Gupta is a Kongi Agent... he can never be Neutral ..Shekhar is fucked up version of Rajdeep Sardesai :)
Mahua Moitra will not share her email ID password or her phone password to Darshan Hiranandani.
She only shared this password because she thought national security was a joke, less important than her email or phone. 🤬🤬🤬
National security will very soon be applied to your online comments also. Tread carefully my friend.
Push find better excuse to defend currupt mahua
Mahua's defense strategy is simple - shout at a top of her voice and try to scare away people, and make common man believe she is a 'bechaari' and 'sati savitri' of Indian politics ..
I faintly remember good old days when journalists were the ones that discovered misconduct of politicians and published investigative reports informing the public on scams and then built pressure on the law enforcement and judiciary to act... And now we have reached a point where editors complaint why the speed of enquiry is so fast even in open and shut cases ??? Sad.. 🤐
Shekhar Guptaji's argument of speed in this case is bordering stupidity and bias. This government has been implementing everything at a super speed - one such example is building of number of new airports in 9 years, equal to what was built during 65 years since our independence. Guptaji is unable to accept anything this government does and hence finds weak arguments of speed, etc, to satisfy himself and justify the sidestepping of Moitra's confessed criminality.
This is the problem of bhakts. They cannot see reason. I don't think he said maitra is innocent. He was pointing out the unusual rapid action taken against a vocal opposition.
Mr. Gupta vehemently supported the farmer's bill. Do you know that? You guys can't listen a single criticism against bjp. Wah re democracy.
@@sb3987 If he accepts that she is not innocent then quick action should be applauded No?? Or you are only interested in calling a fellow citizen "bhakt" for pointing out a visible bias of editors you commie stooge??
Journalists used to question govt as well in past. Now all are doing bhajan sitting on their lap.
@@sb3987I see you valid point but I think you should not stoop to the level of ad-homeinem attacks and name calling. Those willing to listen have took your point. Although there was some evidence of wrongdoing on Ms. Moitra's part, the committee DID act in a partisan manner, and while the BJP may say they follow the "precedent" set by the Congress in this. They themselves opposed it in 2005 and it's hypocritical considering they're supposed to be the "party with a difference". I totally agree that MR. Gupta is very honest and sticks to his principles. He has no love lost for BJP, but doesn't hide his face when it comes to support the BJP for the right cause (farm bills, labour codes, 370, etc..)
If any poor or middle class person had done something very basic and less heinous, they would have been behind bars ( no bail granted ). While this "corrupt, badtameez" politician has got away so lightly.
Mahua - a disgrace to Indian politics.
There was good reason and solid evidence to kick her out and the Ethics committee carried out their job. Sometimes the journalists and opposition should step back and not pounce on everything the BJP does. Its a shame how people are jumping to her defense.
@@Jun_kidit's not her personal password lok sabha password entire India's decision making and governance are in that account, have you ever worked for any corporate password sharing can lead to multiple law suits
@Jun_kid Cash for query is difficult one to prove. As for as giving login credentials, she has publicly admitted using Darshan to add questions. It is proven beyond doubt that she took luxury items from Darshan. She also thrown tantrums without answering questions straight.
Shekhar seems to have taken the role of Mahua’s lawyer here - reading out the committee’s report with a tone of disapproval and pointing out past precedents of inaction or slow action as a justification against the speedy and decisive action in the current case. Shekhar took a similar approach when Chidambaram was arrested with an entire episode of “cut the clutter” spent on portraying it as a revenge by Amit Shah because he was arrested when Chidambaram was home minister. In that instance as well, the facts of the case and corruption charges on Chidambaram which he should have been declutterring were overlooked as was the fact that Chidambaram was arrested on corruption charge whereas Amit Shah on a terrorist encounter killing charge.
He is one of those disgruntled anti-Modi journos, trying to appear neutral, but it comes through clearly that he is waiting eagerly for the day Modi will be out and the mice can be at play.
You were expecting him to vomit in your favour like your entrenched Godi media.
@@kvchellappa1well said
@@SumitPalTube so is he vomiting in your favour now as chamcha media usually do
@@SumitPalTubehe always shows he is fair journalist...taking a moral high ground... if he can admit he is similar to godi media... as he used to sit in congress godi...and stop giving sermons to others
One wonders why one should not just say - who cares, one bad person less, vendetta or otherwise?
It is amazing how this Cut-The-Clutter makes a big deal of the speed at which this has proceeded. There is not much to this case. The party is not denying that she gave her account information. The party does admit that she did take gifts. The party, Hiranandani, that has filed a sworn affidavit as to the expectations he had and why he cultivated Mootra. Good luck trying to get this reversed in any court. Mootra went on TV and said she had done everything that has been alleged. Now as for money trail or anything else it is really not that relevant. At the end of the day even without a quid-pro-quo you cannot hand over your parliamentary privileges to a Business Entity.
Why is Shekhar making a comparison of such events in the past? Who CARES!!! Mootra is guilty as charged. The right thing has been done.
Mootra is projected as a firebrand, she is none of that. She is obnoxious, rude and uncouth.
This entire case tells me something, MOOTRA is also STUPID!!! How stupid should you be this day and age to give out your login to a business entity and have them log in from all over the world simultaneously and enter questions on your behalf, and presume there would be no consequences to pay. Be loud, uncouth, and rude and make enemies everywhere.
A comment straight out of gomootra party.
@@tanmaychatterjee4228better than the anti national TMC and Leftist parties. By the way how is your Partho Chatterjee 😅😅😅
@@tanmaychatterjee4228Your only contribution is labourers, Beggars and Islamic Jihadis 😂😂😂
@@tanmaychatterjee4228 come on over and I will spare some for you. Drinking it will give you the proper guan.
Tanmay camel mootra party barking for mahua mootra 🤣🤣🤣 go drink some camel mootra like momo sed in churan
Glad this uncouth vile corrupt woman is out of our parliament. CBI inquiry against her must be expedited & put behind bars for good.
❤ IT EXPERT ... This Act is wrong ...however the Investigation and Punishment is highly SELECTIVE therefore BIASED and POLITICALLY MOTIVATED
@@jhgftu4736boy ur every where hmm?
But if u feel she is innocent should not be punished
Put ur emplee id and password on social media let’s see how ur company reacts
@@JasKaur-vq7lqthanks for confirming that Bharat Sarkar is a corporate business entity working for some shareholders profit motive and not any public entity answerable to the people of India. What is the IP or secret of Bharat Business has been exposed by this act?
@@pushpindersingh1819 do you have any clue about how cyber threats & malware work? Our whole government could have been paralysed
@@pushpindersingh1819do u know once Mukesh Ambani said that Khangress is in his pocket
Kangaroo court ?
Why so ?
This lady ( with a Gucci hand bag in hand and those mis match overgrown shades ) had the backing of rich people and representing one of the downtrodden parts of West Bengal .
Now playing victim card in public after running away from the ethics committee and displaying her silly tongue 👅 to media and in full view .
Good riddance - Drama Queen and ex VP - J.P. Morgan here in London ( which means nothing really !! ) .
And a chaiwallah spending lakhs on costumes is fine ?
ex VP exactly means why she can afford the Gucci bag.
@@vivek1raja😂 focus on the topic. Two wrongs don’t make it right.
@@vivek1raja utter rubbish comparison .. get Your facts sorted immediately without any blinkers .
@@srikantpadma3573 What’s two wrongs ? Just this woman only - arrogant and ought to be thrown to the wolves !
Representative of a downtrodden Nadia district in the Lok Sabha displaying such an attitude ought to be dismissed off the seat .
Sekhar jee tries his best to explain so that this NOT a big deal-
1) Things move fast - Things move at speed (or slow) as ruled by Govt(at the time).It does not matter who is in Govt. I can give 1000 examples of INC rule where decisions were fast/slow
2) This was done earlier(during 2005, or later)- so, not a big deal now
We all are humans, cannot hide our preferences(likes/dislikes)-whether a journalist/politician/anyone
Could you please give that 1000 example please.......
BTW WhatsApp is an app not a university 😂😂😂😂😂😂
What you expect when Mr Gupta himself had lied many times, But Genius of liberandu to keep on twisting, Just remember Ravish recently said Shivraj defeated Modi,, but this twist are not useful anymore, leftist has become so much dishonest that even if they some short of truth no one is intereste.
and this comment of yours proves your last line that you just cannot see a case with impartiality and have to confirm your own bias by saying that someone else has a bias. Cognitive dissonance it is called, i reckon.
Rightly said… to be frank… these snakes don’t deserve much respect by adding a jee to their names… and it’s not a preference… it’s his job to NOT talk on facts but his own opinion!
@@pandiank3632shut up rice bag
Shekharji do an episode on KHANgress MP Dheeraj Sahu in whose house more than Rs 200 crores cash was found during I.T. raids.
Absolutely she need to be out of there. Also the parliament should bring strict rules. No one other than the member of parliament should have the access to
If a corporate employee shares password he will be dismissed immediately. Period
“We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.”
- Plato
An apt quote for leftists backing Mahua in her wrongdoings. They should see the light.
@@sankalp6872@sankalp6872 u mean pepl can't hav difference of opinion do u know what mentality is that ........ she asked questions and u don't hav answers don't behave as if you pepl know all it is arrogance and ignorance u can answer questions u coward 😂
@@sankalp6872leftist kabhi sudhre ha kya, 2-4 quote mar ke apne aap ko gyani samaghne lagte ha
@@shivmohan2982
Aak Nari, sub pe bhari!
@@mg.f.9023Equal rights Equal fines
Good morning and another great episode SG , just a couple of thoughts. Ms Moitra surely is guilty of being in principle breach of what we could term as morally cloudy, testimonials of people testifying have some weight do they not. Do we want our MPs to imitate this kind of thing? Secondly why is the NRI businessman being let off scot free? His business contracts need to be thoroughly investigated, why are our elected representatives silent here? Not sure if my thoughts resonate, thanks again and great work
Shekhar Guptaji's argument of speed in this case is bordering stupidity and bias. This government has been implementing everything at a super speed - one such example is building of number of new airports in 9 years, equal to what was built during 65 years since our independence. Guptaji is unable to accept anything this government does and hence finds weak arguments of speed, etc, to satisfy himself and justify the sidestepping of Moitra's confessed criminality.
It is shameful to see many of our MPs defending conduct of Ms Mohua Moitra. That’s how they lose credibility. They are guilty of lowering standard of politics in india. Kudos to the Ethics committee for their successful effort to uphold the rules.
have you gone through the report of the Ethics committee? I've gone through it and there is basically no evidence. You can even read the transcripts of the committee meetings. Just bullshit. If you know the truth, you will know why other MPs are defending Moitra
😂😂😂 Ethics committee is under whose control? 😂😂😂
Shekhar Gupta can never be neutral. He seems to be very sad that this foul mouth Mahua is out of the house 😅
Shekhar Gupta is a Kongi Agent... he can never be Neutral ..Shekhar is fucked up version of Rajdeep Sardesai :)
We spend $Bs on security and put our solder's lives on risk, while this woman hands the key to the secrets for a few bucks. This is clearly insane. We need a better IT system that ensures secure access. We should minimally have two factor authentication to ensure physical presence of the user. This is totally unacceptable.
I'm surprised why simple security measures were not put in place like the portal not be accessible from outside of India. For example, Aadhar portal cannot be accessible from outside of India.
❤ IT EXPERT ... This Act is wrong ...however the Investigation and Punishment is highly SELECTIVE therefore BIASED and POLITICALLY MOTIVATED
Two factor authentication won’t work when you have people like Mahua who would handover the device as well
@@SG-hs1fghow will that solve the problem you can just use a VPN
Expulsion is just the beginning. She will be facing jailtime also.
Hirandhani should also be punished for liaison and seeking and obtaining of unethical favors for enriching his business. They should be taken to court and punished as well.
He is a business man . This happens all the time in our country . If you punish Hiranandani all politicians side income by bribe from businessmen will stop . So they will never even lift a finger in him. Not congress not any party
Even all other business men including Adani may be doing such favours in the interest of their business.
This investigation will be done by CBI so even mahua is still not arrested
It's an open and shut case of curruption. National security and flouting of rules. Being a firy speaker or an important opposition speaker does not give you the right to flout rules and takenoney in lieu of asking questions . Not only that the questions were fires from outside the country whatever you are describing is well known and is in public. There is precedence in such cases when 13 mps were expelled
These days Sg isnt even pretending to be unbiased.
I feel the same way😂! I am sure everyone can see that , how he loves to tell the past especially when it’s BJP. Nevertheless he is great journalist and a thinker👍
@@shivysgHe WAS a great journalist. There is a saying that people are generally good and honest, when everything is easygoing for them, until they are put to through acid test, then their core values get exposed. No surprise, SG is getting exposed now that Congress is not in government.
I Still feel he is great in journalism and Great editor in chief. Very good story teller but I guess politics and journalism go hand in hand, that’s why our journalism tends to get tilted one way or the other. At times personal opinions gets mixed with ones profession. Otherwise he is good, that the we are here taking about him.
ONE LOK SABHA MP SAYS "I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO OPERATE A COMPUTER ....... I DO NOT EVEN REMEMBER MY OWN PASSWORD". MR SHEKHAR GUPTA PLEASE SHARE YOUR VIEWS ON THIS.
1) Moitra's side is claiming that that no cash was exchanged. Well, the fact that Hiranandani's Architect did the plans for her renovation, and Hiranandani was doing the renovation, that's bad enough.
2) If it is conclusively proven that cash was indeed exchanged, then she must be prosecuted for corruption, and barred from becoming an MP again.
3) Regarding the gifts vs. cash issue. I think it is clear she received gifts. If Hiranandani claims that he gave the gifts out of pressure, then that's as bad as cash.
Forget the cash. She shared the log in details and it was logged from. Dubai 47 times. That’s is more than enough to put her in jail
thanks law expert.@@joejo2767
@@joejo2767 I can understand your concern about the logins. However I respectfully disagree about the logins being an egregious issue because of two reasons: 1) there are no clear guidelines on who is not allowed to login, and 2) it is common for other people to handle the MP's data entry into the portal. I think it is reasonable to allow MP's to allow others to enter questions on their behalf. However, if they received cash or gifts from people in exchange, they should be prosecuted and barred from ever becoming an MP again.
Sir. It’s a gracious mistake. Morally legally and an MP. Come on. Sorry. In between, Am not a. BJP fan at any means.
Yes. Prosecution should be done now itself. She broke the oath
The more we get closer to 2024, election time, SG is unable to pretend to be unbiased! He is under pain that BJP will be coming back to power! Unfortunately for SG and many of his associates Majority of ordinary people seems to love the country more hence BJP will be back power, however hard you try and even call Drapadi being naked!
Yes Adani government will be just perfect.
@@pushpindersingh1819Adani govt will be far better than Italian/Islamic govt
@@pushpindersingh1819maybe you want a Hiramandani government. Seriously man, how blind are you.😅
Adani govt would be better than pappu govt
@@janakiseethabs argument going on .
Slaves unlimited every where appeasing their respective masters 😅
Ex MP Mahua Moitra is guilty when she admitted sharing her LS login credentials. All else doesn't matter. Yes, BJP may have done some sins in the past but that doesn't justify Ms. Moitra's actions.
This parliament is going to end in a few months. What if she's re-elected in the next parliament?
Shekhar Gupta is a platinum medal gymnast 🎉. If same would have been done by others then it would be different. He needs to clarify what would happen to a print employee if they have shared their access to a competitor of theirs. They would be sacked and sued
The great modern GuptaJi, espousing liberal values and an open mind... still cannot say 'BOYfriend' 😂😂
ohh.. everybody knows that Jai was a boy and a friend.
Shekhar Ji, Mahua Moitra with her outspoken criticism of Govt should have stayed Clean. As you are a movie buff you can appreciate Raaj Kumar dialogue: jinke apne ghar sheeshe ke hote hain, woh doosron pe patthar nahin phenka karte .
Good effort to clean Mahua moitra
It is obvious that as long as she was allowed to make statements on her own she continued to speak but as soon as she was asked questions that put her in a spot she started throwing tantrums and accusing the committee of asking her inappropriate questions to escape further scrutiny and walked out.
This amounts to 5:21 “who she slept with”… are you serious Shekhar Ji…!!???
that was danish ali, cuz he wanted to be close to her.
It’s written in the report! Exact verbiage
Her boyfriends have only ditched her and put her in trouble she should be angry with them not bjp..time will come when she wil than bjp for opening her eyes on reality of her dear businessman friends ...she is really fool still not understanding anything
Bringing up the past does provide some additional context but does not change the facts of the current case. MPs are supposed to be our representatives. They are not supposed to pawn off their power and previlige to the highest bidder. Mahua Moitra was so brazen in how she acted that it would have been embarassing for BJP if they had somehow let her continue with a slap on her wrist. Media bias in her favor just lowers the opinion that the public already holds for you people.
Are you out of your Mind SG asking someone in which hotel you stayed amounts to asking with whom did she slept? How much low can someone go to save a culprit. This is prepostours.
You disappointed me Mr. Gupta!!!
I felt you were defending her...
If a normal citizen would have done half of this, he/she would have been arrested long before...
Past is past. 2005. That time may be they were not in the right track. It doesn’t mean this present situation should left without action
The Lady definitely did make a mistake by sharing passwords & login id to someone she should not have. Quantum of punishment? There is probably only one more session is left for this Parliament before elections take place. The language she used outside the parliament only confirms it's a good riddance. What to do?
Burnol moment for likes of you sir. Anyway it wouldve been fine if she’d taken money to ask questions - but - here she literally gave the arabs our loksabha login id. Huge national threat. I guess a serious audit of all foreign linked and opposition anti national MPs should immediately conducted, all passwords force chNged with multi factor authentication and omly allowed to work from India (can be tricked with vpn)
Fully agree. To add to your suggestions, the portal can't be tricked with VPN, if the portal is app based and can be device-locked as well.
I am sure opposition will start cutting their losses soon (Mahua in this case). I would be surprised if she manages a second innings in politics.
I call myself "unhiphenated neutral Journalist" but how can I change my left-congressi dna due to my whole life career in " darbari" media like Indian Express, Ndtv, India Today?
Hope SG and team read the comments and take note of the country's sentiment. As a citizen of our country, I rue that even after being caught red handed and accepting her mistake (no small one) senior joutnalists support her!!!!
@DiogenesTheFrog i have done it long time ago.
Journalists , some have not learnt Journalism,some are jou alist cum Politicians and some are.... If ..their ...demand .this side..that ..side.
Fortunately... today.ost Indian read and listen to every journalist but do not believe them and not deciding anything from their utterences or news
Only chandrachud is worse than shekhar backlash from SM is hate speech.
Dear sir .. in corporate life any password sharing means termination of ji .. here an MP is Sharing the credentials.. I don’t know what is part of the portal.. but ideally if it is established that password sharing has happened a person should be moved out irrespective of the level of benefits. MPs have to show highest standard of individual governance
Thank you Editor ji for beaming floodlight on the entire issue to view every aspect crystal clearly.
There definitely were reasonable grounds for the actions both earlier and now. However, the earlier ones were more rational.
What goes around comes around.
SG is complaining things moved too fast.. why does he want it slow
Forgive him. He is old and grew up in Congress Era and been used to that speed. He is still in denial that things are getting done in speed and scale in these 10 years (like roads, airports, trains, etc)
When blatant justice violations are punished some section of the media always comes up with a “but”, if only to please all.. pathetic…and keep the door ajar, so to speak. Such violations of secret act, attacks stringent action in many government departments.. The August house is important… do not please dramatize…
Tailpiece: Not from The Print, Shekhar. Two wrongs do not make a right.
Your tailpiece is the real highlight. But Shekharji, being old, is in advisory mode only and can't remember (your) age-old sayings, leave alone learning anything new (like things getting done in speed and scale).
@@SG-hs1fg Haha.. Love it.
In the corporate world, sharing your login and password to outsiders results in immediate termination.
WHAT IS THE SANCTITY OF IDs, PASSWORDs AND OTPs ? DO THE MEMBERS OF PARLIMENT NEED SOP ON THIS ? IGNORANCE IS NOT AN EXCUSE ! IT SEEMS THEY ARE PROUD OF THEIR IGNORANCE. SHAME SHAME.
File charges under NSA and Anti Corruption Act. Ordinary people go to jail for taking 100 Rs as bribe
The committee should have another enquiry to find what was the security team doing? How was access not flagged as risky? This shows the state of our systems. 😢😢
SG, if the ethical committee is from the parliament then let’s not compare how parties have fared previously. We have the courts to decide whether the committee was right or wrong using Kapil Sibal. Here we’re discussing national security concerning parliament. You need not justify a wrongful act
Kapil sibal that MF is saying Assam is not indian state 😂😂
She accepted that she gave her login and password details to Hiranandani during her interview with Sardesai. Full stop, that makes her criminal. I don’t think lots of English needed to defend her.
Absolutely
She is guilty. She is an MP and it's held to higher standards than the common citizen. People in govt have lost pensions and jobs for lesser things. Her theatrics does not make her actions any less.
Another great insight by Shekar. I love your narrative but always with a pinch of salt. True, many BJP MP's had done crimes and irregularities, and leaders of those days may have different perspectives between a privilege committee and the ethics committee. This BJP puts lots of research and thought before hitting the ground. Have you ever watched Mahua speaking ?? She was supposed to have been working for an international bank but speaks like mavericks. He come out as a uncouth and uncultured character much like he party leaders. Also, you were neither defending nor objecting to her expulsion??????
Her actions and expressions make her eminently qualified for vamp roles in Hindi and Bengali movies
😂😂😂lol
Why do you have to defend the culprit who engaged in illegal actions involving her membership of Parliament ?
Shekhar ji I have high respect for you. Don't support her misdeeds. It is clearly a severe offence.
My guess is that people who think of the seat of people's power as a sacred institution could not countenance Ms. Moitra's casual shrugging away with, 'everyone does it'. I think this was the red line that she crossed, and not the attacks against Shri Adani, though they must certainly have been an irritation. Every recent symbol thoughtfully invested upon the new Parliament building - recall Kartavyapath or the art and the architecture inside the new building - has been to elevate the sanctity of the place in the minds of people, especially those who come there to work.
The inquiry and punishment process followed is as per Departmental Enquiries against delinquent employees of Govt services as also govt undertakings. The established principle is Preponderance of Probability i.e., the delinquent could have committed the misconduct without insisting fool proof evidence. A reasonable opportunity to the delinquent to defend serves the principles of natural justice. The punishing authority will not go into details except that whether reasonable opportunity is given. Then summary punishment as per rules is awarded. The issue of Mahua ticks almost all. She will probably face CBI investigation regarding bribe part of the charge. All such departmental enquiries are from Kangaroo courts since the onus of proving beyond reasonable doubt doesn't exist. The evidences collected from wherever possible and admitting them lies with inquiring authority. Mahua has not denied having parted with user id & password. She has admitted having accepted illegal gratification. This is enough to impose punishment.
I have been watching The Print for some time
This is the lowest of quality of defending a wrong doing I am hearing
I am an NRI and I work in a multinational environment. If the company find I have shared my credentials I will be suspended immediately without any debate or question
Here we are talking the sharing of credentials at the highest level where there can be National security risk and with out any debate or question she should have been removed long time back if there were proof
Further comparing to the past erodes the seriousness of the issue
Thanks for reducing Bharat Sarkar to a profit motive corporate entity. And mind you, an MP is not an employee of the Bharat Sarkar. It's not the same thing.
Mr Gupta’s most reused line in cut the clutter “Cut the clutter is about decluttering a complex topic. I generally don’t give my opinion in the cut the clutter but when I do I make sure to qualify it”. Not sure why he forgot to say that today. It was full on personal support to Mrs Moira without qualifying it though with so much whataboutary. Wonder why though ?
This is how Sekar Gupta makes his dollars 💵
I can't believe The Print is arguing in favour of Mohua Moitra quoting irrelevant past examples. Both her and Darshan Hiranandani have agreed to sully India's image, case closed. She got away lightly.
The way you have presented this is that Ms Mahua has not done as bad as the punishment ? Giving Lok Sabha is credential is a serious national security issue specially sharing with someone who stays abroad. Not sure other expulsion cases you narrate are comparable
let us if SG will post his portals id and pw to me , his suscriber. Hey i have paid money, should i not get access to his portal. but fu---cker will not. he needs to cover his cut pen==is. I am unsubscribing.
So Sekhar Ji doesn’t have any concern of the crime she committed but he has concerns about actions from GOI. Shame on you Sekhar Ji.
Why OFFICIAL SECRETS ACT not invoked against her?if a govt servant would have done something like this he/she would have been put behind bars under this act & sacked from service without any financial benefits
Shekhar, why do you believe that things should not be moving at a fast pace in this country? Only one evidence is enough that she shared her password with someone thereby authorizing him to access the LokSabha portal like an MP.
Shouldn't we the citizens expects unforgivingly highest standards of integrity in personal and business conduct of people holding public office?
Its citizen's right to expect so, hence, expelling Mahua upholds the scrutiny.
Yes, but then turn a blind eye to BJP's goon and thugs in the parliament.
@@SumitPalTube You mean to say other political parties don't have MPs with criminal record. Lol. And whoever they're, from whichever party, they have been elected and bestowed upon the responsibility of representation which they've not compromised alongwith national interest. Unlike the case for Mohua who sold out the faith and responsibility alongwith for some gifts as well as compromised national interest. Pathetic
Agree with Shekhar here, just because our player has been caught cheating, the entire system is a 'kangaroo court' and past anecdotes can be used to justify this.
😂 sarcasm?
Gupta conveniently glosses over the MOST SERIOUS offense - that of sharing her Lok Sabha login ID and pswd.....these are mentioned in passing, whereas these are matters of national security. Gupta, you need to realise, times have changed, and the public is more aware than ever before, despite people like you trying to fool them
Sir, I was desperately waiting for today's episode... and trust me I had anticipated on the topic ...
What exactly did Shekhar Gupta de clutter in this episode? Just read out some passages from the ethics committee report, raised some doubt about speedy nature of the hearing and the judgement and highlighted the past mistakes of the bjp leaders.
Slam the bjp where they are wrong but why compare and try to create soft corner for the others....
The MP in this case has openly admitted of doing what os supposed to be prohibited but does not want to be punished for it and throwing tantrums.
overacting woman.
Shekhar Gupta is completely biased with tmc..such a shame from a journalist.
It’s sad to see seasoned journalists use their best effort to create doubt in their readers mind by projecting things as if that are happening for the first time without mentioning 2005 episode wherein 10 members were expelled on same day…. Good effort but I was expecting better coverage to gain public attention …!!!
Those who fight by the sword die by the sword. RIP Mahua's political career, a bit too reckless, end always in sight.
It would be interesting to know if MPs sign the officials secret act. Also is this the first instance of MPs sharing their login IDs. Looking at the MPs, many seem to be computer illiterate.
Should appreciate that how fast case was moved 😅😅😅
So we are sure now that, if ananya bharadwaj and snehesh philips shares their print ID card and email id ,access to their office key etc, SG as boss will take not any action for atleat 3 years ,as speed of action is anthema to SG
Well..if such a thing happens in companies it is quite normal for the reprobate employee to get the sack immediately. So not surprised the ethics committee took such an action against the MP.
Giving access details to a third person is a NO NO FULL STOP !!!!
Leave the expulsion apart. Did she not share her id/pw with a third party ? MPs get sensitive information including those on national security. What if such info gets shared ? Expulsion is only a first step
I thought you will discuss about the Jammu and Kashmir bill passed in parliament and its implications