United Douglas DC-8 - "Chicago to Los Angeles" - 1963
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- Now re-upped in full length form. Classic ATC promo film, this is a great one from start to finish, with lots of neat UAL DC-8 Series 12 & 21 footage, plus scenes around O'Hare & LAX! Many thanks to the Internet Archive, Fed Flix Collection. Be sure to check my channel for the best in VINTAGE & RARE airliner videos!
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The DC-8 always looked like she had a big smile!!
The fantastic thing about these 1960ies films was that information was seriously presented and one could learn a lot. Nowadays everything is turnes into a big show, interruptions by commercials and one ends up being as uniformed as before a film.
One can even feel nowadays that it was a period of inspiration and progress, and mutual respect.
Yeah, compare this with something from TMZ, full of meaningless drivel about this week's "celebrity," shouted by a shrill-voiced moron... oh and shot with a purposely shaky camera whipping all over the place.
Couldn't agree more. Today, everything has to be entertainment or no one listens. We've dumbed down our culture so much. It's one of the reasons we have that joke of a man in the Oval Office who claims to be a very stable genius.
Craig Deutsch As opposed to the career criminal politician who intentionally mishandled classified information, terrorized her rapist husbands sexual assault victims, lied about the deaths of Americans on her watch, exploited the people of Haiti, laughed about the child rapist she got off besting a polygraph, and was involved in the murders of over 20 people who threatened her family’s political regime. Yeah we really missed a great opportunity for her to be in office, so unfortunate about trump. Idiot.
Talk about "old school" this video takes the cake. Helicopter ride to the airport and then board a classic DC-8 to LA...Classic!!!
+Herb Jackson Jr - In the 60s it was very common to helicopter from the South side of Chicago, from Midway airport (6300 So.) to O'Hare airport (9500 No.). Much faster than a long taxi ride.
When there was TWA and no TSA!! The golden age of flight...
Even babies were well-behaved on planes back then.
The old Cessna hasn't changed much in 50+ years
I was born in 1951 and had my first airplane ride was in November of 1957 in a TCA Super Constellation when we immigrated from Ireland to Vancouver, Canada. As a young teenager my friend and I would travel out to the Vancouver airport on Sunday's via our 50 cent ride all day Sunday bus pass. Back then there was very little if any security at the airport. We used to walk around to the outside of the main terminal building where there was a waiting lounge / room for the pilots to relax between stops.We would walk in and talk with the pilots and ask them if they would show us the inside of the cockpits of the airplanes that were been serviced at that time. My friend and I got to sit in many DC8, 707, Viscount, Vanguard and DC6 cockpits. The pilots who would bring us out to the aircraft always seem to enjoy the experience as much as we did. Plus, it gave them something to do while the were waiting for their next flight. The other thing we use to do was stand on the viewing ramp which was a stones throw away for the airplanes as the were firing up their engines. It was so cool to listen to the howling jet engines on the DC8 and 707's as they were warming up. We would spend 4 or 5 hours out at the airport every other Sunday. We just loved every moment of it.It's too bad the way the world has evolved (in aviation security) since then. I feel so fortunate to be born when I was and to have those great experiences in my early years.
the involution is in society at large !!.
tube396 Thanks for sharing your experience! What was it like to ride in the Constellation? How many hours did it take?
I miss those awesome turbojet engines.
You can still hang around the airport, just not as close. Many airports have several nice plane watching spots and its about the best free entertainment you can get if you like planes.
I feel fortunate to be born when I was. I got to grow up in a much less complexed world. No internet, no social media, no 24/7 news channels or modern day terrorism etc. We had 2 tv channels and they both went off the air at 11:30pm. We had so much fun just been kids without all the pressure kids experience today via social media etc. I'm now 66 years old and I don't mind getting old because I was blessed with a full and wonderful life.
The romantic years of the DC-8. Great memories for the pilots who flew it.
That dc-8 is one of the most gorgeous sights i’ve ever seen
Wow, I was born the year this was filmed. I’m a pilot and very much appreciate the services of Air Traffic Control.
Those seats are huge, bigger than a 2018 love seat for your living room.
Thank you from Germany for this great movie...The 60th were great times for aviation...the era of the jet age starts...
the DC-8 and 707 had such a short time in the sun. They were introduced about 1959 and by 1969, the airlines started to replaced them with jumbos and other more modern aircraft. They were in front line service with the major carriers for only about 10 years. They were still in use in the early 70s, but they were being phased out while still in use. Today, an aircraft design is in front line use for 30 years before starting the phase out process.
That was an amazing time, and even as a kid, I knew it was neat!
Sadly, that was an era of elegance and simplicity that will never come again.
With the growth of our population, the world is a far different place, and not for the better.
LIfe was better back then. Men were gentlemen, women were ladies, no tattoos, torn up clothes, purple hair, and rings through noses.
I am so grateful for videos like this that remind me of wonderful times.
Back in the early 70's I flew quite frequently, as a child. My parents were divorced, one living in tulsa, one in el paso. I'd fly that circuit on continental airlines every few months from around age 3 on up. I remember being treated like royalty....given unlimited peanuts and sodas...and they gave me little flight wings that were clipped onto my shirt. You never hear of that stuff today.
Manners, respect, good conversation...Seems to be Qualities of Long Gone
Steve Lovell ö
Yeah... How long has it been since someone said "thank you" in your presence?
Wonderful film from the 60',s. Amazing film quality. Thank you for posting.
Herman
Cracks me up how everyone flying in that video was dressed super formal. Men in suit and tie, women in really nice dresses. You dont see that these days. A lot of folks wear the equivalent of pajamas to fly in.
They still do wear that in first class between business city legs. Most travelers back in the day were not leisure, they were business folks. It's not as common these days but plenty of executives still fly first class all the time.
Suits ties and hats worn to fly. Elegant times before jeans and T shirts struck.
Can really appreciate how exciting and new this all was at the time through this video.
Completing my commercial pilot license myself it's sometimes easy to forget how far the industry has come and that it still is just as exciting as ever.
Used to be $10 one way from downtown to O'Hare by helicopter, even in 1969. Amazing. Took less than 10 mins.
1977 flew on a United DC-8 from Wash Dulles to Sacramento. awesome flight. still have the menu from the inflight service
I miss this type of etiquette. Born in 81, I experienced the last part of this traveling experience, even in the 90's and early 2000's it was ok.
I found this Film to be very informative, I have learnt a great deal from watching it. I now understand that there is a great deal more that goes on behind the scenes in every flight.
Interesting that in spite of all technological advances, more computers and computerized instruments, etc., 50 years later the essence and the principles of the ATC work remain the same - and it still depends a lot on human work and interaction.
Yes, you're right, and I would like to add that from 1972 when the Boeing-747-400 was released up to 1994 there was no significant improvement in the commercial aviation, meaning up to the middle 90's we were basically flying on 1972 technology. The only "thing" missing here on the plane from this video video is the AP (automatic pilot) that was implemented around 1965 I think.
billy payne, the 747-400 first flew only in 1988 and entered service in 1989. It incorporated technologies such as the glass cockpit and fly-by-wire that weren't possible yet in the 1970s. The model that entered service in 1972 was the 747-200, which, in retrospect, was not much more advanced than the original 747-100 and didn't have any real breakthrough innovation. But your observation still applies for the 20-year period between the launch of the original 747 and the 747-400. As for the autopilot, primitive systems were demonstrated as early as 1914 and were commonplace in the 1950s already, although they became radically different after the 1980s, when the availability of the microchip made computerized flight controls a fixture of all modern planes.
Goytá F. Villela Jr.
Yes, in fact it was the B-747-200 (I made a mistake on that one even tho I knew it, I just had a "mental lapsus". In regards to the first AP invented by Sperry that was more an "stabilizer" than a actual AP, but it's OK, he took credit in 1914, and then in WW2 some bombers implemented it on some long missions, but I was more talking about a real AP i commercial airliners that can really give pilots a rest outside the cockpit and go and kiss a flight attendant in the bathroom, and that first started in 1962 with the B-707 and B-727. And in the 80's came the UP FMS (flight management system) as we basically know it up til these days but I am not 100% sure about this or if the Airbus line 330 and 380 are using a much more complex system. Anyway thank you for your excellent reply.
The big advancement regarding the B747-200 was that the engines were more reliable and more powerful. The -100 couldn't fly JFK-NRT nonstop. The reason why Pan Am had Boeing build the 747SP. But while Boeing was borking on the SP, Pratt & Whitney was able to make enough improvement on the engine that would allow the 747 to fly JFK-NRT nonstop and carry the same passengers the -100 was carrying as opposed to the smaller load of the SP. hence why so few SPs were built.
sasha blaine The 747-200 still had less range than the SP though (couldn't fly LAX-SYD nonstop), and even the 747-300 had less range than the -200.
Douglas Aircrafts were structurally so much reliable, as for their experience with the C-47 in WWII. As years gone by, its only short comings were the avionics of later generations, but for its aircraft structure....its still airworthy
Those old helicopters in this vid look like giant grass hoppers. Also look how respectful people were and how everyone dressed classy and have manners. (yes this is a production but its really how things were) Completely different in todays world only a few decades later
The good old days of flying. United Airlines were a good airline to fly back in the day compared to today.
People dressed in suits and no screaming babies! I love it.
I'd rather have screaming engines!
I am 57 and have two children a boy and a girl :) and now one Grandson :) but they live in another state . God knows how I miss them even their crying :(
What an awesome look into how it was done some 50+ years ago. Thanks for posting!
Fabulous! It takes me back. Yes, I'm THAT old!
These are such beautiful airplanes 🙂
Dc-8 has the BEST LOOKING SEATS EVER ! DAMN looks so comfy wide and loungy like in home
Chicago Helicopter Airways, what a blast from the past! I remember the service being there, but never had the pleasure of riding a helicopter to the airport. I sure remember the graphics on the old check-in counter furniture though. So many incremental changes have happened.
Shown at 00:58, as of 1969, I recall the ground level parking lot at OHare as shown . You could park at a reasonable rate, walk across the roadway and enter the terminal buildings on the ground floor--it was the only way there (No hotel; no parking garage--no traffic nightmares). The round center building (Rotunda) had a large restaurant on the upper level called the "Seven Continents" Restaurant--very ritzy. It still has the wall plaque honoring "Butch O'Hare" for whom the airport is named--the 2 terminal buildings attached to the "Rotunda" are still intact but have been extensively changed on the outside/inside. A 3rd terminal building which housed all the smaller airlines (Like Piedmont/Allegheny) was demolished and United built their terminal there--called Terminal 1.
Midway is still handy.
Another reason I usually fly Southwest. They still use that airport.
This almost seems to be a more genteel era. People in suits, no people trying to crash in their carry-on luggage at the last second only to block the aisle, no screaming babies. And look at those chairs: they were wider than what we have now. As for the service ? Top notch ! "Sad sigh"... Where oh where did it all go wrong ?
The FBO where I flew had an old DC-3, one of the first planes I learned to identify when a child (the other was a P-38!) and I got to co-pilot the DC-3 a couple of times -- what a thrill flying that fabulous plane! When I was about age 7 or 8, my parents sent my sister (2 years older) and I from California to our grandparent's farm in Kansas for the summer and we flew on a DC-3, I only remember learning the word "Albuquerque" which was one of the stops on the way there, and holding the "stewardess's" hand when we left the plane! I've always loved the first "Gooney-Bird." I think they can fly forever, since there are still a few left who can 81 years old after they first graced the sky!
They flew us home when we were due to get discharged from Navy c. 1979. Flew a "World Airways" flight from Osan AB, to Yokota, to Travis AFB. It was a stretch DC-8. I will never forget that flight; we all had to get up a few times to stretch, but the DC-8 was great and the service was good too, albeit for a MAC flight. Those of us from the distant past experienced airline travel in its best and most courteous form compared to now.
I love the fact that the flight crew kept their jackets on, at least they didn't have their hats on too!!! Love the video, thanks for posting it!
What a classic. Thanks for sharing.
"We have clearance Clarence, Roger Roger, what's our vector Victor, Huh??"
This ROCKS!!! On so many levels for me personally. Thanks for posting this video of FAA and United and Ohare and Los Angeles and my father flying. All of which factored into my career.
Ed Osdoba Your dad is in this film? How cool!
Ed Osdoba Which one is your father and what is your career?
WOW! Have things really changed, but this is the way it was back in the day.
This is beyond awesome. Thank you so much for sharing this for us all to enjoy. I'm proud to have you in my featured channel list. Right into my AVIATION playlist. ROCK ON!!!!!!
Very interesting and most enjoyable.
Fascinating work by all the Air Traffic Controlers in the USA, with a supreme knowledge for a safe
Aviation in the Country ! congratulations to all , wishing Happy Christmas Holidays 2018 !
OMG! If flying were only like that now? Imagine telling those passengers that in 50 yrs the future holds clothing see-thru full-body scans, shoes off and not a scrap of food or drink on board. Oh yeah, $25 for that check bag.
Black pants and white socks...I love it!!
That was very fun to watch something from aviation from the past. :)
I love to see classic planes. Thanks for uploading this.
I remember the DC-8 was still in service in the early 90's here for United. No more.
Two shots of the original DEN, Stapleton Airport as it was known. Shows a Continental Boeing 720B taxing by. The control tower still stands in the middle of residential and commercial development, meanwhile miles to the N/E the DEN code is aka DIA.
great color and quality!
This is a well produced film. I wonder if it could be produced today? Maybe not. We don't usually see positive messages like this, in videos about federal agencies.
What a fantastic video! Thank you so much for posting!
Now re-upped in full length, and in better colour too.
+Classic Airliners & Vintage Pop Culture the best on the video is the ch-53
+Manaritzis88 Sikorski Super Stallion?
no i was tired haha its a h-34
+Classic Airliners & Vintage Pop Culture And thank you for doing so!
+Ed Osdoba Thanks Ed! Feel free to peruse my channel anytime, I have hundreds of films like this uploaded.
The days of 64 code transponders, when the "Emergency" squawk was "77".
Excellent. As a pilot, much of this is now automated.
I REMEMBER THIS PLAIN WHEN I VISITED THE UNITED STATES
THANKS YOU
More room on the DC-8 than any wide body coach section today
Miss the white shirts and narrow black ties. When I became an Air Traffic Controller in 1970 that was the uniform of the day;
Al Cuevas Is it true that you received 2 years of training before doing the job?
mlovmo Hi, When I got my "formal: training, it was two months at the FAA academy in Oaklahoma City. If you survived that (40% of my class didn't) then you went back to your facility that you were going to work at for On the Job Training. I would say that it took about six month of school and training before you were certified as a journeyman controller.
+mlovmo The FAA academy was closed in 1975 when I was hired in as an air traffic controller. Spent 6 months at Austin to check out in the AUS tower; was then transferred to RVS (Riverside Tower, Tulsa); checked out there in about another two months (lots, lots, lots more traffic than Austin); then four months later went from a GS-7 to a GS-9 (could only advance at most two pay grades every year), and then after another year, on my hiring anniversary in 1977, made it to GS-11 and became a "full performance level" controller, which basically just meant that I could work without another full performance level controller somewhere in the tower. Well, it also meant that no other controllers in the tower with me had to be Full Performance Level controllers -- only one controller had to be "Full Performance" -- and, when staffing was short, I could work alone, solo in the tower. After working for a year as a Full Performance Level controller at Riverside Tower, I moved to TUL (Tulsa International) and became a GS-12. There was a lot less traffic at the Tulsa International Airport than at Riverside, but the radar room below the tower added five radar and three or more hand-off positions, in addition to the four positions in the tower, that had to be mastered. There was also non-radar to master -- something that had the FAA academy been in operation when I hired in I would have trained on sooner rather than later. It took almost another year to check out on all the positions at TUL. A lot of us who transferred from RVS to TUL had problems with all the coordination that was required of controllers at TUL. At RVS, when we plugged into Local, we were GOD! Or, to quote Mel Brooks: "It's good to be king!" At TUL, the teamwork requirements meant we were working with other controllers as much or more than we were with pilots.
garyskerr How comes you folks received such little time to train? Nowadays you'd need a college degree, money and about 2 or so years in training?
+Al Cuevas: How 'bout the white sox?
Great look into the past thanks for sharing this documentaire
I remember when ORD looked like that!
I flew on a DC-8 in 1979 on a flight from London to Los Angeles via Maine
What an excellent documentary . ! thank you
Still very informative. I think the number of planes in the air has only changed by a 1000 or so.
I love the dialogue.
Amazing how ATC changed over the years.
Thank you for these videos I enjoy them very much !
I ve been flying with DC8 to Syney ..Hongkong and Tokyo ....nice experience..
4:34 happy aircraft
Very knowledgeable. Thanks for sharing.
Notice how all of the passengers are dressed up? It is so rare these days.
PilotGleb people walk around unshaven, in pajama bottoms, all tattooed up like they just did a dime in sing sing, bone in their nose etc etc sad world...
They have no class anymore. former pilot.
Well they didn't have to undress to go through security back then.
Even now, you are treated with more respect if you present a neat appearance
Yeah today it feels like you're in Walmart on a plane - BLECH !!!
The seats were bigger and the people were smaller back then.
The golden age of Aviation
I wish we still used those accents today and talked like that...
I know using words like 'fellas'
Same
You mean English?
Awesome. Thanks for uploading :)
Classy and classic..
Air travel was civilized back then!!!
Verry Nice Thanks 4 The Memeries.
Thx for posting it.
I remember my first cross country flight in1960 from Cleveland to SFO. A stop at ORD. I had the opportunity to transfer from a United DC 6 to a United DC 8 for a premium of $10, I think that saved me about 3 hours flying time.
A plane so awesome even Xenu used it.
Coats and ties? Man! We look like complete slobs these days in comparison! We run around half naked, multi-colored hair, tattoos, body piercings, and torn up clothes. We're a freak show. How embarrassing.
I remember picking up relatives at LAX fifty years ago we even dressed up just to pick them up. It was just a different time.
Memories come to mind... Back in 1960, my sister and me, after spending summer in the midwest, returning to our home in Sweden, flew Chicago helicopter from o hare to International to catch Pan American DC8 for Stockholm via Shannon, Ireland, London and Oslo. With som reluctance,to be sure,since in the preceding week, one of the big helicopters, Sicorsky?, crashed, actually killing, I think, all on board. Alas, we survived to enyoy Pan Americans super service. We were only about 30 passengers on board. Times.... and we were dressed up for the occasion 😎
The USA of my boyhood. Men wore white shirts, suits, fedoras and wingtips. Women wore shirtwaists and low heels. Courtesy was good. Flight security was not a concern.
In 1962, my family took the helicopter shuttle from JFK to Newark.
O'Hare looks enormous here. It is substantially bigger yet today.
Wonderful video...
Very nice, love the tower simulator..
Cherry Pepper asks about call button, etc. Early DC-8s had so-called Palomar seats where reading light, PA speaker, passenger call button and fresh air vents were all integrated into the seat backrests (air nozzle in back of the seat in front). So, unlike in the rival Boeing 707s, there's no overhead 'passenger service units'. The seats were costly to buy and maintain and the cabins could not be reconfigured easily so Douglas switched later models to conventional overhead units. Luggage bins with lids in place of coat racks came later.
Those openings in the nose of the plane were for the air conditioners too. Douglas decided to run Freon based AC systems instead of the typical air cycle machines most other planes had. An old UAL and TWA mechanic told me they were impossible to keep running well, and leaked badly after a while of use. I believe the planes were eventually retrofitted with air cycle systems later. Interesting about those seats too. I guess Douglas wanted the DC-8 to be different.
nice footage… at that age some of my favorite jazz musicians were still alive (Coleman Hawkins e.g.). Nice footage…
One could never travel from downtown to the airport via helicopter now. I remember flying from Oakland to SFO via SFO Airlines. It dropped us off on the tarmac at SFO. That would never happen now, because one would have to go directly to TSA checkpoints before boarding an airplane.
And they still use that equipment today!
At the beginning of the movie, the helicopter is taking off from Meigs Field. Ahh, good old Meigs--an aviation gem on the Lake, so convenient for business planes who did not want to fly into Midway or O'Hare. But Emperor Daley (Chicago's Fascist Dictator for 20+ years) wanted Meigs, and whatever Emperor Daley wanted, Emperor Daley would get, so in true Daley fashion, he just bulldozed the runway in the middle of the night (March 30-31, 2003). As a pilot, you don't want to get me (or any other pilot in this country) started on that one....
But back to the video--it was so cool to see the "old" Chicago skyline (I didn't move here until 2002), and it was exciting to see how ATC did things back in the year I was born (1963). So many changes, but I also saw a few similarities! Oh, how I wish I could have been a traveler--and also a pilot--in those "golden days"....
Didn't Meigs get torn dorn for security reasons post-9/11?
Pretty impressive really like this time everything was more classy flying was so privileged and pilots where like super humans cool to see air bridges in 1963
My first flight on a jet at age 10 (in 1961). UAL DC-8, ORD - LAX.
Image result for which year was the jet bridge invented?
United Airlines tested an early prototype "Air Dock" in 1954. The first operational "Aero-Gangplank", as it was dubbed by inventor Lockheed Air Terminal, was installed by United at Chicago's O'Hare Airport in 1958.
Patrice Le Coz United called them “Jet Ways”. I flew with United from the age of 2weeks to 21. Mostly ORD to LAX.
Good times! Interesting that the basics of traffic control are still the same - in fact, I think the US is still divided up into the same air route traffic control centers. But thankfully, the controllers don't have to have the pilot press a button to light up the local beacon lol! All planes have transponders now, so their ID, altitude, and speed all show up right on the screen. Another thing that stuck out was the use of the word "takeoff" in communication between the pilots and controllers. Nowadays, the *only* time the word takeoff is used is when actually giving takeoff clearance. At all other times, the word "departure" is used. That rule came out years later than this, after the disaster at Tenerife.
Beautiful
When I watch these masterpieces, I usually think about how much tenchnology had changed the ATC's and other things mentioned.
Actually, the technology for ATC has changed very little since then. The new GPS based system is just rolling out now and wont be in full use until 2020.
That's good to know, I love learning new stuff
I flew on a Capitol airways DC-8 in 1975.
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Awesome!!!