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@@joeyn.3567 They release new phone every year then start taking down and discontinuing the older ones. And yes, to pressure us into buying their new products cuz the older ones are "outdated".
@@sgxmp8565 bro i still have an iphone 8. infact many people still use very old iphones. And if it no longer supports updates then its still fine. as long as it still do basic things well thats all it really matters just dont go on shady websites on your phone.
You know if you showed me a Iphone 12 or a Iphone 15, i would be fooled to think it is one or the other. Only geeks know the difference. This is how simular they look 😄
i saw a comment on a solar punk video and its so incredibly true "for the success of solar punk, the abolition of the wrongs of capitalism is very important"
These upgrades are only underwhelming if you buy one every year. Ideally, you should be using your phone for at least 3 years or more. I have the 12 Mini since 2020 and it’s still rocking great.
It's easier to undermine changes then it is to understand them. Iphone can support ray tracing now, has a significantly imporved camera, and improved battery life. what more do people want?
The reason Apple and all other smartphone companies don't seem to be innovating anymore is rather simple, phones are a mature market. As you said, there's only so much you can shove into a glass slab before there's not much else that can be improved. Nowadays, it's mostly software that you will see updates in with very marginal upgrades to the hardware. Even cameras don't receive significant hardware upgrades because they're limited by size, they'll instead be improved through improvements in image processing. You shouldn't be worried about how these companies "don't innovate" because they're making drastic improvements in software, and people don't buy phones that much anymore because it's sort of like buying a car. You don't buy a car every year, but once you do buy a car after a few generations and revisions, you will see those improvements. That's what sort of market the iPhone is in now. However, back on topic, you should be concerned with how much they are willing to push software and how much it will integrate and act as a parasite on our lives. These companies will of course seek to occupy and obtain as much information about you through software, and they will absolutely have all the information they could possibly ever want with VR sets.
All good points. The Double tap gesture on the new Apple Watch is a good example of that. Combining blood flow patterns and what not in order to know what you’re doing with your fingers is just a glimpse of what’s coming. I welcome these technologies though, not that I have a choice 😅
@@dylancounte1448 You can enjoy the content of this channel and still have your own thoughts. I agree with a lot of what Moon says, but I disagree with a lot of it too. Don’t put yourself or anybody into a box. I reject modern society and live a fully self sustainable life, make my own energy and food, yet I enjoy technology and create AR training simulators for the US department of defense.
I have a Fairphone. It has a 5 year guarantee and it's modular. So when my battery starts to become worse I can simply buy a new one and pop it in. Costs like €30
That’s because you’re not supposed to be upgrading your phone every year. I’m on a 3 year upgrade cycle, and it works perfectly. Year 1 - Newest phone, Year 2 - Still pretty new, Year 3 - Getting a bit old might be worth an upgrade, Year 4 - New phone. You’re all just sucked into this idea of needing something new as soon as it comes out.
Exactly. Those who are buying new phones as soon as they are released for the full price are those getting screwed. I'd rather wait one year or so and buy a used/refurbished one.
Bro, if anybody is smart enough to understand, Apple releases the phone every eight months go on Wikipedia I noticed this years ago. I just never said nothing to nobody. They’ve been robbing people people are stupid enough to do this shit.
Fax. Its wrong to blame apple or any other phone company for simple coming out with a better and improved product every year. The people are the ones that are materialistic and obsessed with status and simply need to have a new phone every year. Im also on 3-4 year upgrade cycle and my "old" iphone 12 still works perfectly fine to the point that I still dont really NEED a replacement. You wouldn't blame alcohol drink company if someone caused a crash under influence, you'll blame the person who willingly consumed alcohol and sat behind the wheel
One correction: Apple was not the first company to produce a phone with 2 cameras. LG Optimus 3D and HTC EVO 3D both came out in 2011 with dual cameras. There are lots of innovations that apple was late to adopt and that other phone companies had on their phones years before Apple did. Lots of people hold on to having iPhones because they don't want to get used to a new system and, as you mentioned, because of the FOMO.
"Lots of people hold on to having iPhones because they don't want to get used to a new system". Oh wait, is that that millions of people around the world do with Windows? Whoops, we never hear of this, apparently. Junkies have been buying Windows for 25 years, hating every version, but still buy it, because they are used to it? Windows being late adding features? That's how Windows operates, being late. And when they finally do it (if they do), they do it wrong, usually.
I still use my iPhone 6+. Battery finally went out 2 years ago, and I replaced it myself for 20 bucks. I like the slim design and rounded edges, and all the apps still work fine. Camera takes good pictures, and cellular/data transfers are good. Never felt the phone was "slow" Why change? Maybe when iPhone 16 comes out next year, I'll upgrade; then I'll have a 10-phone upgrade span.
I have a 6s and I agree with everything you said except camera taking good pictures. In fact that's my sole reason behind the urge to upgrade, for years.
For someone like me who buys an iPhone every 7 years I can safely say I see innovation when I buy a new phone. I think for those that buy the newest phone every year they’re the ones getting screwed.
Yep. I’ve only had three. A 4, a 6 and now a 12. I only replace them when they break irreparably. When did people stop treating their possessions like that?
@@TesterAnimal1 People that buy cheap Android phones still treat them like that, for example my everyday phone is a 3 year old 250 euro Android phone and i'll definitely use it at the least for another year. IPhones though are more like a brand thing. Like you don't want to appear with last years Gucci bag kind of thing. So for many it became just a show off which is why is important to always get the latest model and they feel disappointed if not enough innovation was put in it because they feel obliged to buy it anyway.
All phone companies have this problem. Phones themselves are the problem more than anything, not Apple. This isn’t to say they arent leading the herd though.
Back when we started having cell phones, a person may have forgotten to charge the phone at night, and we would swap the battery with someone else in the household, while the uncharged battery gets charged. It was so convenient. Almost as convenient as 0 to 100% charge in 45 minutes.
well im still young but i still remember like 7years ago i thought front facing speakers were the greatest innovation to entertainment consumption and then here we are now where we have holes in our screens..... f*ck iphone and f*ck those sheeps who keeps buying them
Imagine a world where you could seamlessly swap out select phone parts like you could do your home/ office computer... now thats the dream repairability.
@@alexeyklyshnikov7145 Project Ara was not just an "attempt". It was supposed to be the future of smartphones, google killed it because they were coming out with the pixel lineup of phones. It is more profitable to sell people a whole new phone then to only be able to sell individual parts hence why it was killed in favor of the pixel phone series, it does work its just nearly impossible to exist in a corporate environment.
I upgraded from iPhone 7 to Fold5… back to android and I don’t have any regrets and at least I can tell the difference between a single screen and one that’s substantially wider when opened up… I don’t see myself going back to Apple.
@@xitoroman I don't have the 5, but I have the fold 3. With constant use from 100%, even now almost 4 years later, still lasts about 6 hours before getting the 15% charge warning. Depending on what im doing anyways. If im having youtube in a side window while doing other tasks, it can last shorter, maybe around 4-5 hours of constant use.
Upgraded from xr to fold5 and idk why I didnt do it sooner. My friends and fam and even coworkers all hate me for being the only one with an android because of green bubbles and no imessage lol
Worst phone I have ever owned. Photos suck. Thing overheats. Reception is horrible--worse than 2009 era phones. Thick, heavy and does NOTHING absolutely NOTHING better than the past phone I had which was an 11. So sorry I bought this piece of garbage.
Mobile phone technology has almost reach its peak level, this is why there’s only little improvements every year…and that’s why you want to upgrade every 3-5 years intervals to really see a major change.
Not true. The chips will continue to get faster. Higher refresh displays. Higher res speakers. Longer lasting battery life and health. Faster charging. Better camera. There is much room for improvement.
@@kiavaxxaskew It's kinda crazy though, because for people like me who dont game or do anything super intense, we just want to be able to watch HD video, and seamlessly multitask between apps. This always seems to work pretty well for the first year or so, then they all get slow like always. I wouldnt be surprised if there was more throttling going on than we know.
In terms of technology , the cellphone that comes out in 2023 is basically something they could have put out 10 years earlier . If its a great mobile phone as they always claimed everytime they release a new one, then it should have lasted at least 10 years. But nope, you need to get a new one 1-2 years later.
So we definitely reached peak smartphone- and honestly I think thats fine. Eg. Laptops also have small performance updates each year. I think this is an opportunity to put less resources into the iphone and more into new products
When comes to specification, I think smartphone company is going backwards. They keep removing stuff like external memory card, headphone jack and stuck from punch hole. I think 2018-2019 is the best year of smartphone for low price while having best features
What did you expect? Apple changed its leadership from innovator to sales specialist. More streamlined corporate supply focused, less breakthrough innovation rebels. Apple's shareholders are quite happy.
innovation? selling same chinese iphone with new name apple sucks no wonder why apple users are poor ans why apple is rich because exist stupid people like you belive in apple 😅
Absolutely true. I worked for them in retail and the change after Jobs died was TRULY felt. They wanted to become this "luxury brand" when they released the Apple Watch. They really used to be cool, their system was great and very open in the 2000's. Now it's just idiot proof stuff for the mass market for a ridiculous price.
It worked for them last 10 years or so, though I don't mean it's good for consumer or anything. Just saying that it's not surprising and was very predictable. If not release of Apple Silicon in MacBooks, Apple had all the chances to repeat the history of Nokia with it's Symbian OS.
moon, you are crazy! it was released earlier this day and you already have a 12 minute video essay on it! high quality too! stock footage, audio, everything!
Lol, if you think this is high quality..... It's shiny editing, with 30 seconds of research. Most of the content is his standard "everything sucks, people are too poor to afford stuff". Never mind 10% of the country has over a million in assets, and the top 20% drive most spending, he focuses on how terrible everything is because it's just a way to cater to his audience by complaining about everything. New phones that Apple releases are purely for the chip and the camera. The new chip is amazing. Console level graphics (ps3-ps4), hardware ray tracing, Nvidia level dlss, just to name a few new features. He obviously doesn't understand chips because this is huge. Every apple chip is a cutting edge marvel. But ya, if you don't push your phone to the limit, of course it doesn't feel like an upgrade. It's like giving your grandma an rtx 4090. Of course she won't notice.
The people that buy a new iPhone every year are the same people that make $16 an hour but wear Gucci shirts and Air Jordan’s. Stop caring what strangers think about you and you’ll be a lot happier.
Social media made everything boring. Nothing is a surprise anymore since we all know and have the same information in pretty much real time. Can’t even show anyone a video without them saying that they’ve already seen it
The internet, you f00l. Social media is using your real identity on social platforms, which is why TH-cam and Reddit aren't really social media. Facebook, Instagram, snapchat, and tiktok are, because you post your real identity or photos of you and videos of you
@@pyropulseIXXI "Social media refers to the means of interactions among people in which they create, share, and/or exchange information and ideas in virtual communities and networks." It has nothing to do with using your real identity or not you idiot. People use fake identity on snapchat, tiktok, instagram, etc, and people use real identity and post videos of themselves on TH-cam and reddit. There is no difference between these sites. They are all social media
It's not just the planned obsolescence, but the active combating against reparability. When they don't want you repairing your device but instead to buy a new one, it makes all "we've done this for the environment" claim ring hollow.
Oh, are you talking about the only company in the industry with a self-repair program. That's about to be expanded to Europe. Or are you referring to the company that totally redesigned iPhone Pro line and regular line to make them easier to repair. Either follow the tech or retire that silly reparability nonsense.
@@bruxi78230 what kind of BS are you talking? Apple clearly isnt the only company with an self repair program bruh. and how did they make the new iphones more repairable?
@@Oxide53115 ---- It's funny when a BSer (you) calls me for commenting BS, but then conveniently forgets to publish which other company has a self-repair program. Which excuse was it; ignorance or hallucination? They made numerous changes on the interior of the phones to make them easier to repair. Next phone the 16 will have another improvement which involves wrapping the battery in a metal shell and new higher density battery. Also since I commented they extended the program to another continent.
@@bruxi78230 my excuse or mistake was thinking you could do some research for yourself, with you know Google.... but if you cant do an simple search, its Samsung ofcoarse and microsoft. why you calling me an BS,er when i was telling the truth and you werent?
Has anyone ever considered that the shape and features of "smartphones", regardless of it being Apple's, has reached it's peak? And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Future iterations DO NOT necessarily have to be drastically different in size/shape than its predecessors.
@@fnanfne I too am speaking about practicality because if Android phones can provide upto 120 watts safe fast charging, 6000+ mah (in 6.7 inch smartphones), USB 3 transfer speeds for phones from 3-5 years ago, what is the cost of increase in price adding upto consumer’s advantage? I do understand apple uses high grade components and hence the high price point, but less or not much upgrade but $200+ increases in price doesn’t make much sense. I have used Androids in the past and moved to Iphone for iOS SW development but to be frank my 5 year old mobile having 4000mah used to last longer than 3200mah in my current iphone 14 pro I am power user/SW engg, so my usage might be bit heavy. I too support that sometimes break through changes aren’t required and sustaining is better but increase in price for minor upgrade is basically like saying we raised prices due to inflation 😅
@@mahee96 But the thing is, we aren't paying more and more. The price of the "pro" iPhones has stayed at $999 since 2017. Considering inflation, the price has in fact reduced over time.
Back in early 2007 when Apple announced the iPhone I was super skeptical about their claim that it would be a game changer. Although not the first, Apple pushed smartphone innovation forward. But there's only so much you can do when with a device that has matured. Year-to-year improvements are more incremental now.
That last sentence is so true. It's why there's no point in upgrading every year. 3 years and it feels like a true upgrade y'know? It doesn't help that if Samsung or Apple skipped annual releases then their stock would plummet.
I can't believe you're 16 now... I'm serious. I can't believe it........ And just in 2 years you'll be 18 which is even more unbelievable. And then look at iPhone 17 maybe and compare it to first iPhone. Does it worth?...@@UnknownXVN
Thanks for this message. At last, someone who understands. You can't innovate indefinitely. But imagine the engineers working at Apple who need their paycheck to feed their families.
@@octolockg5059Luckily nobody forces anyone to buy a new phone every year. I just upgraded from 4+ years old OnePlus 7 Pro and the upgrade felt pretty significant. No more lag, better camera, better battery life, a lot brighter screen. Everything I could hope for. What else do people expect to have in a phone to call it innovative? Only thing I want is under display front camera so I can finally get a new phone with no notch or anything like that, but until then, what's wrong with incremental upgrades? Like people are fast to criticize the manufacturers and the industry as a whole, but never come up with any half-decent idea on how to upgrade the devices.
Yep, i loved it also very much, but the 12 and especially 13 Mini made it pretty obsolete to be honest. Im still using the 2016 SE, but its exclusively used as mp3 player (3,5mm jack, so nice!) and for jailbreak things. Replaced even recently the battery the 2nd time for at least 1-2 more years of usability, the first replacement battery was already at like 30-40% health and drained very fast. My daily driver is the iPhone 12 Mini. Not much bigger, yet so much more potent than the old, nice SE. At first, especially the protruding lens bump was just horrible, but now knowing the camera bump of the iPhone 15, i began to love my 12 Mini more than before the iPhone 15.
Buying something to impress people is literally the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. I’m not spending 1 cent to impress anybody. I buy things that I like.
People out here buying cringe Stanley mugs like dudes, they have lead in them why are you drinking out of a water bottle where the water is exposed to lead? Edit: lol you don't really need more than a 100 dollar phone for anything (if you buy used of course, even buying new you can do the same thing with 200 dollar phones) because all people use their phones for nowadays is screaming into tiktok and holding their phones upside down thinking it gets them internet points or something.
@@fabricliver Yeah, nothing meaningful changed basically since the iPhone 5s (introduction of Touch ID). I have the first SE still in use sometimes. It does basically everything that you need from a modern smartphone.
I’m pretty sure everyone waits like three to five years to buy a new iPhone, and in those five to three years there’s a big difference between your old phone and the latest iPhone
My first phone was an IPhone X and I waited four years for the 14 pro and now I’m gonna wait 6 years for the 20 and then for the rest of my life every ten years
My iPhone X is now 6 years old and I could keep it for even longer. So I'd say their products actually last a long time. Same goes for my MacBook Pro. It is now 8 years old and still in good condition and fast enough for office work and surfing.
Apple is gearing up for the Vision Pro to be the big product they innovate on and I predict it will be a huge product in 2-3 years. If you think about it, the Smart Phone really doesn't have much more that can be added or improved upon, except incremental speed boosts, camera upgrades, and software upgrades. The only thing they have yet to do is make a foldable iPhone, but that may never happen. We will see.
Bread boxes. Edit: plastic bags and preservatives replaced the bread box the same as smart phones have replaced the idea of an office environment. You do not need a workforce to clock in when everything is done on an app - except for physical manufacturing which is done where, again - and you do not need a physical business when you can do all of the things done in an office on an ap (by outsourcing to a business that supports your middle man position) and so the only thing phones have to fear is middle men in fighting.
They could do something to improve it. Here is an idea, make all new iphone phones come with internet included (not added as a plan) and workable from all over the world. That is a feature that, if implemented (somehow), will make me buy an iphone and finally switch from android.
@@jorgebernier5dYou think Apple is willing yo make that bet on creating the network infrastructure and pray that the revenue from the phone only will make them profits? Is there something else I'm missing?
I feel so lucky to have lived in a world where the blackberry and iPhone changed the world. So lucky I got to see that. Good times. It was exciting to see the innovations from all other manufacturers after the iPhone was announced.
I am more excited to see new android phones than apple. It's the same every year. The gap between android and iOS is decreasing every years, there will be a day where apple loses its competitive advantage.
@@kaito7132Apple does not have a competitive advantage. IPhone is literally worse on paper and in terms of functionality. Imagine buying a flagship tier phone and having Apple tell you what you're allowed to do with it...
I’ve had an iPhone since the iPhone 7 when it came out. I generally get a phone every couple years, and I don’t get the newest one. I jumped to the iPhone XS when the 11 was out because I broke my 7, and the XS to the 13 mini a couple months ago because my XS broke as well. But doing the jump between phones like this makes the improvements more noticeable. The XS didn’t have 4k 60 fps recording like my 13 mini has, as well as the hardware improvements, games just play so much better than my old phone. People shouldn’t get a new phone every year, I think ideally people should have a phone for at least 5 years or until it breaks beyond point of repair (repairing phones should be easier and cheaper tho)
That’s actually how it’s supposed to work. In my technician course we were advised that mobile devices are recommended to be upgraded every two to three years and computers every four to five years.
Ahahaha I have exactly the same phone change story. From 7 to XS to 13 mini, still wouldn’t mind using 7 or XS if they hadn’t have broken down, however I do love my 13 mini, it nicely fits in my hand and is so convenient to use, just like the good old iPhone 5s
@@fynkozari9271 I should’ve had a case on my iPhone 7 and there was nothing I could’ve done about the XS. I was in a scooter accident and a fell directly on the phone in my back pocket when I started tumbling to the ground
100% agree. I’ve been doing the same. Went from 4 to 7. Then from 7 to 11. Both times because the phones just reached the end of their lives. This definitely made the feature improvements much more noticeable. Still have my 11 and gonna wait another year or two before I upgrade again. Totally agree that repairs a d battery replacement needs to become normal.
I went from 7 plus, XR, 11 Pro max, 13 Pro Max, 15 pro max. The switch from 13 pro max to 15 pro max was barely a difference. Besides the island and supposedly longer battery life I’m not noticing the same amount of difference then from the 11 Pro Max to 13 Pro Max. Or the 7 plus to XR. Good phones regardless but I’d say waiting every 2-3 years between an upgrade is probably the best not only financially but Technicality standpoint.
Yeah I’ve realised the best thing to do it just to get air a while I went from a iPhone 7 Plus to a iPhone 12 and it was awesome and then jumped up to a 14 and it felt like nothing changed and I was so disappointed
every brand still does to an extent, it's just that now every other brand is "good enough" at what a given brand used to specialize in. there isn't really any one thing that can be greatly improved upon. the displays on just about every phone are nearing the point where the human eye will barely even notice upgrades, cameras are good enough for the average person, and most flagships, with the exception of the pixel phones, are powerful enough to be able to do just about anything you need them to. every core feature is as good as it realistically needs to be.
I've never believed Apple cares for the environment. When they took away chargers and made boxes smaller, I knew it was more profit for them and more expenses for us and that's why I refuse to make them richer 👍
They removed something that was far more impactful on earth then that Can you guess what it was? No phones have this capability anymore either but... you heard in this video Europe will make it mandatory again in the future. In all essence it actually was the best feature a phone could have but it was basically gone last high end mid range phone to have this feature before it went the way of the dinosaurs was actually the LG v20 I would know because I have the phone.. actually two of them haha but I don't use them anymore using an xperia
I cant guess. What is this feature? Edit: i guess you are talking about user replacable batteries. All galaxy xcover models has them. So does many other phones. And the specs of the latest xcover is on par with flagship models 2-3 years ago, and the price? ; about 1/3 of flagship models. Oh: and it's got the good'ol 3,5mm earphone jack as well.
@@suprlite Removable batteries With a spare you are not tied down to a cable or wireless charging which also uses a cable. You can charge the spare and go anywhere you want You can charge your spare battery at any speed you want really remember slower charging prolongs your battery life Since you are charging your spare battery outside your phone there will never be heat buildup inside your phone thus prolonging your phone which is great for environment If you charge your spare battery at a slower charge you prolong the battery life span and won't need another battery for longer period of time instead of just charging fast constantly on one battery. Since the phone uses removable it is already half opened basically so it makes it waaaay easier to open up. I could upon up my LGv20 is basically 4 minutes you just unscrew 20 philips head screws and that's it There are special phone cases you can buy for phones with removable batteries which lets you use much bigger battteries On my LGv20 I use two 8600mah batteries Which is way more then the current max we already have reached which is 6000mah on these newer phones released. So you could have a bigger battery on a smaller sized screen phone. The LGv20 is only 5.7 inches in length and packs a 8600mah battery. I could actually get a case that would have enabled me to use a whopping 10,000mah battery and have the phone still be small just more fatter. These are all the advantages you get with removable battery. Essential the fastest charging method to any phone period especially if you get two spare batteries you will never have to be tethered to any cable I assure you I currently am using the Xpreria 5 ll and this phone doesn't have a removable battery which I dearly dearly miss from my LGv20 I used before the Xperia. I love the Xperia 5 ll just greatly miss having a removable battery It is indeed the best feature off all time on any phone and greatly greatly helps the environment There's only so much resources out there we have to reserve it as much as possible and phones not having removable batteries is the worst thing on a smartphone you can have Plus we now can easily back everything up on the internet... so really... do we need IP68 rating phones anymore? I been using phones for over 20 years and have yet to drop my phone in any water. Either way let people decide if they want a IP68 rated phone or a phone with a removable battery I already know which version of phone I'll get LOL removable battery phone all day every day until I day
I have an iPhone 11 and don't feel the need to upgrade it any time soon. The 11 is a workhorse with enough storage and most of the features you get with todays phones, and if you take the case off and clean it up, you can really see the craftsmanship behind it and it will feel like a new phone again. Unless something breaks or apple decided to implement software to slow it down there really is no need for me to switch. I could see myself waiting until the iPhone 16 or 17 before I change to the newest model because the iPhones just work (until they don't lol)
@@idriveastationwagon1534the battery will just continue to get “worse.” I’ve had my 13 for a year, used smart charging the whole time, and already lost 10% “battery health.” Whatever that means. While the battery is still really good it doesn’t last all day like it used too. Planned obsolescence. Oh but at least I can get 800 bucks towards my 15 when I trade in my 13 🤡
I just upgraded from the 11 to the 14. Trust me when I say the 14 is so much better. My 11 started slowing down and the battery life started draining fast. I got my 11 in 2018-2019 and it was a well needed upgrade
I sold my 14 Pro the other day and am now using my sisters old iPhone 11 until the 15 Pro arrives, trust me, it's a huge difference between the 11 and newer iPhones
I can understand the discontentment regarding lack of progress with each model, seeing it as boring. However, I remember back 10 years when performance in smartphones blistered year by year and made phones rapidly obsolete. My iPhone 4, at 4 years of age, was begging for death. My current phone, the 11 Pro, at 4 years of age is still kicking. The stagnation meant I don't need to upgrade to a newer phone any time soon and I fortunately see that being recognised among my peers. I understand the US is very addicted to consumption, but that goes beyond iPhones or smartphones in general, so there are clearly two sides to this story.
That was me as well. I only upgraded my iPhone 8 after the lightning cable would literally fall off the charge port and the battery wouldn't even last half a day at full charge, the cost to repair it would exceed the cost of selling it. I then bought an iPhone 11 in 2022 and have no plans to change it in the near future, precisely because the jump in performance is so minimal
To be fair, I don't know why people expect every phone to be a massive change. Sure, if you go from the iPhone 13, to the 14, and then the 15, the changes are incremental, but if you go from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 15, the changes are pretty noticeable.
Not really, What are these changes? thats 9 years difference, in this lapse of time we have seen many more drastic changes in other companies. Apple has been one of the worst at improving things since Steve died.
@@TornadoOfSouls777I went from a 6s to a 13 mini and it was an absolute staggering difference in performance Battery isn’t any better but it’s nice having a good camera
apple should release iphones like once every 2-3 years where they actually have time to do major changes because back then they didn’t have to update stuff like ipads, air pods, watches, etc and an iphone every year is ridiculous at this point
Something to think about is the MicroSD card slot, notice how today barely any phones above the low-end ones have MicroSD slots. That's because for under $100 you can have double the storage instead of buying another phone or expensive cloud storage. And it's not saving internal space either, because Sony can fit BOTH a 3.5 mm jack AND a MicroSD slot in their compact Xperia 1 FLAGSHIPS WITH a 5000 mAH battery which is huge
I love the Xperia for literally being the actual Pro line of phones without calling themselves Pro, because the amount of control you get from them is actually good compared to apple where they say fuck you and robs you of your cash for "premium" materials as pro
@@tydshiin5783 Apple's Pro just gets you features most if not all other Android flagships have like the 120 Hz and USB-C 3 which are still missing from the normal 15 ☠️
Good point. I've argued with so many people who go "well nobody uses it anymore, you don't need it!" How can they be against OPTIONS. LIterally just options. You pay just as much as previous years for a flagship "premium phone" with less features.
There is still hardware innovation but only for the chips. I still think the new 3nm chip is insane with its 19 billion transistors in the chip. That is unfathomable. The ability to process AAA console games on an iPhone is really mindblowing. They are now focusing on efficiency I guess according to Moore’s law. Moore’s law suggests that computational progress will become significantly faster, smaller, and more efficient over time.
Yup, just because it looks the same doesn’t mean it is the same. But we are getting close to the limits of silicone based chips and we will need to transition in order to keep Moore’s law going.
@@Lynnfield3people care about battery life. The more efficient the chip, the better the battery life, as it uses less battery power to perform tasks.
I don’t think innovations dead I just don’t think there’s much more they can do to improve modern phones. I think they pretty much reach their pinnacle.
I bet the next innovation will be something like 3D hologram abilities. However I'm not in the loop so someone smarter than me, feel free to tell me this already exists 😂
Back in 05-06, I was watching G4tv, specifically Attack of the Show. The people were talking about smartphones and the host asked this guy what he thought the future of smartphones would look like. This guy said that the touch screen was the last big innovation when it comes to phones. He continued by saying something like, here on out we won't see physical changes anymore, but just upgrades to software. Here we are almost 20 years later and the phone I am typing this out on looks just like the smartphones back then, just a little bigger and more camera lenses.
And? A smartphone has a purpose and it fills that perfectly; it doesn't need 'constant innovations.' An innovation is going from old cellphones to TOUCH SCREEN; adding an extra button to an old cellphone is not innovation, so why do people consider multiple lenses an 'innovation?'
What gets me the most is the fact that Apple still makes a phone of at least 800 dollars with a 60Hz display…..like, that’s criminal in this day and age
But it's next product! Aren't you excited for next product? Not buying product and getting excited for next product is the wrong side of history and frankly transfatphobic. Yikes!
@@dnegel9546 Even the ultra low entry level Samsung 04e has a 60Hz screen at HD+ and runs Android 13 with upgradeability. That's just a USD129 device. What is Apple thinking?
@@SaigonBritThey're thinking that a very very very very large majority dont care about hz nor do they even know what 120hz means and hence the 15 will sell like butter anyways
I feel good about sticking with my 13 Pro Max. I'm sure the 15 lineup will be a great upgrade for those who need a new device. Gonna try to keep mine for another couple of years. Remember, last year's "best ever" phone hasn't changed just because a newer one has arrived. Last year's phone is still pretty awesome.
I feel like upgrading my 12 but only because the battery is starting to drop in life. I used to be able to watch YT for 8 hrs, now I only have 4. Tiktok fades my battery to 0% from full in less than 2 hours. And the charger is slow as shit, 50% in 2.5 hrs is nothing when I can waste it in half the time :/
If you think that Moon has told you all the bad things the iPhone has...just try to repair one,it's a nightmare fuel. It's a miracle that Apple didn't screw up with the Firmware Restoration and in fact,it's the most easy phone to restore compare to the Android's phone,that's the most easy thing you can do with the iPhone.
I worked with that for 5-6 years, I've seen every trick in the book they have applied to their devices. It's absolutely disgusting, and everyone else simply followed suit. Because nobody even tried to stop Apple to begin with. Only company in the EU to have 1 year warranty on their products, instead of the EU standard of 2 years for all electronics which every single other tech or electronic device company, has had to adhere to. But not Apple. They can circumvent continental laws and surpass national laws in 50 countries. How? Why? Corruption. That's the only answer.
when you say “restore” do you mean lay down a new OS onto a device or retrieve data from a backup? (coming from someone not familiar with phone repair)
I’m watching this video on my iPhone 8 Plus without any problems. The screen is big enough and it’s capable of taking pictures with pretty good quality.
@@Frank72364ya... I've got to say, this recent stuff sucked. This video is a huge stretch. Doesn't talk about the neural engine improvement, hardware ray tracing, apple version of dlss, etc. Apple added tons of upgrades, and at the end of the day, it's like expecting each new Nvidia gpu to change your life. It doesn't.... It just adds more performance.... Just like you'd expect.
I've been an Android user since I got rid of my iPhone 5 in 2014. My carrier was having a sale on the new iPhone 15 Pro, so I decided to get one because I've have been having some minor hardware issues with my S20 FE so I decided to get it. It was extremely sluggish, would stop loading webpages on 5G at totally random times, and the cameras suck.
All I wanna say is that I always know that your videos hit the spot, and bring new objective light on relevant topics. That is an insane achievement and I am sure I am not the only one who thinks this
The problem is that the lightening connector has fully saturated the market. For every iPhone there are probably 10 lightning cables. They’re everywhere, in every gas station, dollar store and junk drawer. By the time the majority upgrade to the 15 and all their charging cables, we’ll be on USB-D and all the old lightening cables will be in a landfill.
This is relatable? Just made a video about an iphone release? Why? Because it’s in the news cycle thats why! If you find this “Relatable” then your mental age has not surpassed 13 years kid 😒
I bought an S23+ 5 months ago despite considering the wait for the iPhone 15. There were too many things I could not give up with an android so I stuck through with my decision. The Apple event only secured my standing when I could see that there was nothing groundbreaking to incentivise the device. I still can't wrap my head around the fact that Apple is still going through with the 60hz screen on a high end flagship phone for their standard models despite the crazy pricing. My only takeaways from the event was usb-c, 3nm chip, and slightly better cameras. All their other 'innovations' are features that should have come to their phones 2-3 years prior.
@@mrdereksutton if we are strictly talking about their phones then iphone introduces multitouch and ios ui, iphone 3 has 3g, iphone 5 lightning cable, iphone 5s touch id. Of course, some of these features may not be strictly apple nor have they invented the listed innovations but they are one of the first to implement them. Throughout their phone generations there is clear incentive in upgrading to later phones for specific features. Of course, other competitors also have their innovations which apple has taken or given but the main takeaway is that these are features that pushed the phone market. Imo, apple currently lacks innovation as there is nothing that currently drives people to buy new phones in the saturated market. Apple used to be the ones driving the market, now they are playing it safe and slowly incrementing past features and presenting them as the 'new' innovations.
Cheapest doesn't mean it isn't a flagship, maybe take a trip to the google search bar for a definition because you probably need one. And I am not sure how my financial situation has anything to do with your argument considering that I bought an S23 which is a flagship phone within the same price range.
I've two iPhone that I carry around. One 8+ and one 14+. Except for the bigger screen I actually prefer the 8+. I much prefer the Touch ID over Face ID. I can just put my finger on the sensor to unlock without having to look at the phone and get distracted or have to take my phone out of my pocket. Other function wise, I really couldn't feel there is a big difference between the two.
While Samsung's out there releasing the fifth generation of their cutting-edge foldables, the most hyped Apple event this year is them adding USB-C to the iPhone15. AND its got a 60hz display in an era where even $200 phones have 90/120Hz displays. Pretty telling tbh.
Lol... and the USB-C was mandated by EU.... but it figures that Apple, the manipulative superficial mancihld that it is, spins it as "what an innovation." If a person did this stuff, they'd be an antisocial narcissistic wreck. Personally I think Apple has jumped the shark, and they're entering their ultimate decline. God, I hope so.
I like how they used to say that iPhones are the perfect size and you shouldn't buy a bigger phone. Eventually they just gave into making bigger phones
The perfect size imo was from 4-5, 6 and later models are fucking stupid large to the point that you'd need a purse to keep your phone Tbh I would not mind a modern smartphone with the size of the 4 or 5 with little to no bezels, thickness is whatever imo because thin phones just snap so easily
@@RawbLV I have considerably large hands and the 6&7 are too fucking big for me to hold comfortably 14 was too heavy to even hold for long periods plus damn impossible to use with one hand
Another factor worth mentioning is that as a product's technology grows, the time to revolutionize does too. One year isn't as significant when there is 15 phones under their belt, its the idea of relativity.
Switch to android after about 5 iPhone generation's. Couldn't be happier! The Back button is a game changer and I could never go back to a phone without it lol
What more is there to change? Smartphones have reached their peak, there's no advancing or innovation from here. MR headsets like the Vision Pro are the future.
The PC market is falling into the yearly release schedule as well and it's worrying to see. GPU's are still roughly once every half decade but CPU's are starting to become more and more frequent. Intel is already getting ready for 14th gen when 13th gen has BARELY even hit the 1 year mark. AMD is not as bad in this regard as they are still once every 3-4 years but I'd be surprised if this didn't start to speed up too in the near future, especially with intel already doing it now
Atleast the high end GPUs are offering a good performance upgrade over the previous one, but I think CPUs are starting to give diminishing returns, especially with intel
Yeah I made this comment 2 months ago before it was This is more about the pacing of hardware releases rather than naming conventions. That's another can of worms to get into
Thats because they throttle the releases, I bet they have 18gen cpus already.They aint gonna just release em, they ll sell a crap ton of small upgrades instead.
The most interesting thing is that they actually mentioned on stage that "iPhones keep their value over time"... which is damn true nowadays. I have only bought used iPhones, I only owned the 5s and the 7+. I've been keeping an eye out for so long exactly because since around the iPhone X it seems prices would never fall. I don't know if is because there are so many models out there, they inflated the lineup with "mid range" models, or it's because they support models much much longer than Android, but it's pretty ridiculous to see iPhone 8 still costing 150+ and the iPhone 13 Pro (which is what I wanted to upgrade to) costing pretty much the same as the entry iPhone 15. 2 gen behind and costs the same. Used!
It's really wild. Recently I was looking at some used phones to try something different besides my Zenfone 8. I check out used iPhones because I already own an iPad, and an used base model 12 was costing about the same as an used S21 ultra! On top of that, used 12 pro models were going for 50% more! I genuinely couldn't justify getting one, and I absolutely wasn't going to compromise on even older models.
fr compared to me being an android user, a year after release the price drops 50% and that's what I end up picking up, as much as I want to switch to iphone from friend group pressure. I've had great (and not so great, always make sure you can return a do a lot of nitpicking) experiences with buying used androids, and then I see used iphone prices. Sheeee
@@nari5161 I looked at buying used Androids, is very enticing getting last year or year prior top of the line Samsung for a midrange price... but the problem is that until this year they were extremely unreliable in terms of software support... really the strategy was to not update so people would update the phone (or maybe just cost cutting as most of the buyers just replace every 2 years). I can see lots of nice in Android, but at the same time I don't like Google, and at least Apple does less prying in your data/privacy. Pixel phones have been hit and miss, with one year the screen, another the battery being shit after first OS update... iPhones are quite a good pick: anything you get you know was top of the offering, you know pictures are gonna be top-3 good for the year of release standards.
Same with me. I’ve had my iPhone 11 Pro Max for a few years and I had plans to get the iPhone 14 pro max. I don’t know if I should get it or get the iPhone 15
@@TA-ht4jo Depends on whether you really want ProMotion and an always-on display. Those are the two main differences, so if those things don’t matter that much to you, I’d say get the 15.
9:27 HTC was the one to first implement multiple cameras in their smartphones. There's a repeated misconception that Apple is an innovator when there has been a plethora of evidence that the harp on design choices that other companies had done previous, but are overlooked simply because it wasn't on the Iphone yet.
This year I updated from a 12 to the 15 Pro Max. I feel it was a worthwhile update, love the bigger display and the slightly rounded edges do feel better in the hand. Personally I don't think an update every year is worthwhile but every 3-4 years is ok for me. I agree with the video in that we have reached the peak of the current technology, I don't think folding phones are the next step, probably longer lasting battery life for a phone would be great but next is the goggles, a different way we can interact with the technology. Phones will likely stay as hand held screen cameras.
@@culan_SCP People don't realise that Apple views their design as iconic. They're confident with their design language, and thus they are making only small adjustments to it every year, sometimes none at all , (cough) iPhone 14(cough). They release new colours to differentiate the newer model from the older ones. Titanium for the 15 Pros, Deep Purple for the 14 Pros, Sierra Blue for the 13 Pros (still really love that colour), Pacific Blue for the 12 Pros, and Midnight Green for the 11 Pros. And the colours overall have a different tone from model to model as for the Non-Pro models.
There’s enough change for me to make the upgrade. The bigger phone has better ergonomics for me, the 120hz is something I want, and I want that USB C port. The extra ram is neat too. I was hoping the 15 plus would have been worth getting, but it’s literally not worth getting.
The thing about apple is that since most people don’t get the newest iPhone every year, they can afford to only make marginal changes so when you do upgrade, those marginal improvements from year to year, it feels so much better
Exactly. So many people look at the new phone and are quick to compare it to last year's model, but the average person doesn't buy a new phone every year. iPhones tend to get software support for 6 years. While I'm sure that Apple would love for every customer to upgrade every year, people don't need to because their phones work just fine for far longer than that.
Marginal changes have been the name of the game since the beginning and that goes for pretty much everything in tech. We got the the OG iPhone, then we got 3G next, then that got a faster chip, then they bumped the screen resolution, then we got bigger screens, then we got more cameras and we every generation we also got faster chips. This applies to other manufacturers too. Things are still getting better over time but there is a point of diminishing returns. I don't know if people expect those devices to cure cancer or something next, but all that whining feels a bit off-putting.
I have had my XR for five years now which i think is a decent amount of time. Most people i know keep there iphones for years. I am going to updrade and get the iphone 15 this year though.
absolutely agree. switching from 5s (a legendary iPhone) to 8+ was great for me, and the next switch would probably be too. now what bothers me is then why even do this fancy september presentation? i haven't watched the live so maybe i'm in the wrong here but apple could easily announce the "new incrementally improved iPhone", say, at WWDC. it would save our time and call for less videos like the one we just watched. the backlash is absolutely understandable so why not switch things up...
as an old iphone 6s user i feel that was the breaking point for me. when i was finding my new phone i looked into iphone se and eleven. swiping the home from my 6s and an SE that was on display in a store felt surreal, same exact experience. i imagine that is the same when an XS user now tries to do that with this new phone. i escaped the cage.
Really good video. I've had the same phone for 6 years now. My friends have gone through 2 to 3 new phones during that time. They're pressuring me into buying a new phone as well. That's where I've drawn the line. I need a product that's going to last me, not be thrown away or discarded within a few years. It's disgusting how this practice is. I do give credit to Samsung for trying the flip and fold, but the prices are beyond what I would consider wallet friendly. One of my more personal disappointments with phones these days is the removal of expanded storage. Micro SD card space is not even a thing anymore you can add to new phones. It's quite a shame...
Not really, it's a bit annoying that he keeps emphasizing the nature of clout chasing of newer phones as if that's not a common occurrence across brands. Some people want to have the latest and greatest some people doesn't give a shit, let the people who want the latest and greatest that's their choice, you have yours, what's wrong with that? any brands does the same practice of releasing new phones every year, so why specifically call out only Apple? It's annoying when people tries to brag about getting new phones and shame on those people, it doesn't mean shit.
Very few phones still do that, I think the Samsung Galaxy A series still has them, but they are midrange phones, so the quality is only okay. But I do miss them too. 😢
I remember updating from an iphone 4 to a 6, and it was sleeker, faster, and had a way better battery. Nowadays I cling to my iphone 11 because I see no benefit to getting rid of it.
It was a great time to be back in 2010 and 2011 and 2012 which was the peak of smartphone technology every year we had major improvements over the previous models, To me it peaked at the Galaxy S3 such a beautifully designed phone.
we don't have improvements anymore because we don't need any. the average person uses their phones for messaging, social media, camera/photos, and maybe gaming or consuming movies/tv. displays are almost at the point where upgrades aren't even noticeable, cameras are good enough for anyone, processing power on any flagship is good enough for basically anything. there really isn't an area that needs more.
@@aidan8583 that's a very dump statemen and I'm sure a human being like doesn't have the brian capacity of a bug That's like saying " we don't need more upgrades because we can't benefit from them" But that is stupid, All hardware upgrades comes BEFORE software can utilize them For example when we made the jump from 720p to 1080p it was a big difference Most games were Stull using 720p but with time the 1080p became the standard
@@KingdomRepublic i didn't mean that there is zero benefit to upgrades, just that an upgrade such as 4k on an iphone display, for example, won't be incredibly noticeable to the average human eye. a lot has plateaued simply because we are almost at the point where upgrades are truly not noticeable. just like 30 to 60 frames is very noticeable, and so is 60 to 120, but the higher up you go the less you will notice the difference until eventually we get to the point where screens refresh faster than our eyes or brains can process. i would be very curious to know what you are so disappointed apple or other companies aren't doing.
This was exactly what I was thinking, thanks for putting out a full fledged video on the topic and making people more aware. I believe only 3 iPhones brought the big innovations to smartphones. iPhone 2G, first iPhone, iPhone 5s, with bringing biometric authentication and finally iPhone X, with current modern day smartphone design and package. I still use iPhone X bought it at launch. It is still a beast, its losing support with iOS 17. and with the iphone 15 pros launching today, i dont see a good reason to upgrade other than the camera or maybe the battery coz my phone gets charged with apple car play twice or thrice daily. so i dont have any battery issues. Most probably i would be keeping my iPhone X another year.
Same for me, still using my Iphone X but already had to replace the battery and screen. I would definitely keep my Phone if the camera would be better compared to the newer ones with night mode and so on.
totally with you on the iphone X. got it in Dec 2017 and it's still going strong. ok, its a bit laggy. but it never stopped working, all the pieces are original (nothing has been replaced) and it does the job. Maybe its time for an upgrade this year. but after 6 years, I think that's fair
@@richardswanson7826 That's how it should be though! I feel like an upgrade for a phone is warranted after 3+ years (3 being sooner rather than later) On average I'd say 4-6 years is reasonable
I have an x and i upgraded the battery to a 3200mah one and my phone now lasts all day. Literally with heavy use. And by heavy use i mean im on youtube and tiktok all day. I like this phone so I’ll probably pick up a XS for cheap.
i used a note 4 for 5 years and you could open the back with your hands, without needing any tools. i carried 1 more charged battery so if my battery died, i could just open the back and put the fully charged one. never had to change any part of it because it was good quality, but i think if i ever wanted to it wouldnt be a problem. its not my main phone anymore, but it still works great, no lag no nothing, still compatible with most apps.
I just upgraded from an IPhone 7+ I rocked for five years to the iPhone 14 Pro and WOW I will say it feels like a major improvement. I love waiting a couple years because the improvements feel significant
@@LlamasAreBest I don’t understand your obsession with the newest gadget in a 15 or how you think I paid the same price for it. You can tone the patronizing down homie.
@@AverageVideoGameJoe If you buy a year old iPhone a 2 weeks before the launch of the new one, you are an idiot. I don't care what you say or your excuse.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees this. I’ve been using the base iPhone 13 every day for the past two years and every release since then has been uneventful other than the cameras getting bigger and dynamic island. The iPhone 13 still feels very modern and up to date, despite now being two releases behind.
I think the iPhone 11-12 was the last decent upgrade. It bought, 5G, an OLED screen, much better battery, thinner bezels, new chip, and new edged corners.
0:30 correction, the USA, not the world. Android makes up 60-70% of the world's phones. Apple does have a majority in the USA, but definitely not the world.
As someone who uses the iPhone as one of my main cameras for my videos, the small incremental upgrades to the cameras video performance from generation to generation have been a great boost to me personally as for the rest of the iPhone, since the iPhone 11, its basically been the same since.
Yep thats because iphone 11 and iphone 14 is just refinement period. 15 was the a small leap in camera because of the other phones are already offering this, so I strongly believe the 8th or 9th are the best phones within each generation as refinement is over and now its the next technology advancement. However Apple and other phone companies know this so they arent adding 8-9 years of support on a phone because hardly anyone would switch from their phones.
You should use android cameras, then iphone later. Android right now has top of the line cameras, but apple only has 48 mp vs samsung's 200 mp. Ik mp isnt the only factor, but apple has to pretend like they made a change every year by gradually incrementing the camera performance, so just stick with android right now. But don't if you don't have the budget
@Kingcommaalex no it doesn't. Samsung has better video and photos (better audio better Zoom better ultra wide better stabilization better quality better portrait) etc
The video is absolutely correct, but my question is 'what did you expect?'. The smartphone went mainstream around 2008-2009 and the market grew rapidly, the product category is now 15ish years old, no wonder new releases are minuscule improvements. Steve Jobs himself said that a product category tends to stall after the first 10 years of development. Even innovative tech like foldables is not really a game changer, except for internet personalities, almost every single person I've ever come across irl that has a foldable tends to admit it is a total gimmick and for their next phone they will switch back. Honestly the market has finally reached the point of not being worth upgrading every single year, maybe the idiots that have to get the newest, greatest thing will actually use their phone until it's dead.
I would expect them to maybe allow sideling, landscape mode on the home screen which they've got rid of ever since they introduced the notch, expandable storage, to bring back the headphone jack, a desktop mode
Foldables feel like that because they are not there yet. Unless you eliminate the crease and make a screen that can be strong like a glass screen then it will feel like a gimmick because it is too sensitive and has a clear annoying flaw. There are many way to innovate though but manufactures just stopped and only do what is most profitable. Remember how many phones tried different things to eliminate the on the screen camera at first when screen because the full face of the phone? So many innovate things with plenty working great yet everything stopped because they discovered they could still sell just fine by having a hole on the screen.
@@15wwe15weird. I stream lossless audio on my iphone 7 and the battery still lasts very long. I never do system updates, though, I think that's the key.
Same here, upgraded last year and before that it was 2018, before that 2014. A few of my friends always get excited and text in our group chat during every apple event lol, it’s absolute peak cringe “consoomer” culture
9:17 HTC EVO 3D and LG Optimus 3D were the first smartphones with two cameras all the way back in 2011, but it wasn't until the iPhone 7 Plus came out in 2016 that Apple started the dual camera trend.
I think a huge reason why most upgrade yearly is the phones slow down over time, or at least people feel like their phone is slowing down in just under a year so they upgrade for the thought of a new phone running at 100% speed
@@honkhonk8009 They still slow it down since every update brings heavier demands but not as much. If you buy a really low end Samsung it stars working fine and it becomes painfully slow after 2-3 years.
To be fair, when I had my iPhone 6 for a few years it got slow as hell, to the point where I literally had to wait 20-30 seconds just to open whatsapp (and I am not exaggerating either, literally measured it with a stopwatch). Ever since then I've been traumatized of getting a new iPhone, however I've now been rocking an iPhone 11 for the past 4 years and tbh I can't say it slowed down significantly since the first day I got it. And thats with tons of new updates. Gotta say, Apple got their shit together.
@@mintheman7 The thing is, even when they rolled out that update to be able to disable the CPU throttling, my phone was still that slow. So yes, they still "got their shit together", because the phone slowing down went beyond the questionable cpu throttling practice they did
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epic video
I love the EU for really hammering down on apple and the other phone companies for there wasteful behaviours it’s a great step in the right direction.
I'm not pro-EU to say the least, but I'm on their side with this.
the EU overall is still a bit of an asshole.
@@HBSDU54 Everything should be at the newest USB level purely for consumer convenience
That's like the one good thing about the EU
Wasteful 😂 Jesus sound like that global warming freak 😂
Thanks for mentioning that there is no need for a new phone release every year
@@joeyn.3567 They release new phone every year then start taking down and discontinuing the older ones. And yes, to pressure us into buying their new products cuz the older ones are "outdated".
Other brands does that even more often. Your phone gets obsolete very 6 months or so
@@sgxmp8565 bro i still have an iphone 8. infact many people still use very old iphones. And if it no longer supports updates then its still fine. as long as it still do basic things well thats all it really matters just dont go on shady websites on your phone.
You know if you showed me a Iphone 12 or a Iphone 15, i would be fooled to think it is one or the other. Only geeks know the difference. This is how simular they look 😄
I still have an iphone 7🤷🏼♂️slow but still works for me
the regular models still being 60hz and some 200 dollar samsung phones having 120hz from 5 years ago is insane
Nothing new, they’ve been peddling hobbled gear for decades.
Cause if they added 120Hz then no way ppls will buy the Pro series 🤷💀💀
shhhhh! iFools will be mad at you😂
It will remain that way till 2026
Don't forget the USB-C, it's the same as $200 dollar budget phones
That “Mother Nature” ad oozed so much corporate poison that I passed out and woke up in a suit and tie in a cubicle.
i saw a comment on a solar punk video and its so incredibly true "for the success of solar punk, the abolition of the wrongs of capitalism is very important"
It’s so cringey I almost fell from my chair laughing
😂😂😂
Thought it's a parody at first.
when you compare it to their usual ads which are all cookie cutter ads that anyone can make, I think its a nice change of pace ngl.
These upgrades are only underwhelming if you buy one every year. Ideally, you should be using your phone for at least 3 years or more. I have the 12 Mini since 2020 and it’s still rocking great.
Still got my iPhone XR after 4 years and it’s still working good so I’mma continue using it for a another year or two
It's easier to undermine changes then it is to understand them. Iphone can support ray tracing now, has a significantly imporved camera, and improved battery life. what more do people want?
I got the XR. Bought in 2018 and it’s still kicking ! 😂
Exactly, I have the normal 12 and it still feels like a new phone
@@funnyberries4017lol isheep
The reason Apple and all other smartphone companies don't seem to be innovating anymore is rather simple, phones are a mature market. As you said, there's only so much you can shove into a glass slab before there's not much else that can be improved. Nowadays, it's mostly software that you will see updates in with very marginal upgrades to the hardware. Even cameras don't receive significant hardware upgrades because they're limited by size, they'll instead be improved through improvements in image processing. You shouldn't be worried about how these companies "don't innovate" because they're making drastic improvements in software, and people don't buy phones that much anymore because it's sort of like buying a car. You don't buy a car every year, but once you do buy a car after a few generations and revisions, you will see those improvements. That's what sort of market the iPhone is in now.
However, back on topic, you should be concerned with how much they are willing to push software and how much it will integrate and act as a parasite on our lives. These companies will of course seek to occupy and obtain as much information about you through software, and they will absolutely have all the information they could possibly ever want with VR sets.
Finally someone that understands that people don’t buy iPhones every year rather 5 or later
All good points. The Double tap gesture on the new Apple Watch is a good example of that. Combining blood flow patterns and what not in order to know what you’re doing with your fingers is just a glimpse of what’s coming. I welcome these technologies though, not that I have a choice 😅
Except we see godly innovation in the Android Market lol. How does Apple's boots taste like?
@@dylancounte1448 You can enjoy the content of this channel and still have your own thoughts. I agree with a lot of what Moon says, but I disagree with a lot of it too. Don’t put yourself or anybody into a box. I reject modern society and live a fully self sustainable life, make my own energy and food, yet I enjoy technology and create AR training simulators for the US department of defense.
Wow life is gonna be scary 😂 all of us being monitored yikes
If Repairability was more a factor in product design, then we would see people using their devices for YEARS and not months.
They don't want you using 1 product for years, they want your product to die so you have to buy another one. Its called intended obsolescence
people do use their the devices for years. A lot of years.
Thats exactly what they dont want, they want their phones to last maximum a year so you have to buy a new one each year.
I have a Fairphone. It has a 5 year guarantee and it's modular. So when my battery starts to become worse I can simply buy a new one and pop it in. Costs like €30
@@TRIF0RCE Do they? Then why do they work so well for so long? I am still rocking my iPhone X for 4+ years now.
That’s because you’re not supposed to be upgrading your phone every year. I’m on a 3 year upgrade cycle, and it works perfectly. Year 1 - Newest phone, Year 2 - Still pretty new, Year 3 - Getting a bit old might be worth an upgrade, Year 4 - New phone. You’re all just sucked into this idea of needing something new as soon as it comes out.
Exactly. Those who are buying new phones as soon as they are released for the full price are those getting screwed. I'd rather wait one year or so and buy a used/refurbished one.
Bro, if anybody is smart enough to understand, Apple releases the phone every eight months go on Wikipedia I noticed this years ago. I just never said nothing to nobody. They’ve been robbing people people are stupid enough to do this shit.
I also change iphones ever 4 years
Fax. Its wrong to blame apple or any other phone company for simple coming out with a better and improved product every year. The people are the ones that are materialistic and obsessed with status and simply need to have a new phone every year. Im also on 3-4 year upgrade cycle and my "old" iphone 12 still works perfectly fine to the point that I still dont really NEED a replacement.
You wouldn't blame alcohol drink company if someone caused a crash under influence, you'll blame the person who willingly consumed alcohol and sat behind the wheel
I change mine only when the old one becomes too slow or its battery dies down enough that it's just useless.
One correction: Apple was not the first company to produce a phone with 2 cameras. LG Optimus 3D and HTC EVO 3D both came out in 2011 with dual cameras. There are lots of innovations that apple was late to adopt and that other phone companies had on their phones years before Apple did. Lots of people hold on to having iPhones because they don't want to get used to a new system and, as you mentioned, because of the FOMO.
Lol
One correction? The video was littered with inaccuracies.
Sorry, but these phones were just gimmicks. Other than the multiple lenses on the iPhone 7 Plus, this 3D feature hasn't become a trend.
"Lots of people hold on to having iPhones because they don't want to get used to a new system". Oh wait, is that that millions of people around the world do with Windows? Whoops, we never hear of this, apparently. Junkies have been buying Windows for 25 years, hating every version, but still buy it, because they are used to it? Windows being late adding features? That's how Windows operates, being late. And when they finally do it (if they do), they do it wrong, usually.
idiots always think apple are the first to innovate when they're actually late to the party with everything
I still use my iPhone 6+. Battery finally went out 2 years ago, and I replaced it myself for 20 bucks. I like the slim design and rounded edges, and all the apps still work fine. Camera takes good pictures, and cellular/data transfers are good. Never felt the phone was "slow" Why change? Maybe when iPhone 16 comes out next year, I'll upgrade; then I'll have a 10-phone upgrade span.
Downgrade imo
This should be the benchmark of praise
It won't be 10 phones
I kept my 6S for so long, but the battery was going down when it was plugged in so I had to upgrade.
I have a 6s and I agree with everything you said except camera taking good pictures. In fact that's my sole reason behind the urge to upgrade, for years.
For someone like me who buys an iPhone every 7 years I can safely say I see innovation when I buy a new phone. I think for those that buy the newest phone every year they’re the ones getting screwed.
comment makes sense only if they are using for longer period
You are right in your case you buy phone after 7 years so you are definitely going to experience a change but we are talking about phones in general
Yep. I’ve only had three. A 4, a 6 and now a 12.
I only replace them when they break irreparably. When did people stop treating their possessions like that?
hah, rookie numbers, i have a 2017 oppo f5 on android 7 with a dent on the back and a crack on the screen, it is a midranger running on android 7 lmao
@@TesterAnimal1 People that buy cheap Android phones still treat them like that, for example my everyday phone is a 3 year old 250 euro Android phone and i'll definitely use it at the least for another year.
IPhones though are more like a brand thing. Like you don't want to appear with last years Gucci bag kind of thing. So for many it became just a show off which is why is important to always get the latest model and they feel disappointed if not enough innovation was put in it because they feel obliged to buy it anyway.
I stopped buying any Apple products years ago and will never go back.
I never bite into the Apple brand.
Why?
All phone companies have this problem. Phones themselves are the problem more than anything, not Apple. This isn’t to say they arent leading the herd though.
@@blacklyfe5543 It's very simple for me. I don't think I need a phone this expensive
Same here. I left after iphone 7+ and the battery taking a dump. In only 1 1/2 yrs. Thats some bs. I said f that and never went back.
Back when we started having cell phones, a person may have forgotten to charge the phone at night, and we would swap the battery with someone else in the household, while the uncharged battery gets charged. It was so convenient. Almost as convenient as 0 to 100% charge in 45 minutes.
well im still young but i still remember like 7years ago i thought front facing speakers were the greatest innovation to entertainment consumption and then here we are now where we have holes in our screens..... f*ck iphone and f*ck those sheeps who keeps buying them
Not really.
Not at all, don't forget at the time we don't have such fancy connections, everytime switching the battery we had to set date and time manually
More like 0% to 100% in 30 seconds by swapping the battery😅
The good old days are gone 😢
dude, if that's really what's upsetting you then buy a power bank wtf, they are super cheap
Apple is the embodiment of Tyler Durden's quote "We work jobs we hate to buy things we don't need, and the things you own, will end up owning you"
Nobody is forcing you to upgrade every year.
@@aryan-ud1lwstop crying
@@aryan-ud1lwindian😂
@@left4deadRwhat was that all about?
@@davidw9468 "and yet buy it anyway"
said from someone who never own an iphone before. Feels like owning a gaming laptop
Imagine a world where you could seamlessly swap out select phone parts like you could do your home/ office computer... now thats the dream repairability.
It’s called fairphone. look it up.
It is possible with other brands
Sounds good doesn't work There was an attempt (project Ara) but it never flew very far
@@alexeyklyshnikov7145 Project Ara was not just an "attempt". It was supposed to be the future of smartphones, google killed it because they were coming out with the pixel lineup of phones. It is more profitable to sell people a whole new phone then to only be able to sell individual parts hence why it was killed in favor of the pixel phone series, it does work its just nearly impossible to exist in a corporate environment.
Even if that’s true, the support of software updates will only get you so far…
I upgraded from iPhone 7 to Fold5… back to android and I don’t have any regrets and at least I can tell the difference between a single screen and one that’s substantially wider when opened up… I don’t see myself going back to Apple.
how the battery for the flip5?
@@xitoroman I don't have the 5, but I have the fold 3. With constant use from 100%, even now almost 4 years later, still lasts about 6 hours before getting the 15% charge warning. Depending on what im doing anyways. If im having youtube in a side window while doing other tasks, it can last shorter, maybe around 4-5 hours of constant use.
@@xitoroman Fold5 battery is actually good, easily lasts a day
Upgraded from xr to fold5 and idk why I didnt do it sooner. My friends and fam and even coworkers all hate me for being the only one with an android because of green bubbles and no imessage lol
Worst phone I have ever owned. Photos suck. Thing overheats. Reception is horrible--worse than 2009 era phones. Thick, heavy and does NOTHING absolutely NOTHING better than the past phone I had which was an 11. So sorry I bought this piece of garbage.
Mobile phone technology has almost reach its peak level, this is why there’s only little improvements every year…and that’s why you want to upgrade every 3-5 years intervals to really see a major change.
Not true. The chips will continue to get faster. Higher refresh displays. Higher res speakers. Longer lasting battery life and health. Faster charging. Better camera.
There is much room for improvement.
@@kiavaxxaskew yea all we really need is higher battery life.
battery lives are TRASH to this day.
@@kiavaxxaskew It's kinda crazy though, because for people like me who dont game or do anything super intense, we just want to be able to watch HD video, and seamlessly multitask between apps. This always seems to work pretty well for the first year or so, then they all get slow like always. I wouldnt be surprised if there was more throttling going on than we know.
@@heyjeySigmabattery life+gpu+removable ssd.
In terms of technology , the cellphone that comes out in 2023 is basically something they could have put out 10 years earlier .
If its a great mobile phone as they always claimed everytime they release a new one, then it should have lasted at least 10 years. But nope, you need to get a new one 1-2 years later.
So we definitely reached peak smartphone- and honestly I think thats fine. Eg. Laptops also have small performance updates each year. I think this is an opportunity to put less resources into the iphone and more into new products
No. Iphone 15 for 800$ is still only on 60hz!! Apple is just looting people at that price with such ridiculously low specs
When comes to specification, I think smartphone company is going backwards.
They keep removing stuff like external memory card, headphone jack and stuck from punch hole.
I think 2018-2019 is the best year of smartphone for low price while having best features
Thank god removing headphone jacks isnt a norm. Apple is fucking insane.
@@four-en-tee It is a norm tho? Most phones dont have headphone jacks anymore lol
Thatd be nice, always gotta get those shareholders ever increasing profits.
What did you expect? Apple changed its leadership from innovator to sales specialist. More streamlined corporate supply focused, less breakthrough innovation rebels. Apple's shareholders are quite happy.
innovation? selling same chinese iphone with new name apple sucks no wonder why apple users are poor ans why apple is rich because exist stupid people like you belive in apple 😅
Absolutely true. I worked for them in retail and the change after Jobs died was TRULY felt. They wanted to become this "luxury brand" when they released the Apple Watch. They really used to be cool, their system was great and very open in the 2000's. Now it's just idiot proof stuff for the mass market for a ridiculous price.
@@NiGHTSaturnI dunno. I have the Hermès Series 8, and it’s pretty luxury. Love the leather band and faces. It looks like a legit watch.
It worked for them last 10 years or so, though
I don't mean it's good for consumer or anything. Just saying that it's not surprising and was very predictable.
If not release of Apple Silicon in MacBooks, Apple had all the chances to repeat the history of Nokia with it's Symbian OS.
If people keep buying, the vicious cycle will never end.@@NiGHTSaturn
Watching this was cray, eye opening actually. You did such a great job at capturing and stating your points. Great video.
moon, you are crazy! it was released earlier this day and you already have a 12 minute video essay on it! high quality too! stock footage, audio, everything!
Lol, if you think this is high quality.....
It's shiny editing, with 30 seconds of research. Most of the content is his standard "everything sucks, people are too poor to afford stuff". Never mind 10% of the country has over a million in assets, and the top 20% drive most spending, he focuses on how terrible everything is because it's just a way to cater to his audience by complaining about everything.
New phones that Apple releases are purely for the chip and the camera. The new chip is amazing. Console level graphics (ps3-ps4), hardware ray tracing, Nvidia level dlss, just to name a few new features. He obviously doesn't understand chips because this is huge. Every apple chip is a cutting edge marvel. But ya, if you don't push your phone to the limit, of course it doesn't feel like an upgrade. It's like giving your grandma an rtx 4090. Of course she won't notice.
@@Tential1 Man i'm just impressed it's $899 and not over $1200
@@Tential1Be gone Apple bot
@@swamp1138Why should he be gone? Say something useful because you’re acting like a bot.
Lolol you’re miserable and confused?
The people that buy a new iPhone every year are the same people that make $16 an hour but wear Gucci shirts and Air Jordan’s. Stop caring what strangers think about you and you’ll be a lot happier.
👍👍👍💯
apple fanboys are the absolute worst, and fake af
no matter what slop they dump in the trough, Apple Fanboys will eat it.
laptop class laptop classing
Howard stern is worth 600 million and buys every new iPhone, u don’t know what u talking bout kid
Social media made everything boring. Nothing is a surprise anymore since we all know and have the same information in pretty much real time. Can’t even show anyone a video without them saying that they’ve already seen it
That’s always the end result of social conformity.
So true
We need a 30 day worldwide total shutdown of the internet to break the trance. With one exception for videos of Ranmaru the Shiba.
The internet, you f00l. Social media is using your real identity on social platforms, which is why TH-cam and Reddit aren't really social media. Facebook, Instagram, snapchat, and tiktok are, because you post your real identity or photos of you and videos of you
@@pyropulseIXXI "Social media refers to the means of interactions among people in which they create, share, and/or exchange information and ideas in virtual communities and networks."
It has nothing to do with using your real identity or not you idiot. People use fake identity on snapchat, tiktok, instagram, etc, and people use real identity and post videos of themselves on TH-cam and reddit. There is no difference between these sites. They are all social media
It's not just the planned obsolescence, but the active combating against reparability. When they don't want you repairing your device but instead to buy a new one, it makes all "we've done this for the environment" claim ring hollow.
Oh, are you talking about the only company in the industry with a self-repair program. That's about to be expanded to Europe. Or are you referring to the company that totally redesigned iPhone Pro line and regular line to make them easier to repair. Either follow the tech or retire that silly reparability nonsense.
@@bruxi78230 iPhone and easier to repair, terms that do not belong together. I'll believe it only when I see it.
@@bruxi78230 what kind of BS are you talking? Apple clearly isnt the only company with an self repair program bruh. and how did they make the new iphones more repairable?
@@Oxide53115 ---- It's funny when a BSer (you) calls me for commenting BS, but then conveniently forgets to publish which other company has a self-repair program. Which excuse was it; ignorance or hallucination?
They made numerous changes on the interior of the phones to make them easier to repair. Next phone the 16 will have another improvement which involves wrapping the battery in a metal shell and new higher density battery. Also since I commented they extended the program to another continent.
@@bruxi78230 my excuse or mistake was thinking you could do some research for yourself, with you know Google....
but if you cant do an simple search, its Samsung ofcoarse and microsoft. why you calling me an BS,er when i was telling the truth and you werent?
Has anyone ever considered that the shape and features of "smartphones", regardless of it being Apple's, has reached it's peak? And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Future iterations DO NOT necessarily have to be drastically different in size/shape than its predecessors.
YES
Which means you don’t need to pay more and more for less and less upgrades when you were getting more upgrades for fewer more bucks back in the days
@@mahee96 I’m not making a commercial argument, only a logical one
@@fnanfne I too am speaking about practicality because if Android phones can provide upto 120 watts safe fast charging, 6000+ mah (in 6.7 inch smartphones), USB 3 transfer speeds for phones from 3-5 years ago, what is the cost of increase in price adding upto consumer’s advantage?
I do understand apple uses high grade components and hence the high price point, but less or not much upgrade but $200+ increases in price doesn’t make much sense.
I have used Androids in the past and moved to Iphone for iOS SW development but to be frank my 5 year old mobile having 4000mah used to last longer than 3200mah in my current iphone 14 pro
I am power user/SW engg, so my usage might be bit heavy.
I too support that sometimes break through changes aren’t required and sustaining is better but increase in price for minor upgrade is basically like saying we raised prices due to inflation 😅
@@mahee96 But the thing is, we aren't paying more and more. The price of the "pro" iPhones has stayed at $999 since 2017. Considering inflation, the price has in fact reduced over time.
Back in early 2007 when Apple announced the iPhone I was super skeptical about their claim that it would be a game changer. Although not the first, Apple pushed smartphone innovation forward. But there's only so much you can do when with a device that has matured. Year-to-year improvements are more incremental now.
That last sentence is so true. It's why there's no point in upgrading every year. 3 years and it feels like a true upgrade y'know? It doesn't help that if Samsung or Apple skipped annual releases then their stock would plummet.
damn , i was just born in 2007
I can't believe you're 16 now... I'm serious. I can't believe it........ And just in 2 years you'll be 18 which is even more unbelievable. And then look at iPhone 17 maybe and compare it to first iPhone. Does it worth?...@@UnknownXVN
Thanks for this message. At last, someone who understands. You can't innovate indefinitely. But imagine the engineers working at Apple who need their paycheck to feed their families.
@@octolockg5059Luckily nobody forces anyone to buy a new phone every year. I just upgraded from 4+ years old OnePlus 7 Pro and the upgrade felt pretty significant. No more lag, better camera, better battery life, a lot brighter screen. Everything I could hope for.
What else do people expect to have in a phone to call it innovative? Only thing I want is under display front camera so I can finally get a new phone with no notch or anything like that, but until then, what's wrong with incremental upgrades? Like people are fast to criticize the manufacturers and the industry as a whole, but never come up with any half-decent idea on how to upgrade the devices.
People crack me up going out and buying the newest IPhone without know a darn thing about it
It would be funny if it weren't so damn pathetic.
They still believe that owning an iPhone is some kind of a status symbol.
Fomo gets 99% of us
@@deadnorth8648 Why??? Did someone install faulty software in humans?
@@deadnorth8648
I am the 1% I guess.
I use a phone for 5-6 years then upgrade and the upgrade is very noticeable. 🤷🏽♂️
Still using an Iphone SE 1st gen. 8 years later still the best phone I've owned.
Yep, i loved it also very much, but the 12 and especially 13 Mini made it pretty obsolete to be honest.
Im still using the 2016 SE, but its exclusively used as mp3 player (3,5mm jack, so nice!) and for jailbreak things. Replaced even recently the battery the 2nd time for at least 1-2 more years of usability, the first replacement battery was already at like 30-40% health and drained very fast.
My daily driver is the iPhone 12 Mini. Not much bigger, yet so much more potent than the old, nice SE. At first, especially the protruding lens bump was just horrible, but now knowing the camera bump of the iPhone 15, i began to love my 12 Mini more than before the iPhone 15.
I have gen 2
Man hats off to you
Buying something to impress people is literally the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. I’m not spending 1 cent to impress anybody. I buy things that I like.
Not me I want to impress people and not look like a strange person what ever the world buys so will i and so will you
hurts my eyes. It causes a headache from PWM. Eye damaging.
People out here buying cringe Stanley mugs like dudes, they have lead in them why are you drinking out of a water bottle where the water is exposed to lead?
Edit: lol you don't really need more than a 100 dollar phone for anything (if you buy used of course, even buying new you can do the same thing with 200 dollar phones) because all people use their phones for nowadays is screaming into tiktok and holding their phones upside down thinking it gets them internet points or something.
@user-wt4ql4kr1w bro is a professional sheep. Trend follows like u are actual NPCs (I hate that term but this is the literal definition of one)
Thats it!
I buy a iPhone every 5 years definitely will notice innovation when you stick with your tech for that long 😂
i went from 8+ to 15 pro max and it's not as impressive as its sound
5 years is nothing at all
@@AmicusAdastrai went from 15 pro to s24u was not really impressed i should have bought nothing
@@fabricliver Yeah, nothing meaningful changed basically since the iPhone 5s (introduction of Touch ID). I have the first SE still in use sometimes. It does basically everything that you need from a modern smartphone.
@@AmicusAdastrahow?
Somebody needs to make a supercut of all these iPhone presentations because it’s always the same dialogue 😅
I’m pretty sure everyone waits like three to five years to buy a new iPhone, and in those five to three years there’s a big difference between your old phone and the latest iPhone
Agree
My first phone was an IPhone X and I waited four years for the 14 pro and now I’m gonna wait 6 years for the 20 and then for the rest of my life every ten years
My iPhone X is now 6 years old and I could keep it for even longer. So I'd say their products actually last a long time. Same goes for my MacBook Pro. It is now 8 years old and still in good condition and fast enough for office work and surfing.
My X is great. New battery, new glass back. Look and feels modern. Need to upgrade though because no more support for it
Apple is gearing up for the Vision Pro to be the big product they innovate on and I predict it will be a huge product in 2-3 years. If you think about it, the Smart Phone really doesn't have much more that can be added or improved upon, except incremental speed boosts, camera upgrades, and software upgrades. The only thing they have yet to do is make a foldable iPhone, but that may never happen. We will see.
The future is them putting technology in us.
That's easy to say now (regarding Iphone), until there's something done on the Iphone that we havent yet thought we "needed"
Bread boxes.
Edit: plastic bags and preservatives replaced the bread box the same as smart phones have replaced the idea of an office environment.
You do not need a workforce to clock in when everything is done on an app - except for physical manufacturing which is done where, again - and you do not need a physical business when you can do all of the things done in an office on an ap (by outsourcing to a business that supports your middle man position) and so the only thing phones have to fear is middle men in fighting.
They could do something to improve it. Here is an idea, make all new iphone phones come with internet included (not added as a plan) and workable from all over the world. That is a feature that, if implemented (somehow), will make me buy an iphone and finally switch from android.
@@jorgebernier5dYou think Apple is willing yo make that bet on creating the network infrastructure and pray that the revenue from the phone only will make them profits?
Is there something else I'm missing?
I love how it’s the norm that phones are over $1000 now.
Sarcasm, right?
its only in the US though. It cost over 1500$ or more in other countries
Steve Jobs said he wanted iPhones to cost $100
@@levelfuel3650 Bro that’s crazy. 1500$ for a iPhone 😢
You mean Samsungs?
I had a phone with a touchscreen, internet browser, e-mail, gps and navigation software in 2003! Apple was not the first. No way.
Which phone
So what phone was it?
@@1fitnesstube Motorola A780
@Tyler_18_ a780 from motorola. It says 2004 so not 2003.
Tim thinks he's cooking, but irl, he is not
based fax
he burnt the meal
I feel so lucky to have lived in a world where the blackberry and iPhone changed the world. So lucky I got to see that. Good times. It was exciting to see the innovations from all other manufacturers after the iPhone was announced.
I am more excited to see new android phones than apple. It's the same every year. The gap between android and iOS is decreasing every years, there will be a day where apple loses its competitive advantage.
@@kelsormjaquandon’t be a crybaby.
You hate environmentalists and yet you’re talking about living change and innovation? You are such a liar.
@@kaito7132 I'd say the gap is increasing - but it's Android phones that are ahead of Apple :)
@@kaito7132Apple does not have a competitive advantage. IPhone is literally worse on paper and in terms of functionality. Imagine buying a flagship tier phone and having Apple tell you what you're allowed to do with it...
I’ve had an iPhone since the iPhone 7 when it came out. I generally get a phone every couple years, and I don’t get the newest one. I jumped to the iPhone XS when the 11 was out because I broke my 7, and the XS to the 13 mini a couple months ago because my XS broke as well. But doing the jump between phones like this makes the improvements more noticeable. The XS didn’t have 4k 60 fps recording like my 13 mini has, as well as the hardware improvements, games just play so much better than my old phone. People shouldn’t get a new phone every year, I think ideally people should have a phone for at least 5 years or until it breaks beyond point of repair (repairing phones should be easier and cheaper tho)
That’s actually how it’s supposed to work. In my technician course we were advised that mobile devices are recommended to be upgraded every two to three years and computers every four to five years.
So are u just a clumsy person? Iphone has no quality? My Oneplus 5T is almost 5 years.
Ahahaha I have exactly the same phone change story. From 7 to XS to 13 mini, still wouldn’t mind using 7 or XS if they hadn’t have broken down, however I do love my 13 mini, it nicely fits in my hand and is so convenient to use, just like the good old iPhone 5s
@@fynkozari9271 I should’ve had a case on my iPhone 7 and there was nothing I could’ve done about the XS. I was in a scooter accident and a fell directly on the phone in my back pocket when I started tumbling to the ground
100% agree. I’ve been doing the same. Went from 4 to 7. Then from 7 to 11. Both times because the phones just reached the end of their lives. This definitely made the feature improvements much more noticeable. Still have my 11 and gonna wait another year or two before I upgrade again. Totally agree that repairs a d battery replacement needs to become normal.
I went from 7 plus, XR, 11 Pro max, 13 Pro Max, 15 pro max. The switch from 13 pro max to 15 pro max was barely a difference. Besides the island and supposedly longer battery life I’m not noticing the same amount of difference then from the 11 Pro Max to 13 Pro Max. Or the 7 plus to XR. Good phones regardless but I’d say waiting every 2-3 years between an upgrade is probably the best not only financially but Technicality standpoint.
I previously upgraded from iPhone 8 to iPhone 13 Pro. This was a nice step up.
That's a good 5 year gap
@@joelupetz5157 At the same pace I’ll be upgrading to iPhone 18 Pro next time :-)
Going from an XR to 14 pro last year was a pretty nice leap for me, definitely felt like a premium upgrade
Yeah I’ve realised the best thing to do it just to get air a while
I went from a iPhone 7 Plus to a iPhone 12 and it was awesome and then jumped up to a 14 and it felt like nothing changed and I was so disappointed
@@DecentosDecenium-h6s get the phone ever 5 generations lol
I liked how every brand was doing something different
every brand still does to an extent, it's just that now every other brand is "good enough" at what a given brand used to specialize in. there isn't really any one thing that can be greatly improved upon. the displays on just about every phone are nearing the point where the human eye will barely even notice upgrades, cameras are good enough for the average person, and most flagships, with the exception of the pixel phones, are powerful enough to be able to do just about anything you need them to. every core feature is as good as it realistically needs to be.
I've never believed Apple cares for the environment. When they took away chargers and made boxes smaller, I knew it was more profit for them and more expenses for us and that's why I refuse to make them richer 👍
What would you do with Apple's products to make them more environment friendly?
@@Simboissstop producing them
They removed something that was far more impactful on earth then that
Can you guess what it was?
No phones have this capability anymore either but... you heard in this video Europe will make it mandatory again in the future.
In all essence it actually was the best feature a phone could have but it was basically gone last high end mid range phone to have this feature before it went the way of the dinosaurs was actually the LG v20 I would know because I have the phone.. actually two of them haha but I don't use them anymore using an xperia
I cant guess. What is this feature? Edit: i guess you are talking about user replacable batteries. All galaxy xcover models has them. So does many other phones. And the specs of the latest xcover is on par with flagship models 2-3 years ago, and the price? ; about 1/3 of flagship models. Oh: and it's got the good'ol 3,5mm earphone jack as well.
@@suprlite
Removable batteries
With a spare you are not tied down to a cable or wireless charging which also uses a cable. You can charge the spare and go anywhere you want
You can charge your spare battery at any speed you want really remember slower charging prolongs your battery life
Since you are charging your spare battery outside your phone there will never be heat buildup inside your phone thus prolonging your phone which is great for environment
If you charge your spare battery at a slower charge you prolong the battery life span and won't need another battery for longer period of time instead of just charging fast constantly on one battery.
Since the phone uses removable it is already half opened basically so it makes it waaaay easier to open up. I could upon up my LGv20 is basically 4 minutes you just unscrew 20 philips head screws and that's it
There are special phone cases you can buy for phones with removable batteries which lets you use much bigger battteries
On my LGv20 I use two 8600mah batteries
Which is way more then the current max we already have reached which is 6000mah on these newer phones released.
So you could have a bigger battery on a smaller sized screen phone.
The LGv20 is only 5.7 inches in length and packs a 8600mah battery.
I could actually get a case that would have enabled me to use a whopping 10,000mah battery and have the phone still be small just more fatter.
These are all the advantages you get with removable battery. Essential the fastest charging method to any phone period especially if you get two spare batteries you will never have to be tethered to any cable I assure you
I currently am using the Xpreria 5 ll and this phone doesn't have a removable battery which I dearly dearly miss from my LGv20 I used before the Xperia.
I love the Xperia 5 ll just greatly miss having a removable battery
It is indeed the best feature off all time on any phone and greatly greatly helps the environment
There's only so much resources out there we have to reserve it as much as possible and phones not having removable batteries is the worst thing on a smartphone you can have
Plus we now can easily back everything up on the internet... so really... do we need IP68 rating phones anymore?
I been using phones for over 20 years and have yet to drop my phone in any water.
Either way let people decide if they want a IP68 rated phone or a phone with a removable battery
I already know which version of phone I'll get LOL removable battery phone all day every day until I day
I have an iPhone 11 and don't feel the need to upgrade it any time soon. The 11 is a workhorse with enough storage and most of the features you get with todays phones, and if you take the case off and clean it up, you can really see the craftsmanship behind it and it will feel like a new phone again. Unless something breaks or apple decided to implement software to slow it down there really is no need for me to switch. I could see myself waiting until the iPhone 16 or 17 before I change to the newest model because the iPhones just work (until they don't lol)
i have an 11 too, im scared theyll force an update on us to make us upgrade after it glitches our phone out lol
@@idriveastationwagon1534the battery will just continue to get “worse.” I’ve had my 13 for a year, used smart charging the whole time, and already lost 10% “battery health.” Whatever that means. While the battery is still really good it doesn’t last all day like it used too. Planned obsolescence. Oh but at least I can get 800 bucks towards my 15 when I trade in my 13 🤡
I'm the same. I have IP11 and I won't change until 16 or 17
I just upgraded from the 11 to the 14. Trust me when I say the 14 is so much better. My 11 started slowing down and the battery life started draining fast. I got my 11 in 2018-2019 and it was a well needed upgrade
I sold my 14 Pro the other day and am now using my sisters old iPhone 11 until the 15 Pro arrives, trust me, it's a huge difference between the 11 and newer iPhones
I can understand the discontentment regarding lack of progress with each model, seeing it as boring. However, I remember back 10 years when performance in smartphones blistered year by year and made phones rapidly obsolete. My iPhone 4, at 4 years of age, was begging for death. My current phone, the 11 Pro, at 4 years of age is still kicking. The stagnation meant I don't need to upgrade to a newer phone any time soon and I fortunately see that being recognised among my peers.
I understand the US is very addicted to consumption, but that goes beyond iPhones or smartphones in general, so there are clearly two sides to this story.
still have IPhone X, no reason for upgrade until it dies.
That’s a very valid point. Never thought of it like this
That was me as well. I only upgraded my iPhone 8 after the lightning cable would literally fall off the charge port and the battery wouldn't even last half a day at full charge, the cost to repair it would exceed the cost of selling it.
I then bought an iPhone 11 in 2022 and have no plans to change it in the near future, precisely because the jump in performance is so minimal
To be fair, I don't know why people expect every phone to be a massive change. Sure, if you go from the iPhone 13, to the 14, and then the 15, the changes are incremental, but if you go from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 15, the changes are pretty noticeable.
I am currently on a iphone 11 nd plan to get a iphone 15 but I underestand why some say iphone is at the end of time for innovation
Does a 6 still run well?
Not really, What are these changes? thats 9 years difference, in this lapse of time we have seen many more drastic changes in other companies. Apple has been one of the worst at improving things since Steve died.
@@TornadoOfSouls777I went from a 6s to a 13 mini and it was an absolute staggering difference in performance
Battery isn’t any better but it’s nice having a good camera
Kinda expect decent change since they keep costing 800 minimum.
apple should release iphones like once every 2-3 years where they actually have time to do major changes because back then they didn’t have to update stuff like ipads, air pods, watches, etc and an iphone every year is ridiculous at this point
Something to think about is the MicroSD card slot, notice how today barely any phones above the low-end ones have MicroSD slots. That's because for under $100 you can have double the storage instead of buying another phone or expensive cloud storage. And it's not saving internal space either, because Sony can fit BOTH a 3.5 mm jack AND a MicroSD slot in their compact Xperia 1 FLAGSHIPS WITH a 5000 mAH battery which is huge
I love the Xperia for literally being the actual Pro line of phones without calling themselves Pro, because the amount of control you get from them is actually good compared to apple where they say fuck you and robs you of your cash for "premium" materials as pro
@@tydshiin5783 Apple's Pro just gets you features most if not all other Android flagships have like the 120 Hz and USB-C 3 which are still missing from the normal 15 ☠️
Good point. I've argued with so many people who go "well nobody uses it anymore, you don't need it!" How can they be against OPTIONS. LIterally just options. You pay just as much as previous years for a flagship "premium phone" with less features.
@@grancoast idk how apple f boys can call themselves tech savvy when they don't realise they're on outdated hardware on cutting edge prices
And the bestcthing from (most) Sony and Samsung phones?
Not made in China.
There is still hardware innovation but only for the chips. I still think the new 3nm chip is insane with its 19 billion transistors in the chip. That is unfathomable. The ability to process AAA console games on an iPhone is really mindblowing. They are now focusing on efficiency I guess according to Moore’s law. Moore’s law suggests that computational progress will become significantly faster, smaller, and more efficient over time.
Yup, just because it looks the same doesn’t mean it is the same. But we are getting close to the limits of silicone based chips and we will need to transition in order to keep Moore’s law going.
Why do you need it when iphone 11 still runs every apps smoothly
@@Lynnfield3people care about battery life. The more efficient the chip, the better the battery life, as it uses less battery power to perform tasks.
Are you talking about emulation still dere is no working ps3 or xbox 360 emulator right now only ps2 emulator works perfect
@@Lynnfield3 you say no one cares because you cant feel it. Without chips your phone wont even run....
I don’t think innovations dead I just don’t think there’s much more they can do to improve modern phones. I think they pretty much reach their pinnacle.
Ya lol, but not for long.
Yes but their gonna release a new phone every single year even if there is no reason to do so
I bet the next innovation will be something like 3D hologram abilities. However I'm not in the loop so someone smarter than me, feel free to tell me this already exists 😂
@@LetsSingTheDoomSong That would be awesome. I’m not sure how they would do that without a vertical glass to project it on.
@@Nikkerman yeah but no ones forcing anyone to buy the latest iPhone, to me all this just seems like people finding excuses to be angry at something
this isn’t just an apple issue. It’s pretty much every smartphone nowadays. Samsung, Pixel, and Apple barely change
samsung actually has features though
Apple stays lacking behind
Back in 05-06, I was watching G4tv, specifically Attack of the Show. The people were talking about smartphones and the host asked this guy what he thought the future of smartphones would look like. This guy said that the touch screen was the last big innovation when it comes to phones. He continued by saying something like, here on out we won't see physical changes anymore, but just upgrades to software. Here we are almost 20 years later and the phone I am typing this out on looks just like the smartphones back then, just a little bigger and more camera lenses.
And? A smartphone has a purpose and it fills that perfectly; it doesn't need 'constant innovations.' An innovation is going from old cellphones to TOUCH SCREEN; adding an extra button to an old cellphone is not innovation, so why do people consider multiple lenses an 'innovation?'
What gets me the most is the fact that Apple still makes a phone of at least 800 dollars with a 60Hz display…..like, that’s criminal in this day and age
But it's next product! Aren't you excited for next product? Not buying product and getting excited for next product is the wrong side of history and frankly transfatphobic. Yikes!
Exactly!!! The entry level Samsung A14 offers a 1080+ 90Hz display at 6.7 inches and it costs 200 bucks. What gives???
Imo if someone is going to buy a 60hz iphone they should just save $500 and buy a iphone xs
@@dnegel9546 Even the ultra low entry level Samsung 04e has a 60Hz screen at HD+ and runs Android 13 with upgradeability. That's just a USD129 device. What is Apple thinking?
@@SaigonBritThey're thinking that a very very very very large majority dont care about hz nor do they even know what 120hz means and hence the 15 will sell like butter anyways
I feel good about sticking with my 13 Pro Max. I'm sure the 15 lineup will be a great upgrade for those who need a new device. Gonna try to keep mine for another couple of years.
Remember, last year's "best ever" phone hasn't changed just because a newer one has arrived. Last year's phone is still pretty awesome.
I feel like upgrading my 12 but only because the battery is starting to drop in life. I used to be able to watch YT for 8 hrs, now I only have 4. Tiktok fades my battery to 0% from full in less than 2 hours. And the charger is slow as shit, 50% in 2.5 hrs is nothing when I can waste it in half the time :/
@@samirbelica2358 who tf is watching TH-cam for 8hrs
@@thatsepic494 people who dont have a job lol
@@thatsepic494 me 😁
@@thatsepic494ipad kids loool
I really hope EU forces companies to start putting SD card support back on every phone
If you think that Moon has told you all the bad things the iPhone has...just try to repair one,it's a nightmare fuel. It's a miracle that Apple didn't screw up with the Firmware Restoration and in fact,it's the most easy phone to restore compare to the Android's phone,that's the most easy thing you can do with the iPhone.
there's only one name (on TH-cam) that matters when it comes to phone (and laptop!) repair: Louis Rossman.
I worked with that for 5-6 years, I've seen every trick in the book they have applied to their devices.
It's absolutely disgusting, and everyone else simply followed suit. Because nobody even tried to stop Apple to begin with. Only company in the EU to have 1 year warranty on their products, instead of the EU standard of 2 years for all electronics which every single other tech or electronic device company, has had to adhere to. But not Apple. They can circumvent continental laws and surpass national laws in 50 countries. How? Why? Corruption. That's the only answer.
@@ScottAllenFinancehe’s one of the best electronic repairers in the world. All the employees in his shop are also skilled too :3
when you say “restore” do you mean lay down a new OS onto a device or retrieve data from a backup?
(coming from someone not familiar with phone repair)
The repairing has become so bad, even the professionals at apple fail to repair the phones you give them and end up damaging them instead
I’m watching this video on my iPhone 8 Plus without any problems. The screen is big enough and it’s capable of taking pictures with pretty good quality.
Same here
iphone 8 plus is great. absolutely cannot compare to a 6 plus@@andryxxx
Someone needs to make a petition to stop TH-cam from censoring moons content because this stuff is amazing and should be way more wide spread.
Or censoring ANY creator!
@@therichard27except pedophiles, they can be censored and arrested
It's high quality propaganda
His content is super mediocre. But what have they censored?
@@Frank72364ya... I've got to say, this recent stuff sucked. This video is a huge stretch. Doesn't talk about the neural engine improvement, hardware ray tracing, apple version of dlss, etc. Apple added tons of upgrades, and at the end of the day, it's like expecting each new Nvidia gpu to change your life. It doesn't.... It just adds more performance.... Just like you'd expect.
I've been an Android user since I got rid of my iPhone 5 in 2014. My carrier was having a sale on the new iPhone 15 Pro, so I decided to get one because I've have been having some minor hardware issues with my S20 FE so I decided to get it. It was extremely sluggish, would stop loading webpages on 5G at totally random times, and the cameras suck.
6:57 the cameraman: 😁📸
All I wanna say is that I always know that your videos hit the spot, and bring new objective light on relevant topics. That is an insane achievement and I am sure I am not the only one who thinks this
The problem is that the lightening connector has fully saturated the market. For every iPhone there are probably 10 lightning cables. They’re everywhere, in every gas station, dollar store and junk drawer. By the time the majority upgrade to the 15 and all their charging cables, we’ll be on USB-D and all the old lightening cables will be in a landfill.
tru my guy
This is relatable? Just made a video about an iphone release? Why? Because it’s in the news cycle thats why!
If you find this “Relatable” then your mental age has not surpassed 13 years kid 😒
@@token3462 Why are you so mad man? I didn't even say relatable...
@@kilroy314 I am just tired of this Moon guy, he is so negative about everything, unsubscribed already 🙌🏻
I bought an S23+ 5 months ago despite considering the wait for the iPhone 15. There were too many things I could not give up with an android so I stuck through with my decision. The Apple event only secured my standing when I could see that there was nothing groundbreaking to incentivise the device. I still can't wrap my head around the fact that Apple is still going through with the 60hz screen on a high end flagship phone for their standard models despite the crazy pricing.
My only takeaways from the event was usb-c, 3nm chip, and slightly better cameras. All their other 'innovations' are features that should have come to their phones 2-3 years prior.
Did you really expect something groundbreaking on a phone in 2023?
So what exactly would be groundbreaking? Genuinely curious.
You’re extremely du mb the cheap 15 it’s not a flagship phone it’s their cheapest phone, you should’ve gotten a pro and not be poor
@@mrdereksutton if we are strictly talking about their phones then iphone introduces multitouch and ios ui, iphone 3 has 3g, iphone 5 lightning cable, iphone 5s touch id. Of course, some of these features may not be strictly apple nor have they invented the listed innovations but they are one of the first to implement them. Throughout their phone generations there is clear incentive in upgrading to later phones for specific features.
Of course, other competitors also have their innovations which apple has taken or given but the main takeaway is that these are features that pushed the phone market.
Imo, apple currently lacks innovation as there is nothing that currently drives people to buy new phones in the saturated market. Apple used to be the ones driving the market, now they are playing it safe and slowly incrementing past features and presenting them as the 'new' innovations.
Cheapest doesn't mean it isn't a flagship, maybe take a trip to the google search bar for a definition because you probably need one. And I am not sure how my financial situation has anything to do with your argument considering that I bought an S23 which is a flagship phone within the same price range.
I've two iPhone that I carry around. One 8+ and one 14+. Except for the bigger screen I actually prefer the 8+. I much prefer the Touch ID over Face ID. I can just put my finger on the sensor to unlock without having to look at the phone and get distracted or have to take my phone out of my pocket. Other function wise, I really couldn't feel there is a big difference between the two.
While Samsung's out there releasing the fifth generation of their cutting-edge foldables, the most hyped Apple event this year is them adding USB-C to the iPhone15. AND its got a 60hz display in an era where even $200 phones have 90/120Hz displays. Pretty telling tbh.
Lol... and the USB-C was mandated by EU.... but it figures that Apple, the manipulative superficial mancihld that it is, spins it as "what an innovation." If a person did this stuff, they'd be an antisocial narcissistic wreck. Personally I think Apple has jumped the shark, and they're entering their ultimate decline. God, I hope so.
And the iPhone 15's USB c port is USB 2.0. As well as their charging cables they ship in the box.
The foldable phone is an extreme gimmick
Most people don't use or need a folding phone,
@@edwinwandera6993who is most people!?, samsung foldables sells are increasing with every generation
I like how they used to say that iPhones are the perfect size and you shouldn't buy a bigger phone. Eventually they just gave into making bigger phones
The perfect size imo was from 4-5, 6 and later models are fucking stupid large to the point that you'd need a purse to keep your phone
Tbh I would not mind a modern smartphone with the size of the 4 or 5 with little to no bezels, thickness is whatever imo because thin phones just snap so easily
@@tydshiin5783 I have a 6 inch phone and it fits in my hand fine
Edit: take away one word in that sentence and it sounds weird
@@Special_Agent_Frank_Horrigandifferent people have different hands
@@RawbLV ok but did not inquire
@@RawbLV I have considerably large hands and the 6&7 are too fucking big for me to hold comfortably
14 was too heavy to even hold for long periods plus damn impossible to use with one hand
Another factor worth mentioning is that as a product's technology grows, the time to revolutionize does too. One year isn't as significant when there is 15 phones under their belt, its the idea of relativity.
Also fails to mention the new AI chip that gets up to 35 TOPS
Switch to android after about 5 iPhone generation's. Couldn't be happier! The Back button is a game changer and I could never go back to a phone without it lol
Apple truely revolutionize how they charge over 1K for a phone that basically looked the same for 6 years
What more is there to change? Smartphones have reached their peak, there's no advancing or innovation from here. MR headsets like the Vision Pro are the future.
Theyve charged the same price, less than 1k, for multiple years. Not raising prices unlike other phone companies
Only with brand new phones. You can get an xs max for 3-400.
tell me how samsung, oppo, xiaomi etc etc all have phones $1,000 and over pls
@@TheStopwatchGodExactly, this is what people need to realise 🤦♂️
The PC market is falling into the yearly release schedule as well and it's worrying to see.
GPU's are still roughly once every half decade but CPU's are starting to become more and more frequent. Intel is already getting ready for 14th gen when 13th gen has BARELY even hit the 1 year mark. AMD is not as bad in this regard as they are still once every 3-4 years but I'd be surprised if this didn't start to speed up too in the near future, especially with intel already doing it now
Yeah AMD used AM4 for about 6 years, compared to Intel they released in the same time 3 different sockets.
Atleast the high end GPUs are offering a good performance upgrade over the previous one, but I think CPUs are starting to give diminishing returns, especially with intel
14th gen already out, now the next generation names start with "Core 5" (i5), etc
Yeah I made this comment 2 months ago before it was
This is more about the pacing of hardware releases rather than naming conventions. That's another can of worms to get into
Thats because they throttle the releases, I bet they have 18gen cpus already.They aint gonna just release em, they ll sell a crap ton of small upgrades instead.
The most interesting thing is that they actually mentioned on stage that "iPhones keep their value over time"... which is damn true nowadays. I have only bought used iPhones, I only owned the 5s and the 7+. I've been keeping an eye out for so long exactly because since around the iPhone X it seems prices would never fall. I don't know if is because there are so many models out there, they inflated the lineup with "mid range" models, or it's because they support models much much longer than Android, but it's pretty ridiculous to see iPhone 8 still costing 150+ and the iPhone 13 Pro (which is what I wanted to upgrade to) costing pretty much the same as the entry iPhone 15. 2 gen behind and costs the same. Used!
Yeah that's very annoying. Used iphones still cost an arm and a leg
It's really wild. Recently I was looking at some used phones to try something different besides my Zenfone 8. I check out used iPhones because I already own an iPad, and an used base model 12 was costing about the same as an used S21 ultra! On top of that, used 12 pro models were going for 50% more! I genuinely couldn't justify getting one, and I absolutely wasn't going to compromise on even older models.
Why would you buy the latest model unless you are in the iPhone ten or whatever the fuck it was called
fr compared to me being an android user, a year after release the price drops 50% and that's what I end up picking up, as much as I want to switch to iphone from friend group pressure. I've had great (and not so great, always make sure you can return a do a lot of nitpicking) experiences with buying used androids, and then I see used iphone prices. Sheeee
@@nari5161 I looked at buying used Androids, is very enticing getting last year or year prior top of the line Samsung for a midrange price... but the problem is that until this year they were extremely unreliable in terms of software support... really the strategy was to not update so people would update the phone (or maybe just cost cutting as most of the buyers just replace every 2 years).
I can see lots of nice in Android, but at the same time I don't like Google, and at least Apple does less prying in your data/privacy.
Pixel phones have been hit and miss, with one year the screen, another the battery being shit after first OS update... iPhones are quite a good pick: anything you get you know was top of the offering, you know pictures are gonna be top-3 good for the year of release standards.
I hated Apple when they didn’t add a smart Siri to their line
It kind of depends on what phone you have. From a person who has an iPhone 11, it seems more compelling because I’ve had my phone for a while.
Same with me. I’ve had my iPhone 11 Pro Max for a few years and I had plans to get the iPhone 14 pro max. I don’t know if I should get it or get the iPhone 15
@@TA-ht4jo Depends on whether you really want ProMotion and an always-on display. Those are the two main differences, so if those things don’t matter that much to you, I’d say get the 15.
True
9:27 HTC was the one to first implement multiple cameras in their smartphones. There's a repeated misconception that Apple is an innovator when there has been a plethora of evidence that the harp on design choices that other companies had done previous, but are overlooked simply because it wasn't on the Iphone yet.
I miss my HTC Evo 3D. It was dumb and gimmicky but I kinda feel like we need more dumb and gimmicky stuff these days. Everything is sterile and boring
they were YEARS behnd nokia back in the day.
putting two cameras is not 'innovation,' and who fcking cares
Just like apple wasn't the first touchscreen phone
@@elvangulley3210 Not the first one, but the first capacitive display that supported multi touch gestures.
This year I updated from a 12 to the 15 Pro Max. I feel it was a worthwhile update, love the bigger display and the slightly rounded edges do feel better in the hand. Personally I don't think an update every year is worthwhile but every 3-4 years is ok for me. I agree with the video in that we have reached the peak of the current technology, I don't think folding phones are the next step, probably longer lasting battery life for a phone would be great but next is the goggles, a different way we can interact with the technology. Phones will likely stay as hand held screen cameras.
exactly, you dont need to buy a new phone every year, and i would hate if the iphone design changed
@@culan_SCP People don't realise that Apple views their design as iconic.
They're confident with their design language, and thus they are making only small adjustments to it every year, sometimes none at all , (cough) iPhone 14(cough).
They release new colours to differentiate the newer model from the older ones.
Titanium for the 15 Pros, Deep Purple for the 14 Pros, Sierra Blue for the 13 Pros (still really love that colour), Pacific Blue for the 12 Pros, and Midnight Green for the 11 Pros.
And the colours overall have a different tone from model to model as for the Non-Pro models.
@@CuberBeats yes.
There’s enough change for me to make the upgrade. The bigger phone has better ergonomics for me, the 120hz is something I want, and I want that USB C port. The extra ram is neat too.
I was hoping the 15 plus would have been worth getting, but it’s literally not worth getting.
@@culan_SCPmain reason we are regularly changing phones is because of the battery
9:17
The first smartphone with a dual-camera setup was the HTC M8, released in March 2014
The thing about apple is that since most people don’t get the newest iPhone every year, they can afford to only make marginal changes so when you do upgrade, those marginal improvements from year to year, it feels so much better
Exactly. So many people look at the new phone and are quick to compare it to last year's model, but the average person doesn't buy a new phone every year. iPhones tend to get software support for 6 years. While I'm sure that Apple would love for every customer to upgrade every year, people don't need to because their phones work just fine for far longer than that.
Marginal changes have been the name of the game since the beginning and that goes for pretty much everything in tech. We got the the OG iPhone, then we got 3G next, then that got a faster chip, then they bumped the screen resolution, then we got bigger screens, then we got more cameras and we every generation we also got faster chips. This applies to other manufacturers too.
Things are still getting better over time but there is a point of diminishing returns. I don't know if people expect those devices to cure cancer or something next, but all that whining feels a bit off-putting.
I have had my XR for five years now which i think is a decent amount of time. Most people i know keep there iphones for years. I am going to updrade and get the iphone 15 this year though.
New Iphones that are far better than the previous model would suck hard. You'd constantly have a "crappy outdated" phone
absolutely agree. switching from 5s (a legendary iPhone) to 8+ was great for me, and the next switch would probably be too. now what bothers me is then why even do this fancy september presentation? i haven't watched the live so maybe i'm in the wrong here but apple could easily announce the "new incrementally improved iPhone", say, at WWDC. it would save our time and call for less videos like the one we just watched. the backlash is absolutely understandable so why not switch things up...
as an old iphone 6s user i feel that was the breaking point for me. when i was finding my new phone i looked into iphone se and eleven. swiping the home from my 6s and an SE that was on display in a store felt surreal, same exact experience. i imagine that is the same when an XS user now tries to do that with this new phone. i escaped the cage.
You’re surprised that 2 60hz screens feel the same?
Just say that you are broke or greedy. Who tf buys iPhone SE😭😭😭
@@TheSakMusik the irony of this comment considering the video this is posted under
@@TheSakMusiki do but even tho im an apple user dontbe an isheep.
@@TheSakMusikbroke or greedy is crazy
Really good video. I've had the same phone for 6 years now. My friends have gone through 2 to 3 new phones during that time. They're pressuring me into buying a new phone as well. That's where I've drawn the line. I need a product that's going to last me, not be thrown away or discarded within a few years. It's disgusting how this practice is. I do give credit to Samsung for trying the flip and fold, but the prices are beyond what I would consider wallet friendly.
One of my more personal disappointments with phones these days is the removal of expanded storage. Micro SD card space is not even a thing anymore you can add to new phones. It's quite a shame...
Not really, it's a bit annoying that he keeps emphasizing the nature of clout chasing of newer phones as if that's not a common occurrence across brands. Some people want to have the latest and greatest some people doesn't give a shit, let the people who want the latest and greatest that's their choice, you have yours, what's wrong with that? any brands does the same practice of releasing new phones every year, so why specifically call out only Apple? It's annoying when people tries to brag about getting new phones and shame on those people, it doesn't mean shit.
Very few phones still do that, I think the Samsung Galaxy A series still has them, but they are midrange phones, so the quality is only okay. But I do miss them too. 😢
And all I wanted was a phone where I could listen to FM radio.. =(
Can I interest you in a Fairphone 5? It seems to check all your boxes. Repairability, long-term support, removable battery, micro SD slot.
Which phone do you use?
Watching this on my iphone 11 pro here. Still going strong. Why upgrade if this phone still works well?
I was using a iPhone 10 a couple years ago until I switched to a 13 just for the investment alone.
I have been using a motorola g5 for the past eight years. it still runs very well, it isnt slow, and i dont plan on changing it anytime soon
I can't use an iPhone. it gives me severe nausea . THe way this guy sucks up to apple is also nauseating.
I remember updating from an iphone 4 to a 6, and it was sleeker, faster, and had a way better battery. Nowadays I cling to my iphone 11 because I see no benefit to getting rid of it.
It was a great time to be back in 2010 and 2011 and 2012 which was the peak of smartphone technology every year we had major improvements over the previous models, To me it peaked at the Galaxy S3 such a beautifully designed phone.
Really? I thought the S3 was hideous... I much preferred the S2's design.
we don't have improvements anymore because we don't need any. the average person uses their phones for messaging, social media, camera/photos, and maybe gaming or consuming movies/tv. displays are almost at the point where upgrades aren't even noticeable, cameras are good enough for anyone, processing power on any flagship is good enough for basically anything. there really isn't an area that needs more.
@@JackFou nah bro the S3 was shaped a bit round and had that nature water like feeling to it
It was one of THE best selling phones in history
@@aidan8583 that's a very dump statemen and I'm sure a human being like doesn't have the brian capacity of a bug
That's like saying " we don't need more upgrades because we can't benefit from them"
But that is stupid, All hardware upgrades comes BEFORE software can utilize them
For example when we made the jump from 720p to 1080p it was a big difference
Most games were Stull using 720p but with time the 1080p became the standard
@@KingdomRepublic i didn't mean that there is zero benefit to upgrades, just that an upgrade such as 4k on an iphone display, for example, won't be incredibly noticeable to the average human eye. a lot has plateaued simply because we are almost at the point where upgrades are truly not noticeable. just like 30 to 60 frames is very noticeable, and so is 60 to 120, but the higher up you go the less you will notice the difference until eventually we get to the point where screens refresh faster than our eyes or brains can process.
i would be very curious to know what you are so disappointed apple or other companies aren't doing.
The Apple advert was so cringey, you can see the fact that they only wanted minorities to speak omg it's so embarrassing
This was exactly what I was thinking, thanks for putting out a full fledged video on the topic and making people more aware. I believe only 3 iPhones brought the big innovations to smartphones. iPhone 2G, first iPhone, iPhone 5s, with bringing biometric authentication and finally iPhone X, with current modern day smartphone design and package. I still use iPhone X bought it at launch. It is still a beast, its losing support with iOS 17. and with the iphone 15 pros launching today, i dont see a good reason to upgrade other than the camera or maybe the battery coz my phone gets charged with apple car play twice or thrice daily. so i dont have any battery issues. Most probably i would be keeping my iPhone X another year.
Same for me, still using my Iphone X but already had to replace the battery and screen. I would definitely keep my Phone if the camera would be better compared to the newer ones with night mode and so on.
totally with you on the iphone X. got it in Dec 2017 and it's still going strong. ok, its a bit laggy. but it never stopped working, all the pieces are original (nothing has been replaced) and it does the job. Maybe its time for an upgrade this year. but after 6 years, I think that's fair
@@richardswanson7826 That's how it should be though! I feel like an upgrade for a phone is warranted after 3+ years (3 being sooner rather than later)
On average I'd say 4-6 years is reasonable
I have an x and i upgraded the battery to a 3200mah one and my phone now lasts all day. Literally with heavy use. And by heavy use i mean im on youtube and tiktok all day.
I like this phone so I’ll probably pick up a XS for cheap.
sounds like a good plan! @@dnegel9546
i used a note 4 for 5 years and you could open the back with your hands, without needing any tools. i carried 1 more charged battery so if my battery died, i could just open the back and put the fully charged one. never had to change any part of it because it was good quality, but i think if i ever wanted to it wouldnt be a problem. its not my main phone anymore, but it still works great, no lag no nothing, still compatible with most apps.
I just upgraded from an IPhone 7+ I rocked for five years to the iPhone 14 Pro and WOW I will say it feels like a major improvement. I love waiting a couple years because the improvements feel significant
Lol. You just upgraded? You know the 15 is the same price.
@@LlamasAreBest I don’t upgrade unless I have to, nor do I care about the USB C changes
@@AverageVideoGameJoe Still bought a year old phone for the price of a new one. Dumb.
@@LlamasAreBest I don’t understand your obsession with the newest gadget in a 15 or how you think I paid the same price for it. You can tone the patronizing down homie.
@@AverageVideoGameJoe If you buy a year old iPhone a 2 weeks before the launch of the new one, you are an idiot. I don't care what you say or your excuse.
I don't know, after hearing from you, I can only imagine and hope now that things would go in the right direction for all of us.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees this. I’ve been using the base iPhone 13 every day for the past two years and every release since then has been uneventful other than the cameras getting bigger and dynamic island. The iPhone 13 still feels very modern and up to date, despite now being two releases behind.
I think the iPhone 11-12 was the last decent upgrade. It bought, 5G, an OLED screen, much better battery, thinner bezels, new chip, and new edged corners.
2 years is nothing
0:30 correction, the USA, not the world. Android makes up 60-70% of the world's phones. Apple does have a majority in the USA, but definitely not the world.
As someone who uses the iPhone as one of my main cameras for my videos, the small incremental upgrades to the cameras video performance from generation to generation have been a great boost to me personally as for the rest of the iPhone, since the iPhone 11, its basically been the same since.
Yep thats because iphone 11 and iphone 14 is just refinement period. 15 was the a small leap in camera because of the other phones are already offering this, so I strongly believe the 8th or 9th are the best phones within each generation as refinement is over and now its the next technology advancement. However Apple and other phone companies know this so they arent adding 8-9 years of support on a phone because hardly anyone would switch from their phones.
@@robertceron9056 yeah but at least app support for older phones is stronger on android I can run 2023 apps on an android phone made in 2016.
You should use android cameras, then iphone later. Android right now has top of the line cameras, but apple only has 48 mp vs samsung's 200 mp. Ik mp isnt the only factor, but apple has to pretend like they made a change every year by gradually incrementing the camera performance, so just stick with android right now. But don't if you don't have the budget
@@smaransure2234Apple kills Samsung in video but for photos it’s a toss up but there’s definitely times where Samsung wins
@Kingcommaalex no it doesn't. Samsung has better video and photos (better audio better Zoom better ultra wide better stabilization better quality better portrait) etc
iPhone 14 Pro costs $10 to Apple to manufacture one and it's sold for how much 😂 😂 😂
thats the labour cost, but the materials are more expensive
The video is absolutely correct, but my question is 'what did you expect?'. The smartphone went mainstream around 2008-2009 and the market grew rapidly, the product category is now 15ish years old, no wonder new releases are minuscule improvements. Steve Jobs himself said that a product category tends to stall after the first 10 years of development. Even innovative tech like foldables is not really a game changer, except for internet personalities, almost every single person I've ever come across irl that has a foldable tends to admit it is a total gimmick and for their next phone they will switch back. Honestly the market has finally reached the point of not being worth upgrading every single year, maybe the idiots that have to get the newest, greatest thing will actually use their phone until it's dead.
I would expect them to maybe allow sideling, landscape mode on the home screen which they've got rid of ever since they introduced the notch, expandable storage, to bring back the headphone jack, a desktop mode
Foldables feel like that because they are not there yet. Unless you eliminate the crease and make a screen that can be strong like a glass screen then it will feel like a gimmick because it is too sensitive and has a clear annoying flaw.
There are many way to innovate though but manufactures just stopped and only do what is most profitable.
Remember how many phones tried different things to eliminate the on the screen camera at first when screen because the full face of the phone? So many innovate things with plenty working great yet everything stopped because they discovered they could still sell just fine by having a hole on the screen.
9:27 This is so unrealistic. When the time comes that the iPhone 21 hits the market, there is no way it’s going to come in rose gold.
I still have the iPhone 7. Works great, battery still lasts all day. what's the point of getting a new phone if the one you have still works fine?
Im in possession of an Iphone SE I want to replace it because of the screen size and quality.
Wish I could say the same tho, if I barely use it, yes, its gonna last a day, but once I use spotify, yt, etc... the thing goes fast lol...
@@15wwe15weird. I stream lossless audio on my iphone 7 and the battery still lasts very long. I never do system updates, though, I think that's the key.
Calling iPhones bad products is a little much. They are not the only major smartphone company making smaller updates each year.
That’s why I went from upgrading every year, to now getting a new iPhone every 4-5 years
I'm still happy with my iPhone 6.
@@checkfactschecking where a you live?
Same here, upgraded last year and before that it was 2018, before that 2014. A few of my friends always get excited and text in our group chat during every apple event lol, it’s absolute peak cringe “consoomer” culture
@@arthurgamerpro6585 Southern Ontario, why?
@@checkfactscheckingbro is coping
9:17 HTC EVO 3D and LG Optimus 3D were the first smartphones with two cameras all the way back in 2011, but it wasn't until the iPhone 7 Plus came out in 2016 that Apple started the dual camera trend.
ikr this just tells me this guy speaks without proper research
I think a huge reason why most upgrade yearly is the phones slow down over time, or at least people feel like their phone is slowing down in just under a year so they upgrade for the thought of a new phone running at 100% speed
My Samsung S10 has been running perfectly fine since 2019 honestly.
Ever since that lawsuit, they havent been slowing it down much on my end
@@honkhonk8009 They still slow it down since every update brings heavier demands but not as much.
If you buy a really low end Samsung it stars working fine and it becomes painfully slow after 2-3 years.
To be fair, when I had my iPhone 6 for a few years it got slow as hell, to the point where I literally had to wait 20-30 seconds just to open whatsapp (and I am not exaggerating either, literally measured it with a stopwatch). Ever since then I've been traumatized of getting a new iPhone, however I've now been rocking an iPhone 11 for the past 4 years and tbh I can't say it slowed down significantly since the first day I got it. And thats with tons of new updates. Gotta say, Apple got their shit together.
@@ferryhmm They "got their shit together" only because they got sued for slowing down older phones to force user upgrades.
@@mintheman7 The thing is, even when they rolled out that update to be able to disable the CPU throttling, my phone was still that slow. So yes, they still "got their shit together", because the phone slowing down went beyond the questionable cpu throttling practice they did
no matter what people say about apple. people will still buy it