Watching Jedi go and train with elite practitioners in other grappling martial arts then coming back and trying to integrate them in his BJJ would be a great series to watch. For example like: Sambo, Japanese jiu-jitsu, catch wrestling, Luta Livre etc... good vid Jedi!
@@albertcohee7757Luta Livre is Brazilian catch wrestling. No-gi ju-jitsu is derived from GJJ. They are competing paradigms of grappling and they differ on their respective training philosophies.
Love the ending lmao. Sick video, Jedi. I am the reverse of you somewhat. I trained Judo for just over 3 years, then a few years later started BJJ. I'm also 3 years deep into BJJ and Judo has definitely given me a massive advantage over most people on the feet, not just people my rank. I think a big part of that is actually understanding grips and my weight distribution. You should stick with it and see what you think! Btw, I sometimes let my opponents try single or double leg me, just so I can grab an overhook and harai goshi their soul into the mat. Please try do this in your next judo video ;)
As a Judo player for 40 years and a BJJ player for 5 years, the BJJ stance is very easy to overcome. It's a very unstable stance and common amongst beginners, you grip the back of their collar step back and drive their face into the mat, it's a cruel to be kind type of thing. Dominanting the grip is key in Judo, as soon as you have your grip attack. Bicep curls will help you achieve a strong grip. I did BJJ to help my newaza in Judo, and it certainly did help. I always preferred Judo, I felt I have a good scap and could let a bit more steam off than BJJ. Both great sports.
@matkasim Personally, I would advocate trying your utmost to keep out of any street alterations even if it means running away. There are way too many variables such as knives, etc. However, if it comes down to having to use self defence, then I was taught never to go to the ground with an assailant as they're freinds may be round the corner and you'd be outnumbered and vulnerable. I was taught this by an ex paratrooper, so that makes a lot of sense to be me. Therefore, I would have to say Judo every time. If you throw someone hard enough, they are not going to get up in a hurry.
@@matkasim BJJ is quicker to learn and easier on the joints. Judo is probably better because you can get a dominant takedown then ground and pound. Otherwise look learn to box for a few months then start grappling sport or just carry a legal self-defense weapon. If you learn Judo with the focus on self defense you can pick it up pretty quickly, since competitive Judo and old-school Judo focus on very different things. Any martial art is better than no martial art. But between the two Judo is class and BJJ is good.
@@Mcginnty948 I'd argue its even easier in no-gi. You have to combine it with wrestling though. Its basically what the DDS and B Team guys do for takedowns.
Throwing mechanics are throwing mechanics. If you’re doing no-gi while you’re doing Judo you’ll be fine. You’ll just learn to adjust your grips and stuff accordingly. The fundamental mechanics and timing are largely the same.
I’ve found your channel recently after having started BJJ after 7 years of Judo Uchi mata is the hardest throw in Judo. The reason your throws weren’t working vs the one that did is you didn’t off balance you opponent first - that’s what the warm up drill is for, you’re not just drilling the entry but the kuzushi to off balance your opponent or the technique won’t work - you’re pulling their arms up to get their heels off the floor so they get thrown easily and lightly versus force. Keep going. Well done - that foot sweep is hard to get. Also if in close frame your top grip forearm against their chest - it helps you control the distance and stops people getting under you. He used this on you many times when not attacking if you watch
Uchi mata is definitely one of the hardest throws to pull off. There's a reason you never see it in wrestling or low to mid level judo. You'll see it a lot in BJJ because most BJJ guys can't defend takedowns
@@josephfontelera8881 if you watch high level Judo you actually see it all the time. It’s a high percentage technique which as stated in the video is a hip technique, not a leg technique. Even if you don’t hit it, the entry usually leads to some secondary attacks. It’s quite safe generally speaking. To get it right and pull it off at a moment notice. It’s definitely hard to do well. There’s a few different ways of doing it, but against a BJJ person with a low stance, if you can get in deep with your step it’s very likely you’ll catch them. It’s not judo people making things harder. Done right it IS harder. Ken-Ken uchimata less so, but you’ll struggle to pull that off without athleticism against someone good who doesn’t over commit their weight, which a good judoka won’t
I would politely disagree that uchi mata is not the hardest throw to learn in judo. There are many factors involved in how "hard" a throw is to learn in judo. Some factors may include your body and its mechanics, as well as the coach (or coaches) you are learning uchi mata from. Other factors can be the size, shape and experience of your training partner(s) and the consistency in which you choose or receive the opportunity to practice certain techniques, like uchi mata. What might be a "hard" throw for you to learn, could be "easy" for someone else to learn. So, perhaps for you, uchi mata has been one of, or maybe the hardest throw in judo for you to do, personally. I have been training in judo for over 14 years, and coaching judo for six or seven years, being one of the coaches at the club I'm at. Uchi mata is my favourite throw, as I am a fairly tall person (6'3 / 193cm) with long legs. In the past, I always found uchi mata difficult to do, and to be absolutely honest, my former coaches at my previous club were not good at uchi mata, and because they rarely performed it during their 'judo careers', they did not quite know how to do and teach uchi mata to others. They very much favoured other techniques, like seoi nage. About seven or eight years ago, we had a guest coach from another state run a weekend training camp (or seminar) and he is a 6th dan red and white belt. He showed me a different way to do uchi mata, and his way to do uchi mata was quite beneficial for someone with long legs, someone like me. I loved this variation, felt comfortable doing it, and have been doing it ever since. My former coaches are very "old school". They strictly believe (or believed, I don't know if they've changed their mind) that kuzushi (breaking one's balance) means pulling someone up on their toes toward you. With respect, this is not entirely true, it's not so black and white. "Kuzushi" literally means "to level, pull down, destroy or demolish". In a judo sense, it is indeed breaking someone's balance, forcing them to become unbalanced, but this can be achieved in many ways, not just one. For example, if you were to grip someone, force their head to the side (so the top of their head was effectively facing a wall) and their spine becomes somewhat curved similar to an upside down 'L', then their posture is broken, and so is their balance. They are now vulnerable. Without going into too much detail (and it might sound weird) but this is how I utilise my uchi mata. While there are many throws in judo, there are many different ways to do said throws. When it comes to formal demonstration for the purpose of belt grading/promotion, you would usually have to showcase throws in their original or traditional manner (which can seriously suck, I am terrible at the "traditional" uchi mata) but when it comes to randori (free practice, fighting/sparring) and/or shiai (competition), you can do a throw in whatever way you feel comfortable (as long as it's within the rules of judo competition, of course). Furthermore, while there are many throws in judo, a judoka (judo practitioner) will probably only be "really good" at a select few, say three or five throws.
Stoked to see you try out judo! Gotta put in the reps bro. Being able to train with other body types is a game changer. If you learn to do uchimata with the same 5'5'' dude its not gonna translate when you go with the 6'2'' person. Btw at 5:01 hes actually going for osoto gari not tai otoshi.
Its pretty cool that you are keeping an open mind and cross training to benefit your BJJ. Judo has a STEEP learning curve and learning it for for BJJ takes A LONG time to get good because the reactions you get from a BJJ guy versus a judo guy is completely different. The BJJ guy will keep their hips back and low to take shots and not grip fight as much, a judoka will stay up right, grip fight, and circle a lot while attacking foot sweeps to set up the big throw. Once you find the balance between both arts you'll have a MASSIVE advantage on the mat. I've done BJJ for 24 years and Judo for about 20 and I'm still trying to figure it out. LOL! Good luck on your journey!
Great video, I've been training Judo with some of my friends who are national and international competitors, I feel it's helped my BJJ game dramatically. Thanks for the free content!
Judo for the sake of judo is very different than judo for bjj for the mere fact of grip and posture. Uchi mata is the king of all throws in my opinion every competent judoka has some variation of uchi mata in their game. But I suggest learning a good very solid Koshi guruma and ogoshi before learning straight up uchi mata since it’s a pendulum technique (in others words has complex body mechanics to have a really good one) tip on judo techniques kozuchi (off balance pulling motion) is everything with good strong kozuchi your already 50% there to throwing someone next time you try judo focus on the pull more than anything else and you’ll see how the rest comes naturally Great video Jedi
I will never forget that ending🤣 I'm now a yellow belt in judo, you were definitely better than me on my first day! Good job! 🥳 Also that's a quote I want on my tombstone, "people always say that I end things to abruptly, so this time I'm gonna-"
As a Judo Purple belt and BJJ Blue (and almost purple) I got to say.. it takes a long time to master takedowns, maybe thousands of repetitions to really get good in one or two. Uchi Mata is also very difficult in BJJ due to the long and long posture, it is not something I try often. Leg sweeps (ashis) and Drop Morote/Seoi work good.
Judoka here. Good efforts with the uchi mata. These throws are really hard and technical. You have to put so many reps in to get it really clean and fluid. I bet if you keep at it for 6 months / a year it will be your go to throw! Also lovely sweep there against the blue belt. Nice!
Great effort! That "tai otoshi" you are attempting and that was attempted on you is actually a "ko-soto-gari." Tai = body Otoshi = drop ko = minor soto = outside gari = sweep Remember to get your hips close and under and then use your leg! Keep trying!
Okay, when you are rolling in BJJ, the issue is that he isn't put in a position where he could conceivably fall anyway. He's completely balanced and you are shooting your leg in in hope. Work less on the trip and more on establishing kusushi. A trip is a finisher to kusushi, not the opening movement. Great stuff.
Judy,you’re great! And open mind,I had learned from you,that always we learn something new. I am judoka,since I was 11 years old.Now in mine 61,everything is changed😊congratulations!
Explode into your moves, make them come out of nowhere. Also you want to push them or direct them towards the opposite side you are trying to throw them, once you feel them countering it, explode into your throw into the opposite direction using the other guys momentum for your adventage.
Awesome to see you trying Judo! One thing to note is that, while it is important to establish your grips first, it's equally important to establish the RIGHT grips first. If you grip first but you grip with the wrong side, its worse than having no grips at all. For example, let's take a right handed judoka vs another right handed judoka. I'm a righty, so I've trained to turn to the left to execute all my throws, for a leftie, its the opposite. So if I'm fighting a leftie as a righty, and I instantly get a grip with my rear hand, I'm going to be thrown. While I did establish my grip first, because I gripped with the wrong side, it doesn't actually stop my opponent from turning to the right (the direction all his turning throws are trained in), I'm also attaching myself and basically giving him the throw. Griping first is extremely important! But remember to grip in accordance to your opponent!
Yeah Judo takes longer to pick up. That’s not a value statement on it-it just is true. I have a lot of BJJ friends who try to absorb Judo the same way they do BJJ: check out some stuff online, dabble in person, attempt to apply. But it’s just not like picking up a new guard or submission. Often times when you see someone who is really good at a specific Judo takedown, it’s because they’ve spent hundreds of hours on it. Not hundreds of hours in Judo, but hundreds of hours just on that takedown. As for Judo grips versus the BJJ bent over stance, I’d suggest high collar or over the top belt grips (Georgian grip). It’s not my A-game, but a lot of BJJ guys have no idea what to do from there and pulling guard from there basically makes your opponent assist with the guard pass.
Awesome. Judo was my first martial art at about 13 years old. So glad I took this first because it's very hard on the body but I loved it. I'm 39 now and I've competed nationally in TKD tournaments and open martial arts tournaments as well as Marine corps martial arts when I was in which made that a lot easier since I did Judo primarily. Awesome video.
I'm bjj purple belt and I also practice Sambo from some months. In my opinion in Judo and Sambo timing is very very important. Technique is effective if is done at the right moment with the correct weight distribution of you related of your opponent. I hope you will do other similar video where you explore other martial arts with the aims to improve your jiujitsu. And I think also
Love the content, but you brought the wrong belt to the Judo Dojo. Unless you've earned it, stick to white to show respect. Imagine the confusion of someone pulling up with a yellow/orange/green Judo belt at your BJJ practice.
Yasuo probably has the best and deepest uchimata I've ever seen. I was fortunate enough to have Yasuo and his coach from Hozen High School stay at my house and teach me Judo.
I slightly disagree about lowering hips for Uchi Mata. Not that it's bad. But there's a reason we call it the tall man's throw. Most comp Uchis are skipping Uchis with the bulk of your body slightly outside your opponent's. This way big men fighting other big men get around the central problem that they are both so strong no one can actually get into a throwing position. In fact even Uchi in Kata has you pulling uke in a circle so that you are slightly outside of them. Otherwise I think Uchi is a little similar to Harai Goshi but with a slightly different leg position.
Not true, there are different ways of doing uchi mata, depending on your body type. Taller guys will generally use what is known as 'leg' uchi mata, whereas, shorter guys will rely on 'hip' uchi mata. I wouldn't use kata as an example for competition throws
@@SV-bo8yn oh, absolutely. But int his case he was the taller fighter and was advised to lower his hips to match the shorter fighter - an approach that makes every sense for say o-goshi but in Uchi Mata I'd teach the taller fighter a big man's approach. It doesn't make much sense to have a taller fighter squatting on entry for an Uchi. I've been thrown by tall guys with Uchi from miles away.
Danzan Ryu Jiujitsu-ka here. Our sensei estimated that in over 50 years in judo/jiujitsu, he has done 250K uchikomi - I was teaching some white belts and they complained about the rigors of the uchikomi. I called Sensei over and asked him how many he’d done. “About 250,000”. He walks off and I turn to the white belts and say, “only 249,900 to go boys and girls!” Love judo…..
First Lift up your opponent’s right arm with your left arm, pulling away from your opponents right toward your outer left, to open up for tai otoshi. You also forgot to drop below your opponent’s center of gravity. I’ve been a Judoka since 1967. Try a combination of a feigned inside foot sweep on his right foot, his pulls the foot away which opens him up to many right-sided techniques including tai otoshi. Fun video!
for all the BJJ guys out there that are trying to use judo, the position he's in at 6:32 is actually the perfect position to hit uchimata, or in my case, osoto gari. usually in this case, if he's doing uchimata, he can enter an reap the inside of blue's left leg (the leg with the knee on the ground) and flip him over on his back. if he's doing osoto like me, then he can just step across and reap blue's right foot right off the ground. also, the hiza guruma (knee wheel) on blue's left leg is also available; block blue's left knee and turn him over on that knee. from what I've seen and experienced in my judo club, just about any foot technique that's available when your opponent is standing, should also be available when your opponent has one or both knees on the ground. from what I've seen in my judo club, whenever someone puts one knee on the ground like that, it's game over, especially if they're going up against brown belts and above.
You have to off balance the guy before going for throws and trips. Danaher teaches this beautifully in feet to floor. Use your superior grips to move your opponents head and center of mass off the axis of his base of support
@@jedidoesjiujitsu3177 stance, grip, movement, KAZUSHI then throw. If their head is behind base of support throw them backward, if it’s forward throw them forward. Side to side you have a light foot and a heavy foot. Sweep the light foot or attack the heavy foot with some power
Your video ideas are refreshing in the BJJ world. You combine your creativity with BJJ. My kids love your kids. You can start your own series for kids. Keep it up.
Just stumbled by this channel. Loved the video, hope they continue be like this. Newly Subscribed at the moment. You look like my older brother a lot. I mean a lot lol.
As a Judoka (Brown Belt) who trains BJJ too (white Belt) i think you should learn a good Sumi Gaeshi. Thats good against people who stand low like in BJJ.
Quick tip (only do this in hard rolls): Do not let people stand up on you if you have good grips( like at 6:21) . Any backward throw will work. It is a very fundamental mistake to rise to opponent who has superior (or even neutral) grips to you. But please make it obvious that you're going hard before this.
Never realised just how different Judo is from stand up BJJ. The key difference is not even noted and that is the use of the grip to break balance and set up throws. Ju is about accommodating or harmonising with the opponent such that the opponents own movements are used to create opportunities, think of using your grip to turn your opponents leg grab into your uchimata.
Love this Real martial artists respect and learn from each other I never understood the bjj v Judoka mentality? Both are the same, but also different The best martial art is the one you enjoy and are more dedicated to learn I'm a judoka first, but training BJJ, especially nogi has improved my newza leaps and bounds Awesome video 👍
Lots of Brazilians have Judo experience. Its a very popular sport in Brazil. A good dude to watch is Travis Stevens. Hes a BB Judo Olympian and a BB in jitz with pretty highlevel competition. The Camarillo brothers are legit Judo/Jitz guys. Theres wuite a few that have experience doing both. I started in Judo and ended up doing alot of MMA related sports like Jitz for example. I never lost the Judo. You need to learn to take the things from Judo that work in MMA and Jitz and forget the rest that is only useful in Judo. I think the most important lesson from Judo is the art and knowledge of off balancing and kuzushi and also understanding to use the appropriate tools for the specific job. For example if someone pushes into you as an aggressor or a counter you would use a forward throw and use their power/momentum rather than go force vs. force which is more of a wrestling style. Work smart not hard. Jitz has the same concept. Flow with the go. Use the opponents aggressions and attacks against them if possible rather than going head to head constantly. Learn the 8x off balancing directions(not rocket science-but surprisingly misunderstood).
I have a purple belt in Japanese JJ, and I find the biggest differences between JJJ, Judo, and BJJ is that Judo is mostly throws, BJJ is mostly grappling, and JJJ is some of each, so JJJ has better throws than BJJ, but worse grappling. And worse throws than Judo, but better grappling. (generally)
If you learn more judo, you become a nightmare to take down. You posture gets better in life. And your sens of balance between you and your opponent goes off the chart. Even when your on the ground. Judo is really your grappling foundation, bjj is just a cherry on top. However everybody loves cherries, because Judo is just hard on your body, and way harder to learn. It takes a certain dog personality to really understand it. Go train with Travis stevens team.
You should find an old-style Judo dojo. Modern, olympic judo is way too focused on standing. Back in the days ('80s) referees allowed for much longer ne-waza action. Minutes. They would stop you only after a relatively long time of zero progress. Ne-waza wasn't considered a inferior phase, to be stopped ASAP at the first excuse to do so. For that reason, there was a much higher focus on throws as a mean to transition smoothly into ne-waza (and maybe get minor points in the process) rather than the ippon or nothing mindset of today. Many fights would end in ne-waza, not always with a submission but also a pindown. Today it may seem it's easiers (shorter timer) but in reality they don't really give you the time to work your way and acquire control on the ground. Today's Judo can be helpful still, but much less than old style Judo for sure. With old style Judo you basicly learn how to switch to ne-waza w/o loosing the advantage you acquired while standing. It's a very very deep topic that can't really be summarized in YT comments. Suffice to say that today's focus on the points you score immediately as the result of the throw changed how those throws are performed, even sometimes creating situations where you throw someone in such a bad way that you end up in a horrible position on the ground (e.g. giving up your back), but due to modern rules you're awarded an ippon, so nobody cares if the transition into ne-waza was bad. Back in the days, the very concept of ippon was centered on the idea of such a powerful and well-executed throw that left your opponent in your complete control (and possibly slightly in shock).
Watching Jedi go and train with elite practitioners in other grappling martial arts then coming back and trying to integrate them in his BJJ would be a great series to watch. For example like: Sambo, Japanese jiu-jitsu, catch wrestling, Luta Livre etc...
good vid Jedi!
Agreed….fun idea. I’d def watch.
Luta livre is literally just no - gi
@@albertcohee7757 It's not but ok...
@@albertcohee7757Luta Livre is Brazilian catch wrestling. No-gi ju-jitsu is derived from GJJ. They are competing paradigms of grappling and they differ on their respective training philosophies.
I wanna see jedi try lightweight sumo. itd be fun
Love the ending lmao. Sick video, Jedi. I am the reverse of you somewhat. I trained Judo for just over 3 years, then a few years later started BJJ. I'm also 3 years deep into BJJ and Judo has definitely given me a massive advantage over most people on the feet, not just people my rank. I think a big part of that is actually understanding grips and my weight distribution. You should stick with it and see what you think! Btw, I sometimes let my opponents try single or double leg me, just so I can grab an overhook and harai goshi their soul into the mat. Please try do this in your next judo video ;)
Lol @ soulz >:]
God damn, why didnt i think of that - also sounds epic
As a Judo player for 40 years and a BJJ player for 5 years, the BJJ stance is very easy to overcome. It's a very unstable stance and common amongst beginners, you grip the back of their collar step back and drive their face into the mat, it's a cruel to be kind type of thing.
Dominanting the grip is key in Judo, as soon as you have your grip attack.
Bicep curls will help you achieve a strong grip.
I did BJJ to help my newaza in Judo, and it certainly did help.
I always preferred Judo, I felt I have a good scap and could let a bit more steam off than BJJ.
Both great sports.
Which do u think would be better for street application?
@matkasim Personally, I would advocate trying your utmost to keep out of any street alterations even if it means running away.
There are way too many variables such as knives, etc.
However, if it comes down to having to use self defence, then I was taught never to go to the ground with an assailant as they're freinds may be round the corner and you'd be outnumbered and vulnerable.
I was taught this by an ex paratrooper, so that makes a lot of sense to be me.
Therefore, I would have to say Judo every time.
If you throw someone hard enough, they are not going to get up in a hurry.
@@matkasim BJJ is quicker to learn and easier on the joints. Judo is probably better because you can get a dominant takedown then ground and pound. Otherwise look learn to box for a few months then start grappling sport or just carry a legal self-defense weapon.
If you learn Judo with the focus on self defense you can pick it up pretty quickly, since competitive Judo and old-school Judo focus on very different things.
Any martial art is better than no martial art. But between the two Judo is class and BJJ is good.
You can also always do both...
I’ve always wanted to learn judo. You can’t pull guard on everyone
its hard and it will only benefit your bjj in a gi environment
@@josephsussex4885 really? So does that mean to pull it off no gi I’d have to be really high level?
@@Mcginnty948 no judo works plenty well with no gi.
@@Mcginnty948 I'd argue its even easier in no-gi. You have to combine it with wrestling though. Its basically what the DDS and B Team guys do for takedowns.
Throwing mechanics are throwing mechanics. If you’re doing no-gi while you’re doing Judo you’ll be fine. You’ll just learn to adjust your grips and stuff accordingly. The fundamental mechanics and timing are largely the same.
I’ve found your channel recently after having started BJJ after 7 years of Judo
Uchi mata is the hardest throw in Judo. The reason your throws weren’t working vs the one that did is you didn’t off balance you opponent first - that’s what the warm up drill is for, you’re not just drilling the entry but the kuzushi to off balance your opponent or the technique won’t work - you’re pulling their arms up to get their heels off the floor so they get thrown easily and lightly versus force.
Keep going. Well done - that foot sweep is hard to get.
Also if in close frame your top grip forearm against their chest - it helps you control the distance and stops people getting under you. He used this on you many times when not attacking if you watch
Uchi Mata isn’t that hard
@@JayC07 True, judoka always make things more complicated for some reason.
Uchi mata is definitely one of the hardest throws to pull off. There's a reason you never see it in wrestling or low to mid level judo. You'll see it a lot in BJJ because most BJJ guys can't defend takedowns
@@josephfontelera8881 if you watch high level Judo you actually see it all the time. It’s a high percentage technique which as stated in the video is a hip technique, not a leg technique.
Even if you don’t hit it, the entry usually leads to some secondary attacks. It’s quite safe generally speaking. To get it right and pull it off at a moment notice. It’s definitely hard to do well.
There’s a few different ways of doing it, but against a BJJ person with a low stance, if you can get in deep with your step it’s very likely you’ll catch them. It’s not judo people making things harder. Done right it IS harder. Ken-Ken uchimata less so, but you’ll struggle to pull that off without athleticism against someone good who doesn’t over commit their weight, which a good judoka won’t
I would politely disagree that uchi mata is not the hardest throw to learn in judo. There are many factors involved in how "hard" a throw is to learn in judo. Some factors may include your body and its mechanics, as well as the coach (or coaches) you are learning uchi mata from. Other factors can be the size, shape and experience of your training partner(s) and the consistency in which you choose or receive the opportunity to practice certain techniques, like uchi mata.
What might be a "hard" throw for you to learn, could be "easy" for someone else to learn. So, perhaps for you, uchi mata has been one of, or maybe the hardest throw in judo for you to do, personally.
I have been training in judo for over 14 years, and coaching judo for six or seven years, being one of the coaches at the club I'm at. Uchi mata is my favourite throw, as I am a fairly tall person (6'3 / 193cm) with long legs. In the past, I always found uchi mata difficult to do, and to be absolutely honest, my former coaches at my previous club were not good at uchi mata, and because they rarely performed it during their 'judo careers', they did not quite know how to do and teach uchi mata to others. They very much favoured other techniques, like seoi nage.
About seven or eight years ago, we had a guest coach from another state run a weekend training camp (or seminar) and he is a 6th dan red and white belt. He showed me a different way to do uchi mata, and his way to do uchi mata was quite beneficial for someone with long legs, someone like me. I loved this variation, felt comfortable doing it, and have been doing it ever since.
My former coaches are very "old school". They strictly believe (or believed, I don't know if they've changed their mind) that kuzushi (breaking one's balance) means pulling someone up on their toes toward you. With respect, this is not entirely true, it's not so black and white.
"Kuzushi" literally means "to level, pull down, destroy or demolish". In a judo sense, it is indeed breaking someone's balance, forcing them to become unbalanced, but this can be achieved in many ways, not just one. For example, if you were to grip someone, force their head to the side (so the top of their head was effectively facing a wall) and their spine becomes somewhat curved similar to an upside down 'L', then their posture is broken, and so is their balance. They are now vulnerable. Without going into too much detail (and it might sound weird) but this is how I utilise my uchi mata.
While there are many throws in judo, there are many different ways to do said throws. When it comes to formal demonstration for the purpose of belt grading/promotion, you would usually have to showcase throws in their original or traditional manner (which can seriously suck, I am terrible at the "traditional" uchi mata) but when it comes to randori (free practice, fighting/sparring) and/or shiai (competition), you can do a throw in whatever way you feel comfortable (as long as it's within the rules of judo competition, of course). Furthermore, while there are many throws in judo, a judoka (judo practitioner) will probably only be "really good" at a select few, say three or five throws.
Stoked to see you try out judo! Gotta put in the reps bro. Being able to train with other body types is a game changer. If you learn to do uchimata with the same 5'5'' dude its not gonna translate when you go with the 6'2'' person. Btw at 5:01 hes actually going for osoto gari not tai otoshi.
Its pretty cool that you are keeping an open mind and cross training to benefit your BJJ. Judo has a STEEP learning curve and learning it for for BJJ takes A LONG time to get good because the reactions you get from a BJJ guy versus a judo guy is completely different. The BJJ guy will keep their hips back and low to take shots and not grip fight as much, a judoka will stay up right, grip fight, and circle a lot while attacking foot sweeps to set up the big throw. Once you find the balance between both arts you'll have a MASSIVE advantage on the mat. I've done BJJ for 24 years and Judo for about 20 and I'm still trying to figure it out. LOL! Good luck on your journey!
Thats modern style that they stand more upright tho. Before they ban leg attacks it was kinda different.
@tyvonable yeah it made 3 range Judo. But, you get bigger throws now. It's a give in take. Legs will come back.
Great video, I've been training Judo with some of my friends who are national and international competitors, I feel it's helped my BJJ game dramatically. Thanks for the free content!
There's a reason that Rickson and Renzo have BB in judo. Good training
Judo for the sake of judo is very different than judo for bjj for the mere fact of grip and posture. Uchi mata is the king of all throws in my opinion every competent judoka has some variation of uchi mata in their game. But I suggest learning a good very solid Koshi guruma and ogoshi before learning straight up uchi mata since it’s a pendulum technique (in others words has complex body mechanics to have a really good one) tip on judo techniques kozuchi (off balance pulling motion) is everything with good strong kozuchi your already 50% there to throwing someone next time you try judo focus on the pull more than anything else and you’ll see how the rest comes naturally
Great video Jedi
Percentage wise osoto then ouchi are the most successful throws for ippon
I coach judo at my bjj gym and I was waiting for jedi to just go "yeah this shit is frustrating", love seeing some sticky foot action there
I'd NEVER mess with a good Judoka. The man will hit you with a planet.
As a Judoka first love this. Quality as always Jedi! Rock on!
BJJ = Kosen Judo = The Judo that was "lost" when it started becoming a sport - for the most part. I love it.
I will never forget that ending🤣
I'm now a yellow belt in judo, you were definitely better than me on my first day! Good job! 🥳
Also that's a quote I want on my tombstone, "people always say that I end things to abruptly, so this time I'm gonna-"
he's a bjj brown belt, he knows a bit of judo
He has more experience than you in Tachi waza.
As a Judo Purple belt and BJJ Blue (and almost purple) I got to say.. it takes a long time to master takedowns, maybe thousands of repetitions to really get good in one or two. Uchi Mata is also very difficult in BJJ due to the long and long posture, it is not something I try often. Leg sweeps (ashis) and Drop Morote/Seoi work good.
Judoka here. Good efforts with the uchi mata. These throws are really hard and technical. You have to put so many reps in to get it really clean and fluid. I bet if you keep at it for 6 months / a year it will be your go to throw! Also lovely sweep there against the blue belt. Nice!
Great effort!
That "tai otoshi" you are attempting and that was attempted on you is actually a "ko-soto-gari."
Tai = body
Otoshi = drop
ko = minor
soto = outside
gari = sweep
Remember to get your hips close and under and then use your leg! Keep trying!
Okay, when you are rolling in BJJ, the issue is that he isn't put in a position where he could conceivably fall anyway. He's completely balanced and you are shooting your leg in in hope. Work less on the trip and more on establishing kusushi. A trip is a finisher to kusushi, not the opening movement. Great stuff.
Awesome stuff Jedi. We have some high level judokas at our academy. Pays dividends to keep those grips for sure
osoto is the throw he went for, not ti otoshi
Okay I wasn't the only one thinking that
Judy,you’re great! And open mind,I had learned from you,that always we learn something new. I am judoka,since I was 11 years old.Now in mine 61,everything is changed😊congratulations!
Explode into your moves, make them come out of nowhere. Also you want to push them or direct them towards the opposite side you are trying to throw them, once you feel them countering it, explode into your throw into the opposite direction using the other guys momentum for your adventage.
Dude this is awesome! I highly recommend keeping up with the judo to supplement your jiu jitsu! They are truly meant to be together.
Awesome to see you trying Judo! One thing to note is that, while it is important to establish your grips first, it's equally important to establish the RIGHT grips first. If you grip first but you grip with the wrong side, its worse than having no grips at all. For example, let's take a right handed judoka vs another right handed judoka. I'm a righty, so I've trained to turn to the left to execute all my throws, for a leftie, its the opposite. So if I'm fighting a leftie as a righty, and I instantly get a grip with my rear hand, I'm going to be thrown. While I did establish my grip first, because I gripped with the wrong side, it doesn't actually stop my opponent from turning to the right (the direction all his turning throws are trained in), I'm also attaching myself and basically giving him the throw.
Griping first is extremely important! But remember to grip in accordance to your opponent!
You can see that Judoka was being very respectful, as they all seem to do,
Yeah Judo takes longer to pick up. That’s not a value statement on it-it just is true. I have a lot of BJJ friends who try to absorb Judo the same way they do BJJ: check out some stuff online, dabble in person, attempt to apply.
But it’s just not like picking up a new guard or submission. Often times when you see someone who is really good at a specific Judo takedown, it’s because they’ve spent hundreds of hours on it. Not hundreds of hours in Judo, but hundreds of hours just on that takedown.
As for Judo grips versus the BJJ bent over stance, I’d suggest high collar or over the top belt grips (Georgian grip). It’s not my A-game, but a lot of BJJ guys have no idea what to do from there and pulling guard from there basically makes your opponent assist with the guard pass.
Had me chuckling through this whole video. Love the Judo content, as well as the sims background music!
Awesome. Judo was my first martial art at about 13 years old. So glad I took this first because it's very hard on the body but I loved it. I'm 39 now and I've competed nationally in TKD tournaments and open martial arts tournaments as well as Marine corps martial arts when I was in which made that a lot easier since I did Judo primarily. Awesome video.
Jedi appreciate your video, continue your Judo practice. 6 months from now your training Partners will be catching hell
I'm bjj purple belt and I also practice Sambo from some months. In my opinion in Judo and Sambo timing is very very important. Technique is effective if is done at the right moment with the correct weight distribution of you related of your opponent. I hope you will do other similar video where you explore other martial arts with the aims to improve your jiujitsu. And I think also
The ending earned yourself a new subscriber 😂😂😂
Let's ask Travis Stevens
“An Olympic level judoka” bro he is a literal Master… you were finished from the start😭😭
New channel "Jedi does judo" when? But seriously more of these videos would be golden
I just found your channel and honestly you're very entertaining
Love the content, but you brought the wrong belt to the Judo Dojo. Unless you've earned it, stick to white to show respect. Imagine the confusion of someone pulling up with a yellow/orange/green Judo belt at your BJJ practice.
Yasuo probably has the best and deepest uchimata I've ever seen. I was fortunate enough to have Yasuo and his coach from Hozen High School stay at my house and teach me Judo.
You're such a cool guy. Building your style and pushing your boundaries. The modern Martial Artist.
I slightly disagree about lowering hips for Uchi Mata. Not that it's bad. But there's a reason we call it the tall man's throw. Most comp Uchis are skipping Uchis with the bulk of your body slightly outside your opponent's. This way big men fighting other big men get around the central problem that they are both so strong no one can actually get into a throwing position. In fact even Uchi in Kata has you pulling uke in a circle so that you are slightly outside of them. Otherwise I think Uchi is a little similar to Harai Goshi but with a slightly different leg position.
Not true, there are different ways of doing uchi mata, depending on your body type. Taller guys will generally use what is known as 'leg' uchi mata, whereas, shorter guys will rely on 'hip' uchi mata.
I wouldn't use kata as an example for competition throws
@@SV-bo8yn oh, absolutely. But int his case he was the taller fighter and was advised to lower his hips to match the shorter fighter - an approach that makes every sense for say o-goshi but in Uchi Mata I'd teach the taller fighter a big man's approach. It doesn't make much sense to have a taller fighter squatting on entry for an Uchi. I've been thrown by tall guys with Uchi from miles away.
8:53 Osoto gari attempt, not tai otoshi. Excellent vid.
dude, for a first time class you had a REALLY good aplication of what you learned, if you keep practicing it will be really good for your JJ!!
Danzan Ryu Jiujitsu-ka here. Our sensei estimated that in over 50 years in judo/jiujitsu, he has done 250K uchikomi - I was teaching some white belts and they complained about the rigors of the uchikomi. I called Sensei over and asked him how many he’d done. “About 250,000”. He walks off and I turn to the white belts and say, “only 249,900 to go boys and girls!” Love judo…..
First Lift up your opponent’s right arm with your left arm, pulling away from your opponents right toward your outer left, to open up for tai otoshi. You also forgot to drop below your opponent’s center of gravity. I’ve been a Judoka since 1967. Try a combination of a feigned inside foot sweep on his right foot, his pulls the foot away which opens him up to many right-sided techniques including tai otoshi. Fun video!
MA BOOIIIII, nothing beats you commentaries. 🤣
Thanks for the luv
for all the BJJ guys out there that are trying to use judo, the position he's in at 6:32 is actually the perfect position to hit uchimata, or in my case, osoto gari. usually in this case, if he's doing uchimata, he can enter an reap the inside of blue's left leg (the leg with the knee on the ground) and flip him over on his back. if he's doing osoto like me, then he can just step across and reap blue's right foot right off the ground. also, the hiza guruma (knee wheel) on blue's left leg is also available; block blue's left knee and turn him over on that knee. from what I've seen and experienced in my judo club, just about any foot technique that's available when your opponent is standing, should also be available when your opponent has one or both knees on the ground. from what I've seen in my judo club, whenever someone puts one knee on the ground like that, it's game over, especially if they're going up against brown belts and above.
Those videos are so well done wtf man
You have to off balance the guy before going for throws and trips. Danaher teaches this beautifully in feet to floor. Use your superior grips to move your opponents head and center of mass off the axis of his base of support
Definitely more room for improvement
@@jedidoesjiujitsu3177 stance, grip, movement, KAZUSHI then throw. If their head is behind base of support throw them backward, if it’s forward throw them forward. Side to side you have a light foot and a heavy foot. Sweep the light foot or attack the heavy foot with some power
I caught that uno reverse in there, cheeky bastard.
Not Tai Otoshi, was more of an O-Soro
The Judo stance you showed looks exactly like how we clinch in Muay Thai
Elden Ring music during a Judo demonstration, what a time to be alive
It's great seeing you give Judo a try, and I'm resisting the want to "um, actually" what you called some of the throws and terms.
Your video ideas are refreshing in the BJJ world. You combine your creativity with BJJ. My kids love your kids. You can start your own series for kids. Keep it up.
5:00 that's o-soto-gari
Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking
Purely liking because of the abrupt end 😂
Best thing about Judo for BJJ is once you have that grip fighting down your opponents will get intimidated and just give up and pull guard
3:48 This sequence made me laugh 😂
Jedi's face 🤔
Otoguro was a great player in Japan, but he did not go to the Olympics or win a silver medal
For one class it isn't bad at all, obviously could use a decent amount of improvement but not terrible
Just stumbled by this channel. Loved the video, hope they continue be like this. Newly Subscribed at the moment. You look like my older brother a lot. I mean a lot lol.
it'd be interesting to see no gi version of Judo
As a Judoka (Brown Belt) who trains BJJ too (white Belt) i think you should learn a good Sumi Gaeshi. Thats good against people who stand low like in BJJ.
7:28 Alejandro blew up in 4k fr fr 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Judo is a great Martial Art to end fights very quickly especially against untrained opponents.
That Judo move didn't work because, you needed more momentum and more commitment.
kinda bold to wear your bjj belt there
Quick tip (only do this in hard rolls): Do not let people stand up on you if you have good grips( like at 6:21) . Any backward throw will work. It is a very fundamental mistake to rise to opponent who has superior (or even neutral) grips to you. But please make it obvious that you're going hard before this.
In judo we don’t call it rolling we call it randori
@@JayC07 I know. Any judoka will know this concept well. I was targeting the comment at BJJ practitioners.
Love ya work Jedi 🙏🏼
Did you get a chance to go with Marchal? That guy was The Man back in the 80s. Looks like he’s stayed in great shape.
The ending was subscribe worthy.
Never realised just how different Judo is from stand up BJJ. The key difference is not even noted and that is the use of the grip to break balance and set up throws. Ju is about accommodating or harmonising with the opponent such that the opponents own movements are used to create opportunities, think of using your grip to turn your opponents leg grab into your uchimata.
nailed the outro.
judo and bjj are the same (if trained as a martial art) they only differentiate when you include the sport score system🤔👈
The ending was perfection.
Love this
Real martial artists respect and learn from each other
I never understood the bjj v Judoka mentality? Both are the same, but also different
The best martial art is the one you enjoy and are more dedicated to learn
I'm a judoka first, but training BJJ, especially nogi has improved my newza leaps and bounds
Awesome video 👍
Do what you enjoy. I like to get a mix of everything. That’s the type of gamer I am
@@jedidoesjiujitsu3177 wise words brother!
BJJ= Basically Just Judo
Not at all you’re slow
@@rafalrak9004 it's more like *Culturally appropriated judo*
@@rafalrak9004I think it's a joke
Lots of Brazilians have Judo experience. Its a very popular sport in Brazil.
A good dude to watch is Travis Stevens. Hes a BB Judo Olympian and a BB in jitz with pretty highlevel competition. The Camarillo brothers are legit Judo/Jitz guys. Theres wuite a few that have experience doing both.
I started in Judo and ended up doing alot of MMA related sports like Jitz for example. I never lost the Judo. You need to learn to take the things from Judo that work in MMA and Jitz and forget the rest that is only useful in Judo. I think the most important lesson from Judo is the art and knowledge of off balancing and kuzushi and also understanding to use the appropriate tools for the specific job. For example if someone pushes into you as an aggressor or a counter you would use a forward throw and use their power/momentum rather than go force vs. force which is more of a wrestling style. Work smart not hard. Jitz has the same concept. Flow with the go. Use the opponents aggressions and attacks against them if possible rather than going head to head constantly. Learn the 8x off balancing directions(not rocket science-but surprisingly misunderstood).
I have a purple belt in Japanese JJ, and I find the biggest differences between JJJ, Judo, and BJJ is that Judo is mostly throws, BJJ is mostly grappling, and JJJ is some of each, so JJJ has better throws than BJJ, but worse grappling. And worse throws than Judo, but better grappling. (generally)
@Jedi Go to Shintaro Higashi in new york he is also a youtuber and a BJJ brownbelt. He xould probably show you some JUDO technix to use in BJJ
As always, great stuff. And for those that can’t read between the lines, I think you have a red state kind of mind.
Go on learning judo. It will improve your Bjj. Im a judo1st dan, also a bjj blue belt.
The top pressure game in ne-waza is insane too
Great video man.
hahahah loved the end! Awesome mate
who the hell taught you that was tai otoshi
Conclusion was smooth af
If you learn more judo, you become a nightmare to take down. You posture gets better in life. And your sens of balance between you and your opponent goes off the chart. Even when your on the ground. Judo is really your grappling foundation, bjj is just a cherry on top. However everybody loves cherries, because Judo is just hard on your body, and way harder to learn. It takes a certain dog personality to really understand it. Go train with Travis stevens team.
You should find an old-style Judo dojo.
Modern, olympic judo is way too focused on standing. Back in the days ('80s) referees allowed for much longer ne-waza action. Minutes. They would stop you only after a relatively long time of zero progress. Ne-waza wasn't considered a inferior phase, to be stopped ASAP at the first excuse to do so.
For that reason, there was a much higher focus on throws as a mean to transition smoothly into ne-waza (and maybe get minor points in the process) rather than the ippon or nothing mindset of today. Many fights would end in ne-waza, not always with a submission but also a pindown. Today it may seem it's easiers (shorter timer) but in reality they don't really give you the time to work your way and acquire control on the ground.
Today's Judo can be helpful still, but much less than old style Judo for sure. With old style Judo you basicly learn how to switch to ne-waza w/o loosing the advantage you acquired while standing.
It's a very very deep topic that can't really be summarized in YT comments. Suffice to say that today's focus on the points you score immediately as the result of the throw changed how those throws are performed, even sometimes creating situations where you throw someone in such a bad way that you end up in a horrible position on the ground (e.g. giving up your back), but due to modern rules you're awarded an ippon, so nobody cares if the transition into ne-waza was bad. Back in the days, the very concept of ippon was centered on the idea of such a powerful and well-executed throw that left your opponent in your complete control (and possibly slightly in shock).
Great video! I learned and laughed.😂
Grew up doing Judo. Then transitioned into old man BJJ. Same same but different.
Brilliant ending!
Bent knees are to keep mobility. Over straight legs are just slow. and it is not Judo specific. boxes have slightly bend knees.
phenomenal ending
Went in thinking the Judo would be my favorite part but finding out it was the ending 🤣
Liked for the ending.
Everything grappling art you do will just help you in your overall ability.
Great ending. Smooth...
Do the ushiha when the guys stand up using their leg that they use for getting up
Jedi as a judoka I'll tell you that you keep letting go of your sleeve grip when attempting uchimata. commit to the turn and keep that grip