Good topic, wrong conclusion. Minibuses and dolmuşs cause a lot of traffic because they stop anywhere to pick up and drop off passengers. This is a nightmare for car drivers as you can imagine. It causes traffic, requires extra attention, thus extra stress. Minibus, dolmuş drivers and owners consist of mostly uneducated, shady people and their mafia-like union causes problems for the municipalities in the way of implementing better solutions like metro, train, buses or metrobuses.
In theory it is awesome, but the drivers can be problematic and I heard -as a rumor to be honest- that the building of the metro in the Anatolian Side was delayed due to mafia associated with Dolmuş drivers :) I still have used them a lot -especially the yellow dolmuşes when I was living in Istanbul-, it was impossible to go to the place I lived without them
Even on this footage we can see how much chaos those minibuses are bringing to the streets. Maybe it's interesting to discover it for a few days and then go back home, but using those minibuses everyday all your life is not so pleasant.
Especially with the dolmuş, you can wave it down at anytime. Unlike busses in Western Europe that only stop at bus stops, if you know the path of a dolmuş, you can flag it any any point and hasten your journey!
You pay cash to whom the drive don't pay any tax which event don't own licence plate that was owned by some rich people. There should be cheap public transportation system not a criminal organization intervened.
I sincerely invite you to Ukraine, where you will be able to experience the "beauty" of this mode of transport. By the way, we have had an electronic ticketing system in minibuses for five years now. However, Ukrainian passengers are not as enthusiastic as Dutch tourists. This is not surprising. Ukrainian minibuses are old, dirty, overcrowded, in poor technical condition, and drivers do not want to pick up privileged passengers (although the law requires them to). By the way in all Ukrainian cities fares in minibuses or "marshrutka" are higher than any other mode of transport. Of course, thats because trams and trolleybuses are subsidized (by the way, not enough and thats why they are terrible condition). Typical fare in minibuses are from 10 to 18 UAH = 0,24-0,24€ which is one of the cheapest fares in the world (trams and trolleys even cheaper). And what about accessibility ♿ and electrification? :) Oh, yeah! We only need to wait when batteries become cheaper technology :D
Riding a bicycle is a great way to exercise. Ebikes are bringing many older adults back to cycling. Cities need to do more to encourage people to ride bicycles. Safe protected bike lanes and trails are needed so adults and children can ride safely. Speak up for bicycles in your community. Bicycles make life and cities better. Ask your local transportation planner and elected officials to support more protected bike lanes and trails. Children should be riding a bicycle to school and not be driven in a minivan. Be healthier and happier. Ride a bicycle regularly.
Cities need to do more to encourage people to ride bicycles. Safe protected bike lanes and trails are needed so adults and children can ride safely. Speak up for bicycles in your community. Bicycles make life and cities better. Ask your local transportation planner and elected officials to support more protected bike lanes and trails. Children should be riding a bicycle to school and not be driven in a minivan.
Bicycles, ebikes, electric cargo bicycles, robo taxis and escooters are great options for last mile, short distance travel. Reduced transportation costs and fossil fuels free transportation. Cities need to do more to encourage people to ride bicycles by providing SAFE, PROTECTED BIKE LANES and trails. Every adult and child should own a bicycle and ride it regularly. Bicycles are healthy exercise and fossil fuels free transportation. Electric bicycles are bringing many older adults back to cycling. Ride to work, ride to school, ride for health or ride for fun. Children should be able to ride a bicycle to school without having to dodge cars and trucks. Separated and protected bike lanes are required. It will also make the roads safer for automobile drivers. Transportation planners and elected officials need to encourage people to walk, bike and take public transportation. Healthy exercise and fossil fuels free transportation. In the future cities will be redesigned for people not cars. Crazy big parking lots will be transformed with solar canopies generating free energy from the sun.
It is not unique to Istanbul. Post-Soviet countries like Russia or Ukraine have them and they have a plethora of problems. They steal passengers from other modes of transport, but only for the most profitable routes, which makes operating other modes of transport more expensive. They usually accept cash and don't pay taxes from this. There are issues with safety. Including those guys in public transport system is usually very problematic, because they want to accept cash and don't want to accept other modes of payment - because they don't want transparency.
It might seem in the first place that the minibus system supports the bus system, however in some cases it is the opposite, because of the minibus mafia, there very rare bus services to some neighborhoods, just left to the unreliable minibuses, and where the minibuses are the only possible option for public transport, they even become more unreliable since there is no other alternative for the passenger, more relaxed with their schedule, so even without considering their disregard of the traffic rules to collect a few more passengers, the minibuses harm people's impression of the public transport quite a lot. Many people like me don't use them at all. Personally, I would prefer to wait for a bus for an hour instead of taking a minibus.
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Might want to add official subtitles. The autogenerated ones dont pickup most of what is said.
Yup, almost nothing was translated, best to add official subtitles.
Thanks for flagging this! We do include revised subtitles in all our videos, but we don't know what happened this time. It should be fine now! ☺
Good topic, wrong conclusion.
Minibuses and dolmuşs cause a lot of traffic because they stop anywhere to pick up and drop off passengers. This is a nightmare for car drivers as you can imagine. It causes traffic, requires extra attention, thus extra stress.
Minibus, dolmuş drivers and owners consist of mostly uneducated, shady people and their mafia-like union causes problems for the municipalities in the way of implementing better solutions like metro, train, buses or metrobuses.
ı prefer rail systems rather than dolmuş as an İstanbul living person ..thnx 🎯
In theory it is awesome, but the drivers can be problematic and I heard -as a rumor to be honest- that the building of the metro in the Anatolian Side was delayed due to mafia associated with Dolmuş drivers :) I still have used them a lot -especially the yellow dolmuşes when I was living in Istanbul-, it was impossible to go to the place I lived without them
Even on this footage we can see how much chaos those minibuses are bringing to the streets. Maybe it's interesting to discover it for a few days and then go back home, but using those minibuses everyday all your life is not so pleasant.
Especially with the dolmuş, you can wave it down at anytime. Unlike busses in Western Europe that only stop at bus stops, if you know the path of a dolmuş, you can flag it any any point and hasten your journey!
You pay cash to whom the drive don't pay any tax which event don't own licence plate that was owned by some rich people. There should be cheap public transportation system not a criminal organization intervened.
I sincerely invite you to Ukraine, where you will be able to experience the "beauty" of this mode of transport. By the way, we have had an electronic ticketing system in minibuses for five years now. However, Ukrainian passengers are not as enthusiastic as Dutch tourists. This is not surprising. Ukrainian minibuses are old, dirty, overcrowded, in poor technical condition, and drivers do not want to pick up privileged passengers (although the law requires them to).
By the way in all Ukrainian cities fares in minibuses or "marshrutka" are higher than any other mode of transport. Of course, thats because trams and trolleybuses are subsidized (by the way, not enough and thats why they are terrible condition). Typical fare in minibuses are from 10 to 18 UAH = 0,24-0,24€ which is one of the cheapest fares in the world (trams and trolleys even cheaper).
And what about accessibility ♿ and electrification? :) Oh, yeah! We only need to wait when batteries become cheaper technology :D
Minibuses? What next - you will adore matatus in Kenya :) ?
Riding a bicycle is a great way to exercise. Ebikes are bringing many older adults back to cycling.
Cities need to do more to encourage people to ride bicycles. Safe protected bike lanes and trails are needed so adults and children can ride safely. Speak up for bicycles in your community. Bicycles make life and cities better. Ask your local transportation planner and elected officials to support more protected bike lanes and trails. Children should be riding a bicycle to school and not be driven in a minivan. Be healthier and happier. Ride a bicycle regularly.
i always wanna try dolmus as a foreigner :)
Cities need to do more to encourage people to ride bicycles. Safe protected bike lanes and trails are needed so adults and children can ride safely. Speak up for bicycles in your community. Bicycles make life and cities better. Ask your local transportation planner and elected officials to support more protected bike lanes and trails. Children should be riding a bicycle to school and not be driven in a minivan.
Bicycles, ebikes, electric cargo bicycles, robo taxis and escooters are great options for last mile, short distance travel.
Reduced transportation costs and fossil fuels free transportation.
Cities need to do more to encourage people to ride bicycles by providing SAFE, PROTECTED BIKE LANES and trails. Every adult and child should own a bicycle and ride it regularly. Bicycles are healthy exercise and fossil fuels free transportation. Electric bicycles are bringing many older adults back to cycling. Ride to work, ride to school, ride for health or ride for fun. Children should be able to ride a bicycle to school without having to dodge cars and trucks. Separated and protected bike lanes are required. It will also make the roads safer for automobile drivers. Transportation planners and elected officials need to encourage people to walk, bike and take public transportation. Healthy exercise and fossil fuels free transportation. In the future cities will be redesigned for people not cars. Crazy big parking lots will be transformed with solar canopies generating free energy from the sun.
It is not unique to Istanbul. Post-Soviet countries like Russia or Ukraine have them and they have a plethora of problems. They steal passengers from other modes of transport, but only for the most profitable routes, which makes operating other modes of transport more expensive. They usually accept cash and don't pay taxes from this. There are issues with safety.
Including those guys in public transport system is usually very problematic, because they want to accept cash and don't want to accept other modes of payment - because they don't want transparency.
It might seem in the first place that the minibus system supports the bus system, however in some cases it is the opposite, because of the minibus mafia, there very rare bus services to some neighborhoods, just left to the unreliable minibuses, and where the minibuses are the only possible option for public transport, they even become more unreliable since there is no other alternative for the passenger, more relaxed with their schedule, so even without considering their disregard of the traffic rules to collect a few more passengers, the minibuses harm people's impression of the public transport quite a lot. Many people like me don't use them at all. Personally, I would prefer to wait for a bus for an hour instead of taking a minibus.