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Actually I find the comments in these kind of videos (see also Not Just Bikes, etc) are often worth reading. They're often witty and/or have something worthwhile to contribute
People who own trucks for truck purposes don’t care about your opinion on “truck guys” Because we agree with you, there’s nobody more flimsy than a pavement princess. They’re the same kind of guys who wear cowboy boots and are afraid to get them dirty
lol reminds me of the time I bought brand new cowboy boots before my farm internship, and not even 30 minutes in, I stepped right into a lovely hidden pile of cow poop (or bullshit HAHA).
My friend in high school in the late 90s said the same thing. He knew a guy who wore fancy cowboy clothes to school and never really did hard work. All the kids that actually lived and worked on the ranches did their best to never look remotely like a cowboy at school, they wanted to fit in with the suburban fashion
Everything about what this is you’re doing here is perfect 😂 I’m from southern Georgia, living in NC. My grandpa was a real farmer with a real truck that really got used. All my uncles have had actual trucks actually used for real routine endeavors. Most everything else is a lil cringe y’all. 🤷♀️ SO many of these same people would talk shit about Latino car culture, which in my mind, has way more value culturally and artistically lol. But apparently American identity is historically an especially complicated thing for its citizens, and unfortunately frequently all kinds of narcissistic and violent. I hope we’re about to learn to work together through the coming craziness and forge some kind of new real and flexible identity. 🙏💪 Thanks for your thoughts!
Saw a video talking about suburban rural identitarians that were far more of likely to consider themselves rural than people from a small city in the middle of nowhere. It was a bit bizarre. I guess there's some sprawl that reaches rural element but once it reaches watching generations cosplay in their upper middle class suburbs with their $70k diesels accessories with the taste unique to a high schooler was really weird.
The lady not wanting the bed scratched is too relatable… in my 20s I was moving from one apartment to another and me and my gf asked her dad if he could help us move some large furniture with his huge ass truck. Dude refused insisting it would scuff the bed liner. The fucking BED LINER! Dude the entire purpose of the liner is to get scuffed instead of the bed like dude wtf
I keep mine prestine for resale in mind at all times...no matter what i buy...also, im not in the favor business of moving other peeps crap...get your own damn truck or rent one
What I never understood was that truck owners buy a vehicle that admittedly is macho and appealing, but gets terrible gas mileage, then the owners complain about the cost of gasoline.
There has to be some crazy overlap between obsessive gun/2nd ammendment nuts and truck dudes. These obsessive gun nuts own guns that are completely unecessary for any form of self-defence (overkill is not part of their vocabulary), but hilariously they complain about the cost of ammunition. Both of these items help reaffirm their fragile masculinity and become part of their personalities. It's the same people.
That's the whole point of being a mindless consumerist. Anything that gets in the way of your vain lifestyle is someone else's fault. Gas too expensive? Biden's fault. Can't afford your payments? It's a plot by those bastards at the bank who've supposedly been kicked out of 109 countries and want to replace you with someone significantly less Caucasian for reasons that are never explained. Instead of trading in their monstrosity (payments of which are probably $1k+/mo unless its being financed beyond 7 years) for something more practical, they'll spend another few thousand dollars blinging it up, by having it lifted, adding bull's balls to the trailer hitch, covering the back window with a LET'S GO BRANDON mural and illegally modifying the engine so it can "roll coal".
Thank you to all the jackasses that made the average price of pickup trucks skyrocket so that guys, like me, that use them for real work have to pay more for one of the tools of my trade. When i'm not working, I drive a honda civic because fuck the rough ride, fuck 7mpg, fuck the amount of space it takes to park the fucking thing, fuck fuckity fuck fuck fuck. Sorry about the mini mental breakdown, I feel better now.
I get it though. We were looking at buying an older midsize, like a Colorado or a Tacoma for my brother in law's business. 5-10 years old and almost 35-40k still. We found a short bed Ram that had like 110k miles on it that finally met his budget, but he was wary about the maintenance.
As someone who drives a full size pick-up truck for work (I'm a contractor) the guys who make driving a truck their personality are insecure about themselves. They want to be perceived as "macho" and "tough" but they hardly ever use their trucks for doing any dirty work. Don't even get me started on lifted trucks that never see the off-road Also most of these 'pick up' guys are just kind of dumb too. They have little to no self awareness and just project on everyone else
Just the other day, I saw a truck so freaking wide and long one the parking lot that even though the front of it was already in the middle of the road, the rear was occupying half the parking space behind it. Moreover, it was EXACTLY as wide as the parking space, so anyone parking on either side wouldnt be able to open the door. These vehicles are completely unfit to run in the city.
So I regularly haul organic vegetables and meat to customers. Also do a lot of car camping because I hate paying for hotels when traveling. Found that the most utilitarian vehicle is an old Honda Minivan with all the seats taken out. More useful space that is protected and air conditioned. Minivans are basically the pickup trucks for Middle Aged Asian people who own nail shops, restaurants and massage parlors .
As an owner of a Hybrid Sienna, I HATE the fact that I can't fold down or remove the middle cabin seats, because it removes a lot of the utility you descibed.
I’m a carpenter. I used to have a pickup with a canopy but have recently switched to a minivan and the minivan is a superior vehicle in basically every sense.
I live in a very blue collar neighborhood, lots of Latinos. The vans are the option of all the Latino guys with work trucks that line the streets in the evenings and Sundays. They just hold more stuff. And you can steal things from the bed of a pickup truck.
@@HalfBackCrack In the pickup I had to lay the sheet goods flat because I had the canopy over the bed. I can (and do) the exact same thing in the minivan.
I have a pickup. Used it for work hauling stuff while simultaneously laughing at the people who never use theirs for anything but transportation. It's also crazy how my decades-old pickup is low enough you can get in without a step ladder yet hauls as much as anything made now. Honestly, truck 'culture' ruined the pickup by turning it into more of a fashion item than a legitimate tool.
Trucks used to be cool till these certain people got their grubby hands on it. I used to love them for their hard work and off-roading capabilities, now I hate them because of these stupid worthless modifications. When people actually use the trucks (even modern trucks) as intended I absolutely respect them, they are using it as intended!
I've got a 97 5.8L F250 that I'm getting a brand new paint job on. Then I'm gonna Christen it with a 10 lb maul. Cause I never want to be the little soy boy afraid to scratch his work truck.
As an Australian, ‘Yank Tanks’ formerly meant large sedans of US original, think Lincoln Continental or the like. But it is so apt for a pickup truck! 😜
@@dagramirez You'd be wrong on that, in fact, Ford just launched the F-150 lightning in Europe, and all other versions are already available there, and they're selling.
A friend of mine, a brilliant scientist who was doing really important work in the world, finally relaxing, was killed along with his girlfriend when their car was hit by a giant pickup truck that was clearly not a working truck. It was a decorative truck. It was the kind of collision that would not normally have been fatal for anyone involved, if not for the additional mass and the height of the bumper. I really loathe suburban commuter pickup trucks now. He was so freaking cool... And just a few years away from retiring, and there's no good reason why he's dead now. None at all
I saw a video about big vehicles 5 crash tests once. Every single crash test is based on a big vehicle like a truck or auv and not a small car like a civic. They had several small children lay down in front of the truck for about 20 feet, and the driver couldn't see any of them (vehicle was off, in park). It's like in medicine women's treatments are based on studies in men.
@@jennifertarin4707 10-11 children sitting down (as they do when they're playing with chalk and toy cars) in a bigmobile, versus about 2 in a modest sedan. Two seems a bit close, so as for personal responsibility (tm)? You can train a kid to stay 5ft away from any one vehicle. You can't train a kid to stay 25ft away from every vehicle.
My father-in-law is in the early stages of dementia. My mother-in-law insisted on getting him a large pickup to “keep him safe”. I was like WTF!?! Get him a car with all kinds of safety features. Not a multi-ton weapon.
And the horrible irony is that auto insurance rates for people in practical cars is likely significantly higher because of the proliferation of these needless monstrosities on the road.
I quote, "There's a certain type of person that just doesn't consider human beings on a bicycle worth consideration." I ride a bicycle in Las Vegas and that statement is certainly accurate. Thanks C.N. Keep up the good work.
The only thing more shortsighted than driving an unnecessary P/U truck... is living in a water starved desert city that's only product is gambling... and thinking you have any moral high ground.
@ I've ridden dirt bikes all over the desert southwest for 40 years. Had a motor boat too when my boys were younger. Actually sold my yacht a few years ago. Too expensive for storage.
I used to own one of those large full-size trucks, and eventually sold it after two years of ownership to purchase a smaller sedan. Saved over $200 a month on payments and my insurance went down. You know what I did when I moved to a new apartment and needed to get all of my furniture there? Rented a U-haul for $18 a day + mileage. I wouldn't go back for a minute.
My Civic has never failed to do a job I needed out of a car thus far. Even if it was incapable of doing a job then I could just rent a truck/van for the amount of time I actually need a larger vehicle.
I just upsized from my small sedan (had it for 10 years but needed a bit more space for kids) to a subaru outback so I actually can move by seat back enough with the kids seats. Its good to have the room but I def miss the parking flexibility and nimbleness of the sedan. I've always found those who drive a pickup truck who weren't using it frequently to haul equipment or other things to be kind of weird.
Yeah. The “you shouldn’t have that because you don’t need it crowd” and the “everyone should get that because they need it crowd” should have to agree on a compromise to let the “self responsible and need to get away from you nuts crowd” get a part of the country where we can be left alone. Sheesh.
I was going to mention the empty trunk, but what is even worse is that most pickuo trucks have cabins with just the same passanger capacity: 2 on the front, 3 on the back.
This was fun! I love your dry humor. I was talking with a truck owner who was complaining that there were all these compact parking spots open, but none of the normal size, so you see, she just *had* to take up all three of them. Oh, and she can see so much further! Which is when i reminded her "yeah, but you cant see directly in front of you." Well, she said that if a person was directly in front of her, they were already dead anyways. Do people not understand? We live in a society and we need to figure out how to live in a way that respects other people.
@@Radi0he4d1 Weird how he deleted every video of his that I actually liked… that widest dualie ever video where he had like a 10’ spacer, monster truck tire, another 10’ spacer, another monster truck tire. Now that one was funny!
As a linesman we use trucks for work but once you see me leave work I’m either in my civic or on public transit. No need for luxury trucks unless you don’t value your money
Yep. I've driven F350s on the clock for my entire career. The second work is over, I'm in my 2dr Toyota hatchback because if I have to drive, it might as well be fun and efficient.
None of us are judging the true work trucks. If you drive a large-bed vehicle that carries oversized or bulk loads, especially if your truck is more mud than paint? I wish you well and hope you picked the one that's least terrible on gas.
Real truck owners drive 80s-2000s trucks until they have 300k+ miles and either rust the frame out or break something not worth fixing. 50k minimum to get into a new 1/2 ton truck is laughable!
dad put 229k on a 04 durango then we sold it to a buddy with nothing more than a shadetree head gasket switch. damn good truck that was, and it didnt take a ladder to get inside it
My dad still uses his '95 F150 with an extended bed for hauling. Still runs just fine, recently used it to move out of my apartment. New trucks with those comedy 4' beds would have been utterly useless for moving a mattress or furniture.
Lol naw thats sometimes true but sometimes the extra torque and horse power is needed for hauling. Also having a reliable truck is important because work cant wait and diesels are super expensive to fix
I live in an area that's surrounded by farm land. You can always tell when someone is using a pick up for its intended purpose by how dirty the truck is. If it's basically spotless, that's a coping skill check.
The Pickup Truck Guy is the guy barreling down the highway at 20mph over the speed limit with headlights brighter than the bald spot on his bear boyfriend's head tailgating you.
My experience in Texas has been that pick up trucks are either slower than death or barreling down the highway like a bat outa hell. There is no in between.
I live in Colorado and constantly hear the excuse, "I need this stupid truck for mountain roads". I drive a Crosstrek, which is basically a slightly elevated station wagon and often drive scary, beat up, dirt mountain roads to go hiking. You know what cars I see when I get there? Usually other crossovers, sedans, and the occasional Jeep. Never 7-yard-long trucks that would require a 5 point turn going up each switchback with such high visibility that driving off a cliff would be inevitable.
so true. i drive a lexus gx470 (a 4runner basically) that's 100% stock and never see lifted pickups on the mountains or deserts as far out as I go. and when i get there, there's always a pruis anyway LOL
I live in Switzerland. Poseurs in the city have US style pickups. People in the mountains have Subaru breaks, or old Steyr-Puch Pinzgauers from the army. In the mountains, you need a car that can actually turn…
I live in Texas. I met a guy from Australia, and he asked me, "Why do so many people have trucks? What are they hauling?" My response was, "mostly ignorance."
If you can haul ignorance then you're definitely overloaded, cause it's none of your business why anyone owns the vehicle that they do, pickup or not. Your big problem is you don't like how people live their lives. Which is a big YOU problem.
@shamancredible8632 How, exactly, did I make it my business what someone owns? Someone asked me a question, and I answered it. The only ignorance here is you believing that I'm not entitled to my opinion and thinking that I have to agree with your purchasing decisions. You are free to drive around the city with an empty bed for the two times a year that someone you know might need it, and I'm free to think it's silly. I would think, as a self-proclaimed shaman, you would understand that concept, but by your own admission, you do not.
My in-law has a pickup truck, but the last three times I asked to borrow it for hauling 1) dirt 2) rocks 3) an appliance, all three times he declined because it would scratch up his truck bed. I kid you not. I had to rent a U-Haul pickup instead. He was not joking. He lives in a suburb and does computer IT work.
Same as a relative of mine… mostly stays in the air on the plane zipping back and forth to business talks. IT work in gas and oil utilities. Take a guess at the demographics. Caricature of stereotype fits.
Well to be fair, dirt and rocks can get VERY heavy, so it depends on how much you're talking about. The truck was likely a light 1/2 ton truck, and can't carry that much weight in the bed.
I am "trusted custodian" of a work F150, loaded with gear in a big plywood organizer under a bed capper. I got nice free loads of cut limestone blocks and flags for my landscaping, carrying 20 or 30 at a time on top of the plywood. Squatted the fckoutta that BCTH! I think the springs are still a little compressed from what they used to be. Makes access easier.
but lightweight trucks get washed away in flood waters, while full sized trucks typically don't. When cars and small trucks get washed away by the force of the water, the occupants can drown. It takes a full sized truck to withstand the flow. Here in Tucson, that's the issue during monsoon. Our roads and streets turn into rivers, and full sized trucks are the closest we have to amphibious vehicles.
Can you do a video about how America’s CAFE (emissions) requirements incentivize auto manufacturers to produce larger, less fuel efficient vehicles? It’s a big reason why pickup trucks and large SUVs are everywhere now. Another reason why pickup trucks have gotten larger and American automakers focus entirely on large vehicles these days, is because US automakers can’t compete with overseas manufacturing of smaller cars (for many complex reasons), and have shifted focus in the past decade to high-margin vehicles for the domestic market, which Ford, GM and Stellantis still largely dominate.
Add to that: Trucks, minivans, and sport utility vehicles (SUV) are not subject to the gas guzzler tax because these vehicle types were not widely available in 1978.
This was a fun watch. You're right about this being an identity thing. Rural Cosplay, as you put it. At the same time, SUVs and crossovers (basically any non-truck vehicle taller than a typical sedan) are for "Wealthy Cosplay". That's cool. I'm just coasting in my '93 Saab 900. Can't beat the cool there. And cool > "manliness". Before anyone tells me that kids are the reason for big cars, my parents raised three boys with two tiny cars in cities that required driving. That "reason" is an excuse.
I have classmates that tell me on a weekly basis that I need a truck instead of my Toyota Camry and proceed to brag about how they need to put $70 of fuel in every week but at the same time complain about gas prices. They never know how to respond to the argument that I have zero use for a truck and I only pay $35 every 3-4 weeks for gas, at the end of the day im a junior at a rural high school so maybe im too young for my opinion to matter but simply put I don't think we should be allowed to vote in this upcoming election.
Oh no! God forbid you own one of the most reliable, affordable, efficient, utilitarian sedans around. You'd better trade that in for a massively inefficient, expensive, and unnecessary vehicle instead. Remember kids, being smart isn't manly!
I’ve told my kids they are not going to be getting their licenses until 18 . The reason insurance costs they can save and invest 250 dollars a month towards college through their teen years or spend most of what they can make on a car . I had a Corolla when I was a teen I wish I had just bought a nice bike and saved my money instead and I did live out in the country .
I live in a rural community, and do a lot of repairs. I have a 1984 Chevy S10. It works for everything I need. And most of the time, the Chevy bolt works.
I like older pickup trucks - with their beds lower to the ground and at least as capacious as more recent models; those are the ones I see doing the most actual work, both in the city and during my motorcycle rides through the countryside. Though there are contractors who use big lifted late-model trucks; these, it seems to me, are more concerned with status and emotion than cold, hard functionality; if they looked at it rationally, they'd see how their choice of vehicle is suboptimal.
I remember when the Chevy Bolt first came out, it struck me as _finally_ an electric car optimally designed to carry passengers and/or stuff around, with enough range that only the most irrationally insecure would feel "range anxiety" over (most folks could plug it in once a week to cover all the miles they drive), built by an actual automaker with a unionized workforce. If I were in the market for a car, it's on my short list of models to consider. And if I were putting together a taxicab fleet, that's the first one I'd consider for modding.
@@dwc1964I used to drive a Honda fit but even in that frame of mind, those Chevys, the Bolt and its hybrid cousin the Volt, felt very cramped. I very much wanted to like them but they just felt bad to be in. Same with the Prius C.
I’m a truck driver (18 wheeler) living in a rural area, yet drive a BMW i3. My co workers snicker and mumble amongst each other when I drive by, so I honk the train horn I installed in it and get to work.
Negativity is what pays the most here on TH-cam That and controversy Everyone is here for that dollar and can't care less about anything else Merica 😅🇺🇸
@@86twin Chicken Tax plays a part, but the real culprit are CAFE standards. CAFE standards have encouraged manufactures to make trucks bigger so they don't have to make them more efficient. You need to keep in mind that if all those single cab small pickups of the 80's and 90's were made today, they would have to have fuel efficiency of at least 45 MPG or manufacturer would be penalized. That's why trucks are getting bigger and bigger and also why the Maverick is actually huge compared to the good old compact pickups(in addition to having hybrid model as "standard"). Really sad as I really want a small pickup with 6 foot bed for off-roading and hunting while still practical for urban environments.
@@warman096 that’s the reason I kick myself for not getting a Ranger that was a couple years old before they quit making them. 2dr with the small extension. That was 14 years ago.
The only "con" (it's a small one) is that the floor is harder to clean and less durable than a pickup's bed. Then again, for 90% of small businesses and private citizens, a minivan works just fine. Unless your job involves regularly hauling dead animals or heavy debris, pickups are rather useless
I know, it's frustrating, Ford sucks. I loved my Ranger. I want another Ranger, but everyone clings to them because they're good. Even the "smallest" 2019 F-150 is a pain in the ass to drive on the road, even if you learned how to drive in a full size. Just give me a Ranger with modern gas milage and I'll buy it, Ford, it's not hard! @@warman096
I used to drive a '97 Toyota Tacoma. 4 cylinder engine, rear wheel drive, 2-seat cab. The most understated and unimpressive truck you'd ever lay eyes on, but it was so useful and reliable. I wouldn't buy one of these modern monstrosities.
There is a reason that those old Tacos, Rangers, and S10’s are worth so much money today. It’s the fact that they’ll just run. They have one job, they carry a maximum of three people, and you can tow or haul anything. If a guy shows up to my job site in a brand new Ram or F150, or Silverado that has 4 doors and a 4’ bed, I laugh so incredibly hard at them, because I know for a fact that it’s not getting used for anything other than commuting. Every serious tradesman I know holds out for a big van, a large SUV, or a tiny little beat up 90’s truck because all the extra stuff is just useless space wasted.
I've had one old S10 ('89 model), and two Tacomas (early 2000s models). They all treated me right, were cheap to drive, and easy to fix on the rare occasion something went wrong. Didn't have to fuss much with maintenance, and all told between those 3 trucks, I drove nearly half a million miles. Would've been more but one of the Tacos sacrificed itself to save me when I hit a freaking full grown steer in the middle of the night in backwoods NC. They were all faithful beasts
One point I'd like to make is that there simply ISN'T a small pickup anymore. If you want something of a reasonable size, you are looking at a 20+ year old truck.
This needs to be mentioned more about how the "market"...that is the control over what is actually available to buy is often pushing people TOWARD getting a pickup truck. "You can get this base model micro sedan that we know won't meet your needs even though you REALLY want a wagon, but over here we've got a 4 door pickup that's basically a wagon! And look how it actually has features and things you expect in a modern vehicle! It's the clear choice!" It drives me up a wall how few wagons there are to choose from. Obviously I keep buying Subaru wagons, but man, I look at euro wagons all the time of different sizes and just drool. There's so so so many more options that we could have in America, but...nope.... small cheap crappy car or gigantic ultra mega deluxe luxury truck... that's nearly all the options. WTF?
@@itsallminor6133 To be fair the new Maverick is basically a UTE. Which could still be very useful but it lacks the solid axle and some of the other things small trucks used to offer that you simply can't get on anything that isn't much larger now.
This guy is spot on. I was born and raised in rural America and we always had trucks because our activities often included hauling things. Whether it be tools out to the field, repairing fences, hay to the livestock, timber, parts, or recreation like trapping, hunting, fishing, camping. Most rural men grow up being Jacks of all trades, self-reliant because of the lack of business and availability of other people to do things for you in rural settings. In the 70s and 80s you didn't see pickup trucks everywhere in urban/suburban settings like there is now. The majority of modern pickup owners have them for their social image. They want to pull out of their subdivided neighborhood and portray a country boy/outdoorsman image. They're fakers, seldom pull any trailer or haul anything, afraid to scratch it and rather keep their truck a spotless pavement princess than use it for what they were invented for.
My next door neighbor has a SIlverado. He uses it primarliy to commute to his job 20 miles away. He lets it warm up for 15 minutes in the morning so he doesn't freeze his tush. After he leaves, I check on his wife.
@@alphonsotate2982At least ripping a Porsche down a canyon road makes you smile. There is no reason a truck would make you smile. Literally none. They aren’t even that good off road compared to a short wheelbase SUV.
The cognitive dissonance of thinking that masculinity = being brave and then choosing to go around in a tank while calling people who don't "soy boys" must be palpable.
Masculinity is simultanously about being a big tough man who can survive on their own but also if I have to be ourside in bad weather for more than the 5 seconds it takes to walk to my car I will scream.
Calling someone a beta soyboy while being a pickup truck driver is so ironic considering most high IQ people find pickup drivers detestable and the worst of the worst when it comes to driving skill. 8/10 pickups on the road are f’ing terrible at driving. Also I can tell they’re dumb since they got tricked by a large corporate car company that somehow made them think needing an overpriced $50k+ pickup truck was the answer to all of their problems.
I used to own a truck, it was wayyyyy more expensive than owning a car. Not just for the gas, but the maintenance as well, everything for a truck just costs more as they tend to be bigger. If you’re trying to save money, the last vehicle you wanna get is a truck.
That is a shame. Trucks USED to be simple vehicles that were cheap to maintain, and, if powered by an inline 6 with a standard trans, not all that thirsty either.
This sucks for the guys who actually use their trucks for work. They want a cheap, easy-to-maintain vehicle to help them put food on the table, but trucks are sold as luxury vehicles now. And they can thank every insecure bumpkin who took out an 84-month auto loan in order to prove to the world that they're a hard-workin' blue collar man - just don't take away their heated steering wheels because their soft widdle handsies get cold.
i just bought an old working gmc yukon from a friend with working AC and a aftermarket center console with android auto. i literally just use this thing to haul shit around or go over areas with bad dirt roads here. i could not imagine myself buying a new truck, and i paid this bad boy 1000$
The guy who said that empty pickup beds are like keeping the 4 seats of your car empty most of the time actually makes another good argument for why cars are terrible
I was thinking that my bike has just the one seat! Although I do sometimes feel a little silly when riding the box bike without the 2 kids, backpacks, and diaper bags. Then I remember that a ton of people are riding around with empty car seats, you just can't see them.
@@CityNerd This made me think of minivans and all of the empty seats and when we're going to get a Minivan Soccer Mom Psychoanalysis video, but I don't think there's enough of them that have their ego wrapped up in their vehicle to care and flood your comment section. I think the female counterpart to "truck bros" would be "Crossover Karen". I've met enough of them in my life. They become a parent to 1 child, think they need to have seating for 7 at the ready, but are too cool to drive a minivan, so they buy a minivan packaged in a less space efficient design.
Do you remember when guys would buy sports cars to show off or massage their ego? What happened? At least those cars were nice to look at and fun to ride in. I've accepted rides from guys just for the sake of the experience. Nice times. You can keep your truck, mister.
a sports car doesnt quite say "i dont care about your safety," or "i WANT to intimidate you, actually" the way a lifted truck does. these people have deep issues.
The only sports cars still being made are the Corvette and the Mazda Miata, both of which are priced beyond many people's reach, especially the Vette, even sporty cars today aren't cheap.
From my European point of view these vehicles make no sense. Here who need a truck like these actually has a van. Fiat Ducato or Iveco Daily here. I'm not surprised that you received bad comments from people that think monster trucks are the best vehicle to buy.
The crazy part is that -- if you go anywhere in Japan -- workers use tiny little 1600-pound kei trucks (like the Daihatsu Hijet and Suzuki Carry) to run farms, haul tools, deliver for small businesses, and such. The typical Daihatsu Hijet in Japan does way more real work than the typical F-150.
If we didn't have bullshit regulation in the states, we would have them too. Trucks get bigger because they have to meet less strict emissions standards.
Infrastructure has accommodated American vehicle size for decades too and I think we have to make room to give roads back to pedestrians, cycling and incentivize people to buy smaller vehicles because it’s unpractical to own these full sized suv and trucks. People will buy those vehicles if it’s practical and they are given the option. I think Toyota is selling a small truck for 10k in Japan soon. It’s just too dangerous for people to make those their work vehicles in most places in America.
my favorite rebuttal to kei trucks is that “those japanese toys are useless when you’re trying to haul a gooseneck cattle trailer”. Like the average truck driver is doing the same 😂
I work in trades, and I had a very jarring moment when I was putting an 8' long spirit level onto my roof rack because it wouldn't fit comfortably in my car. Another tradie nearby said "oh maybe you should get a truck." Like, what, so I can move my stupidly long 8' spirit level one time in 3 years? That mindset seems profoundly alien and silly to me, but I think that is honestly the line of reasoning a lot of truck guys use. "I better drive around in this inefficient and unwieldy vehicle all the time in case I need to make use of this useful feature one time"
I had a co-worker in northern MN who was complaining about how much it cost to fill her big truck. I commented that my sensible midsize sedan costs less than half what her's costs. "Yeah, but what do you do when it snows? You can't go anywhere," she replied. I pointed out that she has seen me drive to work in snowstorms, and that I live much further away, so have to drive much further in snow and still always make it to work. "Yeah, but my driveway has an incline and I really don't want to have to shovel it." I tell her so does mine, steeper than yours, and with a corner half way. Most of the time, it isn't an issue. When I do have to shovel, it takes me maybe an hour, two or three times a year. "Exactly, I don't have time for that." So, she's willing to work at a service station for $8/hr, but wont take take few hours a year to save thousands in fuel and maintenance...
I do HVAC/R service and even my boss doesn't seem to grasp that I leave the van at the shop unless I'm on call because it costs BOTH of us less for me to commute in my '21 Spark than the '21 Express 2500 work van. Given my commute is only 26 miles, it's still about an hour each way because of so many dudebros in lifted pavement princesses.
I never worked in a trade but worked a pool job. I would do cleaning, filter install, and pool construction. I swear if we had a pickup truck and not a van we wouldn't be able to haul half the stuff we kept in the back of that van. It was lower to the ground too so it was real easy to take stuff out of the back. Especially the 60-100 pound giant looploc covers we had to move, wasn't a weight issue just a sheer size thing that required 2 people to carry it.
I drive a pickup - it's an older f-150. It basically serves the same purpose as a cargo van. I would never dream of commuting in it. But pickups are versatile tools and great recreational vehicles for camping. 🤷 The key is, it has a lower hood (so it's not a battering ram death machine) and I use it for very specific purposes - moving furniture or appliances, farm stuff, and camping. For getting around town or commuting, i bike.
That point you make about the hood being lower on your older pickup brings up an issue that seems crazy to me. I have driven a number of pickups over the years for my work, and I was lucky enough that most of this was before the time when the hoods of pickup trucks suddenly became so much higher than what was needed just for putting a roof over the engine compartment. Driving in any kind of off-road situation (not for play, but for getting tools to where they would be used), the closer the distance at which you can see the ground in front of you, the better. On modern trucks, you can't see the ground in front of you any closer than about 40 feet, while in a traditional (older-style) pickup you can see the ground in front of you at a distance that is easily less than half that. Virtually all these modern trucks have four-wheel drive, and yet, along with ground-hugging air deflectors and low-profile tires (such tires are horrible off road), they are designed with such poor driver visibility toward the front that they are pretty much useless when off pavement. Go figure.
Not arguing about this. We have always had an old truck to go out into the country on our gravel grid roads. I usually buy 15 year old trucks. They're usually just rear wheel drive, so the fuel economy is good. What we need are tires that won't go flat from from sharp rocks. I think of the truck as a lower cost golf cart. It is our source of recreation locally.
I'm an urbanist. I drive a pickup truck*. We exist. *An early 2000's Toyota Tacoma 4-banger manual single cab. It gets 20mpg and has enough miles on it to have gone to the moon and back. I love it so much. Small truck urbanist gang rise up!
I was wondering if anyone else felt that way. I have a Hyundai Santa Cruz and use it to haul stuff almost every day and i drive it easy. 25mpg, 2.5l 4 cylinder. I have a friend with a f-150 and he was hating on my ride and I told him I can haul air just as well as him and pay less for gas. Utes and midsize / unibody trucks are the trend right now. You can’t get a Ford Maverick without a year-long wait.
I drive an F-150 so maybe I am not a small truck, but I do feel like one when I am near other pickup truck drivers. Though I will say, I take no pleasure in dissing on other peoples rides except when I feel like doing it in a "friendly comedic way". E.G. "that tiny clown van of yours? naw im just kidding. In all seriousness, that is a cool little Ford transit you got there, man."
I respect small pickup truck owners, as long as it's obviously being used as a truck and not a pavement princess only hauling Costco home. Shoot even if you don't use your "truck" abilities, at least you can see if there is a small child in front of you.. something most pickup truck owners can't say.
Canadian here, living in Calgary Alberta - pickup truck capital of Canada. Lots of folks justify their road fortresses due to the odd bad weather conditions - but then they promptly drive like possessed maniacs during a blizzard and go unintentionally off-road anyway. And the pristine condition of the never-used cargo area never ceases to amaze.
I also live in Calgary and drive for transit. Those pickup drivers are a damn menace and are aggressively irresponsible. They’ll cut a bus off on Stoney with 3 clear lanes just to prove they’re the alpha or some inane bullshit. I also laugh at them when snow hits and I wave as I go by in my Corolla on its decent winter tyres.
I live outside of NYC in the suburbs and we hardly get snow (I used to live in the mountains so I know real snow) and people are so dramatic with their car purchases. "It needs to be good in snow". We get flurries and maybe a few inches of snow / year. Every 4-5 years we get a blizzard that will shut roads down. I would say theres on average 1 bad day / year to be on the road otherwise, it's either not strong enough to cause unsafe road conditions or everything is shut down anyway. You really don't NEED an all weather capable vehicle here in my honest opinion and NY is actually the snowiest state in the US lol
I take responsibility for inspiring dozens of young Calgarians to get trucks. By shuttling them as kids at Moose Mountain for mountain biking 😉. Every summer since 2006. I try to compensate by commuting to work by motorcycle in the city.
Ontario here and same happens. I have nothing against truck owners and like the Toyota ones but for me just can’t justify the cost and empty space to just move things. I know urban owners but also those who truly do use it as a truck. Ironic my dad was a semi truck driver for decades but always drove a nice sedan at home. Why? Said he didn’t want to ride in any truck cab at home and used a trailer for the car to move things to our cottage.
I think there's a psychological connection with European style walkable cities. I feel like the overlap between "truck bros" and "Europeans are gay" types is a circle
The only connection is that the politics of the truck owner are more likely to allow for "walkable cities" in the future than those found in this channel.
We should be more sympathetic. Some people have a hefty price tag tied to how they identified. Just think of all the truck bros that could never be truly happen before the inception of the truck.
In own a pickup, and my current job is work-from-home white collar. My previous job was highly physical blue collar - and I always rode my bike or walked to work.
@@stevesecret2515but that’s because everyone needs a car, especially in America. We all have one or had one at some point. But I would rather take a Mini Cooper than a dualie Ford F-150.
all these huge luxury trucks should be taxed to hell and back. if you don't need a vehicle like this for work you should be paying significantly higher taxes
@@joe42m13with how often I’ve heard drivers complain about cyclists not paying for road upkeep, you’d think this was common sense. Turns out though, drivers just hate anyone who isn’t a driver and don’t actually care about paying their fair share.
Income taxe should be based on vehicle weight. For personal vehicles anyways. If everyone drove a Fiat 500, we wouldn't need to repair bridges and overpasses multiple times per decade. It's insane how I, as a cyclist, subsidize repairs to infrastructure caused by pickup trucks. And I say income tax because most infrastructure budgets come from income tax, not gas tax or tag fees or anything like that.
It might be that I’m 57, but when I was younger, pickup trucks were definitely not a status symbol. They were an inexpensive way for a farmer or contractor to haul stuff. To me, they’re now like rolling Gucci Bags. Still a bag, but 10x expensive just to have the label.
The back is for animals. Mostly dogs, pigs or sheep. That's why the Aussies invented them. If you don't have to take your animals and your family in to town in the same trip, you don't need one.
@@Chris_at_HomeIt's pretty obvious that contractors aren't who he's talking about. I have two diesel pickups for my business, which I own and operate by myself, and I couldn't agree more with the criticisms. Guys who don't need trucks just drive the prices up for people like me.
Back in the 60s, my dad went to visit family in "the old country." His grandfather just put his sheep in the back seat of his sedan when he had to move them.
And it's so easy to go into debt with these useless trucks. I'll bet there's dealerships giving these to people with lower 300 FICO scores. If there's another 2008, it's going to be auto lenders' fault this time
A car dealer was quoted in my local newpaper as saying that Ford F - 150s are just luxury vehicles. They love upselling them because the owners want all the bells, heated seats, top of the line GPS and ceramic coating.
Just recently moved to a property on a few acres in the countryside outside our metro. I've got goats, chickens, and a boatload of large dogs. I drive a hatchback. So many of my friends and family kept nudging me like "You gonna get a truck now?" and I resoundingly say no. I grew up driving landyacht hoopties and I even had an SUV for a moment, but the high cost of gas was enough to change my mind years ago. Now that you pay a premium just to own a gas guzzler I'm fully in the camp of only driving hatchbacks, wagons, and minivans.
Hearing someone is concerned about the truck bed getting scratched is just hilarious to me. You wanted a vehicle capable of carrying stuff in the back. You committed to buying a vehicle that costs tens of thousands of dollars, but you couldn't spend the extra little bit to get a bed liner? I guess you don't care *that* much about it. Unless you're also concerned about scratching up the bed liner..in which case lol, lmao even.
My dad was like this with his new lifted Silverado back in... 2005?? I forget the exact year. But we were loading up cut down branches into the bed and he got mad at me not GENTLY sliding the branches into the bed. I hated the damn truck until he finally lightened up about the paint five years later.
Bed liners have always confused me... I don't put a case on my phone because I expect it to be used for a couple years. Anyone ever heard of wear and tear clauses in warranties?
@@RogueAfterlife Some people use phone cases for decoration. I think it's fine if people don't like their phone scratched up either. Also, we should push for phones and things not to be made with planned obsolescence.
The thing that I really don't get about this argument is that bed liners have been a thing for ages, mine even has its factory plastic bed liner in it and scratching/denting the bed has legitimately never been a concern with that. Why people concerned with this never just get a bed liner I don't know
My theory is when it comes to us guys, Nobody really advances past age 12 or so. We get better at handling stress we get better hold over our emotions. We learn more complicated concepts, but we’re still over grown big kids who like to show off and think farts are funny. Scratch that, we KNOW farts are funny!
I'm an extremely conservative (traditionalist Catholic) American living in a small rural town and I also have been radicalized against the modern pickup truck and car-centric planning on general. Most conservatives don't care about preserving the actual social fabric of the communities they claim to love so much, they just care about cozying up to business interests.
Yeah nothing the "conservatives" of today do seem to actually further that. Heck trump, their king, essentially just bent the knee to elon on immigration instantly.
I drove small pickup trucks when I was very young, but left them behind in my 20s. I wasn’t using them to haul often enough to justify the significant additional wind drag, and lack of a secured trunk. The trucks I see on the road today are enormous, and pristine to the point that I know they are about trying to create an image, or to fit in
As a truck enthusiast, I: -Maintain a class A CDL -Own a 1.2L hatchback -load my hatchback to it's gross vehicle weight rating often, and tow with it occasionally, including both trailers and recovering larger cars. -aspire to buy a small truck, and by small, I mean Japanese market medium-duty cab-over, smaller than a "¾ ton" but with double the cargo volume, comparable payload, and better visibility.
I also drive large commercial vehicles for work but my personal vehicle is a tiny little hatchback 😂 I love the feeling of driving something light, fast and nimble after a day of driving huge trucks. The irony is never lost on me.
Fr every real truck owner's dream is to have a smaller truck. All of us who actually use them (we haul horse show trailers and horse stuff) are just constantly wishing we had a smaller truck that could do the job like other countries get. Not fair we gotta pay so much for a truck that has an asshole warming feature when all we wanna do is pull around our idiot animal sons
Man, I actually watch your videos at 1x speed because I love the sarcasm and dry humour. And the thinking. Still driving a truck, but I do like some good urban development videos. Keep up the great content.
Before pickups became so popular, SUVs used to fill the role of vehicles that were overly expensive, dangerous, rarely used for their intended purpose, and inefficient.
SUVs still are overly expensive, dangerous, misused, and inefficient. We've just normalized it. Take a look at the emerging compact and subcompact SUV market and the diminishing sedan market.
I believe in America it had something to do with meeting emissions standards whereby a longer wheelbase would mean not needing to settle for a much smaller engine. This was before efficient V6 and powerful i4 engines were available on the market. Yet another unintended consequence of well meaning regulation.
Hello from England 🏴! Great comment. Your co-worker was definitely thinking what I think of Giant Truck drivers…mind you we don’t have many of them in the UK. Thankfully.
It's nice to have someone put into words what I was feeling in highschool when I would rev my Subaru's engine behind Frankie's lifted truck just to watch him lose his mind and climb down to scream at me about his father's HVAC business
Growing up in the south, a lot of kids drove full size and heavy duty trucks but they were all pavement princesses. I had a Geo Tracker I resurrected and a Buick LeSabre. My dad had a single cab 1990 Chevy that he still drives today with 1m+ miles. He has rebuilt it and refuses to sell it because it’s just right for him. I used to be there butt of jokes about my tracker, but now I realize I had the most fun car out of all of them.😂 I think this trend is changing though because most truck sales are for midsize or smaller pickups. L
My father was a mechanic who thought that trucks should only be used for work. He thought that modern trucks were the equivalent of show ponies from the days of actual horse power. I never purchased a truck. My father also taught me to respect the right of bike riders and motorcyclists to the road. I embraced my father’s beliefs.
CityNerd just doesn't understand that these vehicles provide a kind of emotional support that just isn't available anywhere else. If you don't believe me, just turn on a country station and listen to all the songs about the mutual love between men and their trucks. Making $1,200 monthly payments may not make sense for an ordinary vehicle, but it does make sense for a rolling safe space.
As a cyclist, vast majority of my scary car moments involved a pickup truck. Seemingly buzzing me or trying to roll coal. Most shapes and sizes, from the clapped out modified trucks to the brand new luxury models. Meanwhile the 4Runner/Tacoma folks are usually polite.
I don't even have to describe the vehicle to coworkers that bike to work. Fortunately I don't get as angry, and I try to encourage others to stay completely cool. I used to publish rear and front facing camera views. I'm not running cams anymore. What I still do is apply a little more pedal to ensure that I'm very close to them at the next light. Gee I wonder why they so frantically check their mirror as they are trapped in a box? Yes I've been buzzed by sedans, and I'm happy to put my right grip over their mirror at the next light.
@@charlesc3734 most cyclists never even try to go in regular traffic lanes unless they don't have any other option. we know full well we're not welcome there, even if traffic laws say we are allowed to use them. most of us are just trying to stay out of the way and get where we're going safely. the least you could do is just let us use the bike lanes in peace.
Australia here - I used to have a neighbour who was a plumber, his work vehicle was your average white HiAce van which was parked in the garage overnight, there was also had a large 4WD fitted with all the fruit including roof rack with a cargo box as the family's non business vehicle and had to park that it in the driveway because that was too tall to fit in to the garage of their house, Then one day the van was gone and a Dodge Ram appeared parked on the verge with the plumbing company's graphics on the truck bed's canopy. It was SOOOOO big (wide) it wouldn't even fit in the driveway (between the retaining wall and letterbox). As this was a corner block this meant the truck was illegally parked (local laws is that you can't park on the road within 10 meters of a road corner). AND then he had to buy a trailer because the RAM had way less storage space for work stuff than the HiAce, so now he was parking that, hitched to the RAM which took up the entire street frontage of his property and even projected out in to the intersection. that lasted for a few months, and I noticed frequent visitations from the local council rangers, and then he was gone, new people moving in - Speaking to the house owner (who's another neighbour) apparently along side the fines there were multiple instances of theft of tools from the back of the truck and the trailer so he broke lease to move out to larger house (so more rent, probably MUCH more rent) just so he could keep his big arse pickup truck instead of do the trade in walk of shame with the dodge and go back to a standard van.
I own a pickup however its a 98 chevy s10 its smaller than most SUVs these days. And my primary use is hauling bikes around to different trail systems. Its old. It's beat up. And I love it. While I dont see an issue with small trucks like mine because t's practical and gets the things done that I need to take care of. What I dont understand is these massive over inflated trucks that truck bros are in love with. I do more with my tiny truck out in rural NC than most other people I see in cities around me whose paint doesn't even have dust on it.
My 2003 Chrysler Town and Country Limited minivan has provided more utility to my Family than a truck ever could. Thanks to two important features, a removable center console and removable 2nd and 3rd row seats, and a 4x8 space in the back with said seats removed, my minivan can haul larger loads and carry more people more comfortably than most pickups on the road. The 4x8 space in the back is perfect for anything from plywood to Sheetrock, and even appliances like dishwashers, dryers, ovens, and the like. In addition, with the center console removed you can fit a healthy amount of 10' sections of pipe and wood, and if the front passenger is willing sit weird, you can even fit a 12' piece of trim or pipe diagonally over your shoulder. My family used this to flip 2 houses, and build the inside of a huge addition to our house. And because seats are removable, you could also put them back in, and now you can carry up to 7 people (we didn't have a second row bench seat), and that is 7 people COMFORTABLY. Unlike an SUV like the Tahoe where 3rd row passengers are sitting 3 inches above a raised floor in, the back seat of the minivan had full legroom, as well as individual rear air vents. And as a Family of 4, we ended up using that comfortable 3rd row all the time bringing people along us on road trips. Not to mention, the minivan is basically a car. It doesn't stick out of parking spaces, you have huge visibility, and it gets pretty good gas mileage too.
I have owned 3 Dodge Caravans and YES, with the STOW AND GO seats, they are great for hauling a lot of stuff, furniture etc. And they are good for hauling around stuff if you have a small business. Everything is LOCKED INSIDE and hard to steal vs a PICKUP where everything is EASY TO STEAL
I respect trucks that are used for WORK. I despise the shiny, lifted (or squatted), snorkled, over-accessorized decorative trucks with the obligatory muffler delete, milk can-sized tailpipe, blinding LED lights and street-worn mud tires. Uh-huh...drugstore.
But here’s the thing: work trucks are usually way smaller than the trucks divorced dads drive. No construction worker or farmer is going to use a dualie Ram 2500 with a huge pit pusher in the front for work. They’re more than likely going to use a dedicated truck or tractor for work. The only big trucks that are used for work purposes are 18 wheelers but that’s because America decided to tear down the majority of its railroad infrastructure in place of massive 30 lane freeways.
Agreed. IMO, minivans are the most versatile, useful vehicle design ever made. They are the veritable Swiss Army Knife of vehicles. Carry 7 passengers? Yup. Carry a 4 X 8 sheet of plywood in the back, flat on the floor, with the hatch closed? Yup. Easily converted to a mini camper for weekend trips to the mountains? Yup. Move all but the largest pieces of furniture? Yup. Yeah, no vehicle is more flexible and useful than the humble minivan.
I'm happy you brought this up. As a US citizen of the state of Georgia for most of my life, I've lived in Atlanta and in rural areas like tiny Trion, GA in the NW where we live now. I've watched the growth of huge pickups in urban and rural settings. Recently, within the past ten years and all the political polarity, I've seen an increase in rudeness from these drivers. My daughter and I are of course the ones in my daughter's Ford Transit van most every trip. We have close calls every time we drive on US 27. The vast majority of these close calls are truck drivers. There are plenty of vans and people in commercial vehicles of all sizes who have tags that mark them from other counties. Yet, it's these big trucks that cut us off or honk at us for going the speed limit. Many of them have something that marks their right-leaning politics. My daughter and I are dots of blue in a red county. Nothing sets our van apart as we don't put even a bumper sticker on it, no window decals, or holiday deco. We don't get a handicapped tag but opt for the tag that hangs on the rear view mirror in parking lots, but that doesn't seem to increase incidents. We have the van in case we want to bring my wheelchair, but practically, it's hard for my daughter to lift it in because of her arthritic knee. Most of our trips to Walmart, she can't find a motorized scooter for me so I end up walking in or sitting in the van while she goes in. Stores don't provide enough of these, and there are too many spoiled parents who see the scooter as a toy for their non-handicapped child, and they break them.
Back in the 1950's, my dad's (mining) company had a chevolet Apache pickup truck for employee use. It was an actual work truck and it was about 1/2 - 3/4 the average size of a typical truck you'd see today.
A relative of mine bought a new pickup (ESV) three years ago. Lives in a suburb of Vancouver. They can’t park the behemoth in normal places. As far as I know, they only used the bed once in 3 years to transport a washer from Costco.
This is so spot on. I notice a huge percentage of these guys having hostile, rightwing decals, as well as parking with no license plates or having the plates obscured.
I recently came within a hair's-breadth of losing my foot as a result of a close encounter with a Big Pickup Truck. I was walking through a parking lot with a curb to the left of me and open space all around when this dude - who made eye contact with me - made a tight right hand turn in front of me, hugging said curb, leaving me no choice but to leap up on it and slap his truck while hollering choice words at him. Proof that even coastal LA isn't immune to Big Pickup Truck Syndrome.
A while ago I was jogging. I stopped at a crosswalk and waited for my light, like a good car-deferent pedestrian. The light changed and I jogged into the intersection as a big truck runs the light and nearly strikes me. I tapped on the side of it as it flew past to say, "Hey, I'm here!" Then continued jogging. At the next intersection, while again waiting for the light, the woman driver comes running up yelling and swearing at me. She runs into the road, forcing cars to stop, comes up to me and starts shoving me, "how do you like it, you *homophobic slur*." I kept my arms crossed so she couldn't accuse me of anything and pointed out the she had run the light and nearly hit me and that her truck really is terrible if a little tap is all it takes to damage it. She then walked back into road, yelling death threats, and giving the finger to cars that honked at her before heading into a restaurant/bar. I can take some consolation in the fact I probably ruined her night, but feel bad about the abuse she likely leveled at the staff...
My bike's closest encounter with a pickup truck was when a pickup owner at work decided that it was too late in the day for me to ride my bike home. My bike did not come home with me in the truck bed; it rode in the cab.
This vid came at a perfect time - had to take a Lyft into the city since there's no public transit for me to visit my dad in the hospital from his apartment. An old man picked me up in this MASSIVE pristine silver truck that I had trouble getting into. He missed a few turns (thankfully the city is a grid, so it was fine) and proceeded to complain about how the city needed to "fix" the roads because they were so small. Mind you, we were on a street with two parking lanes and two travel lanes I could tell were easily 12 ft wide, and even then he had trouble staying in his lane... The transportation planner in me was in awe. But it was also kind of sad. I wonder if this tiny old man got this big truck because it made him feel safer and more secure... at the expense of everyone else.
I have a 4cyl 2004 Tacoma. It gets pretty decent mileage and I use it to go surfing and snowboarding. It’s also come in pretty handy to help friends move and to also pick up second hand furniture. Best of all it has over 200,000 miles on it and has not required any major repairs. It doesn’t burn oil and still runs really well. The smaller pick ups that were available til the early 2000s weren’t inefficient or unsafe.
Regarding these giant suburban status pickups, I wonder if the oppressive blandness of middle-class suburban life itself might be a big part of what drives people to own these monstrosities that are marketed to give them a false sense of rugged individualism that is missing from their office-bound, HOA-regulated daily lives. Maybe it makes up for not being allowed to paint their house the color they want or landscape their yard the way they want.
Oh yeah! Trucks are marketed as a way to be a rugged masculine individualist and break out of your domesticity, but for most truck owners its all performance.
You might have a point, but a bigger point is the fact that you can't buy a nice full-size car with a V8 or Straight 8 engine and chrome trim anymore, unless you want to buy an old wreck and restore it. Not everybody wants to drive a small Japanese car.
Thank you for continuing to troll the toxic masculine. I used to live on a farm. I had a Subaru Forester into which I packed at various times: a month’s worth of animal feed, straw bales, actual live chicks, actual live lambs (seven of ‘em), incubators, broadforks, and on and on. It all fit back there in the Subaru, was covered, easy load and unload. None of it got wet. Bought it in 2013, and it’s still going strong.
@@Catch_The_Irishman There are small farms that are cost effective and profitable without heavy machinery. They provide different products than a typical wheat or corn field.
@@josephk.4200 Yeah, that is my point. A very small farm can probably get by with a Suburu, a large farm with a lot of machinery, acerage or livestock will require a fleet of pickups just to service and maintain the farm. Thank you for the comment and for supporting farms of all sizes.
Aside from the insidious truck plague, there are also the same brand of people driving Mercedes and similar superfluous “luxury” cars in Germany who think you are the scum of the earth if you bike or walk.
I think it's that those kinds of people gravitate towards those vehicles, not that the kind of people who own those vehicles are like that. Personally, I'd prefer the comfort of my A6 and S6 when I have to take trips from Dallas to Austin, San Antonio, or Houston instead of walking. While they aren't the most fuel efficient, I can't complain about 30-36mpg vs. trying to walk that distance. That said, I would never buy them new. 60-100k is insane.
This video makes so much sense. We have a 1/2 ton for pulling our trailers and for farm work. The day after I no longer had heavy equipment to tow, we traded our 1 ton for a compact SUV. Seeing people buying diesel trucks that'll never pull a trailer is absolutely ridiculous. Honestly, even if someone is towing, diesels are impractical unless it's heavy and constant.
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Actually I find the comments in these kind of videos (see also Not Just Bikes, etc) are often worth reading. They're often witty and/or have something worthwhile to contribute
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People who own trucks for truck purposes don’t care about your opinion on “truck guys”
Because we agree with you, there’s nobody more flimsy than a pavement princess. They’re the same kind of guys who wear cowboy boots and are afraid to get them dirty
lol reminds me of the time I bought brand new cowboy boots before my farm internship, and not even 30 minutes in, I stepped right into a lovely hidden pile of cow poop (or bullshit HAHA).
My friend in high school in the late 90s said the same thing. He knew a guy who wore fancy cowboy clothes to school and never really did hard work. All the kids that actually lived and worked on the ranches did their best to never look remotely like a cowboy at school, they wanted to fit in with the suburban fashion
Everything about what this is you’re doing here is perfect 😂 I’m from southern Georgia, living in NC. My grandpa was a real farmer with a real truck that really got used. All my uncles have had actual trucks actually used for real routine endeavors. Most everything else is a lil cringe y’all. 🤷♀️ SO many of these same people would talk shit about Latino car culture, which in my mind, has way more value culturally and artistically lol. But apparently American identity is historically an especially complicated thing for its citizens, and unfortunately frequently all kinds of narcissistic and violent. I hope we’re about to learn to work together through the coming craziness and forge some kind of new real and flexible identity. 🙏💪 Thanks for your thoughts!
Saw a video talking about suburban rural identitarians that were far more of likely to consider themselves rural than people from a small city in the middle of nowhere. It was a bit bizarre. I guess there's some sprawl that reaches rural element but once it reaches watching generations cosplay in their upper middle class suburbs with their $70k diesels accessories with the taste unique to a high schooler was really weird.
I saw this EXACT THING just yesterday 😂
The lady not wanting the bed scratched is too relatable… in my 20s I was moving from one apartment to another and me and my gf asked her dad if he could help us move some large furniture with his huge ass truck. Dude refused insisting it would scuff the bed liner. The fucking BED LINER! Dude the entire purpose of the liner is to get scuffed instead of the bed like dude wtf
Maybe he was waiting for his bed liner liner to come in. 😂
he just did not like you 😆
I keep mine prestine for resale in mind at all times...no matter what i buy...also, im not in the favor business of moving other peeps crap...get your own damn truck or rent one
It's ridiculous bro 😂😂😂😂 I drive an F150 and every part of my truck is almost impecable except for my bed liner and the inside of my bed cap. Lol!
@l.d.8310 Why even own a truck then? Just buy a car and save a load of $.
What I never understood was that truck owners buy a vehicle that admittedly is macho and appealing, but gets terrible gas mileage, then the owners complain about the cost of gasoline.
There has to be some crazy overlap between obsessive gun/2nd ammendment nuts and truck dudes. These obsessive gun nuts own guns that are completely unecessary for any form of self-defence (overkill is not part of their vocabulary), but hilariously they complain about the cost of ammunition. Both of these items help reaffirm their fragile masculinity and become part of their personalities.
It's the same people.
Cause and effect comprehension requires adult level thinking.
and then they also do things like accelerate toward red lights and slam on the gas when they leave the stop sign
That's the whole point of being a mindless consumerist. Anything that gets in the way of your vain lifestyle is someone else's fault. Gas too expensive? Biden's fault. Can't afford your payments? It's a plot by those bastards at the bank who've supposedly been kicked out of 109 countries and want to replace you with someone significantly less Caucasian for reasons that are never explained.
Instead of trading in their monstrosity (payments of which are probably $1k+/mo unless its being financed beyond 7 years) for something more practical, they'll spend another few thousand dollars blinging it up, by having it lifted, adding bull's balls to the trailer hitch, covering the back window with a LET'S GO BRANDON mural and illegally modifying the engine so it can "roll coal".
Or can't park it anywhere
Thank you to all the jackasses that made the average price of pickup trucks skyrocket so that guys, like me, that use them for real work have to pay more for one of the tools of my trade. When i'm not working, I drive a honda civic because fuck the rough ride, fuck 7mpg, fuck the amount of space it takes to park the fucking thing, fuck fuckity fuck fuck fuck. Sorry about the mini mental breakdown, I feel better now.
I get it though. We were looking at buying an older midsize, like a Colorado or a Tacoma for my brother in law's business. 5-10 years old and almost 35-40k still. We found a short bed Ram that had like 110k miles on it that finally met his budget, but he was wary about the maintenance.
Lol
Life sucks to bad.
It's the merchant and the system, not the consumer that's to blame. What about market economics do you not understand?
No worries, at all!! 👍🏾☺️
As someone who drives a full size pick-up truck for work (I'm a contractor) the guys who make driving a truck their personality are insecure about themselves. They want to be perceived as "macho" and "tough" but they hardly ever use their trucks for doing any dirty work. Don't even get me started on lifted trucks that never see the off-road
Also most of these 'pick up' guys are just kind of dumb too. They have little to no self awareness and just project on everyone else
And a lot of pick-up truck owners that talk about going off road in actuality are only going on gravel roads that my sedan can go on.
@@Old_Ladies For my reference, are these gravel roads traversable by bike?
@@celiashen5490 Probably with 25c tires.
@Old_Ladies I'm quite positive that if they ever saw a single dirt road in Vermont during mud season, they would shit their pants times 5
@@nmpls Thanks!
My favorite description of the clean, shiny, never-hauled-anything, luxury pickup is "Parking Lot Princess."
"Pavement princess", "Monstrosities", "Death Machines", and "Emotional support truck" are my terms for these things
I've been calling them air haulers for decades.
Just the other day, I saw a truck so freaking wide and long one the parking lot that even though the front of it was already in the middle of the road, the rear was occupying half the parking space behind it. Moreover, it was EXACTLY as wide as the parking space, so anyone parking on either side wouldnt be able to open the door.
These vehicles are completely unfit to run in the city.
Yeah, it's such a good description
That is a good one, but I'd never use it IRL. The way things are these days one would definitely get ventilated for such a burn.
So I regularly haul organic vegetables and meat to customers. Also do a lot of car camping because I hate paying for hotels when traveling. Found that the most utilitarian vehicle is an old Honda Minivan with all the seats taken out. More useful space that is protected and air conditioned. Minivans are basically the pickup trucks for Middle Aged Asian people who own nail shops, restaurants and massage parlors .
Very true. The Chevy Astro/GMC Safari is another minivan that sees a lot of use by small businesses, especially contractors looking to haul materials.
Minivans are a decent idea
can also use a full size van for this. i bought a real old one to do a cross country move and its been so useful afterwards i never sold it.
As an owner of a Hybrid Sienna, I HATE the fact that I can't fold down or remove the middle cabin seats, because it removes a lot of the utility you descibed.
@@zippy1981dotnetI can take the Sienna off my want list. Why the Hell would they go backwards on that feature, after decades if success with it?!
I’m a carpenter. I used to have a pickup with a canopy but have recently switched to a minivan and the minivan is a superior vehicle in basically every sense.
Minivans man...they were the do it all vehicle of all 90's moms. The Dodge Caravan, the Astro...just reliable, durable...perfect.
I live in a very blue collar neighborhood, lots of Latinos. The vans are the option of all the Latino guys with work trucks that line the streets in the evenings and Sundays. They just hold more stuff. And you can steal things from the bed of a pickup truck.
Until you have to haul 4x8 sheets.of plywood or drywall. 😂
@@HalfBackCrack In the pickup I had to lay the sheet goods flat because I had the canopy over the bed. I can (and do) the exact same thing in the minivan.
that's why in yurop every craftsman with half a brain upwards uses Mercedes Sprinter and similar. Far superior over a stupid truck
I have a pickup. Used it for work hauling stuff while simultaneously laughing at the people who never use theirs for anything but transportation.
It's also crazy how my decades-old pickup is low enough you can get in without a step ladder yet hauls as much as anything made now.
Honestly, truck 'culture' ruined the pickup by turning it into more of a fashion item than a legitimate tool.
A truck can be a fashion item or tool just like a car...
Actually your decades old truck hauls more than the 4 door short bed things they sell now.
Trucks used to be cool till these certain people got their grubby hands on it. I used to love them for their hard work and off-roading capabilities, now I hate them because of these stupid worthless modifications.
When people actually use the trucks (even modern trucks) as intended I absolutely respect them, they are using it as intended!
This. The 90s small trucks hold more volume than the big trucks of today woth their tiny beds.
I've got a 97 5.8L F250 that I'm getting a brand new paint job on. Then I'm gonna Christen it with a 10 lb maul. Cause I never want to be the little soy boy afraid to scratch his work truck.
"Yank tanks" is definitely the most insightful distillation of US culture from a foreigner that this American has heard in awhile.
As an Australian, ‘Yank Tanks’ formerly meant large sedans of US original, think Lincoln Continental or the like. But it is so apt for a pickup truck! 😜
When you see truck or a big SUB in Europe, is usually an American staycationed nearby.
They are overwhelming Puerto Rico and other islands.
@@jeretso A definite downside, in my book.
@@dagramirez You'd be wrong on that, in fact, Ford just launched the F-150 lightning in Europe, and all other versions are already available there, and they're selling.
A friend of mine, a brilliant scientist who was doing really important work in the world, finally relaxing, was killed along with his girlfriend when their car was hit by a giant pickup truck that was clearly not a working truck. It was a decorative truck. It was the kind of collision that would not normally have been fatal for anyone involved, if not for the additional mass and the height of the bumper. I really loathe suburban commuter pickup trucks now. He was so freaking cool... And just a few years away from retiring, and there's no good reason why he's dead now. None at all
I saw a video about big vehicles 5 crash tests once. Every single crash test is based on a big vehicle like a truck or auv and not a small car like a civic. They had several small children lay down in front of the truck for about 20 feet, and the driver couldn't see any of them (vehicle was off, in park). It's like in medicine women's treatments are based on studies in men.
@@jennifertarin4707 10-11 children sitting down (as they do when they're playing with chalk and toy cars) in a bigmobile, versus about 2 in a modest sedan. Two seems a bit close, so as for personal responsibility (tm)? You can train a kid to stay 5ft away from any one vehicle. You can't train a kid to stay 25ft away from every vehicle.
My father-in-law is in the early stages of dementia. My mother-in-law insisted on getting him a large pickup to “keep him safe”. I was like WTF!?! Get him a car with all kinds of safety features. Not a multi-ton weapon.
And the horrible irony is that auto insurance rates for people in practical cars is likely significantly higher because of the proliferation of these needless monstrosities on the road.
I’m so sorry
I quote, "There's a certain type of person that just doesn't consider human beings on a bicycle worth consideration." I ride a bicycle in Las Vegas and that statement is certainly accurate. Thanks C.N. Keep up the good work.
I need to get back to Vegas sometime.
The only thing more shortsighted than driving an unnecessary P/U truck... is living in a water starved desert city that's only product is gambling... and thinking you have any moral high ground.
@Vicrattleskull2028 Where you live makes you a moral person? I'd like to thank you for sharing, friend.
Sailboat….Bicycle….what other boxes are you checking?
@ I've ridden dirt bikes all over the desert southwest for 40 years. Had a motor boat too when my boys were younger. Actually sold my yacht a few years ago. Too expensive for storage.
I used to own one of those large full-size trucks, and eventually sold it after two years of ownership to purchase a smaller sedan. Saved over $200 a month on payments and my insurance went down. You know what I did when I moved to a new apartment and needed to get all of my furniture there?
Rented a U-haul for $18 a day + mileage.
I wouldn't go back for a minute.
What a strange concept. Renting a vehicle fit for purpose for the one time you actually need it.
My Civic has never failed to do a job I needed out of a car thus far. Even if it was incapable of doing a job then I could just rent a truck/van for the amount of time I actually need a larger vehicle.
I just upsized from my small sedan (had it for 10 years but needed a bit more space for kids) to a subaru outback so I actually can move by seat back enough with the kids seats. Its good to have the room but I def miss the parking flexibility and nimbleness of the sedan. I've always found those who drive a pickup truck who weren't using it frequently to haul equipment or other things to be kind of weird.
U-haul is the real MVP
EXACTLY! It's not like renting a U-Haul is even expensive!
Living in Texas I see a lot of pickup trucks about 90% of which have nothing in the bed and no passengers.
I heard an auto executive say, “most of our trucks will never haul anything more than a raindrop.”
Drill baby Drill(!)
Same can ne said about SUV
Same can be said about minivans.
Only 90%. In Seattle it's more like 97%
The “4-5 empty seats in your car” guy is soooo close to getting it.
LITERALLY lmao. thats why i don't drive a car 99% of the time 😭
Something to think about
Yeah. The “you shouldn’t have that because you don’t need it crowd” and the “everyone should get that because they need it crowd” should have to agree on a compromise to let the “self responsible and need to get away from you nuts crowd” get a part of the country where we can be left alone. Sheesh.
I was going to mention the empty trunk, but what is even worse is that most pickuo trucks have cabins with just the same passanger capacity: 2 on the front, 3 on the back.
What if instead of 4-5 empty seats, you had 4-5 empty seats AND an empty truck bed?? Checkmate liberals
This was fun! I love your dry humor.
I was talking with a truck owner who was complaining that there were all these compact parking spots open, but none of the normal size, so you see, she just *had* to take up all three of them.
Oh, and she can see so much further! Which is when i reminded her "yeah, but you cant see directly in front of you." Well, she said that if a person was directly in front of her, they were already dead anyways.
Do people not understand? We live in a society and we need to figure out how to live in a way that respects other people.
CityNerd has found the infinite engagement glitch.
Nothings stronger than a truck driver’s desire to defend their manhood. Infinite comment dislike glitch
@@chromie6571engagement is engagement.
Whistlindiesel also used it to hell and back, huge lifts and fragile egos go hand in hand
@@Radi0he4d1 Weird how he deleted every video of his that I actually liked… that widest dualie ever video where he had like a 10’ spacer, monster truck tire, another 10’ spacer, another monster truck tire. Now that one was funny!
Thought this said infinite argument glitch, which might be true...
As a linesman we use trucks for work but once you see me leave work I’m either in my civic or on public transit. No need for luxury trucks unless you don’t value your money
My mother said she knew someone who cashed out their 401K to buy a $70K pickup truck. That was a waste of money.
Yep. I've driven F350s on the clock for my entire career. The second work is over, I'm in my 2dr Toyota hatchback because if I have to drive, it might as well be fun and efficient.
Extremely based, and probably very comfortable financially as well
None of us are judging the true work trucks. If you drive a large-bed vehicle that carries oversized or bulk loads, especially if your truck is more mud than paint? I wish you well and hope you picked the one that's least terrible on gas.
CityNerd, I adore a deliberate speaker! Big trucks/Hummers, not a favorite of other drivers. Every time I see tiny tires, I 😂.
Real truck owners drive 80s-2000s trucks until they have 300k+ miles and either rust the frame out or break something not worth fixing. 50k minimum to get into a new 1/2 ton truck is laughable!
Truth
dad put 229k on a 04 durango then we sold it to a buddy with nothing more than a shadetree head gasket switch. damn good truck that was, and it didnt take a ladder to get inside it
And it has a cloth bench seat, crank windows, and 2-40 air conditioning (ie 2 windows down @ 40mph).
My dad still uses his '95 F150 with an extended bed for hauling. Still runs just fine, recently used it to move out of my apartment. New trucks with those comedy 4' beds would have been utterly useless for moving a mattress or furniture.
Lol naw thats sometimes true but sometimes the extra torque and horse power is needed for hauling. Also having a reliable truck is important because work cant wait and diesels are super expensive to fix
I live in an area that's surrounded by farm land. You can always tell when someone is using a pick up for its intended purpose by how dirty the truck is. If it's basically spotless, that's a coping skill check.
The Pickup Truck Guy is the guy barreling down the highway at 20mph over the speed limit with headlights brighter than the bald spot on his bear boyfriend's head tailgating you.
They really are those guys.
@@craig8638But...but...my truck... I'm so straight though. They say this while buying a vehicle to attract OTHER DUDES.
Lots of pickup drivers unfortunately, but don't get me started on luxury suv drivers now.
I know those guys. Zero situational planning. My mother used the term "coming through high, wide and handsome."
My experience in Texas has been that pick up trucks are either slower than death or barreling down the highway like a bat outa hell. There is no in between.
I live in Colorado and constantly hear the excuse, "I need this stupid truck for mountain roads". I drive a Crosstrek, which is basically a slightly elevated station wagon and often drive scary, beat up, dirt mountain roads to go hiking. You know what cars I see when I get there? Usually other crossovers, sedans, and the occasional Jeep. Never 7-yard-long trucks that would require a 5 point turn going up each switchback with such high visibility that driving off a cliff would be inevitable.
i take my civic up those roads, lol
Crosstrek is fine for very light off roading. It will never make it where I live.
so true. i drive a lexus gx470 (a 4runner basically) that's 100% stock and never see lifted pickups on the mountains or deserts as far out as I go. and when i get there, there's always a pruis anyway LOL
I live in Switzerland. Poseurs in the city have US style pickups. People in the mountains have Subaru breaks, or old Steyr-Puch Pinzgauers from the army. In the mountains, you need a car that can actually turn…
@@MatthiasWiesmann Swiss pick up trucks don't have steering? That explains things
"Emotional support vehicle" I'm sorry but I'm stealing this one.
i did. best line
You're borrowing for the good of your civilization, that's not stealing.
Are we also stealing 'yank tank' then?
Applies to bicycles too.
That's probably an apt description of my motorbike 😅
I live in Texas. I met a guy from Australia, and he asked me, "Why do so many people have trucks? What are they hauling?"
My response was, "mostly ignorance."
If you can haul ignorance then you're definitely overloaded, cause it's none of your business why anyone owns the vehicle that they do, pickup or not. Your big problem is you don't like how people live their lives. Which is a big YOU problem.
@shamancredible8632 How, exactly, did I make it my business what someone owns? Someone asked me a question, and I answered it.
The only ignorance here is you believing that I'm not entitled to my opinion and thinking that I have to agree with your purchasing decisions. You are free to drive around the city with an empty bed for the two times a year that someone you know might need it, and I'm free to think it's silly.
I would think, as a self-proclaimed shaman, you would understand that concept, but by your own admission, you do not.
@@shamancredible8632 kinda struck a vein, there, huh?
Can’t wait for Saturday!!!
And grievance. Don't forget the grivance
My in-law has a pickup truck, but the last three times I asked to borrow it for hauling 1) dirt 2) rocks 3) an appliance, all three times he declined because it would scratch up his truck bed. I kid you not. I had to rent a U-Haul pickup instead. He was not joking. He lives in a suburb and does computer IT work.
Same as a relative of mine… mostly stays in the air on the plane zipping back and forth to business talks. IT work in gas and oil utilities. Take a guess at the demographics. Caricature of stereotype fits.
Well to be fair, dirt and rocks can get VERY heavy, so it depends on how much you're talking about. The truck was likely a light 1/2 ton truck, and can't carry that much weight in the bed.
Maybe he thought you would be disrespectful of his investment and abuse it, affecting his wallet. And it looks like he was probably right.
I am "trusted custodian" of a work F150, loaded with gear in a big plywood organizer under a bed capper. I got nice free loads of cut limestone blocks and flags for my landscaping, carrying 20 or 30 at a time on top of the plywood. Squatted the fckoutta that BCTH! I think the springs are still a little compressed from what they used to be. Makes access easier.
😂 its not your truck dude
My 93 basic Toyota truck literally disappears in a parking lot surrounded by monster trucks. But it hauls more in one month than most ever do.
I'm starting to think my Mazda 3 has hauled more than some of these monster trucks ever have.
There are so many trucks on the road that actually do get used. But you’re conveniently forgetting them
I have seen more A segment cars hauling trailers than F150/R1500 trucks with full truck beds.
I'm curious what other people's experiences are.
but lightweight trucks get washed away in flood waters, while full sized trucks typically don't. When cars and small trucks get washed away by the force of the water, the occupants can drown. It takes a full sized truck to withstand the flow. Here in Tucson, that's the issue during monsoon. Our roads and streets turn into rivers, and full sized trucks are the closest we have to amphibious vehicles.
It's not that it can haul more. It's that you will use it to haul more
Can you do a video about how America’s CAFE (emissions) requirements incentivize auto manufacturers to produce larger, less fuel efficient vehicles? It’s a big reason why pickup trucks and large SUVs are everywhere now.
Another reason why pickup trucks have gotten larger and American automakers focus entirely on large vehicles these days, is because US automakers can’t compete with overseas manufacturing of smaller cars (for many complex reasons), and have shifted focus in the past decade to high-margin vehicles for the domestic market, which Ford, GM and Stellantis still largely dominate.
It’s sort of off topic, and has been covered before.
YES !! THIS !! Damn CAFE requirements. These huge vehicles shouldn't be on our roads like this.
Add to that: Trucks, minivans, and sport utility vehicles (SUV) are not subject to the gas guzzler tax because these vehicle types were not widely available in 1978.
The one and only issue is the fact that trucks were given their exception. Easy fix too.
@gingermany6223 - yes. But they should be. Which is why OP mentions the CAFE laws.
This was a fun watch. You're right about this being an identity thing. Rural Cosplay, as you put it. At the same time, SUVs and crossovers (basically any non-truck vehicle taller than a typical sedan) are for "Wealthy Cosplay".
That's cool. I'm just coasting in my '93 Saab 900. Can't beat the cool there. And cool > "manliness".
Before anyone tells me that kids are the reason for big cars, my parents raised three boys with two tiny cars in cities that required driving. That "reason" is an excuse.
This comment section will be civil
Lol, I'm more interested in these comments than the video!
Of course
Wrong! How dare you!
(am I doing this right?)
They're predictable "soy" "libural" "Prius driver" "city slicker". Identity politics hard at work!!
Just like how ill be civil with his wife👉👉(love you citynerd)
I have classmates that tell me on a weekly basis that I need a truck instead of my Toyota Camry and proceed to brag about how they need to put $70 of fuel in every week but at the same time complain about gas prices. They never know how to respond to the argument that I have zero use for a truck and I only pay $35 every 3-4 weeks for gas, at the end of the day im a junior at a rural high school so maybe im too young for my opinion to matter but simply put I don't think we should be allowed to vote in this upcoming election.
A camry seems like a really nice car.
Juniors in high-school spend $280 on fuel every month? What a waste, especially considering that age group isn't exactly loaded with cash.
Oh don't worry, stupidity doesn't discriminate by age.
Oh no! God forbid you own one of the most reliable, affordable, efficient, utilitarian sedans around. You'd better trade that in for a massively inefficient, expensive, and unnecessary vehicle instead. Remember kids, being smart isn't manly!
I’ve told my kids they are not going to be getting their licenses until 18 . The reason insurance costs they can save and invest 250 dollars a month towards college through their teen years or spend most of what they can make on a car . I had a Corolla when I was a teen I wish I had just bought a nice bike and saved my money instead and I did live out in the country .
I live in a rural community, and do a lot of repairs. I have a 1984 Chevy S10. It works for everything I need. And most of the time, the Chevy bolt works.
I miss the old S10 and Ranger. Decent gas mileage, a bed for when you need it, and you don't need a built in step ladder to get in it.
A time when pickups were actually worth something. Now they're big useless hunks of metal that can barely fit a 2x4.
I like older pickup trucks - with their beds lower to the ground and at least as capacious as more recent models; those are the ones I see doing the most actual work, both in the city and during my motorcycle rides through the countryside. Though there are contractors who use big lifted late-model trucks; these, it seems to me, are more concerned with status and emotion than cold, hard functionality; if they looked at it rationally, they'd see how their choice of vehicle is suboptimal.
I remember when the Chevy Bolt first came out, it struck me as _finally_ an electric car optimally designed to carry passengers and/or stuff around, with enough range that only the most irrationally insecure would feel "range anxiety" over (most folks could plug it in once a week to cover all the miles they drive), built by an actual automaker with a unionized workforce.
If I were in the market for a car, it's on my short list of models to consider. And if I were putting together a taxicab fleet, that's the first one I'd consider for modding.
@@dwc1964I used to drive a Honda fit but even in that frame of mind, those Chevys, the Bolt and its hybrid cousin the Volt, felt very cramped. I very much wanted to like them but they just felt bad to be in. Same with the Prius C.
I’m a truck driver (18 wheeler) living in a rural area, yet drive a BMW i3. My co workers snicker and mumble amongst each other when I drive by, so I honk the train horn I installed in it and get to work.
Well here ya go: you said “Rolex, Lamborghini “ and I got a Gucci ad, I think that’s a score
I got a paper towel ad right after that moment in the video. Rethinking my life choices.
My ad was just for TH-cam Premium. They're really pushing...
@@davidsprenkle2641I'm getting toilet paper ads. I'm not sure how they know that I am watching while sitting on the toilet.
Got 'em.
I got arm & Hammer AD
City nerd has discovered rage bait as a highly effective way of engagement boosting
"Rage bait" is a synonym for "Fox News."
Negativity is what pays the most here on TH-cam
That and controversy
Everyone is here for that dollar and can't care less about anything else
Merica 😅🇺🇸
@matthewpatterson8519
"Emotional support vehicle" owner spotted.
Except it's not rage bait. These trucks sucks and its been scientifically proven their drivers are more likely to be psychopaths
@@kenbob1071Holy moly that’s good
The biggest crime is that Americans don't have easy access to the much more practical Kei trucks available in Asian markets.
Chicken tax laws are to blame for that
@@86twin Chicken Tax plays a part, but the real culprit are CAFE standards. CAFE standards have encouraged manufactures to make trucks bigger so they don't have to make them more efficient. You need to keep in mind that if all those single cab small pickups of the 80's and 90's were made today, they would have to have fuel efficiency of at least 45 MPG or manufacturer would be penalized. That's why trucks are getting bigger and bigger and also why the Maverick is actually huge compared to the good old compact pickups(in addition to having hybrid model as "standard").
Really sad as I really want a small pickup with 6 foot bed for off-roading and hunting while still practical for urban environments.
@@warman096 that’s the reason I kick myself for not getting a Ranger that was a couple years old before they quit making them. 2dr with the small extension. That was 14 years ago.
The only "con" (it's a small one) is that the floor is harder to clean and less durable than a pickup's bed. Then again, for 90% of small businesses and private citizens, a minivan works just fine. Unless your job involves regularly hauling dead animals or heavy debris, pickups are rather useless
I know, it's frustrating, Ford sucks. I loved my Ranger. I want another Ranger, but everyone clings to them because they're good. Even the "smallest" 2019 F-150 is a pain in the ass to drive on the road, even if you learned how to drive in a full size.
Just give me a Ranger with modern gas milage and I'll buy it, Ford, it's not hard! @@warman096
I used to drive a '97 Toyota Tacoma. 4 cylinder engine, rear wheel drive, 2-seat cab. The most understated and unimpressive truck you'd ever lay eyes on, but it was so useful and reliable. I wouldn't buy one of these modern monstrosities.
There is a reason that those old Tacos, Rangers, and S10’s are worth so much money today. It’s the fact that they’ll just run. They have one job, they carry a maximum of three people, and you can tow or haul anything.
If a guy shows up to my job site in a brand new Ram or F150, or Silverado that has 4 doors and a 4’ bed, I laugh so incredibly hard at them, because I know for a fact that it’s not getting used for anything other than commuting.
Every serious tradesman I know holds out for a big van, a large SUV, or a tiny little beat up 90’s truck because all the extra stuff is just useless space wasted.
I've had one old S10 ('89 model), and two Tacomas (early 2000s models). They all treated me right, were cheap to drive, and easy to fix on the rare occasion something went wrong. Didn't have to fuss much with maintenance, and all told between those 3 trucks, I drove nearly half a million miles. Would've been more but one of the Tacos sacrificed itself to save me when I hit a freaking full grown steer in the middle of the night in backwoods NC. They were all faithful beasts
One point I'd like to make is that there simply ISN'T a small pickup anymore. If you want something of a reasonable size, you are looking at a 20+ year old truck.
I miss the small pickups.
Ford Maverick
This needs to be mentioned more about how the "market"...that is the control over what is actually available to buy is often pushing people TOWARD getting a pickup truck. "You can get this base model micro sedan that we know won't meet your needs even though you REALLY want a wagon, but over here we've got a 4 door pickup that's basically a wagon! And look how it actually has features and things you expect in a modern vehicle! It's the clear choice!"
It drives me up a wall how few wagons there are to choose from. Obviously I keep buying Subaru wagons, but man, I look at euro wagons all the time of different sizes and just drool. There's so so so many more options that we could have in America, but...nope.... small cheap crappy car or gigantic ultra mega deluxe luxury truck... that's nearly all the options. WTF?
@@itsallminor6133 To be fair the new Maverick is basically a UTE. Which could still be very useful but it lacks the solid axle and some of the other things small trucks used to offer that you simply can't get on anything that isn't much larger now.
You can thank your government for that one. Emissions laws are very weird in the US.
The comeback nobody was asking for, but we all needed.
So...wait. Where, exactly, am I supposed to hang my truck nuts? Check and mate.
Maybe below your belt, as you obviously don't have a pair.
@@jakeeddy9256 - Is it that you didn't detect the sarcasm or...
On the front of an MX-5, to give it a nice moustache.
On the back of a bicycle. I've seen that one before.
@@IvanIvanoIvanovich - Hmmm
This guy is spot on. I was born and raised in rural America and we always had trucks because our activities often included hauling things. Whether it be tools out to the field, repairing fences, hay to the livestock, timber, parts, or recreation like trapping, hunting, fishing, camping. Most rural men grow up being Jacks of all trades, self-reliant because of the lack of business and availability of other people to do things for you in rural settings. In the 70s and 80s you didn't see pickup trucks everywhere in urban/suburban settings like there is now. The majority of modern pickup owners have them for their social image. They want to pull out of their subdivided neighborhood and portray a country boy/outdoorsman image. They're fakers, seldom pull any trailer or haul anything, afraid to scratch it and rather keep their truck a spotless pavement princess than use it for what they were invented for.
My next door neighbor has a SIlverado. He uses it primarliy to commute to his job 20 miles away. He lets it warm up for 15 minutes in the morning so he doesn't freeze his tush. After he leaves, I check on his wife.
I assume the check up is for signs of carbon monoxide poisoning. Very considerate of you.
I needed that laugh. Thanks, guys.
John Redcorn
People who think "$85,000 toy = no cheating" have been cucked by the auto industry 😂
@@jfolz Just a neighborly offer of mouth to mouth "resuscitation"? 💋 👀
The "Emotional Support Vehicle" description is very adequate for all the guys who wrap up their masculinity in their vehicle choice.
It go for people that buy sport cars
@@alphonsotate2982At least ripping a Porsche down a canyon road makes you smile. There is no reason a truck would make you smile. Literally none. They aren’t even that good off road compared to a short wheelbase SUV.
@@ghettomist1575I was happy when I saw an original virtual fighter arcade machine on the sidewalk for trash and it fit so easily in my pickup
@@russell-gt1dy Awww that’s a cute story. I’m happy for you homie!
The only time they get female attention is with their trucks. They're just doing what they have to I guess.
The cognitive dissonance of thinking that masculinity = being brave and then choosing to go around in a tank while calling people who don't "soy boys" must be palpable.
They aren’t brave, though. Just the opposite.
That requires actual self reflection.
@@happycommuter3523Thats what im implying
Masculinity is simultanously about being a big tough man who can survive on their own but also if I have to be ourside in bad weather for more than the 5 seconds it takes to walk to my car I will scream.
I'm strong and tough but need this big truck to protect me and stickers to scare you
Calling someone a beta soyboy while being a pickup truck driver is so ironic considering most high IQ people find pickup drivers detestable and the worst of the worst when it comes to driving skill.
8/10 pickups on the road are f’ing terrible at driving.
Also I can tell they’re dumb since they got tricked by a large corporate car company that somehow made them think needing an overpriced $50k+ pickup truck was the answer to all of their problems.
I used to own a truck, it was wayyyyy more expensive than owning a car. Not just for the gas, but the maintenance as well, everything for a truck just costs more as they tend to be bigger. If you’re trying to save money, the last vehicle you wanna get is a truck.
Not everybody is trying to save money. Some of us like to indulge.
The more car you buy, the more it will cost to own.
That is a shame. Trucks USED to be simple vehicles that were cheap to maintain, and, if powered by an inline 6 with a standard trans, not all that thirsty either.
This sucks for the guys who actually use their trucks for work. They want a cheap, easy-to-maintain vehicle to help them put food on the table, but trucks are sold as luxury vehicles now.
And they can thank every insecure bumpkin who took out an 84-month auto loan in order to prove to the world that they're a hard-workin' blue collar man - just don't take away their heated steering wheels because their soft widdle handsies get cold.
i just bought an old working gmc yukon from a friend with working AC and a aftermarket center console with android auto. i literally just use this thing to haul shit around or go over areas with bad dirt roads here. i could not imagine myself buying a new truck, and i paid this bad boy 1000$
The guy who said that empty pickup beds are like keeping the 4 seats of your car empty most of the time actually makes another good argument for why cars are terrible
Even funnier when they actually have a row of empty seats in the back!
Wait til this guy finds out about houses where four of the rooms are empty all the time
I was thinking that my bike has just the one seat! Although I do sometimes feel a little silly when riding the box bike without the 2 kids, backpacks, and diaper bags. Then I remember that a ton of people are riding around with empty car seats, you just can't see them.
right? nice argument for why cars should be smaller in general
@@CityNerd This made me think of minivans and all of the empty seats and when we're going to get a Minivan Soccer Mom Psychoanalysis video, but I don't think there's enough of them that have their ego wrapped up in their vehicle to care and flood your comment section. I think the female counterpart to "truck bros" would be "Crossover Karen". I've met enough of them in my life. They become a parent to 1 child, think they need to have seating for 7 at the ready, but are too cool to drive a minivan, so they buy a minivan packaged in a less space efficient design.
Do you remember when guys would buy sports cars to show off or massage their ego? What happened? At least those cars were nice to look at and fun to ride in. I've accepted rides from guys just for the sake of the experience. Nice times.
You can keep your truck, mister.
a sports car doesnt quite say "i dont care about your safety," or "i WANT to intimidate you, actually" the way a lifted truck does. these people have deep issues.
These are people playing at being rural and working class.
Sports cars do not evoke a rural and working class image.
The only sports cars still being made are the Corvette and the Mazda Miata, both of which are priced beyond many people's reach, especially the Vette, even sporty cars today aren't cheap.
From my European point of view these vehicles make no sense. Here who need a truck like these actually has a van. Fiat Ducato or Iveco Daily here. I'm not surprised that you received bad comments from people that think monster trucks are the best vehicle to buy.
The crazy part is that -- if you go anywhere in Japan -- workers use tiny little 1600-pound kei trucks (like the Daihatsu Hijet and Suzuki Carry) to run farms, haul tools, deliver for small businesses, and such. The typical Daihatsu Hijet in Japan does way more real work than the typical F-150.
And has the same size bed.
OK I'm sold. Where to buy?
If we didn't have bullshit regulation in the states, we would have them too. Trucks get bigger because they have to meet less strict emissions standards.
Infrastructure has accommodated American vehicle size for decades too and I think we have to make room to give roads back to pedestrians, cycling and incentivize people to buy smaller vehicles because it’s unpractical to own these full sized suv and trucks.
People will buy those vehicles if it’s practical and they are given the option. I think Toyota is selling a small truck for 10k in Japan soon.
It’s just too dangerous for people to make those their work vehicles in most places in America.
my favorite rebuttal to kei trucks is that “those japanese toys are useless when you’re trying to haul a gooseneck cattle trailer”. Like the average truck driver is doing the same 😂
I work in trades, and I had a very jarring moment when I was putting an 8' long spirit level onto my roof rack because it wouldn't fit comfortably in my car. Another tradie nearby said "oh maybe you should get a truck." Like, what, so I can move my stupidly long 8' spirit level one time in 3 years? That mindset seems profoundly alien and silly to me, but I think that is honestly the line of reasoning a lot of truck guys use. "I better drive around in this inefficient and unwieldy vehicle all the time in case I need to make use of this useful feature one time"
I had a co-worker in northern MN who was complaining about how much it cost to fill her big truck. I commented that my sensible midsize sedan costs less than half what her's costs.
"Yeah, but what do you do when it snows? You can't go anywhere," she replied.
I pointed out that she has seen me drive to work in snowstorms, and that I live much further away, so have to drive much further in snow and still always make it to work.
"Yeah, but my driveway has an incline and I really don't want to have to shovel it."
I tell her so does mine, steeper than yours, and with a corner half way. Most of the time, it isn't an issue. When I do have to shovel, it takes me maybe an hour, two or three times a year.
"Exactly, I don't have time for that."
So, she's willing to work at a service station for $8/hr, but wont take take few hours a year to save thousands in fuel and maintenance...
It probably wouldn't have fit in his truck either, an 8ft bed is rare.
I do HVAC/R service and even my boss doesn't seem to grasp that I leave the van at the shop unless I'm on call because it costs BOTH of us less for me to commute in my '21 Spark than the '21 Express 2500 work van. Given my commute is only 26 miles, it's still about an hour each way because of so many dudebros in lifted pavement princesses.
Exactly why I don't buy a truck. I would love to have a truck two or three times a year when I need to haul something large, but that's it.
I never worked in a trade but worked a pool job. I would do cleaning, filter install, and pool construction. I swear if we had a pickup truck and not a van we wouldn't be able to haul half the stuff we kept in the back of that van. It was lower to the ground too so it was real easy to take stuff out of the back. Especially the 60-100 pound giant looploc covers we had to move, wasn't a weight issue just a sheer size thing that required 2 people to carry it.
I drive a pickup - it's an older f-150. It basically serves the same purpose as a cargo van. I would never dream of commuting in it. But pickups are versatile tools and great recreational vehicles for camping. 🤷
The key is, it has a lower hood (so it's not a battering ram death machine) and I use it for very specific purposes - moving furniture or appliances, farm stuff, and camping. For getting around town or commuting, i bike.
That point you make about the hood being lower on your older pickup brings up an issue that seems crazy to me. I have driven a number of pickups over the years for my work, and I was lucky enough that most of this was before the time when the hoods of pickup trucks suddenly became so much higher than what was needed just for putting a roof over the engine compartment. Driving in any kind of off-road situation (not for play, but for getting tools to where they would be used), the closer the distance at which you can see the ground in front of you, the better. On modern trucks, you can't see the ground in front of you any closer than about 40 feet, while in a traditional (older-style) pickup you can see the ground in front of you at a distance that is easily less than half that. Virtually all these modern trucks have four-wheel drive, and yet, along with ground-hugging air deflectors and low-profile tires (such tires are horrible off road), they are designed with such poor driver visibility toward the front that they are pretty much useless when off pavement. Go figure.
Not arguing about this. We have always had an old truck to go out into the country on our gravel grid roads. I usually buy 15 year old trucks. They're usually just rear wheel drive, so the fuel economy is good. What we need are tires that won't go flat from from sharp rocks. I think of the truck as a lower cost golf cart. It is our source of recreation locally.
I'm an urbanist. I drive a pickup truck*. We exist.
*An early 2000's Toyota Tacoma 4-banger manual single cab. It gets 20mpg and has enough miles on it to have gone to the moon and back. I love it so much. Small truck urbanist gang rise up!
I was wondering if anyone else felt that way. I have a Hyundai Santa Cruz and use it to haul stuff almost every day and i drive it easy. 25mpg, 2.5l 4 cylinder. I have a friend with a f-150 and he was hating on my ride and I told him I can haul air just as well as him and pay less for gas. Utes and midsize / unibody trucks are the trend right now. You can’t get a Ford Maverick without a year-long wait.
I drive an F-150 so maybe I am not a small truck, but I do feel like one when I am near other pickup truck drivers. Though I will say, I take no pleasure in dissing on other peoples rides except when I feel like doing it in a "friendly comedic way". E.G. "that tiny clown van of yours? naw im just kidding. In all seriousness, that is a cool little Ford transit you got there, man."
Single cab is good cab
I can make an exception for a smaller truck like yours.
I respect small pickup truck owners, as long as it's obviously being used as a truck and not a pavement princess only hauling Costco home. Shoot even if you don't use your "truck" abilities, at least you can see if there is a small child in front of you.. something most pickup truck owners can't say.
Canadian here, living in Calgary Alberta - pickup truck capital of Canada. Lots of folks justify their road fortresses due to the odd bad weather conditions - but then they promptly drive like possessed maniacs during a blizzard and go unintentionally off-road anyway. And the pristine condition of the never-used cargo area never ceases to amaze.
But do they manage to get themselves unstuck with their pavement queens?
I also live in Calgary and drive for transit. Those pickup drivers are a damn menace and are aggressively irresponsible. They’ll cut a bus off on Stoney with 3 clear lanes just to prove they’re the alpha or some inane bullshit. I also laugh at them when snow hits and I wave as I go by in my Corolla on its decent winter tyres.
I live outside of NYC in the suburbs and we hardly get snow (I used to live in the mountains so I know real snow) and people are so dramatic with their car purchases. "It needs to be good in snow". We get flurries and maybe a few inches of snow / year. Every 4-5 years we get a blizzard that will shut roads down. I would say theres on average 1 bad day / year to be on the road otherwise, it's either not strong enough to cause unsafe road conditions or everything is shut down anyway. You really don't NEED an all weather capable vehicle here in my honest opinion and NY is actually the snowiest state in the US lol
I take responsibility for inspiring dozens of young Calgarians to get trucks. By shuttling them as kids at Moose Mountain for mountain biking 😉. Every summer since 2006. I try to compensate by commuting to work by motorcycle in the city.
Ontario here and same happens. I have nothing against truck owners and like the Toyota ones but for me just can’t justify the cost and empty space to just move things. I know urban owners but also those who truly do use it as a truck. Ironic my dad was a semi truck driver for decades but always drove a nice sedan at home. Why? Said he didn’t want to ride in any truck cab at home and used a trailer for the car to move things to our cottage.
I think there's a psychological connection with European style walkable cities. I feel like the overlap between "truck bros" and "Europeans are gay" types is a circle
The only connection is that the politics of the truck owner are more likely to allow for "walkable cities" in the future than those found in this channel.
@@necroflounder walkability is about racial demographics, not about trucks.
I can't stand the shiny city trucks. I also hate the city and public transport.
I love the suburbs and my 2 seat roadster. From my cold dead hands!
@@jakeleisure8326 Do you enjoy paying municipal taxes? I just hope you're aware that your suburbs and roadster require public funding and maintenance.
@@2ndavenuesw481
Racism✅
Pro Truck Comment ✅
Stereotype filled ✅
A small farm truck that's beat to hell is infinitely more manly than an 80,000 paperweight used for country cosplay
imagine tying your identity to a hunk of metal you sit in to go to your office job lmao
We should be more sympathetic. Some people have a hefty price tag tied to how they identified. Just think of all the truck bros that could never be truly happen before the inception of the truck.
In own a pickup, and my current job is work-from-home white collar.
My previous job was highly physical blue collar - and I always rode my bike or walked to work.
People do it with cars just as much.
@@stevesecret2515but that’s because everyone needs a car, especially in America. We all have one or had one at some point. But I would rather take a Mini Cooper than a dualie Ford F-150.
@@therealspeedwagon1451 But it doesn't have to be that way. We built America for cars and oil companies. We need to rebuild for people.
all these huge luxury trucks should be taxed to hell and back. if you don't need a vehicle like this for work you should be paying significantly higher taxes
I’ve seen lots of support from folks in the US for requiring a CDL Class B for anything over 5k. Sienna is fine. Suburban is not. We should do it.
Registration costs should increase with the weight of the vehicle.
@@joe42m13with how often I’ve heard drivers complain about cyclists not paying for road upkeep, you’d think this was common sense. Turns out though, drivers just hate anyone who isn’t a driver and don’t actually care about paying their fair share.
Of course, you can buy an LLC for 100, rent your house to yourself, and then claim your 80K land tank is a "work truck" and enjoy the tax breaks /s
Income taxe should be based on vehicle weight. For personal vehicles anyways. If everyone drove a Fiat 500, we wouldn't need to repair bridges and overpasses multiple times per decade. It's insane how I, as a cyclist, subsidize repairs to infrastructure caused by pickup trucks. And I say income tax because most infrastructure budgets come from income tax, not gas tax or tag fees or anything like that.
It might be that I’m 57, but when I was younger, pickup trucks were definitely not a status symbol. They were an inexpensive way for a farmer or contractor to haul stuff. To me, they’re now like rolling Gucci Bags. Still a bag, but 10x expensive just to have the label.
The back is for animals. Mostly dogs, pigs or sheep.
That's why the Aussies invented them.
If you don't have to take your animals and your family in to town in the same trip, you don't need one.
I love how the sterotype is that "truck guys" are insecure and their immediate response is to prove it in the most boring way possible.
I mean they're basically saying the ultimate jab that drill instructors do. Apparently, the name they use is Gee.
People with pickups shouldn’t show up to work for these people when they need a contractor.
His wife's boyfriend is currently driving a pickup truck😂😂😂
@@KRYMauLIt's Jody in the US
@@Chris_at_HomeIt's pretty obvious that contractors aren't who he's talking about. I have two diesel pickups for my business, which I own and operate by myself, and I couldn't agree more with the criticisms. Guys who don't need trucks just drive the prices up for people like me.
Back in the 60s, my dad went to visit family in "the old country." His grandfather just put his sheep in the back seat of his sedan when he had to move them.
omg did the sheep scratch the truck bed?
Cool come pull my 7 ton
Definitely a sigma
@@wizard_of_poz4413 Your sheep weighs 7 tons? What kind of bioengineered horror is this?
@@hedgehog3180 wtf are you even talking about dude
"Get a car, beta", the single, overweight guy with a mountain of debt says to me while he pulls away in his shiny, clean pickup truck.
that happened
Meanwhile this 'beta' guy: th-cam.com/video/nA40QqNn-1U/w-d-xo.html
And it's so easy to go into debt with these useless trucks. I'll bet there's dealerships giving these to people with lower 300 FICO scores. If there's another 2008, it's going to be auto lenders' fault this time
In single, overweight guys defense. He had to get his shiny, clean pickup truck to the car wash.
@@lukepatten8308 lol nah
A car dealer was quoted in my local newpaper as saying that Ford F - 150s are just luxury vehicles. They love upselling them because the owners want all the bells, heated seats, top of the line GPS and ceramic coating.
Just recently moved to a property on a few acres in the countryside outside our metro. I've got goats, chickens, and a boatload of large dogs. I drive a hatchback. So many of my friends and family kept nudging me like "You gonna get a truck now?" and I resoundingly say no. I grew up driving landyacht hoopties and I even had an SUV for a moment, but the high cost of gas was enough to change my mind years ago. Now that you pay a premium just to own a gas guzzler I'm fully in the camp of only driving hatchbacks, wagons, and minivans.
Hearing someone is concerned about the truck bed getting scratched is just hilarious to me. You wanted a vehicle capable of carrying stuff in the back. You committed to buying a vehicle that costs tens of thousands of dollars, but you couldn't spend the extra little bit to get a bed liner? I guess you don't care *that* much about it. Unless you're also concerned about scratching up the bed liner..in which case lol, lmao even.
My dad was like this with his new lifted Silverado back in... 2005?? I forget the exact year. But we were loading up cut down branches into the bed and he got mad at me not GENTLY sliding the branches into the bed. I hated the damn truck until he finally lightened up about the paint five years later.
You also just don’t really see the truck bed. It’s not like the body of the truck is getting scratched.
Bed liners have always confused me... I don't put a case on my phone because I expect it to be used for a couple years. Anyone ever heard of wear and tear clauses in warranties?
@@RogueAfterlife Some people use phone cases for decoration. I think it's fine if people don't like their phone scratched up either. Also, we should push for phones and things not to be made with planned obsolescence.
The thing that I really don't get about this argument is that bed liners have been a thing for ages, mine even has its factory plastic bed liner in it and scratching/denting the bed has legitimately never been a concern with that. Why people concerned with this never just get a bed liner I don't know
I was in the 5th grade when I realised most 'adults'' were still children with the same chip on their shoulders when they were kids.
My theory is when it comes to us guys, Nobody really advances past age 12 or so. We get better at handling stress we get better hold over our emotions. We learn more complicated concepts, but we’re still over grown big kids who like to show off and think farts are funny. Scratch that, we KNOW farts are funny!
Took me until I was 35 to realize that, good on you!
Bingo
Took me a few years ago when I was in my mid-20s that I came to this dreaded realization. The sooner the better!
@@Mortablunt Don't forget about all the dirty sex jokes!
I'm an extremely conservative (traditionalist Catholic) American living in a small rural town and I also have been radicalized against the modern pickup truck and car-centric planning on general. Most conservatives don't care about preserving the actual social fabric of the communities they claim to love so much, they just care about cozying up to business interests.
Yeah nothing the "conservatives" of today do seem to actually further that. Heck trump, their king, essentially just bent the knee to elon on immigration instantly.
I drove small pickup trucks when I was very young, but left them behind in my 20s. I wasn’t using them to haul often enough to justify the significant additional wind drag, and lack of a secured trunk. The trucks I see on the road today are enormous, and pristine to the point that I know they are about trying to create an image, or to fit in
Strange thought, maybe the people that drive the trucks just like them. I know its a weird thought.
@@generalwillwelsh7926 People buy things they like. Crazy.
"Spend your money how I approve! Reeee!"
As a truck enthusiast, I:
-Maintain a class A CDL
-Own a 1.2L hatchback
-load my hatchback to it's gross vehicle weight rating often, and tow with it occasionally, including both trailers and recovering larger cars.
-aspire to buy a small truck, and by small, I mean Japanese market medium-duty cab-over, smaller than a "¾ ton" but with double the cargo volume, comparable payload, and better visibility.
I also drive large commercial vehicles for work but my personal vehicle is a tiny little hatchback 😂
I love the feeling of driving something light, fast and nimble after a day of driving huge trucks. The irony is never lost on me.
Fr every real truck owner's dream is to have a smaller truck. All of us who actually use them (we haul horse show trailers and horse stuff) are just constantly wishing we had a smaller truck that could do the job like other countries get. Not fair we gotta pay so much for a truck that has an asshole warming feature when all we wanna do is pull around our idiot animal sons
We should just start calling all pickup drivers “toddler flatteners” from now on.
My nickname for them is "murder wagons". 😅
Ooh, sick!🤢
I'm fond of wankpanzer.
One of my goto terms for these is "Death machines"
I read it as flatearther first. However, that totally works as well.
Man, I actually watch your videos at 1x speed because I love the sarcasm and dry humour. And the thinking. Still driving a truck, but I do like some good urban development videos. Keep up the great content.
Before pickups became so popular, SUVs used to fill the role of vehicles that were overly expensive, dangerous, rarely used for their intended purpose, and inefficient.
SUVs still are overly expensive, dangerous, misused, and inefficient. We've just normalized it. Take a look at the emerging compact and subcompact SUV market and the diminishing sedan market.
Eventually we'll come full circle, re-inventing the station wagon by lowering an SUV.
I believe in America it had something to do with meeting emissions standards whereby a longer wheelbase would mean not needing to settle for a much smaller engine. This was before efficient V6 and powerful i4 engines were available on the market. Yet another unintended consequence of well meaning regulation.
@@andresbustamante6077 a compact SUV would have almost double the trunk space of a similar length sedan.
@@AustinLeeds A "crossover" is basically that: a station wagon with modern styling... they're too big is the still the issue.
Had a co-worker roll up in their giant truck one morning. Another co-worker walks up to them and goes, "Sorry, about yer penis." and then walks away.
😂😂😂😂😂😂love this response
Hello from England 🏴!
Great comment. Your co-worker was definitely thinking what I think of Giant Truck drivers…mind you we don’t have many of them in the UK. Thankfully.
Fantastic lol
That's funny but I hope the co-worker that made the inappropriate comment fired on the spot.
@@bloodycrepeyou must be fun at parties 🤡
It's nice to have someone put into words what I was feeling in highschool when I would rev my Subaru's engine behind Frankie's lifted truck just to watch him lose his mind and climb down to scream at me about his father's HVAC business
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Growing up in the south, a lot of kids drove full size and heavy duty trucks but they were all pavement princesses. I had a Geo Tracker I resurrected and a Buick LeSabre. My dad had a single cab 1990 Chevy that he still drives today with 1m+ miles. He has rebuilt it and refuses to sell it because it’s just right for him. I used to be there butt of jokes about my tracker, but now I realize I had the most fun car out of all of them.😂
I think this trend is changing though because most truck sales are for midsize or smaller pickups. L
Lots of find geo tracker memories. RIP geo tracker
It’s going to be OK just take a deep breath
A pickup truck used to be a symbol of the working class. Now it’s become a status symbol.
It's like lobsters and ripped jeans.
My father was a mechanic who thought that trucks should only be used for work. He thought that modern trucks were the equivalent of show ponies from the days of actual horse power. I never purchased a truck. My father also taught me to respect the right of bike riders and motorcyclists to the road. I embraced my father’s beliefs.
your father was a wise man
Nothing more delicate than the feelings of a loser in a giant pickup truck.
I imagine it would be extremely painful to admit to yourself that you're paying $1300/mo for an emotional support vehicle
snowflakes
@@genektegezoink So fucking unimaginative, just as expected
CityNerd just doesn't understand that these vehicles provide a kind of emotional support that just isn't available anywhere else. If you don't believe me, just turn on a country station and listen to all the songs about the mutual love between men and their trucks. Making $1,200 monthly payments may not make sense for an ordinary vehicle, but it does make sense for a rolling safe space.
Bro you’re whining about him making a comment 😂
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Yes! I’m less than one minute into this video and already hit the subscribe button. Whatever comes next, I’m on your side on this.
"Emotional Support Vehicle", a perfect description!
Need emotional support? Get a dog.
@@paulbrower na, get a cat...well two...ok 6....and a dog
That is what the Miata is for me.
@@fortheloveofnoise I miss my oil burning shitbox 🥲
As a cyclist, vast majority of my scary car moments involved a pickup truck. Seemingly buzzing me or trying to roll coal. Most shapes and sizes, from the clapped out modified trucks to the brand new luxury models. Meanwhile the 4Runner/Tacoma folks are usually polite.
I don't even have to describe the vehicle to coworkers that bike to work. Fortunately I don't get as angry, and I try to encourage others to stay completely cool. I used to publish rear and front facing camera views. I'm not running cams anymore. What I still do is apply a little more pedal to ensure that I'm very close to them at the next light. Gee I wonder why they so frantically check their mirror as they are trapped in a box? Yes I've been buzzed by sedans, and I'm happy to put my right grip over their mirror at the next light.
Well, there's at least one good thing about large trucks then. Maybe you'll keep your kiddie toys off of the road used by real people.
@@charlesc3734 lmao cope.
@@charlesc3734
Imagine being offended over other people riding bikes
@@charlesc3734 most cyclists never even try to go in regular traffic lanes unless they don't have any other option. we know full well we're not welcome there, even if traffic laws say we are allowed to use them. most of us are just trying to stay out of the way and get where we're going safely. the least you could do is just let us use the bike lanes in peace.
Australia here - I used to have a neighbour who was a plumber, his work vehicle was your average white HiAce van which was parked in the garage overnight, there was also had a large 4WD fitted with all the fruit including roof rack with a cargo box as the family's non business vehicle and had to park that it in the driveway because that was too tall to fit in to the garage of their house,
Then one day the van was gone and a Dodge Ram appeared parked on the verge with the plumbing company's graphics on the truck bed's canopy. It was SOOOOO big (wide) it wouldn't even fit in the driveway (between the retaining wall and letterbox). As this was a corner block this meant the truck was illegally parked (local laws is that you can't park on the road within 10 meters of a road corner).
AND then he had to buy a trailer because the RAM had way less storage space for work stuff than the HiAce, so now he was parking that, hitched to the RAM which took up the entire street frontage of his property and even projected out in to the intersection.
that lasted for a few months, and I noticed frequent visitations from the local council rangers, and then he was gone, new people moving in - Speaking to the house owner (who's another neighbour) apparently along side the fines there were multiple instances of theft of tools from the back of the truck and the trailer so he broke lease to move out to larger house (so more rent, probably MUCH more rent) just so he could keep his big arse pickup truck instead of do the trade in walk of shame with the dodge and go back to a standard van.
he's prob underwater on the lease, prob 84 month
Long comment but yeah trucks are bad at what they're intended for.
That only speaks of the criminals in your country
Hello to Australia- would love to visit! 🇦🇺
@@guillermomontejo935 When you find an area without criminals, let me know!
I own a pickup however its a 98 chevy s10 its smaller than most SUVs these days. And my primary use is hauling bikes around to different trail systems. Its old. It's beat up. And I love it. While I dont see an issue with small trucks like mine because t's practical and gets the things done that I need to take care of. What I dont understand is these massive over inflated trucks that truck bros are in love with. I do more with my tiny truck out in rural NC than most other people I see in cities around me whose paint doesn't even have dust on it.
My 2003 Chrysler Town and Country Limited minivan has provided more utility to my Family than a truck ever could.
Thanks to two important features, a removable center console and removable 2nd and 3rd row seats, and a 4x8 space in the back with said seats removed, my minivan can haul larger loads and carry more people more comfortably than most pickups on the road.
The 4x8 space in the back is perfect for anything from plywood to Sheetrock, and even appliances like dishwashers, dryers, ovens, and the like. In addition, with the center console removed you can fit a healthy amount of 10' sections of pipe and wood, and if the front passenger is willing sit weird, you can even fit a 12' piece of trim or pipe diagonally over your shoulder. My family used this to flip 2 houses, and build the inside of a huge addition to our house.
And because seats are removable, you could also put them back in, and now you can carry up to 7 people (we didn't have a second row bench seat), and that is 7 people COMFORTABLY. Unlike an SUV like the Tahoe where 3rd row passengers are sitting 3 inches above a raised floor in, the back seat of the minivan had full legroom, as well as individual rear air vents. And as a Family of 4, we ended up using that comfortable 3rd row all the time bringing people along us on road trips.
Not to mention, the minivan is basically a car. It doesn't stick out of parking spaces, you have huge visibility, and it gets pretty good gas mileage too.
I have owned 3 Dodge Caravans and YES, with the STOW AND GO seats, they are great for hauling a lot of stuff, furniture etc.
And they are good for hauling around stuff if you have a small business. Everything is LOCKED INSIDE and hard to steal vs a PICKUP where everything is EASY TO STEAL
I respect trucks that are used for WORK. I despise the shiny, lifted (or squatted), snorkled, over-accessorized decorative trucks with the obligatory muffler delete, milk can-sized tailpipe, blinding LED lights and street-worn mud tires.
Uh-huh...drugstore.
But here’s the thing: work trucks are usually way smaller than the trucks divorced dads drive. No construction worker or farmer is going to use a dualie Ram 2500 with a huge pit pusher in the front for work. They’re more than likely going to use a dedicated truck or tractor for work. The only big trucks that are used for work purposes are 18 wheelers but that’s because America decided to tear down the majority of its railroad infrastructure in place of massive 30 lane freeways.
Most families are better served by a minivan that a pickup truck.
minivans are also much more practical than any cuv/suv as well
minivans are the best!
Agreed. IMO, minivans are the most versatile, useful vehicle design ever made. They are the veritable Swiss Army Knife of vehicles. Carry 7 passengers? Yup. Carry a 4 X 8 sheet of plywood in the back, flat on the floor, with the hatch closed? Yup. Easily converted to a mini camper for weekend trips to the mountains? Yup. Move all but the largest pieces of furniture? Yup. Yeah, no vehicle is more flexible and useful than the humble minivan.
@@jaybickford512nothing humble about these new minivans lol.
Right, If your wife's boyfriend already has a truck, why should you.
I'm happy you brought this up. As a US citizen of the state of Georgia for most of my life, I've lived in Atlanta and in rural areas like tiny Trion, GA in the NW where we live now.
I've watched the growth of huge pickups in urban and rural settings. Recently, within the past ten years and all the political polarity, I've seen an increase in rudeness from these drivers. My daughter and I are of course the ones in my daughter's Ford Transit van most every trip. We have close calls every time we drive on US 27. The vast majority of these close calls are truck drivers.
There are plenty of vans and people in commercial vehicles of all sizes who have tags that mark them from other counties. Yet, it's these big trucks that cut us off or honk at us for going the speed limit. Many of them have something that marks their right-leaning politics. My daughter and I are dots of blue in a red county. Nothing sets our van apart as we don't put even a bumper sticker on it, no window decals, or holiday deco. We don't get a handicapped tag but opt for the tag that hangs on the rear view mirror in parking lots, but that doesn't seem to increase incidents.
We have the van in case we want to bring my wheelchair, but practically, it's hard for my daughter to lift it in because of her arthritic knee. Most of our trips to Walmart, she can't find a motorized scooter for me so I end up walking in or sitting in the van while she goes in. Stores don't provide enough of these, and there are too many spoiled parents who see the scooter as a toy for their non-handicapped child, and they break them.
Back in the 1950's, my dad's (mining) company had a chevolet Apache pickup truck for employee use. It was an actual work truck and it was about 1/2 - 3/4 the average size of a typical truck you'd see today.
A relative of mine bought a new pickup (ESV) three years ago. Lives in a suburb of Vancouver. They can’t park the behemoth in normal places. As far as I know, they only used the bed once in 3 years to transport a washer from Costco.
Nah, it's my husband's boyfriend who has the truck.
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You have a husband who has a BOYFRIEND???
@@jamesbosworth4191 are you sure I'm being serious?
@@jamesbosworth4191 no, the husband has a boyfriend who has a boyfriend
This is so spot on. I notice a huge percentage of these guys having hostile, rightwing decals, as well as parking with no license plates or having the plates obscured.
I recently came within a hair's-breadth of losing my foot as a result of a close encounter with a Big Pickup Truck. I was walking through a parking lot with a curb to the left of me and open space all around when this dude - who made eye contact with me - made a tight right hand turn in front of me, hugging said curb, leaving me no choice but to leap up on it and slap his truck while hollering choice words at him. Proof that even coastal LA isn't immune to Big Pickup Truck Syndrome.
A while ago I was jogging. I stopped at a crosswalk and waited for my light, like a good car-deferent pedestrian. The light changed and I jogged into the intersection as a big truck runs the light and nearly strikes me. I tapped on the side of it as it flew past to say, "Hey, I'm here!" Then continued jogging. At the next intersection, while again waiting for the light, the woman driver comes running up yelling and swearing at me. She runs into the road, forcing cars to stop, comes up to me and starts shoving me, "how do you like it, you *homophobic slur*." I kept my arms crossed so she couldn't accuse me of anything and pointed out the she had run the light and nearly hit me and that her truck really is terrible if a little tap is all it takes to damage it. She then walked back into road, yelling death threats, and giving the finger to cars that honked at her before heading into a restaurant/bar.
I can take some consolation in the fact I probably ruined her night, but feel bad about the abuse she likely leveled at the staff...
My bike's closest encounter with a pickup truck was when a pickup owner at work decided that it was too late in the day for me to ride my bike home. My bike did not come home with me in the truck bed; it rode in the cab.
This vid came at a perfect time - had to take a Lyft into the city since there's no public transit for me to visit my dad in the hospital from his apartment. An old man picked me up in this MASSIVE pristine silver truck that I had trouble getting into. He missed a few turns (thankfully the city is a grid, so it was fine) and proceeded to complain about how the city needed to "fix" the roads because they were so small. Mind you, we were on a street with two parking lanes and two travel lanes I could tell were easily 12 ft wide, and even then he had trouble staying in his lane... The transportation planner in me was in awe. But it was also kind of sad. I wonder if this tiny old man got this big truck because it made him feel safer and more secure... at the expense of everyone else.
How does a ride share driver make driving a huge pickup make financial sense?
@@michaelvickers4437if somebody can do math, they wouldn't buy a pickup.
Yes that is why
@@michaelvickers4437 Chances are he's using that gig-employment to pay for his expensive vanity vehicle.
@@michaelvickers4437He will cry and whine and complain about the consequences of his choices
I have a 4cyl 2004 Tacoma. It gets pretty decent mileage and I use it to go surfing and snowboarding. It’s also come in pretty handy to help friends move and to also pick up second hand furniture. Best of all it has over 200,000 miles on it and has not required any major repairs. It doesn’t burn oil and still runs really well. The smaller pick ups that were available til the early 2000s weren’t inefficient or unsafe.
Regarding these giant suburban status pickups, I wonder if the oppressive blandness of middle-class suburban life itself might be a big part of what drives people to own these monstrosities that are marketed to give them a false sense of rugged individualism that is missing from their office-bound, HOA-regulated daily lives. Maybe it makes up for not being allowed to paint their house the color they want or landscape their yard the way they want.
Oh yeah! Trucks are marketed as a way to be a rugged masculine individualist and break out of your domesticity, but for most truck owners its all performance.
You might have a point, but a bigger point is the fact that you can't buy a nice full-size car with a V8 or Straight 8 engine and chrome trim anymore, unless you want to buy an old wreck and restore it. Not everybody wants to drive a small Japanese car.
Thank you for continuing to troll the toxic masculine. I used to live on a farm. I had a Subaru Forester into which I packed at various times: a month’s worth of animal feed, straw bales, actual live chicks, actual live lambs (seven of ‘em), incubators, broadforks, and on and on. It all fit back there in the Subaru, was covered, easy load and unload. None of it got wet. Bought it in 2013, and it’s still going strong.
wagons are the best pickup trucks
That had to have been s hobby farm... be honest. Did you own a combine?
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There are small farms that are cost effective and profitable without heavy machinery. They provide different products than a typical wheat or corn field.
@@josephk.4200 So you're basically confirming what he said, It's a hobby farm.
@@josephk.4200 Yeah, that is my point. A very small farm can probably get by with a Suburu, a large farm with a lot of machinery, acerage or livestock will require a fleet of pickups just to service and maintain the farm. Thank you for the comment and for supporting farms of all sizes.
Aside from the insidious truck plague, there are also the same brand of people driving Mercedes and similar superfluous “luxury” cars in Germany who think you are the scum of the earth if you bike or walk.
I think it's that those kinds of people gravitate towards those vehicles, not that the kind of people who own those vehicles are like that. Personally, I'd prefer the comfort of my A6 and S6 when I have to take trips from Dallas to Austin, San Antonio, or Houston instead of walking. While they aren't the most fuel efficient, I can't complain about 30-36mpg vs. trying to walk that distance.
That said, I would never buy them new. 60-100k is insane.
These people are driving now Mercedes GLC Coupés or the BMW X line.
Because a normal car is too small.
This video makes so much sense. We have a 1/2 ton for pulling our trailers and for farm work. The day after I no longer had heavy equipment to tow, we traded our 1 ton for a compact SUV. Seeing people buying diesel trucks that'll never pull a trailer is absolutely ridiculous. Honestly, even if someone is towing, diesels are impractical unless it's heavy and constant.