I was baptized Catholic, raised Protestant, am in the confirmation process. If you're baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, you're technically Catholic because Catholic is Christian. I strongly suggest coming home, especially if you've made it as far as Unitatis redintegratio. HMU if you want to chat about it.
@@louislee2563Thanks for the invitation to chat 🙂 I've heard that since I had a trinitarian baptism, I am technically Catholic, and thanks for affirming that for me ❤️ Long story, but I've been researching this fairly intensely since Sunday when I ended up talking to a very knowledgeable lady after Mass. (I didn't attend that particular Mass, but I do sometimes.) Here's the situation I run into, both in documents from Vatican II and articles from Catholic Answers: All properly baptized believers are in the body of Christ. The body of Christ is synonymous with the Church. The Church is synonymous with the Catholic Church. Therefore, Catholic, Orthodox, and a lot of Protestants are all in the Catholic Church. But there's a diversity of beliefs among all those people. It seems like the real issue, then, would be chipping away at whatever wrong beliefs are possessed by people in the Church. Is an American who thinks of themselves as Catholic and even occasionally partakes of the Eucharist but doesn't follow the papal instructions on contraception really any different from a Protestant?
@@louislee2563 Following up on my earlier post - I found this article on the internet at a site called Catholic Times titled "Hey, Father! Explain the Church's teaching on birth control" It sounds like generally speaking, the contraceptive-using Catholic ought not to receive Holy Communion. So in that sense at least, they are in the same situation as a Protestant.
(CATECHUMEN CAVIAT: I speak for myself and my experience with Catholicism lol) Interesting lines of research! I hope I'll do the Catholic teaching justice. I'll start by saying generally, to be careful of comparing practicing Catholics who fall into sin with Protestants. If you read Unitatis Redintegratio or Ut Unum Sint, to be baptized into the Church (as Protestants are) is not the same as confirmed in or communion with Christ in the Church. I would say that's the best place to start, to piggy-back off of your definitions of the body of Christ. From there, for a practicing Catholic to be in some sort of sin, any sort venial or mortal, yes: they should abstain from communion or the Eucharist, as that is literally communing with Christ. Which, again, is only done in THE Church or I think the Orthodox? I think they have valid sacraments, just not in communion with Rome. Some internet warrior could correct me on that. The only Protestant-equivalency I've found in Catholicism are those who reject the Pope and the Magisterium, yet try and retain the title of Catholic or Christian.@@jmalko9152
Thank you for this treasure! 🕊️
Protestant here (at least I think that's what I am),
Amen to Christian unity and thank you for this video 🕊️.
I was baptized Catholic, raised Protestant, am in the confirmation process. If you're baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, you're technically Catholic because Catholic is Christian. I strongly suggest coming home, especially if you've made it as far as Unitatis redintegratio. HMU if you want to chat about it.
@@louislee2563Thanks for the invitation to chat 🙂 I've heard that since I had a trinitarian baptism, I am technically Catholic, and thanks for affirming that for me ❤️ Long story, but I've been researching this fairly intensely since Sunday when I ended up talking to a very knowledgeable lady after Mass. (I didn't attend that particular Mass, but I do sometimes.)
Here's the situation I run into, both in documents from Vatican II and articles from Catholic Answers:
All properly baptized believers are in the body of Christ.
The body of Christ is synonymous with the Church.
The Church is synonymous with the Catholic Church.
Therefore, Catholic, Orthodox, and a lot of Protestants are all in the Catholic Church.
But there's a diversity of beliefs among all those people. It seems like the real issue, then, would be chipping away at whatever wrong beliefs are possessed by people in the Church. Is an American who thinks of themselves as Catholic and even occasionally partakes of the Eucharist but doesn't follow the papal instructions on contraception really any different from a Protestant?
@@louislee2563 Following up on my earlier post -
I found this article on the internet at a site called Catholic Times titled
"Hey, Father! Explain the Church's teaching on birth control"
It sounds like generally speaking, the contraceptive-using Catholic ought not to receive Holy Communion. So in that sense at least, they are in the same situation as a Protestant.
(CATECHUMEN CAVIAT: I speak for myself and my experience with Catholicism lol) Interesting lines of research! I hope I'll do the Catholic teaching justice. I'll start by saying generally, to be careful of comparing practicing Catholics who fall into sin with Protestants. If you read Unitatis Redintegratio or Ut Unum Sint, to be baptized into the Church (as Protestants are) is not the same as confirmed in or communion with Christ in the Church. I would say that's the best place to start, to piggy-back off of your definitions of the body of Christ.
From there, for a practicing Catholic to be in some sort of sin, any sort venial or mortal, yes: they should abstain from communion or the Eucharist, as that is literally communing with Christ. Which, again, is only done in THE Church or I think the Orthodox? I think they have valid sacraments, just not in communion with Rome. Some internet warrior could correct me on that.
The only Protestant-equivalency I've found in Catholicism are those who reject the Pope and the Magisterium, yet try and retain the title of Catholic or Christian.@@jmalko9152