I'm not sure if I'd call this my "favorite" Civ theme, but it's one of the ones that really captures what the leader and nation were about. Listening to this, you can absolutely picture it being in a movie about a warrior queen making a last stand against the powerful empire that killed her son.. and winning but still that's not enough. Scythia and Gaul.. two civilizations that we have little or no surviving music from, but that allows the composers to do what they do best, and make something from scratch that lets you picture history. And the results are fantastic.
similar thing with Sumeria and Babylon, since the music we *do* have from that time period is very, very limited, meaning that the composer has greater freedom there too and as a result both of those civs' themes capture this wonderful feeling of mystery surrounding ancient sandstone cities that fade into the desert mirage
Exactly same as Mongolia! I always imagine I was one of the enormous calvary who conquered the whole Asia for Genghis Khan when listen to the medieval version of Mongolian theme.
Hello James Bielli. I do also believe Tomyris is probably my favourite civ, but I genuinely love playing them while an australian player is on the field as well. I find that the Australian medieval theme fits very well in the lore where Tomyris' troops captured a great feast of wares just before the decent into madness. I also had a game once where it happened somewhat like that. I did something the persian dude didn't like so he went 'red' on me. I charged in with cavalry and when I killed a city the australian song played. so I reveled in my victory. All out war with the persians followed and then Tomyris' own music played often too. The funny thing is the sequence of events how I rememebered them and your edited music theme like this kinda follws right along with it, save for the australian theme. Just wanted to say: thank you for triggering that fond memory!
@@hisholiness4537 Wethe or not there's enough substantial evidence to suggest she has truly existed, historians seem to believe some accounts on her are true. so she very well might have. I would reckon Tomyris, same like Artemisia, is one of those people of whom we may never know the most intricate details, but stories of their greatness must be based in some form of truth. Coincidentally the same ancient greek historian has traced some stories to each these people.
Queen Tomyris before going to war against King Kyros II. of the Achaemenid-Persian Empire who was the most powerful man of that time and had captured the son of Tomyris and occupied Saka territory: "Restore my son to me and get you from the land unharmed, triumphant over a third part of the host of the Massagetai. Refuse, and I swear by the sun, the sovereign lord of the Massagetai, bloodthirsty as you are, I will give you your fill of blood." Herodotus, The History I.212 But Kyros didn’t pay attention to these words and Tomyris’s son chose to commite suicide rather than living in captivity. For this Tomyris went to war against Kyros and defeated him. She severed his head from his corpse and dipped it in a skin filled with human blood while saying these words: "I live and have conquered you in fight, and yet by you am I ruined, for you took my son with guile; but thus I make good my threat, and give you your fill of blood." Herodotus, The History I.214
I just listened to a Yanni concert and learned the main instrument to drive this theme was over 2,000 years old and generated right in the Scythian area. The level of detail Christopher Ting had with the music is almost worth the purchase price of the games themselves.
It's gorgeous, especially the way the theme changes with the eras. Learning about people is a sign of respect, pure and simple. And I like that the leaders have their own unique look and most of the women don't look like eye-candy was the main priority while designing them. I love the look of Tomyris: not mean, but not somebody to mess with either. And who knows, if I live a very, very healthy life style and avoid thunder storms, I might just live to see a Cleopatra without a pin-up style cleavage. ;)
Scythians didn't even speak Persian. Sure by culture many things were Iranian, but those things were also gathered from various parts of Caucassus and Middle East anyway since Iran didn't come from the sky one day.
The Atomic theme just felt so epic during my last game as it was playing as I was bombing and nuking the last of my enemies. It had a "This is the end! Doom is upon you!" feel to it.
Persian is a language on the same branch of the Indo-European language family as Scythian so there is actually a relation. With Turkic not so much, apart from the fact that both were cultures of nomadic peoples from the steppe.
The people of Anatolia were Iranians and the people of Istanbul were Greeks. The Mongols or the Mongols turk conquered the lands of the Scythians and Anatolians, and killed most of the people of Anatolia and forcibly Turkishized the language of their survivors
@Мастурбек Кумысович the real turk have mongol DNA and mongol face and if you don't have that then you are Persian from Achaemenid empire like people of iran Tajikistan Afghanistan and.....
@Мастурбек Кумысович Caucasus is a part of Iran(persia) that Russia separated from Iran during World War II. Caucasus is an Iranian word meaning mountain.
@@jeffk7293 no not them but dothraki is closet than snakes. Tomyris never was Persian she was saka scythian , they were nomads and looked in mix of caucasian and asian they moved to modern Armenia,Ossetia lands that's why duduk was involved in music of theme. Dothraki are nomads and look like Mongolians in books and behave. For eurasian nomads it's our culture that revolves around archery,horses and steppe.
I was stunned to find out that Iran had a female ruler. One who had actual power and was a warrior. Looking at Iran now, the thought would never pass people's heads.
She is not Persian nor Iranian but pre Islamic Persian and also pre Islamic Arab history are full with queens. Its funny how they made dispropoganda about the Persians in the movie 300, ironically Ancient Greeks are one of the most misogynistic people the world had ever seen.
scythian didnt live in whole iran, just the khorasan part, and turkmenistan afghanistan etc etc. some migrated to iran. but they werent purely iranians or persians they weere basically ukranian caucassian khazak uzbekistani tukmenistani steppes people. and i am a jatt, and i found out that we were scythians who migrated to punjab in pakistan and india. im so glad my ancestors were scythians
They were nomadic never truly settled anywhere permanently they had even traveled to parts of Europe but they can most be traced back to the middle east were Iran and many other countries were later founded so saying they are strictly one culture or another is wrong
She never ruled Iran. Cyrus the Great ruled the Iran when Tomyris was alive. But still, there have been three female rulers in Iran, all of them predating the islamisation of Iran. One being a Roman slave girl who ruled Parthia with her son, and the other two being noble sisters during the midst of chaos in the fall of the Sassanid Empire.
@@FarooqKhanx-mk5jv I’m from abbasi family though and we have 30 percent R1a haplogroup concentration which is associated with the Iranic nomadic people who migrated to the region. A lot of Pashtuns have 20-45% R1a aswell. You be the judge
@@eonthinker100yrago8 yeah as I said being Arian doesn't mean you are a Scythian there were a lot of other Aryan people and Scythians are a part of the Aryan family so u are probably not a Scythian.
I will make a new culture combining this culture, the Mexican, the Brazilian, Japanese and the Buddhist aesthetic. Also a language and architecture. Hopefully I can do it and create a new ethnic group starting with my family: wife and children.
@Emile Des Champs Of course i do, i live in Mexico, and as such i see how they have a lot of things but culture and identity. A people have their own language, because through it actual tradition and culture is transmitted, and appart from natives, they don't have one, only post colonial residues, and no, the only thing it works for is to become consumerist slaves. Whatever patriotism there is has no fundamental basis, but i guess that a brat of your words cannot get that inside the head. All of the americas, but paraguay (since they keep alive and by the majority the guarani language), are a pure and weak excuse to promote flow of capital in places where cultures have been pulverized and left to starve.
@Arda Gezik The fact that you stated that wikipedia was an unreliable source and used the *armenian genocide*, a historical event which was documented and recognized to have caused *1.5 million of deaths* as being a fallacy doesn't help your argument, especially when you use a Wikipedia article *yourself*.
Ksjs Jdjdb nah u can’t accept the fact that they were indo aryan people. Give me Some sources instead of a “dude trust me”. Wait... u have none. Oh well.
Ksjs Jdjdb all of these have no actual sources. For all I can know u got these from Some random turkish site. Actual historians say that scythians were aryan people. Hell I got this teached in high school in The Netherlands. Cry more turk boy.
Can anyone say is it copyrighted or not? I'm planning to use it in history videos for TH-cam on Kazakh history. Our music is similar to it as we're too descendants of Scythians.
Given that the Persians and Scythians were cousins of one another we can only GUESS. See the piping on her clothes? those were in rage in Iran for many centuries. And in some remote parts of that country they still are.
BBBJOT mate, actually I couldn't find the original song but maybe I can help you about where should you look for it. Scythian (İskit in Turkish) Empire is one of the first empires founded by Turks and Scythians have got Turkic language and Turkic culture, so I can tell this song can be based on other ancient Turkish and Mongolian war songs. Also Scythians are ancestry of Yakutian Turks (Sakhas/Сахалар/Sakalar), the song could be one of their folk song. As a Turk, this song doesn't seem similar to me at all, but the instruments are same with instruments which have used in other ancient Turkish war musics.
Mei Lin Chan I don't think so, also Darius don't agree with you too. According to Persian historical sources, Scythians have Turkic origins that coming from Central Asia. Darius refuses to describe Scythians as Persian people.
Scythians didn’t look Turkic like that at all. They were Indo Europeans. They had blond, red and brown hair, blue eyes and of Caucasian/Europid features. They were virtually indistinguishable from their surrounding IE neighbors such as the ancient Hellenes, Tocharians, Hittites and Corded Ware peoples due to them being of the same Caucasian stock.
Mullerornis Turkic peoples have swarthy skin with darker features, ie Turkmen, Turks, Azeris, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Mongols, etc. And yes they were nomadic but had distinct Caucasian features that were consistent which I mentioned in my first comment. This was due to them descending from Corded Ware and the Yamnaya/Eastern Hunter Gatherers expanding in all directions but from the same place (Pontic Caspian Steppe) hence they had consistent phenotypes.
@Ksjs Jdjdb But their language, personal names, material culture, burial customs and religion were Iranic. Genetically, the ancient Scythians were quite similar to modern day ethnic Russians and Ukrainians. With the Scythians frequently being red or blond haired, blue eyed and predominately of West Eurasian ancestry, with the majority of their heritage coming from the Pontic Steppe (modern day Ukraine). The Afanasievo culture was Indo-European, infact the Afanasievo culture weas genetically identical to the Yamnaya culture. The Kurgan, or Yamnaya culture, isn't Turanid, it is the homeland of the Proto-Indo-European people. You're literally claiming that the Proto-Indo-Europeans and the Sumerians were both Turks. 3 separate language families with their associated people's having observable genetic differences. You're a fucking moron. "A June 2015 genetic study published in Nature included an analysis of four females from the Afanasievo culture. Two individuals carried haplogroup J2a2a, one carried T2c1a2, and one carried U5a1a1.[1][12] The authors of the study found that the Afanasievo were "genetically indistinguishable" from the Yamnaya culture.[1] The results indicated that the expansion of the ancestors of the Afanasievo people into the Altai was carried out through "large-scale migrations and population displacements",[1] without admixture with local populations.[13][1] The Afanasievo people were also found to be closely related to the Poltavka culture.[13] According to the authors of the study, the study underpinned the theory that the Afansievo people were Indo-Europeans, perhaps ancestors of the Tocharians.[1] In a genetic study published in Science in 2018, the remains of 24 individuals ascribed to the Afanasievo culture were analyzed. Of the 14 samples of Y-DNA extracted, 10 belonged to R1b1a1a2a2, 3 belonged to Q1a2, and 1 belonged to R1b1a1a2a. With respect to mtDNA, most samples belonged to subclades of U (particularly subclades of U5), although T, J, H and K was also detected. The authors of the study cited the results as evidence that the culture emerged as a result of a migration from the Pontic-Caspian steppe.[14]:" Proto-Turks had haplogroup C1. The Slavic peoples, the Scythians and the Afanasievo culture (which existed from 3300 BCE, not 7000 BCE) had haplogroup R1b and R1a with minorities of Q1 and I2a. The Sumerians were mostly haplogroup G2, E1b, J1 and J2 with minorities of R1b. The Sumerians are genetically like Arabs. The Afanasievo culture is an offshoot of the Corded-Ware (which is centered in Germany and Poland) and the Sintashta culture. The Corded Ware culture and the Sintashta culture are both offshoots of the Yamnaya culture.
The Scythians are known as Skytai in Greek records, Ishkuza in Assyrian sources and Sakas in Persian sources. It is thought that the origins of the Scythians are based on the Sumerians, and they are one of the Pre-Turkic societies that migrated to the west after the Sumerians disappeared from the scene of history.
@@VV-nz4dv Bruteforcing her way to power isn't proof of strategic prowess, any idiot with a strong army can do that. She won the throne, yes, but she would have ruled over what? Ashes and despair? She basically obliterated King's Landing, and put herself into the minds and souls of every single person in Westeros as a crazy foreign invader at the head of an army of savages. Hadn't Jon Snow killed her, she would have most likely faced endless guerrilla warfare, and eventually be killed anyway. That is not what a true leader does, both to obtain and keep power. (the problem with that ending is that, despite being somewhat foreshadowed, it litterally came too hard and too fast to be really enjoyable, I do not see Dany going nuts as "completely out of character", she is, after all, the Mad King's progeny, the problem is that the whole arc is rushed in two three episodes). Also, the way she handled the cities on slavers' bay is stupid, from a military strategy point of view. Any military strategist worth his salt will tell you that overthrowing a regime without putting a different system in place and pacifying the region is basically asking for a guerrilla to start wreaking havoc, that is precisely what happened with the Sons of the Harpies). She overestimated the gratitude of the freed slaves, and never considered that slaves, once freed, would not have had anything to fall back to. In shackles they were deprived of freedom, but they were fed, clothed, and somewhat "protected" because of their status as valued proprety. After that it was a free-for-all, every man for himself, and that is why many slaves ended up alongside their former masters in the Harpies. The reasoning being "if I indeed need to be ruled, let it be someone of my culture", which is an understandable reaction, in that scenario. Tomirys, according to the scant records we have about her, united the steppe tribes, which have been squabbling amongst themselves for generations at that point, into a cohese and solid army to field against the King of Kings, and won, ruling to her last day over the steppe she contributed to keep free of Persian influence, and keeping Darius's skull as a drinking cup.
@Ksjs Jdjdb But their language, personal names, material culture, burial customs and religion were Iranic. Genetically, the ancient Scythians were quite similar to modern day ethnic Russians and Ukrainians. With the Scythians frequently being red or blond haired, blue eyed and predominately of West Eurasian ancestry, with the majority of their heritage coming from the Pontic Steppe (modern day Ukraine). The Afanasievo culture was Indo-European, infact the Afanasievo culture weas genetically identical to the Yamnaya culture. The Kurgan, or Yamnaya culture, isn't Turanid, it is the homeland of the Proto-Indo-European people. You're literally claiming that the Proto-Indo-Europeans and the Sumerians were both Turks. 3 separate language families with their associated people's having observable genetic differences. You're a fucking moron. "A June 2015 genetic study published in Nature included an analysis of four females from the Afanasievo culture. Two individuals carried haplogroup J2a2a, one carried T2c1a2, and one carried U5a1a1.[1][12] The authors of the study found that the Afanasievo were "genetically indistinguishable" from the Yamnaya culture.[1] The results indicated that the expansion of the ancestors of the Afanasievo people into the Altai was carried out through "large-scale migrations and population displacements",[1] without admixture with local populations.[13][1] The Afanasievo people were also found to be closely related to the Poltavka culture.[13] According to the authors of the study, the study underpinned the theory that the Afansievo people were Indo-Europeans, perhaps ancestors of the Tocharians.[1] In a genetic study published in Science in 2018, the remains of 24 individuals ascribed to the Afanasievo culture were analyzed. Of the 14 samples of Y-DNA extracted, 10 belonged to R1b1a1a2a2, 3 belonged to Q1a2, and 1 belonged to R1b1a1a2a. With respect to mtDNA, most samples belonged to subclades of U (particularly subclades of U5), although T, J, H and K was also detected. The authors of the study cited the results as evidence that the culture emerged as a result of a migration from the Pontic-Caspian steppe.[14]:" Proto-Turks had haplogroup C1. The Slavic peoples, the Scythians and the Afanasievo culture (which existed from 3300 BCE, not 7000 BCE) had haplogroup R1b and R1a with minorities of Q1 and I2a. The Sumerians were mostly haplogroup G2, E1b, J1 and J2 with minorities of R1b. The Sumerians are genetically like Arabs. The Afanasievo culture is an offshoot of the Corded-Ware (which is centered in Germany and Poland) and the Sintashta culture. The Corded Ware culture and the Sintashta culture are both offshoots of the Yamnaya culture.
Blonde, blue-eyed, fair skinned people. Take a look at the Kalash people from the Chitral Valley of Pakistan. It's so south and east from central asia yet the people remain to look russian. Now if you look at the history and go north and west, then the people living there must have been even more russian looking. Scythians spoke a northeast Iranic language. They ruled the lands from modern day Romania to the Tarim Basin. From them descended the Khotanese people, the Massagetae, the Dahae, and the Indo-Scythians.
The people of Anatolia were Iranians and the people of Istanbul were Greeks. The Mongols or the Mongols turk conquered the lands of the Scythians and Anatolians, and killed most of the people of Anatolia and forcibly Turkishized the language of their survivors
@@Iran.cyrusi It is also mentioned in this book that the Scythians are Turkish, even Iranian sources say it "شاهنامه" "فردوسی" I Told The Author And The Book
@@Iran.cyrusi they are Turks! You are Persian and by it you say that. Saks or Scythians never aren't a Persian. I'm Kazakh but remember our own history. our history was cunningly rewritten in the USSR under the leadership of Stalin. You have no proof that the Saki were Iranian. They were Türks! The Iranians have always been much farther south. On the territory of Kazakhstan where Tomiris lived, excavations were carried out where the things of the Saks were found and they have nothing to do with the Persians, all the bowls and decorations were engraved in the Turkic language! The Saki had no blood or cultural relations with the Persians. Not for that my ancestors fought against the vile Cyrus so that his descendants of the snake would say so about my ancestors
0:00 Saka_Horse_Archer.mp4
1:30: Courser.mp4
5:26: Calvary.mp4
9:48 Helicopter.mp4
Civs like Scythia actually made me realize each AI-controlled civ spams a certain thing. In this case something that crosses the continent in 3 turns.
0:00 Ancient
1:30 Medieval
5:26 Industrial
9:48 Atomic
You will be remembered.
Wow thank you
Thanks dude.
I'm not sure if I'd call this my "favorite" Civ theme, but it's one of the ones that really captures what the leader and nation were about. Listening to this, you can absolutely picture it being in a movie about a warrior queen making a last stand against the powerful empire that killed her son.. and winning but still that's not enough.
Scythia and Gaul.. two civilizations that we have little or no surviving music from, but that allows the composers to do what they do best, and make something from scratch that lets you picture history. And the results are fantastic.
similar thing with Sumeria and Babylon, since the music we *do* have from that time period is very, very limited, meaning that the composer has greater freedom there too
and as a result both of those civs' themes capture this wonderful feeling of mystery surrounding ancient sandstone cities that fade into the desert mirage
Exactly same as Mongolia!
I always imagine I was one of the enormous calvary who conquered the whole Asia for Genghis Khan when listen to the medieval version of Mongolian theme.
Tomyris most likely didn't even exist
Hello James Bielli.
I do also believe Tomyris is probably my favourite civ, but I genuinely love playing them while an australian player is on the field as well.
I find that the Australian medieval theme fits very well in the lore where Tomyris' troops captured a great feast of wares just before the decent into madness.
I also had a game once where it happened somewhat like that.
I did something the persian dude didn't like so he went 'red' on me. I charged in with cavalry and when I killed a city the australian song played. so I reveled in my victory.
All out war with the persians followed and then Tomyris' own music played often too. The funny thing is the sequence of events how I rememebered them and your edited music theme like this kinda follws right along with it, save for the australian theme.
Just wanted to say: thank you for triggering that fond memory!
@@hisholiness4537 Wethe or not there's enough substantial evidence to suggest she has truly existed, historians seem to believe some accounts on her are true. so she very well might have. I would reckon Tomyris, same like Artemisia, is one of those people of whom we may never know the most intricate details, but stories of their greatness must be based in some form of truth. Coincidentally the same ancient greek historian has traced some stories to each these people.
Queen Tomyris before going to war against King Kyros II. of the Achaemenid-Persian Empire who was the most powerful man of that time and had captured the son of Tomyris and occupied Saka territory:
"Restore my son to me and get you from the land unharmed, triumphant over a third part of the host of the Massagetai. Refuse, and I swear by the sun, the sovereign lord of the Massagetai, bloodthirsty as you are, I will give you your fill of blood."
Herodotus, The History I.212
But Kyros didn’t pay attention to these words and Tomyris’s son chose to commite suicide rather than living in captivity. For this Tomyris went to war against Kyros and defeated him. She severed his head from his corpse and dipped it in a skin filled with human blood while saying these words:
"I live and have conquered you in fight, and yet by you am I ruined, for you took my son with guile; but thus I make good my threat, and give you your fill of blood."
Herodotus, The History I.214
@Thomas Kilogram Damn bro I bet the Kazakh government pays you grandly for all this propoganda work
@@iSyriux Its history, you fuck. Those words were written in another language millennia ago. Read a goddamned book, please.
@@iSyriux Cope harder
Three people disliked because they stabbed Tomyris in the back and were destroyed by her cavalry.
Four
@@Spino2Earth 11
Ok let Genghis khan handle this.
@@alexgrama4411 I miss the dislike button :(
I just listened to a Yanni concert and learned the main instrument to drive this theme was over 2,000 years old and generated right in the Scythian area. The level of detail Christopher Ting had with the music is almost worth the purchase price of the games themselves.
It's gorgeous, especially the way the theme changes with the eras. Learning about people is a sign of respect, pure and simple.
And I like that the leaders have their own unique look and most of the women don't look like eye-candy was the main priority while designing them. I love the look of Tomyris: not mean, but not somebody to mess with either.
And who knows, if I live a very, very healthy life style and avoid thunder storms, I might just live to see a Cleopatra without a pin-up style cleavage. ;)
Christopher Tin only composed the title theme, not the civ themes
Yeah, a good one that's pretty much overlooked.
absolutely love the medieval version
is. the. fuckin. best. in. game.
It's my favourite song in the game. I always thought it was Romes music
The music is so beautiful I felt like I was travelling to an exotic country on horseback.
atomic sounds like a song that would play in a dystopian movie
Idk how they do it but just when you listen that music you can easely imagine horsman in scyntian steppe
I think it's thanks to the drums in the background that sound a lot like the galloping hooves of horses...
When the horse is of no use, turks nowadays raids comment section
Why can't we just go back to the good ol days
Schythian were an Iranic people
now a days Pashtuns are decendants of Schythians If I got a chance to go to Afghanistan I will meet them.
@@khalidmukhtiar854 How such Ossetians are the closest descendants
@@soslanroseft4750 Ossetians and Pashtuns shares the same Lineage
In between majority of the Sakaes migrated to Afghanistan
Scythians were an Iranian people dude
this is the best music of civilization VI
absolutely
THANK YOU. The only one that could really compete is Medieval France, or possibly Atomic Australia.
No. This is not the best one. But it is the one i prefer, like u i guess.
This is one of the best and one of my top 4 favorites, the others being Khmer, Kongo and Norway :)
@Ksjs Jdjdb I love music and instruments from every culture and people :)
sometime i was visiting Tomyris on purpose to play the music
So calming, like nostalgic even, but... powerful
I still it's the best soundtrack, reminds also about the nostalgic-myth concept of Battlestar Galactica's music by Bear McCreary. Amazing!
One of the best song of Civilization VI with spanish and england songs
My four favorites is this one, Norway (My homeland actually), Kongo and Khmer :)
One of the best
Miraç Özkurt It's not Turkic mate. It's iranic but your right it's the best.
And one of my top 4 favorites, the others being Khmer, Kongo and Norway :)
@Ksjs Jdjdb we wuz scythians and shiiet ever get tired of claiming other people's cultures
Scythians didn't even speak Persian. Sure by culture many things were Iranian, but those things were also gathered from various parts of Caucassus and Middle East anyway since Iran didn't come from the sky one day.
@@ereny9465 according UNESCO Scythian are Iranic 😎
according university of Cambridge Scythian speak eastern Iranian language .
THE BEST theme in this game
Tomyris: you dare stab me in the back with war! (trains 378946317264981 saka horse archers)
Me: im sorry it was a misclick:
Tomyris: DIEEEEEEE
By far my favorite theme in civ6. It's incredible.
The Atomic theme just felt so epic during my last game as it was playing as I was bombing and nuking the last of my enemies. It had a "This is the end! Doom is upon you!" feel to it.
lovely music, fitting for our lovely crazy horse lady 👸🐴 🐴
I would love to live in the steppe. Sitting up on a hill overlooking the vast grassland and playing my viola
Until you get Herod's Curse or the Buboes
Thats not viola...
There are also other nice nomadic instruments similar to the one you refer to as viola
You mean a horse fiddle?
The old scythians used to collect the scalps of their enemies and flay their skins to drape over their horses.
I am also wondering what is the original tune.
Lunarsong Sirohane Is it on the wiki? I wonder if an open letter to the sound team would do the trick for a proper list...
If i remember this is an original composition that from listening to it i think its based off of ossetian folk music
CIV OP
its the best music here in this game i think
Damn Turks and Persians claiming the Scythians as theirs, reminds me of how Slavic Macedonians say Megas Alexandros was a Slav
Scythians are the ancestors of the ossetians
They are Indo-European iranic
Scythian are Indo-Iranians
The Slavs do not appear until the 5th century after Christ.
Persian is a language on the same branch of the Indo-European language family as Scythian so there is actually a relation. With Turkic not so much, apart from the fact that both were cultures of nomadic peoples from the steppe.
Scythians were from the Indo-Iranian branch of the Indo-Europeans they were not Turks, Turkic people are not Indo-European
The people of Anatolia were Iranians and the people of Istanbul were Greeks. The Mongols or the Mongols turk conquered the lands of the Scythians and Anatolians, and killed most of the people of Anatolia and forcibly Turkishized the language of their survivors
@Мастурбек Кумысович That’s true
@Мастурбек Кумысович the real turk have mongol DNA and mongol face
and if you don't have that then you are Persian from Achaemenid empire like people of iran Tajikistan Afghanistan and.....
@Мастурбек Кумысович Caucasus is a part of Iran(persia) that Russia separated from Iran during World War II. Caucasus is an Iranian word meaning mountain.
@Мастурбек Кумысович From 2,600 years ago until World War II, the Caucasus was part of persia(Iran) just search Persian empire
AM I crazy? at 3:05 it makes me remember of game of thrones music
Yeah many tunes from this is very similar to the tunes of the Stark Theme (and of Danaerys')from GoT
More like Got got inspired by ancient genres of music...
I mean...the Sand Snakes and such were basically portrayed to live in a region similar to this group so not a shock.
@@jeffk7293 no not them but dothraki is closet than snakes. Tomyris never was Persian she was saka scythian , they were nomads and looked in mix of caucasian and asian they moved to modern Armenia,Ossetia lands that's why duduk was involved in music of theme. Dothraki are nomads and look like Mongolians in books and behave. For eurasian nomads it's our culture that revolves around archery,horses and steppe.
Imagine trying to enjoy some amazing music but the internet wants to quibble over some dead horse raiders’ race 😑
Why, that sounds like the 21st century when people totally had nothing else to worry about ;)
The Scyths wer Japanese confirmed.
tomyris is waifu
what the hell is that
milf
I was stunned to find out that Iran had a female ruler. One who had actual power and was a warrior. Looking at Iran now, the thought would never pass people's heads.
She is not Persian nor Iranian but pre Islamic Persian and also pre Islamic Arab history are full with queens. Its funny how they made dispropoganda about the Persians in the movie 300, ironically Ancient Greeks are one of the most misogynistic people the world had ever seen.
scythian didnt live in whole iran, just the khorasan part, and turkmenistan afghanistan etc etc.
some migrated to iran. but they werent purely iranians or persians they weere basically ukranian caucassian khazak uzbekistani tukmenistani steppes people. and i am a jatt, and i found out that we were scythians who migrated to punjab in pakistan and india. im so glad my ancestors were scythians
@@ਗੁਰਸਿਮਰਸਿੰਘ That's awesome info
They were nomadic never truly settled anywhere permanently they had even traveled to parts of Europe but they can most be traced back to the middle east were Iran and many other countries were later founded so saying they are strictly one culture or another is wrong
She never ruled Iran. Cyrus the Great ruled the Iran when Tomyris was alive. But still, there have been three female rulers in Iran, all of them predating the islamisation of Iran. One being a Roman slave girl who ruled Parthia with her son, and the other two being noble sisters during the midst of chaos in the fall of the Sassanid Empire.
love my Iranic Pashtun people (SAKAS) also known as Afghans
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As a pashtun descendant of Scythians i feel like I'm back in those days riding horses 🐴 and shooting arrows 😊
Good days. Are you from Pakistan, I’m hindko speaker from abbotabad.
@@eonthinker100yrago8 yes from Pakistan bro but as a hindko speaker you are not a descendant of Scythians
@@FarooqKhanx-mk5jv I’m from abbasi family though and we have 30 percent R1a haplogroup concentration which is associated with the Iranic nomadic people who migrated to the region. A lot of Pashtuns have 20-45% R1a aswell. You be the judge
@@eonthinker100yrago8 yeah as I said being Arian doesn't mean you are a Scythian there were a lot of other Aryan people and Scythians are a part of the Aryan family so u are probably not a Scythian.
@@eonthinker100yrago8 Punjabis are better warriors than pashtuns
11:35 when our last archer defending our one and only capital
I will make a new culture combining this culture, the Mexican, the Brazilian, Japanese and the Buddhist aesthetic. Also a language and architecture.
Hopefully I can do it and create a new ethnic group starting with my family: wife and children.
Better homes and succulents There isn't such a thing as a Mexican culture.
"I will create a new colour, combining green, magenta, yellow, grey, red, with a bold dash of turquoise!
...Whoops, turned out to be dull brown."
@@Humanophage Except cultures do not work like colours do. Mexican culture is a mishmash and it is beautiful
@@Humanophage Such a lack of imagination.
@Emile Des Champs Of course i do, i live in Mexico, and as such i see how they have a lot of things but culture and identity. A people have their own language, because through it actual tradition and culture is transmitted, and appart from natives, they don't have one, only post colonial residues, and no, the only thing it works for is to become consumerist slaves. Whatever patriotism there is has no fundamental basis, but i guess that a brat of your words cannot get that inside the head.
All of the americas, but paraguay (since they keep alive and by the majority the guarani language), are a pure and weak excuse to promote flow of capital in places where cultures have been pulverized and left to starve.
It's the Eastern brotherhood, one of the Eastern Iranians greatest empire! Pamir Ossetian and Pashtun unity!
@Arda Gezik The fact that you stated that wikipedia was an unreliable source and used the *armenian genocide*, a historical event which was documented and recognized to have caused *1.5 million of deaths* as being a fallacy doesn't help your argument, especially when you use a Wikipedia article *yourself*.
@Arda Gezik The existence of the Ossetians kind of crushes your entire "Scythians are Turkic" theory.
Ksjs Jdjdb nah u can’t accept the fact that they were indo aryan people. Give me Some sources instead of a “dude trust me”. Wait... u have none. Oh well.
Ksjs Jdjdb all of these have no actual sources. For all I can know u got these from Some random turkish site. Actual historians say that scythians were aryan people. Hell I got this teached in high school in The Netherlands. Cry more turk boy.
Ksjs Jdjdb u didn’t post links to the sources. Cry more.
The fiercest woman in history.
Butika has claim in that too
Can anyone say is it copyrighted or not? I'm planning to use it in history videos for TH-cam on Kazakh history. Our music is similar to it as we're too descendants of Scythians.
no, you are not. Only Ossetians and probably any Tajik tribes
5 star music
Does anyone know the song this is based on?
Given that the Persians and Scythians were cousins of one another we can only GUESS.
See the piping on her clothes? those were in rage in Iran for many centuries. And in some remote parts of that country they still are.
It was common Scythian dress as well, as far as we can tell.
If i remember this is an original composition that from listening to it i think its based off of ossetian folk music
BBBJOT mate, actually I couldn't find the original song but maybe I can help you about where should you look for it. Scythian (İskit in Turkish) Empire is one of the first empires founded by Turks and Scythians have got Turkic language and Turkic culture, so I can tell this song can be based on other ancient Turkish and Mongolian war songs. Also Scythians are ancestry of Yakutian Turks (Sakhas/Сахалар/Sakalar), the song could be one of their folk song. As a Turk, this song doesn't seem similar to me at all, but the instruments are same with instruments which have used in other ancient Turkish war musics.
Mei Lin Chan I don't think so, also Darius don't agree with you too. According to Persian historical sources, Scythians have Turkic origins that coming from Central Asia. Darius refuses to describe Scythians as Persian people.
Great Jat masssgetae queen Tomyris.
Scythians didn’t look Turkic like that at all. They were Indo Europeans. They had blond, red and brown hair, blue eyes and of Caucasian/Europid features. They were virtually indistinguishable from their surrounding IE neighbors such as the ancient Hellenes, Tocharians, Hittites and Corded Ware peoples due to them being of the same Caucasian stock.
Mullerornis Turkic peoples have swarthy skin with darker features, ie Turkmen, Turks, Azeris, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Mongols, etc. And yes they were nomadic but had distinct Caucasian features that were consistent which I mentioned in my first comment. This was due to them descending from Corded Ware and the Yamnaya/Eastern Hunter Gatherers expanding in all directions but from the same place (Pontic Caspian Steppe) hence they had consistent phenotypes.
Tomiris Han Turk.
Scythians Turk.
@Ksjs Jdjdb But their language, personal names, material culture, burial customs and religion were Iranic. Genetically, the ancient Scythians were quite similar to modern day ethnic Russians and Ukrainians. With the Scythians frequently being red or blond haired, blue eyed and predominately of West Eurasian ancestry, with the majority of their heritage coming from the Pontic Steppe (modern day Ukraine).
The Afanasievo culture was Indo-European, infact the Afanasievo culture weas genetically identical to the Yamnaya culture. The Kurgan, or Yamnaya culture, isn't Turanid, it is the homeland of the Proto-Indo-European people.
You're literally claiming that the Proto-Indo-Europeans and the Sumerians were both Turks. 3 separate language families with their associated people's having observable genetic differences. You're a fucking moron.
"A June 2015 genetic study published in Nature included an analysis of four females from the Afanasievo culture. Two individuals carried haplogroup J2a2a, one carried T2c1a2, and one carried U5a1a1.[1][12] The authors of the study found that the Afanasievo were "genetically indistinguishable" from the Yamnaya culture.[1] The results indicated that the expansion of the ancestors of the Afanasievo people into the Altai was carried out through "large-scale migrations and population displacements",[1] without admixture with local populations.[13][1] The Afanasievo people were also found to be closely related to the Poltavka culture.[13] According to the authors of the study, the study underpinned the theory that the Afansievo people were Indo-Europeans, perhaps ancestors of the Tocharians.[1]
In a genetic study published in Science in 2018, the remains of 24 individuals ascribed to the Afanasievo culture were analyzed. Of the 14 samples of Y-DNA extracted, 10 belonged to R1b1a1a2a2, 3 belonged to Q1a2, and 1 belonged to R1b1a1a2a. With respect to mtDNA, most samples belonged to subclades of U (particularly subclades of U5), although T, J, H and K was also detected. The authors of the study cited the results as evidence that the culture emerged as a result of a migration from the Pontic-Caspian steppe.[14]:"
Proto-Turks had haplogroup C1.
The Slavic peoples, the Scythians and the Afanasievo culture (which existed from 3300 BCE, not 7000 BCE) had haplogroup R1b and R1a with minorities of Q1 and I2a.
The Sumerians were mostly haplogroup G2, E1b, J1 and J2 with minorities of R1b. The Sumerians are genetically like Arabs.
The Afanasievo culture is an offshoot of the Corded-Ware (which is centered in Germany and Poland) and the Sintashta culture. The Corded Ware culture and the Sintashta culture are both offshoots of the Yamnaya culture.
Thinking that people in those times could have homogeneous distribution of genetics. Oh lord, save the world from retardation. :/
@@AgarthaFan In fact, Azeris are genetically closer to the Iranian peoples of the South Caucasus than to the Turkic.
I've wondered if these were the people that inspired the horse stable folks in Breath of the Wild.
My nation came from scythia. I miss the steppe I have memories of my ancestors of it.
I know this sounds crazy but i dont care
It does not sound crazy at all. My people also descended from scythia.
Also mine a Pashtun
Long live our Schythian nation
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The Scythians are known as Skytai in Greek records, Ishkuza in Assyrian sources and Sakas in Persian sources. It is thought that the origins of the Scythians are based on the Sumerians, and they are one of the Pre-Turkic societies that migrated to the west after the Sumerians disappeared from the scene of history.
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Scythian are Indo-Iranians
@@xshandy5812 nope,according to the linguistics sycthians were using pro Turkic language and they are probably ancestors of Kazakhs
@@aycabaharguner1546 the unic text in Scythian discover proves ! scythian is iranic and closer of ossetian
reminds me of daenerys and her khalasaar
Only difference is Tomirys was a competent leader....
@@undead9999 and dany was not? she technically never lost a battle and won the game of thrones at the end.
@@VV-nz4dv Bruteforcing her way to power isn't proof of strategic prowess, any idiot with a strong army can do that. She won the throne, yes, but she would have ruled over what? Ashes and despair? She basically obliterated King's Landing, and put herself into the minds and souls of every single person in Westeros as a crazy foreign invader at the head of an army of savages. Hadn't Jon Snow killed her, she would have most likely faced endless guerrilla warfare, and eventually be killed anyway. That is not what a true leader does, both to obtain and keep power. (the problem with that ending is that, despite being somewhat foreshadowed, it litterally came too hard and too fast to be really enjoyable, I do not see Dany going nuts as "completely out of character", she is, after all, the Mad King's progeny, the problem is that the whole arc is rushed in two three episodes).
Also, the way she handled the cities on slavers' bay is stupid, from a military strategy point of view.
Any military strategist worth his salt will tell you that overthrowing a regime without putting a different system in place and pacifying the region is basically asking for a guerrilla to start wreaking havoc, that is precisely what happened with the Sons of the Harpies). She overestimated the gratitude of the freed slaves, and never considered that slaves, once freed, would not have had anything to fall back to. In shackles they were deprived of freedom, but they were fed, clothed, and somewhat "protected" because of their status as valued proprety. After that it was a free-for-all, every man for himself, and that is why many slaves ended up alongside their former masters in the Harpies. The reasoning being "if I indeed need to be ruled, let it be someone of my culture", which is an understandable reaction, in that scenario.
Tomirys, according to the scant records we have about her, united the steppe tribes, which have been squabbling amongst themselves for generations at that point, into a cohese and solid army to field against the King of Kings, and won, ruling to her last day over the steppe she contributed to keep free of Persian influence, and keeping Darius's skull as a drinking cup.
@@VV-nz4dv won her dragon not she
@@VV-nz4dv she had no brain
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Where is Cyrus the Great's body buried? In the belly of Tomyris.
Tomyris in not in Tuva, but Kazakhstan or Mongolia.
Ossetic
my music
Tomyris looks like she's having a stroke
WRong skin color
too brown, too white?
It isn't wrong.
Too brown
@@skylas-satrapofthescythian1988 yes she was supposed to be lighter skinned because she is scythian
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Scythians are all ancient turanian tribes.
They were Iranic not Turkic.
@Ksjs Jdjdb Not according to history, and wikipedia.
Ksjs Jdjdb u have no sources to back up your claim. Cope more turkboy.
@Ksjs Jdjdb But their language, personal names, material culture, burial customs and religion were Iranic. Genetically, the ancient Scythians were quite similar to modern day ethnic Russians and Ukrainians. With the Scythians frequently being red or blond haired, blue eyed and predominately of West Eurasian ancestry, with the majority of their heritage coming from the Pontic Steppe (modern day Ukraine).
The Afanasievo culture was Indo-European, infact the Afanasievo culture weas genetically identical to the Yamnaya culture. The Kurgan, or Yamnaya culture, isn't Turanid, it is the homeland of the Proto-Indo-European people.
You're literally claiming that the Proto-Indo-Europeans and the Sumerians were both Turks. 3 separate language families with their associated people's having observable genetic differences. You're a fucking moron.
"A June 2015 genetic study published in Nature included an analysis of four females from the Afanasievo culture. Two individuals carried haplogroup J2a2a, one carried T2c1a2, and one carried U5a1a1.[1][12] The authors of the study found that the Afanasievo were "genetically indistinguishable" from the Yamnaya culture.[1] The results indicated that the expansion of the ancestors of the Afanasievo people into the Altai was carried out through "large-scale migrations and population displacements",[1] without admixture with local populations.[13][1] The Afanasievo people were also found to be closely related to the Poltavka culture.[13] According to the authors of the study, the study underpinned the theory that the Afansievo people were Indo-Europeans, perhaps ancestors of the Tocharians.[1]
In a genetic study published in Science in 2018, the remains of 24 individuals ascribed to the Afanasievo culture were analyzed. Of the 14 samples of Y-DNA extracted, 10 belonged to R1b1a1a2a2, 3 belonged to Q1a2, and 1 belonged to R1b1a1a2a. With respect to mtDNA, most samples belonged to subclades of U (particularly subclades of U5), although T, J, H and K was also detected. The authors of the study cited the results as evidence that the culture emerged as a result of a migration from the Pontic-Caspian steppe.[14]:"
Proto-Turks had haplogroup C1.
The Slavic peoples, the Scythians and the Afanasievo culture (which existed from 3300 BCE, not 7000 BCE) had haplogroup R1b and R1a with minorities of Q1 and I2a.
The Sumerians were mostly haplogroup G2, E1b, J1 and J2 with minorities of R1b. The Sumerians are genetically like Arabs.
The Afanasievo culture is an offshoot of the Corded-Ware (which is centered in Germany and Poland) and the Sintashta culture. The Corded Ware culture and the Sintashta culture are both offshoots of the Yamnaya culture.
Ksjs Jdjdb Your “proof” claims that the Sumerians where Turks. Your proof is wrong.
I showed you proof that the Scythians are genetically European.
The scythians were white aryans
Blonde, blue-eyed, fair skinned people. Take a look at the Kalash people from the Chitral Valley of Pakistan. It's so south and east from central asia yet the people remain to look russian. Now if you look at the history and go north and west, then the people living there must have been even more russian looking.
Scythians spoke a northeast Iranic language. They ruled the lands from modern day Romania to the Tarim Basin. From them descended the Khotanese people, the Massagetae, the Dahae, and the Indo-Scythians.
Tomris is the ancestor of the Turks
According Brittanica and University of Cambridge and UNESCO Scythian are Iranic 😶
Maybe just Ossetian part of Turkish population? By the way, in the game Tomiris speaks Ossetian.
Tomrys Was Iranian
@@Dersimite no doubt! Ancient Iranian 👍
Türkish Queen
The people of Anatolia were Iranians and the people of Istanbul were Greeks. The Mongols or the Mongols turk conquered the lands of the Scythians and Anatolians, and killed most of the people of Anatolia and forcibly Turkishized the language of their survivors
@@Iran.cyrusi It is also mentioned in this book that the Scythians are Turkish, even Iranian sources say it "شاهنامه" "فردوسی" I Told The Author And The Book
@@Iran.cyrusi they are Turks! You are Persian and by it you say that. Saks or Scythians never aren't a Persian. I'm Kazakh but remember our own history. our history was cunningly rewritten in the USSR under the leadership of Stalin. You have no proof that the Saki were Iranian. They were Türks! The Iranians have always been much farther south. On the territory of Kazakhstan where Tomiris lived, excavations were carried out where the things of the Saks were found and they have nothing to do with the Persians, all the bowls and decorations were engraved in the Turkic language! The Saki had no blood or cultural relations with the Persians. Not for that my ancestors fought against the vile Cyrus so that his descendants of the snake would say so about my ancestors
My friend, not only Turkish. She is queen for all Turkic nations. Greetings from Kazakhstan!
@Мастурбек Кумысович Томирис была предком не только для Таджиков и Узбеков, а для всех Тюркским народов
Turkic Khatun
she's iranic
@@Eagle57-n6e no
@@Eagle57-n6e no
@@bilgekagan6678 cry femboy
@Everest Mallory Yes you're right but using "*" only breeds enmity so let's let them stay in their misery.
Turks
You wish
@Thomas Kilogram prove it
@Thomas Kilogram there are hundreds of them , just copy an paste it here, also i am not jealous lol why would i? you are just wrong
Yes she is Turkish
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