But that’s more expensive and won’t look as good as a spanking new train. Funny thing is the formula to successfull high speed rail is already known but let’s keep putting half effort into American “high speed” rail.
@@Michaelpai1230 its mainly because there isn't anyway to put it due to many owned private land, and a dedicated rail line is perfect, less stoping for freight and higher speeds and the US is rich it's a matter of funding
@@soundseeker63 you shouldn't be worrying about the speed the train can reach but the railing, the train can reach a maximum speed of 220 mph, faster than most trains in europe, if the railing were to be adjusted
At least it's unique. Over here in portugal, we have some canadian locomotives (MLW and Bombardier) which sound close to an american locomotive horn. Do we care? NO
Excellent, Excellent, EXCELLENT video! I particularly like that the engineer will acknowledge a railfan video recording and toot the horn at them, that's cool and those engineers are the best.
Great video... The jury is still out on the train, the horn sounds like a old French taxi cab from the 50s. They need to go back to something more traditional especially at grade crossings.
hopefully the new train sets will build on the success of the ACELA product and give AMTRAK a much needed boost...looking forward to riding on these new train cars soon
I live in Europe and regularly use high speed trains and one thing strikes me straight away, where's the security fencing. You can't have wild life and people walking across the track as these trains can be so fast you can't judge how quickly they would be coming. Seems immensely irresponsible!
I agree but the problem is that our American rail infrastructure was never built for high speed trains. Hence why there's no fencing or that much corner tilting at all on the NEC. Building fences along the whole NEC would cost another few million and tearing up all the corners to replace them with tilts would not only cause massive delays, (this is because many parts of the journey are two tracks only) but would also cost millions to billions more.
Chicken and egg scenario: Cant have fast trains because of the track Dont need fast track because we dont have the trains... Well. now they got the train. Track improvement will be billions but can happen piecemeal.
Tel un fauve en pleine nature, ce train a besoin d'une ligne à grande vitesse pour être exploité à tout son potentiel ! On attend aussi en France les futurs Avelia, ce film permet d'avoir une bonne image de ces nouveaux trains à grande vitesse. Ils ne rouleront pas plus vite que les actuels TGV, mais ils seront plus modulables et moins coûteux pour la SNCF. Beau film !
Now all we need is for our towns and cities to look just as clean and modern and high-tech as these new trains, and a beauty such as this won't stick out as much of a white elephant anymore. Can't wait to see the new Acela in service pretty soon! :D
I don't have a problem with the horn; in fact, the horn change signals a CHANGE from the Acela. (And I've heard worse - and from AMTRAK, no less; the Budd Metroliners and the Turboliners - both in 1979.)
There isn't much fencing. A train line of this standard in Europe would be fenced. There are buildings, people, etc. surprisingly close to these tracks.
Actually many high speed lines in Germany aren't fenced. You can walk wall the way onto the tracks. You could enter tunnels if you'd be that mad. A train even crashed into a flock of sheep :)
I wish I could have the old acela trains and more electric routes so I can operate fast services and create the Canadian north east corridor from Windsor to Quebec city
The dual tone horn is proven easier to hear which is why its used on police cars, fire engines, etc in Europe, but the American style train horn is iconic
In Europe we don’t need a horn (almost never used) and all crossings (high-speed lines) are elevated and yes all lines have fences or small water ways as fence, and speeds up to 320 km/h
This line should have all railway crossings eliminated; the train should pass over or under the crossing so that the train never needs to slow down. This change to the line would be expensive but worth it the long run for spend and saving lives.
@Lazys The Dank Engineer And all nine are in CT or north - two are in New London at the station itself. (The two @ New London are obvious/obvious/obvious; you can se them!)
1. All the comments about the horn... The train shouldn't be using the horn at all! Because the tracks ought to be grade separated all the way. ;) 2. Looks way better when using the tilting than I thought it would. I thought it would look weird that the cars tilt while the engines don't, but it don't. 3. Even the original Acela trains are capable of so much better speeds than most of the tracks allow. New trains are good, upgrading the tracks is better. Higher cost for less flashy results, I guess - so less political will to do it. But we all know the real improvement to speeds will come from tracks being grade separated, straightened, & modernized - and the signalling system being updated to ERTMS. 4. Dat Journal Square tower! Manhattan rules all skylines, but Jersey City on its own is steadily building up a skyline that outshines so many cities.
It reminds me of the Frecciarossa train I took from Milan to Rome. That train hit 200 mph, and the trip took just 3 hours. It was almost as fast as a regional jet.
@@austinandthatgreen2310 Alstom (and Bombardier) have been building trainsets in the US for *how long*? (It was Bombardier that built the Acela Express.) Siemens *also* builds trainsets in the US; lest we forget, the ACS-64 and Charger are built by Siemens. Unlike Alstom, both Bombardier and Siemens are known for things OTHER than ground transportation in the United States (Bombardier for aircraft, and Siemens for intelligent buildings; it is why Bombardier sold their US ground transportation division to Alstom in the first place).
Apart from two sections of the track, the train travels about same speed as regional one, less stops but only saving half an hour, paying twice the cost and better caliber of passengers.
It needs to run faster like close to 175 to 200 MPH. If Japan Rail were to run the Northeast corridor, the trains would be running at 200 MOH, and the line would be electric all he way to Norfolk, VA, Newport News, VA & Charlotte, NC and there would be a lot more high speed trains running and high speed lines being built.
lmaooooo the train is only doing 90, so it's not that hard to get ahead of it, especially when it has to slow down for curves and other speed restrictions.
@Gold Gamer The train comes from the pendolino family of high speed trains which their whole thing is the tilting mechanism. The Avelia Liberty comes from a good lineage. It's whether or not American infrastructure can properly handle true high speed trains.
When you compare 3:12 to 3:34 it's hilarious. That old hybrid K5LA is such a monster thundering by on those sleek Acela power cars, especially next to the Avelia's thomas horn and dumpy looks. What a shame
Amtrak Productions Nah dude it looks dumb. It’s that middle section of the power cars that I can’t get behind. The grey painted lower nose is fine, but then they slapped that misshapen cab and body onto it and didnt even line it up with the passenger cars. The cab and headlight looks like this: www.iconspng.com/images/standing-long-head-minion.jpg
The power cars do not seem to fit the carriages.The power cars are rectangular and the carriages slightly curved,: are they taken away from another system (Eurostar) and repainted ?
Oh jeez, The foamers are going to cancel me over this... Ngl, I really like the new horn. It's a new voice that's distinct to amtrak in the north american continent if they keep it around. The K5LA is loosing its distinctiveness as it's popping up all over the place, even on more freight trains as the as the gold standard, and think it's getting stale.
As a Brit., I'm not quite attuned to the radio garble of an NY accent. What happened at 5:17 onwards? Was it a planned emergency stop, i.e. testing, or something else?
This guy really stopped at the side of the New Jersey Turnpike just to record an out of service Amtrak train...
That's some determination right there.
how did he even know where to find it?
And depending on the time of day, the NJ Turnpike can be SUPER busy. So the fact that he risking traffic too earned him a subscription from me
@@FalconsEye58094 my guess is:
first he's a railfans and do a research
Two he work in Amtrak
Google maps is super helpful
@@emperorpalpatine2531 Yes especially in that area lol
This train needs a dedicated elevated high speed track. All the way from Boston to DC.
It could happen but you know NIMBYs
But that’s more expensive and won’t look as good as a spanking new train. Funny thing is the formula to successfull high speed rail is already known but let’s keep putting half effort into American “high speed” rail.
Up and down the east coast
@@Michaelpai1230 its mainly because there isn't anyway to put it due to many owned private land, and a dedicated rail line is perfect, less stoping for freight and higher speeds and the US is rich it's a matter of funding
If this is how Yankees get around, it explains a lot. A whole lot!
3:31 the difference between the two horns is outstanding (and there's a clear winner)
@Nicholas Ryan agreed
I've never seen that thing go faster than 30 mph.
There’s a video of it going about 90 at croydon and other stations
jack can you comment the link ?
@@jackpez Considering they claim it will run at 160mph in service thats still not very impressive..
@@soundseeker63 there is a video of it going 140 mph
@@soundseeker63 you shouldn't be worrying about the speed the train can reach but the railing, the train can reach a maximum speed of 220 mph, faster than most trains in europe, if the railing were to be adjusted
Train looks fine. That horn sounds like a rooster being strangled
As funny as this comment is it's also untrue.
3:12 hearing a dual tone horn on an American train is the weirdest thing on earth.
At least it's unique.
Over here in portugal, we have some canadian locomotives (MLW and Bombardier) which sound close to an american locomotive horn.
Do we care?
NO
I can’t stand it! They need to put an American horn on that thing now!
thats funny coming from an american, trains here at my county has a dual tone horn, and it came from america, you guys are such jokers.
@@amtrak_121 then cry
Literally most of the trains on the NEC are European
Some of these comments give me a headache. Awesome documentary of the testing the past few days!
Amazing footage of the Avelia!
The legend of minecraft trains has come
FOXE!
Unpopular opinion: the dual horn sounds nice
Excellent, Excellent, EXCELLENT video! I particularly like that the engineer will acknowledge a railfan video recording and toot the horn at them, that's cool and those engineers are the best.
Finally a horn that won’t make residents go crazy
Great video... The jury is still out on the train, the horn sounds like a old French taxi cab from the 50s. They need to go back to something more traditional especially at grade crossings.
Like the train and the look. Only thing I dislike is the fact the power car body isn't shaped like the cars. It just looks odd.
Th power in German ICE trains are in som of the boogies so no locks ICE = intercity express👍😉🇳🇱🇪🇺👋
hopefully the new train sets will build on the success of the ACELA product and give AMTRAK a much needed boost...looking forward to riding on these new train cars soon
I live in Europe and regularly use high speed trains and one thing strikes me straight away, where's the security fencing. You can't have wild life and people walking across the track as these trains can be so fast you can't judge how quickly they would be coming. Seems immensely irresponsible!
I agree but the problem is that our American rail infrastructure was never built for high speed trains. Hence why there's no fencing or that much corner tilting at all on the NEC. Building fences along the whole NEC would cost another few million and tearing up all the corners to replace them with tilts would not only cause massive delays, (this is because many parts of the journey are two tracks only) but would also cost millions to billions more.
Chicken and egg scenario:
Cant have fast trains because of the track
Dont need fast track because we dont have the trains...
Well. now they got the train. Track improvement will be billions but can happen piecemeal.
@@AstroGoalHorns Well, if everyone paid their fair share of taxes and we quit giving enormous tax breaks to Wall Street we would have the money.
Its the American way LOL.... Commuter & HS Rail just isn't in the American DNA.... Its all so backwards here.
You can't just build a giant fence
Nice compilations! The engine sounds exactly like the ones on the TGV Euroduplex/Dasye generation
It probably is the same engine or a similar one, the trains were built by the same company
That horn sucks big time!!!
@@kevinmcdowell7540 no
I think it's a rather pretty train.
It looks fantastic but definitely needs a K5 LA
Tel un fauve en pleine nature, ce train a besoin d'une ligne à grande vitesse pour être exploité à tout son potentiel ! On attend aussi en France les futurs Avelia, ce film permet d'avoir une bonne image de ces nouveaux trains à grande vitesse. Ils ne rouleront pas plus vite que les actuels TGV, mais ils seront plus modulables et moins coûteux pour la SNCF. Beau film !
Great video. The New Haven platform detail shots are amazing!
bro your camera work is impeccable o my gosh
At the start I legitimately thought that was a drone shot! Awesome work!
0:55 *THAT TRACK CONDITION THO*
Now all we need is for our towns and cities to look just as clean and modern and high-tech as these new trains, and a beauty such as this won't stick out as much of a white elephant anymore. Can't wait to see the new Acela in service pretty soon! :D
We're going to see Britain's first tilting train but this is Avelia Liberty doing the same concept.
American should take a full advantage of train travel instead of Road and Air... The experience is amazing!
Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with the horn?
Yes
Actually it’s a good thing, just think about ppl living next to grade crossings...
I like the horn.
I don't have a problem with it either,i don't geilt it why lot of people are asking for a freight train horn on a passenger train.
I don't have a problem with the horn; in fact, the horn change signals a CHANGE from the Acela. (And I've heard worse - and from AMTRAK, no less; the Budd Metroliners and the Turboliners - both in 1979.)
Yeah that horn needs to go... Great video!
There isn't much fencing. A train line of this standard in Europe would be fenced. There are buildings, people, etc. surprisingly close to these tracks.
There definitely is fencing. They wouldn’t leave it open for people to get run over.
They need culling.
Actually many high speed lines in Germany aren't fenced. You can walk wall the way onto the tracks. You could enter tunnels if you'd be that mad. A train even crashed into a flock of sheep :)
Well fuck Europe. And that comes from a Democrat. Pretentious fucks the lot of ya
That last shot from the turnpike was purrfect! :)
What a slow moving monstrosity, phew! Hats off to the designers for this treasure to the Americans. A marvel to behold 🙄
Our French technology is yours and I am very proud that Acela's American Clients like so much their high speed train. The Best To each of you!
🍀💐🍀💐🍀🌈🌠
I wish I could have the old acela trains and more electric routes so I can operate fast services and create the Canadian north east corridor from Windsor to Quebec city
REMEMBER THE TURBO TRAIN
they're talking to build one .... since the 1980's
Fantastic video, very nice catches!!!👍👌👍👌
Hopefully it gets a better sounding horn before going into revenue service
The dual tone horn is proven easier to hear which is why its used on police cars, fire engines, etc in Europe, but the American style train horn is iconic
I see a lot of folks in this comment section whining about how sucky the horn sounds. It's gonna sound the way it is, grow up and deal with it.
In Europe we don’t need a horn (almost never used) and all crossings (high-speed lines) are elevated and yes all lines have fences or small water ways as fence, and speeds up to 320 km/h
I love it high speed rail fast whoa cool
This line should have all railway crossings eliminated; the train should pass over or under the crossing so that the train never needs to slow down. This change to the line would be expensive but worth it the long run for spend and saving lives.
@Lazys The Dank Engineer And all nine are in CT or north - two are in New London at the station itself. (The two @ New London are obvious/obvious/obvious; you can se them!)
amazing footage. those grade crossings though...
I'm liking this paint better than the CG. Very classy feel. Beautiful train.
1. All the comments about the horn... The train shouldn't be using the horn at all! Because the tracks ought to be grade separated all the way. ;)
2. Looks way better when using the tilting than I thought it would. I thought it would look weird that the cars tilt while the engines don't, but it don't.
3. Even the original Acela trains are capable of so much better speeds than most of the tracks allow. New trains are good, upgrading the tracks is better. Higher cost for less flashy results, I guess - so less political will to do it. But we all know the real improvement to speeds will come from tracks being grade separated, straightened, & modernized - and the signalling system being updated to ERTMS.
4. Dat Journal Square tower! Manhattan rules all skylines, but Jersey City on its own is steadily building up a skyline that outshines so many cities.
Very nice video!
Beautifull capture ❤
It reminds me of the Frecciarossa train I took from Milan to Rome. That train hit 200 mph, and the trip took just 3 hours. It was almost as fast as a regional jet.
It won't be able to go faster than 160 in the US, but the kids are arguing about the horn.
such a beautiful trainset.
The Acela Express Should Be The High Speed Train Of America
the asians and the europeans: pathetic
@FangABXY FangABXY i think it's due to the fact that the US has had a history with using european trains in the US the acela btw was built by alstom
@@austinandthatgreen2310 Alstom (and Bombardier) have been building trainsets in the US for *how long*? (It was Bombardier that built the Acela Express.) Siemens *also* builds trainsets in the US; lest we forget, the ACS-64 and Charger are built by Siemens. Unlike Alstom, both Bombardier and Siemens are known for things OTHER than ground transportation in the United States (Bombardier for aircraft, and Siemens for intelligent buildings; it is why Bombardier sold their US ground transportation division to Alstom in the first place).
Dude you have a great camera, such sharp pictures
Trainset Horns sound like From BR Rail 125 Class Horns
and they look like BR Rail 125 Class Diesel and Coach trainsets only without the mandatory yellow front end
No they absolutely do not look like them and the horns aren't similar in my opinion
Looks nothing like, Sounds nothing like.
This one make the same sound of the TGV(french high speed train) i love the desine of this train
Apart from two sections of the track, the train travels about same speed as regional one, less stops but only saving half an hour, paying twice the cost and better caliber of passengers.
It needs to run faster like close to 175 to 200 MPH. If Japan Rail were to run the Northeast corridor, the trains would be running at 200 MOH, and the line would be electric all he way to Norfolk, VA, Newport News, VA & Charlotte, NC and there would be a lot more high speed trains running and high speed lines being built.
Great video !!
Excellent captures! Like! 👍
The fact that you can show up for a shoot before the train does really shows how slow our Rail system is.
lmaooooo the train is only doing 90, so it's not that hard to get ahead of it, especially when it has to slow down for curves and other speed restrictions.
Or it shows that he knows the schedule.
@Gold Gamer The train comes from the pendolino family of high speed trains which their whole thing is the tilting mechanism. The Avelia Liberty comes from a good lineage. It's whether or not American infrastructure can properly handle true high speed trains.
Well also the train isn't running full speed yet, it's still under lots of testing.
R179GuyPlayzRoblox // LEMON TRAIN BOI they are gonna be running the old acelas and the avelia liberties
When you compare 3:12 to 3:34 it's hilarious. That old hybrid K5LA is such a monster thundering by on those sleek Acela power cars, especially next to the Avelia's thomas horn and dumpy looks. What a shame
Nobody asked for your opinion. If you dont like it keep your opinion to yourself
The new avelia looks better, and the horn is kinda cool
Yeah it’s all fun and games until you see an avelia overlapping an Acela when they do top speed testing
birb richerd Nobody asked for yours either. Not sure you are aware, but this is a youtube comment section. That’s how it works.
Amtrak Productions Nah dude it looks dumb. It’s that middle section of the power cars that I can’t get behind. The grey painted lower nose is fine, but then they slapped that misshapen cab and body onto it and didnt even line it up with the passenger cars. The cab and headlight looks like this: www.iconspng.com/images/standing-long-head-minion.jpg
The old Acela horn sounds better then the new one (that’s my opinion)
The power cars are a bit unsightly. I wish they were designed more like the ones on the TGV Atlantique in France. However, the coaches are beautiful.
Thank you for the video! Great work.
American rich kids love traveling with this technology!!!!!!
Wait did u really stop on the turnpike bridge to get that first video, alil dangerous but thats dedication def some amazing footage
Whatchu talkin' 'bout? The tire pressure light came on and I pulled over to check it out ;)
Ima miss the Og accela the horn is so bueatiful 🥺🥺🥺
Great footage as always, Fan Railer!
3:15 hears Aveila: eh at least it is faster
3:24 hears Acela: f the aveila
Its a test lol the aveila is faster
@@MrSuperpiff4 yea Ik but I’d rather have the k5la hybrid and go 14 miles slower
So you'd rather have a better train horn then arrive at your destination at time? That's pretty dumb
Ugh I could listen to the hum of that Genesis all day long
amazing !!! thank you !!!!
Really awesome
i love the red color under
and nose is bigger then old Acela
same like in Europe
AWESOME!
May I suggest that anyone unused to high speed trains searches YT for anything Eurostar, or Eurostar on Medway Bridge, or Eurostar Boxley Tunnel.
Nice video man!
Not that I don’t care about the new Acela 3:34 bro that shave and hair at 150 mph was EPIK (I still like old Acela better)
11:10 love this shot 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
Nice vidd man, and a nice looking train👍🏽
Amtrak seems to be doing a lot of testing on these new trains. Do they plan on wearing them out before they're put into service? :/
That horn is vile!
Where were you filming from?
Railfaner 232 read the description
Finally picking up speed again!!
Facts
Beautiful train, the horn sounds a little wimpy
Random question. What's the point of having a high speed train if you cannot reach high speed almost nowhere along the route?
Super good
Super video!
3:12 the two tons horn ! Welcome in Marne-la-Vallée instead :D Otherwise this train is gorgeous
The new trainset looks so European compared to the OG Acela. Really neat seeing a TGV clone in America.
Someone explain to me why the coaches bulge out at the sides, with sloped, tilting walls?
The power cars do not seem to fit the carriages.The power cars are rectangular and the carriages slightly curved,: are they taken away from another system (Eurostar) and repainted ?
Splendid! Beautiful video! Thank you!
I photographed a video of ｢Japan Shonan Monorail(CABVIEW+4K+GPS)｣, too.🚋🚋💭
Finally!!!!
How fast is she going?
90
The train operators will get the feel of honking those tones which is 🔊 1 long deep 🔊 2 long high or one long deep one short high 🔉🔊. Or reverse
I bet after the first level cross accident and they put in K5LA horns.
Oh jeez, The foamers are going to cancel me over this...
Ngl, I really like the new horn.
It's a new voice that's distinct to amtrak in the north american continent if they keep it around.
The K5LA is loosing its distinctiveness as it's popping up all over the place, even on more freight trains as the as the gold standard, and think it's getting stale.
@@bouncypear_net Maybe to locals shouldn't have bought close to a rail track.
Hello everyone ,
I'm from Malaysia. Can I know which country this train is made of?
Thank you
Too bad the designers didn’t match the profile of the locomotives to that of the cars. Looks like a mismatched set!
It is an intentional design feature; it serves a functional purpose.
The new Siemens stuff looks way better than these.
@@FanRailer The passenger cars tilt, the power cars do not.
What was the penalty for at New Haven? Unnecessary cuteness?
“High speed” rail lines are not fenced?
They probably would do it if they owned the tracks most of amtrak lines run on private freight tracks
@@slumpdogyt except for the Northeast Corridor which is owned by Amtrak and where this video was filmed. The answer, as usual, is $$$
@@slumpdogyt Not these
Best video ever ! Finally a railfanner with a drone! Im kinda gettin used to the horn too 😀
I notice that the Horns on the new trains seem to use a European/French Style train horn.
Looks like Amtrak took the cheaper version.
As opposed to…?
And the first gen Acela express trainset visible
As a Brit., I'm not quite attuned to the radio garble of an NY accent. What happened at 5:17 onwards? Was it a planned emergency stop, i.e. testing, or something else?
Cab signal dropped on them; ATS, as you would call it, stopped the train.
What’s the difference betwn the (solo car) First class & the 7 Business Class Cars⁉️