It's silly that conventional forces have difficulty countering the little bird, it can just fly at high altitudes, out of reach, and lob rockets at enemy. If they keep expanding on aircrafts, they should add more AA options to balance it out.
when played correctly its so good really little birds are the best and balance since they have no armor and cannot take hits but still fun to play CAS hoping to see more bigger maps to let more CAS in squad in every faction but thats a different timeline for OWI great update
Barely anyone enjoys the MEA primaries, but everyone loves the M14. Hmmm.... The PMC faction gets ARs that have semi/full auto, but the US Army and USMC get semi/burst and worse irons on most versions of their ARs. Hmmm....
Not necessary until they add proper attack helicopters. The little one they added for PMC is unarmored, so if you spray it with a machine gun you disable it or kill the pilot
Re: PMCs and F-16s; Years ago I worked for a PMC in Afghanistan on a U.S. Government contract (we were basically manpower integrated into an existing U.S. gov't agency). We had access to everything that our military folks had over there. Artillery, rotary, and fixed wing. Once, we had CAS from a B1-B at 40K feet. I never heard or saw the plane, but I saw the side of a mountain come off, courtesy of a 2000lb bomb.
@P3RF3CTD3ATH Well the Wagner PMC has fought the Russian Army 1 time and failed. They had and they may still have Russian Air Support in certain conflicts. Or they just have their own jets
@@P3RF3CTD3ATH Just imagine it's Metal Gear Solid 4 where PMCs and corporations are as powerful as governments and standing militaries. War never changes
Huge gripe in the form of question: Why the hell does the rifleman get 530259326092623409 different kits, but the medic doesnt? GIVE MEDICS SOME COOL SHIT TOO!
@@benhmn Just in general. Why not have variety? What does it "break the mold" by introducing more varied medic kits? Does the medic get superpowers and turns into a CQB breacher role by getting an MP5, suddenly forgetting his role? What about giving him the wormpool/wyrmpool/dragonrider/whatever the fuck type of rifle? Will it reduce his role effectiveness? Or will he make him an op snipah if you give him an m14? Would it hurt that much to give more options to spice up the already boring (imo) selection of role kits we have now? And its not like im asking for a marksman to have a scoped m249 or an AR to have a MAWWS launcher, im simply wanting the basic bitch infantry units (SL/RM/MD/LAT/HAT/GL and co) to have a bit more variety.
@@benhmn medics typically have your average rifleman loadout with maybe some modifications like a change in barrel length. I've talked to many guys about this and there's some benefit in reducing your barrel to 13.5~ to reduce the interactions with the gun and the ground and stuff when patching people up, but other than that they're going to carry the same things as a rifleman, and team members are all carrying ifaks plus whatever else the medic needs. The medic carries as much as he can obviously, but he's expected to shoot just the same as everyone else when he can.
I kinda wish the M113 Mobile Spawn Vehicle would have been represented as an M113 Command Post variant to give it some visual distinction from a normal M113 APC version. Gameplay-wise it makes no difference one way or the other but I think it would have been a nice touch.
I have to disagree with you about Helis, they’re not op… they’re only as good as the pilot who flies them and let’s be real the average player is not zero or meatplow… I also see them get killed from AA and Tows/Atgms or even Btr’s etc. on almost every match I play. My record heli kill was around 1200-1600 with an LAV. I personally think the loach cas could use a little buff and pls bring back the huey gunship and if they bring manpads into the game, they also need to add flares.
Helis are only fun for the pilot. For everyone else they are just annoying. How many 100 killstreak videos do you think will pop up the upcoming months?
i absolutely agree bro, every youtuber in this game just be glazing the loach and of how 'good' and 'broken' the loach are, but when i got fired by them, i just told my whole squad to shoot back at it, and most of the time the heli either fucked off or the pilot got murked, it's just that most people just don't shoot back for some reason, maybe they thought the heli are bullet proof?🤷♂
@@SanxBile not many because 1. you need to be a good pilot and 2. this thing has only 7 rockets, the minigun does little to no damage on vehicles. 3. you can get sniped out or your engine
@@PotatoflakeJake yeah same. Entertaining guy with some good funny content. Slorgs is very critical of the game which is just fine (and I agree with lots of his opinions on it) but the cheap shot at moidawg with no provocation was kinda off-putting. Maybe he was having a bad day and was all cranky who knows
Okay, but you can basically 1-shot the loach with an IFV, and every vehicle with armor has fun shooting at helicopters. It's a cool idea for modern AA, but i think that is going to push pilots further out of their role.
Yeah, you can see a helicopter from a really long range and stingers have also a long range. Imagine in maps like Afghanistan, where there are no tall trees to hide on, pilots would not be able to fly. I think they should add a bit more AAA if they see a problem with helicopters being too op.
@@ankilo5519 need to balance realism and playability i agree, unless they make it so some sub-factions have AA some dont so you have to be strategic - you cant pick an armored faction and have AA on a map like Talil its one or the other.
Helis need to be able to be taken out by LAT, or pilots need to be able to get shot and damaged. Like not as easily as normal troops but like it's wild that I can't shoot the pilots it would also force someone to be in the copilot seat and a reason for it to exist
@@bennyx1281 yeahhh something like that, but about 30% of the terrain is good for hiding, so the 70% of the helicopter gameplay would be dodging missiles
Hard disagree on the Loach needing SAM's to counter it. I have yet to see it not get swatted out of the sky immediately. It is a very weak machine that's only good for harassing unarmed lone logis or grads. In general Helicopters in squad also get shot down a lot. Plus it's only available on Air Assault, which is otherwise by far the worst unit category in the game.
Did a bunch of time in the M1117 Armored Security Vehicle, .50 and a 40mm in th turret - very confidence inspiring, very mobile, add on armor package upgrades... However, very limited visibility. Super fun to drive, great overland, great HP to weight.
One thing I never see in these videos is information on their FOB structures. WPMC has standard tech structures and fortifications, but for weapon emplacements they get grenade launchers alongside the standard 50 cal M2. They have a bunker version and unprotected version.
So it looks the devs didn't do too much research into what kind of gear PMC's actually use. Because PMC's usually have better gear than the military does. Since they can buy whatever they want and aren't limited to what's approved by the military command structure.
I think they should've replaced the m14 with the mk14. The m14 is good, but I feel like it looks very out of place when compared to the after-market looks of their aks and m4s.
I think I knew why it's the M14. I thought it was a reference to the Mini 14 that security contractors literally can not get enough of, but I think it's more a reference to Randy Stugart who was famous for using it in Mogadishu. Black Hawk Down kinda made the M14 a sort of cultural icon (which is frankly more than it deserves, the M14 was kinda a crap weapon with poor quality control) and considering we seem to be dealing with a bunch of air soft enthusiasts, it would make a bit of sense they'd pick them up.
They most likely will. They reworked TOWs to make it easier to implement other types of missiles/rockets which probably means some form of MANPADS so that there is an actual counter to any kind of heavy CAS they add like an Apache or MI-28.
Honestly I expected the PMC to get Ford Technicals and not reskin Insurgent ones also a civilian Offroad Logi Truck also Weapons that is more to civilian market such as the SIG MPX, MCX, ACR and others
Honestly a few things do feel a bit like placeholders, for instance why the M60T? Did they get them from Turkey, because if they got them straight from Israel they would be Sabra Mk. 2s instead. Actually, why do they even have a tank at all? It kinda feels like they did some testing and realized they felt too weak without one?
@@jacaredosvudu1638 Doesn't the PLANMC exclusively use TDs? I thought something like that would be what the WPMCs would get, maybe not amphibious but a pair of lighter TDs instead of one tank, would fit the mobility aspect of the faction better.
@@jacaredosvudu1638 This is a Private Military Company a Company they are not part of a government entity. Therefore, it doesn't make sense why they have an MBT more over majority of their equipment should be originated from civilian markets, surplus military and behind doors contracts with defence companys
Imo I don't know about dedicated AA. Its a genie I want left in the bottle. Monkeys paws finger will curl and every helicopter will be decimated on every team in a way that ultimately would be more toxic than a rocket barrage. I get it, the AA is old... But it also exists already and people have already grown to be professionals at shooting air down with RPG's and TOW missiles..
Small correction on the Raven helicopter. It looks like a reskinned CH-146 that CAF has. But it's not, it flies very differently. It's very sluggish and acts more like a Russian Mi-8 than a CH-146. Worst helicopter in the game by far since it has the low carrying capacity of 800 supplies just like the CH-146, but without the maneuverability that should come as a tradeoff...
I was really hoping that the PMC weapons were going to be higher quality versions, less recoil, better ADS time, etc. It seems like the whole purpose of the PMC's is higher quality light infantry than the other factions. Their vehicle selection is less beefy than even Insurgents or Irregular Militia so the emphasis needs to be on superior infantry plays and better weapons than other factions would have made that more possible.
I remember how much this game indirectly increased by expectations for Battlefield 6 (which ended up as 2042). Cuz if Indie devs could do all of THIS...then imagine what DICE will do...
Lets not forget that Squad has been worked on for... maybe 10 years. I first heard of it in 2015. It's been quite a journey to get to where we are. Not only time and experience, but a lot of community feedback and testing went into it.
@@levoGAMES Imagine if EA made a game for as long, and supported it for as long as the Squad devs. Or if the Squad devs had access to the same amount of money and resources.
If they added Manpads it would be interesting to see how the british martlet and starstreak systems would work given they are both capable of being used against vehicles with Saclos guidance and warheads with some armour penetrating capability.
we want simulator truck mode, to be toggled if someone want only to work as a truck driver, and enjoying logistics as a simulator, like using a steering wheel, or mouse for steering
Has anyone else had an issue with the WPMCs M16s M150 ACOG Optic where it is really small and doesn’t zoom in 4x and acts more like 2x Scope, even though it literally says 4x?
@@JCeez-jh2uh there isn't much uniqeness in those irregular factions but having IED's and some cool weapons. Which you could get the same enjoyment from other major country factions because they wont be copy and pasted equipment especially for a country like france or japan. If the game is only fun for the community to have irregular vs main faction wise then its failing to do its part of having a fun game like PR was.
I like most of what they added, highlighted that one of the emotes they added is bugged, and even said it was irresponsible of them to keep pushing CAS without any proper form of surface to air missiles. I also called them out for making two rifles that look different (M4 Wormpool and Simon Offense) and said it was lazy to not give them different stats. If you don't like the game, don't play it. This is a pretty good update, it's a fun and unique faction, and the backcap change is great for the meta.
They should instead roll out an update that makes my PC actually beeing able to run this poorly optimised game instead of me having 40 fps as soon as there are a few bushes nearby.
The shorty M4 is shorter in barrel length and i feel its easier to hipfire in CQB. It just feels more manuverable and managable in comparison. Considering the changes from ICO, i think people are sleeping on this difference.
Definitely the best faction they've added since the IMF rework imo. So much variety for kits and vehicles (other than heavy armour) which means any round will be different and not just M4, AK, M4, M4, M4, AK etc...
Great vid, Moi! I really enjoy the WPMC as well. As far as the new "Between Rounds Data Interface" I have some ideas: I have an idea to improve the effectiveness/usefulness of map/faction voting. When the round is over there are no open coms. Coms change to only command coms between SLs, and squad coms between the individual squads from the previous game. There should be a button on that screen SLs can click to mute their squad coms, so they can communicate with command coms clearly (they did do the Squad Only button). Then they can relate info down the chain of command, so to speak. Only SLs can vote for maps and factions. They can, if they choose, communicate with their squad to get their vote, and they can deliberate over command coms with the other SLs to decide which map/faction is best for the round ahead. There are many benefits to this change: 1- Chatter and nonsense in ‘tween-rounds voting is eliminated, so actual planning can be done as faction/map voting is made. 2- The most experienced players (the Commander & SLs are making the final decisions instead of random clicking). 3- Time and proper deliberation is spent on the advantages and disadvantages of X,Y,Z maps/factions (in other words, the info button is being hit, and the map and factions are actually being studied). 4- During this deliberation, it is reasonable to assume that initial strategies will be discussed (“...hey, we need these guys cuz we should do this n that…”), thus giving the potential leaders of the next round at least a rough blueprint (if not a detailed one) of how to play the next round. Certainly the likelihood of taking advantage of the new cap timer and mass back-capping would be exponentially higher. Remember, the SL is from the previous round, and therefore has some rapport with their personnel. If you can lead them in a Squad battle, you can certainly lead them in a Squad voting round. The only danger I foresee in this system is a repetition of map/layer scenarios. This is easily fixed by simply offering different faction/map/layer types for voting every round. If the SL departs after the game, then the temp SL is assigned just like in-game, and this individual will have same said above mentioned powers of voting. Anyway, I think tis new data could be an excellent tool to increase teamplay IF it can be utilized properly, and I believe the simple above changes could dramatically aid in making that happen. I am curious what you think.
The Loach is very, very vulnerable to EVERY weapon. It has no armour and 2 shots from ANY small arms weapon will destroy the engine, which is ridiculous. Somehow, the utility helicopters can eat a 120mm tank round or an ATGM and keep flying, but the Loach gets engined from two 9mm rounds? The only reason the Loach can survive anywhere near the enemy is because most players don't know how weak it is so they won't shoot at it. Solution: All the utility helicopters need their health reduced by about 20-30% and the Loach should have about 50% of the health of a utility helicopter. That would be a decent balance. And yes, they will then need a proper AA system for when they introduce the medium CAS helicopters because they will have too much health and firepower otherwise.
The CAS isn't op. It takes like 2 shots from infantry and if any vehicle with a gun sees it you can hit it and it will go down easily. Unless it's a wise pilot shooting it's 7 rockets from like 500 meters away and not flying over the obj then it's easy to kill
Currently, the MSV and M1117 seem to be bugged. The MSV tends to do a kick flip when you restart the engine - I see it happen a lot to people, and then it happened to me. Very annoying, makes it nearly unusable (which it already was, since everyone is constantly chasing the MSV as soon as it comes out of main.) The M1117 seems to be bugged in two ways: 1) its armor does not protect well at all, you will nearly always get instantly shot out of it facing any other light vic. 2) the MK19 is constantly unable to reload. The way to fix it, in my experience, is to switch to the MK19, click reload, hop out, hop back in, and NOW the reload sound will start and you’ll get reloaded in a few seconds. Pain in the ass, makes both vehicles unusable tbh.
Hopefully we see those MANPADS soon. Also kinda sad we didn't get any naval unit for the PMC. On the topic of MANPADS though, what do you think they should do for CAS Helis for the other factions? As well, how should they handle ATGMs like Hellfires and Vikhrs. I think that they should just be omitted entirely in favor of rockets like the Hydra, S-8, S-13, Mighty Mouse, FS-70 (When Germany comes), SNEB (When France comes).
I know what you mean about those Little Birds being a problem. Had one plaguing my game. I got a lucky kill by hopping into a transport jeep's machine gun and taking out it's back rotor. It crash landed and I hunted it down with a rocket while under fire from it's remaining pilot's small arms fire. Honestly my favorite moment of the game so far after two days. Thanks for the informative video!
I don't think MANPADs are required. If they are implemented at all realistically they won't be that effective as time to fire will be too long. The biggest threat on the battlefield to helicopters are HMGs and auto cannons, which every faction has plenty of. And of course the ZSU 23-2 is in game.
with WPMC, the Turks dont get anything special going for them anymore, especially with the trade off for a more light inf style faction and no HAT kit. I hope OWI quickly do a rebalancing for all the factions next
I know my opinion is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things but I just wanted to put my constructive feedback out there and see if anyone else is like-minded. I am new-ish to squad (200 hours over 2 years) I played mostly before the big infantry update and new weapon handling and suppression system. I just find it really hard to want to come back to this game at times when my character can't wield a damn side arm and put an accurate shot 5 meters out cause I sprinted for 2 seconds. I completely understand their decision to slow the game down and make it less run around and gun, but to be honest, it seems too far on the other side of the spectrum. I am also disappointed to know the different variants of guns like m4 don't actually operate any differently depending on barrel size or grips etc. I'd really like to see some tweaks and changes to the way guns handle, again not saying I wanna be able to full auto spray someone 100 meters out after running for 2 minutes. But i'd really like if I didn't feel punished for sprinting for 2 seconds to cross a street only to enter a compound and have to stand still, crouch, steady aim, and after 3 seconds put a semi accurate shot 20 meters away while having my gun kick like a mule from a single shot. No hate to any devs, just my two cents not sure where many others stand on this as I'm not usually too involved with any squad content outside of moidawgs "eye in the sky" and update videos
IR smoke shouldn't cause a TOW to go off in a random direction due to it being Tube launched, Optically tracked, Wire-guided TOW, does smoke affect its tracking most definitely but not that drastic.
Managed to wipe out a full logi with the WPMC vehicle with the gatling gun, my buddy driving at mach fck speeds. Those poor sods didn't even know what hit them.
I like your suggestion for the Simon offense rifle. Better ads, Worse recoil. 10 in barrels are not quite enough for 556. You have extra recoil and fireballs coming out of the muzzle.
Can we please push for full peripheral support for helicopters. Why can't I use my stick, throttle and pedals? Only two at one time which is silly. Track IR would be a nice to have but I could make it work without it.
No I don't believe they are trying to improve the game as far as optimization and big fixes go. This was one of the most buggy crash ridden updates I've ever played
I love the weapon variety! It feels somewhat realistic yet playful enough so that we get cool and unique weapons. The fact that they actually based a lot of the weapon parts / builds off of real brands gives it a very US PMC feel. I also love the names they used to bye pass copyright 😂
What I use the Sapper's c4 for is when i track a tank or apc and i sneak up on the vic and place a brick under it and blow it up. even if you die you can respawn anywhere at the moment and pull the detonator. I think the det needs to have a range in which it can set off explosives to be set to 50-100meters.
I see they couldn’t get the rights to Daniel defense, magpul, and Leupold lolll. Also the MP5 in real life has like no recoil. So they really did get that spot on
Absolutely loving the mobility of the WPMC. Thoughts on the faction so far?
It's silly that conventional forces have difficulty countering the little bird, it can just fly at high altitudes, out of reach, and lob rockets at enemy. If they keep expanding on aircrafts, they should add more AA options to balance it out.
Stingers would be cool@@Qornv
when played correctly its so good really little birds are the best and balance since they have no armor and cannot take hits but still fun to play CAS hoping to see more bigger maps to let more CAS in squad in every faction but thats a different timeline for OWI great update
Barely anyone enjoys the MEA primaries, but everyone loves the M14. Hmmm....
The PMC faction gets ARs that have semi/full auto, but the US Army and USMC get semi/burst and worse irons on most versions of their ARs. Hmmm....
Absolutely love hunting HABS with the M1117
You can put the remote c4 on the back of techies like the bed or near the back window and they will stick
Commenting for visibility. Good find 👍
this is a PMC not was-was
@@MoiDawg You can also place them on atv's but it's bit weird, you have to stand on the atv looking backwards in the air and then you can place them.
They could honestly make a manpad class. Where you get 1 or 2 of whatever manpad is in that nation
Not necessary until they add proper attack helicopters. The little one they added for PMC is unarmored, so if you spray it with a machine gun you disable it or kill the pilot
oh god no
@@dim7239 exactly. Theyre very weak
Re: PMCs and F-16s; Years ago I worked for a PMC in Afghanistan on a U.S. Government contract (we were basically manpower integrated into an existing U.S. gov't agency). We had access to everything that our military folks had over there. Artillery, rotary, and fixed wing. Once, we had CAS from a B1-B at 40K feet. I never heard or saw the plane, but I saw the side of a mountain come off, courtesy of a 2000lb bomb.
What I don't understand is that the PMC faction can go up against Western factions and still have CAS from a Western plane. How?
@P3RF3CTD3ATH Well the Wagner PMC has fought the Russian Army 1 time and failed. They had and they may still have Russian Air Support in certain conflicts.
Or they just have their own jets
@@P3RF3CTD3ATH I look at it as a stand-in for multiple different factions.
@P3RF3CTD3ATH we are going to need suspension of belief it seems.
@@P3RF3CTD3ATH Just imagine it's Metal Gear Solid 4 where PMCs and corporations are as powerful as governments and standing militaries. War never changes
Huge gripe in the form of question: Why the hell does the rifleman get 530259326092623409 different kits, but the medic doesnt? GIVE MEDICS SOME COOL SHIT TOO!
REAL
Especially stuff like MP5s. Why do they always get long-ass rifles when PDWs are available?
@@benhmn
Just in general. Why not have variety? What does it "break the mold" by introducing more varied medic kits? Does the medic get superpowers and turns into a CQB breacher role by getting an MP5, suddenly forgetting his role?
What about giving him the wormpool/wyrmpool/dragonrider/whatever the fuck type of rifle? Will it reduce his role effectiveness? Or will he make him an op snipah if you give him an m14?
Would it hurt that much to give more options to spice up the already boring (imo) selection of role kits we have now?
And its not like im asking for a marksman to have a scoped m249 or an AR to have a MAWWS launcher, im simply wanting the basic bitch infantry units (SL/RM/MD/LAT/HAT/GL and co) to have a bit more variety.
@@benhmn medics typically have your average rifleman loadout with maybe some modifications like a change in barrel length. I've talked to many guys about this and there's some benefit in reducing your barrel to 13.5~ to reduce the interactions with the gun and the ground and stuff when patching people up, but other than that they're going to carry the same things as a rifleman, and team members are all carrying ifaks plus whatever else the medic needs. The medic carries as much as he can obviously, but he's expected to shoot just the same as everyone else when he can.
Lost a game as WPMCs defending on invasion the other night 7-0 tickets. probably the best game of squad I've ever played
I was in that game. Amazing game for sure.
POV COD AW Vets when they heard or read, “Manticore”:
“NO NO NO NO, CORMACK NO! NO, NOOOOOOOOO!” **PTSD FLASHBACKS**
Cod AW is Gass fr fr
I kinda wish the M113 Mobile Spawn Vehicle would have been represented as an M113 Command Post variant to give it some visual distinction from a normal M113 APC version. Gameplay-wise it makes no difference one way or the other but I think it would have been a nice touch.
4:20 HI-Power is also available for WPMC
It saved my ass twice in one game
I have to disagree with you about Helis, they’re not op… they’re only as good as the pilot who flies them and let’s be real the average player is not zero or meatplow… I also see them get killed from AA and Tows/Atgms or even Btr’s etc. on almost every match I play. My record heli kill was around 1200-1600 with an LAV. I personally think the loach cas could use a little buff and pls bring back the huey gunship and if they bring manpads into the game, they also need to add flares.
I always see them getting sniped out of the air with 1 AP round, I wouldnt mind seeing the armed loach on every pmc unit.
Helis are only fun for the pilot. For everyone else they are just annoying. How many 100 killstreak videos do you think will pop up the upcoming months?
i absolutely agree bro, every youtuber in this game just be glazing the loach and of how 'good' and 'broken' the loach are, but when i got fired by them, i just told my whole squad to shoot back at it, and most of the time the heli either fucked off or the pilot got murked, it's just that most people just don't shoot back for some reason, maybe they thought the heli are bullet proof?🤷♂
@@SanxBile not many because 1. you need to be a good pilot and 2. this thing has only 7 rockets, the minigun does little to no damage on vehicles. 3. you can get sniped out or your engine
TAKE THAT, SLORGS!
Slorgs did him dirty
Haha came looking for this comment xD
Man just took a shot at Moidawg for no reason in that video lmao
Yeah I like slorgs and disappointed in his anti-community statements. As if moidawg hasn't done so much for the squad community
@@PotatoflakeJake yeah same. Entertaining guy with some good funny content. Slorgs is very critical of the game which is just fine (and I agree with lots of his opinions on it) but the cheap shot at moidawg with no provocation was kinda off-putting. Maybe he was having a bad day and was all cranky who knows
hoping for an eastern PMC faction one day
Imagine WPMC and EPMC fought against each other, holy that'll satisfy Black Water and Wagner Group fans a ton.
@@KanrabeloALwelcome to GE
Rare to get a normal match in GE, even the good vanilla servers have bad GE ones @nixles2577
I'm assuming since they called it western we are def getting an eastern
@@KanrabeloALwar has changed
Okay, but you can basically 1-shot the loach with an IFV, and every vehicle with armor has fun shooting at helicopters.
It's a cool idea for modern AA, but i think that is going to push pilots further out of their role.
Yeah, you can see a helicopter from a really long range and stingers have also a long range. Imagine in maps like Afghanistan, where there are no tall trees to hide on, pilots would not be able to fly.
I think they should add a bit more AAA if they see a problem with helicopters being too op.
@@ankilo5519 need to balance realism and playability i agree, unless they make it so some sub-factions have AA some dont so you have to be strategic - you cant pick an armored faction and have AA on a map like Talil its one or the other.
Helis need to be able to be taken out by LAT, or pilots need to be able to get shot and damaged. Like not as easily as normal troops but like it's wild that I can't shoot the pilots it would also force someone to be in the copilot seat and a reason for it to exist
@@ankilo5519wouldn’t the pilot just have to use the lay of the land, hills for cover by flying in low?
@@bennyx1281 yeahhh something like that, but about 30% of the terrain is good for hiding, so the 70% of the helicopter gameplay would be dodging missiles
Hard disagree on the Loach needing SAM's to counter it. I have yet to see it not get swatted out of the sky immediately. It is a very weak machine that's only good for harassing unarmed lone logis or grads. In general Helicopters in squad also get shot down a lot.
Plus it's only available on Air Assault, which is otherwise by far the worst unit category in the game.
Great video. A very mobile class. Dangerous in the right hands 😎
Did a bunch of time in the M1117 Armored Security Vehicle, .50 and a 40mm in th turret - very confidence inspiring, very mobile, add on armor package upgrades... However, very limited visibility. Super fun to drive, great overland, great HP to weight.
One thing I never see in these videos is information on their FOB structures. WPMC has standard tech structures and fortifications, but for weapon emplacements they get grenade launchers alongside the standard 50 cal M2. They have a bunker version and unprotected version.
Realy like your content. Always a blast to watch keep it up man 👍
F16!? C'mon, how I with it be remodel to Mig23 or Hind to referencing Executive outcomes.
Patiently waiting for a WPMC battle report video, see a guide posted instead.
This will do for now 😎😤
So it looks the devs didn't do too much research into what kind of gear PMC's actually use. Because PMC's usually have better gear than the military does. Since they can buy whatever they want and aren't limited to what's approved by the military command structure.
PMCs also usually cheap out on what weapons they run in order to maximise profits
I mean, that’s why they have custom rifles…kinda goes along with that.
Hope they move to UE5 like they did with starship troopers 🌴
I think they should've replaced the m14 with the mk14. The m14 is good, but I feel like it looks very out of place when compared to the after-market looks of their aks and m4s.
I think I knew why it's the M14. I thought it was a reference to the Mini 14 that security contractors literally can not get enough of, but I think it's more a reference to Randy Stugart who was famous for using it in Mogadishu. Black Hawk Down kinda made the M14 a sort of cultural icon (which is frankly more than it deserves, the M14 was kinda a crap weapon with poor quality control) and considering we seem to be dealing with a bunch of air soft enthusiasts, it would make a bit of sense they'd pick them up.
M14 is SOOOOOOO good. Like my god. It's incredible
The attack helicopter make me wonder if they will add attack helicopter to regular factions
In the game files the Little Bird is classified as "CAS Small," so I would expect "CAS Large" or simply "CAS"in the future 👀
Didn’t MEE or one of those mods have a cas chopper as well? I remember getting spawn camped by a little bird trying to resupply habs
They most likely will. They reworked TOWs to make it easier to implement other types of missiles/rockets which probably means some form of MANPADS so that there is an actual counter to any kind of heavy CAS they add like an Apache or MI-28.
@@Eskeletor_210 GE Still has them, Been playing with the Viper before 8.1 came out
@@MoiDawgUH60 CAS, MI8 CAS and UH1Y CAS are coming 100% the game files have UH60 Rocket Pod Models
Honestly I expected the PMC to get Ford Technicals and not reskin Insurgent ones also a civilian Offroad Logi Truck also Weapons that is more to civilian market such as the SIG MPX, MCX, ACR and others
Honestly a few things do feel a bit like placeholders, for instance why the M60T? Did they get them from Turkey, because if they got them straight from Israel they would be Sabra Mk. 2s instead. Actually, why do they even have a tank at all? It kinda feels like they did some testing and realized they felt too weak without one?
@@Aconcernedrifleman well... yeah? All factions on the game need tanks
@@jacaredosvudu1638 Doesn't the PLANMC exclusively use TDs? I thought something like that would be what the WPMCs would get, maybe not amphibious but a pair of lighter TDs instead of one tank, would fit the mobility aspect of the faction better.
@@jacaredosvudu1638 This is a Private Military Company a Company they are not part of a government entity. Therefore, it doesn't make sense why they have an MBT more over majority of their equipment should be originated from civilian markets, surplus military and behind doors contracts with defence companys
@@Aconcernedrifleman perhaps, but i dont think OWI really put much thought onto the faction as a whole
Pro tip The dishkas shoot down the little birds easy
This clapback is actually insane 😂 slorg got dunked on
Imo I don't know about dedicated AA. Its a genie I want left in the bottle. Monkeys paws finger will curl and every helicopter will be decimated on every team in a way that ultimately would be more toxic than a rocket barrage.
I get it, the AA is old... But it also exists already and people have already grown to be professionals at shooting air down with RPG's and TOW missiles..
i love it when i fully mod the upper and lower receivers on my AK
Moi posts a video so good my internet went out for 3 hours
I only wish more of their assets weren’t reskins of existing content. The AK-101, MP5A3, M320, and M14 are really cool.
yo im early, what software do you use to edit your videos?
DaVinci Resolve
Small correction on the Raven helicopter. It looks like a reskinned CH-146 that CAF has. But it's not, it flies very differently. It's very sluggish and acts more like a Russian Mi-8 than a CH-146. Worst helicopter in the game by far since it has the low carrying capacity of 800 supplies just like the CH-146, but without the maneuverability that should come as a tradeoff...
I was really hoping that the PMC weapons were going to be higher quality versions, less recoil, better ADS time, etc. It seems like the whole purpose of the PMC's is higher quality light infantry than the other factions. Their vehicle selection is less beefy than even Insurgents or Irregular Militia so the emphasis needs to be on superior infantry plays and better weapons than other factions would have made that more possible.
Even without the IFVs and having a M60T as MBT PMC faction can overwhelm the enemy faction. With or without CAS.
I remember how much this game indirectly increased by expectations for Battlefield 6 (which ended up as 2042). Cuz if Indie devs could do all of THIS...then imagine what DICE will do...
Lets not forget that Squad has been worked on for... maybe 10 years.
I first heard of it in 2015.
It's been quite a journey to get to where we are. Not only time and experience, but a lot of community feedback and testing went into it.
@@levoGAMES Imagine if EA made a game for as long, and supported it for as long as the Squad devs.
Or if the Squad devs had access to the same amount of money and resources.
If they added Manpads it would be interesting to see how the british martlet and starstreak systems would work given they are both capable of being used against vehicles with Saclos guidance and warheads with some armour penetrating capability.
Just an additionall note: another one the sidearms the PMC's have access to is the Canadian Hi-Power pistols, in addition to the Glock and Beretta M9.
won't be long until we get CAS in almost every faction as long as we get MANPADS and AA capabilities.
WPMC looks like militia version TAF
Got a feeling we're gonna be getting another guided missile update, specifically with fire & forget options.
7:34 did we really expect them to put in effort like that to balance out weapons? come on what game developer are we talking about here?
you should cover a Global escalation mod game soon, with this update they added attack helicopters and AA to most modded factions
The WPMC also gets the Browning Hi-Power too btw
Definitely looks to be a fun faction
Ooooh
Adorable Vibe
Mostly cool faction
Underwhelming given everything else to cover
A video going over each rifles statistics would be interesting.
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we want simulator truck mode, to be toggled if someone want only to work as a truck driver, and enjoying logistics as a simulator, like using a steering wheel, or mouse for steering
"Generic surplus" >Wearing Crye G3 pants, which are +$300
awesome update love this game, cant wait to see your eye in the sky videos with the pmcs!
game developers actually listening to their target audience!
Say it ain't so!
Love the Magpul dressing. same furniture I run on my AR.
This update got me back into squad I’m pretty jazzed about it
They need to add skins for bandages. Like crayons and gummy bears
Has anyone else had an issue with the WPMCs M16s M150 ACOG Optic where it is really small and doesn’t zoom in 4x and acts more like 2x Scope, even though it literally says 4x?
No it's just that the m16 acog is far on the rail but it zoom 4x
Still would've rathered a country like France Germany or Japan lol idk why the community voted for this
Cause it's unique. irregular factions in this game are more popular than conventional.
More fun than boring armies
@@JCeez-jh2uh there isn't much uniqeness in those irregular factions but having IED's and some cool weapons. Which you could get the same enjoyment from other major country factions because they wont be copy and pasted equipment especially for a country like france or japan. If the game is only fun for the community to have irregular vs main faction wise then its failing to do its part of having a fun game like PR was.
The scope for their M14 Marksman is the first useful Marksman scope in the game.
how do i join, just got a new pc that can run the game
Get it on Steam and search for The Potato Fields in the server browser!
you got that first rifle wrong, its the M1 Garand Mod 0
New faction is great and I think it’s the best one yet.
You forgot to talk about MP5/SOR9 has more bullet drop then ANY 9mm pistol....
its sooo. fucking. ridiculous.
Hey Moidawg how do I fix the stuttering?
I'm waiting for the free weekend to be over. The game is unplayable right now.
I saw some kids trying to jump shot. 🤣
My thoughts are that you were not objective and didn't criticize the holy dev's team.
I like most of what they added, highlighted that one of the emotes they added is bugged, and even said it was irresponsible of them to keep pushing CAS without any proper form of surface to air missiles. I also called them out for making two rifles that look different (M4 Wormpool and Simon Offense) and said it was lazy to not give them different stats.
If you don't like the game, don't play it. This is a pretty good update, it's a fun and unique faction, and the backcap change is great for the meta.
pmcs get a sundy, sick
PS2 player spotted, VS NC or TR?
They should instead roll out an update that makes my PC actually beeing able to run this poorly optimised game instead of me having 40 fps as soon as there are a few bushes nearby.
Really overblowing that little bird CAS, eh? Literally any decent MG will murder it if they linger too long
Any idea if the devs are gonna be dropping an Eastern PMC, perhaps after the Ukraine faction?
The shorty M4 is shorter in barrel length and i feel its easier to hipfire in CQB. It just feels more manuverable and managable in comparison.
Considering the changes from ICO, i think people are sleeping on this difference.
Definitely the best faction they've added since the IMF rework imo. So much variety for kits and vehicles (other than heavy armour) which means any round will be different and not just M4, AK, M4, M4, M4, AK etc...
Great vid, Moi! I really enjoy the WPMC as well. As far as the new "Between Rounds Data Interface" I have some ideas:
I have an idea to improve the effectiveness/usefulness of map/faction voting.
When the round is over there are no open coms. Coms change to only command coms between SLs, and squad coms between the individual squads from the previous game. There should be a button on that screen SLs can click to mute their squad coms, so they can communicate with command coms clearly (they did do the Squad Only button). Then they can relate info down the chain of command, so to speak.
Only SLs can vote for maps and factions. They can, if they choose, communicate with their squad to get their vote, and they can deliberate over command coms with the other SLs to decide which map/faction is best for the round ahead.
There are many benefits to this change:
1- Chatter and nonsense in ‘tween-rounds voting is eliminated, so actual planning can be done as faction/map voting is made.
2- The most experienced players (the Commander & SLs are making the final decisions instead of random clicking).
3- Time and proper deliberation is spent on the advantages and disadvantages of X,Y,Z maps/factions (in other words, the info button is being hit, and the map and factions are actually being studied).
4- During this deliberation, it is reasonable to assume that initial strategies will be discussed (“...hey, we need these guys cuz we should do this n that…”), thus giving the potential leaders of the next round at least a rough blueprint (if not a detailed one) of how to play the next round. Certainly the likelihood of taking advantage of the new cap timer and mass back-capping would be exponentially higher.
Remember, the SL is from the previous round, and therefore has some rapport with their personnel. If you can lead them in a Squad battle, you can certainly lead them in a Squad voting round.
The only danger I foresee in this system is a repetition of map/layer scenarios. This is easily fixed by simply offering different faction/map/layer types for voting every round.
If the SL departs after the game, then the temp SL is assigned just like in-game, and this individual will have same said above mentioned powers of voting.
Anyway, I think tis new data could be an excellent tool to increase teamplay IF it can be utilized properly, and I believe the simple above changes could dramatically aid in making that happen. I am curious what you think.
The Loach is very, very vulnerable to EVERY weapon. It has no armour and 2 shots from ANY small arms weapon will destroy the engine, which is ridiculous. Somehow, the utility helicopters can eat a 120mm tank round or an ATGM and keep flying, but the Loach gets engined from two 9mm rounds?
The only reason the Loach can survive anywhere near the enemy is because most players don't know how weak it is so they won't shoot at it.
Solution: All the utility helicopters need their health reduced by about 20-30% and the Loach should have about 50% of the health of a utility helicopter. That would be a decent balance.
And yes, they will then need a proper AA system for when they introduce the medium CAS helicopters because they will have too much health and firepower otherwise.
The CAS isn't op. It takes like 2 shots from infantry and if any vehicle with a gun sees it you can hit it and it will go down easily. Unless it's a wise pilot shooting it's 7 rockets from like 500 meters away and not flying over the obj then it's easy to kill
Wagner group pmc 😂
Currently, the MSV and M1117 seem to be bugged. The MSV tends to do a kick flip when you restart the engine - I see it happen a lot to people, and then it happened to me. Very annoying, makes it nearly unusable (which it already was, since everyone is constantly chasing the MSV as soon as it comes out of main.) The M1117 seems to be bugged in two ways: 1) its armor does not protect well at all, you will nearly always get instantly shot out of it facing any other light vic. 2) the MK19 is constantly unable to reload. The way to fix it, in my experience, is to switch to the MK19, click reload, hop out, hop back in, and NOW the reload sound will start and you’ll get reloaded in a few seconds. Pain in the ass, makes both vehicles unusable tbh.
Hopefully we see those MANPADS soon. Also kinda sad we didn't get any naval unit for the PMC.
On the topic of MANPADS though, what do you think they should do for CAS Helis for the other factions? As well, how should they handle ATGMs like Hellfires and Vikhrs. I think that they should just be omitted entirely in favor of rockets like the Hydra, S-8, S-13, Mighty Mouse, FS-70 (When Germany comes), SNEB (When France comes).
I know what you mean about those Little Birds being a problem. Had one plaguing my game. I got a lucky kill by hopping into a transport jeep's machine gun and taking out it's back rotor. It crash landed and I hunted it down with a rocket while under fire from it's remaining pilot's small arms fire. Honestly my favorite moment of the game so far after two days. Thanks for the informative video!
I don't think MANPADs are required. If they are implemented at all realistically they won't be that effective as time to fire will be too long.
The biggest threat on the battlefield to helicopters are HMGs and auto cannons, which every faction has plenty of. And of course the ZSU 23-2 is in game.
Ok with the Stubby Variant M4 it should only have the ability to fit through smaller spaces like doors and windows and hallways more easily.
20:21 he said Doo-doo
with WPMC, the Turks dont get anything special going for them anymore, especially with the trade off for a more light inf style faction and no HAT kit.
I hope OWI quickly do a rebalancing for all the factions next
You forgot the M32
I know my opinion is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things but I just wanted to put my constructive feedback out there and see if anyone else is like-minded. I am new-ish to squad (200 hours over 2 years) I played mostly before the big infantry update and new weapon handling and suppression system. I just find it really hard to want to come back to this game at times when my character can't wield a damn side arm and put an accurate shot 5 meters out cause I sprinted for 2 seconds. I completely understand their decision to slow the game down and make it less run around and gun, but to be honest, it seems too far on the other side of the spectrum. I am also disappointed to know the different variants of guns like m4 don't actually operate any differently depending on barrel size or grips etc. I'd really like to see some tweaks and changes to the way guns handle, again not saying I wanna be able to full auto spray someone 100 meters out after running for 2 minutes. But i'd really like if I didn't feel punished for sprinting for 2 seconds to cross a street only to enter a compound and have to stand still, crouch, steady aim, and after 3 seconds put a semi accurate shot 20 meters away while having my gun kick like a mule from a single shot. No hate to any devs, just my two cents not sure where many others stand on this as I'm not usually too involved with any squad content outside of moidawgs "eye in the sky" and update videos
what server do u use
IR smoke shouldn't cause a TOW to go off in a random direction due to it being Tube launched, Optically tracked, Wire-guided TOW, does smoke affect its tracking most definitely but not that drastic.
Managed to wipe out a full logi with the WPMC vehicle with the gatling gun, my buddy driving at mach fck speeds.
Those poor sods didn't even know what hit them.
I like your suggestion for the Simon offense rifle. Better ads, Worse recoil. 10 in barrels are not quite enough for 556. You have extra recoil and fireballs coming out of the muzzle.
Can we please push for full peripheral support for helicopters. Why can't I use my stick, throttle and pedals? Only two at one time which is silly. Track IR would be a nice to have but I could make it work without it.
No I don't believe they are trying to improve the game as far as optimization and big fixes go. This was one of the most buggy crash ridden updates I've ever played
I love the weapon variety! It feels somewhat realistic yet playful enough so that we get cool and unique weapons. The fact that they actually based a lot of the weapon parts / builds off of real brands gives it a very US PMC feel. I also love the names they used to bye pass copyright 😂
Hola moi
What I use the Sapper's c4 for is when i track a tank or apc and i sneak up on the vic and place a brick under it and blow it up. even if you die you can respawn anywhere at the moment and pull the detonator. I think the det needs to have a range in which it can set off explosives to be set to 50-100meters.
I wish they would reskin the maps and bug issues, with none of that happening I'd rather just play Arma reforger(even that game is bugged too though)
I see they couldn’t get the rights to Daniel defense, magpul, and Leupold lolll. Also the MP5 in real life has like no recoil. So they really did get that spot on
Ngl it would be sick if they added like a cartel faction, just insurgents but they got even more goofy ass weaponry and technicals
PMC SUVs with mini guns and little birds are epic, about damn time. Been dreaming of this
whats the point of having an I.C.O ,, when you then introduce a No Recoil MP5 ????
I hope the devs listen to you on the short M4 suggestion. I'd love to have a Mk18 style weapon for the urban maps.
I think insurgents should get the respawn vic, maybe the irregulars and airborne, but not the conventional factions.
looks almost exactly like global escalation. is this why it was having so many issues with OWI?
The scorecard/AAR could impact gameplay more than anything since the ICO