Mammoet Salvage - Wreck removal of the SSV Jupiter 1

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  • Watch one of the most daring salvage operation in the Gulf of Mexico, where an environmental disaster of Deepwater Horizon proportions was prevented by pulling off a genius plan by a great group of people.
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  • @1958johndeere620
    @1958johndeere620 5 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    Very refreshing to watch a video with no fake drama. Show the job, don't add the crap, very good. The way it should be presented.

    • @pforce9
      @pforce9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I hate it when they try to drama it up by creating a nonexistent problem and then solving that problem.

    • @johnjerman3421
      @johnjerman3421 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      they added plenty of BS that had nothing to do with the Jupiter 1 wasn't you watching?

    • @tihspidtherekciltilc5469
      @tihspidtherekciltilc5469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree 💯

  • @stanwiggins3423
    @stanwiggins3423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mammoet has a long and storied history of performing major work in a safe, professional, and successful manner. Congratulations to all who were part of this effort.

    • @mistersniffer6838
      @mistersniffer6838 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oil companys basically wrote them an open check. Not a big deal if you have all the money in the world.

  • @nakedoffroad8518
    @nakedoffroad8518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Amazing timeframes and achievements. To us layman the job looks mind boggling, to you guys it's just another day in the office. Well done

  • @felixcat9318
    @felixcat9318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I suspect that the decision to take it out into deeper water and sink it was taken by the insurance companies underwriters rather than the salvage company.

    • @willheyer5856
      @willheyer5856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Getting it into shallow enough water to salvage (Scrap) is not possible in the gulf shore without enviro damage ....well done !

  • @dylandownard209
    @dylandownard209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It blows my mind that they were able to do that in 8 weeks. Most impressive.

  • @63256325N
    @63256325N 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Talk about dodging a bullet!
    Great timing all around.
    Hats off to all involved!
    Thanks for the video.

  • @michaelvarble4392
    @michaelvarble4392 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mammoet has the most intelligent and capable people on earth and I love to watch the great work you do. And you NEVER give up no matter what the circumstances. Bravo

  • @stevenclark6209
    @stevenclark6209 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Six weeks to make the barge is amazing what a great crew.. cool video..

  • @demonknight7965
    @demonknight7965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well MAMOET knows exactly what the hell they are doing. They have lots of experience with both salvage and extreme transportation. they have some geniuses working for them too.

  • @granskare
    @granskare 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    these Dutch firms are the best. Mammoet and Switzer and great.

  • @looneylenny87
    @looneylenny87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Always in Awe when watching these videos. Such Professional Precision.

  • @vonjager
    @vonjager 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Mammoet again proving they are the best in the business. The Dutch got it goin' on!

  • @sunnmann3284
    @sunnmann3284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mammoet I've never seen something so incredible in the form of work not just engineering or the physics behind this this is the first time I've ever seen this video but being a worker on a job site I have to say this is incredible in the form of work one of my favorite sayings on the job is record time and I must say..... now that's what I'm talkin about

  • @CanadaRulez4Ever
    @CanadaRulez4Ever 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is next level engineering when you have to solve a random technical problem under random weather conditions

  • @jeffcanyafixiy
    @jeffcanyafixiy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Tremendous project to undertake. Incredibly well engineered. 👍👍👍

  • @dustinwolfe9591
    @dustinwolfe9591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The timeline for building that barge is insane. Doesnt leave much room for error

  • @granskare
    @granskare 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The Dutch are, I believe, the finest salvage people in the world.

    • @hoime5495
      @hoime5495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well we had to salvage our own country a few times

    • @RDC_Autosports
      @RDC_Autosports 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Smit is real good too

    • @robertmetzger1753
      @robertmetzger1753 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shut up Already !! Lololol The Norwegians are Jyst as Good !! So there ! LOLOLOLHAHA

  • @rocket3man
    @rocket3man 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding documentary.

  • @TheMegaspenny
    @TheMegaspenny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    "and then we dumped it in the ocean a lil further away"

    • @themantheledge
      @themantheledge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea? I expected more than that?

    • @HMSHOOD1920
      @HMSHOOD1920 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@themantheledge how? The things was fucking massive. There was nothing else they could’ve done with it.

    • @themantheledge
      @themantheledge 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HMSHOOD1920 India chop boats way bigger, admittedly not very enviro friendly, but job gets done

    • @TRUMPgotthePOWER
      @TRUMPgotthePOWER 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HMSHOOD1920 Watch more of this channels videos, and you'll see this was a smaller item , and should have been salvaged. resources are not infinite

  • @carlmills798
    @carlmills798 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done all regards Mr Mills

  • @citizen23606
    @citizen23606 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nicely done

  • @fterrysmith6753
    @fterrysmith6753 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nice upload...Could the unit have been saved with earlier attempts to stabilize the accommodation unit or was this an unpreventable incident once the primary damage (leak?) occurred?

  • @johnlangley6449
    @johnlangley6449 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dutch salvage masters determine men in a determined business 😊

  • @MrAirblown2009
    @MrAirblown2009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now this was an awesome accomplishment.

  • @saschakroger8016
    @saschakroger8016 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very impressive, well done

  • @nickk7425
    @nickk7425 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God damn could you imagine how EXPENSIVE that must have been?

  • @TheBigWWI
    @TheBigWWI 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Titan Salvage was an amazing company. They were the brains behind the Costa Concordia salvage. So sad they are no more.

    • @mistersniffer6838
      @mistersniffer6838 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn't have been THAT brainy, unless dude just grabbed money and retired!!

  • @kimdrikkjaerlaursen6879
    @kimdrikkjaerlaursen6879 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God job don, by a 100% dedicated company and crew.

  • @1978garfield
    @1978garfield 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would love know exactly what happened to sink it.
    Reminded me of Ocean Ranger.
    I am glad in this case they evacuated in time.

    • @demonknight7965
      @demonknight7965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      developed hole in the pontoon likely due to metal fatigue. or maybe it hit a rock or something somewhere.

  • @eddielane9569
    @eddielane9569 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very impressive.

  • @BobSmith1980.
    @BobSmith1980. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I bet that was expensive.

  • @7891ph
    @7891ph 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a longer, more in depth video about this?

  • @paulgrimm342
    @paulgrimm342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love his tie

  • @beardy4831
    @beardy4831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    No mention at all of what caused the original problem.

    • @MrUranium238
      @MrUranium238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sharks

    • @paulgrimm342
      @paulgrimm342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It sunk

    • @markfuller9886
      @markfuller9886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The pontoon had a stress crack that started leaking and the weight of the water tore it open

  • @elcam84
    @elcam84 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video however much of the video has poor audio as the background music is louder than the voices making it hard to hear what is being said in parts of the video.

    • @pforce9
      @pforce9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They don't realize that you don't need background music.

  • @woooster71
    @woooster71 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find these videos really fascinating.. But less of the loud dramatic music would make it better

  • @weld4200
    @weld4200 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So my question is .these oil rigs always seem stationary.. Do they have props or motors to move around ?

  • @galas455
    @galas455 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Background music was ok but a bit loud. Good video!

  • @nickbreen287
    @nickbreen287 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Engineers!Without them nothing works.

    • @stanpatterson5033
      @stanpatterson5033 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sometimes because of them, it doesn't work, either....

    • @devinhaisma
      @devinhaisma 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Stan Patterson thats right engineers are mostly hated by mechanics

    • @DieselRamcharger
      @DieselRamcharger 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@devinhaisma because mechanics are low iq people.

    • @devinhaisma
      @devinhaisma 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DieselRamcharger it has nothing to do with IQ

    • @DieselRamcharger
      @DieselRamcharger 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@devinhaisma lol oh yes it does. engineers went to college mechanics are low tier fuck wits.

  • @countteddy
    @countteddy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    now that is a tie........

  • @codyking4848
    @codyking4848 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mammoet is the best!

  • @DAVIDMILLER-nc9vo
    @DAVIDMILLER-nc9vo ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope that the editors of this video do not continue adding such horrible background noise to an otherwise fine video. Silence of background music and noise is a good thing.

  • @harrykeekstra7849
    @harrykeekstra7849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    schandalig en dan hebben ze het over het millieu

  • @lelins300
    @lelins300 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Approximately how much would have mammoet would have got paid? 🤔

  • @ridleyscurry2480
    @ridleyscurry2480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i am very surprised they didn't at least salvage it for scrap. To me it seems quite wasteful

  • @stanpatterson5033
    @stanpatterson5033 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I don't know why instead of taking out to deeper waters, they couldn't have towed it back to port, and begun to scrap it.

    • @bas6983
      @bas6983 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Stan Patterson there are no real deep water ports in the US Gulf.

    • @ke6gwf
      @ke6gwf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It was already falling apart, would not have made the trip, and there is no where around there that scraps such things, especially when it is hanging so deep in the water.

    • @jamesgarrison6430
      @jamesgarrison6430 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cost it cost way too much to scrap something then it does to go sink it

    • @Zeknix
      @Zeknix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also, artificial reefs in the GoM does wonders for the ecosystem. It's amazing how much life they support. Just wish they put it in an area that had a depth of 200-300 ft. Would be an amazing place to fish.

    • @paulgrimm342
      @paulgrimm342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cheaper to sink it.

  • @davidh.andreotta94
    @davidh.andreotta94 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did the rig have a high pressure air system to blow out the pontoon?

    • @AR-ml9eo
      @AR-ml9eo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope.

  • @appmagician3240
    @appmagician3240 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Natuurlijk weer Mammoet, wie anders?

  • @wyattmealing
    @wyattmealing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is it now

  • @plunder1956
    @plunder1956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish they had lowered the music level in the mix. It's annoying. Pity it's an interesting project.

  • @theronsnell396
    @theronsnell396 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Far out!

  • @DomManInT1
    @DomManInT1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And no one flooded the opposite pontoon to balance the vessel. Bay of Campeche is only about 180 feet deep. LOL

  • @machineman7806
    @machineman7806 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What was the price tag on that??? Holy smoke

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some job to pull off at all, never mind without getting people hurt.

  • @christopherscobie
    @christopherscobie 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why was it NOT towed when listing?

  • @ErickTiki
    @ErickTiki 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wonder why scuttle why not bring to scrap yard or shore to scrap so as not to cause enviromental issues later on?

  • @nathandean1687
    @nathandean1687 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    scuttle all that iron in deep sea. bring that boat to land . then salvage the whole thing.

    • @MrMattumbo
      @MrMattumbo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's really expensive to do and there are only a few places in the world that do it anymore due to the hazardous conditions such salvage creates for workers and the environment. They would've had to tow that whole thing across the Atlantic to have it salvaged economically and of course, they could not have done that without flipping the thing and with its catamaran design that would've been a giant operation using huge cranes. Nope, cheaper to just sink it safely and take whatever the insurance will cover, not like we'll ever run out of iron anyway.

    • @hevendor958
      @hevendor958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you do know they clean the ships out when they sink them also in the video they remove the Oil and fuel DO YOU NEED TO READ A BOOK

  • @jetvette66
    @jetvette66 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "...hit a blowout"?

  • @VashStarwind
    @VashStarwind ปีที่แล้ว

    Man i cant believe they raised it, just to sink it again. They should of towed it to shore, and cut it up for scrap. That would of been millions in scrap metal.

  • @robertmetzger1753
    @robertmetzger1753 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Don't see why they Scuttled it ! Insurance probably said to heck with it theres you Claim Check and then got out of the Off Shore Busness ! Other wise it would have been interesting to see the Rig Righted back to Upright but It would have cost too much,,, who decides these things was it the Mex's Rigs ?

  • @bushelfoot
    @bushelfoot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not cut it up for recycling.?

  • @pompevvik2961
    @pompevvik2961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jut imagine how much more interesting and enjoyable this presentation would have been without that very disturbing back ground noise.

  • @couttsw
    @couttsw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like the guy who had the keys to the pumps, went on vacation and took the keys. Duh what no pumps... And no one took responsibility...

  • @cw7784
    @cw7784 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Why didn't they salvage it instead of sinking it

    • @RubenLensvelt
      @RubenLensvelt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probably because no expensive equipment on board. Cheaper to make new.

    • @bikebros6769
      @bikebros6769 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and it makes an artificial reef!

    • @jamesgarrison6430
      @jamesgarrison6430 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As soon as it went into saltwater nothing on that was salvageable and all honesty it would cost way more to try and Salvage than it was to just sink it

    • @hevendor958
      @hevendor958 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      they cleaned the god damn rig out DO YOU EVEN UNDER STAND

  • @Shredderbox
    @Shredderbox ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally bonkers that the companies just decided it wasn't worth anything, and then just sunk it in the ocean rather than clean up their garbage.

  • @patrickspringer6534
    @patrickspringer6534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't like the background music. The documentary could stand on its own.

  • @zyxwvutsrqponmlkh
    @zyxwvutsrqponmlkh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    TH-cam thinks this is a gaming video.

  • @anthonyxuereb792
    @anthonyxuereb792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It seems to me SSV Jupiter 1 was of poor design. It's an accommodation platform housing nearly 800
    personnel yet as soon as it springs a leak it capsizes. I just don't get it how the design was approved.
    The loss of life could have been horrendous.

    • @woooster71
      @woooster71 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree.. there should have been secondary, back up redundant systems in place to avoid this, surely? Multiple giant airbags that inflate to keep it from actually rolling?

    • @anthonyxuereb792
      @anthonyxuereb792 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@woooster71 Agree, there is a good case for the use of giant airbags for maritime use and in other areas too.

    • @MegaReception1
      @MegaReception1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@anthonyxuereb792 Agree but Pemex is a burrocratic monster no Quick reactions. Just bag her or pontoon her till pump out.

  • @west2284
    @west2284 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mammoet Salvage, a job for The Golden Ray?

  • @johnoneill9539
    @johnoneill9539 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Strange !kept this one very quiet wonder why?.., .

    • @RU-zm7wj
      @RU-zm7wj 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      OOOooo... it's a conspiracy, John! Beware!

    • @ke6gwf
      @ke6gwf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably because it wasn't sensational, so the news ignored it.
      No one was hurt or died, it was in Mexico, and it didn't cause a spill.

  • @arthurroberts491
    @arthurroberts491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too bad the music is so intrusive. Next time leave the music out.

  • @Medved-Yarik
    @Medved-Yarik 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So is that piece of junk still at the bottom of the ocean?

  • @matthewrogers94mr
    @matthewrogers94mr ปีที่แล้ว

    I still ask why the heck are we drilling in the ocean when we can drill on land and contain the spill alot better and prevent major spills from happening and less ecological impact, also try to find something better then oil thats better for the inviromeant!

  • @TheRebelOne.
    @TheRebelOne. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great rescue until I heard the word "scuttle".........!

    • @The_JEB
      @The_JEB 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As unfortunate as it is to scuttle it into the water, it can be used by the fish and other sea animals as artificial reef, which isnt an uncommon practice.

    • @ke6gwf
      @ke6gwf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No benefit to anyone to not scuttle it, and since it was breaking up, and had all the oils and such removed from it, no harm to anything by scuttling it.

    • @MrMattumbo
      @MrMattumbo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ke6gwf Plus ship breaking is really bad for the workers and the environment, the only places that do it economically are 3rd world. Better for everybody to clean it up and send it to Davie Jones rather than tow that thing hundreds or even thousands of miles to be scrapped by poor people with little to no safety equipment while polluting their local waterfront. That or have to pay a shit ton of money to an American firm to do it safely. Either way, it's way better to scuttle.

    • @frankvandendool882
      @frankvandendool882 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrMattumbo Don't you have something better to do? The ships aren't the problem, the scrapping isn't the problem either. The problem begins with MONEY, again. They scrap the ships where it is cheapest. Wich happens to be third world country's, because there are NO rules. It is definitely possible to scrap ships safely. Everybody that claims otherwise is an idiot. It IS possible, it's just not cheap to do safely. That's where 3rd world country's come in. Don't understand me wrong. I'm NOT condoning this, but it is what happens. It's stupid to throw all that iron away too. Iron WILL run out too.

  • @HMSHOOD1920
    @HMSHOOD1920 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fucking mad lads.

  • @dougmapper3306
    @dougmapper3306 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oscar Lopez has a good taste in neckties

  • @SkipSpotter
    @SkipSpotter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RIP All those fishies got squashed on the ocean floor

  • @zippienippi
    @zippienippi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hol' up...
    So they went through all that, and just fucking left it at the bottom of the ocean!? And then end the video on a high note with some upbeat royalty free music? Dafaq

  • @dpcooper381
    @dpcooper381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    distracting music

  • @johnjerman3421
    @johnjerman3421 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    gee whiz it only took 4 minutes before they lost track of the subject & started speaking about a disaster that has nothing to do with the Jupiter 1 - come on man

  • @christophergillespie1250
    @christophergillespie1250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why didn't they just cut it were it was and removed it piece by piece. Then scrap it. 🤔

    • @EFCasual
      @EFCasual 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because cutting underwater is how people die, even when well planned out.

    • @weld4200
      @weld4200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im an underwater welder . and ill tell u first hand . u do not want to cut underwater in conditions like this . . currents .lose metal. Crude oil . none of that stuff mixes well along with the swells. Also . as soon as u cut something free you have to be on the look out for anything else that could crush u . or get tangled on ur airline . .plus cutting piece by piece would take way to long . better to work from the surface pull it away and drop her free in deep water .. They did everything flawlessly . unless ur an underwater welder .you dont rele know how dangerous this all could be

  • @philiphorner31
    @philiphorner31 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very expensive effup.

  • @cw7784
    @cw7784 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why don't they scrap it instead of sinking it get some of that money back

  • @MegaReception1
    @MegaReception1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This just proves that if you have a fat wallet you can due anything.

  • @kutamsterdam
    @kutamsterdam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Leave it to the Dutch 😉... apart from the very irritating crap music a good documentary.

  • @rileysmith5196
    @rileysmith5196 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    M

  • @wilhelmushoffmann8054
    @wilhelmushoffmann8054 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lousy "background music" .

  • @cw7784
    @cw7784 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why sink it ? Instead of getting it repaired Waste of money and metal that could be recycled

  • @benterrell9139
    @benterrell9139 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The music is better annoying

  • @hillbilly4555
    @hillbilly4555 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deep water salvage would be a great program if they didn’t have so many episodes at once. So I deleted them out of my Spectrum watch list 👎

  • @hairybustard4247
    @hairybustard4247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh that’s nice. You just dumped it in the sea. Not even an attempt to take it to the shallows and cut it up?
    Disgusting

  • @thisisconstruction.
    @thisisconstruction. 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t recycle it.. just sink it... wtf... so much garbage...

    • @dingo9617
      @dingo9617 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why the fuck would they sink something like this?

  • @FriendsAtParty
    @FriendsAtParty 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    And why do you sunk it? You should remove it completly from the ocean, thanks for the pollution from the US, as usual

    • @onebridge7231
      @onebridge7231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was managed by Mexico you tool. Owned by U.S. company, but operated and leased by Mexico. They removed all the toxic material and deep sixed it to save cost. It is a reef now being used by gulf species as habitat. Everything on that pontoon came from the earth and Mother Nature will reclaim it. Stop using electricity and riding that motorcycle. All parts are either made of or use of oil.

    • @FriendsAtParty
      @FriendsAtParty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Art Bridgeman before writing things that you don’t know about, you should learn a little bit about antifooling, that’s one of the most toxic material, but for sure, it’s an artificial reef 100% no toxic. What a pack of shit that you’re writing.

  • @IgorMint-tp2wm
    @IgorMint-tp2wm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Что делали-непонятно.Селфи,фото,реклама "мамута" и пр. лабуда.Отстой.