Mud Fight in Lyme Bay (salvage of the MSC NAPOLI)

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  • Documentaire over de berging van het achterschip van de MSC NAPOLI, één van de grootste containerschepen ter wereld, dat zonk in Lyme Bay voor de Zuid-Engelse kust - ©PKFV.
    Documentary on the salvage of the stern of the MSC NAPOLI, one of the largest container vessels in the world, that sank in Lyme Bay near the South-English coast - ©PKFV.
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  • @peterdavidson3268
    @peterdavidson3268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    The MSC Napoli incident played a significant part in the evolution of International Maritime Regulations.
    SOLAS (acronym standing for Safety Of Life At Sea) regulations were updated directly as a result of the MSC Napoli's failure. Prior to this SOLAS regulations had required the gross weights for each container manifested on a vessel to be declared but there was no effective mechanism in place to actually check the veracity of gross weight reported to each vessel master prior to its loading. This rather obvious breach in the regulation had been systematically abused for decades, with some areas of the maritime global network notorious for under-reporting gross weight measurements. The end result of these negligent practices (in some parts of the world) was vessels sailing in a dangerously overloaded and/or unstable manner - in other words, an accident waiting to happen, which it did in Lyme Bay during 2007.
    The updated SOLAS regulations meant that each and every container had to be physically weighed at an approved, ie licensed by an approved individual National agency, weighbridge facility before loading. The Gross weight was just one of the pieces of information provided on the Export Customs Entry, no certificate stating the weight, your container doesn't load on to the vessel!
    I worked from Spring 2011 onwards in International Freight Forwarding - before that I was on the other side of the fence as a user of such services - I recall everyone involved in international shipping, principally those on the export side, moaning about the hassle of now having to both arrange and pay for the certified weighing of containers prior to actual loading on to the vessel (this extra stage had to be factored into your time schedule so you met the various vessel sailing deadlines with comfort). This TH-cam video of the documentary explains why such additional regulations were required - before the extra stage of actual weighing being mandatory, container vessels were sailing the oceans with, in some cases, severely overdeclared and under-declared gross tonnage data - given stability issues, a container being significantly less than the real weight was just as big a problem as the other way round. Coastal communities around the globe were in danger of significant negative impacts resulting from vessels foundering.
    The changes in SOLAS regulations are summarised in this handy on-line document
    www.worldshipping.org/History_of_IMO_Effort_to_Improve_Container_Safety_May_2014.pdf

    • @NazriB
      @NazriB 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lies again? Marine Soldier

  • @StonyRC
    @StonyRC 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Those guys have nerves and balls of titanium - it's a bloody dangerous environment and a high-risk venture. Bloody well done guys!

  • @rohawaha
    @rohawaha 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    There are very few men in the world brave enough and smart enough to do this job.Hat's off to The owners and the professionals they employ !

  • @stevedoubleu99B
    @stevedoubleu99B 6 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Our Dutch friends are very innovative when it comes to maritime problem solving. Well done from UK.

    • @jessebarbier515
      @jessebarbier515 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thx

    • @klaaskomvaak1816
      @klaaskomvaak1816 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jessebarbier515 sukkeltje

    • @jessebarbier515
      @jessebarbier515 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@klaaskomvaak1816 thx

    • @ancientmariner7473
      @ancientmariner7473 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      What a shame the UK gov does not see fit that a former maritime power such as ourselves no-longer has capabilities as this.

    • @kutamsterdam
      @kutamsterdam 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@klaaskomvaak1816 ... Hahahaha

  • @barryolaith
    @barryolaith 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The Dutch are the masters of maritime salvage.

  • @richardcole9558
    @richardcole9558 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Dutch boys are true masters of marine salvage ...superb job .

  • @martijnb5887
    @martijnb5887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Definitely one of the most interesting salvage documentaries. I really like the innovative way of working. And even then finished in time. Absolutely impressive.

  • @TASMAN-1
    @TASMAN-1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    20:45- "It looked like a mobile floating scrapyard". Someone give that reporter a medal, he's a god damn genius !!!

  • @bruceboatwright7488
    @bruceboatwright7488 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Very interesting story, well told.
    My admiration for the work of these people is boundless. A hearty well done from South Dakota, USA, very far from the sea.

  • @London1064
    @London1064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Dutch Engineers are very clever people. Great job 👍

    • @taunteratwill1787
      @taunteratwill1787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You too would get very clever if you would work with 'watery problems' for 400 years. :-)

  • @picobyte
    @picobyte 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Really good that the people talk without interference from the narrator.

  • @altractors
    @altractors 11 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    That was a very interesting video, thanks for posting it!

  • @gaslitworldf.melissab2897
    @gaslitworldf.melissab2897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So happy to see all this useful metal being lifted and made ready for upcycling into something useful today. Bravo for patience and determination.

  • @angusosborne3151
    @angusosborne3151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I've worked for 30 + years as a heavy duty mechanic and welder/fabricator. I can't imagine how difficult it would have been to cut that thing apart with a torch after so long underwater.

    • @ZerokillerOppel1
      @ZerokillerOppel1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actuallly that's not so hard. It all depends on the angle you hold your cutting torch. You have to hold it almost parallel to the material and then you can blast through almost anything. I burned my way through thick layers of rust/steel/mud that way when building constructions on site at Tata Steel Ijmuiden. And I can tell you that some sites at the Tata terrain resemble the rusty hulk of the MSC Napoli very much....

  • @zimbag
    @zimbag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great documentary. Thanks for not spoiling it with Dramatic music and irritating mach narration.

  • @derekstocker6661
    @derekstocker6661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very, very interesting programme, well done everyone on the salvage team, the chain problem must have been a real headache and also a surprise to everyone as the dimensions and numbers were already done.
    Great job all round though!

  • @ImSafeonSite
    @ImSafeonSite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great documentary. Thank you

  • @imautuber
    @imautuber 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Now that was impressive work !

  • @videogalore
    @videogalore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well that was rather addictive to watch - makes me want to move into marine salvage!

    • @jakeb5544
      @jakeb5544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Omg yess

    • @hootowl6354
      @hootowl6354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too. How nice it would be to do something fun and interesting instead of sitting on my hemorrhoids in an office cubicle.

  • @johnmckinley8447
    @johnmckinley8447 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A very successful clean up, well done

  • @olivierbolton8683
    @olivierbolton8683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW! Great Work Guys...following the MV WAKASHIO dismantling in Mauritius.

  • @PKFVchannel
    @PKFVchannel  9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    @davetileguy by using this technique they could control the lifting and pressure per section; using submergable barges would not allow for this delicate lifting. breaking of the wreck during the lifting process would lead to an environmental disaster. The mud was so stiff and thick that putting air in under pressure would notfree it from 9 meters of mud it was stuck in. That's why only this approach was a feasible option.

    • @petermeuller7355
      @petermeuller7355 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @William Davis no. Just read the explanation.

  • @bigredc222
    @bigredc222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, what an amazing job, those guys really earn their money, very interesting documentary.
    Thanks

  • @michelebeck4311
    @michelebeck4311 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The chain pullers r brilliant

  • @delboytrotter8806
    @delboytrotter8806 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done guys,
    Good job.

  • @MrWhiseguyy
    @MrWhiseguyy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I find this most interesting!

  • @jonikiba1
    @jonikiba1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    100% Hollands Glorie / Dutch Glory

  • @PKFVchannel
    @PKFVchannel  10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    @Norman Mcgill, the operation was financed by the insurance company that insured the vessel.

  • @SirPrancelot1
    @SirPrancelot1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating. Thanks.

  • @Richie_
    @Richie_ ปีที่แล้ว

    This scale of engineering amazes me. And I'm a precision engineer. I love it.

  • @EITURKEY1
    @EITURKEY1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    good vid, very educational!

  • @alancollard8939
    @alancollard8939 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    being a westcountry man living in the u s a i was surprised to see that this had happened in 2007 and i hadnt heard about it , what a engineering feat amazing

  • @godbluffvdgg
    @godbluffvdgg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome editing! :)

  • @haraldpettersen3649
    @haraldpettersen3649 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It is always a game of chance when buying a used chain, because that is what it is. I live three kilometers from where they bought it, they got what they ordered. They could buy a new chain in the same place if they wanted .

  • @ErikssonTord_2
    @ErikssonTord_2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Noticed an in memory note at the beginning of the video with three Dutch names. Did they die during the salavge?!

  • @gibbogle
    @gibbogle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful!

  • @alexandrecosta8024
    @alexandrecosta8024 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THE BEST HOLANDA VERY VERY NICE

  • @63256325N
    @63256325N 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing!

  • @BulletmanDoom
    @BulletmanDoom 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Truely amazing

  • @jebsails2837
    @jebsails2837 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great save. Sorry about the loss of life. From Narragansett Bay.

  • @j-man6001
    @j-man6001 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this!

  • @doce7606
    @doce7606 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This method of drilling cables beneath wrecks seems quite established. nice shots of the cliffs of lyme bay. peace

  • @johnball2657
    @johnball2657 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Were the first chains made in China?

  • @theuktoday4233
    @theuktoday4233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what a team of fearless men

  • @mdmoinuddinmoinuddin6714
    @mdmoinuddinmoinuddin6714 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    প্রথম লাইক

  • @123boat
    @123boat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job 😀👍

  • @Rickimusic
    @Rickimusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think I read elsewhere that the first set of chains were "used" before, elsewhere. The second set were, obviously, made from substandard materials and failed quite miserably. No testing and/or quality control on the second set, I would guess. Did anyone catch if the second set were brand new or also "used" junk? All that testing of the pullers and none for the chains.

    • @4stringmanagmaildcom
      @4stringmanagmaildcom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. Should have pull tested them before taking them to the site.

  • @timk.2381
    @timk.2381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best what happens was that they beach this ship before it broken, so that they can control the Incident and could handle all Environment dangers in short time and without blocking important ship routes over years.

  • @MrChrissy1r
    @MrChrissy1r 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very good job well done.

  • @gangesexcavating
    @gangesexcavating 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It takes Hitachi excavators to finish the job! Real iron!

  • @patrickrobinson-mh5jw
    @patrickrobinson-mh5jw 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video

  • @georgetempest9627
    @georgetempest9627 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Funny old habits the human body developes, when ever I see someone welding, I squint to protect my eyes :o)

    • @Headwind-1
      @Headwind-1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh yea weird innit

    • @relentlessmadman
      @relentlessmadman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      burned retinas are nothing to mess with good habit!

  • @limeyosu2000
    @limeyosu2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wouldn't want to be near one of those chains when they snap!

  • @rabwoody264
    @rabwoody264 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting footage and we'll presented made a nice change.

  • @Spookieham
    @Spookieham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm curious as to why the Dutch particularly seem to be the worlds experts on vessel salvage?

    • @taunteratwill1787
      @taunteratwill1787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ever heard of the name "schiphol" (Dutch airport) It translates as "ships hell". It used to be all sea and no land, the weather conditions were so shitty that many ships coming back from the colonies sank over there. They have been lifting shipwrecks for 300 years. :-)

  • @Buelligan88
    @Buelligan88 9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I can't believe I watched this entire video.

    • @jbuckley2546
      @jbuckley2546 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Why, have you got attention span issues?

  • @hfraat25
    @hfraat25 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very clever job 👍

  • @MikeMikeSmith
    @MikeMikeSmith 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    “Hey, we can get the same chain, cheaper from India!”

    • @davidschwartz5127
      @davidschwartz5127 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, they properly got the second from China

    • @Disinterested1
      @Disinterested1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      does'nt get the joke
      does'nt understand what "stock" is or why people would depot products prior to sale
      calls everyone else names for concepts beyond their own understanding
      posts multiple identical responses
      yup
      certified genius!!!

    • @nathandean1687
      @nathandean1687 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      but will it hold . the wieght and strain of the muck.

  • @kingjames7273
    @kingjames7273 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job

  • @cxrcraig3
    @cxrcraig3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dam good job. Just wonder how many tons of material, liquids etc were lost or left from the cleanup

  • @MsJinkerson
    @MsJinkerson 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how do you lift that out of the mud that big very carefully

  • @MarkGilder999
    @MarkGilder999 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    worked on a salvage ship called Celtic Lord. hard, dangerous work but I learned so much, my brother was 'cheif'. he did some pretty crazy wreck dives.

  • @dickiedollop
    @dickiedollop 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    they’ve done a mans job - well done 👍🏻

    • @neilhobson3624
      @neilhobson3624 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Richard Evans . Crikey Richard, you’ll be having those woke crowd after you Ha Ha 👍👍.

  • @fw1421
    @fw1421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a mammoth undertaking. I take it the insurance company is paying for the salvage?

  • @brucebooher2288
    @brucebooher2288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I understand the need and applaud the effort. But what about the hundreds (thousands) of ships lost during the wars?

    • @PhilJonesIII
      @PhilJonesIII 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quite a lot still down there and are likely to stay.

    • @TrappedinSLC
      @TrappedinSLC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There’s actually someone tracking them and flagging ones that are thought to be at particular risk of a bad leak of fuel, etc. There’s several regularly inspected for signs of leaks by like Coast Guards and similar.

  • @murrayboth7649
    @murrayboth7649 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video guys!

  • @insertnamehere5146
    @insertnamehere5146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    thats what happens when you buy your chains from china via ebay on buy it now (free postage)

  • @PKFVchannel
    @PKFVchannel  9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @derrell taylor: that was no option because it sank in a protected wildlife environment.

  • @PKFVchannel
    @PKFVchannel  9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    sorin otel The vessel had run aground and was damaged too much to be floated again, and demolishing was the only option left to remove it. So, they cut the vessel just in front of the wheel house and first removed the bow section. However, when they started to demolish the stern part it got damaged even more and sunk deep in the mud. As the vessels situation and condition now had change dramatically, another salvage company that was more experienced and better equipped was commissioned to execute the salvage operation of the stern.

    • @derekmercer3735
      @derekmercer3735 6 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @steelem422
    @steelem422 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much did this cost the salvage value of the left over ship is minimal?

  • @jorgebravo415
    @jorgebravo415 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bra jobba gutter.

  • @shipwrecked2006
    @shipwrecked2006 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    as much is spent to retrieve waste such as this if only 1/2 as much was used to prevent plastic from going into our oceans we'd be a lot better off

    • @whocares4199
      @whocares4199 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But then if you do that the crude oil suppliers and raw plastic manufacturers who control the unelected 15 of the EU will have to report less revenue to share investors. Tut tut tut.....we cant have that

  • @CycolacFan
    @CycolacFan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I understood correctly the piece they were lifting weighed 4000 tonnes and they had 12 chains each rated at 250 tons. Add to that extremely sticky clay and water resistance.
    I'm no expert but I'm not surprised the chains snapped.

    • @joldback
      @joldback 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I must take into account the fact that the hull was submerged , therefore it was lighter.

    • @johnkidd1226
      @johnkidd1226 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, way understrength for the load and resistance. Should have been double the dead weight they were lifting.

    • @Sjanzo
      @Sjanzo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      12 chains of 250 ton, with two strands each, is 6000 ton of WLL.

  • @daviscampbell9020
    @daviscampbell9020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The strongest chain is only as good as the weakest link.

  • @richardbearden7889
    @richardbearden7889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They replaced the chain with chain from Norway...they probably had chain from china...

  • @timburnett6729
    @timburnett6729 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible

  • @duncan6406
    @duncan6406 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    May be ask next time the dutch experts well done

  • @peregrinegrace8570
    @peregrinegrace8570 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That mud is like superglue 😳
    Every south coast sailor knows its power, if we ground our keels, just for a moment , we're not going anywhere until the tide rises 🤬

  • @BloodRedKat
    @BloodRedKat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember seeing her from Sidmouth. She was there long enough that it seemed strange once she was gone.

  • @hothmobile100
    @hothmobile100 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Norway makes better chains. Who made the the other chains that broke even when custom ordered as new?

  • @karlhrdylicka
    @karlhrdylicka 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So where is this engine that was said to weigh over a thousand tons ? was that taken apart and loaded on the barge in smaller sections .. just curious .

    • @garman1966
      @garman1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea. I I'm bummed they didn't cover that.

  • @user-js4zx1lr2u
    @user-js4zx1lr2u 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's a tough job, each link weighs 90 kg. Come on, the diver attached a cable, and the cable was hauled up and laid in the puller. The toughest part was likely finding the chain in the muck.

  • @CL-vz6ch
    @CL-vz6ch 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should team up with that shredder channel

  • @gamow
    @gamow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    mud fight??? and where are the girls ??? !!!

  • @MegaBoilermaker
    @MegaBoilermaker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "When will it be finished ?" What a stupid question given British weather.

    • @getin3949
      @getin3949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did it really matter as long as it was done in the end? A few extra days wouldn't have altered the cost much.

    • @chubeye1187
      @chubeye1187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      BBC journalist for you

  • @mplewp
    @mplewp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    don't underestimate the dutch . They are innovative as F. Better than the japanese in terms of out of the box thinking.

  • @347chas
    @347chas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So , what happened to the engines that weighed it down, no sign of them on camera.

    • @zoki.to974
      @zoki.to974 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      18:43 in couple of scenes you can see engine block sticking out of the water.

    • @sleddheddious755
      @sleddheddious755 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The engine is there, you can see the tops of the exhaust valve housings. But youdon't know what that looks like, so shut up.

    • @pch11550a
      @pch11550a 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      17:30

    • @chrisburn7178
      @chrisburn7178 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      19:16 and 19:21 is the crankcase and you can see a piston in the background.

  • @Softail77us
    @Softail77us 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That rudder could make someone a nice shelter.

  • @ezr168
    @ezr168 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like.

  • @jed-henrywitkowski6470
    @jed-henrywitkowski6470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Geez. That's a big ass engine!

  • @mistersniffer6838
    @mistersniffer6838 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am more interested in knowing how the get the drill to angle back up to the surface!!

  • @mikebeatstsb7030
    @mikebeatstsb7030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4000 tons.. They have 12 pullers that can hold 250 tons each...? That's not enough to start with isit? Unless my maths is wrong that only adds up to 3000 tons of lift... There 1000 tons short.!?
    And thats without the weight of the mud and water and clay on top..! They should have had 20 pullers and stop pissing around

    • @TrappedinSLC
      @TrappedinSLC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I feel like “it’s full of mud!” Should not be a surprise in this kind of situation?

  • @josephastier7421
    @josephastier7421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:47 They tried to cut the engine block with their cutter? Who had THAT idea?

    • @user-mp9rd4hg8b
      @user-mp9rd4hg8b 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The foreman of the hacksaw team.

  • @DMWBN3
    @DMWBN3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's my local to new channel.
    Mind you I stopped watching tv 📺 2 years ago.
    Some insurance company has a big bill on this job.

    • @getin3949
      @getin3949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I stopped watching tv 4 years ago and haven't missed a thing.

  • @AluminumOxide
    @AluminumOxide 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the intro narrator is the same guy who voices Seconds From Disaster

  • @garman1966
    @garman1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not leave the stern section as an artificial reef? Was it too shallow and represented a navigation hazard?

  • @ceaserbriones5337
    @ceaserbriones5337 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awsome

  • @dinkchow
    @dinkchow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was the engine recovered???

  • @andrewbibby7060
    @andrewbibby7060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Iuv the shoes, as he guides 50 ton of steel to the ground. 🤔

  • @normanmcgill9532
    @normanmcgill9532 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who in the world financed this operation? Must have cost a fortune.
    They said it cost 150million pounds and that's a lot but I'm surprised it wasn't a whole lot more than that.

    • @Dave-id6sj
      @Dave-id6sj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Insurers like Lloyds or some other maritime agency.

    • @Dave-id6sj
      @Dave-id6sj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Nobody Nonperson bollocks, insurers and underwriters pay for these operations.

    • @Dave-id6sj
      @Dave-id6sj 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nobody Nonperson then why did you, the proper moron, say the British taxpayer paid for it? Following your logic it is the people who made the shit on the boat not the taxpayers? You fucking bell-end. Insurers and underwriters pay for all salvage, there's a saying better to be thought a fool, than open your mouth and confirm it, you've confirmed it.