Roger Federer Forehand Analysis Part 1
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In part 1 of our Roger Federer Forehand Analysis Video Series, we take a close look at Roger's forehand grip as well as the unit turn with which he initiates the backswing. Roger hits wit a conservative Eastern forehand grip, which has many advantages.
The unit turn is a turn of the entire body where the arms do very little. It is all about getting the body into position and the arms are simply along for the ride
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Hey Florian, I really like your instructional videos. I myself am a really huge fan of Roger Federer. This video made me understand how Federer can hit such a huge and effective forehand. Keep up the good work and I hope to hear from you more in the future! 🤜🏼🎾🤛🏼 ❤️
Unreal great work!!! Best Video about rogers technique I' ve seen! I will share it! Keep it up
superb lesson, very clear and easy to understand. put the tips to practice on the weekend and got great results. I tend to push the ball against slow serves, this help me to avoid that. thank you.
Awesome analysis it helped me so much on my forehand and the footage has great quality
Such cool video!!!! Federer es mi gallo, and watching him in slow motion, a close look to his grip, and his unit turn, is a delightful lesson!!!! Will watch it overand over to create the visual info in my brain, hehe
Thank you thank you!!!
Thank you for the interesting analysis. It was really helpful to understand the basics behind the best-looking, most effective and elegant groundstroke in the history of tennis. I'm just mesmerized by the fluidity of the movement. It is like a poetry in motion. Another sign of Maestro's genius...
This series of 3 videos about Roger's forehand is by far the best explanation of it I've ever seen! I especially liked your discussion of his grip, which I've heard mentioned many times as being an Eastern Forehand, but never heard the reason why. One thing you didn't mention, which I think is true, is that I've heard that Roger likes to take the ball early, which I think means that the ball is lower at ball contact, for which an Eastern Forehand grip is better (the semi-Western grip being better for high-bouncing balls, which happen more often now because there is more topspin used these days, resulting in players choosing the semi-Western Forehand grip over the Eastern grip).
Thaks a lot, man. I´m a tenist player of week end, I´m only amateur but your but your analysis of tennis helps me to improve my game at the club the weekends. I will continue watching your videos. thanks a lot against.
Thanks for the great analysis
Really really thankful to you sir
May god bless you
Fantabulous Florian !!
Good one !! Thank you !
Great job so far! I've recently committed to the eastern grip after years of trying to use the strong eastern grip and semi-western. If possible can you add your knowledge about the loading if the legs and hip? Can't wait for more!
great job
very interesting and informative-- thanks
Thanks a lot for this video !
instant subscribe, really nice analysis :)
good information. I knew as soon as you described the grip in relation to the knuckle of the index finger and heel pad, that you must be familiar with Vic Braden or Steve Smith
Great Video! Thank you!
Great analysis! Keep up the great work. Liked & Subscribed!
Same!
Excellent Thank you !
thanks for the video
Nice analysis.
Amazing how much his forehand improved from the Sampras imitating days of his yough.
This forehand is FAR superior, compact,. versatile, DANGEROUS!
StudyandTHink
V Helpful. Thank you Florian
Peter Hubner
Yes i needed this, ty m8
I like the way Mr. Federer is using his non hitting hand to assist in preparing his shoulder rotation. He lets his shoulder rotation forward bring his non hitting hand forward to help maintain his balance. Keeping the non hitting hand on the throat of the racket will help discipline his footwork. Well done! "THE TENNIS GUY!"
good stuff
great video TQ
Hi Florian. You always do a great analysis. Thanks. Can you possibly show if Roger's mechanics in dealing with high and heavy balls to the forehand are the same? Does he still do the same unit turn, racket drop below the hight of the ball and the wrist flex? Also what about his backhand and high balls? Thanks.
very nice buddy...well done
This help me make the tennis team today 🎾
great video key to a great forehand you hit across the body full back swing use the weight of your back leg to generate the power -your head must be in ronation where you intend to hit the ball like a golf shot
WOWZERS! I really like this explanation and I was wondering if I should swap back to the eastern grip. I'm only 5'6 but I used it for seven years when growing up and only a couple months ago switched to semiwestern. I can't get as much power or direction on the ball with semiwestern as I did with eastern. PLEASE HEPKL
Nice video. The truth is that there are many grip styles as there are players, each adding his own little twist, like NADAL who has a crazy follow through which NO other player has...a bizarre snap or twirl of the wrist behind his head at the end of his stroke.
It is gratifying to see that FEDERER, the greatest player of all time, plays with the same type of old fashioned CONSERVATIVE grip that most of us older players all were brought up to play with from the era of ROD LAVER and company.
It is a mystery to me how so many of the young players use that exaggerated western grip where their index knuckle is on bevel 4 or 5 and where their wrists seem to be turned upside down or inside out and to do that without breaking their wrist bones.
concise analysis
Could you please make a video teaching how to do drills on your own when we have no partner. That would be a great help. Thanks again for all your videos.
I think he features a lot of Ean Meyers videos. In those certain videos he sometimes explains how you can do this by yourself and feed yourself balls. I recently watched one video were he explained how to hit a great Drop Shot: ( th-cam.com/video/75M2o-QbMOQ/w-d-xo.html )! I watched a few others but can't remember them.
Hope I helped you out bud!
Roger’s swing is a thing of beauty
Great one. What is his grip between strokes? Is it a neutral continental grip?
Florian, it looks like your grip is more a mixed grip whereas Roger's looks like a pure Eastern forehand grip, where the points on the hand that you mentioned are on the side bevel.
Agree bro thanks
Hi florian, Great video, i was wondering about the forehand takeback. on the take back and unit turn. should i be trying to extend my right arm so my elbow is futher away from my body?
I feel as right now my turn and take back is too close to my body, i wonder what the effect of that would be on my forehand (power generation) technique etc.
Thanks!
Good stuff, Florian, as always! thanks
great job florian ,you are a great player and analyst,thanks
There is another important advantage of the eastern grip: you can hit with a straight arm, as roger does. and therefore you have more leverage and power. if you watch sinner or djokovic, who use semi-western, they hit with a semi-bent elbow, resulting in less leverage.
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@anton In that case, your interest lies outside the paradigm of technique coaching. Perhaps more in the area of feeling a certain way of hitting the ball and letting the technique develop around that? Interesting proposition.
You do a great job with this video like you do on all of your videos. Most people are visual learners. Consequently, your website is very valuable. I'd recommend it to anyone. Long-time high school tennis coach; Columbia, MO
Great footage! I don't like the phrase "less forward and more up". I think you mean, the trajectory of the swingpath is slightly steeper therefore imparting more topspin. To say otherwise would mean that he is shortening his stroke, which he very rarely does. His extension through the shot is a huge part of the reason for his ridiculous forehand. All the best ball strikers of all time have the same extension, Agassi, Nalbandian, Del Potro, Nadal, Djokovic, etc
you should get a tweener raquet preferably a wilson steam (not the weird 16/15 pattern unless you want lots of topspin) or a babolat with similar specs to Nadal's or even a head microgel midsize if you want more weight on the tip of the raquet.
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Hi man, I just started to play tennis now and I am an absolute beginner, could you held me with choising the right racket for me to study tennis lessons... Thanks
The eastern grip for a forehand...interesting...I'll try this.
Maybe I am mistaken but it looks like, in the very first example of your analysis, that Federer slightly adjust his grip towards bevel 4, hits, and then goes back to 3, like if it was a routine that goes always back to a central position. In my opinion to be equally far from his back and forehand position. What do you guys think? Just my imagination?
Does anyone know if thie can this be recreated in some way using a semi western grip? I've been wanting to improve my forehand and this seems like a good base for it!
I’ve never understood the high takeback on forehand. And the reason for incorporating that loop before acceleration. I know the concept behind it, as I’ve heard it explained before. But the only part of the forehand that matters is once you start your acceleration to the ball. And for best power and spin, the racket should start accelerating as low as nessecary, and string bed almost parallel to the ground, with a pronounced lag ( buttcap facing the ball). So, why not just start from this position. And lock into it from the beginning of stroke.
When I was little my dad taught me to use Djocovic grip but when I grow older I started to use Federer grip without knowing
Yes his grip is Eastern true but his physiology, flexibility, hand length and rigid arm extension allows him to contact the ball like a western forehand imparting spin naturally and giving him the wheelhouse he has. This will be able to be replicated by 1 out of 10,000 top pros. There are a lot of great takeaways however the replication of this forehand is a perfect storm. In my lifetime of playing at 5.0 and better tennis I have only seen 1 other forehand like this and it didn't belong to a pro. Junior kid from NJ this year. Breathtaking. Great vid though.
John Sutton III 5.0?
Oof
I'm a beginner. Does this comment mean we shouldn't try to replicate what he's doing here when learning then? Or?
@@DylBTay i have not met a local pro who recommends the Federer forehand; all recommends the bent arm, elbow leading forehand. "No patting the dog" whatsoever.
Federer BLX is a very hard racket... if u look for something with easyer control go Babbola.
sir , would you please do something like this video for P Sampras forehand too.....I personally believe Pete's forehand was THE best forehand of ALL time ., Nobody has done anything like that for his forehand....Your explanations are so clear and you are doing fantastic job..... I really appreciated what you have done for US . thank you
ampiciline petes forehand on the run yes. Not technically all time. His athleticism overcame a lot of his issues w forehand.
he sounds like the eastern grip is the best grip of all just because Federer using it?
Hence he finishes where he finishes, the finish with thr eastern grip is higher than where he finishes under the shoulder.
Wow
Nice video. Let's be like King
Cool
Mala traducción,dice left arm,y traducen brazo derecho, después el vídeo en inglés es muy claro e ilustrativo,
Not sure why people complain about Federer forehand grip explanation (most of them are probably the people who use semi-western I assume =) It's pretty obvious that RF uses more conservative grip than most guys on the tour. To me, this is the main reason why he can deal with fast balls or big serves better than more extreme grippers. Balls won't fly if you learn how to manage the racket face at the contact. I teach my kids with more conservative grip. Yes, you can hit a "modern forehand" with an eastern grip.
The video is titled "Roger Federer Forehand Analysis ". One expects to see what makes Feds forehand exceptional. Instead it points out its common threads with all decent forehands in the world, such as mine for example. It is as if you wanted to compare a tiger to a mouse, and started by saying that both have 4 legs and a tale.
I would have said semi-western grip. Footwork analysis??
Is Rogers forehand so good mainly because of the grip and technique? Could I have as good as a forehand but with a different grip or is the eastern grip such a big part of his forehand?
Terry Curve There are other players with amazing forehands who use different grips & technique, i.e. Nadal, Verdasco, Djokovic. Whatever your preference, the key is to make sure that your grip & swing work together to reliably and comfortably square the racket face to the ball.
Terry Curve Yes you definitely could! Grip is a long way down on the list of important factors for a great forehand, as long as you are somewhere between Roger's eastern and the more common semi-western. Many factors are more important, like swing rhythm, using your body efficiently through the swing, and accelerating the racket towards and through contact point.
His index finger knuckle is on 3, but his hand heel is between 3 and 4 which does not make it 100% eastern forehand grip.
I agree. Federer's grip looks to be a modified Eastern whereas Sampras' grip is a complete Eastern grip.
It’s not exactly a continental grip. I use the same grip you must bend the wrist creating a V shape with the racket and the arm racket face should be facing the ground before swing through and the left hand technique plus footwork are vital to hitting modern style forehand that he has. This isn’t jimmy connors forehand grip. It’s actually very unique.
WRONG HIS GRIP BETWEEN EAST AND SEMI- A NUMBER OF GOOD COACHES HAVE SPOTTED THIS - MAY EVEN VARY BUT DOES NOT MATTER THERE ARE GREAT F HANDS DIFFERENT GRIPS!!
If you are going to made a video of Roger Federer forehand , take an old video , where he made high preparation for his forehand stroke , he nearly fly in the air when he made that forehand , in this video You show a old Roger , with a low preparation in his forehand . Just take a moment and look and old video , when he was 22 years old and You will see the different .
I'm pretty sure he actually uses a grip halfway between Eastern and Semi Western. haha. I use that and I love it
I agree. I also think he varies it depending on the shot. Here's an example of him hitting an amazing continental topspin forehand (from 0:36 --watch the replay!): th-cam.com/video/oJtlc1gP7Fs/w-d-xo.html
I can´t agree. If it was so, there would be little difference between Fed´s forehand and, say, mine, since I also execute a unit turn and the other usual stuff. You could say of course that I don't execute them well enough. Then I would answer, "Define well enough". This definition would be less generic and much more useful. But to be completely honest, I question the "fundamentals" approach altogether.
i think in the other videos he does not do too much of wrist snap
hate to correct your english as a german but you only pronounce "the" as "thee" before a vocal sound, not before a consonant. "Thee angle" but "the corner", also "the unit turn"
That's not correct what you said about moving to your backhand grip from the modified eastern. The semi-western grip is in fact closer to the eastern backhand if you were to rotate the racquet counter-clockwise in your hand. The eastern forehand grip is actually the forehand grip farthest away from the backhand grip because it's halfway between the two potential eastern backhand grip spots.
Particularly on the return of serve where you want to hit with topspin on both the forehand and the backhand and switching grips wastes time, why switch grips? Just hit the ball on the same face of the racket for the forehand and the backhand. I believe that Kohlschrieber often does this on the return of serve with his one handed backhand and Nadal with his two handed backhand. Isn't that why they are holding the racket straight out in front of them (with the tip up) in the ready position?
I tried hard but never get it 🙁
it sometimes looks like federer double hits he ball slightly on his racket. hard to explain
I look at his foot work too all the time.....
Its all in the watch
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Federer in one interview said that he did not know what grip he uses. Enough said!
Hung Phan really? what interview is that?
Hung Phan Good point!
roter13 Most pro's wouldn't be able to tell you what grip they use on their shots without going out there, hitting the shot, and then seeing where their hand(s) are. Grips should be a personal preference based on comfort, as long as they are somewhere within an acceptable range. People obsess about having an exact grip way too much.
Agree Nick! Look at the pros, they always use left hand to turn the racket face. If you pay too much attention on your grip, you will be too tight and not flexible.
Bueno el video.....pero no pongas letras de subtítulos....NO SE VE NADA!!!!🤨🤨
I have no idea how roger keeps watching the ball onto the racquet. In slo motion other top players just don't do this the same way. I'd get a headache.
wrong , he use between continental grip and easter forehand grip , I use same grip for 10 years similar to Roger .
Nelson Gracia his grip is actually in between Easter and western but you clearly know ur stuff👍🏻
This is true for point play. But think of a single shot. If somebody feeds us balls both to me and to Federer he would still hit better although athleticism wouldn't be a factor. Sure, Federer can outrun me and has better hand eye coordination, but this is not our only difference. What remains is technique, and this should be explainable.
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Fed is not an eastern forehand but rather a semiwestern first tier!! To use the index knuckle as the basis for determining the grip is faulty at best!! We all come with different hand sizes and use different grip sizes according to preference so the only part of the hand that we can consistently relate to one another is the bridge between the thumb and the index finger!
Ever notice how fed keeps his eye on the ball long after he has hit it?
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Your grip is not his grip his is from knuckle to tip of ulna or paralleling our life line their miles different and his left arm is trying to get above the right and because the left collar bone is tilted that High has nothing to do with the base line in fact it’s right angle to ball flight that’s coming.
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Federer actually uses an extreme Eastern grip.
gumbo see my comment
he varies his grip. He can hit continental topspin forehands (see 0:36 to 0:50 in th-cam.com/video/oJtlc1gP7Fs/w-d-xo.html) but I'm told he also at times uses a semi-western grip.
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The Eastern grip is not very modern. It’s pretty old.