My favorite part in the game is during some early "dishonorable" stealth kills you can get a mini flash back followed by Jin saying "forgive me, uncle".
@@joenathan8059there was a point where I faced them all instead of poisoning them on one mission and it did nothing it still played as if I had poisoned them
actually Khan himself is deeper than you think, he isnt relatable or sympathetic, but actually reasonable he patiently offers a chance for Jin to surrender many times, even points out the benefits for the people of the island (which is surprisingly accurate, historically speaking)
@@Peasham only the leaders, Genghis Khan himself to be specific, he actually prefered less bloodshed and more diplomat you can read about Khwarezmia to see he tried to tolerant
Are you daft? He offers them a chance to surrender to slavery and you think that's a reasonable offer? You must have two brain cells or be a Mongol to take this asinine stance.
@@Peasham Reasonable doesn't mean they weren't ruthless. But Mongols didn't fight when they didn't have to. The original rulers of the lands tended to still be in control of local politics and decision making after too. Being part of the Mongol empire basically just meant "pay the military taxes or else I guess."
Kotal Khan is in my eyes a very good depicted villain: very good performance of a menacing threat. To the point of being one-dimensional: he is the one who offers peace for surrender again and again through out the game.
Jin gave ryuzo the same "honorable" death that his uncle asked for/got. If we take into account that a part of jin still very much believes in that specific honor code, or least sees value and meaning in it in certain instances (which he does), then he gave an honorable death to a man who has deeply betrayed him, and who had a direct hand in the brutal murder of an friend (taka). Like, jin would've been well within his rights to give him a "dishonorable" death, but he gave him the exact same treatment (down to he posture) that he gave his uncle if you chose that option.
The code of bushido also did not exist until 1900 and was retro actively applied to old samurai, the game takes place in 1257. They had to set it in this period because this is one of 2 times samurai were ever considered good guys. If anything they were more like knights. Rich bastards of nobles who tested their equipment on their servants.
And to be fair, the code of honor bullshit is basically stated to only be Shimura's thing, no other family follows his code, which could very well be considered historically plausible.
The code wasn't formalized and officially called Bushido until the 16the century, but it was around before then. The idea of it developed during the Kamakura period in the 1100s. Also GOT takes place during 1274.
Honestly I love sucker punch they are an underrated Sony studio and I went out of my way to 100% it even when I don't usually do side content in open world games can't wait to see what sucker punch does next
The best stories are the simple ones that are well executed. I do remember from an in-game letter that Khotun wants to conquer Japan in order to prove himself to be better than Kublai, the current ruler of the Mongol Empire empire and his cousin. It’s not much but it does give him enough depth so he isn’t a moustache twirling villain.
Ironically, my favorite character in this game is Khotun Khan, he is strategic and patient, when he killed adachi and taka, it's not purely out of cold blood and cruelty, it is strategic, the moment he killed adachi without honor, shimura charged head on without strategically thinking what to do next, and that's exactly what khotun wanted, he knows that by doing that, it will anger the samurai and can easily be baited. When he killed taka it is the same thing, it brings the emotions out of jin and I believe that's one of the major reasons why he completely embraced the ghost, and after that they had an internal conflict between the samurai, his uncle especially and the ghost, which means more exploits for the already weak presence of the samurai in the island, also he very diplomatic, he always say to jin and shimura about the unnecessary bloodshed just because they are too stubborn to surrender, he's brilliant and I respect him for that.
I get your point, but disagree. If he was that brilliant then he would've found a way to counter Jin and then defeat him. He ultimately had no plan for the Ghost and didn't adjust his strategy acoordingly. Him talking about the bloodshed is a bit ironic, since it was him and his army that was inflicting the bloodshed. If he truly studied the samurai, then he would know that they'd never surrender. So, him offering them that is a true sign of disrespect, not being a diplomat
That and Sly Cooper, both deserve a comeback but first Sucker Punch needs to make sure that they have a large fan base that'll justify any games they make
For me, Ryuzo's downfall was his jealousy of Jin and his position. Losing his straw hat followers, would mean "losing" to JIn. Plus, I think that they had a hand in turning Ryuzo after being fed by the Mongols.
This has nothing to do with the video but you can put it in a black and white filter that makes it reminiscent of the old samurai movies I forget the directors name though
Really complex and interesting story too Showing the samurai's other side than just good and heroic. Many dialogue speaks that jin father is Good though later we slowly get his bad evil side For a character that motivated our MC storyline. Its pretty epic
I found Khotun Khan a very interesting character very compelling. His interaction with Lord Shimura very interesting. He pays his respects but shows them how he learned about his enemies to defeat them.
Ok so I clicked this thinking that it was one of my buddy's videos, because he has the exact same pseudonym as you, and I'm glad I did because I was pleasently surprised by the quality of your video. Subbed and gonna watch some more of your stuff now!
Another great thing about ghost of tsushima is that there's no dissonance from your actions and the story, you are meant to be a sneaky bastard and use dirty tricks and the more you do it the more connected you feel with the story.
@@elharvey5032 ill have to look into that. I hope if a sequel is made that the studio keeps the exploration and draw of the first without a full repeat or harsh attempt to add "something new and quirky"
The opening minute of this video, I couldn't agree more with you. There is absolutely no way SP was forced to create this game. The detail, atmosphere, music, combat, traversal, mechanics, dynamic conversations depending on when you talk or what part of the story you're at... it's all just top notch and shows how much passion SP had for this project.
Ghost Of Tsushima is an all time best open world games ever made by western developers. Sucker Punch did an incredible job making this,and I can’t wait for the sequel.
I really love this video and I mostly agree with your takes buy my lord, your pronunciations of the names is killing me, especially having plaid it with Japanese audio 😂😂
@@JakenTheGreat sure, but at its core its about the (semi-fictional) code of honor samurai follow. Sekiro never had any qualms about how he does his work
Probably my favorite PS4 game from Playstation Studios. I enjoyed the world, story, characters, the stealth mechanics, combat. Also loved Samurai Jack as a kid so this was like a similator to me But Sly 2 is still my favorite Sucker Punch games.
I remember my uncle bought me this game 2 months after release I was interested in it but I didn’t have the money he bought it gave it to me and told me to try it out he said it was a great game so I played it and I was trying to skip cutscenes like I always do but I can’t so I’m stuck with the cutscenes and then I really get into the cutscenes and the story when I saw taka die I say out loud nooooooo which is rare for me to do and then the fight again the khan was full of vengeance for my boy but that’s far from the best fight in the end of the game I’m with lord shimura vibing and then the duel starts I was shocked and the fight challenged me because he really mixes up his attacks from lights to heavy’s and I was given 2 options kill or spare him I was split for 10 minutes I considered on one hand kill him and see jin break down from that or spare him which would most likely lead to sepuku I then decided to go for sparing lord shimura but I still felt like an asshole for sparing him this game is in my top 10 games ever which is a very big feat to make me love every aspect of the game
While the game was amazing i always felt like the whole becoming a ghost would've been more cooler if you could actually choose to remain a true samurai. The game doesn't give you choice. You have to be the ghost even though you could gamelplay wise beat it without using stealth or being dishonourable.
@@Peasham the game doesn't do a great job at showing that. Especially since you can choose not to use stealth or poison (except when the game forces you too) and you'll still be a ghost.
@@gamelove0169 The game doesn't do a good job at showing what? You'll still be the ghost because you're forced to be the ghost in order to progress the story. If you meant that it doesn't do a good job at showing honor being bullshit, the bit where Shimura's willing to send out thousands of civilians to die knowing they'd die just to uphold his honor should've clued you in.
@@Peasham I was lead to believe I could be honorable until the end of the game. When the uncle told me not to use the arrow things I tried not too. Then I realized and was kinda bummed out
I still want another Infamous game, but yeah, this was a good game on its own merits, even if there are a few...forced choices...I killed over 100 Monguls during the poison bit, but they will keep spawning from around where the milk is, it annoyed me, even if I understood WHY it needed to happen. Also wish the New Game + took you ALL the way back to the beginning, so you can fight Khan again on the bridge, and maybe even win there, before he cheats somehow, like ordering one of his men to hit you point blank with a Hwacha. Regardless, this game is fantastic, the DLC is one of the finest ever made in terms of content within, expanding the characters, and playing with the setting(Even if the cross over armors are all fugly as heck), and while I really did want some final big lore breaking cool upgrade, I'm fine with infinite smoke bombs and tearing through these dogs.
This game was so awesome the only problem I had was legends of tsushima just being a fake story told by a blind man I would've enjoyed a what if game mode on ancient warriors facing a female oni
This is just sad bro lol. Tsushima is a great game and it's a shame it took something so petty to pull you in. Tlou2 isn't even a bad game, though it does have many issues we're all aware of. I'm glad this game was still a success despite getting caught in the crossfire of woke media and spiteful gamers. Just sucks that we can't even appreciate the work put into this without someone bringing up TLOU2. Everyone is sick of politics, but chose to politicize Tsushima. Make it make sense 🤣
I did not give a fuck about the horse dude mostly just a few repeat cutscenes that would visually teleport to you if you just a lil too far and would come from different direction... in rdr2 you gotta wait for the lil shit to run to you or go find him had you gone way too far since he can't hear you, also the brushing feeding and juicing
@@Marshal-143 nah you both are boring and need to play more games. - Combat was entertaining until act 2 onwards, then it became repetitive - All of the cutscenes are stiff, and the voice acting is kh3-level bad - No memorable OST's - Apart from Shimura, there are no interesting characters - Side missions are a chore to complete - Only the first and last main missions are interesting I've played these types of games thousands of times and they need to die already, e.g Horizon Zero Dawn and Ubisoft AC games. I'm surprised Sucker Punch made this game because it's terrible in comparison to the Sly trilogy and infamous.
Life is not grey. If that were true, there would be no justice system and relativity would have existed from the dawn of time. The path to the results of our actions are never clear to most, and can take many turns, but the results will either be good or bad. Positive or negative. There is no such thing as actions having no consequence unless it doesn't involve you, but even as a society the actions of some can effect the whole depending on severity. The moral ambiguity mindset has led to more problems than solutions. One can steal bread to feed their family, but doesn't make their actions right. A judge, King or whatever authority can show mercy or not, but that is not "grey". Having complex emotions or making contrary decisions is just that, but most times personal choices are made or those that benefit the individual, if one wants to call that grey when a clear moral choice could be made.
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My favorite part in the game is during some early "dishonorable" stealth kills you can get a mini flash back followed by Jin saying "forgive me, uncle".
@@gamelove0169 unfortunately no,also your forced to do stealth kills and use poison anyway
@@joenathan8059there was a point where I faced them all instead of poisoning them on one mission and it did nothing it still played as if I had poisoned them
actually Khan himself is deeper than you think, he isnt relatable or sympathetic, but actually reasonable
he patiently offers a chance for Jin to surrender many times, even points out the benefits for the people of the island (which is surprisingly accurate, historically speaking)
I've never seen any historical evidence of mongols being reasonable and patient when it came to conquering.
@@Peasham only the leaders, Genghis Khan himself to be specific, he actually prefered less bloodshed and more diplomat
you can read about Khwarezmia to see he tried to tolerant
Are you daft? He offers them a chance to surrender to slavery and you think that's a reasonable offer? You must have two brain cells or be a Mongol to take this asinine stance.
@@Peasham Reasonable doesn't mean they weren't ruthless. But Mongols didn't fight when they didn't have to. The original rulers of the lands tended to still be in control of local politics and decision making after too. Being part of the Mongol empire basically just meant "pay the military taxes or else I guess."
Mongols be like:
"If you submit we'll treat you 🌈🌈🐶🐶!"
"If not...*genocidal noises*"
Lord Shimura burning that letter hit me more than I expected.
Kotal Khan is in my eyes a very good depicted villain: very good performance of a menacing threat. To the point of being one-dimensional: he is the one who offers peace for surrender again and again through out the game.
You mean Khotun Khan?
Kotal Khan is a Mortal Kombat character
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😂😂😂😂, we should talk about Mortal Kombat here
Freudian Lapsus !!!
I was confused for a second. I was like "I thought Kotal Kahn was the Mortal Kombat character" I thought I was tripping
Jin gave ryuzo the same "honorable" death that his uncle asked for/got. If we take into account that a part of jin still very much believes in that specific honor code, or least sees value and meaning in it in certain instances (which he does), then he gave an honorable death to a man who has deeply betrayed him, and who had a direct hand in the brutal murder of an friend (taka). Like, jin would've been well within his rights to give him a "dishonorable" death, but he gave him the exact same treatment (down to he posture) that he gave his uncle if you chose that option.
The code of bushido also did not exist until 1900 and was retro actively applied to old samurai, the game takes place in 1257. They had to set it in this period because this is one of 2 times samurai were ever considered good guys. If anything they were more like knights. Rich bastards of nobles who tested their equipment on their servants.
And to be fair, the code of honor bullshit is basically stated to only be Shimura's thing, no other family follows his code, which could very well be considered historically plausible.
The code wasn't formalized and officially called Bushido until the 16the century, but it was around before then. The idea of it developed during the Kamakura period in the 1100s.
Also GOT takes place during 1274.
What was the second time
Honestly I love sucker punch they are an underrated Sony studio and I went out of my way to 100% it even when I don't usually do side content in open world games can't wait to see what sucker punch does next
What an incredible game. Hope to see what the future has for Sucker Punch
The best stories are the simple ones that are well executed.
I do remember from an in-game letter that Khotun wants to conquer Japan in order to prove himself to be better than Kublai, the current ruler of the Mongol Empire empire and his cousin.
It’s not much but it does give him enough depth so he isn’t a moustache twirling villain.
Ironically, my favorite character in this game is Khotun Khan, he is strategic and patient, when he killed adachi and taka, it's not purely out of cold blood and cruelty, it is strategic, the moment he killed adachi without honor, shimura charged head on without strategically thinking what to do next, and that's exactly what khotun wanted, he knows that by doing that, it will anger the samurai and can easily be baited. When he killed taka it is the same thing, it brings the emotions out of jin and I believe that's one of the major reasons why he completely embraced the ghost, and after that they had an internal conflict between the samurai, his uncle especially and the ghost, which means more exploits for the already weak presence of the samurai in the island, also he very diplomatic, he always say to jin and shimura about the unnecessary bloodshed just because they are too stubborn to surrender, he's brilliant and I respect him for that.
I get your point, but disagree. If he was that brilliant then he would've found a way to counter Jin and then defeat him. He ultimately had no plan for the Ghost and didn't adjust his strategy acoordingly. Him talking about the bloodshed is a bit ironic, since it was him and his army that was inflicting the bloodshed. If he truly studied the samurai, then he would know that they'd never surrender. So, him offering them that is a true sign of disrespect, not being a diplomat
One of my favorite creators doing a video on my favorite game? Wasn't expecting that when I woke up this morning.
While I am excited for Tsushima 2 what I really want is another infamous game from sucker punch imagine what it would look like on PS5
That and Sly Cooper, both deserve a comeback but first Sucker Punch needs to make sure that they have a large fan base that'll justify any games they make
For me, Ryuzo's downfall was his jealousy of Jin and his position. Losing his straw hat followers, would mean "losing" to JIn. Plus, I think that they had a hand in turning Ryuzo after being fed by the Mongols.
This has nothing to do with the video but you can put it in a black and white filter that makes it reminiscent of the old samurai movies I forget the directors name though
Akira Kurosawa
This was a great breakdown! I enjoy seeing other people's interpretations/impressions of the game. I hope you also check out the Iki Island DLC too.
Really complex and interesting story too
Showing the samurai's other side than just good and heroic. Many dialogue speaks that jin father is Good though later we slowly get his bad evil side
For a character that motivated our MC storyline. Its pretty epic
I found Khotun Khan a very interesting character very compelling. His interaction with Lord Shimura very interesting. He pays his respects but shows them how he learned about his enemies to defeat them.
His constantly disrespects them by asking them to go against their code.
Ok so I clicked this thinking that it was one of my buddy's videos, because he has the exact same pseudonym as you, and I'm glad I did because I was pleasently surprised by the quality of your video. Subbed and gonna watch some more of your stuff now!
Another great thing about ghost of tsushima is that there's no dissonance from your actions and the story, you are meant to be a sneaky bastard and use dirty tricks and the more you do it the more connected you feel with the story.
I'm really hoping Sucker Punch will make Ghost of Tsushima/Jin's story a trilogy
Where would they take the story without milking it?
They most likely are making a sequel considering Ghost of Tsushima is Sucker Punch's most successful game that gave them the recognition they deserve
@@tyrantm7 Well the second Mongolian invasion of Japan is where they'll likely go next
@@elharvey5032 ill have to look into that. I hope if a sequel is made that the studio keeps the exploration and draw of the first without a full repeat or harsh attempt to add "something new and quirky"
Sadly they aren't
The opening minute of this video, I couldn't agree more with you. There is absolutely no way SP was forced to create this game. The detail, atmosphere, music, combat, traversal, mechanics, dynamic conversations depending on when you talk or what part of the story you're at... it's all just top notch and shows how much passion SP had for this project.
Plan on getting to this game sometime soon so I’ll hold off watching. But I did want to leave my support to the channel with a like/comment!
Ghost Of Tsushima is an all time best open world games ever made by western developers. Sucker Punch did an incredible job making this,and I can’t wait for the sequel.
I really love this video and I mostly agree with your takes buy my lord, your pronunciations of the names is killing me, especially having plaid it with Japanese audio 😂😂
1274 was 749 years ago.
It tells a very good story better than most Japanese games but the lack of samurai games saddens me
I thought sekiro dies twice was a samurai game
@@raptorskilltor4554 it really isn't
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It's a Shinobi/Ninja game more than anything
@@asepfaisal856 You could argue that Ghost is also a Shinobi game.
@@JakenTheGreat sure, but at its core its about the (semi-fictional) code of honor samurai follow. Sekiro never had any qualms about how he does his work
Probably my favorite PS4 game from Playstation Studios.
I enjoyed the world, story, characters, the stealth mechanics, combat.
Also loved Samurai Jack as a kid so this was like a similator to me
But Sly 2 is still my favorite Sucker Punch games.
You have a gorgeous and deep, booming voice :)
Just like Sly Cooper. 😏
I need to replay this game
Am I the only one who thinks the main villain looks like DSP?
Ahhh holy shit your right
These past few days I’ve been watching a ton of GoT videos, because I wanna buy it, seeing this pop up was a nice surprise!
If you lived near me I’d give it to ya great game
@@JimmyThree-Balls haha, thanks. I’ve recently applied for a job, if I get it, me and my dad will talk/negotiate if I’m allowed to buy the game
I remember my uncle bought me this game 2 months after release I was interested in it but I didn’t have the money he bought it gave it to me and told me to try it out he said it was a great game so I played it and I was trying to skip cutscenes like I always do but I can’t so I’m stuck with the cutscenes and then I really get into the cutscenes and the story when I saw taka die I say out loud nooooooo which is rare for me to do and then the fight again the khan was full of vengeance for my boy but that’s far from the best fight in the end of the game I’m with lord shimura vibing and then the duel starts I was shocked and the fight challenged me because he really mixes up his attacks from lights to heavy’s and I was given 2 options kill or spare him I was split for 10 minutes I considered on one hand kill him and see jin break down from that or spare him which would most likely lead to sepuku I then decided to go for sparing lord shimura but I still felt like an asshole for sparing him this game is in my top 10 games ever which is a very big feat to make me love every aspect of the game
Well thought of explanation to one of my favourite games... thank you 👍
During the 3rd act i was kinda convincerd that jin was the catalyst for ninjitsu .
It's almost impressive how some of the general audience seems to have missed the point that honor is bullshit in this game.
Another solid video man!
While the game was amazing i always felt like the whole becoming a ghost would've been more cooler if you could actually choose to remain a true samurai. The game doesn't give you choice. You have to be the ghost even though you could gamelplay wise beat it without using stealth or being dishonourable.
Yep, cuz the point of the game is that "honor" is bullshit. Showing honor win would've completely undermined that message.
@@Peasham the game doesn't do a great job at showing that. Especially since you can choose not to use stealth or poison (except when the game forces you too) and you'll still be a ghost.
Meanwhile there is a mission with Yuna about beheading 3 slave farm owners
@@gamelove0169 The game doesn't do a good job at showing what? You'll still be the ghost because you're forced to be the ghost in order to progress the story.
If you meant that it doesn't do a good job at showing honor being bullshit, the bit where Shimura's willing to send out thousands of civilians to die knowing they'd die just to uphold his honor should've clued you in.
@@Peasham I was lead to believe I could be honorable until the end of the game. When the uncle told me not to use the arrow things I tried not too. Then I realized and was kinda bummed out
Great video as always
In the dlc you can get krato tattoo as your armor
Yuma’s not really a love interest, there connection is more one of close friends and survivors
I still want another Infamous game, but yeah, this was a good game on its own merits, even if there are a few...forced choices...I killed over 100 Monguls during the poison bit, but they will keep spawning from around where the milk is, it annoyed me, even if I understood WHY it needed to happen.
Also wish the New Game + took you ALL the way back to the beginning, so you can fight Khan again on the bridge, and maybe even win there, before he cheats somehow, like ordering one of his men to hit you point blank with a Hwacha.
Regardless, this game is fantastic, the DLC is one of the finest ever made in terms of content within, expanding the characters, and playing with the setting(Even if the cross over armors are all fugly as heck), and while I really did want some final big lore breaking cool upgrade, I'm fine with infinite smoke bombs and tearing through these dogs.
Stealth drop
Which is funny because it wasn't supposed to be
This game was so awesome the only problem I had was legends of tsushima just being a fake story told by a blind man I would've enjoyed a what if game mode on ancient warriors facing a female oni
Infamous 2 is my favorite game of all time.
Uncle Shimura is the goat
Red dead 2 had good horse moments
Infamous 2........
Nice, but infamous 2 probably wouldn't get spot on my list of top 20 and/or 10.
noice
I only bought this game to protest Last of Us 2. Turned out to be a damn good one fortunately
This is just sad bro lol. Tsushima is a great game and it's a shame it took something so petty to pull you in. Tlou2 isn't even a bad game, though it does have many issues we're all aware of.
I'm glad this game was still a success despite getting caught in the crossfire of woke media and spiteful gamers. Just sucks that we can't even appreciate the work put into this without someone bringing up TLOU2. Everyone is sick of politics, but chose to politicize Tsushima. Make it make sense 🤣
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I did not give a fuck about the horse dude mostly just a few repeat cutscenes that would visually teleport to you if you just a lil too far and would come from different direction... in rdr2 you gotta wait for the lil shit to run to you or go find him had you gone way too far since he can't hear you, also the brushing feeding and juicing
nah, you better be critical of this game. It was doo doo, infamous was better.
Were you playing an entirely different game? lol it's a masterpiece I do think infamous 2 is a bit stronger though
Are you high? There's nothing wrong with preferring Infamous over this, but ur outta ur damn mind if you think this game is bad
@@Marshal-143 nah you both are boring and need to play more games.
- Combat was entertaining until act 2 onwards, then it became repetitive
- All of the cutscenes are stiff, and the voice acting is kh3-level bad
- No memorable OST's
- Apart from Shimura, there are no interesting characters
- Side missions are a chore to complete
- Only the first and last main missions are interesting
I've played these types of games thousands of times and they need to die already, e.g Horizon Zero Dawn and Ubisoft AC games. I'm surprised Sucker Punch made this game because it's terrible in comparison to the Sly trilogy and infamous.
@@therenegadegamer7422 yikes, masterpiece yeah lool
@Tapz0 "YOu NeEd tO PLaY MoRE GAmEs" oh stfu. This game was great and it deserved the acclaim it got from both critics and fans
Life is not grey. If that were true, there would be no justice system and relativity would have existed from the dawn of time. The path to the results of our actions are never clear to most, and can take many turns, but the results will either be good or bad. Positive or negative. There is no such thing as actions having no consequence unless it doesn't involve you, but even as a society the actions of some can effect the whole depending on severity. The moral ambiguity mindset has led to more problems than solutions.
One can steal bread to feed their family, but doesn't make their actions right. A judge, King or whatever authority can show mercy or not, but that is not "grey". Having complex emotions or making contrary decisions is just that, but most times personal choices are made or those that benefit the individual, if one wants to call that grey when a clear moral choice could be made.