Was Ryuzo's Betrayal JUST To Feed His Starving Men? | Ghost Of Tsushima

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  • Ryuzo and the straw hat ronin Ghost of tsushima. Ryuzo was tricked big time by Kotun Khan in ghost of tsushima into betraying Jin Sakai and leading the straw hat ronin down a path that made them just as big of enemies of the state as the mongol invaders.
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  • @CynicGTA
    @CynicGTA  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +216

    Should we continue with more Ghost of Tsushima videos? Maybe an in depth exploration of the Yarikawa Rebellion next?

    • @edekblady302
      @edekblady302 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Hell yeah we should.

    • @kainfloyd
      @kainfloyd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Yes, more Ghost of Tsushima.

    • @Ripmatthews
      @Ripmatthews 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes!

    • @jayssonjefferson4389
      @jayssonjefferson4389 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Fs

    • @kratos57
      @kratos57 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      yes

  • @airgo24dlamini37
    @airgo24dlamini37 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +572

    Jin; How could you betray me Ryuzo??
    Ryuzo; Man i aint ate in a week

    • @BlackMarvel25
      @BlackMarvel25 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      That's the thing there too. How was Jin eating?

    • @airgo24dlamini37
      @airgo24dlamini37 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      @@BlackMarvel25 Plot food

    • @BlackMarvel25
      @BlackMarvel25 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @airgo24dlamini37 I know he was hunting out there, so maybe that's what was happening for him to eat.

    • @krombopulosmicheal2436
      @krombopulosmicheal2436 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      @@BlackMarvel25 In a lot of cutscenes after you clear mission or bases jin is beside his horse eating bread or drinking water or sake from i guess the villagers he saved and gited him food. During the kenji missions he eating and drinking as well.

    • @onelmediaph
      @onelmediaph 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@BlackMarvel25 he is the ghost, ghosts doesn't eat

  • @DarkSeraph95
    @DarkSeraph95 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +638

    I think he's a coward. the second he realized Jin won he tried to crawl back to him like nothing happened

    • @Katokhann
      @Katokhann 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +158

      agreed. Dude had some sympathy from me up to that point. But when he tried to pull that "Just say i was your spy so i can rejoin you guys" i was locked in, ready to take his head

    • @ntfoperative9432
      @ntfoperative9432 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

      @@Katokhannwith that line he proved he had no loyalty, to anyone. What was to stop him from betraying us again? And again, and again

    • @the_jingo
      @the_jingo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Simply an opportunist

    • @BasedR0nin
      @BasedR0nin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@the_jingolike Yabushige

    • @ajizel13
      @ajizel13 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What really segments that moment was thinking back to when he first turn coated....
      Me: BITCH I OFFERED YOU A CHANCE TO JOIN US WHEN WE SAVED MY UNCLE!!! AND YOU DIDN'T WANNA FIGHT THEN, BUT NOW YOU WANNA FIGHT BY MY SIDE!?!?!
      FUCK OUTTA HERE

  • @bloodrosereaper2099
    @bloodrosereaper2099 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +205

    Ryuzo is what happens when one gives up honor to save your own ass.
    Lord Shimura is what happens when you cling to honor even as everything burns around you.
    Jin is the only example of letting honor go for the right reasons and having to live with. In a way, both his uncle and best friend are broken mirrors of what Jin is going through as the story goes on. Twisted reflections of Jin's inner struggle playing out in front of him.

    • @ASRComp12
      @ASRComp12 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      It also goes the same with lord shimira and Kazumasa instead

    • @stubaccount
      @stubaccount หลายเดือนก่อน

      you're 100% a 12 year old

    • @jeangentry6656
      @jeangentry6656 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Indeed. Ryuzo and Lord Shimura are two sides of the same coin. Ryuzo cares for his men but his merc like tendencies put both himself and his men in the service of a Cruel leader and invader. Lord Shimura's adherence to honor is admirable, until it makes him an ineffective leader who doesn't care that his men will die because he's more concerned with fighting with honor than actually winning the battle.
      If you stand for nothing you'll fall for anything, yet at the same time if you rigidly hold on to an archaic belief of how things "should" be, you'll lose everything you're trying to protect.

  • @griz312
    @griz312 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +310

    Short answer, No. Ryuzo just used “feeding his men” as a scape goat but secretly resented Jin. Through out the game his men were taking part in pillaging the island of its own occupants and was really protecting his own skin from the mongols.

    • @Mukation
      @Mukation 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      Exactly, he showed clear signs of resentment of Jin early on, he had a chip on his shoulder regarding him and the fact that Jin, despite being beaten, broken etc, still kept his honor clearly just infuriated Ryuzo too, because i bet he had always thought Jin was just a spoiled kid who would brake in the "real" world.

    • @Maverex_
      @Maverex_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah since the Mongols fed his men then the food problem shouldn’t be an issue anymore. They could have just raided where they were being held for food

    • @stubbornpotatogaming6220
      @stubbornpotatogaming6220 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      To add a layer, this resentment of Jin is also a good enforcement as to why Ryuzo didn't become a Samurai. He believes that his self-righteousness is more fitting of a samurai than Jin. He may believes that having alliance with the Mongols is much better for the straw hat ronin (his visioned clan) to survive. It is a good reflection as what if Ryuzo became a Samurai have his own clan. He may as well form allegiance with the Mongol for his own clan rather than fighting the Mongols with other clans.

  • @Skeletongentleman7808
    @Skeletongentleman7808 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +269

    I found some humor in them having Kazya Nakai, Zoro’s Japanese voice actor from the One Piece anime and Jin’s voice actor as well, fight against the Strawhats in the game

    • @dunklesans2174
      @dunklesans2174 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      I thought it was impossible, but you just made this game even better for me.

    • @charlesbronson2926
      @charlesbronson2926 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      But also zoros voice actor joined the strawman crew for a mission

    • @theZackHolmes
      @theZackHolmes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@charlesbronson2926 Sure, who wiped them out in the end though?

    • @BasedR0nin
      @BasedR0nin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He also plays Mugen

    • @alexandermaxcanjuga3368
      @alexandermaxcanjuga3368 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@charlesbronson292610/10 game right there

  • @idolsrule4678
    @idolsrule4678 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    If you really think about it,
    Ryuzo is what the Shogun thinks Jin became.

  • @petermaguire8139
    @petermaguire8139 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +127

    Imo, ego was the main reason for Ryuzo's actions, with the circumstances being an excuse (maybe unconsciously, however) used to justify his decisions - not that he didn't care for the Straw Hats, or want to spare innocent lives, but they were at least secondary to his insecurity in regards to Jin, and this inferiority complex was likely what prevented him from acting or speaking up against the Khan's atrocities despite being genuinely horrified at them.

  • @AZ_PlayZz
    @AZ_PlayZz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

    4:00 lmao that horse cut the tension like a hot knife through butter

    • @CynicGTA
      @CynicGTA  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Yea…just…yea. Cant do nothing but laugh about it. Just a big ass horse head right in Ryuzo’s face

    • @MrKiddoTv
      @MrKiddoTv หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      nah he’s talking to the horse

  • @kaydens6964
    @kaydens6964 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Ryuzo has a very good point about the samurai, Shimura would just send them to die through front gate lol

  • @mr.magnetic8884
    @mr.magnetic8884 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

    I believe a persons true intentions dictate their character and mentality. Jin Sakai became a samurai simply because as we see in the game, he wasn’t after personal gain or fame and he understood the life risk behind the title of samurai and he was willing to sacrifice in order to protect the people of tsushima. Ryuzo on the other hand even said he wanted to prove himself and wanted people’s admiration. In essence he didn’t have a reason of his own to become a samurai except the approval of the elders and the people of tsushima. Hence why he is afraid of death even though thats the job of a samurai: to live and fight and potentially die for the the people he swore to protect. Jin understood that, Ryuzo didn’t. Hence why Ryuzo was so weak.

    • @mattweich5001
      @mattweich5001 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Exactly! That’s also why Jin went all out in the tournament while Ryuzo was looking for a handout. Jin understood that being a samurai meant devoting his life to their people. Ryuzo, when it came down to it, served himself. He was never fit to become a samurai

    • @Suksass
      @Suksass 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is rather romantized outlook on samurai.​@@mattweich5001

  • @Bigback_Morgan
    @Bigback_Morgan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    He’s a coward on the side of the more powerful man, as soon as he realized the Kahn wouldn’t win, he tried to win back Jin

  • @stilltoonormal8985
    @stilltoonormal8985 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    Yes ghost of tsushima is a great game and I feel like there is so much more content to explore and it's surprising nobody will at least very few are covering this game so I'll be down to see more of this game cuz I love how you handle Red Dead redemption

    • @CynicGTA
      @CynicGTA  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Aye thank you. Honestly, this last run of the game has gotten me really interested in the world and how some of these stories are told. Dont mean to knock the praise the games art direction gets because its definitely deserved. But man, it really overshadows a lot of other things going on in the game

    • @internetexplorer6752
      @internetexplorer6752 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ^^^ “THATS CALLED MF BARS (word I cannot say)”!!!!

  • @DerekAdrian-cp2dq
    @DerekAdrian-cp2dq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I wish they had shown more child Ryuzo interaction with Jin during childhood to see how he was like. All we got is that Shimura called him "demon child" and that Ryuzo though that Shimura would get rid of Jin to start his own family (which in the end, he was right)

    • @iamdivan7368
      @iamdivan7368 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Saying that Ryuzo was right there is like saying that your highschool bully was right by calling you ugly because years later you've gotten into a car accident and got half your face torn off

  • @KicktheSky34
    @KicktheSky34 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

    I was truly impressed in the way in which the game subtly told the player, long before the big twist, that Ryuzo is a horse's ass.

    • @LinayatIlyas
      @LinayatIlyas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lol how

    • @alexandermagnus82
      @alexandermagnus82 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      ​@LinayatIlyas I think the way he resents Jin as an adult for that tournament in their youth. Sure, it was impactful but the better swordsman won...he expected Jin to go easy on him and blamed his poor performance on others instead of taking responsibility.

    • @cameronnovy3718
      @cameronnovy3718 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@alexandermagnus82The tournament was only “two summers ago..”, they were already grown men by that point.

    • @alexandermagnus82
      @alexandermagnus82 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @cameronnovy3718 Lol yeah that makes it even worse.

    • @convictgames3895
      @convictgames3895 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@alexandermagnus82 I don't think that's necessarily fair his resentment stems from his best friend the most privileged man on the isle taking his chance when Jin had no need of it I think it would've be less so if they both fought for the chance to be samurai

  • @Mukation
    @Mukation 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    To me it was quite evident that Ryuzo always had a chip on his shoulder regarding Jin and seeing Jin so "low", but still upholding his sense of honor probably broke him, since i feel that he most likley always thought Jin would be "just like him" if he had been in his shoes, which we evidently see is not true.
    Now as to why Ryuzo would still be a Ronin when he is litterally best friends with the heir to the local Daimyo is however a bit unbelievable.

    • @jorgebersabe293
      @jorgebersabe293 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That has an easy answer: pride. If Ryuzo only asked Jin a job to become his retainer, he perhaps would have been gifted the chance to be a samurai and his own clan for services rendered. But because Ryuzo lacked confidence on himself, he didn't.

    • @meatyfetus8947
      @meatyfetus8947 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      in one of the conversations Jin asks Ryuzo why he didn't ask him for a job and he basically said it was a pride thing

  • @IoannesPetrvs
    @IoannesPetrvs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    I started to play Ghost of Tsushima a few days ago, and i i'm in love with this game. Also, a little bit anger because... Why so few people talk about this game?

    • @jamesbrown6994
      @jamesbrown6994 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Would you believe me if I told you the last of us 2 won game of the year over this one

    • @Hyenatempest
      @Hyenatempest 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@jamesbrown6994 what a waste of an award

    • @jamesbrown6994
      @jamesbrown6994 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @Hyenatempest yeah, but hey, at least it won player's choice

    • @tylerwilson3507
      @tylerwilson3507 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@jamesbrown6994 I'll be honest, the whole "game of the year" title kinda lost its prestige for me when there have been other gaming award shows that has its own game of the year. Plus there have been games that either didn't win or was even nominated that released a "game of the year" edition.

    • @Suksass
      @Suksass 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Why so few people talk about a 4 year old game?
      Maybe due to the fact that it's old and largely irrelevant at this point.

  • @himehomemi5642
    @himehomemi5642 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Perfectly put. If Ryuzo was truly was of Samurai caliber he would have put everything, even his own mens lives to the defence of Tsushima. In game, Ryuzo only talks about the good parts of being a samurai like having his own clan or living more luxuriously. He never considers the sacrifices that samurai must make like the intro battle at the beach.
    Rather than hate on Jin he should have seen the invasion of Tsushima as his 2nd chance at even greater glory. Who cares about a tournament for kids when you have the chance to be an even greater hero by fighting the Mongols. He should have been thanking Jin since if he had gone down that path and become samurai, he would have died just like the rest of the samurai that day.

  • @gregoryaguon1925
    @gregoryaguon1925 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I was really understanding of Riouzo until he pleaded with Jin to take him back and say he was just a spy. After everything he did, naw man its time lol

  • @mozuesolympian2988
    @mozuesolympian2988 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Ryuzo changes sides like I change socks.

    • @bubblemonkeys
      @bubblemonkeys หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jin changes sides like I change socks

  • @billjoe8734
    @billjoe8734 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I find Ryuzo to be a sort of mirror to Jin, both abandon all they know, and betray those they love, in order to try and do right by those dependent on them.

    • @jorgebersabe293
      @jorgebersabe293 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ryuzo is a dark reflection of Jin. The only difference is that when the chips are down, Ryuzo will always choose himself.

  • @Patcheoli
    @Patcheoli 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I've always thought that Jin and Ryuzo are the two sides of the same coin. Both represent self-sacrifice (Shimura represents the opposite and rather would sacrifice others). The difference between them is ego. Jin let everything he knew go, even a life of riches just to save his home while Ryuzo through his ego can't let another man save his men.

  • @tamimtio3052
    @tamimtio3052 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A detail I do not know if many people noticed, in their second duel Ryuzo threw away his scabbard before the duel started, which in Japanese culture means he did not expect to come back alive
    He already knew he was dead as soon as Jin walked in, refusing to fight him at first making one final plea to live, and then just accepting his fate, because no matter who he went to whether it was the Khan or the Samurai, he was dead, and rather die by Jin’s hand than Shimura’s as he said himself

  • @RomanHistoryFan476AD
    @RomanHistoryFan476AD 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I honestly think it all comes down to Ryuzo being jealous of Jin. And deep down he is a coward and a traitor, he blames Jin for cutting down his 'family', his straw hats, but these same Straw Hats though: are found patrolling the island and will attack Jin on sight, found alongside the Mongols committing horrible crimes upon the populace and even enjoying it as well. Ryuzo did not mind turning a blind eye to his Men doing this though. So in reality the only person who got The Straw hats killed was Ryuzo, he got his men killed by letting them be used as extra muscle for the Khan's army.

    • @jamesbrown6994
      @jamesbrown6994 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think he knew that but was just coping

    • @RomanHistoryFan476AD
      @RomanHistoryFan476AD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jamesbrown6994 I find a bit odd that Jin never mentions that to him.

    • @jamesbrown6994
      @jamesbrown6994 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@RomanHistoryFan476AD yeah, but I'm sure at the time he was more pissed about taka

    • @madsorcery
      @madsorcery 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah it was all probably for a grudge against Jin. the fact that Ryuzo couldn’t get to be a samurai while Jin did, that, and the duel that Jin won against him when they were young. Ryuzo says in one of the dialogues that he kept getting bullied and humiliated by the samurai when he lost that duel. it’s really not hard to figure out his betrayal was based purely on jealousy and grudge.

    • @RomanHistoryFan476AD
      @RomanHistoryFan476AD 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@madsorcery It was always about that. Ryuzo can go on about his men starving and how Jin fought too hard in the contest.
      But at the end of the day Jin was doing his best in the contest, he would have gotten his friend a good position if just asked. But Ryuzo never asked him or even told Jin before the competition he needed to win the duel or at least look like he was able to hold his own in a duel and be a great warrior.
      Ryuzo like I said in my first comment, Ryuzo never stopped his men from harassing the locals either, his men are seen working with Mongols on raids and mistreating the civilians and taking joyous part in war crimes.

  • @Freyafanboy90
    @Freyafanboy90 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ryuzo's own pride was his downfall I believe. The contest set 2 years before the game saw Ryuzo's pride hurt when he lost to Jin. The Strawhats were his own group and thus he had a sense of pride that he had a "clan" so to speak, even though they were Ronin. He didn't go to Lord Shimura or even heed Jin's advice because he believed the Strawhats would weather whatever storm and remain on top. He, as the leader, wanted to find the food for his men. His pride wouldn't allow him to take advice from Jin as that would hurt his bruised ego. I believe that Ryuzo sided his men with the Mongols as a way of saying, look I have found food and a strong ally. His pride stopped him from accepting Jin's help as he saw Jin as the reason for his hurt pride. Ryuzo picked his pride and the men he had formed under everyone else on Tsushima island and as such it lead to his men getting slaughtered. Ryuzo let his pride and ego blind him. If he had been more humble like Jin and swallowed his pride he would've got what he wanted, being a samurai and maybe the Strawhats being a real clan but he was blinded by his pride and his ego and it ultimately cost him his life. A sad end to a friendship.

  • @claudiuskeat8336
    @claudiuskeat8336 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Everything Ryuzo's done was for his men. He made a grave mistake that even he couldn't forgive himself. It's evident in his development that he regret betraying Jin for food.

  • @kimurapython121
    @kimurapython121 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I belive their situation is complex its understandable as to why Ryuzo eels this way and the bounty was just the deciding factor to betray Jin.

    • @kimurapython121
      @kimurapython121 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      And he didnt want to become the Samurais slave as well. Honestly I think they did alright writing both characters. Im currently on act2 so no one spoil but there was a bit of hesitation when Ryouzo burned that person alive as a threat so naybe later on the story this will all change

    • @ntfoperative9432
      @ntfoperative9432 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kimurapython121oh buddy, you are going to hate him just as much as Jin by the end

    • @kimurapython121
      @kimurapython121 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ntfoperative9432 Yuh I beat tha game. That was crazy bro Jin went full ghost on him and Ryuzo was delusional

  • @GamingSkeptic
    @GamingSkeptic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I played this game twice and even on my first encounter with Ryuzo I immediately knew something was up with him. Nevertheless, I thought his story was pretty interesting and I wanted him to be on our side cause but I guess he didn't feel the same.

  • @eldenlion5850
    @eldenlion5850 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Ryuzo reminds me a lot of my ex-best friend, a cowardly opportunist

    • @himehomemi5642
      @himehomemi5642 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Damn what happened if you don't mind me asking

    • @MelMoy11
      @MelMoy11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spill the tea 🍵

    • @blast2811
      @blast2811 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dang, glad you don't have to deal with them now

  • @ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique
    @ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Jin: Stop crying about the day you lost to me, get good. You think I was always a legend like this? I trained hard everyday. ☝️

    • @jamesbrown6994
      @jamesbrown6994 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Basically a skill issue on ryuzo's part

    • @Suksass
      @Suksass 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol. And the massive amount of plot armour and being mc.

    • @redhaze7663
      @redhaze7663 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Suksasszero plot armour.

    • @Suksass
      @Suksass 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @redhaze7663 lol. The man started out with plot armour at full power and continued having it through out the game.

    • @redhaze7663
      @redhaze7663 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Suksass No he didn’t. He got his ass handed to him by khotun and got fucked up on the beach too. Die if it wasn’t for yuna. She had to save his life twice in the game actually. The whole division between Jin and his uncle is the fact that Jin was starting to ‘cheat’ which made him as prepared as basically Batman. But he was always one of the best fighters. That ain’t plot armour. He was training since he was a kid by the Lord himself.

  • @soon7117
    @soon7117 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for making this, there were very few videos around this topic when the game first came out. Also it’s just a good quality video

  • @yagurainuzuka
    @yagurainuzuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Like Apollyon from For honor once said: Desperation and trust are seldom allies.

  • @SnowPiercer95
    @SnowPiercer95 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was saddened by his death. It just came down to bad circumstances. Had things been different they would always been comrades

  • @robincharlton9088
    @robincharlton9088 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another Top quality video, I really enjoy the consistency of the content. Keep up the good work and thank you for the great videos

  • @KamuiAlmighty
    @KamuiAlmighty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Ryuzo: "I don't like you, bruh. You came at me hard at the tourney. You could've come at me softly. That's why I didn't become a samurai. Also, I didn't want you to hire me as a samurai. 'Cause that would make me look soft. I'm going to betray you, 'cause the boys and I are hungry. Yeah, that's probably me being soft. But once , you win the war, I'm going to crawl back to you and ask for forgiveness. That's not me being soft at all."
    Ryuzo is the most despicable, degenerate character in this game.

  • @battleworldeditzz_
    @battleworldeditzz_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think he just jealous with Jin. He's a prodigy with a perfect training. He comes from a rich family. He also got an easy route to become a samurai because he is the son of Kazumasa Sakai and nephew of Lord Shimura while Ryuzo, who I think is a peasant. So, I believe he just jealous with Jin because Jin got it easy.

  • @kellyhurley741
    @kellyhurley741 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is what I got from it. The StrawHats are few, the Samurai are many. Had Shimura been in Ryuzo’s shoes, & Ryuzo in Shimura’s, I feel their perspectives would’ve been different. It’s easy to sacrifice men when you have so many, & hard to do when you have so little. I believe it was 80 Samurai that Shimura went to war with. He lost all (but Jin), & it didn’t even faze him because those men were all replaceable. Ryuzo held on to his few because what’s a king without servants ? At that point I don’t think he cared about being a Samurai. What’s the point? Why serve Shimura & them when he’s already a leader of his own. I think that’s why after he told Jin that there was a bounty on him, the last straw was when Jin said Shimura would make him Samurai.
    One thing I never understood, & just brushed off because it’s just a game. But um, there was so much wildlife. So many ways to hunt & eat. If you’re so hungry, then why not just hunt?

  • @Frankly_Amazing2000
    @Frankly_Amazing2000 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find it funny that Ryuzo refused to ask Jin for help in becoming a samurai, ut when he wanted a get out of jail free card he was willing to beg

  • @gabplayplay4813
    @gabplayplay4813 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    4:00 yapping horse

  • @strikeforce1500
    @strikeforce1500 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I think it is a mix of all: Ryuzo resentment to Jin (a poor man who lost his only chance to progress in socity lost to a noble), the situation as a whole of Tsushima being almost lost at the start of the war, and probably he and his men were hungry.
    There is also working under Shimurai, who seem to learn war strategy from a world war 1 manual aka 'Send them to the grinder, until the machine jams or breaks'. Who would want to work under a boss who have his own head so deep in his butt it returns to the top of his neck?.
    Giving proper care to your enemies, civilians or POW,like Mongols did to the Strawhats, is a tactic of war that has been done, even the Mongols did it IRL. Their offer was always 'Just give up,pay taxes, join my empire and we cool', and, aside of taxes lol, that almost seen as a perk, the level of trading with other people far away inside the empire would had skyrocketed
    I can relate with Ryuzo tho. I actually used to feel some level of resentment to a more successful friend of my whole live, sure it doesnt drive me to stab him, but it is there. I also have this feeling of needing to proof myself, not wanting help of someone out of pity, even when it comes out of kindness, it always is perceived as that, pity.

    • @stageblood9935
      @stageblood9935 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Theres quite a few instances of the mongols rewarding immediate submission just as they did irl. i imagine if i was some peasant or village headman in ghost of tsushima i’d probably surrender immediately ngl

  • @mikeviscusi4260
    @mikeviscusi4260 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    11:45 - Anyone notice that Khan looks like Steven Segal?

    • @dylanthered24
      @dylanthered24 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think he looks more like Patrick Gallagher

  • @randolfabad759
    @randolfabad759 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jin: horse, we are having a conversation here

  • @michaelcharles7757
    @michaelcharles7757 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Seeing people say that Ryuzo never cared for his people, and that he was a coward, upsets me greatly. He was put in a horrible situation that most humans would do. He was forced to fight a nation that seemed impossible to defeat, his men((that he calls family)) is starving and dying, and Jin asks for Ryuzos help for a mission that seems suicidal. So when the unstoppable power promised him food in exchange for service, I can see where Ryuzo choice came to be.
    Granted when he saw that Jin showed promise that the island could be saved, he did try to double back and do right, but Jin denied him that, and instead offered him to give up ((which would result in his execution. Idk about you but I don’t want to get my head chopped off))
    Such a tragic character. Call it cowardice. I call it survival and human nature.

  • @dazronrichard5331
    @dazronrichard5331 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ryuzo was a guy who had nothing vs jin who had everything. When ryuzo and jin fought each other during the tournament they were fighting for different reasons.
    Jin was fighting to prove himself. To gain reputation and honor. Could be because of his trauma with watching his father die.
    Ryuzo was fighting because he was desperate and wanted a life where he wouldn't have to struggle. He wanted what jin always had. Once jin won ryuzo became resentful towards jin.
    Ryuzo was looking for way out of his hardship and when the mongols presented that opportunity he took it. Ryuzo internal conflict with himself shows that he knew that his betrayal was cowardly and selfish but he felt as if it was the only choice he had.

  • @cykablyat3680
    @cykablyat3680 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    to be honest, i would be very pissed off if my friend ruined my best change for a way better life and place in society just for him to show off how cool he is , even more so because he already is on the path for that said life without fucking me over

    • @longago-igo
      @longago-igo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nothing wrong with second place or with being your childhood friend’s (and heir to a clan) right hand man, if you’ve been beaten fairly in a tournament fight.

  • @gixxerfixxer8282
    @gixxerfixxer8282 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you pay attention to the story jins uncle speaks about rysuo betrayed him when they were younger!

  • @Genyuine
    @Genyuine หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ngl my first playthrough i felt bad for tuso, my 2nd playthrough it felt like he was just making excuses and feeling sorry for himself

  • @LucasT37
    @LucasT37 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder what would have happened if Ryuzo had stayed loyal to Jin and pushed through his jealousy?

  • @BruceWayneJ
    @BruceWayneJ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know something was wrong with Ryuzo before he betrayed me

  • @masatoindou1759
    @masatoindou1759 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i dunno, i think Ryuzo's betrayal is also rooted in his unresolved issues with Jin
    Feeding his men and wanting the straw hats to survive is just a convenient excuse
    Otherwise, at their final confrontation, when he says the straw hats are finished, thanks to Jin and Yuna's action, he wouldn't have talked with Jin and instead tried to avenge his men
    The ones he supposedly valued more than his "Friendship" with Jin

  • @kalenwilliams5210
    @kalenwilliams5210 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    4:00 the horse with the mean videobomb 😂

  • @VNMPRDTR
    @VNMPRDTR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure if Ryuzo had hopes of defeating Jin, after all in both battles when unsheathing his Sword he throws the Sheath away, which was something Samurai did when they thought they would not survive the oncoming Battle. And even after being show this mercy by Jin, that he slipped up or only made a small mistake, whatever, was not taken up by Ryuzo, showing that he did indeed not only want to feed his men...

  • @JYJY-dz8ij
    @JYJY-dz8ij หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like if Ryuzo really needed food for his men he could've gone to the several safe havens Jin had saved. Or he could've helped the farmers that get attacked in the 2nd act. Or hunt the boars and bears that are throughout the island. Perhaps I'm just looking at it from a player's perspective instead from Ryuzo's. Only reason i can see him not doing so is Pride. Too prideful to ask Jin/Jin's allies for food. Maybe too shameful to ask the farmers since he turned against them but he could've fed his men before the betrayal.

  • @qbongers
    @qbongers หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ryuzo was contradicting himself the whole time. he wanted to be a samurai but gain that title himself. Then when jin offers him to become samurai by lord shimura he starts complaining about not wanting to be sent to fight the mongols but when he would be a samurai he would be doing that exact thing like what do you want bruh? he wants to be a samurai but do none of the work that a samurai would do like wtf XD

  • @user-sj8lx7tf7n
    @user-sj8lx7tf7n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The second he mentioned the tournament i knew we would end up betraying us. But i honestly thought he would redeem himself

  • @Guccipoooch
    @Guccipoooch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ryuzo being sorry as hell the second time I fought him goes so well with him being a cowering bih, “all my men are dead” bih how do you think I killed them? Why do you think I killed them? No sympathy was gained

  • @Westfield813
    @Westfield813 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They should of allowed ryuzo to become a samurai and then make lord shimura send him to take out Jin

  • @jharmo2
    @jharmo2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ryuzo was a pathetic coward through and through. It wasn't about food for his men. He never believed the Khan could be defeated and decided to join the side whom he thought would give him victory. He burned people at the stake and had his men commit atrocities across the island just to make sure the Khan wouldn't kill him. When it came time to face consequences, he begged for his life like a dog. Ryuzo was pathetic and someone people should pity.

  • @assassincreed2087
    @assassincreed2087 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ryuzo wasn't cut out to be a samurai anyway. He didn't possess the qualities it requires to be one

  • @FemboyKaiSaku
    @FemboyKaiSaku 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    oh yayy, i love this game

  • @Alexander_Hidden
    @Alexander_Hidden 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What about this "trap" of Ryuzo? It was all based on the fact that the skillful professional samurai, the best swordsman on the island, did not pay attention to what was happening behind his back in the middle of the enemy's fort? That's ridiculous. I can believe that Taka tried to save him alone because he wanted to prove himself and his sister that he was a brave man. But how could Jin be captured like that?
    Moreover, Khan said that Jin was dangerous and unpredictable, but at the same time, he just left him without surveillance? And spare his life? And left his weapon and armor in the chest, which was 10 meters from Jin? That was the most stupid mission in the game, and for me, it fully ruined the emotional moment of Taka's death.

    • @The93Momo93
      @The93Momo93 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yepp that was classic plot armor, Khan throwing Jin off the bridge was probably with the intention to kill him which he survived by pure luck, but just leaving him at the fort was pure bullshit, conveniently all the straw hats only came after Jin got free.....by all common sense and logic he should have been dead at the fort

  • @richardbarton5910
    @richardbarton5910 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean if it was he would've stuck with jin to the very end but he teams up with the enemy instead even though jin got him his food yeah I think he hates jin for the tournament and that's why he betrayed jin his men being hungry was just a self-justified excuse.

  • @aidanjanemcintosh6919
    @aidanjanemcintosh6919 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was the weakest plot of the game for me. He kept complaining about food while I had tons of supplies in my inventory, and while we did our mission together we met like, at least, 10 boars and 1 bear.

  • @Suprisedbuzz
    @Suprisedbuzz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No. His betrayal is to save his own ass. He knew that the Mongols would go after him eventually, so he decided to join them before they could. He never intended to help Jin. it's obvious throughout his missions that he openly resents jin.

  • @monacoDERP3138
    @monacoDERP3138 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2:23 Is cannon
    They are in one piece

  • @TMY732
    @TMY732 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He was obviously jealous of jin

  • @sheriefwoodard8686
    @sheriefwoodard8686 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nah Ryuzo wouldn’t hesitate to sacrifice his men if it meant saving his own ass

  • @kormak8280
    @kormak8280 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    he was a wannabe samurai who didn't have the honor or integrity for it. dude didn't have the guts to die with honor like a true samurai and was a coward. when jin was winning he wanted to change sides. rest in piss ryuzo.

  • @fenixgarcia5122
    @fenixgarcia5122 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FACKIN AMZING VIDEO CANT WEEEELLLL DOOOOOONE LAD

  • @hittingdasauce
    @hittingdasauce 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nah he pick that side plus jealous n envy was brewing with that man but i dont blame look the outcome for jin. He is a hero but now an outlaw cuz how he defended the island as an assassin than noble warriors. Fuck that shit its war n them Mongols we're monster n they was no other way to stop them

  • @Youalrightboi
    @Youalrightboi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He was like Ghost . He opted for every ways to keep his people alive .
    Now you realise why Jin as Ghost was not appreciated by Samurais and Shoguns . Just because Jin was winning doesnt mean his ways were right . Just because things are going according to his plan doesnt mean it was the right choice . He was walking on a thin thread . Not evryone can do that . And he is a public figure , influencing people . Spreading chaos and disorder .

  • @Janfey
    @Janfey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thats for the fucking spoiler in the topic. Watched few reviews and now i get spoilers in my recommendations.

    • @atomic747
      @atomic747 หลายเดือนก่อน

      motherfucker you had 4 years to play the game.

  • @DC_Warden
    @DC_Warden 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Great video. Can I just say, this thing Westerners do where they sort of attempt the inflection or accent of a foreign name. No one else does this except native English speakers. You have an accent. Everyone has an accent. Just say the names/ words as you would like all English as a 2nd language speakers do. If you saw someone with a thick Japanese or Italian or Swedish accent suddenly say a random word like they were from California you'd understand how silly it sounds. But you won't, because only the west does this.

    • @CynicGTA
      @CynicGTA  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lol, i understand exactly what youre saying. I’m Hispanic and the amount of unnecessary effort people go through to “properly” pronounce a spanish word is funny sometimes. On the same token i think its a sign of trying to respect the culture at hand. Either way, my speech isnt that strong to begin with.

    • @LedZedd
      @LedZedd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah.. noone cares. Engrish is a thing too and noone except ppl like you want to bitch about it.

    • @fenixchief7
      @fenixchief7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It is obviously not an english thing, but an american thing. And if other people and cultures had as much experience dealing and interacting with intermingling cultures and languages, it would be more common elsewhere. Melting pot, remember?
      Nevermind the fact this is literally how languages evolved. English is the bastard amalgamation of norse, germanic, celtic, latin, greek, aramaic, arabic, all of them brother. All the romance languages stemmed off of latin just like that. People meeting and trying to work their languages together. American english, british english and australian english are not all the same.
      Which leads to another point; english speakers dont pronounce words the same. In boston a horse is a hass. In lousiana oil is ole.
      Fourth... how many languages are you fluent in that you could even make such an observation? Get real, kid lmfao.

    • @DC_Warden
      @DC_Warden 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey, i dont really understand your point. Im referring to putting on an accent when saying a word. You dont have to change your accent. Im not even sure your response was meant for me. ​@fenixchief7

    • @LedZedd
      @LedZedd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@DC_Warden His point is you are whining about something that doesn't matter.

  • @tyler-anthonygroh7297
    @tyler-anthonygroh7297 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly i think most of us would do what Ryuzu did i mean he did what had to be done to save his men

    • @ntfoperative9432
      @ntfoperative9432 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He didn’t do it to save his men. He could have done the same by saving Shimura, who would have showered them with rewards for saving him. Helping his men was a scapegoat. He was a coward who couldn’t stand being inferior to Jin

    • @sugoi9680
      @sugoi9680 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ntfoperative9432 Shimura would have sent them to their deaths

    • @Automaton237
      @Automaton237 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sugoi9680he could have asked for food and then helped a little bit in the end he's a coward I wouldn't even stoop down to that level of trying to join back up with the person who I betrayed after I use my starving men dying as an excuse all he did was lie and create an annoying enemies you have to face in the game they could have just simply asked to stay as Defenders and get food in return and maybe help in the final battle with their own tactics since they're not Samurai.

    • @sugoi9680
      @sugoi9680 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Automaton237 You're thinking with a gamified mindset. He made a judgement call and lost that's all and yes he's also a coward.

  • @stubaccount
    @stubaccount หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how weeb army all got together to inflate a shit side-quest to the heights of 1984)

  • @jthele
    @jthele หลายเดือนก่อน

    The title of video alone is already a spoiler. Thanks.

  • @chimera_43
    @chimera_43 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hearing the dialogue in English dont sound right 😂

  • @BasedR0nin
    @BasedR0nin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your red dead videos and was happy to see this!

  • @williamfranklin860
    @williamfranklin860 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ryuzo was jealous of Jin and almost every interaction with him basically has him admitting to this.

  • @mitchellhermansen1836
    @mitchellhermansen1836 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Were the French justified when turning in Jewish to the nazis? Or any other occupied country.