Traditional Nuns Are Being Attacked! Fairfield Carmelites Documentary
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- Fairfield Carmelite Nuns at risk? Cor Orans Federations threatening Traditional communities - Catherine Bauer - Director of Marketing & Development
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Who are these Nuns?
Their history?
Their community?
Their life?
What is Cor Orans and why is this threating these Nuns?
Have they received a dispensation?
Apostolic visitation?
Public Masses banned?
What can be done?
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God bless her,she is explaining what brides of Christ are supposed to do. I’m sure these beautiful brides of Christ have saved many souls. They are the true imitation of our Blessed Mother.
Surah Al Iklas
Surah Maryam
Brides of Christ need to submit to the Body of Christ.
@@michaelspeyrer1264 la ilaha illAllah
@@Servant-Of-Al-Qudus fun stuff, but who was Jesus begotten by?
The Pope needs to stop persecuting these Sisters. Personally I love the Carmelite Order and wished I had entered.
A short while ago, I read that Pope Francis has different views of these nuns. In a way as to attack the Carmilite nuns freedom to continue to pray 🙏 and live as that always have.
Amen, holy warriors
Pope Francis is a fake Christian!
The Carmelite Sisters are lovely…
We need these humble prayer warriors now more than ever.
Ad Glorium Dei!
Nope, we don’t need more disobedient people in the cheuch.
Amen
United in prayer for the nuns. I am a non-canonical lay hermit and a member of the lay Carmelites.
These nun's are powerhouse's of prayer, we need them imagine how terrible thing's would be without them, they hold back the wrath of God, we need to pray and sacrifice for them
Nuns are the greatest warriors of the Church
They hold back the wrath of god???? I suppose at the same time explaining how he loves you!!! I never could understand how delusional people believe in such supernaturalism.
@@troutcrazy1826 Prayer appeased God's wrath ! We have seen this so often.
I read a message from God the Father to a mystic " Do you know that many have no one to Pray for them ?" And Jesus
" So many go to hell as no one is there to pray for them "
Also Fatima " Pray and suffer for sinners as many go to hell as there are none to Pray for them "
Satan and his demons want only one thing from us and that is to take us to hell. Intercessory Prayer is a powerful tool so they get the grace of Repentance and are saved. The nuns do this beautifully moreso in these Last times !
Queen and Mother of the Last Times Snatch us out of the clutches of Evil 😈
God bless and protect these brides of Christ.Amen
Let's pray for them
Thank you. I will keep you guys and the most beautiful Carmelites in my Prayers . If God is with us who can be against us.
Pax
What about the ugly Carmelites? 🙁
@@michaelhanford8139 hahaha! They are all beautiful for it is the beauty of God they exude.
God protect them
God punish them.
Ahhh, which God? Thor, Zeus, Satan...or Allah? 🤔
I deeply believe without their prayers...so so many..like myself wouldn't be in the confessional after 60 years. Their holy prayers join with those we personally send to God, for our children!
🙏Thank you for sharing!
Surah Al Iklas
This is awful! It breaks my heart! First, Perfectae Caritatis watered down the contemplative life. Now, this. Will those modernists never stop until they turn the contemplative life, from a mystery into something merely human, worldly, and completely devoid of the Grace of the Holy Spirit? And don't they realize the catastrophe that this means for the Church and for the world? Sadly, I think they know, and that's exactly what they want.
They will never understand the beauty...
Federations don't water down the contemplative life. They support it & enrich it.
Federations don't dissuage the Holy Spirit. They call down the Holy Spirit into their midst by unity, communion, charity, & fraternity in love.
I love the way Catherine said "Its Pitch Black Outside" I lived in a town in Ireland and they never said Its dark outside . They always said "Its Pitch Black Outside "
The prayer is the charism of the Discalced Carmelite. Every religious order had their own charism.
To join a Federation of religious is going to be messy.
The Federation's rule runs contrary to the Carmelite rule of life as St Teresa of Avila has set down for her nuns.
You cannot put together a non contemplative with the contemplatives.
Strawman.
Modernist
@@XavierIsraelMatamoros faithless degenerate
The Federations are Carmelite Nuns who share the same constitutions & charisms. No outsiders are included. The magisterium may appoint professionals or experts to assist in formation programs.
I'm a nature girl who loves beaches, mountains, fields, gardens and farms... woods... you name it... I like living in a quiet place with no noise and neighbors are acres away.... when my dad told me, "how about being a nun?" We lived in the city and I saw no appeal to being a nun living in a ghetto city with a semi-okay novus ordo church and noisy traffic. I also am scared at the idea of living locked up, I like to go on walks.
Don't be afraid. Nuns go on walks. If you feel called, go and see
Theres monasteries in secluded places in nature in all countries. Considering your family supports a vocation...you can make an experience.
I just can't bear hearing this happen over & over again. It's evil. It just breaks 💔 my heart.
It's an attempt to tear out the heart of the church & destroy one of its most precious & generative foundations.
I'll never know how this Pope lives with himself. Or perhaps there's someone else forcing his hand, "thinking to change times and laws".
The pope has dementia.
Disobedience doesn’t come from the Holy Spirit.
Obeying evil is not from the Holy Ghost
@@XavierIsraelMatamoros Obeying the legitimate teaching authority of the Church Christ promised would never lead you to sin .
To believe the contrary is heresy.
@@michaelspeyrer1264 There's the rub. What is the legitimate teaching authority? Not every word that comes from the impostor Bergoglio's mouth that's for sure. To believe so is stupid, blind obedience to his myriad heretical pronouncements, not to mention his idolatrous actions. Now, that is heresy.
The practice of monasticism is centuries old. Seclusion to focus on prayer for humankind is a sacred calling ! It should not be altered for secular reasons.
This is tabout seclusion this is about obedience.
Guess you didn't read Genesis.
This is unique in that this information is never divulged. There was an upload on TH-cam from a former Roman Catholic nun who divulged the horrors of her Convent in Mexico. This woman gets to the point of those atrocities ASAP.
I'm typically skeptical of those things
That's one reason the Federations are needed. Because there are abuses. Get those abuses exposed & terminated.
For example. Having just 1 novice mistress in charge of formation was causing a loss of vocation when the novice mistress & a novice didn't get along. Now the new regulation is you must have 3 formators in charge of the novice. It's much fairer to the novice & retaining Vocations.
@@nuns8126 i was a postulant 11yrs ago and the novice mistress was an elderly lady who hated everyone. I think they gave her that role years ago and didnt want to remove her. But she was not suited anymore. I learned way more love and humility from the sister that washed the clothes and lived completely without "shinning". Off course i left the monastery. I didnt except all to be roses but she was way too mean.
Any time you here about “ A Visitor “ it is never good.
Why must these Carmelites lose their own charisma? Remember the enemies of Saint Teresa de Jesus!
I am a Carmelite……OCD. There are hundreds of enclosed contemplative Carmels all over the world loyal to Teresa, John of the Cross, and the Father General of the Order who are completely in obedience to Peter, and have deepened the understanding of the Carmelite charism in including Carmels which were originally founded by Teresa’s own companions, including her own community still in Avila. Many of the comments on this site are written from ignorance of the Order.
@@wendyfield7708 You misunderstand me. I love the Carmelite Saints. Years ago, I was a third order Carmelite. Sorry about the extra a in charism. It is so upsetting what is happening in our world. God bless.
Surah Al Iklas
This doesn’t have anything to do with their charism.
The Camden, New Jersey Dominican Sisters of the Perpetual Rosary were in a monastery( next to Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital) for like a century. It was a beautiful chapel there that I loved to go for prayer. Their numbers dwindled and no one entered for decades (I tried to join but they didn't take black women back in the seventies). The diocese took over the property and now it's a huge PARKING LOT! It's simple. The men who run the Church want to get their hands on the property of these women who want only to live a life of prayer and penance in seclusion from the world.
Convents that dwindle down to 5 members must merge with another community.
It's the sick pedophile priests that made bishops sell convents to pay for there court cases & judgements. Blame the bishops & priests who abused children & nuns sexually.
i’m an unmarried woman of discernment age but cannot move forward because of student loans. the crisis in vocations in USA today for women is really linked to this as well because of the vow of poverty means all debts must be settled before entering as postulant. bring back our vocations 😢 it breaks my heart because the sisters who taught me as a small child really changed my life and gave me a beautiful, mystical way of seeing God in this world :/ we need them
Don’t understand why the Vatican is trying to suppress these sisters.
You need to get the book infiltration/ or see Dr.Marshal Taylor videos. You need to know what really going on. And Church Militant
Yeah, I know. It's the nature of the beast.
We have rebellious bishops in Germany and he goes after nuns who want to live a contemplative life. Makes no sense.
@@paxetbonum4420
It makes perfect sense to the nature of the beast
Because these enemies of the Church knows the power of prayer of these cloister nuns. Not those NO sects.
Other worldly? This world is in such great need. I'm a convert and dont understand why the treasure of faith is so quiet. Lots of people need the Catholic truths.
God bless these nun's , keep on trucking, we are with you all the way 🏴🏴🏴🏴🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Amen let us pray for them
Out here in the middle of Kansas we had an order of Carmelintes, about 15 of them, who facing being shut down by Francis...if I remember correctly it was because not enough vocations were being generated from there. A group Carmelites in New Jersey offered to take them in. So these poor nuns went from a bucolic setting of rural K@ansas to the pavemnt and car fumes of New Jersey. Thanks Francis.
Tragic, what community was this?
They were Discalced Carmelites who were under the jurisdiction of the Bishop of Wichita. Their departure was a great blow to our diocese.
jorjay has caused SO much pain and confusion etc.
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The nuns can save the world because in God they trust.
Thank you for reading the comment God bless ye.
We need a saintly pope to clean out the filth that has infiltrated the Church since the '60s. Remember that in your daily Rosary.
God hears us in all different languages and ways it’s surprises me that the pope is doing this their is such a shortage of nuns I’ve had beautiful memories of the nuns in my life they were the Nuns of St Joseph they were their for me and never gave up on me thank god I would like to send prayers to Sister Roberta bless her soul I don’t think I would of made it through please protect these nun’s Padre Pio 🙏✌🏻♥️
Surah Al Iklas
The Church doesn’t need disobedient bins who follow their own will.
@@michaelspeyrer1264 112. Surah Al-Ikhlaas
In the Name of Allah, The Most Gracious, Most Merciful
1. Say (O Muhammad) : "He is Allah, (the) One.
2. "Allah-us-Samad (The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks).
3. "He begets not, nor was He begotten;
4. "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him."
@@Servant-Of-Al-Qudus Now that you've got that out of your system, what does that have to do with the video?
1)God is one in nature.....He is also 3 in person.
2) Unless he takes on a human nature.
3) Who was Jesus' father?
@@michaelspeyrer1264 112. Surah Al-Ikhlaas
In the Name of Allah, The Most Gracious, Most Merciful
1. Say (O Muhammad) : "He is Allah, (the) One.
2. "Allah-us-Samad (The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks).
3. "He begets not, nor was He begotten;
4. "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him."
Our friend's daughter is there. I agree that that place is very mystical! I am haunted (in a good way!) by that place. I think 2 visits there all the time
Thank you for info. My favorite program.
The grounds of the Sisters of the Blessed Sacrament have that same feeling on their grounds. They now have to sell their grounds. She, her Sisters, and the Associates of the SBS have the same charism. The honor guards watched over her crypt. We are heartbroken. She saw a need, the Native American and African Americans had a great need. These sisters were then in danger, they tried to burn down their house with a burning cross lit by the KKK on horses. A bolt of lightening came from the sky directly at the leader. Saint Katharine Drexel started a college for black people, when there was nothing. It is sad to see these Sacred grounds sold. There is a beautiful chapel on the grounds. I just wanted to make people aware of such kind and Holy people. They stayed after mass to talk to everyone and you felt so welcome any time, day or night. Why are religious congregations of women being thrown out while they are putting women without congregations into places originally held by men. Are religious women congregated together and full of love for the Lord not necessary? Wherever 2 or more are gathered in my name, there is love. I also feel Grace, holiness, kindness, openness, and so many things only the femininity of a women's order dedicated to those who are marginalized can bring. I cannot imagi e what will happen to her dedication to Native and African American people when they don't have this place for the meeting of all races. Everyone is welcome and can feel it.
Sister Katharine Drexel's order is the Sister of the Blessed Sacrament and are also devoted to having exposition 24 hours/day as often as possible, so we can come right to Him whenever we need or want to sing praises to him. They are brave and dedicated women. They fear no one in getting Christ's love and word out. I wish my words could portray the sacredness felt by so many as soon as they stepped on that holy ground. I don't know why it has to be sold. Many people have come there to learn and they are inspired. I was, and could not leave. Many miracles are observed there. I am wondering why there appears to be an attack, of sorts, on congregations of religious women.
It's badly trained novice directors who are throwing candidates & nuns out. That's why the Federations are needed to train the novice mistresses.
The gates of hell will not prevail! Our prayers are with you! UK 🇬🇧
In Mexico most families who live in the country side also get up at 4am, milk cows and goats, make tortillas and baked bread. Harvest their own vegetables and fruits. They also pray and make lots of sacrifices. You do not have to be a carmelite nun to live a primitive style life.
You have to be !! They are the heavy artillery of the Catholic church moreso in these Last Times !
Sacrifice for God and self control through disciplines gives energizing graces.
So does fly fishing!
And so much for the US Constitution and freedom of religion. The Catholic Church has dug its own grave.
Praying🙏🏽💟✝️🕎
This story is heart breaking and disgusting. Bergoglio has instituted his own agenda every since the day he took office and now will destroy one cloistered community at a time.
You are a schsianeicnand defending schism and not a Catholic.
He is a nephlim so will do it. In fact Jesus says that most countries are today ruled by the nephlim.
I give you my appreciation for what I have visually inherited and observantly analyzed. I hope to you a propitious day and night.
Miss Bower seems apologetic about the Carmelite Rite being Traditionalist at the beginning. She then expresses the attraction pretty clearly. There are Traditional cloistered Benedictines also, And they are Contemplative, not a teaching order like the New Order Benedictines here in America. What she describes here should be everywhere. This is the definition of the Universal Church. By rejecting the traditions and compliance to the rule of the orders as they were established we reject the whole tenor and Practice of Catholic life for those of us in the world also. This is a microcosm glimpse of the macrocosm of the slippery slope we have been sliding down for the last 50 years.
So sorry for the nuns at this time.
Many of these sisters must be saints if they get persecuted this hard.
Amen let's pray for them
She hit the modern nail on the head.
When the going gets tough, the tough lovers get going...
@@lcunningham1776That was good 👍🏼
In the reform of st Theresa the number of nuns was limited to 12 with one extern.
I’ve been praying for them & am wondering if they can form a new federation, as they have more than one monastery now. However there is no federation (possibly) who follows the ancient Carmelite rule founded by St. Teresa of Avila. They have two to three monasteries now; (moved from Elysburg to) Fairfield, PA; another monastery in Nebraska; and a third one in Valparaiso California. {I think that it right. I visited them in Elysburg PA in 2013}
Surah Al Iklas
You are so right, these Holy women are very dangerous, just as Christ was very dangerous for preaching the truth, the Demon would consider them, one of his deadliest enemies and the more he torments them, the more they help Our Lady to crush his foul head, their sufferings will be his pain as they bring him closer to God's judgment.
Holy women are obedient.
Nuns should be allowed to live their rule without subversive modernist interference
God bless them indeed. I would tell the pontiff where he can stick his Cor Orans. Rebellll!!!
And that’s why schismarics Arne factually Catholics.
New order types are schismarics and Arne Catholic
The Pachimaniac, Martin Lutherized, co-concelebrator with heretical sects pope is not to be followed when he commits heretical acts. Our Foundkng Fathers, especially Jefferson, said to nullify (ignore) unconstitutional laws/edicts. The same applies here.
@David Walsh. Did Jesus teach us to criticize our leaders? I guess you are becoming a Protestant. Did Jesus not say, pray for those who prosecute you?
@@lucillebonds2196 Even Paul resisted Peter when he knew Peter was in the wrong. So yeah…I will criticize this “pope” for the evil he’s been spreading.
Persecute*
Acqinas or another Catholic theologian said that even if a Pope tells you to do something wrong, simply don't obey. This is not protestantism, it's faithfulness to Christ in His divinely revealed religion. No man of any rank may countermand Christ. Pacha-pope needs to go join his pagan confrers in their Pacha-temple and take the hell with him.
“Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming.”
Matthew 24:42
“Let nothing trouble you, nothing frighten you. All things are passing; God never changes. Patient endurance attains all things. Whoever possesses God lacks nothing: God alone suffices.”
‘St Teresa's Bookmark’; found in her breviary after her death.
God help the✝️ nuns 😇
Amen
The Church could use the space in monasteries to welcome lay Catholics or anyone that desires contemplative training. Something that is absolutely critical at this time. We need more silent spaces. Not less.
🙏🏻🕯
Pope Francis, as a Catholic I will continue to pray for him. This Pope honestly needs to go, he his killing our ⛪️ church. This is insane, Does Pope Francis not understand Saint Teresa of Avila is Doctor of our Church. Not only a Doctor of the Church THE FIRST FEMALE DOCTOR OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
I AM GOING TO HELP YOU FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT, GOD WILL PREVAIL.
I'm sure that Bergoglio knows exactly what he's doing.
No he isn’t, disobedience isn’t killing us. And this is more disobedience.
Yes, starting with obedience to the Hoky See.
I’ve been there and it’s like no place on earth. Visit if you can. We also visited the shrine of mother Seton. Her order this day is not impressive.
NOT unique in Church history!
Since at least the 8th century, Benedictine monasteries of men have grouped themselves into "congregations" of monasteries. Each monastery retains independence in terms of electing its own abbot, having its own novitiate, in general making its own decisions about prayer and work. That said, there are "visitators" on the part of the congregation who visit every few years and advise the community about issues of relevance to them. This keeps the autonomous communities within the congregation from veering off into extremes.
Women's monastic communities have traditionally not used the congregational model of governance of autonomous communities, often because they remained under the oversight of the nearest monastic community of men (that was in turn a member of a congregation). Today, women's monastic communities are becoming independent from male oversight; hence their need to form their own female congregations of autonomous monastic communities.
It's all to prevent injustice and insanity within communities.
What is Popee agenda for modernizing everything? I thought God is God and does not necessary change with time?
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What can we do for other than pray for them which I do all the time we we love and need them only two we are blessed. Sad when I hear our seminarys and convents do not have as many nuns and priests as we used toad yet the catholic faith is growing.
Please forgive my ignorance, but if these nuns are completely autonomous, why do they need to depend on the Holy See for anything or even acknowledge Rome for that matter? Can't they just break away from the Church entirely?
How can the body live without the Head .
They will destroy the Pacha demon's power with the power of Christ!!
Our Lady of Copacabana, slay the Pacha-demon for us!
Don't expect any help from the current Pope.
Thought she was referring to Kor'ans for a while!!!
These nuns dedicate their lives in prayer for all of us .
They should align with the SSPX.
Not sure how that works, would be curious to understand
Hum is part of the reason this is going on because of what charlotte’s testimony 😢
She explains the attraction. Clearly. I’m not the brightest bulb in the living room but I get it. And they STILL ask what attraction is( ??).
Read Seven Story Mountain.
En la cruz,está el sentido de vida!
This has happened in several orders after their probationary period after foundation. Usually all positions within the monastery or order, after 10 years of its existence, are decided within that order according to their rule. Yet Ecclesia Dei Commission for example made appointments for positions within the FSSP rather than honoring the orders own elections, essentially breaking Ecclesia Dei's own laws. And that was over 20 years ago.
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much prayers needed
All the silence,customs and traditions are good
But if one really know the Heart of St.Teresa ,She loved the Mother Church
She would always want her daughters to Obey rather than to go against the Holy Father
Obedience keeps one free from illusion
French Revolution, anyone?
Nothing like having predatory administrators fostering failure.
very tragic
@@CatholicDriveTime
Is not the greater tragedy that Holy church was given both a heads-up warning and exemplification of appropriate responce and she fails (in her unfaithfulness) to take action over and over and over again?
Question, why is the Our Father Catholic prayer not the same as the Lord Prayer as in the Bible ?
I am a Roman Catholic of over 50 years but Irish priests don’t like answering any questions ..
It is.
She’s correct the nuns aren’t actually interested in being exact to the Teresian model, 13 is the limit. They are supposed to divide and found a different Carmel. The new mass church hates the faith and we are seeing it play out under Bergoglio a wicked pastor. The nuns will need to be independent and not part of any specific order. Each house independent.
You are a schismatic and not a Catholic.
The Vatican 2 so called "church" left the Holy Faith and is heretical if not a totally new anti-Christ religion.
They should join SSPX, there are also traditional carmelites.
@@ginterka381996 The SSPX aren't part of the Catholic Church.
@@michaelspeyrer1264 They are.
Why are religious being attacked for living a religious life according to the rule they have followed for hundreds of years. The demon is fearful of the prayers that wing their way heavenward and due to time differences every second of every day. There can only be one explanation, demonic forces are at work. The prayers of in the enclosed orders are so powerful causing such a strong resistance to satan must be the answer, pray the Rosary the 15 decades as given by our Lady to St Dominic.
unbelievable.
Good interview but I don't like the free way she uses the word "we" when she's talking about the Carmelite sisters. She may have a sibling who is a nun and she may be attached to the Convent but she isn't a religious member of the First Order
Then they need to leave and go underground.
This is what all traditional Catholics will have to do eventually
Throughout the video, I kept waiting to hear some specific guidelines in Cor Orans that would be detrimental to the life of these nuns. I never heard any specifics. So it seems to me that if a monastery doesn't want to follow guidelines from the Holy Church, or avoid oversight and accountability, that in itself would be quite suspect.
To be hermits is the original charism of the Carmelite Order.
We keep praying ! In te domine Speravi
Who ever wants to attack this saintly women is pure evil.
These aren’t saintly women. Obedience is a pre-requisite to holiness.
@@michaelspeyrer1264 Bergoglio should not be obeyed in this matter. Good Lord, man! Do you not see what this pope is doing?
Nope. Doing God's will is primary, as is resisting non-Christian so called popes
"We ought always to hold the white which I see is black,if the hierarchical church so decides."~St Ignatius of Loyola
Where did you get your crucifix? I would love to get one.
It's on a loan from a friend, he got it from a sculptor in Mexico
If these nuns are living according to the rule devote and prayerfull with works why connect with our convents? More time wasting. More blah blah blah.
More emails
More things to do list
They are not there to have a great time with as many friends as possible
The life should be stripped down to the simplist lives. All focused on the core point is prayer.
It's beautiful that these sisters don't use almost any technology
Pope Francis is the second beast False Prophet of the Apocalypse. - Father John Matthew Duffy, Toronto, Canada
My life long dream.
Popey is coming for all traditional orders.Nobody will escape.
You are a heretic and a schismatic, and you need to repent.
How nice is the cross you have behind you
Very beautiful, it's a gift
The Benedictine wake up various times in the night and early morning to pray the hours.
Theres Carmilites in the state of Washington that do excatly the same thing latin Mass France and spanish nuns one of them is my sister Estella Gonzalez. my brother David goes there to help with the gardens
Who is Shang mask for the sisters now?
The Discalced Carmelite Order is a Papal Order and follows the SPIRIT of Teresa of Avila and St.John of the Cross, whose main teachings are Detachment and OBEDIENCE to Peter’s successors. This is all talking of external preferences of rites. The Church is a living organism and does not ossify at a particular time in history. This Carmel’s problems stem from their disobedience to the Magisterium, and this community has cut itself from the rest of the Order. Many Carmels aroind the world are very strict, but are obedient to the Pope and the Father General. The woman here talks about being faithful to St.Teresa. St. Teresa in her reform did not allow more than 21 nuns in any community….which is in the Rule and Statutes.
yeah look what the church has done in the last 50 years, everything is going so well, record low vocations and brand new church designs. Get with the times, heal the planet, prevent global warming, tango mass, coming to a new catholic convent near you.
"Rites" are not mere "preference" my friend. Never in the history of the Church have those attached to an ancient Rite been suppressed by that fact. NEVER. It is rather the "more recent" innovations that were rightly suppressed and curtailed - most notably by St. Pius V. If you think it's about mere "preference" then you don't understand the substantial alteration of the faith that took place when known Freemason Annibale Bugnini created a Rite that was stripped of anything that would offend arch-heresiarch Luther and his progeny. The ONLY thing the new Rites have retained unaltered, owing to the power of the Church and their retention of basic form, matter and (usually) intention of a valid minister, is their validity. Their crisis isn't merely procedural, preferential, or a matter of simple pride. It's a very concrete and basic matter of faith and morals and Sacred Tradition and Scripture which NO pontiff, nor anyone beneath him, "nor an Angel in heaven" may preach differently.
@@Robetea1 You said it , there is none so blind as those who will not see, the very reason this Carmel is overflowing with true vocations speaks for itself, they must be crushed because they hold up a mirror to their detractors and the return image isn't good.
Which is it? Faithful to the Pope or the Magisterium? We are all to obey magisterium in traditional faith & morals. The Pope is a subversive anti-Christ
Living without electricity - as the sisters do - is very healthy, both for body and mind, and spirituality. The pulsed electromagnetic fields (EMFs) from electricity and wireless technology "mess" (interfer) somewhat with the electrical signals in both the brain and heart, and also affect
signals in many kinds of cells in the body. Also, some people are more vulnerable to those kinds of disturbances than others. It is easier to meditate, reach peacful states of mind, and to think deeply, for a person who is not exposed to man made EMFs.
why not fight the fall in vocations by taking on the biggest obstacle to joining religious life for young women like me: STUDENT LOANS we cannot discharge in bankruptcy 😢
The mother superior should take the Carmelite sisters to the SSPX if they wish to worship in Latin. Those who wish to worship in the English rite should remain with the Roman church. So there will be two branches. They should continue. They wear the full habit and live the Carmelite spirituality completely.
One can't have "two branches" of a group where one branch is formally approved by Rome and the other is in canonical limbo. I think they should attach themselves completely to the "mission of Abp. +Lefebvre to the Roman Church" and just affiliate entirely with the SSPX and await the day sanity returns to the Holy See.
Well both are schismatics so that fits.
And you are a heretic, so there's that
@@michaelspeyrer1264 NEITHER are "schismatics" and accusing fellow Catholics of the sin of schism without justification is itself a sin, either of detraction or ignorance.
@@stthomasmore4811 They aren't in canonical limbo. They are in schism.
Lefebvre has no mission recognized by the Catholic Church. Neither does the SSPX to this day.
Recognizing that a body and its practioners is in schism as the Holy See has recognized across numerous documents across 40 years, is not the result of a lack of sanity, especially when its completely consistent with Canon law. And has been the entire time.
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Again, the answer is Sedevacantistism. Carmel will live on. No problem.
Praise God! We need more vocations. Also Dominican Nuns are devoted to prayer Dominican sisters are apostolic. Just a note.
If you are thinking on a vocations go headlong God will give you a yes or no
What the heck is the popes idea with executive orders? He taking tips from the presidents? Come on
Leave it to Bergoglio…
I'm going to throw this out there. Hopefully you can do the much needed research I cannot. Are the Fairfield "Carmelite" Nuns associated with the Discalced Carmelite Order? I have not seen any reports from the Carmelites about this. So my question is, are these just a bunch of women who got a few books by Teresa of Avila & decided to imitate her & her convents? If that's the case, it's a beautiful thing, but are these women truly Carmelites? I have not heard of any true Carmelites having issue with Cor Orans & I can't imagine they would since the order is already federated around the world.
They are real Carmelites
Since Federations were established, there have been carmelite convents which did not join but preserved their autonomy.
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Is that Blue out fit this young lady wearing is theirs Habbits / or it call uniform?
You need to listen, she is not a nun. Her sister is and she is advocating for them
Yeah man, you really need to listen 👂. Try that, it might surprise you what you hear. Jesus said, many listen but cannot hear! Interesting isn’t it?
@@jacobheinz8236 😆 WOW YOU PPL ARE TOOOO MUCH! 😆
@@alilbitliz , you are the face of Jesus in the world! The kindness, the compassion, it's overwhelming! 😆
It's just bad fashion!