The 5 Greatest Mysteries in Warhammer 40k Lore

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  • @majorkill
    @majorkill  ปีที่แล้ว +497

    Lets get Velma on the case, she's a great detective....
    lol
    What isn't a mystery is how high quality and well valued the restocked Majorkill Merch is : www.majorkill.shop/
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    • @ruinerblodsinn6648
      @ruinerblodsinn6648 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      My greatest mysteries:
      - what is going on with the Slaugh?
      - Terminus decree?
      - where is Timmy?

    • @adamm2091
      @adamm2091 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hey Majorkill, you've done a miniature painting contest - how about an art contest?

    • @albertrex6851
      @albertrex6851 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh F*ck No. Not Velma. She'll just berate all characters and belittle them

    • @albertrex6851
      @albertrex6851 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Velma can fit into the 40K universe I think. As a Tzeenchian demon

    • @jacktrevino1108
      @jacktrevino1108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WYM doe? That shows bussin frfr

  • @Ac-jf9gb
    @Ac-jf9gb ปีที่แล้ว +1825

    Best feat of each primarch

    • @sond.lollipop8919
      @sond.lollipop8919 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Ohhh great video idea

    • @darthdistix1895
      @darthdistix1895 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Great Idea

    • @captaincorundum9788
      @captaincorundum9788 ปีที่แล้ว +272

      Best feet of each primarch

    • @tengkualiff
      @tengkualiff ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Gman: Resisting the urge to establish the next Reich

    • @Ac-jf9gb
      @Ac-jf9gb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sond.lollipop8919 thanks

  • @planetbob6703
    @planetbob6703 ปีที่แล้ว +583

    What about the deep warp? Not even Tzeentch knows what’s down there! He kept throwing demons into it with only one coming back. The scary part is that he’s changed to the point that what’s down there must either be so traumatic it breaks even a greater demon's mind or whatever crawled out is only wearing his skin!

    • @poodlescone9700
      @poodlescone9700 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      Maybe that is where the Molech gate leads to. I find it hard to believe the gate would not be swarming with the chaos God Demons if it was out in the open.

    • @Red22Black
      @Red22Black ปีที่แล้ว +66

      You mean the well of eternity?

    • @PoorManatee6197
      @PoorManatee6197 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      I like your theory of Kairos being another thing that "possesed" him.

    • @Ancient_Awaits
      @Ancient_Awaits ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @PoorManatee 6197 not exactly a theory, it's a remark Tzeentch himself made in the same excerpt on Kairos. If I can find the excerpt I'll link it.

    • @4nought758
      @4nought758 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nice 👍 very spooky 🫥

  • @MWH12085
    @MWH12085 ปีที่แล้ว +712

    My theory is at least one of the lost two is in stasis under the Imperial Palace. Because at the end of the day, the Primarchs are weapons, extremely valuable weapons that cannot be duplicated.

    • @thecommentguy9380
      @thecommentguy9380 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      that a body worth of spicy genetic materials

    • @GecaaaHUN
      @GecaaaHUN ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Maybe I'm wrong but the Astronomican works now because Big E sits on the Golden Throne. Magnus saw once a vision about a primarch who was fully siphoned off and sits on the throne (but maybe it was a trick from Tzeench). What if it wasn't him but one of his brothers who died at the time when the Emperor leaved the Great Crusade and left Horus there to do shit?

    • @CatastrophicMarauder
      @CatastrophicMarauder ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Trazyn definitely has one of them

    • @youdontknowwhoiam4349
      @youdontknowwhoiam4349 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@CatastrophicMarauder He doesn’t, he said he came close to grabbing one once but he did eventually get clonegrim

    • @AAGEnzee
      @AAGEnzee ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Admittedly, some of my theory is based on how the Emperor is in TTS, but their logic sorta makes sense. That he keeps things secret because knowledge of them can cause them to become worse, since that's how the Chaos gods kinda work. i.e. if you let others know a certain demon exists, it becomes more powerful from belief in it.
      With that theory in mind, and the one that he took warp minor entities and put them into his Primarchs, I think the 2 lost primarchs had particularly dangerous warp entities put into them accidentally. Like, those two entities kinda tricked the Emperor or hid their true nature from him, and he found out later on when the Primarchs were discovered. Those entities had some inherent quality to them that would've made them extremely dangerous if their influence continued to spread, moreso than even the Chaos Gods, so the Emp had to erase them from existence and that's why he can't ever talk about them (and why the Traitor Primarchs don't either). The other Primarchs have enough willpower to remember their existence but not think about them much, similar to how they can resist Chaos more than the average human.

  • @iamablacksabbathsong9765
    @iamablacksabbathsong9765 ปีที่แล้ว +475

    The biggest mystery is what happened to Timmy

    • @jimzo1985
      @jimzo1985 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      he was entombed ...Dreadtimmy

    • @thomaskovacs5094
      @thomaskovacs5094 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Brother Timothy?

    • @emmettbuttry8676
      @emmettbuttry8676 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      He started a rival channel and is called Chapter master Valrak.

    • @alpharius212
      @alpharius212 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@emmettbuttry8676 🤣🤣🤣🤦

    • @alpharius212
      @alpharius212 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Timmys soul was devoured by warp predators, or assaulted by Word Bearers

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 ปีที่แล้ว +784

    We need the Mystery Inquisition - a group of eccentric and unorthodox people led by Inquisitor Velma to solve "mysteries" and purge the perpetrators behind it.
    Members:
    1. Ultramarine Fred
    2. Sister of Battle Daphne
    3. Guardsman Shaggy and his trusty combat dog Scooby-Doo

    • @Archivist001
      @Archivist001 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      Wouldn’t it make more sense for Shaggy to be a rogue trader, Fred a Commissar, Daphne a Sororitas, Velma an Inquisitor, and Scooby as a Jokaero? It would fit the OG Scooby vibe really well!

    • @Archivist001
      @Archivist001 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Also, make scrappy a servo-skull

    • @ianharrison5758
      @ianharrison5758 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      If that was made in the TTS style, it would actually be genuinely hilarious

    • @MrLaz0rz
      @MrLaz0rz ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Arbites shaggy with cybermastiff

    • @Dwarficus
      @Dwarficus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah, you mean this picture i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/702/594/497.jpg
      And yes, I completely agree, we need this Inquisition band.

  • @antigonos3012
    @antigonos3012 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    One of the biggest mysteries is what part of reality was removed when the Necrons killed Llandu’gor the Flayer

    • @indrickboreale7381
      @indrickboreale7381 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Strenght of the flesh was removed. We know the flesh is weak now

    • @TheCorrodedMan
      @TheCorrodedMan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@indrickboreale7381That’s … actually a pretty good theory

    • @onilord1830
      @onilord1830 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      we can never know as it no longer exists, it would be like removing the color red from everywhere and then a decade later trying to explain it to someone that has never seen it. not to mention i doubt any body not even the necrons, or the old ones, or even the c'tan know what was removed. just this knowing of something being off

    • @lightborn9071
      @lightborn9071 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@indrickboreale7381 Tyranids dare to differ.

  • @RobouteGuilliman-M41
    @RobouteGuilliman-M41 ปีที่แล้ว +329

    The T'au are easily corrupted. When one touched a Warp tainted engine component, he was immediately possessed by a daemon of Tzeentch, and became a serial killer.

    • @jarichmaegh6676
      @jarichmaegh6676 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      It seemed that that daemon is probably a greater daemon of tzeentch, not your average one, since he is known by another lord of change. Almost everyone would be corrupted by direct possession of a greater daemon, if a primarch even can fall to one.

    • @RobouteGuilliman-M41
      @RobouteGuilliman-M41 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@jarichmaegh6676 I have no data pertaining to how powerful it was, in comparison to others, and don't recall any mention of it being extraordinary.

    • @quibberlin425
      @quibberlin425 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      its not that they are hard to corrupt its that their souls are so dim it is hard for demons to find them to corrupt.

    • @superiorsoldier57
      @superiorsoldier57 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I guess I can believe that. My theory is the Tau might be weak to the Empyrian since they lack certain knowledge about it.

    • @RobouteGuilliman-M41
      @RobouteGuilliman-M41 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@superiorsoldier57 I don't think knowledge would necessarily make them 'spiritually stronger', but maybe they could devise anti psyker tech, including Gellar Fields.

  • @palehunter6711
    @palehunter6711 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    My theory for the missing primarchs is 1 of them was raised by the rangdung and he was the one killed by Leman Russ and the other waswas like a blank and being a primarch was such a strong blank that they threatened the emperor's power, so the emperor put him in stasis under the throne to be guarded by those black painted custodians (forgot their name). He could also be the back up of the grey knight's as releasing him would threaten the emperor but also every other warp and psychic related creature.
    The grey knight's secret thing could also be that angel dude that the emperor made before the primarchs trapping him. Because his freedom means the death of chaos and man kind, so a great last resort.

    • @K4inan
      @K4inan ปีที่แล้ว +11

      No way a primarch is a blank 💀💀

    • @brettwood1351
      @brettwood1351 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      We also know one the missing primarchs explored a Necron pylon, so that could also connect to it.

    • @SlaaneshM30
      @SlaaneshM30 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@K4inan
      Why not? Being a primarch technically does not exclude you from being a blank. It actually would make a lot of sense.
      We already have Magnus who is the most powerful primarch psyker, so it would make sense to also have a blank.

    • @argiedude3762
      @argiedude3762 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@SlaaneshM30 Magnus: tries to use psychic abilities
      Blank Primarch: *slaps him in the back of the head

    • @georgelee5786
      @georgelee5786 ปีที่แล้ว

      The black-painted custodians? You mean the Lucifer Blacks?

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    5:32 Lost Primarch: "Oh you're approaching me? So instead of running away, you come to me?"
    Leman Russ: "I can't execute you without getting closer!"
    Lost Primarch: *"OHOHOHOHO! THEN COME AS CLOSE AS YOU LIKE, BROTHER!!!"*

    • @commanderminh7402
      @commanderminh7402 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Lost Primarch is a Fucking Weeboo who like anime too much that anime girl come true!

    • @MWH12085
      @MWH12085 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I find it odd how Leman couldn't kill Magnus (who he absolutely hated at that point), Angron or Horus who turned traitor. But were supposed to believe he managed to off one of the Primarchs. I'm thinking I'd Big E wanted a Primarch dead, he'd have The Lion do it.

    • @Alf_Hairy-arse
      @Alf_Hairy-arse ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@MWH12085 firstly he did basically kill Magnus. Destroyed his body and shattered his soul. Whether he shattered it or Magnus' emergency psychic teleport did matters little as he caused him to have to do that.
      Regarding Angron, you need to read that again. Killing him was never even close to the goal, teaching him a lesson was. Russ beat him as intended. I think it might be Lorgar who points this out to Angron about how soundly Russ beat him.
      Horus is jacked up on chaos juice and well beyond a Primarch at that stage. I mean, he even mortally wounds the Emperor.
      The Lion isn't an executioner, he's an exterminator. He would be sent if an entire civilisation needed not only destroying but erasing from history.

    • @erih2934
      @erih2934 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MWH12085 Yeah, I think so as well. Let's face it - Russ is one of the biggest mouths and regular failures of the Imperium. I wouldn't be surprised if he fought the primarch, failed taking care of it and Jonson finishing the job properly. Also the main reason I think it was the Dark Angels and not Mr-Call-me-the-Executor is that we don't have any records of it and in the Primarch's novel for the Lion the Emperor says he uses the Dark Angels to get rid off things no one should know about - not exactly a forte of the barking bigmouth primarch.

    • @synergy8879
      @synergy8879 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@erih2934 russ is the reason why the emperor is on the golden throne, as if he didn’t throw magnus and his entire legion to tzeentch, he would have powered the golden throne and the big e would be out and about

  • @_NIKOS9_NIKOS
    @_NIKOS9_NIKOS ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Μy theory about the Ethereals is that they pretty much occurr naturally if all castes produce a hybrid that contains a perfect 1/4th of each one's DNA. This would explain why they only appeared at a time when all 4 caste were at close contract with one another and why the Ethereals forbid tau from different caste from reproducing with one another.

    • @garDre
      @garDre ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good one!

  • @Rakanarshi2
    @Rakanarshi2 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    I got one for the Ethereal of the Tau. The god of the greater good as imagined by humans was able to travel through time and make the Etherials. Reminds me of when Rowboat Girlyman Asked an Elidari about the nature of gods. It was along the lines of "some have never existed until they did, then they always were". And since Tau aren't all that phyker/warp capable It makes sense that their human "allies" who made that warp god, did it.

    • @tagnk6136
      @tagnk6136 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But it doesn't exactly make sense from what Majorkill said Ethereal were responsible for uniting Tau and bringing them into spacefaring civilization. Greater good as an existence appeared when part of human population joined Tau and got introduced to the concept.
      So it doesn't really make sense for them to be made by this manifestation of greater good. Unless it involved time travelling but that would become even more convoluted either creating a cycle where greater good exists because of greater good or that somehow Tau without Ethereals were able to prevail get humans to join them, creation of greater good by human vision of it and it getting chucked back in times by at least few thousands of years.

    • @Rakanarshi2
      @Rakanarshi2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@tagnk6136 nah, it involves time traveling Since gods can suddenly have always have existed. It would be like if there were only three chaos gods and a new one just popped into existence, everyone would have thought they were there the whole time. Still, that is only part of how gods work in 40k. So I used that for my BS theory lol.

    • @mcarlinod
      @mcarlinod ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It makes sense in theory but in practicality it doesn't because that would mean the 4 main chaos gods existed since the war in heaven. I mean it can still make sense somehow because maybe they existed but were not able to interact with the material realm or maybe they existed in their non corrupted forms since the warp was much more stable then. Maybe the god of the greater good came into existence thanks to the humans within the tau empire and was able to exhert his powers into the past because the greater good as concept is something that always existed for humans so there were enough people believing in it unconsciously that it had enough power to manifest through the ethereals

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    3:06 Big E used His Flaming Sword to keep poking the Chaos Gods repeatedly until they give him what He wanted.
    They took it personally.

  • @poodlescone9700
    @poodlescone9700 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    My head canon for the Pale Wasting is an extra dimensional invasion of beings that are from a dimension separate from the Warp. There was an instance of Space Marines subduing an extradimensional being trying to come through a rift and it is sealed in a containment vault for further study.

    • @Sorain1
      @Sorain1 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I've been thinking along those lines as well. How could the C'Tan 'drink the Necrontyrs souls' if a Soul is part of the Warp and the Warp is poision to them? Why is it Acts of Faith function even with the Cadian Pylons cranked up? (When Celestine, a warp entity, was reduced to mortality.) There are things in 40k's lore that don't line up with current explanations. If there is a 'third space' aside from the Materium and the Warp, these could all be manifestations of that.
      Souls having some component there the C'Tan interacted with to draw in energy that wasn't harmful to them. The Pale Wasting, heck even the Rangdan's extreme power could be tied into this as well. To fully go into horror territory, if Psykers are human souls drawing on the Warp, what if Pariah's are pulling on this other space? The Warp energy they absorb has to go somewhere, and if it's falling into this third dimension that would account for it.
      To use a metaphorical demonstration of what might be going on. Imagine there are 3 planes stacked on top of each other. At the bottom is the Warp, as things can fall into/be submerged into it. In the middle is the Materium, which can be touched by the Warp when the walls thin. Above is this third space, which normally never interacts with the Warp. But as the barrier that Material space represents between them thins and Warp space rises into this space, the third realm above is starting to come into contact with it. Things there are starting to notice something spilling foreign energy into their plane of existence.
      Consider the following: Each realm has had a 'master' species. The Materium had the C'Tan, the destruction of which breaks reality in a non-warp manner, as if they are pillars holding something up. The Warp has the Chaos Gods. The Old Ones mastery of the Warp made them the original 'top dog' of the Warp, then after their death the Eldar God's took up that job, now Chaos 4 hold it. What would the master species of this third realm be like? And how much are they getting tired of their nice barrier from the warp collapsing on them?
      GW will want 'new' factions, and the agents of this third lovecraftian nightmare space on the Material plane could fit the bill nicely.

    • @yanlopez674
      @yanlopez674 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sorain1 Damn, wrote a whole ass essay

  • @trimeerious4349
    @trimeerious4349 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Getting a video about how each of the preheresy primarchs would have reacted to the power and position of Guilliman's current situation would be pretty cool ngl

  • @karvenman
    @karvenman ปีที่แล้ว +38

    A video about how you would continue and end the ynnari books would be nice

  • @starrk07
    @starrk07 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I starting to think the lost Primarchs didn’t screw up. There’s a line in one of the Siege books about how help from the lost 2 are beyond our reach now or something like that. I wander if they were hidden away much like the Gray Knights were.

    • @emmettbuttry8676
      @emmettbuttry8676 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Maybe they landed in the Ghoul systems or or some of the other Halo systems and were change into something else. Now they're like lovecraftian monsters who could resurrect when the time is right. They've mentioned there some eldritch things in the vaults of terra so who knows it could be them.

    • @helmutstein1178
      @helmutstein1178 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I always thought that atleast one of them just fucked off out of the galaxy (or atleast tried to) once he realized how screwed up the galaxy was

    • @zetajones3006
      @zetajones3006 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The lost primarchs will NEVER be solved. That was a decision made an eternity ago.

    • @helmutstein1178
      @helmutstein1178 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@zetajones3006 on the one hand disappointing, on the other hand its just better imo. Like the "reveal" that the squats were the man of stone all along was really soured me to the idea of revealing huge 40k secrets

    • @starrk07
      @starrk07 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@zetajones3006 I believe the original idea behind them was to form your own legions and roll play them, but the Horus Heresy novels changed that angle.

  • @JPKgold
    @JPKgold ปีที่แล้ว +26

    6:20 Isnt Subject 11 which is held in the Vaults of Terra heavily implied to be Primarch 11 or whatevers left of him?

    • @karlfranz3819
      @karlfranz3819 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i mean, we have only one mention of it. but it's possible

  • @michaelsauls3674
    @michaelsauls3674 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The special warp portal was just the hyperbolic time chamber

    • @rickjohnson1719
      @rickjohnson1719 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hellow fellow chuckle sandwiche fan

  • @rmartinson19
    @rmartinson19 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Another mystery surrounding the Tau is how they were saved from extermination. In M35, after discovering the primitive Tau, and Imperial task force was dispatched to exterminate them and ready their homeworld for human colonization. Just as the task force approached, a big fuck-off warp storm appeared out of nowhere and swallowed up the fleet, sealing the Tau and a bunch of nearby systems off from the Imperium for thousands of years. The storm is still there, and only dissipated enough to allow some passage in and out of the "Damocles Gulf" once the Tau had reached a level of advancement that gave them a decent chance at survival. Someone or something likely engineered that warp storm, so who? I don't think the Eldar generally have the power for it anymore, and I've heard one theory that this means the Tau are the special projects of a surviving Old One, since they would be the only beings besides the Chaos Gods who are capable of conjuring a giant Warp Storm at a whim like that.

    • @Greatot
      @Greatot ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think that was just supposed to be a tidbit about how small the T'au are in comparison to the Imperium that they almost all got wiped out if it wasn't for an accidental lucky warp storm

    • @BraveSpy
      @BraveSpy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I think that’s just an allusion on when Mongolians tried to invade Japan and got killed in a sea storm (twice)

  • @krisowrey7260
    @krisowrey7260 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    My theory on the lost Primarchs: They were sent to the faaaaaar future as a final weapon against Chaos but it only works if their entire existence is wiped.

    • @aczeartk7032
      @aczeartk7032 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Coming in clutch another 10k years down the road

  • @asaenvolk
    @asaenvolk ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I always liked the idea that the Pale Wasting has to do with the Rangda ... who also probably corrupted one of the lost Primachs, and are essentially extra-dimensional (but not warp) Lovecraftian entities.

    • @citizenkhan4696
      @citizenkhan4696 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the Harrowing and the Rangda were synonymous to eachother.
      Arent both basically extra dimensional eldritch abominations invading the universe of 40k?

    • @asaenvolk
      @asaenvolk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@citizenkhan4696 The Echoing Vault wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Echoing_Vault ? then likely, though it was found far to the Galactic West(?)(basically trailward of the galaxy) of where the Rangda were from. This were eldritch horrors to be sure, and likely so were the Rangdan, by which I am separating eldritch horrors from chaos horrors here.
      But the other use of "The Harrowing" was a chaos warband as far as I knew.

  • @Mad.player
    @Mad.player ปีที่แล้ว +26

    9:45 Doesn't Trazyn remember how Necrontyr looked like? As in Infinite and Divine he recognises the form of the Deciever as a perfect specimen of Necrontyr from before biotrasference?

    • @majorkill
      @majorkill  ปีที่แล้ว +34

      No he does not, reread the passage and you’ll see that the deceiver was wearing a mask and when he took it off, it scared traynz with the deceivers face.

    • @giovannidelarosa4543
      @giovannidelarosa4543 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@majorkill So the Deceiver was so fuck ugly, that Trazyn, a soulless robot, omitted it from his memory?
      I haven’t read it, so I don’t know if this before he became a soulless robot, but still god damn.

  • @ProcyonDei
    @ProcyonDei ปีที่แล้ว +19

    One of the theories about the 2nd and 11th legions (from Fear to Thread) is that they had genetic flaws similar to Sanguinius but probably more severe in nature...

    • @garDre
      @garDre ปีที่แล้ว +9

      But then that would invalidate their marines being incorporated into other legions later on. Which is a theory in itself, of course.

    • @callumbreton8930
      @callumbreton8930 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@garDre their flaw was that they lose all strength while wearing a helmet, but without helmets they're stronger than primarchs

    • @MWH12085
      @MWH12085 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The problem with that theory is they were integrated into the Ultramarines. And Cawl later stated that there was nothing wrong with the geneseed of 2 or 11

    • @ProcyonDei
      @ProcyonDei ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MWH12085 Could be that the flaw only affected the Primarchs due to them being made with warp gods...

  • @LegoM12
    @LegoM12 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    But if Trazin saw the deceiver transformed into a necrontyr and recognized him as one in the infinite and the divine, wouldn’t he know if the Tau were necrontyr or something like that? If they are then that would make the Tau lore more interesting.

    • @scottberry1073
      @scottberry1073 ปีที่แล้ว

      Personally I wouldn’t trust what the Deceiver says or does at all. He could have just fabricated a fake Necrontyr body as part of his plan to trick Trazyn.

    • @GreaterGrievobeast55
      @GreaterGrievobeast55 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Well the necrontyr don't need to look exactly like the tau to be their predecessors. There's been more than enough time for them to have evolved a different appearance whether naturally or through genetic engineering.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@GreaterGrievobeast55 Its also been 65 Million years and we don't know how far back the Tau were deposited on their planet, if they are indeed surviving Necrontyr. There could have been time for natural evolution to make some changes

    • @scottberry1073
      @scottberry1073 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@GreaterGrievobeast55 Thats actually a good point I didnt think about that one

    • @ankaynavravens
      @ankaynavravens ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shouldn't Trazyn have some hologrphic record, or art of the necrontyr If he collect al kind of things? But there robotic memories should be enought also to remember.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    7:34 Big E's true name is... *THE GREAT AND MIGHTY KEVIN!*

  • @arionofotherworld
    @arionofotherworld ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Given the nature of the warp and its peculiar effects with time and reality, it's possible that the entity that gave the Emperor his powerboost from his time in the warp was his future self, ensuring its own existence. Or it could have been the last of the Old Ones or something. The mysteries make the 40k universe interesting and give fans things to talk about :)

  • @xavierhugo9269
    @xavierhugo9269 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I can already tell this is ganna be a great vid from our smashable lore master

  • @grayrook8637
    @grayrook8637 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of my favorite mysteries is 40k is some lore I heard about how somewhere in the galaxy is a very odd planet connected to the Nids. In the area of space around it the Shadow in the Warp is so smothering even normal people feel it. On the planets surface is a heap of Biomass the size of a continent. The lore is scant but I wanna say the Nids even actively guard the region, which is SUPER uncharacteristic. What plan is being cooked up here? Is it the next step to the Hive Minds invasion? Pretty terrifying.

  • @fluffywolfo3663
    @fluffywolfo3663 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My best guess for what the Two Lost Primarchs did was "Something that made the Emperor look unnecessary." Which could include your "raised by xenos" guess. Cause that's the only thing I can think of the Emperor not being able to somehow spin to his advantage.

  • @gadrielvanorion9872
    @gadrielvanorion9872 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    personally i think the terminus decree and the 11th primarch could be the same thing
    1. the 11th legion was the biggest from what ive heared and has been absorbed by the ultra marines sugesting this legion was stable and that the 2nd legion must have been the defective one based on sanguinius comment on the matter of his own legion
    2. the 11th primarch could be subject 11 and in the dark cells
    3. whatever happened to or with this primarch if the above are true COULD mean this primarch discovered the lies of the emperor and was able to legit destroy the imperiuml however it gave him power too
    so i could imagine said primarch so have been able to tell the mechanicus how bullshit everything was, heck he might even have encountered necrons or the void dragon on mars while sniffing around where he shouldnt
    4. having the 11th legion join the ultra marines could have been a deal with the emperor and their primarch, which would make sense
    5. with the terminus decree being able to save a doomed imperium or doom a still standing imperium makes sense if you have the 11th primarch being able to use necron tech and throw around hard truth. a doomed imperium will HAVE to embrace the truth and if its still standing the truth will destroy the imperium
    6. if this happened during the rangdan where the emperor potentially released the void dragon to save the imperium and the 11th primarch was there, it could tie into this
    so i rly do think the 11th primarch has some xenos / necron link, has either a deal with the emperor or is so powerful now that he could replace the emperor as the most powerful primarch in terms of whatever power he has
    cuz i rly think we should have a pure science / dark age primarch who could ruin the imperium

  • @maxmagnus3793
    @maxmagnus3793 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the videos Major! I just ordered myself a Ra from the majorminis site. My favorite mini you make. Looking forward to painting him!

  • @Slavesforsale1
    @Slavesforsale1 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I actually had the same idea for one of the Lost Primarchs. I love the idea of one of them being found and raised by aliens so he became a protector xenos that opposed the Imperium.
    Also, 11:48 Why does that blue berry not have hooves? Tau don't have humie feet.

  • @sethleoric2598
    @sethleoric2598 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    My personal theory is that one of the Primarchs became an anime weeb furry, the other Primarchs and the Emperor were so disturbed by the look of his room and him dressing up in a maid outfit and cat ears and acting like a dog that they were given PTSD. The other Primarchs simply thought he could be fixed but the Emperor went straight to the belt.

    • @GreaterGrievobeast55
      @GreaterGrievobeast55 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well maybe the anime and weeb stuff could've thrown them off, but half the legions have furry vibes to them at this point!

    • @emmettbuttry8676
      @emmettbuttry8676 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GreaterGrievobeast55 Especially the Space Wolves.

    • @patrik9328
      @patrik9328 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bad theory

    • @SlaaneshM30
      @SlaaneshM30 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      OR it was a hot chick primarch with thighs so glorious that they would make even Slaanesh blush and they had to lock her up under the Imperial Palace, because if any mortal laid eyes on her, it would birth a new chaos god.

    • @vegalacerda6097
      @vegalacerda6097 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heresy! Where are Flashgitz when you need them?!

  • @adrianmiskiewicz6762
    @adrianmiskiewicz6762 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @majorkill I have similar Lost Primarchs theory to yours, because I headcanon that one of them inherited Emperor's "hobby" of genecrafting and was killed off when he (and his "sons") began to augment their own geneseed by splicing it with DNA of Aliens and became "drunk with power"

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I hope they keep Primarch 2 and 11 as mysteries,like not name dropping them or their legions as I like the mystery it gives and the homebrew aspect it allows.

    • @karlfranz3819
      @karlfranz3819 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      primarch 11 is probably the "subject XI" mentioned in the custodes codex

    • @ianharrison5758
      @ianharrison5758 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It’s not even a mystery anymore. It’s a plot hole. And I guarantee you the 10 people who actually homebrew legions can deal with that plot hole being patched up. Just make a successor for them, and go from there

    • @filozof90
      @filozof90 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@ianharrison5758o, homebrewing primarchs is better and their absence in lore is irrelevant.

    • @ianharrison5758
      @ianharrison5758 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@filozof90 says you

  • @dehydratedwatermelon4644
    @dehydratedwatermelon4644 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This could easily become a multi-part series. I would love to see more summaries of the macro and micro mysteries that enrich 40k

  • @m13579k
    @m13579k ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am a big fan of keeping the Primarch secret sauce a secret. In a lot of cases the mystery is more compelling than the answer.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:26 Sounds like Tzeentch's doing for the giggles since peering into the future is to look within the Warp.

  • @jarlathquinn2628
    @jarlathquinn2628 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Can you please do a video on each of the primarch’s adoptive parents

  • @-F4K3-
    @-F4K3- ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yo! Never really thought about it but I love the idea of the Tau being decendants of the Necrontyr with the subtle manipulations of the Eldar. Really opens a lore progression and possible dialogue between the three races that could be interesting

    • @rashakor
      @rashakor ปีที่แล้ว

      I totally does connect a bunch of dots in the kore.

  • @Weeklong_Seagull
    @Weeklong_Seagull ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much you make my morning so much better. You always post right as I'm getting into work

  • @hanihijazi9489
    @hanihijazi9489 ปีที่แล้ว

    Majorkill, never change, I was mildly interested in 40k now I watch a video of yours almost everyday, your attitude that does not give a **** and funny remarks makes the videos interesting and funny.

  • @nicholustaylor9443
    @nicholustaylor9443 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    started taking jujutsu after your video and love it. Hope you upload more similar content in the future

  • @devongrey4938
    @devongrey4938 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The ghoul stars are a great place to base a custom faction. I have one that is inter dimensional and is theorised to be the “military power” that backed the pale wasting. Currently working on the breakout they have which results in the almost annihilation of the spectres

  • @adamduane1320
    @adamduane1320 ปีที่แล้ว

    the noise you made after you started talking about the Ghoul Stars had me rolling because of how random it was.

  • @mikey2time484
    @mikey2time484 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how there's so much lore to 40k that idk if I'm rewatching the same video I've seen a few days ago

  • @jianwong6905
    @jianwong6905 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Day 1 of trying to locate Majorkill in Australia to verify that he is a chill WH40k loyalist.
    Glory be to the Golden banana boys!

    • @ratman7976
      @ratman7976 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Melbourne or Sydney is his home

  • @dominiksvestka611
    @dominiksvestka611 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like to think, that the 11th primarch Is very native american themed and out of all the primarchs resembles the Big E the most,
    Like Conrad he also grow without parent figure, but unlike him, he lived on a feral world, not catachan, but maybe jurasic park dinosaur style, probably some friendly xeno/humans settlers arived later, befriending him and teaching him some basics
    I also imagine him being a psyker, a kind of shaman king, probably bit stronger than malcador, which Is solid, but not Magnus And Big E levels
    Speaking of E, their meeting occured without any battle, just two dudes in jungle, And when his free spirit heard, about him joing the civilization-pushing war-mongering xeno-eliminating empire, he was like, "Thats the biggest piece of bullsh*t i ever heard." But still reluctantly joined because of some Big E promise/threat/deal or such
    And when rangdan happened he just saw it as an opportunity to dip out, knowing the imperium didnt have enought resources to pursuade him, found himself a feral world and pulled it out of real space like malcador did, and hes here since
    Name... he didnt need one so he didnt name himself, making it easier to erase it later from histori, because there wasnt anything to erase
    His legion, Spirit Walkers, trackers, survivalist, close-combat enthusiasist, with prevalence of weaker psykers and few strong shamans
    Its very native american inspired si i hope i didnt sound somewhat racist
    Expand upon it as you see fit

  • @dwinterx
    @dwinterx ปีที่แล้ว

    lol, love your sense of humor man, just found your channel recently, keep up the great work. 🤣

  • @johnnys8393
    @johnnys8393 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have never heard that theory of the tau ethereals being modified remnants of the necrontyr! I love it! And the more I think of it, the more plausible it seems!

  • @nicholson5490
    @nicholson5490 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Make an extended lore video about the pale wasting please ❤

  • @aaronslater470
    @aaronslater470 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My theory on the two lost Primarchs. One of them merged with an AI. The only thing worse than allying with warp demons. An AI merged primarch that also had access to Men of Iron and could obliterate the Imperium if they could find a way to mass produce them.

  • @andrewzix8442
    @andrewzix8442 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey majokill been watching for a while and you deserve more than just a video recommendation as a comment. Keep up the great work we love it

  • @Simi822
    @Simi822 ปีที่แล้ว

    that holder...I have 3x all of them from my time when I was down under...good stuff

  • @kelborn40k84
    @kelborn40k84 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great to see Gwalchavads, the Lost Primarch of a friend of mine, image being spread across the fandom. (The guy with the mask). ;)
    Asides, which factions could be possible in the future? With Votann being surprisingly and amazingly back, which would you like to see return?

  • @kennyleung9909
    @kennyleung9909 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Biggest mystery for me is still: How did the Tyranids came to be, how old are they and where did they come from?

  • @Reaper-J129
    @Reaper-J129 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the little cheers he does before necking the beer 🤣

  • @mikewaterfield3599
    @mikewaterfield3599 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One prob with the necron/tau theory. Necrons have human like skeletal feet, Tau have three toed hooves.

  • @OneReallyGrumpyJill
    @OneReallyGrumpyJill ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always felt like, when it came to two missing primarchs, 1 of them died as a result of some alien-bs (it doesn't feel like whatever happened in there was Chaos-related but, rather, related to those weird things in Ghoul Stars) while the other died starting civil war. You might say that Horus did that, but what if in this case, Chaos was not involved and the rebellion had actual ground to stand on: hell, what if 11th primarch somehow made progress on discovering what Emperor and Malcador are? Malcador sure seemed pissed at one of them.

    • @karlfranz3819
      @karlfranz3819 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      one of them may be under the palace on terra, as the custodes codex names a certain "Subject XI"

  • @Joni_Tarvainen
    @Joni_Tarvainen ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm super new to the W40K lore, so I might miss a lot, but could it be possible that the lost 20th Primarch has been Omegon all this time?
    If Big E and Omegon decided to fake his death, no one would question it. Emperor could easily wipe the memory of Omegon from other Primarchs and make Apharius think he's his brother.
    If Omegon is secretly loyalist within Alpha legion it would make total sense to say that he's the deceiving part of Emperor.

    • @theeast7005
      @theeast7005 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Y'know that kinda makes sense, that's the new headcanon for me now.

  • @stevenlawson1441
    @stevenlawson1441 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The terminus decree in my mind is the unlock cheat code code for unlocking the missing primarch Leman didn't kill and his legion.....

  • @quahodron2756
    @quahodron2756 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    In "Mephiston: Revenant Crusade" the Necron Overlord has the somewhat decayed remains of his brother on the throne next to him. His brother is still full-Necrontyr. So everyone in the room should pretty well know, how a Necrontyr looks. Also, deep in the tomb world of Morsus lay kinda stasis chambers with still living(!) Necrontyr. So I very very much doubt, that the Necrons don't know, how the Necrontyr looked like.

  • @seraphim_son
    @seraphim_son ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This man is honestly one of the most quality youtubers to ever exist, unafraid to admit his faults, never in controversy and dedicated to the craft even more than youtubers with channels 10 times the size of his.
    Keep up the extraordinary work. Much love.

  • @prasannajanakiraman5832
    @prasannajanakiraman5832 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glass Throne? Reminds me of Dark Glass from Scars - fits perfectly

  • @stripeybag6977
    @stripeybag6977 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A new mystery is how did Angron make it so he can't be truly banished anymore and will always return 9 weeks, 1 day and 8 hours later.
    Also when do we get a Majorkill Mini for the late Old Man of Armageddon?

  • @britishpalmtree9268
    @britishpalmtree9268 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The reason dorn lost his shit when he remembered the lost primarchs, is that they are female, and had female legions, and there was so much hatred from the fandom it broke everyone's psyche and they had to store them for a better time.
    But he has PTSD from the fandoms psychic attack at there being something other than male space marines

    • @SlaaneshM30
      @SlaaneshM30 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chick marines are bullsh*t idea and you know it. There are PLENTY of strong wahmen in Warhammer and as MK said, being a Space Marine is NOT a good thing.

    • @britishpalmtree9268
      @britishpalmtree9268 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SlaaneshM30 ouch, your reaction is showing me the level of headache dorn experienced!
      I love how you are protecting women in a fictional universe!

    • @SlaaneshM30
      @SlaaneshM30 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@britishpalmtree9268
      How am I protecting them? I literally just said I think there are enough strong females in WH and that I would't want female marines. That's all.

    • @britishpalmtree9268
      @britishpalmtree9268 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SlaaneshM30 "there are strong women and being a female space marine is not a good idea."
      This is an example of pigeon holing with the reasoning of protecting someone.
      "There are plenty of roles for women in the fire service, why would they want to be an actual firefighter though? It's dangerous!"
      This reasoning when challenged is usually followed with examples of why women are physically or similarly inferior to men.
      Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.

  • @Alexemenos
    @Alexemenos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    majorkill is probably the most consistent youtuber i follow i just came back from school and i see his face

  • @Vagolyk
    @Vagolyk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rmps taking a break to clear his pron backlog for inspiration and then giving the password to the grey knights are two of the top 5 biggest misteries.

  • @MrAbraxus666
    @MrAbraxus666 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of the Lost Legions was absorbed by the Ultramarines, the other 100% was the Legion of the Damned.

    • @michaeltrivette1728
      @michaeltrivette1728 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol
      not even 1% but ok

    • @MrAbraxus666
      @MrAbraxus666 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaeltrivette1728
      lol
      Yes, 100% one of the Lost Legions is The Legion of the Damned. Unless you've got proof they're not.

  • @franzcedriclat7629
    @franzcedriclat7629 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you have time, please make a video about 40k's embarrassing defeats.
    Example: A certain chaos lord/champion getting killed by a bolter fire from the Astra Militarum, or Tau security underestimating orks because they don't infiltrate.

  • @dolos4301
    @dolos4301 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alright, first time I've heard of the Terminus Decree, but what I think would be cool is the enemy find out about the terminus decree, finds it's locations because of the super ultra awesome piece of tech they have and find the box, open it and bam! It was a trap meant to destroy the threat in it's entirety. Could be a cool way to kill off a race if GW decided to.

  • @cameronpoupard9966
    @cameronpoupard9966 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to solve the mystery of Majorkill’s gag reflex , my man housed that beer: THROAT GOAT 🐐

  • @vulkeg
    @vulkeg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know what they say...
    It's 10AM somewhere. 🍻

  • @blackoutninja
    @blackoutninja ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Void Dragon and Tau-Necrontyr theories are gold… never considered these

  • @555tork
    @555tork ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At one point before the siege started Dorn stated that if the 2 missing Primarchs were still alive during the Heresy then the loyalists would have already lost. so who knows what they actually did.

  • @minigree8468
    @minigree8468 ปีที่แล้ว

    Artefacts/treasures of Vulkan update and speculation on what they could be would be pretty cool ngl.

  • @sumbody694
    @sumbody694 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You are easily the funniest, and most entertaining 40k content creator out there. Keep it up!!

  • @ProfSir1
    @ProfSir1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if the Emperor entered into the Black Library?

  • @imurmothersluv2968
    @imurmothersluv2968 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you majorchad, for posting so damn early in the morning (Canadian)

  • @kortusofkhorne9783
    @kortusofkhorne9783 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you make a video explaining if there are any chaos worshipers that dedicated themselves to the not evil attributes of the chaos gods like appealing to the honor of khonre or nature of nurgle

  • @kodak5678
    @kodak5678 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video major

  • @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd
    @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lore on Imperial Navy, High Lords, and Ecclesiarchy please

  • @snaplordmeep6748
    @snaplordmeep6748 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the video majorkill
    Also can you make a video on the diffrent harlequin masks?

  • @82seno
    @82seno ปีที่แล้ว

    5:28 the beer kicked in 😃

  • @bobspif
    @bobspif ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is suggested in book 54 of the horus heresy that one of the lost primarchs killed the other. Perhaps then, that leman was ordered to kill that primarch (kind of a cain and able type deal). It was in an internal dialogue of Mortie when it was acknowledged that there were two others that were taller than he was.

  • @Chuck-PK
    @Chuck-PK ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:08 now that's a "Stamperism" if iv'e ever heard one.

  • @Deverud
    @Deverud ปีที่แล้ว

    Emperor: Expunges all traces and memories of the the lost Primarchs
    Also the Emperor: Forgets that people can count to 20

  • @buffaloshrimp4520
    @buffaloshrimp4520 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like two think the 2 and 11 we’re basically jus like the big E and malcador and they didn’t do any terrible they actually decided they could do same thing but better and that’s y it’s so important that the imperium ctrl alt delete them

  • @TacticalReaper56
    @TacticalReaper56 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good choice. Definitely the holes that could lead to things are more interesting than the dead ends.

  • @Yo-Me
    @Yo-Me ปีที่แล้ว

    Your time drop has been a world changer. I always thought that you record your videos at 12:00 AM for some reason.

  • @RSBurgener
    @RSBurgener ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanna say that I respect your attitude towards sponsorship and your audience. I wish more TH-camrs would be like you and remember how overly commercializing content can be off-putting. You're doing it exactly right.

  • @SerrynRS
    @SerrynRS ปีที่แล้ว

    you smashing that beer made me smash that like button

  • @RebelOfTheNorm242
    @RebelOfTheNorm242 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought the terminus was the emperors name.
    It just makes sense being that saying his name would completely nuke Terra

  • @Luchiop
    @Luchiop 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Opens wooden box: "whats important is the friends we made along the way"... Carlos Hernandez, emperor of mankind.

  • @sbrazenor2
    @sbrazenor2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You get a little bit of a glimpse into the concept of what happens on Moloch when Horus goes in the same gate. He supposedly spent so much time within the warp in that short period of a few moments that he aged. He was said to have spent potentially millions of years in there.

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the Terminus Decree.

  • @benp1815
    @benp1815 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can we take a moment to appreciate the Emperor’s Eagle-Codpiece at 3:30 😂

    • @SlaaneshM30
      @SlaaneshM30 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a belt bro...

  • @joshuacarpenter1075
    @joshuacarpenter1075 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    there's also subject 11, a vault in the darkcells of the imperial fortress. a vault that some thinks holds one of the lost primarchs.

  • @sookendestroy1
    @sookendestroy1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was watching a video from someone else earlier today about the lost primarchs, he went through real deep lore on the legions. The two seemed to have had separate tragedies during the xenocide, one censored and the other entirely removed from record with the primarchs being able to remember they existed and were lost to tragedy but nothing much more. As well references to the rangdan having mind controlling bioweapons. I also thought after that how interesting it would be if say a primarch was raised on a tau world, kind of impossible giving the timing but the rangdan raising a primarch and a second dying fighting against that brother legion leading to the loss of both and the corruption on each legions gene seed (sanguinious gene seed got some turbo charged Corruption when he died so the same may have taken these two legions)