The Ugreen team confirms on Kickstarter “The official hardware warranty policy (you can find it in the FAQ section of this Kickstarter page) from Ugreen remains unchanged. It remains the same whether or not you install a 3rd party OS. But there are risks associated with installing third-party software. They are not intentionally blocking 3rd party OS.”
Did you test the power consumption (best in idle)? And did you tear down the motherboard to have a look at the CPU and its cooler? Would be very interested in that. :)
It's clear that this is version 1 of the firmware. For example, it should offer what SMB versions are allowed. SMB version 1 is obsolete, so the system should explicitly offers SMB2 and/or SMB3.
two questions 1*) are the M.2 slots gen 4 x 4? on the other models (except the DXP480T Plus) i am seeing gen 4 x 4. I hope they kept this on the lowest end also 2) is it only single channel memory and what speeds are standard on the DDR5 SODIMM modules?
Where does the OS/firmware of this NAS reside? On the HDD drive, to be shared with the data stored on it or its own dedicated drive chip soldered to the motherboard? I wish NAS makers would have a small M.2 2230 SSD slot dedicated for the system. This way, you can have multiple 2230 SSDs laying around, each with a compatible firmware platform where you would just plop in the SSD with the desired firmware such as OMV, uRAID, or TrueNAS. The HDDs are independent of the firmware where the same data can be access by these myriad firmwares. The more flexible a NAS is at running various platforms, the more physical boxes the makers can sell.
Why did he choose 500GB of the SSD for Read-Only cache when the SSD has a capacity of 916GB? Will he use the remaining disk space on the SSD for other purpose such as installing disk access intensive applications?
Forgot to mention this in the video, but the main reason was to limit RAM utilization as each GB of cache uses a portion of your memory allocation. The higher the cache the more memory you use. Just wanted to future proof it for now with the 8GB of memory installed at this point.
How do you prevent a NAS from sending files stored on it back to its maker? I mean you can say the same about any computer you use, but NASes are on 24/7 so it can take its sweet time sending little bit by bit of these data that can be mistaken by the firewall as traffic noise. I suppose if you are inclined to do so, you can have this NAS behind an advanced router and tell the router to block all network traffic from this NAS that goes onto the Internet, but how many home users can or even bother to do this? This is why routers scare the hell out of me, especially the cheap consumer models. Combined with these NASes, it's a perfect storm for data theft.
So I want to get rid of my iCloud and google drive cloud services. How will I be able to move everything over? Is there an integration or will I have to download ALL my photos first and then put it on the nas?
i'm on the same boat right now, paying both onedrive and icloud, but want to have something to manage both ecosystems, i've heard synology is the way to go for those who never experienced with nas, this ugreen nas is way too new to take the risk
Welcome to the world of NAS. You will have to get all your data and move it over to this machine. Then setup the software for your phone to sync to this.
Hang off till released, its currently reported you are blocked if you want to install any other OS on this device like TrueNAS, Unraid, Open Media Vault.
Not true. You just have to use a distro that supports the hardware watchdog, or you go into the UEFI and disable it, then you can run whatever you want.
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The Ugreen team confirms on Kickstarter “The official hardware warranty policy (you can find it in the FAQ section of this Kickstarter page) from Ugreen remains unchanged. It remains the same whether or not you install a 3rd party OS. But there are risks associated with installing third-party software. They are not intentionally blocking 3rd party OS.”
I'm happy to see a review of the 2 Bay when all of the other videos have been of the higher end 4 Bay models.
Great review, I just received DXP2800 and watching this!
Thanks for the review, i was doubting which one to choose, waiting for next videos of this ugreen nas
Thank you for this! Super helpful!!
Thanks! Great demo! Quick 2 questions:
- does it support mirroring by a disk partition (not HDD)?
- does it support HDD encryption?
Could you do a teardown and provide some pictures? Im wondering about motherboard layout and type of emc used.
hey have you measured how much is the idle power draw and full load power draw with 2 disks?
Did you test the power consumption (best in idle)? And did you tear down the motherboard to have a look at the CPU and its cooler? Would be very interested in that. :)
Would be interested in idle power consumption as well, would use one ssd for data and a mirror of 3.5 drives mostly spun down
It's clear that this is version 1 of the firmware. For example, it should offer what SMB versions are allowed. SMB version 1 is obsolete, so the system should explicitly offers SMB2 and/or SMB3.
two questions 1*) are the M.2 slots gen 4 x 4? on the other models (except the DXP480T Plus) i am seeing gen 4 x 4. I hope they kept this on the lowest end also 2) is it only single channel memory and what speeds are standard on the DDR5 SODIMM modules?
After reaching out to the UGreen team, I received an email confirming that the M.2 slots on this model are gen 3 x 2. Disappointing
Where does the OS/firmware of this NAS reside? On the HDD drive, to be shared with the data stored on it or its own dedicated drive chip soldered to the motherboard? I wish NAS makers would have a small M.2 2230 SSD slot dedicated for the system. This way, you can have multiple 2230 SSDs laying around, each with a compatible firmware platform where you would just plop in the SSD with the desired firmware such as OMV, uRAID, or TrueNAS. The HDDs are independent of the firmware where the same data can be access by these myriad firmwares. The more flexible a NAS is at running various platforms, the more physical boxes the makers can sell.
I have seen other videos where they teardown 4 bay models that have a dedicated M.2 slot for a drive with the OS.
Why did he choose 500GB of the SSD for Read-Only cache when the SSD has a capacity of 916GB? Will he use the remaining disk space on the SSD for other purpose such as installing disk access intensive applications?
Forgot to mention this in the video, but the main reason was to limit RAM utilization as each GB of cache uses a portion of your memory allocation. The higher the cache the more memory you use. Just wanted to future proof it for now with the 8GB of memory installed at this point.
What would be the ideal amount ssd cache for read and write if I was to buy two separate Ssd just for cache? I plan using it with two 12tb drives.
How do you prevent a NAS from sending files stored on it back to its maker? I mean you can say the same about any computer you use, but NASes are on 24/7 so it can take its sweet time sending little bit by bit of these data that can be mistaken by the firewall as traffic noise. I suppose if you are inclined to do so, you can have this NAS behind an advanced router and tell the router to block all network traffic from this NAS that goes onto the Internet, but how many home users can or even bother to do this? This is why routers scare the hell out of me, especially the cheap consumer models. Combined with these NASes, it's a perfect storm for data theft.
So I want to get rid of my iCloud and google drive cloud services. How will I be able to move everything over? Is there an integration or will I have to download ALL my photos first and then put it on the nas?
i'm on the same boat right now, paying both onedrive and icloud, but want to have something to manage both ecosystems, i've heard synology is the way to go for those who never experienced with nas, this ugreen nas is way too new to take the risk
Welcome to the world of NAS. You will have to get all your data and move it over to this machine. Then setup the software for your phone to sync to this.
Can you install another nvme to test the speed with read/wirte with cache?
I’ll try to make this happen
@@TechRoundUp also if you can try to connect to it via the type c port with pc
To see if there is a way to transfer faster tyen the 2.5gbe port
What about third party OS support on this model?
As of right now i don’t believe 3rd party OS is supported by the warranty.
i believe there is no OS 3rd party support
If this one has an NVMe drive you can remove the internal NVMe drive and then boot from a USB.
I don't believe third party OS support exists at this point
Hang off till released, its currently reported you are blocked if you want to install any other OS on this device like TrueNAS, Unraid, Open Media Vault.
Not true. You just have to use a distro that supports the hardware watchdog, or you go into the UEFI and disable it, then you can run whatever you want.